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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 08/17/2025 (Sun) 05:34:52 Id: ea49b6 No. 847667
Previous: >>842149 >News Agent Record | Orphie Magnusson & "Magus" https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40210604 Agent Record | Seed https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40193008 Version 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program https://youtu.be/lT68Fo91vWk >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/kBQnjxq8Fc8 (EN) https://youtu.be/J8msJFQ8NNc (JP) https://youtu.be/Fp7tFxXMoRM (EN) https://youtu.be/El0GKaGBNyc (JP) https://youtu.be/fFU7rj7IoLo (EN) https://youtu.be/c4mHDmvrn4M (JP) https://youtu.be/yV8loyeDX_M (EN) https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.1 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696 All-New Program 07/16 - 09/03 Tales of Midsummer Dreams 07/17 - 09/03 Legend of the Marvelous Fish Stall 07/22 - 08/11 "En-Nah" Chess Legend 07/28 - 09/03 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 08/01 - 08/06 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 08/06 - 09/03 Ghost Ship Adventure 08/06 - 08/25 JoJo's Space Mystery 08/13 - 08/25 Failume Summer Puzzle 08/20 - 09/03 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 08/27 - 09/01 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ21SUMMER ALICEYUZUHA >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
new thread new me, my ID will be going with me to McAlice's and I'm paying for everything
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QUEEN OF VALHALLA, GIVE ME A SEED ID
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>847672 Hanging out with Lycaon doesn't seem so bad
>>847672 >lose 50/50 to lycaon in alice's bunner >lose ID to lycaon again zzzdevs please add in a custom standard pool like they did in hsr
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ALICE'S BANNER IS TAKING TOO FUCKING LONG
>>847672 This but with my ID (wife) instead
I was on the fence about rolling for Alice after going all in on Yuzuha and her ball but holy FUCK that Mono Phys Anomaly team with Jane is cracked. At the end of the day I guess ojisans can't win against teenagers.....
I just drew this. Thoughts?
>>847689 OR I guess I could go with Enzo, fuck it
>>847669 Unless I laminate it in like, acrylic, I don't think I would get a result i would like. :/ I'll stick with these and look into custom frames I guess. Can't be that hard to do.
post CLANKERS
only 3 days left until GREAT NEWS
>>847695 Look at how flat she is. Damn that's hot.
I am going to sleep now. The thighs of my ID will be my pillow.
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Alice's fat ass suffocating this thread.
>>847708 you won
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>>847708 ima be sleepin good tonight
>>847710 More like suffocating my Polychrome stash
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>>847691 sex with teenager
>>847726 Why is Bibian blue
wife
>>847734 B for Blue If it were Vivian she'd be Violet.
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thiggers on crack
My ID loves me and wants to get married
>>847748 bro? thtat's your sister?
ID twerking on my dick
seed is gonna kill me
Alice ID = 10 pull
>>847759 Mewmews pawtected ass ID saved my pulls
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I am going to Zhao
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FACT -> Orphie Magnusson is good for exactly two things: her BIG personality and her temptatious, voluptuous, man-eating, soul-draining, titillating, and built for baby-making body.
>>847764 I gotta keep my hopes in check I don't want to be disappointed again
20 FUCKING DAYS LEFT Alice's slow ass banner is killing the game
My ID will cook me a dinner
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I'M GETTING SUCKED INTO MY ID'S ASSHOLE AIIEEEEEE
Y'know, Astra's body is pretty fucking insane
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None of y'all can roll IDs proper. Watch this. MARATHON SEX WITH MY ID
>>847793 INCEST GAWD
>>847793 Whew. Based and Canon.
>>847793 >Wisening up this thread
>>847793 You really wisened up these fools.
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>you need a block bypass to post ?????
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I hate palicus so fucking much.
>>847804 that's been a thing the whole time bro yours just ran out or something or however it works
>>847779 What would Lycaon cook for you? Can Lycaon even cook? At least it's not Rina.
Finally bothered to do the shop management. What the fuck does Bangboo Recycling mean? Are we actually scrapping 'boos for parts?
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>>847810 he'd probably make a bussing beef wellington that or he's secretly one of those super fit men that have lowkey eating disorder so all he makes is ground beef and rice
>>847813 Man, I've always wanted to try a beef wellington. I can't cook for shit so that's not an option
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>>847806 Same, I've skipped too much and I can feel it. Seed's feetly banner will save me surely.
>>847806 I just ignore the double stun autism means I take longer than 2:30 to clear that side, but whatever
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>>847817 You should give it a shot anon, read a couple recipes and watch a yt vid or two and you'll do just fine.
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My ID proposes to me at the start of 2.2 when I log in
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PREGNANCY update when?!
>>847826 you guys gotta stop ID rolling some of these are cursed
hugging and squeezing my ID's butt for hours
...at least it's soft...
>>847835 This is fine too.
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>>847826 >lebron id
>>847833 that's the fun part
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>>847838 kek Also gents, do we have a gook emotes folder? Or do we straight up not exist in arca?
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Holy shit bunner ID, I won!
Holding hands with my ID
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>>847851 hand it over
>>847850 We have tons of gook stickers. Haven't seen a folder of em though, I dunno how to use arca lol. I just scavenge them post by post.
>Vegita! >Whaaat? >Is Alice's banner over yet? >Nooo! >Is it over yet? >Nooo! Its going to be a long month...
>>847701 Zhaokin Zhaopa
>>847854 Never. I have suffered more than enough McDunn & Enzo IDs.
>>847853 Lewd >>847850 We have lots but I don't think there's a folder
>>847856 2.2 better have some fucking kino for this long of a wait
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>>847867 It's okay Foof, you're almost there.
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as someone who is very casual with building agents and dont really care about clearing fast im kinda surprised by this SD clear, idk if this is good or not
Sex with my ID please please please please!
>>847877 AIEEEEEEEEEEEE- ok I'm going to bed.
My bibi now has 31 subs.
>>847876 astra and yuzuha remove all need for worrying about agents builds too much with how much stats and buffs they shit out
The last stage of the new boo event is sovlful as expected. *inhales* KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My id is better than yours
>>847914 my daughterwife is so cute
Dumbass npc ids nvm
Whoa I didn't know there was toggle to go slowly (CTRL). Thought you could only do it on controller. Neat
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Seiba, my beloved
AE80 Toyota Corolla
thiggers never learn
I expected Yixuan to be funny but her arc is really dull so far. Not helping the buggy new corridor mode. Does this get any better? I'm almost at my limit.
>>847953 mizubear...lives...
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>>847978 for some reason the goofy side of her personality only shows up in side content. anyway the 2.0 story is pretty dull overall. 2.1 chapter is much better. haven't seen a lot of bugs in lemnian hollow
>>847987 >haven't seen a lot of bugs in lemnian hollow the cutscenes keep bugging out
>>847986 Yep, that's our meeb.
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Vivian is perfect
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>>847889 what website do you get this from
>>847999 That's from the mobile version of Hoyolab.
I must roll my id
My ID is my boss at new job
My ID canonically has the FATTEST ASS in New Eridu
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JOJO'S MASTER, WE NEED TO FIND HER
>>847855 >>847860 Unfortunate, but ty!
I need to not get hit on a stage above 50 to get one of these?? Man I struggle not dying kek
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>848026 You must indeed Grab her siggy if you want more mileage
>>848073 Not getting hit only give you bonus score, but you can still get the medal even if you get hit in the new battle tower. I think it's the score when you clear the floor, but I'm not too sure.
You know what we need? An agent with freckles. Freckles good. Also, sex with my id.
New SuperAppleBwo dropped
>>848079 I thought it was suspicious that I didn't get hit in 5 stages considering how much of a hard time I had. But I have other stages that don't have the medal but are completed as S, so I thought it has to be that
How many Bangboo are actually out there? Is there a huge population of bangboo in the hollows just fucking about?
>>848082 >Miyabi: 14.88 good roll
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>>848101 we're literally buying bangboos to slavewage at our temple like it's nothing. they probably outnumber people by 20 to 1.
Get on the ride, proxy
>>848101 Ten gorillion Bangboo
>>848109 >Belle on the center front based
Chinatsu drip soon...
when's drip coming, I'm dying of thirst here.
>>848121 we gotta make our own drip out here
How many people would (You) run over while driving the Victoria Housekeeping Aston Martin?
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another event drop >Aston Martin × Zenless Zone Zero Collab: Gamescom Event Announced! >"Dear Proxy, our destination this time is..." >Location: Messepl. 1, 50679 Cologne, Germany; Gamescom Hall 6 Booth C-031 >Date: August 20 – August 24 https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1957019576098562544
>>848123 driving with nicole and immediately crashing the car into a lamp post as a joke
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>>848123 None Thing would blow up the moment a bump is present
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new ID styling, I see
Why is halfchan just 24/7 shitposting. It’s not even that fun, and they don’t even believe half the words they type… i just want a fast board to funpost in
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>>848101 who knows, they probably "die" within a few years due to planned obsolescence and lack of replacement parts, except for the ones kept by people with the knowledge and resources to keep retroboos going >kami north storyline fucking finally continues >we get a THIS WILL NOT CONTINUE scene with a mountain of discarded bangboo >mfw
>>848101 Didn’t some side quests hint at a massive underground bangboo rebellion or something
Wonder if they're gonna go anywhere with the fairy arc. Back in 1.0 she was introduced as this super hungry super powerful AI. One among a handful we got a glimpse of in the beginning like youkai and ghost. Feels like it shouldve been one of the first storylines we had to go through Perhaps the concept died along with TV mode. Or at least put in the backburner for rewriting
>>848175 She gets mentioned at the end of the current event I doubt they’d hang up all the ai story entirely, one could be on the moon where we’re going
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Nothing about Lemnian Hollow makes sense >Supposed to be a Luminite Ore mining site >Look inside >It's actually a ruined Aerospace Facility >There's no mining going on anywhere in sight >Just workers standing around doing fuck all, surrounded by ruined aerospace equipment >Giant miasma plants literally fucking everywhere >Around every corner there's ethereals and exaltists >Zero security to protect any of the workers who are literally standing feet away from monsters and cultists wherever they are. >Did I mention there's no actual mining going on anywhere in sight, and it wouldn't even make sense since it's not some underground ore cave, it's a fucking aerospace facility so where the fuck would you even mine shit? Every singular thing about this place is nonsensical, it's actually impressive how much it does not make any fucking sense.
My ID will cook dinner for me
>>848182 Miasma bro Don't gotta explain shit
>>848182 Ethereal crystals and ore crystalize everywhere like Mako in FF7. The aerospace facility turning into a giant fungus land should tip you off to how things get corrupted. As for the mining sites, we often see things packed up but never mined directly, but I think that's because we've never actually been in a mining site. It would probably look like a regular hollow zone but with crystaline structures busting out of random buildings.
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>>848135 This is to take whaling further beyond!
>>848182 We do find the ores they 'mined' and they're basically just building rubble... Actually, now I think more about it all three of the items you collect in that hollow doesn't really make sense, building rubble, miasma gas tank, and refined metal(?) from the rubble.
>>848159 Pajeets and terminally online troons You cant have a single thread without them shitting on it
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16
>>848216 too old
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>>848217 For you
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>>848223 perfect breeding age
Hugo vlad is a pedophile??
Why the hell have they still not buffed Caesar? Characters like Astra who don't even need lost void gear got some while Caesar still sucks ass and doesn't bring anything to the table. Shitty ult, useless shield and weak damage and daze in general. Yes I am mad.
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(((We))) LOVE Chinatsu here
>>848226 This video causes psychological damage for anyone above the age of 21.
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Incredible artwork are being created
in 2026 /zzz/ Why the hell have they still not buffed Astra? Characters like Joyous who don't even need TV ultimate survival raid boss gear got some while Astra still sucks ass and doesn't bring anything to the table. Shitty ult, useless quick assists in the triple stun meta and weak buffs and damage in general. Yes I am mad.
>>848260 This will never happen cause chinks love Astra. Meanwhile I remember seeing that SoC are not really popular there at all.
>>848175 hoyo can drag their feet with the story, Durin was mentioned back in 1.2 and didn't go anywhere until 4.8. Voyager, the moons and Istaroth were all mentioned since launch and while Istaroth had a few reminders in late 2.4 they didn't become important until natlan.
>>848258 true, I couldn't bring myself to watch even for 5 seconds
>>848263 Do they really? I don't remember if patch 1.5 did particularly well in terms of sales numbers.
>>848259 >can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky >are like shooting stars
I came on my ID's tits last night
>>848277 Grandiose
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Fairy's been acting like a clingy girlfriend recently... playable agent Fairy when?
>>848284 After Yutane when she realizes she could have legs this whole time because Qingyi never told her.
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Nothing going on until Chinatsu drip...someone scan that Lucy doujins so I can have something new to goon.
>>848294 Doujins are lame just go to boorus Granted boorus are starting to fall off because everyone wants to lock the site behind an account wall
>>848175 At most we'll get a mention of one of the other AIs at the end of season 2 and they won't be a major plot point untill 6.0 or something
>>848264 Hope ZZZ team learned from Genshin & don't do that kind of dogshit pacing in this game.
>>848303 I don't think it's necessarily bad writing setting up events to happen in the way distant future as long as the story at the present is interesting enough
>>848299 gay and homosexual
>>848255 she got the smallest tits on the game
>>848303 Of the other Hoyo games, Genshin is not the one ZZZ is copying or learning from.
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>>848303 Lisa and Kaeya didn't have any pay off on their backstory until sumeru either and Amber is still waiting. I'm still shocked we got Anby's so early.
>>848299 gelboorus still fine for me bwo... just tick display all in settings. Still, a shame about atf.
>>848307 I'm not saying setting up future events is a bad thing, but they should mind how long those stuff will be sitting on the table. Leave it long enough and people will stop caring about it, and the one who still care will have inflated expectation since they waited all their life for the plot point to be explored further, this usually don't end up well.
How well would Alice fare with femdom?
>>848299 >booru I rather generate my own slop at that point. I need a good doujin that isn't out of character.
>>848325 That's fair but I also don't want them to blow their load super early on a lot of stuff. I think you can pace out these events and build up hype for them as they're about to appear while leaving tiny hints for the giga lore nerds who care about that stuff I see a lot of clamoring for S Billy this season and personally I don't really want it to happen unless they knock it out of the park, don't see how they'd fit his backstory into the exaltist narrative of this season without it feeling clunky ala 1.6 was
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>>848277 you've been playing with your agents too many times
>>848320 But when are we getting HIS payoff?
>>848182 coherent worldbuilding is not zzz's strong suit, to say the least, especially post-1.4, so I try not to pay much attention to stuff like that >>848303 genshin's success made them stretch their original 5 year plan into a 10-12 year one
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>>848182 They're mining from the moon which is how they'll come in contact with Zhao aka the alien that JoJo saw
I love you fairy dont feel sad
>>848367 Genshin was never a 5-year plan idk where you got that from.
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>>848339 >unsure of herself at first, constantly apologising and telling you she doesn't really mean it >gets really into it if you misbehave
>>848374 sexter sis
>>848389 thanks, I had to get out soon and that video and especially the sound killed my boner for the rest of the day
>>848324 Thanks didnt know about that, gonna have to use the site though which is a shame >>848341 >in character doujins They dont exist
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>>848175 I think there's a lot they need to rewrite and readjust after eliminating TV mode. It's not just a plot issue, but it's funny how eliminating TV mode also affected how they've been creating agents and gameplay. For example, in a roguelike mode where one of the most common debuffs is having your life drained or your iframes reduced, it makes sense to have a defensive class. Since that no longer exists, the defensive class is in limbo.
>>848397 yeah i'm a footfag but that shit is retarded kek
>>848386 from arky, afaik one of the more accurate leakers back before hoyo plugged the holes
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>>848420 So literal fan fiction lol
>>848386 travail trailer?
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>>848182 I still find it a bit disappointing how certain world-building details have been lost over time. But that's one of the problems with live-as-a-service games. To this day, I'm bothered by the story of Trigger's agent wearing the Obol uniform before she even joined Obol, not even making a skin for her.
I think I has to much materials...
>>848441 quite a lot of leaks back in the early 20s wound up being true but maybe that was before you were born or smth idk
>>848454 Are you one of the guys that got mad that the 1st anniversary didn't give a free Ayaka like the leakers told you?
>>848460 no bc who the fuck wanted ayaka lmao
>>848449 HoarderGOD
>catching up to the chess event >still gets matched in seconds >but everyone is a fucking sweat Fuaaaaark give me some tips please.
>>848182 ZZZ doesn't really seem to want to do much with overworld animation. Which, sure, I get because the game was clearly made with tvs in mind and pivoting away from that has had ripple effect damn near a year on. There's not much for it though, except to see if they'll add those little touches in later on. It's not like the game doesn't put a ton of soul into things that people won't usually notice (like idles while inside a hollow) but god, I'd love if they added the same amount of effort that in-hollow animations get that they get outside of hollows. Having agents stand around statically is just kind of bleh.
>>848470 Mibibi hyperdash launching her off ramps into the sky is probably the biggest offender/blatant show of that.
>>848468 it's likely atleast half your lobbies are bots bro, just match traits that you find in your first two shops and you'll likely outplace them if you don't get anything good in your first shop each turn just dump money into levelling up cause even if you're building a shit comp an extra bangboo is enough to beat most people
>>848476 I dunno about bots in the Asia server. I checked after matches and they're all real profiles.
>>848477 i am a burger so perhaps asia is still popping but I got 1st/2nd in all my games though I was a filthy TFTfag so it's a little more natural for me, you should still be able to get gold very easily though if you follow what I said
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>>848468 Try to get some good early boos and cruise for a while not refreshing till you get 30 coins for the bonus. Once you upgrade the shop to level 3 you should start refreshing trying to get the C and B-rank boos to 3 star since they're easiest to get at level 3. Bagboo early and late game is a monster
>>848182 I thought miasma plays out like the thing that transforms lifeforms into ELID zombies like in Girls Frontline.
>still no good alice mods wtf
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Need JFF ID
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>>848507 What could you possibly be looking for that isn't out already? They already have the usual minor tweak mods (the ones that change nothing except giving her panties). They already have the upscale mods that thicken her thighs, ass or tits. They already have the nude mods, complete with toggles for if you want to mix and match their clothing. There are full outfit replacements too. What else is there?
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>>848459 I am afraid you will need to surgically remove my mouth from her toes
Might kill myself in a few days. If I finally stop being a fucking coward I'll drop the login for my account beforehand. I have everyone but hugo and the only w-engines Im missing is Lighter, Burnice, Vivian, and Qingyi's
>>848557 if you kill yourself you can't jerk off to piper bro don't do it
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>>848557 never kill yourself
>>848561 FIRE AT WILL
>>848557 Killing yourself is cringe somebodys gotta clean up your dead body and shit don’t be a retarded defeated faggot, Rage against the world and carve a place for yourself, even the most retarded among us can do this with the human spirit.
Prone boning my ID
>>848585 Can you even do this with that fat tail?
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>>848585 But the tail is in the way...
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>>848589 bro... your apngs...
They'll announce SEED's micro bikini skin on gamescon
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>>848589 You mhm'd it...
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>>848592 >>848595 Stupid ffmpeg.
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>>848586 >>848587 Anything is possible if you try hard enough
>>848606 I FUCKING LOVE DOLPHIN SHORTS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
I will BUY my id A COFFEE
>>848620 Kaku is cuter
>>848557 What pushed you to finally pull the plug? I hope it's not because of w*men.
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>>848630 Love me Cangle.
>>848557 >Stop being coward kek kys is the most cowardly thing to do
Sorry but my ID will retire from being an agent so she can be the stay at home mother of my children
you guys gotta learn to space your ID rolls out, not every thread can be a sexy woman last thread I had sex with my ID, this thread I knew i'd get a male or NPC so i had lycaon cook me a dinner also please fucking remove half the NPC's extension anon
>>848649 >installed a uterus in the niggabot anon...
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S11 lives another day
>>848670 Seed will be her super wheelchair Its the reason why seed is on her scooter
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>>848628 We need a restaurant faction. I want my easy going chef capybara thiren wife that become aggressive in kitchen and hollow.
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>>848678 finally a proper harin team without fuck ass lighter, she's gonna make it
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>>848557 Killing yourself can be good but only for the right reasons. If you're killing yourself because you don't like life itself then that's fine. But if you're only killing yourself because something made you sad or you're in a situation that you don't like, but could MAYBE have at least a 5% chance of escaping, then you shouldn't kill yourself
>>848707 I take this back NEVER kill yourself
>>848670 >S11/Burnice Soul
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>>848670 Any mindscapes on the first side? I have M2 S11 and I won't even bother trying without an insane wheelchair
>>848667 the text that saved vivi...
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Is Alice's M1 or W1 more valuable?
>>848749 In my experience, M0W1 will always be more valuable than M1W0 for anything but supports.
>>848745 Remember when we joked about her being 14 years old? It's funny to think that 28-year-old Wise/Belle sent 13-year-old Bibian that kind of message with their shirt off.
Who’d be the better fuck - yanagi or miyabi
>>848738 m3w3 s11 m0w1 lighter m0w1 burnice
>>848760 Yanagi would be better out of the gate, Miyabi would dead fish until she underwent a porn binge training arc and then the next fuck she turns you into a raisin.
>>848760 I don't know man. Huge ass, tits, legs, mommy energy, comes packaged with ultra sex blue oni daughter vs canon negative ass
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>>848760 Yanagi because she's smart enough to know her biological clock is ticking fast. She will perform any act of degradation so long as you breed her afterwards
>>848768 This anon gets it. Meebs would be fucking terrible at it at first, but after enough "training" she'd become a prodigious semen extractor.
>>848620 sumata sumata
Speaking of Yanagi, are the people who pulled her on her rerun happy with her?
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>>848807 >pulling on rerun Fake naggers
>>848807 >rerun Why the distinction? I've been happy with her all this time since release. >can slot in any anomaly team >can hypercarry
>>848824 Not everyone was smart enough to pull her the first time. >>848835 Because I already know what you think of her.
>>848760 I know I'm going to be called gay because of this, but I don't think either of them? Like, Miyabi is retarded and doesn't even know what sex is, and I don't find her sexy either. Yanagi is pretty, but she's annoying and tries to be controlling, and she reminds me of bosses I've had.
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>>848861 where's the gorilla version
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>>848856 Yanagi's coworkers consist of >An autistic fox who likes to flake on anything that she can't conflate to training >A terminally ill layabout who is just as likely to try and weasel out of work for a week as actually need to take a week off work because he is literally dying and trying to hide it to boot >A literal child Yanagi is stuck in terminal cat-wrangling mode because they'd fall apart without her.
>>848871 >nigger >with nigger id Pottery
>>848872 Yanagi is around 35 to 40 years old.... That’s why she smells like chicken as he gets older.
>>848807 At first i was disappointed but then i built her a bit better and went to see how to play her and then i started liking her After pairing her with burnice i started really liking her
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>>848888 It's funny, Yanagi is framed as this older woman but she's probably closer to Phaethon's age than most of the cast.
>>848915 It's very easy to look older next to Phaeton if you don't use zoomer talk.
>>848872 It's one of the reasons I disliked the 1.3 story so much. I hate how a group supposedly from one of the most powerful organizations in the universe is made up of completely incompetent people who depend on a single person to function. I remember that this took away a lot of the hype I had for Sector 6 at the time.
>>848861 Zased
My ID likes the costco hot dog combo
>>848965 Man get these fucking npcs off of this already you’re ruining my stupid (1) posts
>>848952 Don't worry, Obol is gonna smash that next patch.
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>>848807 I'll be honest I initially planned to never pull Yanagi ever, but now that my retard phase is over I've decided that I don't actually dislike her at all really That said if they're running Orphie's banner first then I can't risk spending anything on the former. But if it's Seed first, I might be able to justify a coinflip
>>848977 Triple footjob
I am having sex with my ID...
>>848981 Bringer...
>>848981 You're a sick fuck, Grace. He's a child.
>>848981 Grace...
no...
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>>848969 >the only competent member of obol without any crippling personality disorders is Trigger after her recovery from ptsd Yeah I totally see them being very different from S6 alright
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>>848979 Seed is first
Did I really not post anything ITT before?
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>>848969 I don't even have high expectations anymore to avoid this kind of disappointment (even though Obol has some of the coolest things I think, like a mecha, a blind sniper, and a cybernetic thiren). >>848997 It's like the only one that seems better in the head is Trigger, but from the drip Orphie doesn't seem as innocent and weak a girl as she makes it seem, with her criticizing Magus.
>>848988 what did you do to vivis chest
>>848807 Nagi is strong.
I'm gonna say something heretical, I much prefer EN Nagi over JP Nagi.
>>849042 I don't even know what the EN cast sounds like.
>>849042 I thought this was obvious
>>849042 I don't think that's unpopular, I remember a bunch of people saying JPYanagi was trash after her va was recast(?) >>849000 in that case I will dump whatever polychromes'es I currently have on her this instant
>>849042 I have no idea how EN Yanagi sounds but JP is cute
>>848952 It's not like Section 6 are a bunch of putzes, to be fair. They're really, really fucking good at their actual job, which is being an anti-hollow specialist strike team. They just fumble on the 15~25% of their job which is the bane of all soul-bearing people: Paperwork.
haha Big Chungice
pulchra ID
>>849077 thank you horseman
>>849077 Who smeared this vaseline all ove my monitor...
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>>849073 kek alright who made these?
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>>849073 >>849091 nevermind I think I'm retarded
I've regressed and will now pull SEED in hope she will be a cute nerd
>>849077 More cosplay porn please
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I will pull Seed because: 1.-Cute face. 2.-Seed Sr. is fucking cool. 3.-Her patch & story are guaranteed to be kino, as all other OBOL content. 4.-Cute moles. 5.-I desperately need a powerful Electric DPS. 6.-Funny scooter. 7.-She's psychotic like Burnice. 8.-Nice ass. 9.-Cute feet.
>>849151 I will pull Seed because: 1.-I have an incurable foot fetish 2.-She has a bouncy jelly ass
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>>849151 For me it's her ass mainly. She can sit on my lap anytime.
>>849151 I'm getting Seed because I like the mecha, I think the scooter is fun, and the moveset looks cool. I know she's a lab experiment, but I think Seed Jr's colors could be better.
>>849151 seed looks like a femboy and the robot is a manlet but i'm still rolling for that ass
>>849184 blud you got some weird ass femboys where you live
>>849169 Is there more to this? A video? More pics?
>>849190 Dunno sorry friend
>>849190 Its sloppa
>>849169 The AI menace is getting too powerful
>>849200 Wha.... What the fuck??? I had like a deep feeling that something feels a bit too polished but I didn't think it'd be AI, how do you even do this?
>>849205 you prompt it
>>849205 I had a feeling Only really looked at some details to confirm it AI still looks uncanny but soon enough it will look real
>>849215 They have a twitter page with a sea of this stuff
>>849215 I guess the tail was a dead give away? It should have been plugged into her butthole, but looks like it's superglued on her tailbone >>849208 Should be a bit more to it no?
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>>849151 and she also has a thick accent apparently I went to check her EN voice and I completely hate it, jesus christ
>>849169 see me after class
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>>849223 >open video >literal pig noises
>>849224 >Should be a bit more to it no? you download a lora for fufu, get your preferred SD model and promp it, you can make tiny fixes with inpainting and what not but there really isn't that much to do and it's fast as fuck, hence why there's a fuckton of ai sloppa over the internet
>>849234 gorilla*
This mofo makes 330e off of patreon doing this? This is insane!
>>849242 There's a bunch of AIniggers on Patreon/Fanbox that make hundreds easily with bottom-of-the-barrel slop.
>>849246 That is CRAZY to me!
17 more days...
>>849242 AI is the new big money scheme It preys on boomers and oil barons who dont notice nor care if its AI
>>849248 I will stick to traditional cosplaying whores, this still looks uncanny to me
>>849151 her ass isn't crass; it is true, I cannot lie but I'm not too sure what's going on here, says I
>>849259 I want to take advantage of this!
>>849261 obligatory hoyo thigh strap
>>849261 Unleash the ass
>>849262 Too late Offices full of SEA/chinese workers already churn out so much slop that its gonna start poisoning the other AI models
>>849261 from whence and why hath my id doth change? what have I done to deserveth this...strange.
Has our lust gone too far bwos?....
Will Idols be at Gamescom? Also I raped my id everyday for the past 4 years
>>849277 Grace...
>>849277 I need the Zhao announcement.
>>849261 >suit full of cables and these obol thingies I wonder if they have a purpose like helping to control all the tech or if it is just for aesthetics
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>>848997 S11 is a model soldier, thoughbeit. If anything they're too good at their job. S11, Magus, and Seed Jr. have all shown they're eager to kill. TOO eager.
>>849184 >the robot is a manlet >Seed Sr is like 2.5 meters tall
Dorothy agent when
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>>848807 Newfag here, absolutely yes. I was at first turned off by her walls of text skill descriptions but the actual gameplay of weaving back and forth between stances to keep her buffs and shortened basic combo going is easy to grasp, fun and powerful, and her EX is just "hold Y to burst disorder damage". I'm currently using nothing but that one anon's electro hag team (Nagi, Trigger, Rina) and I've already maxed her level, sig and core skill. >Enemies of Section 6... shall pay.
>>849345 Holy mother of ASS
IMPORTANT POLL Seen few complaints about NPC icons ever since it become board thing honestly I never gave a second thought who am I adding, so I want to know your opinion Also important note: when people say >>848659 and alike I assume "to remove some of NPCs", not "change NPC to agents ratio so that getting an agent is more common", because thats a different thing and I have some ideas on how to make it better https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaREeMg3 IMPORTANT POLL
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s-rank corn
Is this the last event we're getting this patch? Any idea what kind of event it is?
Real Cangle Hours
Is Seed still using Exuvia for her talent mats? In case it has been changed mid-beta.
>>848997 I think that's one of the main themes of OBOL though, it's a squad made up of broken veteran soldiers with trauma, but who still have use. They're the "oddball" squad of NEDF >Trigger "Disabled" veteran who had PTSD and attachment issues after the fall of Old Eridu, left the military for a while and after she dealt with her trauma during her agent story, she returned she got assigned to OBOL >Orphie and Magus Magus is a veteran soldier who had her mind transferred into a fucking literal gun, and now Orphie is her nepo-baby assistant (mostly speculation based off of her old lore leak, might have changed but we won't know until 2.2) >Soldier 11 Lab-grown clone that was raised solely to be a soldier, as far as the NEDF were concerned she was the only surviving clone from the Silver Squad so they just shoved her into OBOL squad since her clone autism is too much for other squads to handle. >Seed Seed Sr was a part of OBOL before Seed Jr joined the NEDF. Seed Jr then joined OBOL after she grew up and was probably only allowed to since she's the only one who can pilot and maintain the now less-than-functional Seed Sr. She might also be another lab experiment gone wrong based off of what we already know (again this is mostly speculation, based off of the old lore leak and the new-ish Seed mindscape lore leaks, lore could have changed by 2.2's release)
>>849169 I could tell this is AI form the first glance
>>849345 Name?
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>>849375 It's just a puzzle event, the one where you move pieces together to unlock a picture like pic related.
>>849383 That's me
>>849386 LONDON O N D O N
>>849386 show tits or gtfo
>>849312 >memory lapses >literal autist >model soldier
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>>849383 Zhu Yuan
>>849385 >17 days left This might be the only time where the "____'s slow ass banner is killing the game" might actually be true
>>849345 >The face mask is crudely drawn on I get that it's meant to censor her face but it's still a weird choice.
>>849242 >AI >Illustrator Anyone can really be who they want to be with AI huh
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>>849365 Out of all of the 'literal who' NPCs in that list, McDunn should stay out of respect for that one anon who had to find jerk off material with McDunn in it.
>>849242 >paying for AI slops Humanity is doomed
>>849277 now seriously i rather cut my cock off than clap a dude and im proud of it
>>849409 Tin Master can be configured with female sexual organs
>>849412 transbots are still a no
>>849412 if u could somehow destroy tinmaster and reconstruct him into Chintasu (ofc with a female body) and code her personality and voice into him, then u would achieve the only "male" thing i would clap
>>849365 whoever voted to evict Elfy is getting their dick ripped off by yours truly
>>849365 I dunno how much work it would be but I wouldn't mind NPCs getting added for their patch then removed afterward like right now Dina is just as relevant as Vulture or that Winter chick
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>>849390 It's 2025, there's nothing wrong with working with a disability. Wasn't she due for a promotion? I feel like it was in one of her trusts but I can't find it on the wiki, something something about becoming a captain but she turned down the offer.
Hehehehe
>>849417 >2 people voted Bryan Based that Damian wasn't voted though
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>ju yeon's AJAZAT curry bread They say it was made into a curry bread inspired by ju yeon’s butt and poop
>>849428 enjoy those Naggers
>>849437 good job cutie
>>849439 I recognize that style...
we need a poll on which agent is the most fuckable
>>849382 agreed, butthole was too perfect I'm something of a butthole identifier
>>849448 If I pull out that battery will she die?
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>>849448 It's Jane
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>>849449 My nigga
>>849407 I just don't get why people pay for AIslop patreon. Even if you're too retarded to use AI, there are paid slop generators like NovelAI and you can create whatever slop you want with it.
>there are people voting off Girl A democracy was a mistake
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>>849448 Burnice Jane is a close second
corin, are u ok...? you look so sad today...
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>>849453 >Has half her ass hanging out and starts shaking it when approached by a rando with a camera recording >Allows people she presumably doesn't know to touch her ass Do women really
STOP THE COUNT
>>849479 I voted for every female but two and I'm not sharing who
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nicole is good
Astra Yao is the most beautiful woman in all of New Eridu and it frankly isn't even close
>>849500 wise...
>>849500 Eve pls
>>849500 ok eve
Some of you are lying I remember the grandma posting yesterday
>>849509 I was on the fence about her but I gave her my vote after an insane chatbot session the other day
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>>848182 The Lemnian Hollow hasn't made sense since 2.0. In Chapter 2 it was the Hollow outside of the Brant Construction site, but now it's next to Waifei Peninsula.
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>no votes for males except s*th and haru Who's out here fucking the zenless twinks?
LOOK AT NICOLE NICOLE IS GOOD
Burnicebwis we reigned superior most of the time lets push the pedal to the metal
>>849479 >>849448 It would legitimately be easier to poll which agents you wouldn't fuck.
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How would one fuck Magus?
>>849527 >meanwhile Nicole working on those updoots
>>849479 based catfuckers
>>849539 usb fleshlight
I cannot vote because the link got deleted. I will not disable the setting that makes deleted posts disappear
>Pulchra, nicole and rina all tied for 2nd thread is good
Why is Trigga so powerful?
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>Soukaku >4 Thread is BAD.
>>849556 This cute stalker HAG can't be beat.
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Pulchra Perfection.
>>849558 She's not on the poal but I would also fuck Zhao.
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did someone say cat fuck
This shit was so cringe. At least Bringer said the thing
>>849242 >AI "illustrator" lmao
Bypass check
Would
total twigga triumph
>>849591 The bypass check was probably triggered by /bag/ on /v/ since they were getting 100 posts a minute due to the stream earlier today.
>>849605 I couldn't post for a few days so I don't think it was specifically that, but the damn thing was broken and I couldn't get it to let me through so I just chilled and went to do some other stuff instead of posting
>>849605 >wildhunt isreal Holy shit. >it'll be 5 months before global gets them Bleh.
>>849614 I can't get excited about a single thing in that whole game since VolF so I dropped it
why does it have 350 votes yet we have 112 uids?
>>849621 because you can vote multiple times and it counts each vote as an individual vote
I initially voted for Trigger and then switched it to Shifu
None of these were from women btw
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>>849637 The Triggercord will remember this betrayal.
>>848235 I want to put my Penitsu in Chinatsu
>>849640 She's still in first place without it lol
damn
>see poal >S11 and Koleda near the bottom >Soukaku dead last You guys have no taste.
>>847691 wtf it's ahemaru and he speaks english
>>849676 He actually writes a lot in English on Fanbox (through some deep-tier shit, probably).
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>>848557 Don't do it faggot or else I'll curse you to wander this empty barren postmortem wasteland forever locked between sound frequencies until the end of time. I'll literally babysit you and force you to get better if needs be, just don't do it you fucking retard
>>849674 >check the poal >mfw
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>>849680 YOU CAN SEE HER LUSSY!
>>849680 Im 99% sure that's aislop
I demand an endless or at least extended version of Lost Void
>>849693 It absolutely is. Caesar's hand is wrong
Painful anal sex for my id
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AIEEEEEEE
>>849680 Man, if you're gonna post futa SoC, at least pick good art.
I don't even know what the fuck that's supposed to be.
who are the 4 fuckers who skip cute wife and bone debt whore???????
>he didn't watch where the miracle began This is why we get no lore
Why is this banner so fucking long with zero content in it? Currently watching parasyte anime, it's great.
>>849712 I checked all of those
>>849707 woe k0t be upon ye
Does anyone else get completely batshit emotional, unhinged, irritable when abstaining from masturbation?
>>849712 I choose one of each attribute
>>849712 >wife More like boring pickme bitch
>zhu id Also good
Made a tier list of whether or not I could beat each agent in a fight
>>849782 Finally a good tier list
>>849782 Ben don't look so tough. I bet I could take 'im.
>>849782 The only objectively correct tier list.
>>849480 other girls are allowed to touch each other wherever they want except in very rare circumstances, very odd
>>849782 I think you're overestimating your fighting prowess.
>>849479 I am glad fellow Pulchra plowers picked up the phone
>>849781 >Zhu Yuan >Well animated cartoon physics Oh no, I wish I didn't have context about these animations...
i just noticed i have koikatsu installed in my quake 3 folder what in the fuck lol
>>849544 Oh someone else posted it too, whoops. What are the odds that we both got recommended some 400 view vid >>849824 Ignorance was bliss
>look at poal >get mad my favorites aren't on top Trigger you better win this shit in the name of OBOL
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PINK SUPREMACY
>>849782 give me a laser pointer and Fufu and Nekomata are both dead
>>849830 Sounds like you are into freaky shit
The TV loss also made us lose so much cool music.
This one we actually heard during the attempt at nu-Exploration that happened in 1.6 I think. But never since.
>>849889 heard it many times in 1.0, its a certified TV classic
>>849876 >>849889 It's kinda sad that there's so much good music in-game that we only got to hear once or twice. I'm not saying that they should go full recycle-mode but the sound team could feel like they're working for nothing and it would be completely justified.
>>849782 I think I could win against Ellen, there's a chance she'll sleep and all I have to do is punch her throat
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>>849876 pretty sure i heard this in the weekly hollow runs, or a variation of it
>>849889 i think the biggest loss is that the songs had levels of intensity, with the integrated transition to normal fights and boss fights, from the exploration chillier version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIP1n1uvDVk transitions at 0:56 2:53
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sassy jk
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Phaethon haters will be squashed instantly
My god, it's so beautiful...
>>849927 UGGHHHHHH THICKER
>>849889 I don't think I've ever listened to this whole thing until now, those last 50 seconds definitely felt new to me
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if we lose the get I'm going to shit and cry.
>>849605 she looks kinda like corin.
>>850001 go on
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>>850001 Nice digits
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>>850001 >moe accidentally dieded right before getting a get
>>850009 Yuzuha's mouth and throat are made for fucking
>>850021 the definition of fucking someone out of spite
>>850001 Don't forget to wipe
>>850009 I wasn't even going for the get, I honestly thought I would've been a few digits away from it I sometimes forget that the other generals also have decent traffic /here/
NOOOOOOOOO FUCK I swear these last few weeks have given me the most cursed discs.
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What are the odds we could out of no where get a shadow drop like S Anby again without an leakers knowing?
>>850074 BiS for Rokudu tbh
.moe is down and .se is being a pain letting me post what is going on
>>850084 Cloudlfare has been shitting itself for a long while now
DO NOT OPEN.
>>850074 I've been farming Fanged and didn't roll Alice. Surely that means I've gotten good disks that I can use on Jane instead
>>850089 ok. I wont
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>>850078 High, but probably not for 2.3. We've already got Idols teasing and will get Zhao teasing in 2.2, every patch after that is fair game.
>>850100 >We've already got Idols teasing We do?
>>850078 Well the first iteration of 2.2's beta showcased how easy it is for the devs to run circles around the leakers. 95% of the stuff that gets leaked is stuff that Hoyo either wants leaked or they don't care about getting leaked.
>>850080 They've been teased for a while now. You helped Astra save Yutane in 1.3, a fan mentions them in Reverb Arena, and we saw Chinatsu this patch
>>850106 Slowpoke Bro?
>>850111 >>850118 Now that I think about it, why would Yutane be jealous of Chinatsu if she already knows Astra? Massive plot hole. Game is ruined
>>850094 I didn't knew I WANTED to see something like this
>>850124 She was raped when she got back and told the other 2
One day and another day
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>>850124 i am hoping they address this since it also makes no sense; the assumption would be that yutane never told the other 2 that she knew astra which makes no sense in of itself
>>850142 Maybe Astra only met her as Snap.
Before anyone builds up expectations that the Idols are going be 2.3's agents and will most likely end up having a melty if the 2.3 drip marketing doesn't reveal them. Just slow down and consider the following: We've gotten early future agent appearances before. It doesn't mean that the agent is guaranteed to be released in the next 1 or 2 patches. And since the devs are now trying to make the main story of every patch relevant to the overall plot of the game, it would make the Idol's patch in 2.3 less likely. Unless 2.2 is a mini-conclusion to the Miasma investigation plot and gets put on hold for a new "goal" in the story, then I don't see a realistic way to go from a military investigation on cultists and TOPs. It's more likely to lead to Krampus if they end up being a faction due to the connection to TOPs, especially if Zhao actually is a member of that faction. Just telling you guys to not get too hyped up this early, cause the Idols are hyped enough here already that it will most likely result in a lot of melties over the SMALLEST things possible.
>>850189 Zhao or Idols, regardless I'm winning.
>>850189 >then I don't see a realistic way to go from a military investigation on cultists and TOPs to a story about building up a career for a group of underground idols Forgot to finish that sentence, now i'm gonna go jerk off
>>850189 It's over a year now, they will come this patch cycle, so I don't care really.
>>850189 I feel like the disc set made that obvious
>>850189 I'm pretty sure every character, up to 2.4, was shown in the teaser, just like the first season.
>>850189 >trying to prevent melties Commendable but in vain.
I will lose my virginity to my ID
>>850189 Ju fufu showed up in lost void before she was officially announced too, wasn't she? Makes sense they'd still do the same
>>850226 anby IS the tutorial character afterall
All of the factions that shown in the trailer will be coming out first, the one that didn't will come out later after the season 2 main story is over just like stars of lyra & mockingbird.
the blowjob brothers are equal to grace when put together
>>850189 don't take my melty rights away from me bwo
>>849869 sex with orbb
>>850257 They could be like a filler thing in between, but it's like whatever. We know this will come in 2.X at least.
>>850189 2.3 is a skip patch unless it's Idols anyway since my wallet will be wrecked after Trigger + Orphie. Fuck I might even roll Seed with my birthday money just in case the v5 beta makes her an Aftershocker again.
cute tamagotchi
cute glasses girl agent when
>>850284 I totally didn't forget nagi she just doesn't count as cute
>>850134 The sexiest of Ellen's friends >>850287 fag. She's both cute and sexy
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>>850284 Something like sucrose from genshin or pela from hsr would be nice but still fitting into zzz's world
Newfag here, does this replace the one I chose at the start of the run?
>>850299 No you just get another one
>>850301 Thanks anon.
>>850299 No, if you pick other gear you will have multiple gears for that run.
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>>850284 Meebs is one summer skin and an Aston Martin away from even greaterness
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>>850287 correct, mature women are sexy not cute
>>850299 nope, and get used to stacking them / hitting level 4 with all of them for chrom rewards.
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>>850299 Embrace gear maxing
>>850284 Remember when everyone was calling her Ellen's sister?
I've managed to do all the Alice challenges today all at once
>>850324 This is the first time I've heard this
>>850328 This character might as well not exist to me, I'm done with her forever
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i fucking love pregnant sex but this fufu is too flat.
>>850189 >Before anyone builds up expectations that the Idols are going be 2.3's agents I always figured that it would be more likely that idols would hit for the CNY patch. I would prefer that they come later rather than sooner. More time to save and prefarm.
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>>850328 YOU GOTTA FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
id sex
>>850353 Go on.
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>>850353 >PAWnetrating this Jealous
>>850362 Sea otter...
>>850270 they said there would be no filler patches for 2.x which means that every chapter will advance the main story until it concludes, presumably. that means they're not showing up until the epilogue patches. fine by me since i need more time to save
>>850189 The idols being in 2.3 narrative is mostly from people (one guy) who are adamant Komano cannot possibly be upgraded to S rank I'm not saying he's guaranteed to be one, but there's a lot of people who assume he's guaranteed to NOT be, which is confusing
Chat is this real ?
>>850384 alice is going to alicecreep alice...
>>850384 I wish.
>>850384 I have a rule that I can only jerk off to girls that are in games I play, so if blue archive collabed with zzz I could finally jerk off to their sexy girls
>>850384 definitely.
>>850383 >Komano cannot possibly be upgraded to S rank Is he wrong though? Can't upgrade an S-rank to S-rank
>>850399 The 4th one is what Seed Jr. should have been
>>850414 trvke
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>>850414 and get accused of copying BA and shitposted across bilibili? zero chance
>>850294 that's a goggles girl
>Komano teaser >you actually play his little sister, he only appears as a summon >suddenly tons of "I was always a fan of Komano" appear in the thread
>>850414 We already have a wheelchair-bound agent though
nagi is fun, but I want alice's ball...
>>850420 >Komano is rokudo's big brother
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>>850426 new agent > ball whenever you have to make the choice you'll get way more fun and probably better performance over rolling yanagi to use WITH alice rather than just rolling for her ball
>>850420 >siblings in zenless zone zero you just know
>>850426 >>850434 I also have a really hard time not pulling Alice's ball but honestly, she is already performing really well with gemini in a Yuzu + Yanagi or Burnice team.
>>850434 I'll throw nagi a 50/50 then
>>850427 He already has Yuzu and Alice don't pin more girls for him to babysit. Bro just wants to work on his bike in peace.
>2.0 free engine >2.1 free skin >2.2 free bangboo (pic) >2.3 free agent (but who?)
>>850420 If he is an S-rank, then Komano might be the most hyped up Male limited agent in this general so far that's not the elusive S-Billy Which honestly doesn't mean much since Hugo and Lighter barely generated any interest besides being a free skip banner, and homomasa was just thrown at us for free. But besides Manato being a wolf-boy which is pretty unappealing for most of us, he still has a Sol Badguy design and cool animations, some of which are based off of Nero from DMC. He was also pretty cool and was in no way insufferable during the story and summer event. So if he's an S-rank and by some miracle he's not a giga For (Women) agent during his interactions, then he's infinitely superior to all the previous limited males. Just a cool bro that'll most likely be fun to play and interact with.
WON THE 50/50 AGAIN AWARD
>>850441 >but who? Komano the S-rank standard fire rupture.
>>850441 It's probably panda
nice
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>>850195 that's easy because zzz's writing is flimsy on a good day. for instance they could go with >isolde gets fucked up on refinement juice >turns out she's chinatsu's mom/auntie >chinatsu doesn't buy the official story >starts digging >gets in too deep >contacts astra in a panic >yet another fuarking rescue arc ensues >we meet the other idols along the way
>>850444 Yanagi/Burnice was my premium team for all of 1.3 - 1.6 and it was very fun, carried me through towers, take like 10 minutes to learn nagi's kit and you'll have a blast
>>850444 Congrats on pulling the best electric agent as well as one of the most fun agent to play, if not the best.
Will I be able to hit pity on Yanagi ball without spending?
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>>850444 congrats bwo, enjoy your electric hag
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>>850420 you tryna stir up trouble with that post, hombre?
>>850456 yes officer
>>850443 >the most hyped up Male limited agent in this general so far rest in peace gigachad deep voiced Seed
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>>850383 >The idols being in 2.3 narrative is mostly from people (one guy) who are adamant Komano cannot possibly be upgraded to S rank Huh? we can have all of them be S rank, it's just unlikely the idols will be coming until after the 2.3 patch.
>2.3 Livestream >New agent unveiled >Nekomata alter >S-billy, zhao, idols, all blown the fuck out >Yi makes an exclusive EP for her https://youtu.be/qyPhsFxnc_c?si=WSKLjdWgJiYzzcrJ
>>850479 Well that guy was CONVINCED komano was 100% an A-rank and that chinatsu was guaranteed 2.3 and the rest of the idols would come in 2.5 Which who knows that could definitely happen but acting like those aren't leaps of logic more ridiculous than simply "they're upgrading Komano" is retarded and made me a mini Pulchra-grudge anon
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I FUCKING LOVE FRECKLES, RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
holy Really need to turn off that effect.
>>850493 BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
niggas whipping themselves into Kekmano being Srank is going to be so disappointed
>>850487 to be fair, we all thought Comano was A rank because of his buttons that said A and had a rupture logo, it wasn't until we saw his animations and him getting removed from 2.0 and 2.1 that we thought he might skirt that fate. I guess we'll find out at gamescom?
>>850498 Yeah I don't really care either way cause he's still a bit of a nothing character for me but he looks cool so him as an A-rank would be fine. But the seething from niggas who whipped themselves into thinking he'd be Arank cause of their anti male autism would be funny
>>850500 >anti male autism
>>849896 The main offender for this is the music from Agent Stories. I guarantee this will be the second time (hell, might even be the first) anyone ITT has listened to this these songs, ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrkL2SYsQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEtXsuNvOYc Then there's all the tracks from demos they never use anywhere else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ2N4oszMTI
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>>850498 I think we'll get a sneak peek at him at Gamescom. Hoyo even commissioned a cosplayer to participate in the event, and he appeals much more to Western tastes than Eastern ones. I have a feeling we'll see Komano and Zhao in the Gamescom trailer.
>>850512 For me, it's burnice's awesome guitar story theme https://youtu.be/PXIo7_UhTiE?si=nOXxPCEPopn19gr4
Well, finally reach 500 wishes again after those disastrous Yuzu pulls. Now, IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING INTERESTING TO USE THEM ON.
>>850487 It's all because 2.2 had a partial Komano kit in the files so people speculated he was coming as an A rank alongside OBOL. Now that he got squeezed out of 2.2 and Zhao is basically confirmed for 2.3 with the Moon Knight disc set it kinda makes it hard to not believe it's a Zhao/Chinatsu patch with Damian A rank. I honestly wish he had an actual werewolf form if he is an S rank though, make him worth rolling if he was delayed.
Rolling Yanagi discs knowing I have to do vivian's after makes me want to END IT ALL
now I REALLY have to start saving for zhao, goodbye seed/orphie
>>850512 It's honestly baffling that they're putting in so much work into this music and it basically gets tossed into a garbage can. And on top of that, all the music we've had in 2.0 going forward wasn't really that great. If it's because of their burnout possibly related to the issue at hand, then once again, I can't even blame them, it's only natural to feel that way
>>850441 Selector for any one idol (all three on banner during the entire patch)
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>>850519 He already has a moveset inspired by Nero, maybe they'll do something similar to Nero's arm with his bandaged arm.
>>850526 I think 2.0's had some good music, the resort theme, the miasma priest theme, the exaltists ost, they've been pretty good Also the 2.2 bosses theme sounds great
>>850486 I though this was one of those AI shitposts, but it's a real movie
>>850500 >Yeah I don't really care either way cause he's still a bit of a nothing character for me He's got character but he's not gotten much time to shine outside of unvoiced side content. I'm hoping his agent story is cool enough to shed light on it and whatever the fuck is up with his arm. >but he looks cool so him as an A-rank would be fine Being two of my favorites are A ranks I don't wish that on anybody besides teh idols guys since one being a rank wouldn't be a huge deal breaker. Komano would be basically unusable as an A rank comparatively versus an a rank support on Nicole's level. >>850515 I hope they're both S ranks, I want more weird S ranks and more men S ranks to shake things up. I got a lot of good girl S ranks I maxxed already. Just need s Rank Billy and Pulch.
>>850524 vivian works very well on shitty disks how bad are yours?
>>850537 Watch party?
>>850524 Just share kits with your burnice :)
>>850539 They're not terrible it's just that I like having all my favorites with good discs yknow? Like I'm not going to farm Yuzuha's discs or anything but Yanagi and Vivian are a MUST so I can use them whenever wherever
>>850543 well not farming for yuzuha makes sense, the new disk in 2.2 is her best 4p by far, also farming for vivian means you get phaethon's melody which is yuzuha's 2p - you are being very efficient if anything
>>850547 And it's all intentional I assure you
>>850526 The majority of the music after 1.0 hasn't been hitting the same, but the new tower theme is 10/10
I miss the TV-mode. I miss the old hollow zero roguelike mode. I miss the genuine urban, fresh feeling that the game had. I miss when we were anonymous proxies trying to make it through to the end of the month, barely scraping by. I miss when we were meeting and getting to know all the factions for the first time. I miss doing normal commissions and having side commissions. I miss stage-like gameplay and hard-modes that never got a chance to become hard. I miss the old music. I miss the times when Zhudas wasn't a fucking snitch and a useless agent. I miss having immersive mode. I miss going to sleep in the bed in your room after a long adventurous day. I miss having a ton of different coffee flavors to choose from, even having special types of coffee for events like golden week. I miss the hangouts that felt like persona-style minigames, not walking your dog and going through a checklist. I miss the video store upgrading and getting new workers for it. I miss having a reason to visit the engine store. I miss the old navigation menu. The prophecy was the most kino thing ever added to the game. And I mean it. Good night.
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>>850526 >all the music we've had in 2.0 going forward wasn't really that great Alright now you're just smoking crack, we've gotten PLENTY of bangers in 2.X. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5uhCV2JnmA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXaa2HbLY7U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4GmbhzVaZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNIQ6dnFKM And of course, how could we fucking forget THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uu2O-_4aMU Those are just a few. Between 2.0 & 2.1 they've added over 70 new tracks to the game. They're all great.
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>>850556 The only controversial statement here is liking TV mode? And I guess the part about Zhu
TV was dogshit for the main story, 99% of side commissions aside from the prophecy were toddler baby puzzles and clickslop, us being anonymous proxies would’ve gotten boring and stale after zero plot development for months, the video store upgrading was stupid, who cares about coffee flavors, who cares about the engine store, the old navigation menu was objectively worse, and Zhu is the canonical wife. And I mean it.
>>850561 >Mevorakh BWOWWWWW WUB WUB WUB BWOOOWW WOOOWWW >Fufu Same fucking pipa/shamisen mixed with trap beats every other asshole does for any asian anything >Failume Heights Day Ok that one's pretty good >Suiban Temple This is just zoomer Liyue >Endless Tower: Glory YOU GOTTA FIGHT 2/5
>>850570 >not liking BWOWWWWWW WUB WUB WUB BWOWWWW W sovlless. that type of shit is ZZZcore https://youtu.be/jnv963oPM2c?si=g1SE1fuK1adFeAJq&t=231
>>850567 >The only controversial statement here is liking TV mode? Not really. Despite what TV haters DESPERATELY want people to believe, there is a very large portion of the playerbase that liked it and miss it. Their discontent wouldn't be voiced today if that wasn't the case.
>>850575 The track you linked isnt like the mevorakh theme at all. I hate the wub wubs when they sound like this bullshit https://youtu.be/7mGyvkgnYBY?si=0Aj3_mhpPiKO9A7X
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>>850570 >talking shit about wubwub That style is ZZZcore to the max. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtvIAY3d_FQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHHgP4cEies
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>>850538 I agree with you, one thing that's really missing is more non-standard S ranks. I know they won't sell much, but they help add variety to the game. And I'm also sad to this day that Pulchra is an A rank, but at least she had a great massage video, her trust events were excellent, and she still continues to get great fan art.
>>850578 It wasn't perfect but I prefer it over the corriderslop we have now. Devs needed to expand and optimize the mode rather than just immediately caving when there were complaints
>i miss tv Stopped reading there. I know the rest of your post is going to be worthless.
alice and yanagi's long ass banner isn't even half way over and we're revisiting the /zzz/ greatest hits such as "tv mode" and "corridorslop"
>>850578 >there is a very large portion of the playerbase that liked it and miss it. if this were actually true tv slop wouldn't have been thrown into the dumpster not even a tv hater just explaining the obvious truth, the devs didn't remove tv slop because 2 people hated it, fucking everyone hated it
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>2025 >tvniggas still coping If everyone liked it they would've kept it in
Only tvs could revive this dead thread
>>850588 more that the argument is almost a year old, so you know anyone bringing it up is just baiting
>>850591 >16 more fucking days Holy shit the Gamescom trailer can't come soon enough
>>850556 I'm sad that they completely abandoned the TV system instead of keeping it at least for the Side Missions. A lot of personality was lost and all the work of the roguelike mode was kind of thrown away. Obviously, the mode had its problems, like them wanting us to do Hollow Zero about 4 times a week, but at least it had several secrets and very unique characteristics with the agents and a lot of things could be fixed. But this is a AAA gacha game, so it has to appeal to a general audience, something this niche style would never achieve.
>>850591 The worst thing is that there is basically just the puzzle event and nothing interesting in those 16 days, I really hope that the 2.3 beta starts earlier compared to 2.2.
The funniest thing about TV haters is that they can't even explain why they dislike it beyond "It takes too long"
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>>850594 >"I'm not a TV hater" >calls it "tv slop" Uh huh. Anyway, a large enough portion of the playerbase disliked TV enough to spook the newbie devs enough to remove it (despite the fact they promised they wouldn't do that), no one is arguing that wasn't the case. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE hated it -- Not even close. Hell, even just in this niche little space you will ALWAYS find several people that defend TV to their dying breath whenever it's brought up. That alone should tell you there's plenty people who liked it.
>>850613 A faction where it's members interact with each other less than Yunkui Summit can barely be called a faction.
>>850616 I think it's a lot of expectation too, the marketing didn't show all the TV gameplay, which isn't something that appeals to a general audience, it focused on the cool part, which is the hack 'n' slash gameplay. It's kind of like the game is selling itself like Persona, but without the social life part (which I find funny because that's what Persona fans usually complain about SMT).
>>850616 >extremely clunky, getting stopped every 2 steps for fairy to explain a switch or show where it is >completely and utterly betrays a core tennet of gacha games: let me see and control the characters I pulled for during gameplay >oh wow cool ellen has a special sprint? sounds fun! ... oh wait... you only do combat in a tiny room and then get sent back to the tv screens >completely sidelines the combat in an action game >attempts to be a "dungeon crawler" but only the prophecy was actually a kitted out dungeon crawler with rpg mechanics >boring baby puzzles >filled to the brim with just as many "corridors" as the gameplay we have now, just in tv screen form
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>>850591 We are going to need some next-level omega gigadrip to have enough to talk about for the remaining 16 (SIXTEEN) fucking days.
>>850613 I think it's a shame that we barely see Hugo and Vivian interact and I wish Vivian wasn't a simp for our character, I'm a bit disappointed that despite being the thief faction in the game, there isn't a mission with us stealing something and actually running away from the police like Lupin the 3rd.
>>850626 >let me see and control the characters I pulled for NVCLE/\R TRVTH BVMB
FurGAWDs...
https://youtu.be/-yQlMbtTDJo this one's great, japs put so much effort in these
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>>850637 I really think Hoyo lost a bit of money by not making her an S rank.
>>850617 Unfortunately the most interesting implementations of TV mode were almost exclusively in the side mission content where they had an opportunity to use it as a tool for storytelling In the main story, it was always at odds with the actual cut scenes But more then that, what I think actually killed TV was the reality that in a gacha game where they want you to be consistently rolling for the new characters as the main revenue stream for the game, only a minor portion of your total time playing the game was actually spent playing as those characters There were instances of entire 15 minute missions where you got at best maybe 90 seconds of combat, and it's pretty hard to sell people on new characters through gameplay in those conditions
>>850642 She might as well have been, they gave her her own fucking PV out of nowhere which was her getting oiled up and fingered for three minutes with five seconds of backstory
>>850626 While using and controlling pulled characters is key in a gacha, I’d say this tenant primarily applies to the core combat gameplay loop and overworld exploration, which TV Mode was explicitly not. TV mode served as the connective tissue: the exploration, puzzle-solving, and narrative progression between combat encounters. All your other points could have been addressed through further expansion, optimization, and expectation that the players have a reasonable intelligence
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>>850626 >extremely clunky, getting stopped every 2 steps for fairy to explain a switch or show where it is Valid, although they were making improvements to this before they canned the mode. Also, this same shit also happens all the time in story sections today with forced cutscenes and easily interruptible dialogue during combat and exploration. >completely and utterly betrays a core tennet of gacha games: let me see and control the characters I pulled for during gameplay Valid I suppose? Personally, I'm not autistic enough to NEED to see my Agents on-screen every waking second. >oh wow cool ellen has a special sprint? sounds fun! ... oh wait... you only do combat in a tiny room and then get sent back to the tv screens Ah yes, unlike shit like Lost Void where it's also just a bunch of tiny single-cell rooms one after the other. At least Withering Garden had challenge stages where you had to run in a big stage to break targets/dodge shit. >completely sidelines the combat in an action game There can be more than a single gameplay mode in a game. No one complains when the turn-based combat is broken up by dungeon exploration in something like Shin Megami Tensei. I found the mix of dungeon crawler & cuhrayzee action game to be super unique and fun (again, as did many others.) >attempts to be a "dungeon crawler" but only the prophecy was actually a kitted out dungeon crawler with rpg mechanics Now this is just a straight up lie. Withering Garden alone gave plenty dungeon crawling action, and then there were other commissions like Bangboo Golden Town and Infinite Abyss that gave their own spins on it. >boring baby puzzles Do I even need to address this? Have you seen the "puzzles" we've gotten post-TV gameplay? Come on now. >filled to the brim with just as many "corridors" as the gameplay we have now, just in tv screen form True, however I am not someone that is vehemently opposed to linear "corridor" gameplay. TV wasn't perfect by any means, but it had many examples of doing this right.
>>850626 >oh wow cool ellen has a special sprint? sounds fun! ... oh wait... you only do combat in a tiny room and then get sent back to the tv screens Never let it go understated that people actually enjoyed fast movement in Lemnian Hollow when 2.0 was fresh
>>850642 S-rank pulchra reveal at gamescom
>>850613 they were done so dirty man, I'm not sure if it's cause they needed all their attention on 2.0, but Mockbird really needed an extra chapter that said, I still like Vivian and Hugo a lot as characters
>>850642 whatever their plans, I'm glad they at least saved her from the purgatory Bellum and Mors are in
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I liked Withered Domain way more when it was called Hollow Zero, and it's a shame that it got caught up in the TV culling. It's so stacked with lore and unique character interactions and I can't believe they sidelined it for Lost Void instead of adding on top of it. Also hate they pushed it into a weekly thing. I don't like being forced to do it, but when I'm in the mood it's perfect for dead weeks. I'd like both modes much more if the rewards were monthly. >>850569 Main story gameplay is always dogshit though, not sure why the argument always raps around to this. Combat sections that take longer to load into than to complete, poorly paced dialogue, and boring puzzles in every medium. The only chapters I've enjoyed for the gameplay are chapter 3 (surprisingly fallboos was as kino as the TVs there) and 2.2. The only fair comparison for TV vs Free Roam vs Fallboos is the side content.
>>850576 *snap* that one's going in my zzz folder
It's ok TV bros keep hope alive
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>>850658 >it's a shame that it got caught up in the TV culling
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>>850587 I have a feeling the idea to axe it came from on high. They probably saw that revenue wasn't great and wanted them to rework the game. Id rather they make it work then just axing it. It makes the game feel like "another gacha" rather than something that stands out on its own. I've thought about dropping it since I'm playing Uma Musume and don't want to play two gachas (though I'd still check in on it because ZZZ knocks everything else out of the park)
>>850658 Newfags will never know about all the cool fully-voiced events you got with Agents in WG. A shame.
People call footfags obnoxious but don’t dare tread on TV mode
>>850658 >2.2 I mean 2.1 I’m not a time traveler
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>>850626 >extremely clunky, getting stopped every 2 steps for fairy to explain a switch or show where it is Not a problem during the later stages. If anything, it added depth and atmosphere. >completely and utterly betrays a core tennet of gacha games: let me see and control the characters I pulled for during gameplay Which is a good thing. It also allowed you to hear your characters more, learn about their personalities and stories. >oh wow cool ellen has a special sprint? sounds fun! ... oh wait... you only do combat in a tiny room and then get sent back to the tv screens And she also had two special interactions in Hollow Zero (aside from the aforementioned extra content). You could've experienced her running in the old content. You can't experience those interactions in the new content. >completely sidelines the combat in an action game No. Action games need downtime. TVs were making downtime interesting. >attempts to be a "dungeon crawler" but only the prophecy was actually a kitted out dungeon crawler with rpg mechanics I'd argue only Prophecy and Arpeggio attempted to be an actual dungeon crawler. The "default" TV mode is HZ, and I think it was done pretty well. >boring baby puzzles They got better in the later TV stages, and now we simply don't have any puzzles at all. Ether tuning is alright, though. >filled to the brim with just as many "corridors" as the gameplay we have now, just in tv screen form Those were corridors with writing. As opposed to corridors with none.
>>850674 Anti-footfags are way more vocal and obnoxious than any footfag. And there is nothing wrong with having a civil discussion about TVs during an insanely dead patch.
>>850612 >A lot of personality was lost that's my problem. I think that it had to go, but the replacement is utterly bland, probably because the developers had to implement it in an extreme rush. hollows are supposed to be extremely dynamic and unpredictable, but now in the main story we're stuck fucking around in a static, dead industrial facility? lost void is the same deal. it isn't really all that conceptually different than withered domain, but the general lack of visual and musical style makes it more of a chore to me. hopefully the developers get back on an even keel and can start improving those aspects, I can't imagine that they're satisfied >>850652 >I'm not autistic enough to NEED to see my Agents on-screen every waking second it's the same argument as people who wanted the ult change because they "never got to see" their agent's ult. with gachas, people aren't paying for gameplay, they're paying for characters. and they want to use the product they paid for. and with many people's tendency to optimize fun out of gameplay, the game has to be designed so that they're almost forced to get the most "use" out of the product they paid for
>>850681 I think the new zones have way more potential than TV's did quite frankly, if they make them more characteristic of hollows and erratic. Imagine exploring a new area and you run into an agent in person doing something? There's no reason half the stuff people miss about TV's can't be implemented in some way in the new zones
I think they need to bite the bullet and just make dedicated tv side content parallel to whatever else they're doing. I don't think anyone was raving for tvs to be stripped from H0, which was the best place for them. To say nothing of side commissions, which generally made pretty good use of the puzzle aspect of tv's. Tv's may not have been the best for telling the main story (not sure I agree on that, but that seems to be the consensus) but it is by far the best method for puzzles and some of the quirkier aspects of hollow exploration.
>>850670 ZZZ's actual gameplay I think also just isn't that high of a potential money maker. 3D arena games I think are kind of a saturated market at this point and are niche due to requiring more reflex and actual skill.
>>850683 It does have potential, but if we were to look at how much potential this game has that isn't being used, we'd spend days listing things that could have been done. Just like the TV mode, it also had a lot of untapped potential. I still think this game's biggest crime was killing the niche audience it had built in to try to capture a general audience. I know the game needs to make money and all, but guys, look how the game has become less unique. >>850681 This thing about Ults, I at least think it was one of the best changes, mainly because Ults in the old system were basically just encouraged to be used with your DPS instead of the whole team having their niches and uses.
>>850688 This was Shiyu gameplay in 1.0
>>850673 Do you have Burnice's event saved?
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>>850683 >There's no reason half the stuff people miss about TV's can't be implemented in some way in the new zones You're right, but the issue is that they haven't implemented these things at all even after all this time. I don't dislike the exploration mode introduced in 2.0, but it doesn't hold a candle to the amount of style, atmosphere, and personality TVs had. >>850686 >I think they need to bite the bullet and just make dedicated tv side content parallel to whatever else they're doing| This. Just make it an optional mode for side commissions or make it an arcade game or SOMETHING as opposed to the zero (0) side content we get nowadays -- ANYTHING is better than just letting that massive pile of assets just fucking rot for no good reason. Remember the days when we got new fleshed-out side commissions almost every single patch? Unfortunately, I think they are simply too shell-shocked from the loud TV hate brigade days for them to ever touch it again.
>>850676 There's a lot I take issue with here but this one >Action games need downtime. utterly baffles me I'm not even sure how you came up with this argument. All of the greatest action games of all time (bayonetta, dmc, ninja gaiden, etc) have no downtime. They never feel the need to make their combat a minor footnote in a slower paced minigame because that would be a fucking retarded thing to do in a game that is advertised as an action game. >ugh im doing too much combat in god of war... I wish the game would force me to play uhhh... candy crush or some shit to unlock the next combat section -shit no one ever said
>>850696 Yeah, and it was PEAK
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>>850700 I do not, but you have now reminded me that I need record and save all the Agent events before they inevitably stealth-remove them from the game. Guess now's the best time for that, given how dead we are. I only wish I did the same for all the little recruitment dialogues in WG.
>>850702 >after all this time we've had one patch since the new exploration has been implemented. I'm going to reserve my judgements on the new stuff until much later down the line especially cause we know the devs are in a big time crunch
>>850696 It's even strange to see Shiyu Defense buffs in 1.0, like we had literal debuffs lol
>>850705 God hers was so good. Something about burning rats. I had it saved its just misfiled
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>>850704 Are you even trying?
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>>850692 Problem is no matter how dedicated, passionate or visionary the ZZZ devs are, MHY is still a company that exists to make money. ZZZ was clearly a very experimental project and more likely than not after the 1.0 feedback, there was a ton of pressure from the top to generalize the game as much as possible to make the most amount of money possible. If some suit says that the game NEEDS to succeed or else support might get throttled or even cut, then the devs are going to have to take a hatchet to their baby. I wholeheartedly believe this is what happened with tv's. It's sad but it is what it is.
>>850703 >All of the greatest action games of all time (bayonetta, dmc, ninja gaiden, etc) have no downtime. That's factually wrong, and all the examples you've given have ample downtime. >Bayo Travel sections, platforming, gimmick sections, puzzles >DMC Puzzles and travel sections. Mild platforming. Same as Bayo in DMC1 specifically because Kamiya. >Ninja Gaiden Travel sections and platforming. >God of war Travel sections, puzzles and platforming. You simply don't understand game design in general and what "downtime" means in an action game. A game with truly no downtime is something like Crimsonland, Nova Drift, Vampire Survivors, etc. Almost all action games have at least some downtime in the form of travel time between the encounters. And that still stands true for ZZZ right now. It's just instead of running from point A to point B you could've been doing something else.
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>>850703 Bro, what do you think all the exploration, puzzle, and platforming sections are in those games you listed? That IS the downtime. Without those things, those games would feel like a total slog -- why do you think traditional beatemups are totally dead nowadays? Shit gets repetitive as hell, you need to mix it up with something.
>>850703 BRO, you don't remember how much you had to navigate the damn scenarios in DMC 1 and 3, do those super weird puzzles, or even get lost walking around the damn castle/tower. Or in Bayonetta, which had sections like the motorcycle mission, doing the dodge challenges to activate buttons, or in Ninja Gaiden Black, having to do the entire backtrack with the occasional canon fodder enemy.
tbh I missed the time when side commission are just sitting out there waiting to be discovered by you when you actually interact with the game world instead of picking it from one menu full of chores. While convenient, it makes nothing feel mattered at the slightest.
>>850716 >>850717 if that is what you mean by "downtime", then we have that. You solve puzzles in the lemnian hollow, only you do as the actual character in the level, just as bayonetta and dmc does it, with the occasional bangboo mario level You can argue about whether or not you like the puzzles but it's objectively closer to a traditional action game
TV mode would've been received much better if it wasn't fucking pngs in TV's and it was more of a top-down action segment in the environments btw Something TVfags don't really consider is while the aesthetic of the HDD is neat and stylish it fatigued people very very quickly.
>>850670 >I have a feeling the idea to axe it came from on high that was the implication from the speech da wei gave to his alma mater some time ago. even in cbt they were talking about eventually moving to a more immersive exploration mode, but after 1.0's poor reception I think he did a post-launch review with the team and ordered them to dumpster it asap >>850683 yep, and I'm sure the devs have a massive amount of ideas to improve the exploration gameplay. I hope they get the time and resources to do them >>850692 they didn't do a good job of making people aware of what non-dps ults did or make them powerful enough, so people optimized them out of gameplay even though they didn't really need to. I like the original idea of ults being used as an explosive move to turn the tide of battle, not as a constant spam of microcutscenes, but they fucked it up. I'd love it if they gave an option to turn the cutscenes off but that would fuck with the timed endgame shit
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>>850727 >png I fucking hate discord
>>850722 Game feels like more like a menu based gacha as time has gone on.
>>850703 Of all games you could bring up, BAYONETTA has no action downtime???
>>850727 >>850704 >>850729 ??? why did my Id switch for two posts
Honestly, I was hoping 2.0 would revitalize my flagging interest after they removed tvs, the steady decline of commissions, the gutting of H0 and the downright shitshow that was Arpeggio Fault and to be fair, it has largely been a success. I'm enjoying the game immensely with what it provides. I just know it can be better. I look back at paradise and can only think of what we lost...what we can still have... Please...Dawei...Just greenlight dedicated tv side content...And bring back open world commissions, holy FUCK there is no reason these should have fallen off.
>TV discourse for the nth time
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>>850733 Sorry had to boot you off your IP for a sec to steal your poly
>>850738 while we're at it: we need more male characters
>>850723 >if that is what you mean by "downtime", then we have that. You solve puzzles in the lemnian hollow Yes, we do, just as I have said. But TV was a more creative and interesting way of doing that. ZZZ came a long way in terms on action-mode gameplay variety but it's still fundamentally unsuited for anything but combat, resulting in literally anything interesting (Ether tuning and Eousploration) bringing up a new mode anyway, and everything non-modal (pressing buttons and reading prompts) being incredibly basic. TVs had the benefit of being a written medium. You could've just read >and then your agent does a very cool thing! and you'd get to experience the story of the agent doing a cool thing. In the action-mode, though, you have to actually see the agent do the thing. Which is budget and dev time. Which is why we only started getting something borderline passable as actual gameplay in 2.0+ and we have literally zero side commissions. Yes the vent crawling sections were very cool. Yes, I think the devs did a very good job with 2.1 story. And yes, they could've written an order of magnitude more stories that would've been just as impressive if not more while staying well below the current budget and without forcing us to suffer throught the travesty which was 1.1+ actual in-mission storytelling.
>>850722 That was fine when it was just a few maps but now that we're getting more it's gonna be a royal pain to find them. There was also a quirk where some questgivers are only available at certain times but I'm pretty sure they stopped doing that along with implementing permanent immersion mode
>>850740 NOOOOOOO MY FUARKING ZHAO SAVINGS
so what's the deal with lolis
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Also we have 0 side commissions now because we have a zillion events instead. Like this patch we got like fucking gallery shooting, surfing, bangboo chess and side scrolling in 1.0 they would just be TV mini games like Golden Week holy fuck you guys are fucking brain-dead.
>>850715 >>850670 The decision definitely came from the top. It's a miracle that this game managed to come out the way it did and still be around, even if it's still reducing the more non-standard designs. At least it still has a diverse cast of characters, even for a gacha standard. While I'm sure some of them were still fought for by the devs, I feel this especially with Pulchra, as she feels much more like something a dev personally wanted and fought for.
>>850753 >turn all the fun world building side quests that encourage the player to explore each area and each had its own story and collectable lore items into minigame events that lose their charm after the first time you play it
>>850753 A good number of those will be gone forever when the event runs out. That's also only a handful of stories. Meanwhile 1.0 had dozens upon dozens. The events allow you to experience a thing. Side commissions allow you to experience the world.
>>850742 This, Belle needs more COCKA GIVE BELLE A SHOTA, NYOW
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>>850754 Someone was definitely fistfighting a suit in the stairwells to get Pulchra the amount of love she ended up with. Whole ass animated drip and trailer? As an A rank? You can't convince me that Pulchra wasn't an S at some point and got kicked down because someone didn't think she'd sell. That guy is a fucking idiot. I would have M6'd.
It's ok bwos. It took them a year, but they finally showed that we don't need tvs anymore never needed it anyway. 2.1 was a step in the right direction, and it'll only get better as time goes on God I hate tvfags
>>850755 >>850756 Ok i genuinely do not understand this distinction at all. The events have a lot of world building.
>>850753 To be fair 3 out of 4 of those events are refurbished.
>>850744 they should just dump the night/day cycle now that it has no real meaning. though I guess we're still getting some timed npc interactions also they should just make trust events happen entirely over phone conversations because fuck digging through every single map trying to find agents now that there's no easy indicator of what general area they're in
>>850755 Also nigga are you saying the side commissions had replay value????
>>850761 ??? Only the sides carolling one.
>>850760 There's an inseparable association between tv mode and 1.0 levels of content, it's always the secret lurker behind these arguments
>>850760 It makes the world feel real and makes me feel like an actual proxy helping randos out with their commissions while the events are more centered around the agents of the patch who already get their own time in the spotlight with the story >>850763 Did you forget all the extra achievements for them?
>>850767 We have people literally complaining that we have too much content still??
>>850755 tvslurpers are so dishonest sometimes it's actually incredible
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>>850752 idk they're sexo ig
>>850765 >Gallery shooting 1.6, Trigger's target shooting minigame >Surfing It controls almost identically to the racing in 1.2 (Tour de Inferno) which got turned into the arcade game Mach 25 and then turned into Surfing. Damn I should've took a screenshot, they have poke fun at themselves when you set up the surfing event, NPC says something like >if only our surfing could be as fun as racing in the Outer Ring Also the fishing from 1.4 getting re-used. I'm not complaining since they improved all of them, but it's only natural stacking events with shit is easier when they've got the framework for the minigames.
>>850762 >timed npc interactions God knows how many times I spammed the time skip to find yuzuha's overworld encounters. I'm actually having an easier time finding alice's
>>850760 >The events have a lot of world building. HZ side commissions told you about fates of like eight groups of people. All of those were their separate unrelated stories bringing. You got to follow them through, learn more about the world through the lens, to maybe meet some of them at the end or at least find the final remnants of the others. None of those is as elaborate as the resort event we got, but it's eight separate stories and those are the stories about the world - not the resort. Every single commission was small in scale but it was adding more to the world. There was a lot of lore to experience. Nowadays we have only a fraction of that. We do get told stuff in more detail, sure, but we get told less stuff overall.
>>850768 We literally still do help randos? The camera event was some random girl whose father created a talking camera. Also I don't really mind more focus on the agents anyway, but I think there's a pretty healthy mix.
>>850776 You seriously cannot be comparing the random ONE stage we got from 1.2 as reuse. If anything I was surprised back then we never had a racing event. >>850779 The resort is part of the world though?? It even ties more into the three gates TOPs politics.
>>850783 >The camera event was some random girl whose father created a talking camera. Yes. That event is gone forever. New players don't get to experience it. You don't get to replay it. And that was one event of that patch. Even 1.2 TV had more stories than that and it had like what? Two? Three?
>>850753 There's always a balance of content in the patch. Prolonged patches like 1.5 or 2.1 get more events which run out quickly anyways, 2.0 had a lot of exploration areas, 1.6 had two agent stories, earlier patches had side commissions, all patches have some minigame events and some filler fast-travel events either way.
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>>850788 >The resort is part of the world though?? Really? You think? Are you genuinely retarded? Which part of >eight separate stories and >We do get told stuff in more detail, sure, but we get told less stuff overall. did you not understand?
>>850790 So you just want more permanent events? I guess. And if we're being real they probably repackaged them all into events now because people weren't playing the side commissions. Why else would they create an item that let's you automatically collect the rewards? Other than being non-permanent i do not see what makes them different, if anything i would say it's a massive improvement. Also we do have yum cha sin commissions, why are people forgetting about that?
>>850800 >why are people forgetting about that because they suck ass
>>850797 We get told a ton of stuff though you troglodyte, are we seriously saying that zzz has a content problem? We've expanded onto exaltist shit and even got more into the past voidhunters even in "silly" events like the bangboo chess. I think you think that zzz should have the amount of world building in 1.0 which is obviously retarded. Of course there wouldn't be any. Not even 1.1 nor 1.2 had that. If anything we've gotten more than those 2 patches.
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Only joined the game 2 months ago so I didn't get to experience the original vision for TV mode, but I like what remains of it well enough. All the most memorable sidequests were in TV mode, and I find Withering Garden more interesting to navigate than the new Hollow Zero. But while it had more high points than the current approach, it also had more low points. It was all about being a super simple engine in which the devs could easily implement a bunch of different gameplay gimmicks, which is a neat idea, but a bunch of those gimmicks sucked. Like the one where you have a row of cannons to shoot incoming enemies. It's just a braindead slog with no challenge to it. At least with combat you know what you're getting.
>>850811 This discussion will never end because both side always try so hard in being right instead of discussing how both old and new stuff could be done better.
>>850812 this guy is a tv lover he adored the game when it had the most tv mode in it
>>850800 >And if we're being real they probably repackaged them all into events now because people weren't playing the side commissions. Why else would they create an item that let's you automatically collect the rewards? Look, you can skip all the dialogues, skip the cutscenes, not do the endgame and if you want, you can also not play the game if you want, just because the game gives you the option to skip something, doesn't mean that something doesn't need to exist. >Also we do have yum cha sin commissions, why are people forgetting about that? They are quite forgettable in this case, as they are all presented with exploration using the new exploration method, and excluding the introduction of Komano, they all boil down to going somewhere and then coming back, being like a delivery boy, without any interesting mechanics and presenting the world in a boring way.
>>850818 Thank God he left.

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>>850752 They own ZZZ, and by 2.5 they'll own the world.
>>850820 >they all boil down to going somewhere and then coming back, being like a delivery boy, Nigga one of the side commissions that you glaze is literally guiding a delivery bot that mirrors your movement granted i did like that
>>850800 >Also we do have yum cha sin commissions, why are people forgetting about that? Because they are forgettable and surface-level. The box busting commission in 1.0 had more character than most Yum Cha Sin commissions. That being said, Komano's quest line was pretty nice, I'll give you that. The Riddler one, meanwhile, was dogshit and a prime example of the core game mode being unsuited for storytelling-focused content. >>850808 >We get told a ton of stuff though We get told a ton of useless details. We get told very little "stuff" >are we seriously saying that zzz has a content problem? No, you retard, that's LITERALLY not what I said. Either pay attention or not engage in the conversation at all. >We've expanded onto exaltist shit and even got more into the past voidhunters Yes, we've experienced a story chapter. In 1.0 we would've experienced a story chapter and then 20 more side stories that would expand on the world, building it out from multiple angles. NO, RETARD, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT WE NEED 20 MORE COMMISSIONS, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. >course there wouldn't be any. Not even 1.1 1.1 still had a decent amount of side lore. But the reason 1.1 and 1.2 had less was not because it was "impossible" but because the devs were busy literally deleting the main storytelling medium that could've been used to tell those stories. That's a retarded comparison and you know it. TV mode content is dirt cheap. That's the point. We always could've had loads of it. Everything action-mode either has to be expensive or it has to be simple. Either is bad for world building.
I am what TVfags fear the most, someone who actually played the game since launch.
>>850816 TVfags ignore all downsides of TV and antiTVfags ignore all upsides i've seen it so much
>>850827 >I am what TVfags fear the most I do fear clueless ADHD retards with no reading comprehension, that much is true.
>>850825 So this is gameplay at least, unlike going to talk to an NPC and then going to talk to another NPC, to then return to the same NPC, without any change in gameplay or mechanics, not even a puzzle.
>>850826 You fucking said we get told a lot of useless stuff but then say the yum cha sin commissions are bad even though they expand on the lore of the people who have to work in hollows due to TOPs capitalism??? Ok tell me what fucking details of the world do you want. Like seriously. Give me specific shit. Because the lore of zzz had genuinely expanded a shitton.
>>850829 You say I'm adhd but then selectively decide what lore drops are useless or not. Ok dude.
>>850816 if anything, this just tells me ZZZ isn't getting newfags the game has been lacking TVs for like 90% of its playable existence
>>850832 Be real, TOPS "lore" just isn't that interesting at the moment. >Corporation acts like a corporation Big whoop. It's like thinking the Exaltists are interesting.
>>850834 The TVfags are a very loud minority, i don't even see that discourse on reddit nor Twitter anymore.
>>850834 But what do you think would make someone start playing ZZZ? What's unique about ZZZ compared to Genshin, HSR, or any other gacha that would make a new player interested in playing? I feel like they'd talk about the aesthetics and probably the hack-and-slash gameplay, but would that keep newcomers interested?
>>850838 Ok, so you just don't like the game. And I love corpos being corpos shit very fun yes, I love cyberpunk shit after all. What do you want, like gods fighting each other??? Also the fact that we got lore drops that there's a faction inside TOPs that specifically polices other TOPs makes things more fun.
>>850839 Yeah because the people on those sites are the majority which is filled with people like this
>>850841 The graphics and characters are much more interesting for certain people and that's really what every gacha boils down to. My friend picked up the game cause he wants to fuck Yixuan. It's an aesthetics led genre. If people have their waifu in the game or sexy girls or sexy males they will play it.
>>850832 >You fucking said we get told a lot of useless stuff No, you fucking illiterate retard, that's not what I said. Fucking READ. I said we are being told STUFF in a lot of USELESS DETAILS. That's not fucking the same. A parallel would be if you removed 10 TV commissions and instead made the one about the first date in hollow have 10 times the text in it. That's the useless details I'm talking about. Yum Cha Sin is bad because it's just bad. It's a bad implementation, that's it. Not because it expands or not but because it's just bad fucking content. Running throught he same fucking location you've been running through since 2.0 and getting 20 text prompts (that have LITERALLY nothing to do with the game's world) that don't even match what's happening on the screen is just SHIT. And that happens to be the Riddler quest. The grandpa quest was alright. Gameplay-wise it was literally nothing, but lore wise it did add something, sure. Komano's quest was good because it literally expands the game world - and it had a story in it to boot. But that's the only truly good Yum Cha Sin quest. Everything else is grandpa level. And Riddler is dogshit. What else do you not understand? >selectively decide what lore drops are useless or not That's not what I said, you ADHD cretin.
>>850843 I mean, yeah kinda. That's how it is. We're certainly not the majority. I'm not even with you TVfags anyway. Also let's be real ether is literally just magic from the start, just like how a billionth made up sci fi elements can be sci fi despite doing magical things, it's just more about how rigid the rules need to be.
>>850834 I don't think newfags would want to dive into this endless bickering since they see the entire TV thing differently than the oldfags.
>>850839 To be quite honest, no one discusses or talks about the game on social media, the most I see is people posting fanarts and getting horny over them. Like people don't go to the official reddit because they think it's just porn.
>>850830 The one actual puzzle from those comissions literally tells you the answer lmao
>>850777 >I'm actually having an easier time finding alice's same >>850834 I started in 2.0, I think withered garden is pretty neat and I like it slightly more than the weekly lost void but every other TV section sucks to different degrees
>>850851 What, I've seen plenty of discussion of the game on Twitter.
>>850847 What useless details though? You never specified. You just say shit bad and then old good but old commissions had plenty of fucking fluff too.
I want to fuck the vivian
I'm gonna have to grind my ass to get my 50/50 for the bnnuy. What's the best cope ball for her? I went all in on Yuzuha so I can't roll for her ball. >>850851 A lot of ZZZ discussion I've seen is on YouTube. Apparently a lot of people talk about it on Discord too.
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>>850860 >What useless details though? NIGGER >You never specified. I LITERALLY JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU THIS RETARDED >You just say shit bad and then old good but old commissions had plenty of fucking fluff too. THAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID, GO AND REREAD THE POST YOU FUCKING ADHD MORON LEAVE ME ALONE IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING READ AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK
>>850862 Gemini or Fusion is decent for bunner.
>>850852 Eating Bibian's butthole
>>850853 But that's the problem with all the puzzles in the game, all of them, even the ones outside of TV mode, give you an answer. This is a gacha, they don't want anyone trapped, because unfortunately gacha players are very stupid.
>>850862 >What's the best cope ball for her this piece of shit
>>850869 They should trudge on with puzzles anyway, just let normies look up the answer like the Genshin ones
>>850864 This. >A parallel would be if you removed 10 TV commissions and instead made the one about the first date in hollow have 10 times the text in it. >That's the useless details I'm talking about. Tells me nothing about the new details you find useless you retard. You posted a dogshit example. Tell me what new details you find useless you stupid fuck. Posting reaction images doesn't add credence to the shit you say when you say nothing YOU STUPID FUCK.
>>850869 Informative but unfortunate. When I did that puzzle commission I tried to figure it out myself, because it was simple memorization, then when I realized it would let me see the answer I didn't even bother. >>850867 >>850870 Perfect, I have a W3 copy of it gathering dust. Hopefully I get her. >inb4 it's an M6 for Soldier11
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TV... Good.
meebs will never get creeped
>>850876 I need to play deltarune
>>850878 >it's out Nice.
>>850876 chapter 4 > chapter 2 >> chapter 3 > chapter 1
>>850878 >yixuan ID Zhao is about to buff yixuan to T -1
>>850841 ZZZ is by far the most interactive gacha game I've played when it comes to combat. Something like HSR is half math half knowing how certain mechanics work, once you know that most of the game is static execution. Genshin is also a lot like that but in real time, it anything it feels even more dull than HSR despite being real time combat. Something like PGR has more buttons to press on paper, but then you look at endgame and all of it is some mashing rotation where you either stunlock the enemies or i-frame through everything. ZZZ not only doesn't have strict ability rotations are the core of its gameplay, but it actively encourages interacting with the enemies through the parries, most of the time you have to think on the fly what to do.
>>850884 you might be right.
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>>850869 <We gathered the clues, let's input the password (7777) to the console >WAOW Master did it! >Master is so cool! >Want a snack? >Need a break? >How about a piggyback ride!
>>850875 >M6 for Soldier11 GIWTWM
>>850880 You do. >>850882 I am partial to CH2 cause it introduced snowgrave and Queen.
>>850892 The funny part is that I'd much rather be jumpscared by the Shining Golden Kot. I picked her from my 300 selector and from the anniversary for her M1. If you had an M5 kot I'd trade you lol
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>>850884 Kinda mad they're finally adding variety to attackers and they decide to make a new class just to fuck over any synergy between the two. I hope she or at least the Horse is Seed but for rupture.
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>having melties before the designated melty time
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On an unrelated note, >the original DJ meebs animation on YT has its comments flooded by people referencing the neck hurts edit lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyktN7x_DSQ
>>850901 yeah idk why they introduced a brand new class but made it just attack (chinese), it's a bit annoying
>>850904 I think it's funny but I hope we don't get flooded by the "LOOOOOOL ANIME GIRL SAYS NIGGER AND HEIL HITLER" tourists that BA is infested with...
yixuan should've been physical
>>850906 Easier to mask the powercreep when it's a different class doing it.
>>850902 My wife and her best friend we have weekly threesomes with. >>850906 Kek
>>850901 >>850906 It's not like they don't know what to do with certain existing classes either, like why the hell does defense still exist?
>>850873 >Tells me nothing about the new details you find useless you retard. BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING ILLITERATE. AND STUPID. >Tell me what new details you find useless you stupid fuck. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, YOU FUCKING MORON AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH The point is that we don't get less text nowadays. We get fewer stories that are longer. For the purpose of world-building, a scenario with more separate stories is preferable, because it can tell you more about the world. Storytelling-wise, longer stories can hypothetically be better, but that depends on writing, and in ZZZ most longer-form stories don't really have stellar writing. When you are asking about "specifics" you are simply showing that you genuinely have no idea what's going on in the game. The whole "white text on black screen" was a common complaint exactly because the game's story got wordier but the writing is simply not there to prop it up. And because we barely have any real permanent side content, the vast majority of that stupid word salad tends to come in the form of the story. In 2.1 I actually had no issues with the story, aside from a bit of a slow start. But 1.7 was a lot of fucking exposition about several characters only for their respective stories to wrap up with a clear last moment rewrite resulting in a complete nothingburger, and a fucking waste of the other two. 95% of what we learned about them through the screens of purple prose was USELESS fucking DETAILS because at most 20% of that was necessary to properly wrap up Hugo's and Vivian's story arcs, while the remaining 80% had ultimately amounted to literally nothing, achieved nothing, did nothing, and will never ever be relevant ever again. Have you ever read a book? Can you understand the difference between engaging storytelling and boring exposition? That's what I'm talking about. The removal of TVs has reduced the amount of the former in favor of the latter, and most of that has happened precisely due to gameplay and budget constraints of the respective game modes.
>>850909 alright I'll finally give your id a reply yixuan did not creep miyabi
>>850913 No, she crept Zhu Yuan
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>>850907 I guess there's just something inherently comedic about a cute anime girl saying nigga. https://youtu.be/gu3z05UXO2I
damn I was expecting that shitposter to have something more funny prepared
Might as well ask, but do you think this game will get anything like oathing? Considering we already have the trust system.
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>>850893 I don't know if there's any reason to do a full-on genocide route, but I'm still tempted to redo snowgrave on my third save anyway just to continue on with it post chapter 4 I have no fucking clue what nightmare Toby had that inspired it, but I am utterly intrigued about what's gonna happen with Noelle
>>850918 Wouldn't count on it, no other Mihoyo game has had it unless the shit they made before Honkai Impact 3rd had.
>>850906 >Rupture agents have good damage while also having good survivability >In a game where dodging and parrying everything is the norm Is it for people who suck and get hit a lot? Because I really cant find a difference besides scaling off of different stats like HP
>>850918 I don't think it will.
>>850912 Ok if your example is 1.7 i kinda agree but that was like an outlier because it was the patch before a big update and those were usually pretty up and down, but I feel like it's the exception to the rule? Like it was following up 1.6 where we had a dense ass lore drops on how the military works and I would say even the 1.6 story was yet another good look at how the exaltists and TOPs works before 1.7 kinda fumbled.
>>850918 0% chance. The MC/agent relationship is nothing like the Commander/T-Doll one.
>>850911 Back in 1.0 I expected them to be big, tanky, slow counter heavy attackers like Ben but now that's just Shifu's niche. I guess they could just make all future defenders give sheer force to differentiate them from supports, but >new support ONLY set that's probably for 2.3's 1st banner agent >2 patches since we got rupture anything IDK.
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>>850921 Rupture is mostly a class that counters Miasma shields and is good for speedruns if Shifu's the gold standard for them.
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>>850919 [spoiler]>that scene where susie asks what you were talking about with noelle and the world freezes with a red tint and an empty dialogue box Ol' Toby has nothing but kinomaxx on the menu as per usual. Can't wait to see how it develops.[/spoiler]
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>>850936 >[spoiler]
>>850936 >he lacks critical information
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>>850936 Why do I have to spoiler each line, 8chan. It's barbaric.
>>850936 oh no
everyone post your laughing nickys
bibi had never witnessed murder before
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>>850940 >>850936 That's what haughty, bratty ojous get. You should try being more pure and lovely like a certain bun.
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>>850925 The point is, some of the stories we get are alright. 2.1 being very related. But we on average get way fewer of them, because the game format simply does not support it anymore. To give you an example of direct consequence - the entirety of Jane's special episode was intended to be a TV section, as revealed by the broken cheevo everyone got for free. Instead of following Jane through the entirety of her infiltration and getting introduced to more of the game's world, we only got to experience ~three evenings with her and a couple of encounters before that. That's the price we have been paying for the TV removal ever since. And I do not agree that gameplay-wise we have received a proper compensation for that. I'd argue only 2.0 started doing something about that. Before 2.0 we just got fewer stories, less lore, and worse gameplay. The devs should be happy they combat system is good enough for me to be entertained by the end-game grind autism, but the campaign quality has on average gone down considerably.
>>850918 >Oath Bit too far. Imagine Chinese metafags having to marry Lighter or some shit to get an extra few points in DA. I can see something like Bond Gear, half of the agents already have super special items they only share with you >Miyabi's hairpin, Corin's strawberry mochie, Astra's disc, etc. Give them a baby version of their LV gear and an extra trust event once you unlock their item, then you get to put their special item on your shelf.
>>850950 Maybe not oath, but in Persona, at a certain bond rank you can choose either soulmate or friend a girl. I think they should add more Trust stuff.
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>>850932 Damn she sure makes use of it lmao.
>>850948 Dude, it's literally just game debut vs follow up. Of course we have less stories, what. Game debut always needs to front load in order to build the base and after that it'll fluctuate based on patch importance. That's how all live service is. Like how all genshin patch cycles fizzle around x.3 until the new version cycle arrives.
>>850945 Razor gets bullied pretty hard by JK. Being a Hollow raider has its ups and downs.
>>850954 >Dude, it's literally just game debut vs follow up. No. I have literally addressed that. Stop being retarded. >Of course we have less stories, what. That's a retarded conflation. We don't get less text. We're getting fewer stories. I have literally addressed that. Stop being retarded. >Game debut always needs to front load in order to build the base That's completely irrelevant and isn't what we're dealing with. I have literally addressed that. Stop being retarded.
everyone please solemnly gather around to bid farewell to my xbox 360 controller, ZZZ has finally killed it
>>850869 There is a considerable overlap in intelligence between the dumbest gacha players and a hamster.
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>>850959 RIP latest one is better anyway
>>850957 Nigger i am not saying we get more text, I'm saying we get less stories. And that's fucking natural. And it is relevant. You saying it isn't relevant doesn't make it not relevant. You just simply do not know how it works. You want every patch to be like a new expansion for an RPG like shivering isles or whatever. I mean we do, it just gets broken up into multiple pieces on different patches.
>>850959 i miss my 360 pad so much xbone one is fine, but its sharper edges dont fit as well in my hands
>>850959 RIP, those were some of the last great 1st party controllers, lasted a shittton and could take a lot of punishment. How old was it bwo? Mine died after 12 years of daily use...
>>850959 My PC controller's RB is in a bad shape, and the movement stick is starting to drift. But it did last for quite a while.
>>850964 >I'm saying we get less stories. We do. >And that's fucking natural. It isn't, you fucking RETARD. That's the whole point. >And it is relevant. IT'S NOT, YOU FUCKING NIGGER, BECAUSE THAT'S LITERALLY NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU MIGHT THINK THAT YOU GETTING FUCKING IN THE ASS ON THE DAILY BASIS IS VERY RELEVANT TO THE CASHIER IN WALLMART BUT IT REALLY FUCKING ISN'T. >You want every patch to be like a new expansion NO YOU FUCKING RETARD FUCK OFF BACK AND REREAD MY POST 100 TIMES OR UNTIL YOU FUCKING GET IT, YOU RETARDED ILLITERATE ADHD NIGGER
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>can't upload images Cool
>>850959 It was a good run for old stuff. The 8Bitdo 2C Wukong I got only last 6 months playing this game.
>>850964 Well, even when we ended up receiving multiple stories, they ended up doing it in a way that was so shitty, because it needs to be a gacha and sell the characters at the time that it was all 1.6, 1.7 and all the build up for 2.0 too.
>>850973 >it isn't natural Look at this guy, you want him even more dead? >>850978
>>850979 >1.6 stories were shitty No one said this.
>>850985 I did, while Sanby's agent story was good the main story was terrible
>>850988 There's a point where your cobtrarianism starts being unbelievable.
>>850982 TV IS CHEAP, YOU STUPID FUCK. That's the whole point. That why it was added to begin with. I have mentioned that explicitly at least once and alluded to it metaphorically several times. Removing TVs made the game more expensive. Story-wise and lore-wise, we could've gotten LITERALLY the same experience or better for a fraction of the cost. The only difference is the gameplay, and the trade-off wasn't even positive. That I also have mentioned. PAY ATTENTION.
>>850974 >that Alice
>>850990 The trade off was positive though. The game still exists.
>>850989 Most people didn't enjoy 1.6's main story anon, don't let your hatred for TV's blind you into hating every single thing your debate opponent says
>>850985 1.6 was pretty mid, and 1.7 was so shit it retroactively made 1.6 worse.
>>850993 I get those cursed missing face wipeouts almost every time I finish a fight with her EX, it's horrifying.
>>850998 I was fucking there, I do not remember people hating on 1.6 main story at all, if anything people loved the way Vivian was handled. I think you people are confusing it for 1.7
>>850997 99% of the most vocal playerbase have already moved to other gachashit. ZZZ could've easily survived by sticking to its original vision and it would've ended up a better and more sustainable product in the end.
>>851000 Case in point.
>>850985 I liked the characters and the idea of the story but the script was bloated and poorly paced, though not as bad as 1.5 and 1.7.
>>850989 Nigga I don't know you other than this thread. They structured it terribly, expecting you to pause the main story halfway through or do the agent story first to make it make sense which is just dumb.
>>850998 >hating 1.6 Bullshit. 1.6 was great. 1.7 was shit in comparison
>>851005 >>851003 Both of you are so equally retarded in entirely different ways it's pretty impressive
We're still gonna be having TV debates in 3.0 aren't we?
>>851009 Nigga you do not need to do the agent quest to make it make sense. If anything that was the complaint.
>>851010 That's the thing 1.6 was inherently linked to 1.7, it was an okay lob but you can't ignore how 1.7 landed it, they're literally one story split up into two parts, and they sidelined Sanby and Trigger's stories when they should've been center stage doing their arc tied into the main story
>>851013 We'll add exploration mode into the TV debates, the more the merrier!
And fwiw i think 1.7 is mid but I do not get the hate for it outside the hugo section.
>>851016 Naw the story and story telling in 1.6 was good, I especially like how it explores Vivian fangirling but also how her prophecy thing worked with the mom.
>>851006 Nah the very premise of the mayor fixing an ailment you've had since the beginning of the game with a hard drive was pretty bad. Lycaon's moralfagging wasn't very interesting. Anby and Trigger feel like afterthoughts. Character interactions were though. I assumed the story would improve because it was obviously a set-up chapter for 1.7, but 1.7 spitting on 90% of that makes it worse in retrospect.
They should make more shadow characters to fight. Shadow Miyabi would be so fucking ass to fight.
>>851023 were good* though
Yall niggas better leave this shit in this thread
THREAD ENDING POST GOOD STUFF ILL BE WATCHING
>>851023 Lycaon's moralfagging was used against him though. The mayor thing felt like an asspull but it's also been building up for awhile. It's very obvious that we're not normal even back in 1.0, but we literally survived the bringer explosion in 1.4.
>>851023 I think this whole Lycaon moral thing is bullshit. Are you going to tell me you never killed any of the various raiders you encountered with those fucking jet-powered legs? Like, his entire agent story ends with him literally smashing one of the bandits' face in.
>>851003 >I do not remember people hating on 1.6 main story at all, if anything people loved the way Vivian was handled That was me, but that was the minority opinion, most people hated it and loved Vivian in 1.7. I only didn't like the atrocious gameplay and awkward pivot into exhaltists being the primary story mover
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>>851035 Reminder that our Agents murder people on the daily. They are all cold-clooded killers.
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>>851035 They turned into red cubes and crumbled back into the ether. Not killing, there's a difference bro.
>>851039 I genuinely do not remember it being a minority opinion what. And most of the Vivian fangirling thing was in 1.6 anyway, 1.7 was more her tragic backstory and then mostly Hugo stuff.
So what did we learn from this thread?
>>851042 Yes, this is one of the things I find interesting about the game, our characters work in a whole gray area and literally do illegal work.
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>>851033 >Lycaon's moralfagging was used against him though. Sure, but Hugo didn't even kill his dad nor did he kill Hartman AND he ended up working for the Mayor too. What was the point? Similarly, it makes sense that the proxies went into the hollow so they could save Vivian, but we did the same shit we would have done while piloting Eous for all of the other missions. What was the point? Anyway sex with Anby.
>>851046 This always happens during the dead part of each patch cycle.
>>851046 no one will ever change their opinion by getting called a nigger/cretin/faggot in an anonymous mongolian surfboarding imageboard, but people will keep trying
>>851045 >>851039 Well, I'm one of those people who the story made me dislike Vivian, I hate the whole vision of the future and being a fangirl thing.
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>>851046 That extended patches with zero (0) content lead us to madness and bickering.
ALICE'S SYMMETRICAL ASS BUNNER IS TOO DAMN LONG
>>851050 >Sure, but Hugo didn't even kill his dad That was such a stupid reveal. Made him a million times less interesting as a character.
>>851050 I find it funny how everything that 1.6 built and tried to discuss didn't lead to anything in 1.7 and made everything worse.

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>>851014 >Mayor cures your ether ineptitude "illness", the entire reason you're famous for being a proxy for using a bangboo, with a nvidia graphics update >Go with lycaon and ellen into a hollow to pick up a password off of the floor and get sucked off by dog man for being so fucking smart >Vivian turning from a decently interesting character to a drooling baboon groveling at your feet after she finds out >trigger and anby shoved in from a completely fucking different plot out of nowhere and do literally nothing >Take care of my sister, also im going to fake my own death for what turns out to be no reason, also I never actually did anything wrong and nothing was my fault and my epic backstory demon is being told with fucking Robin
>>851037 >>851038 >>851043 >>851050 >>851059 thanks for the good posts bros >>851038 >2nd pic i needed that nut
my cock inside Bibi vagina
>we have r/hsrhusbandomains and r/queersofgacha posting here
>>851063 Ok whatever the reason for the fake death was to avoid the ravenlocks and set up his gay plan but everything else was dogshit
>>851075 n(1)gga what the fuck are you talking about
>>851082 Posters from those 2 hate Vivian like it's a scar on their soul.


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