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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 08/29/2025 (Fri) 00:50:50 Id: 27c4e3 No. 898836
Previous: >>894173 >News Agent Record | Yidhari https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205 Agent Record | Komano Manato https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172 Agent Record | Lucia https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818 Version 2.2 "Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night" Special Program https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/kBQnjxq8Fc8 (EN) https://youtu.be/J8msJFQ8NNc (JP) https://youtu.be/Fp7tFxXMoRM (EN) https://youtu.be/El0GKaGBNyc (JP) https://youtu.be/fFU7rj7IoLo (EN) https://youtu.be/c4mHDmvrn4M (JP) https://youtu.be/yV8loyeDX_M (EN) https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.1 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696 All-New Program 07/16 - 09/03 Tales of Midsummer Dreams 07/17 - 09/03 Legend of the Marvelous Fish Stall 07/22 - 08/11 "En-Nah" Chess Legend 07/28 - 09/03 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 08/01 - 08/06 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 08/06 - 09/03 Ghost Ship Adventure 08/06 - 08/25 JoJo's Space Mystery 08/13 - 08/25 Failume Summer Puzzle 08/20 - 09/03 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 08/27 - 09/01 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ21SUMMER ALICEYUZUHA >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
Sex with my ID
JU FUFU ID NAO GAO
>>898836 holy fuck manato summer skin
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anal sex with my ID
my id is the best (wo)man at my wedding with chinky
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kissing my ID on the mouth (tongue maybe)
>>898847 okay tongue definitely
>>898847 wtf bro
ROLLAN My ID and I will be trapped in a room and can't leave until we have raw babymaking sex
>>898852 susie will only let you smash if you go to her store right now and max out every engine
cute kot
Rolling for goat
Rolling!!!
>>898858 Ugh.. I don't wanna be a pig...
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>>898849 sorry man, fate decided for me
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My ID tells me to have sex with Astra Yao
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>>898856 nice fufuroll
my id fucks their mom
Fucking Belle in front of my id
My id tied me up and raped me
>>898873 NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Are Lucia and yiddy id’s in yet? If not I don’t want sex with my id first anon to reply gets to fuck mine
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>>898869 I certainly don't blame her
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>898878 FUCK YOU
6 more days
So for October, think they'll do a Scary Movie event? Basically taking agents to watch horror movies?
Bwos my new RAM finally came and now my PC isn't having 1s freezes anymore.
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Lovey dovey cuddlesex on a saturday morning with my id.
You want to bang occult pussy
>>898895 Yoooo
check out my sexy ID
>>898899 I'd plant a whole platoon of child soldiers in Twiggy, it would fix her
>>898906 Meh overplayed reset your ip and roll again
drinking jaeger and watching woody harrelson movies with my ID
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>monster hunter got a street figher collab when is /our/ street figher collab?
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>>895589 Never rolling ayaka 2 bwo
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FUCK this lazy grandma
I will M6 my ID
>>898925 uh oh
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>>898925 Based!
>>898925 >>898928 Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice Go go!
sneed teaser is tonight btw
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Dark skin agent when?
>>898925 Crit burnice is so fire
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>>898948 soon hopefully, wanna see what they can come up with, in Genshin dark-skinned ladies have been mostly misses and HSR hasn't even got a single one yet
Zhao ID
>>898948 You're getting one after the Obol patch.
>>898959 >Cangle Ice support confirmed
>>898948 Never Asia markets don't want dark skins
>>898963 I am going to explode asia markets with my mind
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Which agent would you do this with?
>>898963 I keep seeing Yuzuha with giant tits in the thumbnail.
>>898894 lfg anon!
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>>898948 I miss the good old days when I could post in a qtbrown thread
>>898892 Nah, it'll be a trick-or-treating event where agents will come to the video store to trick-or-treat. But your fatass sister ate all the treats so there's only tricks left. The trick is rape.
>>898996 anby if she from da hood
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there wasn't enough anomaly shilling, 2.4 will feature 2 new off-field anomalies
So, I'm running Alice with Jane's ball and Nagi with Compiler. Which sig would be better considering the first? I only have enough for one...
One Sneed ID onegai!
I dont care about this blonde dyke
>>899073 both are about a 17% damage increase for each agent id guess alice does more damage so her's would be a bigger upgrade you can do tower/LV and check the damage distribution to be sure
>>898902 infinite mileage out of this porker
I don't think I've ever seen an Astra ID.
>>899001 this trick sucks I wanted skor bars
2 hours until Seed short film
2 hours until Seed blows your dick off
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Today is Day 11 of Seed Nofap!
>>899125 One week til the Seed is released
>>899125 sorry Seed...I've failed you
My ID is my mom
>>899142 Have fun with your genetic predisposition towards mega diabetes
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>>899125 These Koikatsu scenes are melting my PC, but I'm approaching 30 videos in total. That's going to be quite the spam. Does anyone else have any other suggestions for lewd videos with Seed? These should be the very last.
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>>899149 I only have a question: But for serious, why the glasses.
>>899144 what if she is just normal and really nice and not a slut like everything thinks she is?
>>899158 what if we had a collab with Anko's game?
Shooting my cum down my id's throat while they masturbate.
SHEZA SEXO
>>899158 I've explained it twice, but a lot of scenes use faceless or expressionless males. The glasses hide the often blank eyes. I also think they look funny.
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>>899167 Aaaaah. Neat!
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>>899162 Give us Carlotta
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Lighter should've been a girl
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>>899162 >collab with Anko's game >ensure thread melty for at least few months brilliant
>>899175 wasn't expecting people to drop trvkes here of all places
Ceasar should have been a strong attacker.
Burnice should have been a guy
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>>899188 soc character with this energy when?
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My ID raped me
If I can't get Fufu, I give my ass up to whatever id I get.
>>899188 this is the most children coded mobage I've seen in a while...mmmmh maybe I could turn my nephew into a hoyofan with this...
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>>899149 You fought the good fight, anon.
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>>899188 >nexus AAAAAHHHHHHH
Wait! You can't! We're brother and si
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I was taking a gander at the Japanese ZZZ Twitter account and Bibian still has the most liked drip marketing at 76K
Alice ID = 10 pull
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>>899171 Also webm related.
>>899210 Evelyns hippo ass ID saved my pulls again
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>>899206 I've finally found someone who likes both ZZZ and Madness Combat, we are brothers now
>>899188 is this thier pokemon ripoff ?
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>>899188 But I don't want to divert my gacha game attention...
>>899188 smh, first they rip off botw, then persona 5, now they're ripping off pokemon. can't these fuckers produce a single original idea?
>>899188 if you pull for the pokemon I might actually play this
>>899188 They're not evening trying to hide the fact they want kids to gamble anymore
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>>899221 ENTER
>>899217 Hard to say what the gameplay scope will be but collecting pokemans seems like a huge part of it. If I were to guess it'll probably be autochess, pokemans, and maybe animal crossing combined. Signed up for the beta for the lulz
>>899225 no nut november was already invented
I haven't started the autochess event yet. How bad is it?
>>899215 I refuse to believe there are only 2 of us here, these animations used to be so ubiquitous
>>899233 It's piss easy, unless maybe if you're going for the super duper secret Sunbringer easter egg which I forgot how to get.
>>899233 Wuxia wordslop if you try to read it, getting curbstomped by metasweats in PvP if you try to PvP it. Otherwise, pretty meh.
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>>899233 Just skip the dialogue if you aren't familiar with wuxia. Lore crumbs are at the very end. >>899237 You gotta hit ether carrot. It's pic rel.
Did they nerf sneed?
>>899244 yeah shes still good tho, they buffed Orphie becuase they know peole are going to Onfield her.
>>899248 How bad? From my understanding, sneed before was almost astra level support for her partnered attack agent and got the same buffs for herself.
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I don't like autochess enough to play a whole game of it. Sorry honkeks. Especially when the monsters look like garbage.
>>899188 welp, too many homos, this is clearly not for me
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>>899261 It's a nothingburger, they took around -20 ATK% off some of her MVs and -5% from her DMG% buff. >almost astra level support It ain't almost, Seed STRONG but she's not really a support. She's the main damage dealer, and they made her require a second attacker to curb her power.
Sex with Trigger btw
>>899188 As a 38-year old grown ass man, I can't see myself playing this. It seems highly marketed towards kids and women.
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My wife and her beautiful smile.
>>899330 she's not that large...
>>899330 trigger is a medium at most...
>>899333 it might snag a few degenerates too
>>899188 I thought it was like Pokemon but it's just an auto-battler?
>>899188 autochess PVP sounds like the opposite you want with gacha mechanics.
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Why did the IDs change
>>899388 I have no ID
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Who benefits from their siggy more, Seed or Orphie? Or rather; who would suffer more from having to use a copeball?
>>899388 Because you touch yourself at night
>>899401 Orphie by far. Her best copeball is Anton's. Let that sink in.
Midsummer secret was a teaser for new enemies. Only enemies on hakush without a portrait are tagged as PubSec. Any guessers as to how this relates to future patches?
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>>899412 Mein Gott...
>>899414 Qingy becomes evil and takes control of all NEPS machines
What's Orphie's favorite bionicle?
>>899414 not hard to guess, since you're fighting TOPS goons in that event
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>>899428 Me and my ID teaming up to 💢 CORRECT 💢 THIS 💢 POLICE 💢 BRAT 💢
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>>899446 orphie plays with army men while magus tries to use them to teach her tactics
Orphie has an Ultra Lord figure like Sheen from Jimmy Neutron
Would brimstone be alright on sneed?
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>>899463 that's all i'm giving her or maybe the macato. who the hell has rolls for balls when there are so many characters coming up?
>>899452 Damn there's like no art of these two in the same picture.
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>>899475 I'm getting Yid's ball for sure because glowing tentacles
>>899475 Me but I might not get sneed's ball depending on how my rolls for seuin sky goes.
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>>899406 What are you, ten?
>Nothing maybe tomorrow...
>>899495 Ten out of ten.
>>899188 sex with nanafey
>>899401 Orphie does, You can use Sanbys sig for Seed but Orphie literally has to choose between ANtons or fucking Korins ball and they are kinda garbage.
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Hood classic
>>899548 >autochess Never mind I'm not interested at all
>>899498 I guess they'll post during the weekend...
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>>899188 This looks absolutely boring but why is fucking Blade in there? Is this gonna be the fabled Hoyoverse crossover game?
Nicole wife Good life
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>>899548 I can see it now. You pull for trainers who have unique abilities like in our bangboo autochess then, on a separate gacha are the pokemons, which is like, the equivalent to wengines for us. one trainer gets one ace pokemon. and finally disc mines in the form of other board pieces. they have main stats and substats and you will seethe at getting +4 on flat def
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How many players are we going to lose to this...
>>899581 they could just copy pokmeon and have the monsters be like relics/artifacts/discs that you slot in with your roster, and then they all come with IVs and you STILL have to deal with rng subs.
>>899597 >dealing with IVs in autochess *shudder*
Though I have to say Bangboos >>>>>> the fuck ass monster designs so far.
>>899600 hoyo simply just needs to release their own version of vaporeon
>>899597 like echoes?
>>899605 yeah, but given hoyo tendency to have both a character banner and a 'weapon' banner which doesnt apply here, I'm sure they'll add a monster banner as well to sell premium mons.
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>not symmetrical time Sorry Alice but your fat ass bunner is starting to affect me
Taking my ID to Gravity Cinema for a movie marathon
What does sneed even do
>>899717 Rides a scooter barefoot around New Eridu when she isn't commiting war crimes
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>>899728 This is a very confusing chart what.
>>899728 am I reading this right? gilded is better than her sig?
>>899717 seed dies
>>899768 gilded is 88.84% of her sig
Can someone tell me why there's rebel soldiers in New Eridu? What's their beef?
>>899775 The fuck is the %gilded column then
>>899790 Something something humanity will keep fighting each other until only one is left in the entire world something something.
>>899790 conflict of interests
>>899792 % compared to gilded
>>899188 >more males in 1.0 then the entirety of ZZZ's yearlong existence >for a fucking autochesser This shit fucking sucks they can make so many good looking male designs but they just choose not to, instead it's Yixuan and her 2 clones
I have exclusively fapped to Evernight for the past week Soon it will be Orphie's turn
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the game looks like it's for f*ids so I'm not surprised it has a lot of m*les
>more males in a game marketed towards women than a game marketed towards straight men
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>>899728 Marcato/Gilded copium isn't looking as dire as I thought it would. Perhaps I'll be okay after all.
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>>899813 >game about saving the world >tons of evil men as bosses >overworld has tons of male NPCs >agents are over 90% women It literally makes no sense why the gender ratios aren't 50/50 in this game like Arknights or any of the other gachas. This new Pokemon clone is propf
>>899790 Distraction from the TOPS elites actively trying to hide the Bringer island flight list.
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The fact that all the monsters are soft and cutesy and there aren't any cool mons is all i need to know.
>>899822 >propf rape
When are they going to reveal that Anby is the clone of Yixuan.
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What the actual FUCK did he mean by this???
>>899831 "Clone" its called iterative improvement
>>899790 inc*l uprising
>>899854 Holy shit it's updog
>full obol team is the highest score I won.
ummmmm where is the S11 team
>>899863 >>full obol team >Sanby
>>899863 Double DPS days are upon us, glory be >the Haru disclaimer
>>899828 there are a few in there, but I guess they're supposed to be the mounts or something
>>899865 generally means they might not have been available on the CC server
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>>899865 >all medium-hard to play GUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>899863 Impresive, very nice... Let's see Nekomata's team
>>899863 I'm surprised there's merit in actually playing the other attacker, I kinda expected her to be a reverse wheelchair. She kinda still is since half of these teams have the DPS running a support disc or doing fuck all, but their performance is closer than I expected.
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>>899876 If only there was a braindead off-field attacker to make things easier...
>>899475 I've only rolled mibis ball, don't regret it because I use her to this day and I'm not planning on stopping. Debating picking up twigga ball so I can swap off harmony to KotS Picking up all 3 idol balls because I'm using IoD until eous. My biggest problem with balls is I know you don't need them to clear and they'll never recover the pulls you spend to get them but agents feel like ass to build without them now more then ever since were falling into the creep of agents that scale off stats the f2p balls don't have.
>>899882 >it was at this moment I was priced out of OBOL comp Sorry, gotta save for Lucia and Zhao
Also stupid motherfuckers keep not testing Seed Sanby in beta and turns out they're super fucking good together
>>899882 WHO'S THAT POKEMON??!!!
>>899893 IT'S PIKACHU
>>899882 >Orphie front and center of the whole next story patch >Seed is the headliner though. Really doesnt make sense.
>>899893 PIKACHU
>>899897 schedule makes perfect sense. orph is the QOL sale the same way that fufu is the QOL sale for shifu.
>>899895 IT'S NEKOMATA!!!
>>899904 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>899596 >1:20 UOOOOH
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>>899893 IT'S AIBO!
>>899596 >autochess slop clearly marketed at women/children >vs a "gooner" action rpg with a decent amount of actual gameplay there's almost no target audience overlap aside from the people who will just play it because it's a hoyo game
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>>899863 >>899865 Seed + SAnby don't really have any synergy going on and looking at Hakushin, I don't think Anby buffs (if any) are currently online. Outside of being able to run Thunder Metal on both SAnby and Seed I guess, which isn't nothing. That is to say, S11/Seed/Trigger should work pretty well.
>>899863 >due to some circumstances i wasnt able to test them Possible buffs in play here???
>>899892 >no Jane/Alice >no Seed/Sanby >now no Shifu/Yiddy teams Bweh, I just want to know if the health redistribution on Shifu's ult will give Yiddy decibels.
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>>899596 Not enough. Jokes aside what are those vtumor looking ass characters?
>>899596 This shit look like mirai nikki and genshit slop, what the kek
>>899863 so im guessing ill go Trigger+seed+harumusa btw this guys channel is pretty great glad he does these.
>open world >4 niggas in a row >arena hack n slash >pokemans tft next one will be a shootan
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People are calling Pokémon, but it actually looks like it plays the same as TFT from lol that is super popular and sucks a lot of money from people now a days. They might have seen it was really popular and lol was making a munch of money off it and want to get the same money since it looks like it will work around the same.
Tencent isn't gonna like Mihoyo siphoning TFT's playerbase...
>>899953 The visuals make it look targeted at women and literal children, so I doubt they'll spend as much as lolfags do.
>>899863 Kind of surprised they didn't test ellen. That's who I plan on running with sneed
>>899946 shooting game. it'll basically ne like nikke but none of the backshots
Why is my sister so damn hot?
>>899957 wait until the battle royal comes out
>>899965 Ben has a sister? Death by snusnu.
>>899958 >The visuals make it look targeted at women and literal children Have you seen TFT lamo?
>>899969 >Ben but that's chinky?
>>899931 This is literaly Ironmouse
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>>899974 >>899989 we went from Completive Quake/counter strike and RTS to this? what makes the newer generations like autochess so much.
>>899974 >>899989 kek, nevermind then
>>900002 smartphones
>>899964 >nikke >shooting game
>>899921 being able to play barbie with your character appeals to a certain subset of coomers like me
>>900030 I think you might be trans.
>>900002 it doesn't cause them as much stress and anxiety. the poor things have been through a lot
>>899957 Tencent doesn't like MIHOYO (ever since HOYO refused the buyout offer) anyway so might as well just take your shot. What are they gonna do? Slander you some more than they already do?
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We got called out...
>>899957 >>900036 You have two choices for modern gaming, Chinese company who wants to steal your data, or Chinese company who wants to steal your data that also owns league of legends
>>899863 My Corin gets to come off the bench for three weeks, neat.
>>900033 I like treating girls as dress up dolls irl too, I'm a control freak sicko not a troon sicko
>>900040 >Chinese company who wants to steal your data that also owns league of legends This one is 100% times worst
>>900038 fixed that shitpost for you
You guys ready being milked to fund the new honker game? I fucking hope they maintain the quality at least
>>900042 didn't you take her off the bench for this physical shill patch?
>>900038 This makes less sense when we have so many lolis
>>899596 Hopefully all of the ones melting down over mAnAto being an A-rank.
Ok but when is hoyo going to make this but an anime gacha
>>900048 Have you seen our latest character designs?
>>900053 just download one of the many anime reskin mods, anon
>>899863 The only thing I get out of this is >No Trigger = don't even think about pulling Seed I mean, I wasn't planning to. But this just cemented my decision.
>>900053 this but with boos
>>900056 He said he wanted to test qing yi but never got the chance to. But also why aren't you rolling trigger are you gay?
>>900056 they're giving me two full skip patches, my fun money account is pleased
>>900056 same. more for orphie and eve, I guess
>>900062 More like every western game for the past 5+ years but not enough rainbow flags.
>>900049 I pulled the JKs... Haven't even touched her since she carried me from release all the way up to 1.4. I swear I will give her a proper build one day...
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>>900047 As if the newer males aren't all anime pretty boys.
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>>900059 Because Astra (the first time) and Yuzuha/Alice (now) threw me to the ground and took almost all my polys...
>>900074 >leaving out pan and manato.
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>>900038 if you're going to post this crap here at least let me read the comments
>>900079 Unfortunate. But to me this is yet another way for me to free up astra for other teams.
>>900080 >S Rank
>>900086 I don't see s rank mentioned anywhere
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if they're so mad about gender ratio why don't they make their own game?
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>>900088 It's never about having your own thing, it's about ruining it for the other side.
>>899188 >autochess Do people actually hyped for this? If you played any of the autochess events in any of the hoyo games you've played you probably realized it's the kind of stuff you only want to do for a short while and not touch again in the next few months or even a year.
Drinking my IDs milk straight from the source!
>>900099 Caesar fat tits saved me from starvation
>>900098 It's a big genre so it has its audience.
>>900098 It's become a really massive crowd of people who play, younger people really really love auto chess.
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>>900098 It looks like there's a variety of minigames nested within in an open world with autochess being one of them. Not4me but I can see the appeal for the growing demographic of ultra casual cozygamers out there in addition to the autochess niggas.
>>899188 HMMMMMM
>>900098 personally the only reason I don't like it is because it's pvp shop rerolling and building a team scratches my gambling itch
>>899863 >hard >medium-hard where are easy teams?
>>900111 RIGHT HERE
So I was finishing up Yuzuha's side story from the event and Alice mentioned something about not even knowing where to find equipment to play video tapes anymore. I thought videotapes were the default home movie format in New Eridu. Or was Sixth Street just full of hipsters this whole time? >>900093 I like that their idea of ruining it for me is giving me skip patches then lol. Or you know if they are legit cool like Lighter I'll roll for them.
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Only 7 more months until Alice's fat ass bunner finally ends! I cannot believe that it's already been 30 years!
>>900117 6th street is full of hipsters
>>900107 Whatever happened to that animal crossing game they were making anyway? Did it just turn into this.
>>900125 wtf we have bangboo ID now?
>>900126 Fuark.......
>>899206 Havent played this in years I remember quitting it because the arena mode was way too hard
>>899863 Based Simpleton
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>>899863 Yeah okay I'm fine with getting Orphie instead of her. Her SAnby team doesn't look that exciting
Almost lost Seed nofap a few minutes ago
>>900144 A fine addition to my Ju Fufu gooning folder
That bangboo chess game is the slowest shit I have ever touched in this game. Complete waste of time for the stupid 200 polychromes.
>>900144 >first pic I love that artist
HP BLOAT YAMERO AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE A pretty good shiyu, no disgusting waves, optimizing it is probably going to be fun
My ID kidnapps shotas at night
>>900224 Despite all the doomposting all the miasma shield enemies are some of the better designed ones. putting miasma onto older enemies, on the other hand...
>>900232 the clown is really good, the fiend is okay except for that lame sequence, priest is okay except the game really really doesn't want her to be stunned before she gets her shield. still better than shit like typhon
While I dont get Orphie should I use Corin with Seed? My only other limited attacker is Eve and my Billy/Anton/Kot are not build
>>900326 She should work well with eve actually. She just wants an attacker that wants to dump EX outside of stun and then dump damage in stun.
>>900192 I played for hours the first day never to touch it again. Once you figure a winning formation it becomes braindead
I don't follow leaks much but I just saw the leaks about a new endgame mode. I don't like the idea of a new endgame. I like DA too much, it's the perfect endgame content, the new mode doesn't stand a chance against it and it will just be there to make me upset if it ends up delaying DA by a week or, Allah forbid, turn it into monthly content like IT did with the abyss in Genshin.
>>900344 Part of the problem is that usually the opponents are one human and the rest bots, and the bots are total garbage. I had one interesting game where it was all human players but it was kinda frustrating because I got utterly fucked by RNG
how come no one is posting their shiyu clear?
>>900347 From what I read it won't delay anything, only add more to do, which is what we desperatly need. DA and Shiyu is literally the only fun thing to do in ZZZ and everything else is filler, and you only get it once a week. IMO all 3 of the endgame modes should refresh weekly. Shiyu on Friday, DA on Saturday and the new one on Sunday. Or all 3 resetting on Friday at once and then you do them when you want to in 7 days.
>>900387 >not milking biweekly content over several days for maximum enjoyment
>>899863 Kot team will probably rank between ZY and Homo
Fine I'll post my clear then
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>Burnice dead on floor 4
>seed skin >before miyabi gets one holy fucking shilling
>>900486 >>900483 ok nvm some cuck posted a fanfic on leaks reddit why do they allow randos to post there
>>900492 I mean it's pretty obvious because the skin art has different poses lol
>>900492 I almost believed it too since the beta just updated
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aaand done, back to alice's game killing bunner
>>900495 it's more obvious because the livestream didn't mention anything
>>900483 >>900483 Alternate skin always have different pose, bwo...
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>161mil HP butcher Holy shit.
>>900539 Holy fuck, please don't, god damn
>>900539 It is starting to feel like I am playing HSR again
>>900539 >he didn't get an M0 DA kill while it was still possible >now he will never, EVER know that feel
>>900539 >~50% hp increase
>>900539 had to shill rupture, please understand
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>>900546 Yuzuha killed him for me
>>900539 Man they really want us to roll for Yiddy huh? but why the fuck is everyone else getting more HP wtf?
>>900539 I thought the HP bloat was out of control months ago. Such a cheap way of increasing difficulty
>>900539 good thing I dont have to care about this because I never max rating clear in the first place
>>900539 I will continue to do 6* clears
>>900539 >bro you can totally clear content with all units bro >they'll never raise the hp and DA cap agsain bro I literally told you faggots, but I didn't think it'd happen this early.
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>>900562 >gets 13k in all three fights
Good morning?
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>>900565 If that happens then I'll melty
>>900387 I've been skipping, so it's not worth posting my A rank clear
>>900546 literally with who
>>900539 btw here's the available buffs to select for that season.
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>>900387 dead game, dead general eos in 2 weeks btw
>>900579 Once the mode soft requires you into needing the newest units to full clear I’m going to be much less inclined to spend money on this game btw
>>900582 had a good run i guess
>>900539 I never came even close to killing a DA boss anyway, so for all I care let whales feel stronger
>>900579 >Ether Anomaly Does that mean that Vivian is running with Lucia ??? holy fuck.
>>900563 >they'll never raise the hp and DA cap agsain bro Not one living being ever thought that
>>900579 >shifu and alice wank what's the problem? we all rolled right?
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I still believe in my m0w1 mibibi
balls
>>900610 Need Yiddy tentacles
>>900610 Lucia not beating the Chink Wank allegations
>>900610 I thought Fufu's ball was a gypsy ball, now THIS is a gypsy ball
6 days left fuark Seed i need you please just give me her already my nagi will get burnout from how hard shes carrying me
Either we'll have the Ju fufu rerun in 2.4 or we'll actually have a new stunner in 2.4.
>>900630 >2.4 Zhao will be a stun character.
>>900630 Qingyi rerun. Lighter rerun. A-rank Anby rerun. Trigger rerun (again).
>>900635 imagine the meltdown...
>>900635 I'll be really pissed if that's the case, but I don't doubt it.
>>900630 Fufu should be getting a rerun... Unless
its mibiover
>>900610 What do those tentacles taste like?
>>900635 I will roll regardless of what she does
>>900630 I don't think these buffs account for rerun characters usually. If 2.4 has stunner shilling, it's likely a new agent
>>900635 As long as she exists as a playable agent everything is alright
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>>900630 i said fufu rerun days ago
>>900646 They do. It's now Electric anomaly shilling for Naggers, 2.3 has Ether shilling for Yixuan
>>900630 i should of really locked in when i was getting 50k scores 2 months ago its joever now unless you whale to kill a DA boss
>>900649 Would it be strange for the 2.3 reruns to be Yixuan and Ju Fufu? Like, Astra had a really quick rerun too, and most of the buffs are all Rupture-related, and we only have one Rupture agent.
>yuzuha can do the triple parry on typhon SOLO https://youtu.be/zOn859ehceA?si=eUaBXbp8FGqkDftC&t=27 holy fuck I never knew this
>>900635 >Zhao will be a stun character. Please no..
>>900657 Yixuan makes a lot of sense, while there is gonna be Manato you probably want to have a meta Rupture DPS running with your Rupture support. Fufu could just be in 2.4, both Yixuan and Yid have their own alternatives for her.
>>900597 I hope so, I'm about 99% sure they're rerunning Yixuan + Tiger because it's a rupture shill patch like they reran Miyabi and Yanagi this patch.
>>900657 2.3 might have Yi Xuan/Anby if her buff comes in 2.3.
>>900662 This is the run of how Grace became employee of the month
>>900677 >unfreezable, ice rez, inflated hp So they really want to kill Meebs huh. Looks like devs finally got fed up and are taking the easy way out to sell their new units.
>>900666 >>900668 If Yixuan gets a rerun this early, it gives me the impression that we're really going to have a hyped character in 2.4.
>>900683 >ice rez bro can't read numbers
>>900662 No wonder they're inflating HP so much if m1 Grace can get kills because of busted supports.
>>900635 or Rupture with Stun stuff in her kit Lots of Sheer in those buffs
>>900687 >its only 20% yeah look how that worked out for the hp kek
>>900693 dawg it says -20% MINUS 20%
>>900689 If that's the case, Rupture will have two styles, Rupture units focused on using all resources during Stun like Yixuan and Rupture units focused on using HP for their attacks like Yid.
>>900694 oh i thought it was just to denote like a list
>>900697 why on earth would they give ice resistance during a patch with a limited ice dps
>>900686 Why? There isn't any pattern supporting that. Hyped character (Ye Shunguang) is most likely in 2.5 on half anniversary.
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>weapon 3 times the size
>Ye Shunguang >hyped character
>>900669 While they don't necessarily need to rerun her because of the buffs, Ellen got her buffs in 2.0 and hasn't had any reruns yet. And the 2.3 Shiyu Defense doesn't have any Sanby-focused buffs either.
>>900708 >>Ye Shunguang I played through each story patch without skipping and still don't know where she was even mentioned or hyped up. At first I thought you guys meant Yixuan's sister or something.
>>900708 only hyped those who manifested her to be a VH for some reason
>>900710 They don't have to rerun her, but I figure they want to soon since Trigger is rerunning in 2.2 and every other Obol member is getting released. If not 2.3 then 2.4 surely.
>>900610 >ship getting swallowed by a Kraken Kino design, possibly my favourite so far
>>900040 >Chinese company who wants to steal your data that also owns league of legends Clearly the first option is better.
>>900575 M0W0 Miyabi has been able to clear every single Ice weak DA so far, but it looks like this is the end of the road for M0W0 Miyabi with Lycaon instead of Yuzuha, at least
>>900702 >>900708 I say this because it's now in 2.3 that they're really going to introduce her, so they're quite late in hyping Ye Shunguang, maybe she'll have something more in 2.4, but at the same time Zhao is starting to be hyped being introduced in 2.2 and will have a presence 2.3, and 2.4 will come out right at the end of the year in November and take up a bit of December.

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More Deadly Assault info for 7.3 TL'DR: More HP increases, and Miyabi is completley bricked.
>>900725 For me, it makes more sense to have her rerun in 2.4, because for example, if Zhao is the hyped character, she won't have the same number of sales as Miyabi or Yixuan, she's a kemololi, so her having a rerun alongside Sanby, who is the game's mascot, who will have the Hype because of the buffs, right at the end of the year to give a boost to sales, makes more sense to me.
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Stunner bunner
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>>900755 >completely bricked #Doubt
>>900745 Yep, makes sense, Zhao and maybe some other member of Krampus for Christmas in December, Ye Shunguang and Ye Shiyuan for half anni in January, idols for CNY in February (triple banner, one free)
>>900610 I'm going to ram my ship into yiddy
My ID is coming on to me really strong and I dunno what to do...
>>900771 OOK'D.COM
>>900771 Ook'd
>>900662 I never realized yuzuha was void hunter level
>>900758 i hope we get this
>>900776 Yuzuha is a mermaid hybrid and legitimately a superhuman capable of giving birth to triplets at the same time
>>900539 endgame becoming too sweaty gives me >less reason to engage with endgame >less reason to roll new units I don't absolutely love >less chance of spending money on the game in a fit of retardation excellent, proceed
>>900762 Even if Zhao isn't the Void Hunter we want her to be or the hyped character, I think it makes much more sense for her to arrive in 2.4, and I think we'd stick to the timeline you mentioned. While I really want it to be the Zhao the devs mentioned, I wouldn't doubt that Ye Shunguang will be the character with the giant sword (even though I think the sword only becomes giant during her ult).
>>900763 elaborate
>>900758 >>900778 I hope Dagasi makes arts of her.
>>900755 >ice weak >miyabi bricked Dawg... I'm gonna hold your hand while I tell you this
I signed up for the beta to the new game, but I don't know about a gacha pokemon game. I didn't play Masters EX and that has characters from my childhood
Yo
>>900827 >TFT but with chinky P2W model
>>900827 >I signed up for the beta to the new game but... why?
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>>900731 Here's some renders
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>>900775 >we can be el gato'd by IDs now
>>900843 >>900845 >>900849 it's kinda underwhelming?
>>900839 I'm still mad about not getting into the zzz one is why
>>900853 Yeah I probably should've waited for actual in-game footage
>>900853 Let's wait and see if there's a cool animation.
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>>900889 >8 million Disorder proc
The masculine urge to jack off, fail Seed nofap, and not tell anyone if I actually failed
>>900843 >mfw I finally understand with Yidhari is wearing Holy fuck shes supposed to be wearing a Sailors Uniform. bro that shit is ass.
>>900915 >that >Sailors Uniform
Look at her design and then look at her W-Engine and think about it.
>>900930 Why do concept arts always look better than the final product?
mod is sleeping, post porn
>>900930 I kind of see it, mainly because of the hat I also just notice her tentacle heels lol
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>>900930 >another not garbage design that completely mogs hoyo from the community >it's so simple and on the nose as well Man I fucking hate those cunts.
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>>900938 HEY WAIT A MINUTE
>>900915 >>900930 So shifu's whatever-that-is a serafuku too?
>>900915 I even saw the compass and it didn't register
>>900934 that's not concept art retard, that's some redditor's redesign
>>900960 Well the redditor was better
>>900915 I do not see it
>>900938 Imagine having sex with Seed and she start speaking bangboo.
>>900953 No and thats bad, because it took me this long to realize because her bottom half is just literally shifus, the fact that I didnt know that she was a sailor till the fucking W engine speaks volumes about how bad this design is.
>>900954 No one here did. It's that atrocious.
>>900966 Well, her upper half looks nothing like a sailor uniform either.
>>899863 >Best team with SAnby and Trigga. FUCK. Now I don't know if I should skip or not. Like, I give no fucks about Seed, but I really want to build up my teams as much as I can and getting Seed into that one would free Astra up. Granted, I am already thinking of pulling Lucia to free Astra on Yi teams and I already pulled Yuzu to free Astra on Anomaly teams...
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holy fucking shit genshin is gonna give 4 free constellations (mindscapes) a year
>>901003 Isn't it because of their new ascension system?
>>901009 that's if you own a c6 character, instead of getting nothing they give you an item that let's you raise the level cap which is basically some bullshit
>>901003 why though
>>900972 ive seen ONE girl with a shit like this and it was Chitose in super robot wars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRoBYbMyjhk she is supposed to be a Sailor or atleast someone who knows how to drive some sort of craf.
THE SHINING GOLDEN
>>901003 Just give a fucking selector shop for old and dusted characters like HSR, I only installed that shit after ZZZ and the only pre-Fontaine characters I have is Yelan because they send all old characters to the garbage Chronicled wish banner
>>901015 Bwo, people are just going to see that as a whale mode change lol
>>901016 they've made enough money by now I guess idk >>901029 yes I think that's the general sentiment on /gig/ right now lmao
>>901029 The grailing update is for whales unless they forgot to mention some other way to get the uncap item or it counts C6+ 4* lmao, but realistically it shouldn't matter for anything other than Dire Stygian
my id gives me a kiss on my cheek and tells me I'm doing a good job :)
Having dinner with my ID at burger king.
>>901044 This sounds like when fgo introduced servant tokens I stopped playing by then
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>>901044 >c6 4 stars no way in hell bro
>>901003 >actually went to check what is it all about >only for older characters >few characters conveniently missing on it >no archons
>>901003 >only for brick outdated limiteds >one per character
>>901055 Kinda, although you only need NP2 for 120 and most loopers need NP2 to work well in 90++ farming anyways
>>901046 Don't feed your kot that slop
When will they raise zzz character levels to 70?
>>901122 Why would you want that? The resources needed to hit 60 are already barely worth it.
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>>901076 >>901077 well I'm not about to say no to a shenhe or yelan constellation
>>901134 bro... all of the actually useful old characters like kazuha and those are excluded
>>901122 Soon TM
>>901134 No Yelan, Kazoo and Al Gaytham for some reason
>>901134 Yelan, Kazuha, and (somehow) Althaitham aren't on the list.
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>>901003 >only for pre-3.x non-archon characters >doesn't include yelan and kazuha because they actually still have value this some goofy shit
>>901122 hopefully never if it's gonna be like genshin kek >>901147 >>901148 yeah I checked again, no yelan huh, oh well >>901137 bro your uhhh c4 jean?
>>901161 and now I'm bibian for some reason
>>901003 Man, at these moments I can't help but think about genshit being a huge social experiment - how much can you shit down your user base’s throat before they start complaining... And the only case I can really remember - nerfing toillette spin, and it was mainly because of chinks, not global.
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omaigotto
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>>901181 my honest reaction
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out of curiosity is the zzz fag in /svg/ from here
>join the exaltist >50/50 chance of turning into this chad Do you take it?
>>901191 is he wielding an ethereal as a weapon?
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>>901178 >how much can you shit down your user base’s throat before they start complaining the devs said that they want to keep the game running for 20 years or more so I'm sure we'll find out at some point right?
>>901191 Nope. Isn't there a Colonel Lorenz who's gonna show up in 2.2's main story? That's him, isn't it?
>>901178 the complaining was there for a long time, the issue is that they spend money on the game anyway and there is a yuge body of niggercattle spending irrespective of whatever is going on
>>900930 Wow, I really needed the engine to understand that she's supposedly a sailor, I don't know if I'm dumb, or if the design, despite being sexy, is confusing?
>>901191 >join exaltists >turn into chad ethereal >it does not matter as you are now a soulless husk that has joined a collective human hivemind and your body is obliterated because you have wandered into the dead end butchers territory Only good option is to turn into an intelligent construct or perhaps try to be a miasmic priest or whatever
>>901191 depends, what's the other 50/50?
I have to abuse Sexnagi hypercarry until Seed arrives. No balls in this clears, first try. Trigger is running Mountain king because I forgor
>>901191 >Join exaltist >Get killed by Orphie There are worse ways to go I suppose
One day and another day
>>901190 Scalable Vector Graphics are goated! that's the only thing that comes to mind
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>>Nagisa >hot >pairs well with Miyabi and Vivian >will give me more access to different team I think I'm gonna roll for her
>>901191 stage buffs: Increases the base defense of the Wandering Hunter's Breath by 40%. When the Agent launches [Parry Support] or [Dodge Counterattack] to hit the leader enemy , it will apply 1 layer of [Disadvantage] to the enemy. When the Agent's attack hits the enemy, the Agent's sheer damage increases by 7% for each layer of [Disadvantage] the target has. It lasts for 15 seconds and can be stacked up to 5 times. Repeated triggering refreshes the continuous event.
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>>901250 If alice's fat ass bunner wasn't a week fatter we'd be playing the new patch right now...
>>901253 >nagisa whos that
>>901253 >Nagisa WHO
>>901254 >When the Agent launches [Parry Support] or [Dodge Counterattack] Evasive assist finally uncucked?
>>901231 This dude
>>901261 >>901264 I MEANT NAGI
>>901250 No, I rolled Yanagi
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>>901250 nonstop bunsex for four weeks
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>>901250 Apologies, but I'm interested in another bunny.
>>901289 I had her on my mind because I had just played BA
>NVDA dumped Where is corin I'm going to rape her for this.
game sux + powercreep is real
>>901313 >double gay teams deserved
>>901313 >he skipped sanby AND yanagi lolz
>>901328 And I'd do it again skipping seed too
I saw alice in my dream today
>>901313 the choker homo is useless you could probably get a better time with Billy or something
>>899543 Your Gilded Blossom?
>>901306 >imaginary money
are we getting Trigger rerun in 2.2?
>>901400 On seed banner
>>901360 Occupied
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what the heck an el gato id
>>901410 >>901414 then I might grab her wengine. she feels incomplete without it.
>>901419 >me omw to press Q while HP is on cooldown
>>901422 we got el gato ids before Lucia ids...
>>901422 there are just nowhere to run anymore el gato will get you...
>>901313 Use shitty characters, get shitty times
>>901349 Did you tell her that her fatass bunner was killing the game?
>>901494 no, I love her fatass bunner
>>901313 >4 minutes on Harumasa side Damn is he that bad
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balls in-game
>>901550 that's not a good team with him he can't on-field at all, he relies on qingyi to onfield stun
>>901422 safety was just an illusion
>>901550 I always got the impression Asaba is just gigabricked unless you own Qingyi and sweat
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yiddy gacha fixed
Apel's team showcase is here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfgnTRAjqSk
>>901550 Yeah he needs an uber wheelchair to work nowadays Usually chinky nico was enough but not anymore
>>901553 Would Shan't
>>901553 Yid freakcreeping bnuuyball and lips
>>901567 im not pulling her but Ill watch anyway apel and cornzone are the only two english speaking ZZZ creators I endorse, apel puts in so much work with these vids every time
>>901553 they still look meh...
worked on my machine
>>901566 >those pits MUH
>>901566 Do they want to fix her trash outfit?
>>901553 That's me being consumed
>>901186 NOW CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN
What do Yiddy's suction cups feel like
>>901578 I feel you. The thorough showcase and insightful notes are a blast even when I'm not pulling. I'm pulling for Seed tho
I kinda skipped the dialogue here and now I can't interact with this thing anymore. Is this just some flavor texts or is it part of some kind hidden commission like lost item commission back in Hollow Zero?
>>901553 Yid's looks cool, but it looks like something is missing from Lucia's
>>901566 You know, I like gigantic saggers as much as the next guy, but Yidhari's big shapely breasts look pretty good.
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blucia got an update to her walk animation apparently old video for comparison
>>901566 Literal stripper
>>901566 Very nice pit at 0:09
>>901661 Never noticed before but her tail is really cute. Also diabolical hip to waist ratio
>>901661 Those hips are made for bearing triplets
>>901661 less cloth physics?
>>901661 I'm going to say something stupid, but those circles on her cheeks give me the impression that her massive butt is staring back at me.
>>901566 >I don't need a new ice dps >I don't need a new rupture >I have other character I want to save for But...
>>901649 Woah rare Seed ID
best ways to make polys aside from DA, shiyu and hollow zero?
>>901682 Getting a job
>>901682 blowjobs under the queensboro bridge
>>901682 Become a (s)hitman
>>901682 Erotic roleplay and findom
>>901682 donate blood
My Piper has a +4CR Fanged Metal on disk 3 because I can't get a single goddamn sub roll into AP. Not fucking one. I am going insane.
>>901695 <yuzuha would suggest this
>>901682 sell one of your kidneys
>>901695 what about reverse findom
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>>901682 Maybe you should try getting a job.
>>901714 >reverse findom what the hell even is that? a girl paying you to fuck her?
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Thinking about it as the closest and earliest to possibly having Zhao playable is like only November 26th, that is if she is the first stage of the 2.4 banner.
>>901714 Don't click on this
>>901661 Will never understand why some people calling her design shit. She looks better than most S1 design for me.
>>901736 her design is good, the complaints should be from people who believe it doesn't fit in with the rest of the faction/ZZZ's vibe those complaints don't make sense until we see whatever happens in 2.3 and what environments we visit and her story imo
>>901682 Ok but seriously, just do everything you can, all your dailies, any side content you might have missed like battle tower, events, old side commissions, etc. Other than what you mentioned there isn't that much
>>901744 What kind of environment would fit that kind of outfit In urban setting?
>>901736 Her design is great, loved it at first sight. Now Yidhari...
>>901759 the thing about urban settings is that they are insanely broad and flexible. not everything has to be streetwear - go out in some city like NY or tokyo or seoul and you'll see a ton of niggas wearing weird shit. it could be some sort of larper sect of spook shack forum, or some sort of outskirt weirdo farm village that deals with ethereal attacks a lot
Let me roll Seed already...
What a wh*re
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Amount of time Yiddy will force be to cum today 1d100 = 44
Hey now his ball doesn't suck, so a ok A rank sheer ball.
Need Zhao model preload...
>>901736 I don't like her shorts. >>901759 She's not from the city. >>901771 Nigger
>>901566 I've just realized how much ZZZ's gacha reveal fucking slaps, all other gachas compared to that are pretty basic but getting S drop here always feels cool
>>901774 in femtoseconds?
>>901731 a sugar mommy I guess
>>901759 She's an occult LARPer in an /x/ forum, it fits for her.
>>901727 I will never get tired of JC Denton one liners
>>901736 >Orphies: 0.68 holy god roll >(1) Sorry bro, I agree with you 100% but you haven't posted before so I have to disagree with you
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>>901661 Need Lucia thighs wrapped around my head.
>>901774 What about how many times she force milks (You)?
>>901773 im probably skipping her but she has really sexy pits
Here's what CGPT think based on her outfit alone, I didn't mention spook shack or anything else, just her official model: She will fit in= Niche Retail / Vintage Market Vendor Harajuku / Alternative Fashion District Retro Cafe (How???) Nightclub / Themed Club Night
>>901813 >Retro Cafe (How???) Look at how chatgpt or any llm works and you will understand why.
>>901661 Why is your PC stuttering so much?
>>901784 Oh, go on and continue that shitpost then, cunt. Do tell us which most part of S1 has worse design than Lucia.
why we starting these arguments now i'm not in the mood for them. post happys.
>>901566 I just realized that she doesn't have the Spook Shack banners
>>901824 Sanby
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>>901826 We just realized that its still 6 day before the patch
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>>901804 That was my intent but I miss-typed
>>901826 I'll post some hornis instead.
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>>901826 Love these two
>>901827 Does that emblem show up anywhere else or is it just a placeholder?
>>901836 Caesar....
I would appreciate if hoyo could stop releasing prime waifu materials for once so I can save some pulls.
>>901827 octo maid confirmed
>>901843 Victoria Housekeeping
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>>901826 happy is good
>>901828 I gave her that ring btw
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Man these niggas tanky as shit.
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>>901867 I miss bibi
>>901878 she's always in our hearts
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>>898869 I would too
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>>901878 me too
>>901829 Damn, didn't know 1 Sanby is most of our S1 characters.
>>901824 Section 6 sans Soukaku Soldier 11, while I like, is literally Anby with another set of clothes Gay vampire, werewolf, and man with sunglasses
>>901892 >having this much of a shit taste >this is MOST of S1 another tasteless retard can't count
>>901250 No, I rolled for Yanagi C3
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>>901250 I gave Alice an heir to the Thymfield family.
>>900002 The Chinese really loves them. The original Auto Chess was a mod for DOTA 2 created by some Chinese guys.
>>901897 Let me guess, you're a no-tail fox fan because she's meta she has such a fascinating personality
Nibbling piper
I'm doing the Geppetto lost void shit. One of my squad members died (404). Does ether dew drop post-facto revive, or recover hp restore them, or are they just gone for the rest of the run?
>>901916 ah I got my answer, ether dew drop instantly revives them, it says so at the end never used it like that before
>>901911 "Nothing will come out y'know..." Don't worry Piper, I will make you lactate soon.
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>Look at the Genshin update You know what sometimes I'm glad we have a diuffern't new team working on the game because that is actually the worst thing I have ever seen.
>>901916 ether dew drop should revive them I haven't fought geppetto in months
>>901911 >Belle has an old hag fetish she just like me fr fr
Soukaku DPS Shiyu clear against Bomber without trying. Piss easy Shiyu
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>>901923 Genshin is just entering the stage where new players are rare and there are so many characters at this point that it's hard to get people excited about new ones so it becomes more about milking the whales who stick around.
>>901928 based oni fucker. I'll nut to soukaku next in your honor. sidenote - where'd the poster who fucking loves oni go
Since my break is over lemme give you the best 3 design in my opinion. Billy, Piper, Trigger and Lucia(old)
I was about to go insane seeing someone post a yiddy lighter lucy team wondering why they skipped the obvious yidha lycaon team but they posted it now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55qJVenWi3s looks pretty good for a 4 cost team compared to some other videos I've seen
oppai loli when
>>901942 in a mihoyo game? never
>>901928 For the love of god get resonaboo you spent nearly 2 minutes on the mobs
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>>901892 >is literally Anby with another set of clothes >another >set >of >clothes Is that not 90% of the design?
>>901932 Would it hurt them to give newer players some old limiteds when most of them are gigabricks anyways, you can't even redeem multiple copies with that new shit system, Imaginarium theater requires an average of 10 leveled characters of every element and high difficulty Stygian is literally impossible without rolling every new character with sig?
>>901932 Probably should have done it in a diuffern't way since they just makes low spenders and dolphins not even want to spend money now. Also outside of what people think you actually make most of your money from casual spenders and dolphins
>>901958 >you actually make most of your money from casual spenders and dolphins This isn't true or else there wouldn't be such massive fluctuations between individual banner sales.
i think ZZZ is the best gacha in the market rn because its the one with the most work behind, most detail and better made overall
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>>901956 >you can't even redeem multiple copies with that new shit system this shit's so funny to me, like is it REALLY going to hurt your profit margins that much if someone gets a C4 of one character over four C1s? especially when they went out of their way to make sure all of the still good ones don't work with it anyway
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>>901965 If you have actually ever looked at money made and seen those gacha seminars they run on how to scam people out of money the thing they teach or show is that you will make money from the causal end crowd then whales because overall whales are a few people. You will make the most of your money from random guy coming home from work wanting to play something that will casually spend each month because if you get this crowd they add up to way more then a few whales ever could.
>>901923 What happened? I don't keep up with other gachas
>>901937 >stopping mid-chain to extend Yiddy's spin admire Goat ass Finally, some good gameplay.
>>901958 Not really since whales in general make up a HUGE amount of a game's revenue. One guy spending hundreds or even thousand will outmatch hundred of guys spending less than $100. Some games are still up because of whales.
>>901991 The point is to get people into the door as spenders. Once people spend any money at all then they are more likely to spend in general. Hence the $0.99(+1000% DEAL!) packages. The point of welkin and monthly pass isn't to be a reliable revenue source; it's to be a "good deal" that keeps you logging in every day to make use of that deal. Once someone hasn't logged in for 48 hours then the chance they log in ever again drops off a cliff. Same with incentives like BP. They aren't what makes the most money, it's the occasional whale who gets hooked by the traps above who spend infinitely more money than 99.9% of the playerbase.
>>901995 >Add level 100 to take your characters to level 100 >Need to get a type of currency to do so >Only way to do it is rolling copies past M6 >You need M8 in totally to take someone to level 100
>>901923 I wish I shared your optimism, because for me ZZZ being under the same umbrella and GI & HSR just means that we will eventually suffer the same enshitification as them. Oh well, at least our game is actually good.
>>901995 >Jenshin now has a use for getting more than 6 dupes on a character! <it lets you level up to level 95 and 100 but only on 5* and you need 3 C6+ characters for one level 100 >Jenshin now gives you a 5* character every 3 months for weeklies! <only dupes and only old out-of-meta characters and only one redemption allowed on each character
>>901958 The real money comes from people who buy top up bundles whenever they refresh, iirc
>>901991 Also, I don't think you realize just how much of the playerbase doesn't spend any money at all. This shit was figured out almost two decades ago before gacha was even a thing. If monetization was aimed at low spenders then the main spending incentives wouldn't be rolling dupes on characters and w-engines.
>>901954 >clothes are 90% of character design No? Face, figure, hair, personality, weapons, fighting style, etc. are all aspects of character design. For S11 you're almost right, because the rest of her design is just fire Anby.
>>901995 they added a way to get free dupes, but it's only for characters pre-fontaine (i.e. mostly bricks at this point), you can only do it once per character AND they made sure to exclude archons and the few still relevant characters with good constellations like yelan and kazuha from the pool
>>902028 I'm a dolphin? it's over
>>902035 It's a simplified graph, that ">$50" a month is doing a lot of heavy lifting when the true whales spend thousands every month on a single gacha game.
>>901976 Its the best because it made non gacha players play it t. literally never played a single gacha nor hoyo game ever until zzz
>>902028 The biggest bait is always the first or second dupe and the weapon which is statistically cheaper than dupes, even f2p you can expect to get one limited character per patch in ZZZ so C2W1 is dolphin bait at most
>>902028 >Whales are $25 a month This chart is stupid
>>902046 The numbers they use are going by percentile of total players rather than raw amount spent. If anything that should just put into perspective for you how little the average player spends on mobile games. Almost everyone playing these games are f2p.
>>902044 >t. literally never played a single gacha nor hoyo game ever until zzz Same. An now I'm actively playing ZZZ, Wuwa and HSR and seasonally a few others
>>902028 It's funny that a person that spent $100 is considered a "killer whale" back then. But nowadays people even spend more than that. >That one guy that spent $600 for Furina that made his wife mad lol
>>902057 Even back then it wasn't, even back in the Neopets days or other early online clash-of-clans style monetized browser games before mobile was anything other than flip phones it was dominated by a handful of rich autists dumping tens of thousands of dollars into it.
>>902052 If it's going by average my point stands, the bigger chunk of people if the they're getting the most from would be that group of people that just spend whatever a month causally. That's the group of people you want since whales will always fucking be around even in the most shitty of shitty gacha.
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>>902016 >>902024 >try and copy FGO's coin system >literally have a model to copy and realize where to not fuck up and get backlash >somehow fuck it up 10x more and get even more backlash This has to be the most retarded company I have ever seen holy shit At least in FGO dupes are purely flex and don't have half a char's kit behind them, these guys think they can pull the same shit but in a more jewish way
>>902054 Zzz is still the only one i play others just dont look any good or fun
>>902067 Statistics and data prove you wrong, though. A game that wants casual and low spenders focuses on cosmetics. You'd be seeing way more skins and trinkets with microtransactions rather than pushing $200 dupes. Something like Fortnite that targets kids rather than a gacha game. Again, the point of these monthly passes and a casual BP like this is to keep people logging in with the hopes of them spending more money later topping up, not to be a main revenue source.
>>902071 >*40% ice res + 32% max anomaly + 30% shorter stun duration + unfreezable stands in your way*
>>902044 It made me realize that no other gacha game is worth my time.
>>902077 I've always wondered why ZZZ doesn't churn out more skins every patch
>>902074 This is literally every feature they implement. At this point, I think they do it intentionally, just to spite their own players.
>>902065 Yeah, I remember some Clash of Clans player admitted to spending $400 a week back in 2013 to be in the top leaderboards.
>>902086 Because the dev time could be put into modeling a new character which is more profitable.
>>902091 I refuse to believe they can't do both at the same time
>>902044 I quit gacha for a while. It was ZZZ that brought me back. I admit the pandering is why though
>>902098 Why would you hire new devs to sell lemonade on the side of the road when you could have them working inside the kitchen of a restaurant. "Do both at the same time" is what they're doing and probably only to make a subsection of the playerbase happy who demands skins.
>>902074 I'm going to be real in FGO they were going to update the coin shit and make you need NP8, but they got so much backlash and so much backlash and so many death threats they actually had backpedal on it and give out free coins for every servant to make up for it and now you can get 120 at NP1.
>>902098 They could if hoyo was a studio that focused on 1-2 games rather than the infinite amount they seem hellbent on starting to churn out
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>>902106 Yeah because they were retards, not even JP leviathans were willing to go that deep. Main point is though hoyo could have learned from all this on what to not fuck up but they just did a blind run.
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>>902112 If the Japs were sending so many death threats, picture of the devs being skilled and mailing cum jars and blood to the FGO devs for this and that was the Japanese. Makes me wonder what Chinese players will do?
>>902098 A single skin in Genshin (excluding the Diluc skin that costs roughly $45 lol), HSR, and ZZZ cost roughly $30. But it's a one and done purchase. They could either make multiple new skins with the same price or make a singular new character with the hopes they will spend more than $100 to "complete" the character.

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>>902104 You are severely underestimating the desire for skins and how many people buy them. I think the reason they are so slow to churn them out is because they really are that time-consuming to make under ZZZ's extremely high quality standards, in combination with their extremely tight schedule. They don't do ANYTHING half-assed or even 3/4ths-assed when it comes to Agent modeling and animation. They are autistic perfectionists. >reminder that Shifu's skin has unique sound effects to account for her fat pantyhose-clad thighs rubbing together as she walks
>>902132 >$100 The average limited takes 93 rolls or so which is about $200. If you have to go to double pity it's over $300 per character.
>>902104 >>902108 >>902132 How much does it cost to make a skin? How much does hiring 1-2 dudes cost to make 1-2 skins every patch? You're telling me they're not going to make back 100x that from those skins alone even as a one and done deal? There's plenty of games who's whole model is thriving on skins alone
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Sis...
>>902146 uhh, I can see them?
>>902115 If she were like that, then yes, I would try to pick her up. ZZZ really lacks tanned women.
>>902139 >You are severely underestimating the desire for skins and how many people buy them. anon I think MHY has all the internal data to know just how many people are buying skins and if they were so profitable and in demand then you would see them being shit out by now.
>>902104 >>902132 Banners basically release at a fixed rate, though. You can't get more characters out by hiring more 3d artists. You can pump out more skins.
>>902154 Some games are kept alive by skins alone mostly, so I imagine they're not that unprofitable
>>902108 What I find strangest about investing in so many games is that they're all gachas. Like, where's a ZZZ fighting game? A Genshin party game? Some spin-offs to do different things.
>>902156 Which is all the more reason to know they aren't some massive profit margin. If they were then they would have hired more devs on as a team focused on putting out more skins. It's not happening here and it certainly hasn't happened in Genshin or HSR either.
>>902159 Yes, those games mostly not being gacha games where the model is rolling for dupes and if they are then it's of the 2D variety, something like Azur Lane where you can pump out a bunch of PNGs or L2Ds quickly.
>>902161 My guess would be that skins actually cut into banner money because they satisfy the urge to do something special with a character, which otherwise is accomplished with mindscapes.
>>902171 Pretty sure Nikks make a lot of their money from skins.
>>902176 *On the other hand, I also think there are people who would spend on skins but wouldn't spend on mindscapes.
>>902180 ...NIKKE is L2D
Just in case, I saw people saying that the Genshin team made another mistake? But what did they do this time? I don't know Genshin, but I'm curious if there's anything they might want to put in ZZZ.
>>902160 >where's a ZZZ fighting game need this expeditiously
>>902189 Scroll up
>>902176 Well, the argument was that there's huge untapped demand for skins but MHY just isn't meeting it. If this were true then MHY would have already hired on more developers specifically for making skins but that isn't happening which naturally means they aren't making that much money. There's just some portion of the playerbase that demands skins in tandem and MHY releases them occasionally to satisfy them and keep them playing where they might otherwise quit.
>>902183 I'm pretty sure Nikke uses Spine for the 2D-like animations.
>>902189 This mod still sucks ass no matter how many times I see it posted on /v/
>>902189 The "mistake" is just that they're catering more to whales, in actuality f2p players are getting even more free shit than they were before but they aren't happy with 100 level cap mostly being exclusive to spenders.
>>902204 I think it's pretty nice.
>>902190 ZZZ was even promoted at fighting events like EVO, its like they know ZZZ characters would work great in a FG but they don't have the resources or motivation of doing so
>>902198 I think Honkai Impact 3rd is the only game were they constantly release new skins.
>>902202 I just lump it all into "live2D" since that was the first major software but it's similar dev time.
>>902205 I'd say let the whales have their toys Genshit endgame is easy enough with lvl 90 cap complaining about it when they still balance the game around lvl 90 is just sad
>>902183 It is not
Was SEED intended to be a sandrone expy from the start.
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>>902222 Genshit just mogged ZZZ by releasing a robotess maid this patch and now it's also going to release a cute girl with a cool robot who was actually advertised as a cute girl with a cool robot since 5 years ago, I can't...
>>902143 I've been asking this question since genshin, and the only logical explanation I came up with is this: they don't want to release countless of skins for the sake of releasing the skins, they want skin to be part of the game so it has to be introduced in some way and make sense, obviously its not a rule but most of their skins are like this, they appear in events and designed to be introduced during those events. I can't find any other explanation because just making a skin vs new agent is like 1:100 on effort For me personally skins are the only thing I'm ready to spend since its a tangible thing unlike agent copies or to a lesser extend balls
>>902228 >cute girl If I remember right she has doll joins, so she's a doll?
>>902205 Oh, so they're going to expand the characters' level cap, so it would be if ZZZ increased it to level 70 for agents.
>>902245 she has a keyhold behind her too, so yeah, not sure if its a heart is still human kind of thing or just full doll now.
>>902255 for M6 agents*, by rolling additional mindscapes*
>>902241 That's what I kind of guessed too, they should really separate skins from events or exclusively hold onto to those for "premium" skins. The rest of them they should just treat as Ellen's highschool outfit, release and don't look back
>>902245 I don't really play Genshin but Sandrone looks like a girl, maybe she's like Qingyi idk. Ineffa is distinctly a robot with metallic parts, mechanical joints and all that
>>902207 >completely out of place garbage No wonder you like Lucia's design, retard.
>>902260 Wtf, so it would be like for me to have a character at level 70 I would basically have to have her at M7?
>>902245 She's 100% a robot
>>902272 not really you just need to roll M7 for any character to get the material to raise the level cap
>>902272 and by any character, I mean S-rank only
>>902272 It'd be like if you needed one excess dupe on any character to go 60 to 65 and three excess dupes on any character to go 60 to 70
>>902272 its mostly a whale/unlucky old fag compensation mechanic, if you get more dupes over a m6 character, they give you a mat to allow you to uncap any character to lvl 65 and then 70. So for those players playing since 1.0, their c9 qiqi would finally do something beside losing the 50/50
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>>902278 >>902280 Does that include standard S ranks? Like M7 Neko funding my M7 limited S rank?
>>902271 damn holding ID grudges is kind of cringe ngl
>>902290 tbh it's really iffy even for veterans my highest constellation character after playing for almost 6 years is C5 Diluc I could get the rest from the free cons event, but I'd rather get them for my limited characters
>seed really likes flowers and eats them >most powerful ethereal yet is known for her flowers and looking like a flower Is the OG monsterwife Nineveh finally gonna be mentioned in the story???
>>902271 >I like this thing >Miserable niggas on /zzz/ >
>>902296 >>902302 Can't be too bad for anyone who played from the start, still iffy but surely after all these years most of those players would either have a couple on C6 already or a bunch of them close already
>>902271 lmao you think Shifu's default outfit isn't out of place?
>>902290 Yes. For old/launch players that have a lot of the standards at C6 already then it's not a big deal. It mostly affects newish players who probably don't have any chance of ever getting a character to level 100.
>>902319 Starting a gacha that old now has to be miserable
>>902319 >>902329 Only if you are a metafag to begin with I picked up genshin as a side game and honestly Idgaf about end game or whatever I just enjoy the open world gameplay and side quests I'm guessing I might drop it if I run out of stuff to do but i'm taking it at such a glacial pace I'm definitely fine for like a year
>>902228 Who cares
Donkey punching my id.
>>902293 I find being unable to count or remember something longer than 5 minutes cringe ngl
Nice
>>902341 You can keep crying and shitting in our thread all cringelike but that doesn't make you more right or change anything
>>902333 I guess that works, just playing it for the story and occasional new character. Screw filler events, etc
>mibibi is faster than sanby on electric weak bosses hopefully the electric propaganda gets better when I get orphie >>902319 Its all luck >day one player in genshin >at most C2 jean >day one player in zzz >M10 grace >>902349 >our thread
>>902356 I can randomly greentext something in your reply too bro watch this >it's all luck
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>>902361 >randomly
>>902364 <randomly
>>902361 >watch this
<niggers
post bibis
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>>902319 But are Genshin and Hoyo games in general gaining new players? I remember that Genshin got so big that I had friends going to Genshin-only events here in my city.
my SSanby + trigger + caesar team worked fine some months ago but its starting to feel weak on the last shiyu with 1:40 average clear times... you know what that means! its time for ROLLING TRIGGER CINEMAS
<what’s the point of pinktext anyway
>>902374 Tits too big
>>902386 <It's pink and not green
>>902385 Sanby is the only S rank I rolled for and stopped playing entirely before her banner ended... I like A Anby though
>>902349 Whatever you say, faggot.
>>902329 >>902333 It doesn't have to be miserable. I installed both HSR and Genshin after liking ZZZ and in HSR it took me around a half a year before I was running out of content and gacha resources to catch up on characters I missed, at many points I was having more fun in it than I was in ZZZ since there were tons of old story, events and roguelike modes. Ironically, after catching up HSR takes like two days to complete all patch content and then it's just maintenance mode for 6 weeks.
>>902379 No, more and more gacha games release constantly and the market is reaching saturation. When Genshin first released it basically had a monopoly on "high budget 3D gacha game". There's tons now and even more on the way. People only have so much time and money so players naturally diffuse to the game or games that most fulfill what they want.
Please prepare for Belle and my ID's cover of "Ai Dee" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkLJoFp2UAE
I think Astra Yao SUCKS.
>>902386 <posting teenage girls
>>902386 <he doesn't know
my niggas end the thread already so i can ritualpost and not have this shit ass homeless ID
>>902428 Sucks my dee maybe
>>902415 its funny, i've been researching gachas for the past year and the japanese were careful to not regulate heavily in fear of muh numbers going down, now it seems that unless you grandfathered the system like FGO and genshin, companies are better off toning gacha down or skipping it altogether, shame that every shitty western gaas like LoL and even warframe are adopting it in some way shamelessly
>>902440 Your next ID will be worse
>>902440 There's still around 150 posts left bro. Deal with it. Not everyone can have a fuckable id like mine.
>>902415 That's what makes me find it so strange that so many of these announced gachas are so similar to Genshin, in terms of character design, art style, and open-world feel. Most of them don't even really appeal to their own niche. I started ZZZ because of the character design, urban aesthetic, and hack-and-slash gameplay, and even the announced urban gachas are much more Genshin-like.
Damn, my id was Burnice 15 minutes ago but this is even better.
I want to lick her mole
>>902457 okay but in return you must let her lick your balls
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>>902440 what do u think of rokudo
mibabi if she was attractive
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>>902444 I will hand it to FGO somehow fucking how somehow FGO remains the only gacha to really understand the players love for maxing out their favs. people like this whole - investing over time thing, it's why click over time games are popular and FGO has like 5 systems that let you very slightly over time make your favorite character better and doesn't matter if it's literally a garbage ass free character no one would sue ever you can still fully max them out over time and they will get slightly better. I really don't understand how they literally the only gacha who capitalizes on
>>902465 slooop
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I'm confused about the Miyabi 60% vs 80% crit rate thing. I have Miyabi's engine and have two different slot four discs. I thought 80% was a must have but apparently 60% is good for CR? Which of these do I actually want?
>>902461 hotter when nude
>>902448 by the time they're done with their genshin clone, the audience has moved on, and now you're contending with having to take the religious players away, which isn't happening, most genshin players aren't looking for better genshin, these companies really forget they're making games >>902473 FEH exists, and because it was released in a strange post FGO but pre genshin era it retains a ton of the old gacha systems while adopting newer systems as shit changed, while powercreep there is literally YGO levels, you can still grab your shitty 3* and upgrade it to modern standards thanks to supports and inheritance, probably the reason its still around and making decent money
>>902459 Okay but what's the catch?
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>>902448 >in terms of character design, art style Genshin didn't invent anime lol. The reason these games all use anime style is simply because anime style is so popular, in general. They all come from companies that, they themselves, were releasing anime games prior. It's just natural supply and demand. These companies didn't get big enough to put out high budget games like this by chance, they did so because they made money from consumers who wanted to spend money for it. At this point they're just following the formula that works. I also think only Wuwa is really a "Genshin clone". You have other games like Azur Promilia coming out but that's more of a farm simulator like Palworld than a true open world exploration game. Ananta is copying GTA etc.
>>902487 I find it really strange more games don't capitalizes on the whole maxing your favioute no matter how shitty and making them better thing. It seems to keep people playing and around more.
>>902492 They do, that's what NP/mindscape/constellation etc. are for.
>>902495 That's not really the same thing, that's more of a whaling thing. What I'm talking about has nothing to do with that
>>902483 You can do the math yourself. ATK x (CRITDMG + 100%) x CRITRate + ATK x (100%-CRITRate) Do the calculations for both sets of stats, whichever gives you the bigger number is better
>>902448 >in terms of character design, art style This is just because anime style is very popular and in-demand. All these companies were ones already making anime games; it's natural supply and demand that propelled them to the point that they can make high budget ones after previous success.
>>902495 Not to the extent those games do though. If I could make my corn M36 i probably would've at this point even if it cost way too much
>>902498 The entire point of these games is to make money, you realize that right?
I got space for like 2 more things on this drawpile what should they be
>>902495 the problem with the hoyo system is that is has a hard ceiling on what a single character can achieve, you can max a hoyo character but they will forever have the same dupe effects, at most what can change is them being indirectly buffed by a weapon or a new character you have to pull for, but in some old games you can get them new passives, new active skills, upgrade stats to match the current trend etc. and they're all a mix of both pulling for dupes, grinding and clearing more content, its somewhat of a lost art, and I blame a lot on chink and jap time regulations that forced our games into 5 minute slop
>>902506 Yes and also keeping player base retention is part of making more bro. It's actually more important to investors then anything actually that in turn makes you even more money. It's system designed to be slow and forces players to play every day making you look better. Why would you say something retarded?
>>902503 would be way too op considering how many a rank dupes you can get
>>902515 If you don't spend money at all then your retention doesn't keep the servers up. Someone spending $1000 to make a character they like last for 2 years past powercreep is infinitely more valuable.
>>902513 ...Hoyo just announced a very limited system to day to level up characters to 100 and everyone is crying about it.
>>902524 Wasn’t that literally just levels?
>>902521 You have zero understanding of business if you say player retention and metrices don't matter for a game. You need to stop replying every post you make makes you look really retarded now.
>>902528 Yes, but for transformative reactions it's a 40% base damage increase. The difference between 90 and 100 for many characters will actually be massive.
>>902530 Player retention matters, but it's a balance. If you make players that satisfied to grind for free then why would they spend money. If you had so much understanding then what you are demanding would be uniform across the industry at this point but it's not. You DEMAND something but you're not willing to spend money for it which is why it doesn't exist.
>>902531 Yeah, but that's still the same reactions, passives, and skills. Like, literally nothing new for the old characters.
>>902499 >You can do the math yourself. No I can't. I have dyslexia but with numbers. Is this correct?
>>902539 I'm sorry, but I think you're just wrong and talking out you ass. Like having systems in games that design you to need to do things over long periods of times to unlock is literally the whole design around battle passes and such for games that people use. Doing what I talked about it just the same kind of system in the form of a battle pass designed around keeping player retention that also makes players happy as well letting them very slowly over time slightly upgrade the character they really like. The whole point of this is to get players to play as long as possible and keep metrics up cause it equals higher amount of chance they might spend and looks better to investors for money money. It's all in all comes down to the same thing well making players happy that you need balance out as well when doing this stuff to not lose metrics.
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No more oddloop Miyabi
>>902548 Basically yeah
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>>902548 Remember that you also have to keep buffs from both Miyabi & her teammates in mind, since those would be the actual conditions you'd be in during a fight. It's more accurate to go in VR mode, activate everyone's buffs, do a Shimotsuki (main source of meeb's damage) on a lvl. 70 ice-weak enemy, and then compare which does more damage.
>>902564 >talking out of my ass >the entire industry reflects my views Sure thing bud. I've already talked about how BP and monthly passes are just FOMO to keep you logging in. It's "bang for your buck" but they're giving you that value because it's motivation to keep you logged in and that means you might spend to refresh those things in the future(or top up ultimately). If they wanted to go the route of grind then they would just do monthly subscription rather than shit you need to spend 8 hours a day or a year working on. There's a reason gacha have all dropped any MMO elements like that. As some random extra system added on maybe; but why would they do that instead of just selling it to me who would actually spend money to skip the grind?
>>902567 Thank you. >>902571 Thank you as well.
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>>902574 Bull fucking shit. the more grinds you add to a game the better since you will have higher metric. Here's a lost fucking art that people forget, putting stuff like this in games isn't about making happy at all. It's the illusion you add thing that people like so you can get more players and get people to go "Well they do this that cool and nice of them maybe I should play that" or get people's friends. You get the whole "Well I can slowly grind X shitty character to be slightly better, so maybe I should get more copies of them to max them out fully" It's all a trick really, adding more stuff to let you slowly make something better for free with in game stuff get's your to play more for metrics, but the next part is the trick. So let's ay you have these slow ass system to let you max characters, but now you mindscape, Np, or anything isn't maxed out? Well now people are more inclined that they want to maxed out that as well since they don't want to just leave them like that almost there. It's mostly a trick to trick you, you can look to FGO or FEH for this were it will happen really often. It's all a psychological trick into making it look cool and free, but it's to trick you into buying more.
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>>902613 You said I was talking out of my ass but you're in your own delusions that don't reflect anything in reality. "I know better than an entire industry." Go make your own gacha game and see how well it does, then.
Seed is gonna fucking kill me
>>902623 You have been replying to everyone saying you can do no wrong this whole time talking full out your ass just going "Nuh Hoyo knows best they could never do wring" every fucking post. Now I fully lay out how such a system works and psychological how it works and that's all you can say? Fuck off seriously what a meme , actual fucking shill tier
>>902639 >do no wrong Am I talking to a woman or something? I am reflecting reality, not always my own personal opinions on things. I am using reason, you're acting overly emotional and biased about what YOU want and not necessarily what is in the best interests of a company trying to make the most money.
>>902647 I literally gave you the reasoning and you choose to ignore it and because you can't say anything against and just say a bunch nothing again. What a waste of fucking post.
>>902676 Your "reasoning" makes no sense because it's the exact opposite of reality and only makes sense if you're f2p who has no desire to spend money but still wants to have the feeling of infinite progress. You don't make money off of that. Which is exactly why those kinds of MMO elements have been completely removed from gacha games since there's far more people willing to spend to skip that kind of grind. Your reasoning is flawed and doesn't reflect the state of the industry.
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>another Nicole Gyaru mod
>>902692 She looks cute with yellow eyes
>>902692 lifes good
>>902689 I literally gave the reason for I literally layer it fucking out for you >>902613 here and again you ignore it and then you make up your own bullshit and say it's right. Are you fucking trolling? DO you know how fucking huge the number go up waste your time fucking cookie clicker bullshit stuff is right now well talking about the stats of the industry? Why do you make shit up and talk out your ass and pretend to be right? It's like you ignore 90% of peoples posts I have noticed and make your own realty
>>902709 >I literally gave the reason >the more grinds you add to a game the better since you will have higher metric No I've already addressed it, you're just a coping poorfag projecting YOUR desires onto everyone else. Most people do not want more fucking grind or else it would exist in these games when, in reality, gacha games have been doing everything to decrease grind in the last few years. You're delusional as fuck.
>>902689 >infinite progress. >state of the industry. Those are the popular games on the market right now though... Like people love shitty games where they can just keep going up forever and the numbers get bigger. Uma lives on the fact infinite progress is a thing and you can never go max.
>>902720 >gacha games have been doing everything to decrease grind in the last few years. Now I know you must be fucking trolling lamo
>>902722 There's always a balance, I've already said this. A balance of what gets people to spend the most money that is. >>902729 If you ignore all of reality. Why are all these games doing the opposite of what you demand?
>>902735 >There's always a balance, I've already said this You can't keep saying this every time someone proves you wrong, holy fuck you are trolling
>>902692 >still no amillion-labubu mod are modders even trying?
>>902738 ...the proof that exists in your own head? You haven't given any proof, you're only projected your own desires as if they are reality.
have you ever argued with a guy with everything on the line
>>902743 You just ignroe evrythign anyone says everytime and go "NO YOU SAY NOTHING I BE RIGHT NAH UH" How else do want me to take this? Like someone even pointed out Uma is literally designed like this and you said bullshit about balance that had nothing to do with it. How in the fuck did that reply have anything to do with Uma and the fact it's all about just make stats go up of horse you like? >>902757 Post the image for anon.
>>902757 I hope people don't consider their f2p gacha experience "everything on the line".
>>902757 With a BUNCH of mangos in your mouth ☠️ Heh, i call this "Dark Gacha Psychology" 💀💀💀
>>902761 I was staying out this to laugh and watch, but you're actually a massive faggot.
>>902760 Uma is pedatory as shit, have you ever even played the game? Clearly not. If that's what you want as a f2p gacha experience then you haven't played it.
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>>902757 I didn't read a single one of their posts
>>902771 Sure thing, Mr. (1)
>>902776 I mean I said I was just watching?
>>902757 Not online. It's impossible to gauge if they're trolling and I'd rather not waste my time
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>>902760 Do you actually want 30 minute dailies like Uma? Answer me that.
>>902774 >>902782 No shit you moved the goalpost a fucking again? You complained this isn't a market where people do this and make money and make a post complaining that's it's pedatory . Holy fucking shit kill yourself. The whole point was you said this doesn't make money and then you complain about it making money and other thing instead WHAT THE FUCK? I'm trolled aren't I?
3 months away...
hoo boy, guess I'll go back playing comfy farming game.
>>902794 That's some killer artwork
>>902791 >the more grind the better because it's more metrics This is what you said and where does it end and what is the balance with you? All I've done is reflect the current state of the industry and explain why it's going on the path that it is. It doesn't make money because if it did then every gacha game would be like Uma and not shortening their grind and dailies to take as little time as possible with fewer and shorter events.
Can you niggers drop it already. Stop trying to have the last word and go make a thread about Gacha industry standards if you want to keep this up. You're shitting up my slow Zenless thread.
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You know what I think he is trolling, I should not have kept going. I hope you guys had a laugh at me fighting with him.
just dropping here to say all of you are a bunch massive faggots
>>902799 Killer artwork for a killer bunny
>>902805 Don't read any of that
>>902801 This is just the average activity during extended banners Evelyn final week was also like this, if not worse since most of us were back on 4ch where ids were not present Cameraman and wisecuck general once more
We should go back to talking about how cute Lucia is
>>902813 sex with goats is goated
>>902814 why did they use flat 2d textures for the pearls on her ass. looks like shit
>>902813 I wish she had goat eye pupils, probably just me
>>902796 i tried to read the thread and i don't even understand what the argument is about anymore - they're just insulting each other. kinda funny.
>>902815 A lot more work if they're 3D because then they'd need to animate them around the jiggle of the hips/thighs.
>>902813 Her ass is huge and I will roll for her after completely ignoring whatever her numbers and beta gameplay look like. I wanna know what kind of trust event autism she'll have.
Jesus christ
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>>902817 She does have rectangular goat pupils though, they're just a little rounded. Need blenderanon to make a closeup like pic related.
>>902828 I like weird eyes like this, I hope they do more of them.
>>902800 I'm not reading all of this but I will say that Cygames gacha and Blue Archive are totally different beasts because they adapt that kind of grindcore structure. Shard gachas really aren't games to be taken likely And Cygames had fallen out of every market except their home country til UmaEN, but there are a lot of factors going on there (though if you ask anyone they'll echo that Granblue is dogshit right now) I think Blue Archive, Uma, GBF and fucking Limbabs are some of the few Shard-fag games still running globally
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>>902815 They're not pearls, they're flat metal ovals.
>>902831 Her eyes do look really nice.
>>902813 *AHEM* Genshing design
>>902827 >legally not allowed to nerf gacha characters >instead, they just slap an insane modifier on an enemy to prevent anyone from using said character against them
>>902841 damn this genshigger design cute af doe
>>902832 >Blue Archive >grind BA is the one that standardized 5 minute dailies and universal sweeps, there's no grind in the game at all. Uma was actually the last one(coming out in 2021) that still had that kind of grind mentality in gacha games.
>>902827 >Killing every anomaly for the sins of Miyabi
>>902841 Nuh-Uh I never played jenshin I wouldnt know
>>902849 grab her ears and twist them like bike throttles
Zhao needs to be attack or rupture...
>>902827 >I don't use elec or fire now a days Time to dust off my elec team I guess, god damn
>>902864 mibibi is THE anomaly!
>Genshin: Pwease log every day and we'll give you a 5* cons >HSR: dont know, dont care >Nexus: Do I look like I care about pokeshit? I would never think ZZZ would be the only thing that would keep my interest in Mihoyo but here we are
>>902827 what does 56% max anomaly mean?
>>902853 >BA >there's no grind in the game at all There is no gameplay in BA other than grinding to make levels and skill levels bigger at an absolutely glacial pace
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>>902847 I feel like the game is balanced around rolling every character at M0W0. Just rolling all the girls at M0W1 and stuff like this never even crosses my mind and DA scores are twice what is necessary for max rewards.
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I'm sorry to say it so bluntly but I have a rock hard boner because of Alice ...again
>>902883 >grinding to make levels You can't grind that out without spending money since it's completely dependent on stamina which you either have to wait real time or spend money for. You're doing 5 minute dailies no matter what since that's all you can literally do without refreshes.
thoughts on feet?
>>902882 The meter to trigger anomaly requires 56% more buildup to max so your time to fill it to trigger an anomaly or disorder is way longer.
>>902882 The boss takes 56% more anomaly before the anomaly circle fills up.
>>902896 cute feet
>>902873 STUNNER BUNNER
>>902907 Stunner Bunner?!
>>902884 I just hope we never reach a point where 9*'ing DA requires more than a few M0W0s.
>>902914 DA isn't the scary game mode, whatever critical simulation will be is foreboding
>>902920 Do we know if it's still time based or is it more like the survival shiyu back when Caesar came out
>>902903 >>902905 I see, so it's like 156%
>>902892 Very cool, but did you roll for her?
>>902914 Just pray we dont get Genshin levels with new modes that require deep whale teams (M2 R1 at minimum)
>>902914 Who knows, but I feel like if they want to please actual whales they'll put more focus into the tower mode. You have to realize that the introduction of these modes is specifically to please whales so while you are sitting here saying essentially, "I Hope I can get max rewards where I'm at right now." the max rewards will increase in proportion to where people are spending money. Just like all the recent additional rewards added to Genshin for whales, the same thing will happen here within a few years even though you'll technically be getting even more rewards then you're getting now(assuming you're a low spender)
>>902927 I did. even had to pity her after getting S11 spook
>>902928 Does it really matter if "whale modes" only award temporary weapon skins like in Genshin or temporary profile frames like in HSR?
>>902936 Ask Genshin's fandom, they seem to care a lot. The reality is that you're dealing with a playerbase that's 90%+ f2p and they want to have all the rewards that whales get no matter what and will use any manipulation of words to rationalize why.
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>>902920 >>902933 As long as the currency rewards aren't locked behind whale shit, I can cope.
>>902944 Yes, there is hope the new mode won't require you to 100% it for the Polychromes, only a certain threshold like DA, they did it once and both whales were happy with ranking and low-spender only need 6 stars
>>902936 Imaginarium Theater gives primo gems, but guess it's not the whale mode thing.
>>902944 I do not care about spending money in general, I topped up just so I could insure I could get all the characters I want this patch cycle, but as soon as the meta shifts from a theoretical "spend money to get the chars you want and increase your ranking epeen" to "spend money to get all rewards" I'll drop this game faster than a fucking cinderblock even though it has the most sexy girls
I hope the new mode has a banger theme track like the one in the new tower
>collected like 35 pulls a week ago >blew them all on Alice's sig on impulse >collected 40~ today >did it AGAIN >got Weeping Cradle man I'm literally fucking retarded I have a gamba problem I see a number big enough and I can't resist the call then when I'm doing it I think retarded moron superstitious things like "ahhh just another hit... down to 28... or 22... even symmetrical number... ah... just a couple more pulls I have residuals... ahh it's gonna hit for sure it's gotta" real gambling addict shit and then I KEPT GOING after weeping cradle too I have 158 polys and 0 tapes now
>>902964 IT was an attempt to get new players to whale since it requires horizontal investment but it didn't work I guess. SO was intended to get people to whale vertically but it didn't work either I guess, so the level 100 cap is the next attempt to revive revenue.
>>902964 Imaginarium theater isn't a whale mode, it's a "have you been rolling characters of every element for the past five years" check. Stygian onslaught Dire difficulty requires fully packed meta teams for each of its bosses and vertically invested meta teams for the extra difficulty version.
>>902979 Well said it wasn't a whale thing per say, but back when it came out people bitched since a lot of people never invested in more then like a few people due not needing to and artifact grinding being ass.
>>902967 At the very least I hope it makes use of the vast and severely under-utilized ZZZ OST. The fact that Shiyu & DA still only use like 3 different tracks is so dumb when we have so many good tracks to choose from that play once and never again. I'm glad they brought back the Camellia Golden Week music for this Summer event though.
At the same time, I hate how so much of gacha discourse is "ohhh think of the newfags!! THE NEWCUTIES!!!" man fuck them niggas, respectfully, if they didn't pick up our game in the first two years. If they melty when they cant get 60 poly in DA I don't want them in my game who knows what else they'd melty about. Go play league little nigga.
>>902975 This kinda player is the reason why the devilish 75/25 on the ball banner exists.
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>Randomly decide to pull >Alice engine in one 10 pull holy shit first time I've done that in any gacha, I've lost all of my character coin flips since january so I guess I've wasted all of my bad luck is taking a well deserved break
>>902979 >Imaginarium theater isn't a whale mode, it's a "have you been rolling characters of every element for the past five years" check You think they just created a new mode to give out 800 free primos for no reason at all? Abyss required no horizontal investment because people could just roll a few of the most broken characters and clear through almost everything. IT is absolutely there to make people spend money as they rotate it between abyss cycles and it demands you roll for more characters rather than just a few strong ones. Their "compensation" for this was to make abyss give 100 extra primos per cycle(along with 800 from IT). IT was even so easy on its launch that they added a new "harder" mode on the update right after.
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>>902995 >>902975 Two types of players
>>902975 As long as you're not spending money, you should be fine. But if you feel that urge, you should probably bite the bullet and uninstall.
>>902997 Do you consider DA a whale mode because it requires having one more team over Shiyu? Is the new mode also a whale mode since it needs 4 teams?
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>>903012 >Is the new mode also a whale mode since it needs 4 teams? Wait, it does? AIIIEEEEE
>>903008 I was addicted and spending money on crates in TF2 back in like 2010 Never again (I'm fucking broke anyway I couldn't spend money if I wanted to) Also I was just acting reckless cause I'm still coming off that backlog of free polys from the campaign I only just progressed I've still got basically every side mission since 1.3 to do And I could live without SEED, I only really want Zhao (2.3 is a half skip if not full skip, could maybe use the Rupture for Shifu and I only want SEED for feet and electric) I still feel alright.
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>>902827 the devs HATE piper
>>902984 San Z should sell music unlocks and there should just be a custom track toggle in the settings so I can play any in game song during combat. I need to listen to Endless Construction while I thrash UCC or Sword of Corruption while I fight Miasma Priest.
>>903012 They are all modes designed to keep people spending money as the game ages along with powercreep.
>>903030 >best A rank besides Nicole >they hate her Whut?
>>903029 As someone who also has a mild gamba addiction, I get the struggle. I believe you won't slip.
>>903001 I could afford to I have 100 pulls and I'm skipping 2.2
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>>903031 Getting a jukebox function is something I wish for BIGLY. I mean, we already kinda have the functionality and the UI for it in-game with the music player in the Proxy's room. Just need to add more music to it, let it play indefinitely in the background, and let us access it anywhere.
>>903029 look on the bright side anon, you have a guarantee for any future agent you really love to acquire their ball and then never roll balls again as F2P
>>903040 That was before those changes with the increase to 56% anomaly and 40% phys res posted there
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>>903053 Unique item added, Anby's Headphones. Allows you to change the music for a given encounter. If you want Four Armed Sword to play during UCC, you can set it up to do so. If you want Come Alive to play during H0, you can do that too. Soundtrack is now fully customizable.
>>902975 I thought Ben was supposed to be good with money...
>>903063 >Unique item added, Anby's Headphones. Based. But can I get her thong as an in-game collectible as well please?
>>903063 My DA scores would go up 15% if I could properly adjust my fight track
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>>903068 You fell for his tricks. He's actually a terminal gachabrain.
>>903063 I just play my own music anyways. zzz's ost is above average for sure but unfortunately my taste in electronic music is so complex and nuanced it simply doesn't cut it.


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