>>143579 Well, that was a thing

ANON I AM STILL WILLING TO DELETE MY THREAD IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR TORTISE THREAD >>143580 I tried to tell the other anon, that I deleted my thread, but my connection was too slow.

stop breaking the post limit with unnatural witchcraft! >>143561 I would've guessed a pure fighting type like Throh but I can see Scrafty, yeah.

>>143581 >also I knew you guys were gonna accidentally delete both threads I shouldn't have rolled, I guess. I just wanted to give the other anon a chance, since I've made like eight threads recently

>>143549 >Lucky bastard. I don't think I have real face blindness, but I am terrible at remembering them.

What is your Jumper's threshold before they're willing to kill someone? I usually hold my Jumper to a total no-killing rule. But that's mostly because my Jumpers are usually self-inserts and I don't want to write myself as someone who will start killing people left and right the instant they have the means to.

Hey does anyone want me to bring them back anything from Pokemon? I'm going through Infinite Fusion so I'll keep a look out for things while going about my own goals of familiarizing myself with matter/energy conversion tech and pursuing god. >>143583 It's not terrible either. 90 in Attack and both defenses is decent with access to Attack Order and Defend Order. Probably round it out with Drain Punch and something else supportive, Heal Order feels like a waste with the relatively low base HP.

>>143584 see >>143582 I also made quite a few thread, I deleted my thread first but my connection was slow. I apologize

>>143584 Where the hell did that first picture come from? I don't remember saving that. ... I want a tortoise house now though

>>143550 Yes. While Sorcery could be used for multiplying the effect (by using Mudras as a ritual) i recommend for you to instead buy the Verdant Presence perk at the Apprenticeship section, since it is an aura that blesses the ground and would multiply any effort you make.

>>143588 I actually had time to delete my thread and post in your old one before you deleted it

>>143586 If they're capable and willing to kill me I can't make any promises.

>>143586 Jumper generally doesn't kill, but that's because they abhor violence and do their best to avoid getting into fights in general.

>>143591 Was my connection that laggy? To me your thread was still up and you had just posted the roll

>>143589 Tortoise house does sound awesome. Nta but I generally shoot for a scorpion house. Just a small house on a giant scorpion.

>>143594 I guess? I posted my roll, replied to my roll, deleted the thread, then went and posted in your thread that I had already deleted mine, over the course of around forty seconds

>>143595 I've been thinking about getting a giant beetle house from Endless Legend. They sound neat

>>143587 Some Berry-related stuff would be good, especially with the status-curing ones.

>>143589 Man I used to have a bunch of fantasy place floorplans saved but I lost them all, this will make a great start to a new collection. >>143587 wasn't bill working on a human/pokemon fusion device or something? That would be cool

>>143586 why does naruko have the death note?

Do we have any jumps based around surviving in a post apocalyptic world or surviving on a lone island?

>>143600 I think it was from that time everyone was meming on Grok for making a chatbot with a design that looked suspiciously similar to Misa from Death Note. Something like that anyway. I don't remember all the details.

>>143599 >Lost a image collection That sucks anon. I hope you find some good pics to replace it

>>143601 Advance Wars: Days of Ruin is about fighting a war in the post-apocalypse...

>>143604 I think most of them were from RPG books so it shouldn't be hard to rebuild, but there was one I really liked and I can't remember the damn name of the Inn.

>>143598 I'll make sure to get a good variety of seeds and store them digitally once I get a proper PC setup my base. Shouldn't be hard with druidic magic to find and secure what I need. >>143599 Oh, SMT also wanted that, so that's easy peezy. >>143600 That's grok from twitter, the ai. People give grok the Death Note because the design resembles Misa Amane.

>>143603 >>143607 >blonde >blue eyed no wonder he wants to fuck taylor swift if that's his dream girl

>>143599 Safebooru, the booru I get the pictures I use for my OP images, has a floorplan tag. It's only got a hundredish tagged pictures though https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=floorplan

>>143609 Thank you anon, I wish I had more to offer you than this image of a catgirl facetanking.

>>143605 Best game in the series

Any good way if I want to give people Fantasy RPG classes in different settings without needing to have those classes yourself? But I dont want my jumper to be able to do everything his teammates could. I like the idea of creating a super team in a superhero setting based on a Fantasy RPG Party Only Idea I had was Generic Isekai through system sharing.

>>143586 Two paths. >Defensive, potentially hostile >[Insults] Attempt Verbal Deescalation->[threats] Attempt Deescalation through deterrence ->[Weapons drawn] Final Deescalation Warning->[actively attacking]->If bandit/criminal and or too stupid to run away/back off despite repeated warnings, lethal, if possibly useful, non-lethal. >Hostile confirmed or understood to be generally hostile as a group for whatever reason >[I attack first] Lethal->[Two possible branches: I don't care about making them feel it: I give them clean death, unless they surrender, I accept those and let them live. I do care about making them feel it: Lethal and ironic, unless they have use, then whatever I'm going to use them for, possibly spare them in certain circumstances, if I feel like it.]

>>143612 Vain-something the dragon had a system sharing perk that worked by literally just telling people the system existed

>>143611 I didn't play it as much as the others but it definitely had my favorite story. Except that one map against Waylon. Fuck that map.

>>143586 Generally, it's a matter of: >I can see only one of us is leaving here alive. Therefore, it will be me. Or: >If I let you live, you'll never stop doing this thing I want to stop you from doing. Fairly classic "alright, no more holding back" vibes. Of course, those justifications become obsolete the moment options like sealing or temporal/dimensional banishment are on the table, so then it becomes: >Do I want to finish this now, or make it someone else's problem when you eventually find your way back here?

>>143597 I just kinda got hooked on the idea from playing ark with one of the dlc creatures the mega scorpion. Its amazing. I love my big skittery murder bug.

>>143617 Where did you eventually get your giant scorpion from anyways? Last I heard about your giant scorpion house was back in 2024 when I suggested the scarabs from Endless Legend and a Strutter from Dinotopia

>>143618 Its been a bit but iirc I originally got it in overlord and imported it in a few places but I honestly dont remember most of it.

Is the thread dead?

>>143620 Nah, just people being busy probably. It's near the end of the work day.

>New Elysia skin - cupid magical girl elyisa >New Kiana Ba Dump! skin - Winter Queen edition We stay winning >>143586 I genuinely don't know. I guess it depends on the severity of the issue and the jumpers current abilities.

>You can have 'flashbacks' to important times in your bodies' previous life, as long as you have a past in that world (no Drop-Ins). These aren't just memories but ways that you can further customize your own history in the worlds you find yourself in, as you are able to have some limited control over the actions the past 'you' took. Maybe you decided to seduce that lonely housewife and now you're fuckbuddies in the present? would you guys be interested in a perk like that

>>143623 Yes, what jump?

>>143623 would you have access to jumper stuff or only stuff in your build? Like Say I am a Harry Potter and then jump this jump where I make a build and take this perk, when flashbacking into the past of the background before the jump starts, would I have access to Harry Potter magic or my warehouse?

>>143625 I haven't decided if I am really going to do it yet, so not to disappoint people I'm not gonna announce it. Just jotting down some notes. >>143627 That...is an excellent question, honestly. I can see cases for both sides. On one hand, it might make it an OTB perk. On the other, it does open up a lot of value and it is a capstone.

>>143623 Only if it also gave at least some small control over what you were in that past life. I find the idea of past lives as someone I really wouldn't want to be, to be rather disturbing.

>>143629 well it would be influenced by your background, obviously I guess it depends on how you decide your body acted before you jumped that setting, assuming you aren't a drop-in. Obviously unless your benefactor hates you or you take a drawback you won't automatically be a rapist or a murderer.

>>143623 I guess? Personally I just don't subscribe to the whole every jump is you possessing someone thing, I feel like it's mostly up to you the writer

>>143623 What about a perk that allows you to "start" at any point in your life before the jump actually starts? The whole flashback thing seems kinda weird.

>>143632 Without changing the usual end point of the jump, mind.

>>143491 Late, but it sounds like a fun chainbutt. Will make being a superhero a bit weirder. Would be best if I can control when it streams instead of 24/7. That way I don't accidentally fix any other heroes.

>>143628 >That...is an excellent question, honestly. I can see cases for both sides. On one hand, it might make it an OTB perk. On the other, it does open up a lot of value and it is a capstone. voicing my own preference, where i tend to like thematic consistency, I personally would probably enjoy it more if you would be restricted in using things that are plausible for the background, like no out of setting powers unless they would make sense to exist in setting, like if you were in a mundane jump you could use things like charisma perk, but not outright super powers, but if you jumped DC for example you could use super powers from earlier jumps, and perhaps even cement them this way as something your jumper always had in the background.

>>143586 My jumper is very kill prone due to being a pragmatist. Most villains just need to die. The women need to be taught the error of their ways by finding them a husband to keep them pregnant.

>>143629 >>143630 Actually that gives me an idea for a perk for something else. Multiple-Choice Past, as long as you aren't dropping in you can customize to some extent your past in the world so far. >>143631 Well your body had to come from somewhere, and you explicitly had memories beforehand unless you are a Drop-In. >>143632 It's due to how the story works. You have flashbacks to the past quite frequently that can impact your relationships in the present.

>>143630 Sorry, I'm super burned out today and misread that as a previous life in the sense of a prior incarnation, like the Asura to your Naruto. Now that I understand what you're actually talking about I like the idea.

>>143601 Muppet Treasure Island has a drawback to be stuck on the island for a decade. You have talking tiki heads and a tribe of Muppet pig men.

>>143637 Yea, but who says your body has to be stolen? I feel like it's not crazy to think you could've just been slotted in like you were always there or your benefactor just made you a body

>>143640 The perk isn't saying it is stolen, just that you now might not have made the same moves that you in the past might have originally. >>143638 It's cool, happens to me a lot. >>143635 Yeah, that seems fair. Thanks anon.

>>143623 So this is just a personal retcon perk? I can see that becoming interesting. How will it change the present if you spam a perk really fast to butterfly effect the family dynamics?

>>143642 fanwank

>>143643 >spamming gender bending, harem and incest perks into every flashback. >no way this could backfire

>>143644 That's how you enter a jump with a harem waiting for you. Stable time loop!

>>143644 >>143645 >enter jump >major crisis/problem already over >just need to flashback to how you solved it before you even arrived

>>143645 >Wait, why is my family all incestous women with me as the only man? >Just weird that it keeps happening >Mom: don't you remember the day this started >Flashback music starts

>>143623 Are you making a Family Guy jump?

>>143623 I am definitely going to use this for fetish reasons.

>>143647 >guy wakes up surrounded by naked family in bed >record scratch >freeze frame >narrator: "You're probably wondering how I got here.."

Life is fustrating

>>143648 Jesus no. I don't hate myself nearly enough to do that. >>143649 It's for a porn game (and thus a QQ jump) so I would definitely encourage it. There's a reason fucking a housewife is the default example.

>>143651 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThDwS79HPhs

>>143648 >>143648 It is impossible. Family guy is just a compilation of cutaway gags with no plot.

>>143586 When the target's evil has no reason, or when the jumper lacks the power to safely contain him.

>>143651 Maybe if you weren't such a punk ass busta it wouldn't be.

Is there a threshold at which point a character is too evil to be redeemed? If so, do villain jumpers have a threshold at which point a character is too good to be made evil?

>>143657 >Is there a threshold at which point a character is too evil to be redeemed? Depends on your perks? You can outright redeem anyone with the right build in the Tome of Radiance jump

>>143657 I assume anyone with a fulfilling life is too good to be made evil. Stable life, happy family, having a lover, etc. As for redeeming you can always use mind control to completely reprogram a person.

>>143657 >Is there a threshold at which point a character is too evil to be redeemed? yeah it depends on how graphic what they do is and how beloved the character they do it to is. Like its easy to redeem someone who destroyed an inhabited planet from far away without actually showing any deaths, but its really hard to redeem someone who molested a child the audience knows for example.

>>143652 What's the name of the game? Is it a weg?

>>143659 >Stable life, happy family, having a lover Those can be dismantled with a sufficient application of violence tho

>>143652 I desire the name of this game.

>>143663 Was it Darkseid or Thanos that followed that random guy around and fucked him over every birthday?

>>143657 Depends on a given setting's definitions of good and evil and your own interpretation of multiversal metaphysical morality, really. Many worlds hold that angels can fall, but demons can't rise. Others don't believe in good or evil to begin with. Still others will forgive anything if it isn't boring or banal, so the guy with the doomsday device is more redeemable than the wife-beater. There's others where things are mostly the same as in our world (i.e. most people believe good and evil exist but will argue for thousands of years about the details), and other places where it's more about what you are than who you are, worlds where nobody is good but not everyone is evil, and so on.

Chainbutt, you get a chain, but you must start in the World of Darkness (Either Old or New is fine). Which splat do you pick for your first jump?

How viable is it to be a regular ass human, albeit a very well trained one, in Dakrstalkers? I used to love the series when I was a wee child but all my memories of it are ash now.

>>143665 Thanos, though Darkseid does have the Omega Sanction which is similar enough in the broad strokes.

>>143665 Darkseid. Thanos is the guy that has a helicopter with his name on it >>143667 NWoD Mortals. I'm perfectly willing to deal with spirit political bullshit if it means getting to be a Purified.

>>143668 B.B. Hood is basically a normal girl with GUNS and does well enough.

>>143668 B.B. Hood manages well enough and Felecia isn't actually that ridiculous in terms of threat even when she's trying. As long as you're not trying to fight one of the big names or get thrown into the deep end in Makai you should be fine.

>>143658 The joker?

>>143667 OWoD mortals as an occultist, second jump will be mage where lols at Paradox immunity will be had.

>>143663 That will only make a broken man, not an evil one.

>>143669 Ye. >>143670 Turns out it was Thanos.

>>143667 Aassuming I dont go archmage right off the bat I either hit the owod mage jump or the dark ages jump. Both seem fun.

>>143675 Doesn't take too much to make the first the second.

>>143667 Years of assessments have told me I would most likely be a NWoD Changeling. As you can imagine, this is a terrible fate to suffer, but it is one of the better ones for laying low, since I'm explicitly supposed to HIDE from the Gentry and the Huntsmen (before you mention the Summer Court, all the quizzes said I'd be Autumn or Winter). NWoD Mortals would also be relatively open to me not picking fights. Arguably, I could also go to Beast: the Primordial and just hang out with other supernaturals to Family Dinner, but that requires me to both go to Beast AND become an extrovert. So, no.

>>143661 >>143664 Yes, it's a weg. It's Now & Then, but don't get your hopes up. While I have some ideas now, I dunno if I'll be able to get enough stuff to make a full jump out of it. Or if I'll have the time.

>>143673 The Joker's morally opposed to Batman. If Batman's a villain the Joker would end up a hero, as demonstrated by Earth 3 and Earth 23

Going to sleep. Good night guys.

>>143682 Sleep tight.

>>143680 You can do it! I believe in the me that believes in you! >>143682 G'night Spazz.

>>143681 >Batman becomes batkek >Joker won't stand for this tomfoolery and becomes sane out of spite

Reminder that Harley isn't that good of a psychologist considering she slept her way into getting that degree.

>>143667 OWoD Dark Ages or Vampire seemed like it'd be a decent start but Dark Ages has the problem of my build being Earthbound Archduke with a location Reliquary so the Torment will go bugfuck on the first jump.

>>143686 that is only canon to the DCAU, in others she's portrayed as technically competent

>Finally read the Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde >There's no split personality stuff. Dr Jekyll just drinks a potion to turn into a malformed midget so he can fuck with people, starts transforming automatically after drinking it too much, tries going cold turkey, gives into his addiction, and then kills himself when he can't make his potion any more

>>143668 The power level perk is separate to most races.

>>143689 Jekyll essentially gets the irl ability of posting on an anonymous account online, he can say what he wants and live out any sick fantasy he desires without any worry in regards to his personal reputation.

>>143680 Was that a loli game? I feel like I've seen you talking about it before.

>>143687 Whats the appeal of being a Demon?

>>143680 >No Incest >Honey Select Not very interested, but best of luck

>>143691 He also has the benefit of having a rich friend of good social standing to bail him out of trouble. Said friend being literally himself. >>143693 NTA, but OWoD Demons have some neat shit. Their main gimmick is having a fundamental knowledge of how existence was made which lets them alter existence itself, but they also have higher stat caps than most species and have a very freeform ability to make pacts with people to empower or change them. That last one lets them do things like push humans to the peak of human physical capabilities, to reshape them into being hot, and to grant them lesser versions of any powers the demon itself has

>>143693 I read the books and liked the Angel lore.

I desire a hunter the parenting Gaunlet in the same vein as the mortal heroes gauntlet and am tossing some ideas for it around. Things like basing some destinies on the things kittens described to D in the cooking bit, or having an invasion of exalts as a drawback in a mirror to the werewolf one in Mortals. Should I include other races, like being an evil vampire wizard or a mummy like people think D is, or stick to humans and mostly human things, like ghouls?

>>143684 I'll try. >>143692 Nah, psuedo-incest post-apocalypse. You're in a zombie apocalypse with your adopted daughter. >>143694 Understandable. I tend to like HS stuff but I get it isn't for everyone.

>>143689 >>143691 >>143695 I never really got how pop culture developed him into proto hulk. I guess media literacy was shit even back then too unless they just didn't want to go with the "repressed Victorian scientist goes hog wild after inventing magical Coors light" angle.

>>143697 I don't think Exalts in wod are anywhere near the werewolf in creation drawback thing. Even just the Exalted vs versions is going to skullfuck you casually.

>>143694 if you have any WEGs you'd want to be jumps let me know, might check them out. Since you seem into incest we probably have similar-ish tastes.

>>143697 Other races(splats) should be fine, as long as they are appropriately priced. Methuselah/Antideluvian and Archmage should NOT be options. Starting mage should be fine, if expensive. Perhaps instead of Exalts in WoD, an influx of Creation Fae?

>>143697 I know basically nothing about WoD or Hunter the Parenting but I wish you good luck with the jump.

>>143702 bro are you sure you understood what he was talking about?

>>143700 That’s fair. Exalted versus should probably be a +1000 destiny. >>143702 I will not offer more raw power than is shown on screen. So like, Kevin is going to be top of the line, unless we see his sire on screen at some point. Fae works. >>143703 Me neither! This is gonna suck.

>>143704 My brain stopped working as soon as i left school, so probably not?

>>143701 Man, I have an entire list, but the most interesting WEG I would like to made into a jump is Sexbot.I also think Heart Problems is pretty good

>>143688 And yet the DCAU version is superior to the new Harley they have been pushing as punk goth clown.

>>143667 Either Sundered World as a Pangaean (of the Primordial Waters...yes, I'd be Tiamat of Leviathan the Tempest) or Dominion of Lust, or OWoD The Dark Medieval as a True Fae.

>>143623 Is this for the movie Butterfly Effect?

>>143705 Kevin is not the top of the line shown, there's a Werewolf in an episode.

>>143651 This is true.

So that's where you guys were! I spent four hours wondering why the other thread didn't update. >>143623 I do not comprehend. This sound like xianxia.

Is there anywhere that I can get a custom shaped building?

>>143657 A better question is if there are characters too evil for villain jumpers to want to work with them. >>143667 oWoD Mummy. Pretty much ontologically good or close to it, determined to save people, have extremely potent immortality, and the only faction you can count on to have your back when the going gets rough. I'd have said woof just because I like them the most out of all the splats, but the Garou are the biggest retards in existence and I simply don't want to chance inheriting that retardation or having to tardwrangle those dumb motherfuckers.

>>143711 No, anon. It's a porn game. >>143714 Don't worry about it.

>>143717 Xianxia porn game?

>>143718 NTA, but where are you finding Xianxia porn

>>143667 I like how in your ignorance you forgot to specify playable splat because nWoD goes out of it's way to develop splat systems for enemy NPCs too, so I can just pick being a rank 10 Supernal deity or something.

>>143705 >Me neither! Then why are you making it?

>>143718 No, just western stuff. >>143715 >pic Wouldn't it be a huge pain in the ass to carry trays of food/drinks to the 2nd floor?

>>143720 Congratulations! You've won the imagination game, Generic!

>>143667 Do we have a jump for Sin-Eaters? They basically just sit around and party and maybe help a ghost pass on.

>>143724 I don't think we do.

I don't know how to handle having harem perks while also avoiding character bloat. Someone help, my wives are multiplying.

>>143722 >Wouldn't it be a huge pain in the ass to carry trays of food/drinks to the 2nd floor? Only until you get used to climbing stairs while holding trays of food

>>143726 Vore your wives so they won't be characters anymore

>>143720 >so I can just pick being a rank 10 Supernal deity You basically aren't even sentient at that point.

>>143719 NTA but I find a bunch on pixiv.

>>143719 >These aren't just memories but ways that you can further customize your own history in the worlds you find yourself in, as you are able to have some limited control over the actions the past 'you' took Sounds weirdly xianxia. If I squint.

>>143728 Khronos, no

>>143726 You do know that Rex only has 3 wives right? But to answer your question: Man the fuck up Samurai.

>>143729 Good. Being sentient in the nWoD is a mistake.

>>143701 NTA, but maybe Snow Daze, or Insexual Awakening? The problem with making WEG Jumps is that almost all of them are either eternal WIPs (Mind Society, God Life, etc.) Abandoned (Such a Sharp Pain, Ecchi Sensei) Just a completely normal world other than the incestual harem of the MC and so hard to come up with ideas for (Monkey Business, Parental Love) Or all of the above (Radiant). Although, Imperial Chronicles might make for a good Jump if it gets finished. The guy making it did finish his first game, so there's some hope for this one.

>>143726 Dodgeball has perks you need.

>>143735 Or are just lewd parodies of existing works.

>>143737 Like Takeis Journey!

>>143735 >Eternal wip That reminds me, I need to go to TFGamesite and see if Type One Errors has updated in the last decade

>>143725 Then nWoD Mummy. You're basically unkillable and can easily get out of any obligations with a 400cp perk.

>>143735 >ecchi sensei I miss it, bros. But yeah, I get it. I've made WEG jumps before that run of the gamut of unfinished to finished to abandoned (mostly). Imperial Chronicles is definitely on my radar but I prefer to wait for now. >>143738 Yeah, Takei's got updated yesterday. Need to check it out, been a few updates since I played. Love, Corruption, & Bimbos also got an update and that would translate well to a jump.

>>143740 If you just wanna be immortal, try being a Purified in the World of Darkness - Mortals jump. They're even more immortal than a Mummy is. Like, you need to kill their body, track down their mind/soul in the Shadow Realm and forcefully drain them of their Essence just to possibly be able to kill them permanently.

>>143742 Doesn't that go away post jump?

>>143742 >They're even more immortal than a Mummy is. What? No they're not.

>>143743 It has that standard turned into a once a jump one-up until post-spark ruling, unfortunately.

>>143743 Also the fact that they CAN die permanently without being eaten by some kind of cosmic devourer means they're automatically less immortal than the Rite of Return's users. There's an entire fucking section about how the Rite interacts with time paradoxes (the mummy simply does not care and shows up wherever, and is immune to grandfather paradoxes)

>>143742 Is that Old or New? Because one is significantly less fucked to live in, even as a rotting corpse.

I'm going to try to finish my update by Halloween, it's not a halloween themed jump but it will at least give me a good target to help motivate me.

>>143746 Honestly, a purified that's erased by a time paradox would likely just reform eventually anyways? Purified count as high level spirits and those fuckers can just ignore shit like that anyways. >>143747 Purified are a NWoD thing, yeah

>Jaguar shapeshifting pelts are a thing Mages can make. Can I make a Garou shapeshifting pelt.

>>143750 If you want Wyrm corruption up your anus, sure. That's the Stolen Moons and Skin Dancers' whole thing.

>>143750 Possibly, but here's a better question: who would even WANT to be a Garou?

>>143752 Furries. Garou unironically fuck dogs.

>>143750 >Can I make a Garou shapeshifting pelt. There's literally a perk for making those in the Werewolf the Apocalypse jump

>>143753 Mages can make far superior magical fursuits. Given the option between an actual magical fursuit and being a Garou, not even a furry would choose Garou.

>>143752 Their kinfolk mostly. Being a kinfolk who never experiences their First Change suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

>>143755 I can attest to this.

>>143751 I see. I'll have to look into that more. >>143752 I wouldn't myself, but having minions use em against werewolves might be funny. >>143754 Thats cool.

>>143753 Ah, yes. Every furry fucks dogs. It's why furries still exist, after all. Every convention goer is given a free dog at entrance and the government and police do absolutely fucking nothing because they are dog fuckers too.

>>143726 A companion limit is actually appropriate, in the best case way lower than 8 since you want to keep rook for important characters in settings you visit to interact with.

>>143760 Most people don't like to hear it, but the limits of Quicksilver's Jumpchain were in many cases based and additive to the experience.

NWoD question. If I'm a Mage and I sell magical fursuits that are hyper realistic and have full tactile feedback, would the excuse of "advanced technology" be enough to avoid Paradox? How hard would I have to hype up the technological innovations in the fursuits to make them believable enough that Paradox is avoided?

>>143759 Well, I guess if you wanna be technical the term would be "people into bestiality' but I couldn't think of a snappy single word for that.

>>143721 I am the change I wish to see in the world.

>>143717 What type of porn game? The vary wildly and some are much better than others.

Chainbutt you suffer from reverse fertility/virility. Any time you have sex with a woman you will become pregnant while every time you have sex with a man they become pregnant. Contraceptives won't work and abortion is off limits.

>>143726 Moderation is key. If I have the option I will take all, but know I must not. Limit yourself to one new companion per jump.

>>143765 I said >>143680 it was a WEG.

>>143726 Love your wives

What are some neat things you have used fanfic toggles to do to jumps in your chain?

>>143766 A solo no sex or romance chain would be a bit dull but there's still adventure and loot to be had.

>>143744 Okay so I don't know if it was retconned in 2e, but in 1e Mummy The Curse bringing yourself back from the dead involves literally erasing your memories, with their driving narrative being trying to regain a human morality to recover their memories Also, at least a Purified doesn't have to risk being permanently corrupted into a mindless monster if they try to resurrect themselves after their bodies are destroyed

>>143748 Looking forward to it! But I've also been meaning to ask when I next saw you in thread, for when you get to Keychain of Creation jump, might I suggest a fanart Marika OC companion? She be a perfect fit as a Solar. And/or maybe Miquella. Is it still oyakodon if the egg is a trap?

>Atlyss had an update >they added mining and a smithing npc Man, when the game is complete the jump is gonna have some really nice stuff in it I think

>>143763 Zoophiles, anon.

>>143762 The full tactile feedback part might be a bit difficult to sell without you doing some kind of invasive surgery, but furries already have hyper realistic animatronic fursuits and thought powered animatronic ears and tails have been a thing for ages

>>143762 Depends on what Arcana you use to make them and whether or not you've got them at high enough dots to offset the Paradox in some manner. Chronicles isn't oWoD and there are a /lot/ of ways to ignore Paradox from flagrant magic usage there even using admittedly basic applications of magic if you know what you're doing and have the right Arcana for it. Making a 'Paradox sink' to eat the cost for you is a lot easier than just repeatedly tweaking things until it's allowed or trying to force them into believability. >>143766 A chain is a chai- >while every time you have sex with a man they become pregnant. Say no more.

Feeling like going on a power trip next chain to mog the various weaklings of the future worlds my jumper will go to, any suggestions for fun overpowered power sets/perks to pick up to facilitate this?

>>143772 I don't dispute that, I'm just saying in terms of NOT DYING the Arisen are objectively better than the Purified. Yes, there are other downsides but the gameline goes out of it's way to stress that the ability to NOT DIE of Mummy is at the level where the only thing that can contest it is the intervention of what is probably a rank 10-level entity. Also Apotheosis and Ascent are things.

>>143773 I'll note down Marika as a potential model to base a Solar OC off, as for Miquella. . . we'll see how things turn out.

>>143777 >Say no more. Who's the first to become boipreggers in your new chain?

>>143781 you

>>143778 The Culture: Minds

>>143778 Psycho's One Punch Man jump has a Saitama perk.

>>143781 Going down the list: >Colin >Deku >Link (rabbit form) >various Pokeboys >every male in Les Legendaires (when the jump is done) >Sora >every male Mobian

>>143779 >intervention of what is probably a rank 10-level entity Yes, and the 1e sourcebook establishes that the end result of having your mortal remains shoved in concrete can be you being turned into an entirely mindless monster if you roll poorly, and will definitely result in a loss of a large chunk of your already near nonexisting memories and personality. I much prefer a Purified's immortality, which doesn't suffer from a forced cycle of memory loss, enslavement, and personality drift before an inevitable death after anywhere from half a year to like five years depending on how well you obey a specific moral code.

>>143787 Strange that you're ignoring Puro but choosing Colin.

>>143789 They're a package deal in the jump. Implicitly both are getting pregged.

>>143787 Very disappointed that Asriel isn't in that list.

>>143791 Asriel is still technically a child, isn't he?

>>143766 What about gay sex? If I, a woman, have sex with another woman, who gets pregnant? I would assume futa depends on which hole I’m using.

>>143791 Most people aren't into necrophilia

>>143794 Does True Ressurectioning someone count as necrophilia?

>>143791 It's not an exhaustive list. Just some choice picks off the top of my head. Asriel would definitely be at or near the top if I were making a full list. Though I'd need to find a reliable method to recreate his soul first which could take several jumps to places I'd rather avoid, do it could take a while. >>143792 He's several centuries old if you count however many hundreds of resets he's gone through.

>>143793 >If I, a woman, have sex with another woman, who gets pregnant? The prompt literally says you get pregnant if you have sex with a woman. >futa depends on which hole I'm using No, it depends on who you're fucking. If you fuck a woman, you get pregnant. If you fuck a man, they get pregnant

>>143733 >only has 3 wives How pathetic. That's practically monogamy. I really hope you guys are better than this

>>143791 What's it called when you fuck a plant

>>143800 >What's it called when you fuck a plant Googling your post says it's Dendrophilia

>>143796 He reforms into the body of a child when not under SOUL power. Also, mental age=/=chronological age.

>>143788 I respect that there are upsides, I'm literally just saying that the Arisen are OBJECTIVELY BETTER AT STAYING ALIVE simply because the Purified are much easier for someone not named Ammut to actually end the permanent and meaningful existence of. Yes, getting concrete'd sucks. But you also have literally infinite respawn retries and there are ways (relics, mostly) to get your memories back. >enslavement Again, while true, Ascent and Apotheosis. They are things. Things that are functionally worthless to any Jumper who survives going to nWoD unless you rule the Judges can reach across the chain, but they are options.

>>143800 Dendrophilia or maybe Phytophilia. >>143802 If we're going by chronological age, then he's outright over a century old at minimum.

>>143798 NTA but long term plan is to have a harem that is an entire faction, potentially an entire civilization (or several). But the harem might start smaller or wait for a long while before getting started depending on the plans for the chain.

This seems more like a decision for the horny thread.

>>143804 MENTAL age, Argent.

>>143806 Oh yeah, I remember that World Tree novel now. Damn.

I only have four wives so far

>>143791 Unfortunately, many characters are not as attractive in canon as they are in fanon.

>>143810 That's what beauty perks are for.

>>143807 I get what you meant now, yeah. Still, he's far more mature than any actual child would be - which is a consequence of how the resets have shaped him. There's also like, the fact that depending on how he gets revived, he might not be connected to his parents anymore and might not physically age any longer. Unless that was some highly elaborate fanon that the entire community simply ran with where Monster kids only grow up by drawing from their own parents lifeforce.

>>143803 >I respect that there are upsides, I'm literally just saying that the Arisen are OBJECTIVELY BETTER AT STAYING ALIVE simply because the Purified are much easier for someone not named Ammut to actually end the permanent and meaningful existence of. And I disagree with you on that, since identity death is literally built into being a mummy. ... It also still requires intervention of powerful beings to permanently kill a purified, and forcefully draining a purified of it's last point of essence isn't exactly easy, since the Chi merit is actually added directly to your ability to resist supernatural powers

>>143809 Hope it's because of some external factors and not an indicator of your failure. >>143805 Now we're talking.

>>143810 Fortunately, we play a single-player imagination game where such things can be freely adjusted for individual player satisfaction.

>>143812 I have honestly no idea about the "life force tie" thing, but we don't really have much in the way of Boss Monsters anyhow. >>143815 Also the freeform fanfic toggle in Psycho's Undertale.

>>143814 I've only been charmed by four women by jump 7

>>143797 No, the prompt says reverse fertility. If a man fucks a woman, the man gets pregnant. So what happens when you have sex where no one would normally get pregnant?

>>143818 The prompt literally states that if you fuck a guy, THEY get pregnant.

>>143818 >So what happens when you have sex where no one would normally get pregnant? Clearly everyone gets pregnant.

>>143800 Nahida

>>143738 I'd rather forget that exists. >>143701 Nta, but do step-sisters count? Closest I can think of is Once In A Lifetime as a maybe. Though MIST has a patch to make Lily your sister if you are fine with that.

>>143766 What happens if you fuck a futa?

>>143823 Obviously you both get pregnant.

>>143823 The universe gets pregnant. This generates more ghosts.

>>143823 Three people get pregnant

>>143766 What if you fuck someone who has an ovipositor and they attempt to lay eggs in you?

>>143827 They get eggs.

>>143766 What if you cum on a Split Gill Fungus (which has over 23,000 sexes)?

>>143792 that has never stopped people here before

>>143810 There are perks for that. >>143822 bro I already made a Once in a Lifetime jump

>>143798 Jumper has: >one wife - amoral scheming sorceress >one consort - conquering warrior queen >one concubine - submissive masochist scientist

>>143773 I never understood why people turn into simps, why not just pump and dump then wank about it latter?

>>143831 >bro I already made a Once in a Lifetime jump Whoops. Sorry about that.

I was gonna ask if there was a perk to detect virginity but remembered Demograph from generic Creepypasta does that

>>143778 Flow, or Record of A Fallen Vampire. Those two jumps are basically just made solely for that to happen. Flow has an infinite revival super power, time stop, and both forwards and backwards time travel available for what's basically free. Record has a perks that grant you lightspeed and immunity to magic, and another gives you similar speed and strength to match, alongside a black hole super power that just annihilates everything. Both also come with a plethora of perks that are insanely overpowered. Flow specifically has what's basically the strongest luck perk in Jumpchain last I checked.

>>143821 Good answer!

>>143833 I assume because people here are more lonely than horny.

>>143835 Tgere's one in Shard's favorite setting Supernatural as well IIRC.

>>143813 I think the point of contention here is that I don't consider identity death meaningful for the purposes of assessing immortality in the sense of preserving your functional existence. Like Kars is still immortal at the end of part 2. >powerful beings Drastically, drastically, drastically less powerful beings. Like hell a party of starting Beasts or Demons could probably do it.

>>143835 Supernatural also has a perk that lets you do that, Dragons in setting can too.

>>143833 Because they aren't actually simping, they're trophy collecting and thinking of those women as trophies. As others have pointed out, if it was just about simping they'd just get custom companions and have them look the same but have none of the insufferable characteristics.

Would 100 class levels and 100 in every stat be enough for a mortal to kill a D&D God?

>>143817 >>143832 So few..... What happened to you anons? You used to be better

>>143844 Is that waifu cheating on you?

>>143843 >100 in every stat Stats stack linearly, 100 in every stat just makes you 10x the average human. Like 100 strength for example would only let you lift 3000 pounds.

>>143846 So a god or multi ton dragon with strength in the 30s is only as strong as three and change average humans?

>>143845 No, you're the one cheating on her

>>143847 depends what size they are like a small creature with 30 Strength can only lift half as much as a medium creature with 30 stregh, and a large creauture can lift twice as much as an equal strength medium one, this doubles with every size category. So a huge Adult Red Dragon with a strength of 27 would be closer to 10 times as strong than an average human with a strength of 10.

>“Unleash your primordial wrath and annihilate the dyad.” >The Dyad is a title used by the Pythagoreans for the number two, representing the principle of "twoness" or "otherness". >Numenius of Apamea, a Neopythagorean philosopher in the latter 2nd century CE, said that Pythagoras gave the name of Monad to God, and the name of Dyad to matter. Aristotle equated matter as the formation of the elements (energies) into the material world as the static material was formed by the energies being acted upon by force or motion. Later Neoplatonic Philosophers and idealists like Plotinus treated the dyad as a second cause (demiurge), which was the divine mind (nous) that via a reflective (finiteness) causes matter to "appear" or become perceivable. >In Buddhism, Dyad signifies the commitment formula used by Tapussa and Bhallika, illustrating a formal relationship with the Buddha and marking their dedication as lay-disciples within the spiritual community. >In Hinduism, "Dyad" encompasses duality as a fundamental principle, symbolizing the relationship between the One and the many, and describes a small entity formed from two atoms, reflecting both physical and philosophical interpretations. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q30whZXXYOQ These Hexatombe teasers be getting crazy.

>>143793 The other anon is correct. Even if you both are women you get pregnant.

>>143823 They become dick pregnant. No they will not have any special protections or healing afterwards. >>143827 As the anon said they get egg'd >>143829 Every cell in you body becomes pregnant and you fucking explode. You specifically Nyanko. You will explode if anyone does that.

Why are you guys so gae lately?

>>143770 is this supposed to be like cyberpunk avatar

>>143854 Been too busy to inject this thread with my throbbing heterosexuality and spray my straightness all over everyone.

>>143854 They are trying to gay you away.

>>143853 >You specifically Nyanko. You will explode if anyone does that. But why? I simply made you aware of the possibility!

>>143857 He gae tho.

>>143848 With girls from oppai academy?

>>143803 >Ascent and Apotheosis. They are things So, I don't know what Ascent actually is. It's not a thing in the 1e sourcebook, which is all I've actually read of NWoD mummies. Apotheosis is definitely not something I'm interested in, since it flat out ensures you will eventually just die permanently. >>143840 >I think the point of contention here is that I don't consider identity death meaningful for the purposes of assessing immortality in the sense of preserving your functional existence Fair, my own belief is that losing all of your identity means becoming a new person >Like Kars is still immortal at the end of part 2. I personally would consider being permanently reduced to a nonsentient immobile statue to be death. >Drastically, drastically, drastically less powerful beings. Like hell a party of starting Beasts or Demons could probably do it. It's a Power + Resistance + Chi check to drain a purified's Essence. ... I'm not exactly sure what a purified's Power or Resistance would actually be though. World of Darkness - Immortals doesn't actually go into it. Presumeably it'd be whatever is average for a spirit of the rank that a Purified's Chi makes them count as, but I'm not actually sure what sourcebook to look at to see what a spirit can do at whatever rank. ... I do know that a Purified can actually buy Ranks proper instead of just Chi too, which lets them boost their attributes for every level of Rank, letting it go above 5 dots

>>143850 You know the more I think about it, the more I think maybe Mr. Kyn IS supposed to be the patriarchy (or at least a traumatised little girl's impression of it, and growing up, and abandonment etc). The whole suffragette/see women as people not holes plot being so loud and proud right before Bye Sweet Carole INSTANTLY cuts to a "you'll never be alone" plot almost feels like the suffragette plot was crudely jammed into a preexisting story. It doesn't help that because the MC spends so much time in la-la land that a bunch of characters have to exposition the plot at her since she accomplished less than nothing in actually finding out what was going on herself. Also Lana literally declares she can fight Mr. Kyn because he's imaginary, just saying. Hell multiple characters affirm the kingdom exists in Lana's imagination. This doesn't necessarily disprove the idea that Mr. Kyn ISN'T a literal world-devouring tar god monster thing, it's just that...well, he's one that happens to be imaginary. Like The Neverending Story rules ...also like, every man in the game literally being depicted as a faceless smug fashionable Slenderman and the nice guy nobleman becoming one of those faceless menacing fashionable Slendermen, AND his version of devolving into a monster interspersed with him yelling at her is kind of on the nose. So is the fact that Ms. Hinman turns into a tar rabbit. Real convenient how anyone with even a hint of moral complexity unaligned with the suffragette movement turns out to be or turn into a Mr. Kyn plant, and how Ms. Fisherin stops being a savage bunny monster because Lana sees a different side of her. Are we sure LANA isn't the problem here? That she isn't some kind of delusional reality warper that just transforms people into whatever she sees them as? That instead of Wanderer or Persona, Lana isn't an Actual inflicting Visage and Style wherever she goes?

>>143667 Beast the Primordial. I'm going to be a Hero.

>>143862 >I don't know what Ascent actually is It's the Apotheosis option for the Deceived. They can't liberate themselves from the Judges conventionally because they're not actually enslaved to the Judges, but they can switch from being temakh-slaves to Fate-slaves. They basically become mummy Counter Guardians who spend most of their time in timeless peace as one with the universe, and their time alive as agents carrying out both beautiful and terrible things in service of the mysterious grand force vaguely related to both galaxies and the flow of Sekhem itself. The temakh itself is reduce to an utterly impotent witness to it's own rogue slave. >Power + Resistance + Chi >In a Clash of Wills and my opponent is a Beast or Mastigos who brought his unfairly buff Goetia waifu with him Purifiedbros...

>>143865 >It's the Apotheosis option for the Deceived Huh, neat. I really gotta get around to reading the 2e sourcebook. The bit about Purified getting to have attributes above 5 dots is actually from The Book of Lasting Death, a 2e mummy sourcebook.

>>143864 You actually get 500 extra points for being a Hero iirc, the entire Hero perk tree costs 1,000. What other perks/items are you planning to get?

>>143867 NTA, but Hunting Grounds and Trait-Er are always nice to have as a hero.

>>143738 The fuck is a takei. >>143798 If you are a Jumper and don't have more, you are a failure as a Jumper. FAILURE AS A JUMPER! KYAHAHAHA! Need more lewd jump.

>>143868 Honestly, those are my go to perks and I always take Hero as well. Being a Beast is a Burden.

>>143864 Being a hero first jump seems like a bad idea because the guy that made Beast is such a hack that they can easily be steamrolled by a regular beast, despite them supposedly being the antagonists.

>>143857 >>143858 Well it's working! >>143860 Yes

>>143871 Check the perks in the jump, they're pretty good for evening the odds. Even has a perk to completely nosell the stupid power cancelling that certain beasts can do.

>>143667 I think I'll change my mind from being a Purified to being a Hero. I wanna hit up MtG Duskmourne while having Hunting Grounds and Trait-Er. Just add large chunks of an infinite house of horrors to my Lair while actually doing the heroic thing and fighting monsters

>>143871 The best part of being a hero is that you don't actually need to hunt down beasts during the jump. You can just ignore them if you want

>>143872 Be cum gay!

Okay, after double and triple-checking the content and finishing the remaining sections, the first 'complete' version of the Dimensional Stalker Supplement is now ready. As always, feel free to give any feedback, including suggestions for other things you might want in it. >Changelog: >Added a new ability, Corrupted Source. >Added a section dedicated to getting rid of the Stalker permanently. >Added a Notes section to cover any niche things I didn't want to include in the main text. >Actually added a version section, not that I expect this to be updated a lot.

>>143854 I've always wanted to be a femboy. Or trap. Or shota. Or loli

>>143873 Fair enough, didn't check the actual jump yet. >>143875 Yeah but getting Gifts is fun.

>>143867 I usually grab the ritual perk and the one for being able to dump your entire mana pool without issue. That plus the good version of the weapon makes for a great starter kit for a hunter. >>143871 Only if you are stupid enough to try to 1v1 a beast without high explosives.

>>143866 I like that the 2e sourcebook made Judges a little more relevant both by defining the most powerful and influential 7, and also by giving them the power to anoint people as their avatar (with a super mode that's an expression of their divinity; basically an Exalted Shintai). It's also the sourcebook that strongly hints that yes, the Judges are in fact Lower Depths entities. Which taken into account with the ending of Dreams of Avarice seems to suggest even if the creation myth of Mummy is taken at face value, the Judges of Duat have unintentionally fucked themselves over with their own cruel lawtism in such a way they're stuck precariously starving for Sekhem as a result of the laws they've enforced. There's a scenario in 2e where the Sekhem runs out and not only do the Judges get very angry and desperate, but the revivals start grinding to a halt.

>>143854 There is something in the water perhaps.

>>143853 >They become dick pregnant TIL that futas are just hyenas

>>143877 I might have to use this with Excommunicado. Being chased by a Punishment for Hubris or Benefactor's Hound motive stalker would fit Excommunicado pretty well and I can use killing the stalker as an actual chain goal. Maybe use killing the Stalker with the Spirit Eating Blade as a way to justify getting my Bodymod and Warehouse, due to literally subsuming the Stalker's lair

>>143880 I'm reading up on Anathema in Beast the Primordial, assuming it works somewhat like that, having a weapon that does Aggravated damage to everything is a hell of a weapon.

>>143885 >assuming it works somewhat like that I'm pretty sure it works exactly like that

>>143850 Between this and everything else, I'm starting to realize that Ordem is basically the Second Apocalypse series but dressed in an Esoterrorists suit and trying to act like it's actually an AU of Esoterrorists. >>143863 It really does need to be pointed out though that several characters - including Ms. Hinman herself - bring up "the breach" and the supernatural weirdness. And again. Mr. Kyn notes that Lana "evoked" him, as though her reality warper powers gave him form in reality but did not literally out-and-out create him. Which presumably means anyone with Lana's powers could have done so, it's just that Lana has specifically shaped him according to things that terrify her (the official taking her from her home, worries about the future, losing her agency, the suffragette movement/things against it, etc). Incidentally though, and this was pointed out before when we first discussed him, Mr. Kyn...doesn't really care about the suffragette stuff at all? Sure, he turns people against it into tar/Rotten all the time, but I think that's less because of Lana shaping him to hate them and more because their selfish desires make it easy for them to be consumed or overtaken by him - note that Lord DeWitt is entirely untouched by his influence until /after/ he proves he was only interested in "taming" Lana; which has nothing to do with the suffragette's specifically, but purely with him being scum on a personal level - Lana seemed...well not 'fine', but at least not entirely against hanging out with him despite his obvious intentions until that point. Hinman dissolves into a tar rabbit because she's a horrible person who was the major reason Carole died and then tried to cover it up - her being against the suffragette's is secondary to the fact she killed someone, even though said indirect killing is because of her opinions on the movement. Fisherin wasnt a direct part of the movement or anything and Lana never really knew her that well, and her corruption was moreso because she had lost all hope or desire for the future. That's what Kyn is at his core I think; stagnancy, the mindless desire for a blind status quo over the future. It's why he's so associated with time and why he constantly alludes to a "world of ash, tar, and coal", the very thing the future is relentlessly heading towards. All of the people he corrupts or subverting are entirely because they're terrible people who only wish to perpetuate things that crush the hopes of others, regardless of whether they're directly involved in the suffragette movement or not. We even see it with how people who aren't inherently awful still become corrupted if trapped in rabbit form for too long, like Amanda - which doesn't really seem to support it being specific to anti-suffragette ideology, but moreso losing hope in general. There's certainly a "I hate people who just treat women as holes" aspect to things here and there, but Mr. Kyn doesn't really seem to be that as part of his core nature. I think he'd be just as corruption even if you took him somewhere without the whole 'anti-suffragette' ideals on full display, because he's ultimately present anywhere people yearn for the taste of toxic nostalgia, or where they've lost all hope and don't see a point in pressing forward for the future. And ultimately, when Lana goes into the future, and we see the ruined Bunny Hall and towering smokestacks everywhere, we see the Rotten /thriving/ in this husk of a world where coal, ash and tar are the sole things the world runs on. The Rotten don't care about suffragettes or anything like that; their goal is to create a world of black-and-grey where all hope and prospects of a better life have been snuffed out under relentless industrialization.

>>143884 That is a perfectly fine use of the supplement, and I'm glad it can be of use to you. I imagine its going to be interesting without either a bodymod or warehouse, but its the main advantage of a perfectly scaling threat - if you are weak, its weak to compensate.

>>143854 Is Time Stop Sex gay?

>>143889 Are you fucking guys to make them cream their pants in public or something?

>>143890 Htf did you come up with this conclusion.

>>143855 I think it's just one of those modern AU's.

>>143891 >"IT WAS ME, BARRY! I FUCKED YOU IN PUBLIC AT HYPERSPEED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU CREAMED YOUR PANTS AT THE SIGHT OF A WOMAN!"

>>143863 >>143887 >Are we sure LANA isn't the problem here? Well, Lana dying certainly doesn't seem like it would stop Kyn now that he's here. Lana may have called him here but Kyn is just fine self-perpetuating without her. >That she isn't some kind of delusional reality warper that just transforms people into whatever she sees them as? Pretty certain I agreed that this is the case, at least on some level. Another thing to point out is that Baesie says that him and the other spirits of Corolla grow weaker as Kyn grows stronger, which seemingly further supports that Mr. Kyn is just rampant despair, unchecked growth at the expense of people's dreams or desires (industrialization and things like it, the anti-suffragette viewpoint), and clinging to the status quo over moving forward given how Baesie and the other spirits seem to embody the positive aspects of imagination, nature and moving forward, no matter what.

>>143893 That's hyperspeed, not Time Stop. You know, The World. Za Warudo. Wryyyyyyy. Mudamudamudamuda?

>>143895 Close enough for government work.

>>143680 >Zombie apocalypse, but with more sex I was expecting some kind of time manipulation game and am sorely disappointed.

>>143869 It's a Boruto dating sim/porn game. The metaplot seemed stupid but I skipped through most of the text. It had an oyakodon route with Hinata and Himawari and an alright looking Sarada route so I'll say it's a decent game.

>>143887 >And again. Mr. Kyn notes that Lana "evoked" him, as though her reality warper powers gave him form in reality but did not literally out-and-out create him >presumably Look I'm just saying, that's like ONE line compared to the extremely heavyhanded message of Lana learning to stand up for herself with the power of family/friends/being a suffragette. And yeah Mr. Kyn doesn't care, but my point on reflection is the pacing by which his corruption overtakes people uncannily follows Lana's own perception of them rather than their objective morality. Like I feel you could make an argument Ms. Hinman isn't a completely irredeemable person but fucked up once and is desperately clinging to that status quo, but because it resulted in the manslaughter of Lana's friend she's a DISGUSTING TAR MONSTER even though the bullies get off with a slap on the wrist (because that fits the suffragette narrative better). >>143894 >Pretty certain Also I don't think I remember you bringing that up, mostly I just remember both of us being amused that if you ignore the timing and targeting of the corruption (which is the main reason I'm starting to reconsider everything) then yeah Mr. Kyn doesn't give a shit about societal norms, he just wants to bully a girl out of her delicious corruptible kingdom.

>>143898 ...I think I got brainrot.

Huh. I just realized that if I get the Akasha internet option from Gene's Generic Isekai and the crafting system, I could just have my System create whatever the fuck I want as long as there's instructions to make it online. Might need to buy a cheat to overcome the Inventory's size limits if I wanna start fabricating houses or gundams though

>>143885 Yeah it makes you actually capable of killing a lot of monsters that are too tough to feasibly kill as a mortal. Especially later in the chain since I like to stay relatively mortal for the early parts of mine.

>>143893 you see Absolute Thawne yet?

Speaking of WoD, bloodlines 2 releases next week and it looks like it's also jank.

>>143899 >but my point on reflection is the pacing by which his corruption overtakes people uncannily follows Lana's own perception of them rather than their objective morality. Whilst that's true, I think a lot of it has to do with their own perspectives on things as much as its down to Lana. Ms. Fisherin doesn't turn back to normal just because learns she didn't fail in school intentionally and was sabotaged; she only turns back once she herself sees and reads the paper, drawing up those memories of who she used to be and her former hopes back to the surface. Amanda only snaps out of her own corruption when Lana reads her the names of suffragettes and female writers she admires. Etc. It takes people having hope in and of themselves or a drive to be better that fights off Mr. Kyn's corruption. >Like I feel you could make an argument Ms. Hinman isn't a completely irredeemable person but fucked up once and is desperately clinging to that status quo, but because it resulted in the manslaughter of Lana's friend she's a DISGUSTING TAR MONSTER even though the bullies get off with a slap on the wrist (because that fits the suffragette narrative better). As the above, the bullies got turned into rabbits and survived only because they worked together with those they're once abused. Hinman turned into a grotesque tar creature because even to the very end, she was making excuses and didn't actually resolve to CHANGE as a person. Despite that though, you see Lana reaching out for her and wanting to follow her depsite her awful actions with her only being stopped by Marcel. So I definitely think it wasn't Lana specifically here who caused it, but merely how Kyn's corruption worked. Lana didn't LIKE Hinman at all, but I don't think she ever wanted her to become one of the Rotten either. >Also I don't think I remember you bringing that up I did point out that she's definitely some flavor of reality warper. Maybe not that she transforms everyone she interacts with based on her perception, but that she 100% has magical powers she doesn't have full awareness or control over.

>>143904 Has there ever been a non-jank WoD product? Or White Wolf product, for that matter?

>>143904 Bloodlines 1 was jank too, so that tracks. As long as it's not as bad as Kindred The Embraced was

>>143904 Are you really surprised? I'm elsewhere staring at Exodus having 1000x more effort put into interviews and side merch than actual fucking gameplay and wondering if it will be merely shit, or the apotheosis of mid >>143906 Nope. Bloodlines 1 was merely creatively and entertainingly jank.

Would a Beast The Primordial Hero with the perk to apply their abilities to non-Beasts make a good hunter of other WoD monster splats such as the Vampires and Furries?

>>143908 >Nope. Bloodlines 1 was merely creatively and entertainingly jank. I couldn't finish playing Bloodlines 1 because the bomb in the warehouse decided to just not explode. Across twelve different playthroughs.

>>143908 last I heard it went through a couple dozen rewrites that kept being scrapped from a dozen different writers that all seemed to do the stupidest shit starting from whoever the fuck decided a thinblood diablerie plot was the way to go

How small do you think you could make a supcom style robot/material printer? I want to install one in my workshop.

>>143909 Up to a point, yes. But going around hunting the Uratha will rapidly lead to very bad shit going down.

>>143912 A 3d printer.

>>143912 Get a Desktop Cornucopia Machine from Eclipse Phase. Or that 3d printer from Watchdogs 2

>>143913 . . . I forgot this was nWoD and was thinking of hunting Garou.

>>143909 Yes as long as you have good enough stats to not get instaraped by any of the big boys. If you are roughly in their tier then they make you an amazing hunter.

>>143916 Nothing's stopping you from going to OWoD after and hunting them.

>>143916 Hunting the Garou will ALSO lead to very bad shit going down. For all their chronic retardation, the Garou have prevented multiple apocalypses, like sacrificing themselves to keep Eater-of-Souls from crossing over into reality. Something that would have instantly ended the world had it succeeded.

>>143906 No, and vtm games are cursed considering Swansong is also a mess.

>>143916 You could always hunt the Pure, which are the Garou expies.

>>143919 True, he should probably track down the spiral dancers instead of the nation as a whole.

>>143887 What would happen if a Saturday morning cartoon villain who is a feminist that supports women's rights (to be wagies) showed up to help Lana against Mr. Kyn?

>>143923 He probably ends up helping the Rotten more than anything else. Or becoming one himself, due to his actual desires conflicting with his intent to 'help'

>>143778 Get some weather powers. Nothing says "fuck you" like striking people with lightning

>>143924 What if he was too zanny and hopeful with the unbreakable spirit of a shounen protagonist to give into stagnation and be corrupted?

>>143926 Unbreakable shoenn spirit is essentially what ends up giving Lana the strength to beat Kyn in the end. So I guess Lana trades Kyn for someone just as bad, but in the opposite direction.

What if I just immediately kill any and all slavers I see, and free their slaves?

>>143928 The isekai lands usually have some magic collars or seals that instakill the slaves if their masters die. Congratulations on "getting rid of" the slaves.

>>143929 What if I kill the slavers with a Keyblade, unbinding the magic that enslaves the slaves in the same moment?

>>143929 Oh nooooooooo. If only Dispel Magic was a thing....

>>143930 You successfully win the imagination exercise?

>>143926 They always try to justify slavery when it is so simple. >>143928 Some places have slavery to work off debts. So kill all bankers instead for handing out those loans. Some other places have people willing becoming slaves... elven women just wont stop trying to be sex slaves.

>>143928 Something something about not rocking the boat.

>>143933 Why isn't the hero saving up for the elf? As an isekai protagonist you should be able to build up wealth quickly.

>>143935 Baalbuddy has a running gag that elves get no dick.

>>143935 The elf's obviously overpriced. You could easily haggle that slaver down to 200 gold.

>>143936 That elf is there winningly and you do not fuck the elf. Plus, in BB you can get a hundred willing elves for free. They will even pay you.

>>143936 Fair, but she seems to have good magic. >>143937 And yet he's not even trying!

>>143927 >Stuck in a lose-lose between letting a tar monster consume the world or let Eggman get a win Which way western man?

>>143940 Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Robotnik was a great character.

>>143940 Run faster.

>>143915 >>143914 Huh eclipse phase would honestly be a solid next jump in my current cyberpunk/traveling mega tower arc. Thanks.

>>143940 Light the tar on fire.

>>143940 Let Eggman try to hijack the tar monster then kill them both when it absorbs/consumes him.

>>143940 Reminder.

>>143946 Sonic is a trany and loves drag. Odd the only times he puts on clothing is to dress like a woman

>>143947 Same with Bugs Bunny.

>>143946 I do not like this picture.

Jumper is trying to become a lich in MoL (pretty standard, bind your soul to a phylactery so it returns to and reforms upon destruction of your ectoplasm-body). This isn't an option offered in jump. This process probably involves technically dying / shedding your original body. Would this chainfail him? How would you handle this? Jumper's current plan to check this is to do it to a companion, and if they respawn via companion-fiat, assume it will chainfail him.

>>143949 What's wrong, anon? We're just watching cartoons like the old days.

It's so horrifying. Data scientists have mastered Bayes' theorem. They've figured out the probabilities of particular human behaviours and what information, what AI-slop triggers these behaviours usually. The entire world has been enclosed into a playground for social media algorithms. My hope is space colonisation creates a new frontier by delaying the time it takes for communications and algos to reach other humans. Otherwise, only geopolitical meltdown can do anything.

>>143946 not sure how much that was predicted and how much was willy wonka blueberry

>>143953 Or Totally Spies.

>>143950 We dont have a mother of learning jump, so I am not sure what jump you are using. anyway, in Mother of Learning I'd consider death to be when your Soul loses its ability to think, be it with a fleshy brain or magically simulated one. Like if your body died, but in your last moments you created an ectoplasm body around your soul like Zorian did when he left the Timeloop, I'd only consider it a chainfail if you stop being able to maintain it, before getting a new body. Becoming a lich should be fine.

>>143950 Just have a 1up before attempting it and if you respawn then you know it doesn't work.

>>143952 >turns screen off >goes outside >spams any and all slop with reports then demands it not be rec’d again >resists the urge to consoom by simply refusing to give over your money out of spite It’s that easy. >space colonisation You absolute dingus, by the time we get it the spaceships will be full of mandatory unskippable ads and spyware. Space is the worst place you could go to escape the corposphere because THE CORPOS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN AFFORD SPACE TRAVEL OTHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE CORPOS (in the west).

>>143957 So Tracer Tong was right?

>>143958 Orwell and Ellison were right.

>>143952 AI, as it exists today, is only good for creating shitty porn of obscure anime characters. It has no other appeal or useful applications.

You think I can have a Duel Disk as my Cheat Weapon in Konosuba? And if so, what kind of Duel Disk should I get?

>>143960 It’s not even THAT good at that, it’s just faster and takes less skill than the average artist. What AI is actually good for is googling easily found answers and doing math faster than you.

>>143961 ...What would be the point of a Duel Disk?

>>143963 Mage/Caster support, like a staff or wand. Spedifically to augment secondary items like spells sealed in, say, cards.

>>143964 That sound busted. As in, the cheap kind of busted. And complicated considering the text of some cards.

>>143962 That's why I specified obscure, because no artist is wasting time on them. Search is hit-or-miss enough to be useless. I've seen summaries outright invert information before, and there's weirder stuff popping up. I'll take your word for it that calculator-extension AI are decent, at least for sufficiently short word problems.

>>143961 >You think I can have a Duel Disk as my Cheat Weapon in Konosuba? No, Val was actually fairly strict in it needing to be a normal weapon when one anon repeatedly asked if a Mecha would work.

>>143967 Oh I'm certain the guy asking for the mecha just wanted to two hand it...

>>143967 Annoying. Ah well, it'll save CP to cut that out of my purchases anyways.

>>143969 I mean, nothing stop you from still making it a duel disk anyways.

>>143961 >>143964 Can't you just will the monsters into existence with egyptian magic?

>>143971 Yes I can, but there's something so satisfying about dramatically drawing yugioh cards and slapping them down onto my duel disk to summon them.

>>143962 >What AI is actually good for is googling easily found answers nta, but I like it for stuff that is specific but hard to google. Like when I wanted to make a fate servant I had AI give me lists of historical/mythological characters with traits that would be very hard to google for, like looking for some that wield specific weapons with certain parentage and things like that. It still gave me a bunch of suggestions that were useful, but as a human its easy tot recognize the useful among the trash. Also I like being able to ask it stuff like which episode/chapters of certain stories feature certain elements, which makes it a lot easier for me to look up sources. Though that only works with decently known stuff that has most of its story summarized.

If a billion people died or some other true non-fabricated happening occurs, would that shock the algorithm?

>>143974 The AI will simply hallucinate harder.

>>143962 I use AI entirely to do math faster because fuck those assignments that go "do all this stuff that requires highly in-depth mathematical knowledge (that we have not taught you) that a single person has next-to-no chance of ever accomplishing and complete it all within this extremely short deadline whilst you're getting swamped by other assignments due in even shorter time frames :)".

>>143973 Oh yeah, as long as it has a wiki I consider it easy for AI, what I mean is if you need to say-generate a rapefic or want to look up info that’s either found on ancient geocities sites and the AI goes “I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that” >>143976 Same. University level math is fair game for it, the tricky part is getting it to show your working.

>SB finally has a Stray Cat Strut jump Fucking finally! I've been expecting them to make one of those for ages now

>>143928 They're not slaves, they're serfs. Totally different things ok.

>>143978 >Stray Cat Strut Explain the appeal of this.

>>143980 Magical girls go brrr

I miss the lewdness of the 2010s with To Love Ru and Lyrical Nanoha's fanservice and I'm afraid it might become rarer or even disappear if evangelical zealots seize control of AI mass surveillance.

>>143978 ...Are you ill, for you to be excited over it?

>>143981 I see.

>>143983 I like the setting. Specifically the spinoff where the protagonist was a exosuit operator for Amazon and decided to go for being a mecha pilot

I recently googled if japan has the term "crocodile tears" to see if a wordplay I was going for in an anime world would make sense and the google AI just hallucinated that Japanese instead use the term "Shark Tears" which there's like no source you can find backing it up. Was really a wakeup call about how unreliable it is.

>>143985 Okay this sound pretty cool. Approved taste.

>>143986 Yeah, the constant lies and hallucinations are the fun part of talking to AI. You can ask them to tell you what's wrong with what they said and they'll tell you where they fucked up, but they might lie about that too

>>143986 It's really magical, once you get into it. >https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/21/replit_saastr_vibe_coding_incident/

>>143989 >article begins with "The founder of SaaS business development outfit SaaStr has claimed AI coding tool Replit deleted a database despite his instructions not to change any code without permission. >"SaaStr runs an online community and events aimed at entrepreneurs who want to create SaaS businesses." >At no point in the article does it explain that SaaS means Software as a Service amazing.

>>143990 The Register is a rag written by IT professionals, for an audience of IT professionals.

>>143987 The one about the short girl in the adorable teddybear hoodie building an army of robot furries was nice too

>>143978 >SB Explain the appeal of this.

>>143993 Fanfic writers go brrr

Miracle Man or Maximum Wellness? I can only get one or the other.

>>143995 1d2 = 2

>>143995 Maximum Wellness. Miracle Man is stronger but it's also perfectly willing to make you the butt of the joke if it'll achieve it's goals

>>143986 I don't know how it got there, but a possible link is the samebito yokai, which is a humanoid shark whose tears turn into gems. Nothing to do with crocodile tears, but it does hit "japanese, tears, animal"

Remember the old debates about evolution and YeC? Good times.

>>143999 >Remember the old debates about evolution and YeC? No, sorry

>>143999 YeC?

>>144001 Young-Earth Creationism. Anon probably shouldn't have brought it up, since it's off-topic.

I am once again reminded just how ass many of Val's drawbacks are.

>>144003 Val was one of the people who thought drawbacks should be actually detrimental

>>143995 if you focus on playing yugioh Miracle Man is the obvious answer. Maximum Wellness would quickly be too expensive to use.

>>144005 If he's focused on playing YuGiOh then he'd want to get How I learned To Love The Bomb

>>144004 nta, but I dislike that the detriment often just doesn't make for a fun story, like its no challenge to overcome, just a way to be miserable..

>>143995 Slightly different question: Capstone Boosted Maximum Wellness, or standard Miracle Man AND Maximum Wellness? If I drop the capstone booster I can grab Miracle Man, but then I can't make the impossible possible...

>>143897 It doesn't help I misremembered a key scene that lead to that perk's creation. Might need to rethink things. >>143900 Honestly bro, even from someone who played it and paid attention you might have been better off with his summary. Basically an inter-dimensional traveler of some kind enters the Naruto world, but she feasts on the souls of men. To do so, she uses some kind of magic to seal away all mean except one, who becomes a guy 'destined to defeat her'. Except not really because she is stupid strong, and most men get too addicted to fucking all the women in the world (while killing her would free the men and end his reign of 'last man') that they don't really wanna go through with it and lose. You play as the single man left in the Elemental Nations, get given a crash course in how to be a ninja while everyone is scrambling to either pick up the pieces and unfuck things or take advantage of the chaos, timeline wise you are a bit after Boruto and friends graduate. You also slowly seduce a metric fuckton of girls over the course of your stay with various methods, like Karui gets off on you fucking her daughter while you guilt trip Hinata into helping you with your tension to get her husband back or just straight seduction like most of the people your age (like 13). Also in terms of the rest of the plot the traveler has some kind of daughters she empowers who are supposed to fight you, you secretly have some kind of demon or some shit inside of you that gives you a huge power boost that caused you to get kicked out of your clan, and your mom has some kind of vague holy powers somehow. But, more important than any of that, is you can get the MILFs to use henge to fuck their genin forms. Even Tsunade. True kino.

>>143913 Is there even a reason to kill the Uratha? They seem pretty chill. It's like hunting Changelings.

>>144010 Uratha tend to be a little destructive when on warpath and can incur some nasty collateral damage, but in general they're very much a net positive for the world.

>>144010 It's perfectly reasonable to kill the Uratha who cosplay as Garou.

>>143899 >>143905 Speaking of Mr.Kyn and coming back to when I was questioning whether he was a Bane or Idigam (settled on Bane, possibly an incarnation of one of the Maeljin or maybe a manifestation of Foebok), I do have to wonder what would happen if you imported him into the oWoD proper. Not many things with his level of apparent power or grab-bag abilities reliably interact with reality in that setting or care to, and his seeming inability to both be harmed unless his evoker gains the strength to oppose him personally and the fact he can just manifest again so long as the risk of them falling into despair is present means that he's a long-term problem that can't reliably be addressed (unless you're Garou and you jsut sorta decide that killing Lana would solve the issue, but then you're left with the fact that you've likely just made it possible another evoker somewhere else appears and you can't find them in time. Not to mention how if you kill her BEFORE she banishes him, then Kyn is here to stay). Like, if it were just spawning hordes of lesser entities, the shapeshifting, transmutating people into rabbits or tar monsters, or even the time travel individually then it would be one thing. But Kyn has literally all of these abilities at once and it's hard to think of many threats in oWoD who can boast that whilst not being the sort of things that aren't given any stats at all. His overall physical abilities might not match up to a Garou in Crinos, but that doesn't really matter much when he can turn them into a harmless little rabbit at will.

Okay, dumb taking nWoD into oWoD question. How much good could I do if I, as an Archmage, as a Fate/Time spell into the far past which causes the Garou to stop doing stupid stuff all the time? Ideally, I target this after the split between them and the Ratkin so human civilization isn't fucked over, but what would the modern-day world resemble after doing that?

>>144015 It'd be impossible. The Garou are 100% convinced they are right, all the time. You would have to murder almost all of them.

>>144015 Not possible even if you were a Rank 10 Archmage; Garou stupidity surpasses the Rank system.

>>144015 Other Archmages and equivalent powers prevent it because it would fuck over their interests by drastically changing the past.

>>144010 Yeah, there's no real reason to want to kill the Uratha. The Pure, sure - but they don't really count as Uratha (and calling them as such would cause them to descend into northing at the mouth rage. Moreso than usual at least). The Uratha's biggest problem is that they blame themselves for something they had no control over and could never fix, but otherwise they have fully dedicated themselves to protecting the world from the depradations of the Hosts or various completely insane spirits and eldritch abominations. >>144015 If you managed to succeed, then you'd create a world where, with most of the Fera still alive and working together, the Wyrm and Weaver are saved from insanity, Pentex never forms, the Technocracy DEFINITELY never forms (or at least, never gains as much power as it does in the modern day), and the apocalypse is averted - along with possible the various apocalypses of the other gamelines. Seeing as how this is a hyper-optimistic outcome that essentially fixes everything forever, the Quintessence for said Imperial working immediately blows up in your face and the spell fails because it would entail fixing the Garou at such a level they wouldn't even be Garou anymore.

>>144018 >Immunity to Paradox + Exalted Solar Excellency + Specifically made Solar Mage Charms + Rank N/A artifact specifically dedicated to this cause FUCK YOUR INTERESTS

>>144019 >hyper-optimistic The Technocracy never forming is a bad thing.

>>144015 >>144019 What if instead of fixing the garou we just killed them all?

>>144022 No, anon. Now you are the Garou.

>>144023 I’m now imagining an uncle ruckus werewolf, thanks.

>>144024 >Uncle Ruckus Garou fully believes he is just a human >Constantly shittalks Garou culture >Never even realizes when he transforms

>>144024 >I feel like we don't give enough credit to them good mage people. The Umbra'd be a lot cleaner of a neighborhood if y'all stopped yiffin with them tree spirits or whatever y'all do.

>>144025 "But you're covered in fur!" "That's just hair, my family is from Scandinavia."

>>144021 Them never coming into existence at all is, yes. It's why I specified they might still form, but never gain as much power as they did in Canon. The entire reason they've become corrupted as they have is that they got too big, too powerful, and are retardedly tarring all existence with the same brush and labeling anything they don't like as a "reality deviant". They have become the very definition of Stasis, pure Weaver corruption and the Syndicate themselves are in bed with fucking Pentex aka the apocalypse cult literally running and ruining the world. A world where the Weaver is cured of its insanity is a world where either the Technocratic Union as we know it is never formed or it comes into existence, but retains its purely beneficial nature and exists as a force to maintain human progress and development and nothing else.

>>144020 >He doesn't know

>>144026 >>144027 I'm imagining Uncle Ruckus' wereform not causing the delirium due to his utter belief in his pure humanity, confusing the shit out of everyone.

>>144016 >>144017 I know that there is no way to make the Garou smart. That is why it was a Fate spell, to make that no matter how stupid they act, they somehow always do the correct answer. ...now that I am saying it, I agree, they would fuck it up somehow. >>144018 Fuck, is this an oWoD Pax Arcana situation I was not aware about or just politicis? Regardless, will have to take note of that regardless. >>144019 Well thats... a bit. The Technocracy is certainly a loss, but thats something I am willing to accept to unfuck the setting as long as I can put the work to unfuck it after. As for the Quintessence, that would take some work, but not impossible if I dedicated a lot of work to it, as hard as that would be. Excluding fucking wizard politics, of course. >>144022 This sounds like a terrible idea, no matter how tempting it is. Anyway, need to sleep now.

>>144018 Honestly that's more of a CofD concern than a oWoD one. Archmages are a lot easier to jump in WoD.

>>144030 >BASHES REALITY WITH A HAMMER I CAN FIX IT

>>144022 The world ends.

What are some highly effective tactics for pissing Gilgamesh off? I want him angry. No, not just angry. I want him literally frothing with rage. So overcome by sheer wrath that he literally pops blood vessels and starts crying tears of blood from sheer hate. I want him to loop all the way back around to calm, then all the way back around to frothing madness multiple times over. I want him to be so enraged that it becomes permanently marked onto the Throne of Heroes. How do I piss Gilgamesh off that much?

>>144014 >unless his evoker Sounds like a Mage problem to solve, although I kind of wonder if a Garou couldn't just brute force it. They are already designed as kind of a brute force solution to spiritual warfare, lots of Umbral spirits are "evoked" too and it's not like BSC is overflowing with people familiar with dealing with evil world-corrupting tar guys. Meanwhile over in nWoD he'd just be an extremely powerful being of the Dark over in Princess the Hopeful. >>144015 Since Argent covered what you would fix, I will cover what remains broken: The Neverborn would still be trying to build ghost hiveminds to conquer the world/eat their mother, vampires would still be a thing, the Earthbound would still be building their cults and being horrific crimes to reality, the Yama Kings would still be the more land-owning version of the Earthbound focused on corrupting Asia, even if you assume the Technocracy never forms the Nephandi and their incomprehensible monsters are still a thing-and maybe worse of all, God is still out there. Engineering everything so that humanity comes back crawling to him on it's knees. >>144016 If he's using Fate AND Time and an Imperial Working, it just reality warps the Garou into the desired outcome unless Gaia decides to intervene. Actually yeah that is probably the biggest risk to all this: That Gaia in her batshit insanity decides that actually, the Garou wolfing out is them working as intended. How powerful Gaia is in oWoD is very unclear. Some (but not all) of the Garou believe she is even more powerful than the Triat, while in one Gehenna scenario the Antediluvian Ennoia just eats and replaces her. >>144018 That would only be a certainty in nWoD, it's debatable if any of the powers-that-be in oWoD would do that especially when many of them are depicted as localised to their areas of influence by external forces. Like I said, off the top of my head Gaia actually is the one I think is in the best position to swat at an Imperial Working. There's also the Weaver but she is too autistic to individually antagonise people

>>144036 Summon Enkidu. When Curse Ishtar is summoned due to the original Ishtar leaving behind a curse to be auto-summoned whenever Gil and Enkidu enter the same Grail War, order Enkidu by Command Seal to fight on her side against Gil then rip his own heart out suddenly mid-fight.

>>144036 Constantly steal his items he throws at you. Dress like an extremely poor person and damage his armor with shitty weaponry. Don't wash. Spit in his eye.

Love you guys

>>144040 Lies? In your house of God?

>>144040 Who are you?

>>144041 I'm not lying. If I didn't have the Jumpchain community I would fall completely into despair

>>144040 Ew.

>>144040 Faggot

>>144037 I think the problem the Garou would have with Mr. Kyn just comes back to the fact he can just turn them into harmless little bunnies and then eat them at his leisure, or since his corruption seems hastened in said forms unless you're Lana with her specific ability to swap back and forth via her ribbon, then he can just wait until they degenerate into Rotten. Given how fighting against his corruption or even displaying resistance to it requires earnest hope and appreciation in something and 99% of Garou either fall in the camps of "Gaia is dying and we are barely holding the line in protecting her" or "Gaia is already dead and we're just delaying the raping of her corpse", I think they're very unsuited to the task. Something like a group of Red Talons would literally only make the problem worse. Maybe if they had a pact with a particularly powerful totem or Incarna who could intercede. But then there's really nothing stopping Kyn from just dumping them far into the past or far into the future. Most Garou lack the means to deal with temporal fuckery so they're just kinda fucked.

>>144036 Be like him, but better at everything, and more liked too. >>144040 I don't love guys, but I'm happy that you do.

>>144040 Love ya' too, Psycho. Be more honest with yourself though, bro.

>>144048 What do you mea

>>144049 Mea culpa?

>>144049 >>144048 *Mean?

>>144046 Well, the Garou aren't instantly folded by the corruption of Bane Spirits and Black Spiral Dancers just gradually, and Mr. Kyn is never shown corrupting anyone more powerful than a pre-suffrage aimless human with no knowledge of the supernatural so I'm not sure hope/feminism is the ONLY way to fight him off. I'm just saying, there's more than one Maeljin Incarna and if the Garou raging furiously was enough to damn the world on it's own the Wyrm would've won a long time ago.

>>144040 You're fun, weird but fun.

>>144049 He is trying to turn you to SIN

>>144049 Your homolust, Psycho. >>144052 True, true. But again, if he can't corrupt them, he can basically just leave them stranded in some distant time period and forget about them. The woofs can't really do much against that unless they beg on their hands and knees for some spirit to bail them out.

>>144053 Thank you >>144054 Oh >>144055 I'm not gay

>>144036 Be Shirou. >>144040 Love you too, buddy.

>>144056 >I'm not gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM

>>144055 >They could just get out by solving a small point and click-tier puzzle with a nearby clock, OR by having a sudden epiphany about believing in themselves and just kind of overcoming a seemingly binding magical contract >Garou are legitimately too stupid and hormonal to accomplish either feat and will just keep punching the increasingly dismal past while wondering why it keeps getting worse Hmm, true.

>>144059 Unironically, Kyn is more of a Mage or Demon problem. And the whole "just trap them in the past/future and leave them" tactic is a strong method of invalidating most of them. He's also such a massive source of banality that I'm pretty certain him being nearby would kill any Changeling.

>>144060 Okay be fair here, nobody with any good sense has ever asked a Changeling to solve any of the major problems in oWoD.

>>144037 >Meanwhile over in nWoD he'd just be an extremely powerful being of the Dark over in Princess the Hopeful. Actually, I JUST realized what nWoD villain type he most reminds me of; he's a True Fae. Right down to the whole "I have many names", all of the Rotten being a part of him, the shape-shifting, the reality and time-alteration and him being beaten in part by a magical contract forged by him being broken. Even him having his physical form shaped by Lana to a degree can be chalked up to him being 'inspired' by her trauma and misery and assuming those shapes based on her personal torment. >>144061 True.

>>144038 That was my entire plan for Psycho's FSN Abridged jump as Enkidu.

What's the best type of Linear magic to learn in oWoD? Or failing that just your favorite?

>>144061 >NOT NOW TOGO

For an uninitiated, what's the problem with Garous?

>>144066 Retards who literally doomed the world/exponentially hastened its destruction on all fronts.

>>144066 Insane team-killing retards who shoot themselves in the foot (and their allies through the skull) over pride.

>>144066 They have a passive mindrape aura and are literally directly responsible for entropy

>>144066 They're self righteous and self sabotaging, while their goal is to protect the world from malevolent forces their methods are extremely blunt and are often just making things worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8sJweoTTDU >Rare footage of Konata's time in Skyrim >>144064 ...depending on your definition of "linear", True Faith I suppose. It's technically linear right up until some enterprising human or demon figures out how to use it like God did. >>144066 Gaia's white bloodcells. Also constantly angry, mistrustful wolfmen. Killed off all the other animal shifters who were supposed to do things like maintain the land or facilitate diplomacy between the other shifters. Occasionally fall in league with the Wyrm, the cosmic spirit of entropy.

>>144064 Summoning, Fortune and Hellfire.

>>144066 Hippie ecoterrorists written unironically, or rather it was an entire splat flavored towards the gay Chechnyan massacre side of White Wolf.

So if I go to OWoD as a NWoD vampire, do you think I'd be able to embrace Cainites into my own clan, since apparently there's supposedly non-cain descended vampires that can just do that shit?

>>144066 They are foot soldiers in the war between growth and entropy. They’re also prideful fuckers who loath the fact they’re anything but all important to the war, so they teamkilled everyone actually useful (which includes the people immune to corruption and the people who could raise the dead iirc) until they were in charge. Which is kind of awful for their side of the war. Despite being champions of Gaia, they’ve done more harm to her than large swaths of the enemy forces.

>>144066 Modern Garou are mostly hippie ecoterrorists, but that is because they ran out of other races to murder. Historically they basically genocide everyone who was actually trying to keep the world functional.

>>144066 >We are the ones chosen to protect our mother planet! >Let us make sure that we are the ONLY chosen left, for we alone should have this honor! >We will kill our brother-species that was the only one capable of healing our mother planet's wounds because we alone should protect her! >Our mother planet birthed another fierce warrior race to fight alongside us? Let us drive them to nigh-extinction and force-breed them with domestic swine until their descendents are but soulless pigs to be eaten at our leisure. >What is happening, our mother planet is dying, how could this be happening?

>>144014 Wouldn't it be easier to make him as a Phantasmal Species from Fate?

>>144074 Yes but you're not going to get anyone just by going "Hey I'm new, join my funny crusade". Forming a clan in oWoD is a lot like being an alpha male influencer, you have to tell everyone how you're THE top predator and why only YOU know the absolute true and honest history of the world. No vampire wants to follow a loser, and most are under the impression they're supposed to exult in their most selfish and primal desires as a cope for being a reanimated corpse

>>144079 I figure the whole "Hey, my clan doesn't have generation limits" thing would result in me getting a lot of volunteers

>>144066 They're chinks.

>>144066 Okay, so they're supposed to be the protectors of nature. Literally, the spirit of the planet. But they fucked up so bad that most of the problems of their game are their own fault. Like there are other wereanimals each supposed to have their own function. The garou genocided the ones supposed to clean corruption, the healers capable of bringing the recent dead back to life and the matchmakers supposed to guide humanity to wisdom through genetic selection.

The Works of Aomizuan jump lets you make future jumps be entirely female except for yourself and just have that work out fine with no issues.

>>144014 >But Kyn has literally all of these abilities at once and it's hard to think of many threats in oWoD who can boast that whilst not being the sort of things that aren't given any stats at all So WoD is weaker then a strong willed woman.

>>144081 Most of them are white, but some are a little injun-coded.

>>144084 No, more like the sorts of threats that have all of Kyn's abilities at once are "You Fucking Lose" tier threats that are never given statblocks beyond "Plot Device". I agree with Shard that a particularly powerful and crafty Mage could sever whatever sympathetic link he has to Lana and banish him that way, but most mages aren't at that level and would get fucked if he dumped them in the past. There's also the fact they'd get raped by Paradox if they did anything in front of Lana or anyone else, whilst Kyn isn't so limited. A Demon could similarly fuck him over, but again, dumping them in the past or future makes them a non-issue unless they have timefuckery of their own.

>>144086 who even is this kyn dude you guys are talking about

>>144086 If I remember right WoD demons don't age, so there's actually potential for a funny sequence were a demon gets banished to the past only to walk back into frame from having waited the whole while.

Hm, seems I ran out of milk. I'll have to go pick up some more...

>>144088 I don't know about NWoD Demons, but the hosts of oWoD Demons do actually age. Like, it's specifically pointed out in their sourcebook that their hosts will age and eventually die, and that demons can't fix that.

>>144087 Main villain of Bye Sweet Carole. >>144088 >Mr. Kyn: Wait, how are you even here?? >Demon: I just waited a bit. Got really bored though >>144089 NO.

>>144089 One day. One day.

>>144091 >NO. C'mon man, how am I supposed to have cereal without milk?

>>144093 Just eat it.

>all that information about the Garou Not even the original anon that asked, but why hasn't the planet just killed and replaced them already if they're that harmful? Yes, there is the issue of the enemy they're supposed to be fighting causing harm while they're being replaced, but it legitimately sounds like the Garou are doing more harm than the enemy is already.

>>144095 Gaia is batshit insane and somehow still approves of them.

>>144095 Because the planet is fucking dying and can't really do shit (thanks to the Garou).

>>144080 Here's a hard question for you, anon. "Prove it" The average vampire is like an edgier, more 90s fashion-brained gang member. Nobody fucking trusts anyone without a significant display of power. Also no generation limits isn't as appaeling as you make it sound when nWoD vampires don't really get that many benefits from it anyway.

>>144095 Either the planet is dying or the ongoing conflict is beneath it but it's also batshit insane enough to approve of mass extinctions.

>>144098 >Here's a hard question for you, anon. >"Prove it" That's literally them begging to be forcefully embraced

>>144089 Could Illya milk beat Mr. KYN?

>>144095 Well, they are the main warriors of the werecreatures. They are better fighters than most other werecreatures and more numerous. Part of genociding the other werecreatures was making sure noone would be able to stand up against them. The werebears disappeared and everyone thought they had been genocided, the wereboars were certainly genocided, if there where were birds of prey they got genocided so hard they only get a passing mention in one book, the werecrocodiles and were big cats still don't have the numbers to fight back, the wereshark can't do much away from the coasts, and the rest of the were species just don't have enough fighting power to really do anything against a werewolf.

>Miyu, 2019: Master, I don't mind sharing a room with Illya. We'll be alright with just one bed. >Illya, 2025: Master-san! Separate beds, please!! >>144101 I haven't been following Argent's conversation about that; who's Kyn?

>>144102 What I'm getting from this and the previous conversation as a whole, is that I should make WereBorzois

>>144101 Fusing two ontologically evil eldritch abominations does not solve the problem, merely worsens it.

What did you do in One Piece?

>>144105 Illya Milk isn't ontologically evil. It is the most good thing that could possibly exist, a goodness far greater than base reality even! Won't you try some and see just how good it is to be Illya?

>>144107 The Old Man at the end of the Anima Mundi said this was a bad idea.

>>144108 Psssh, what does he know? A world of transcendent goodness is right there, just waiting for you to accept it into yourself! Drink the milk! Become Illya!

>>144106 Drop chemicals onto biological entities from high altitudes. Probably.

>>144105 That's not the question.

>>144106 The current plan is to introduce the Celestial Dragons to all my treasure, delivered at top speed to make sure they get what they deserve.

>>144111 Right! To be or not to be? That is the question.

>>144113 I choose 2B.

>>144106 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5P_AYwTr2A

>>144114 2B sucks tho.

>>144117 Yeah, sucks dick

>>144117 What do you suggest as a superior alternative then

>>144119 9S

>>144119 Tsunade (clingy stepmom)

>>144119 What >>144120 said but as a girl. 9S is the ONLY Android to show actual desire to interact with humans.

>>144122 >as a girl. Vastly inferior to him as a boy

What additional warcrimes would the Garou commit if I retroactively made them an entirely female species and also weak to headpats and ear rubs?

>>144121 how is biological human ninja wine mom medic (clingy stepmom) a viable alternative to sexy combat android... >>144120 >>144122 >hacker boy or girl hmm

>>144125 >how is biological human ninja wine mom medic (clingy stepmom) a viable alternative to sexy combat android... Women of any stripe are just for nutting inside of

>>144124 they're mentally ill freaks and they fuck dogs

>>144127 I recognize that way of talking shit

>>144124 You've essentially just made the Black Furies the entire species. They go extinct in less than a generation.

>>144129 ...Is that a bad thing? Also, whats a black fury?

>>144130 >Also, whats a black fury? NTA, but the all female species of Garou

>>144106 go to a better pirate setting

>>144130 no boys allowed clan

>>143854 Because you didn't released new harem jump in long time.

>>144131 fun fact: they used to ritually sacrifice any male children they had

>>144132 >Mocking PEAKPiece https://youtube.com/watch?v=IlZ-Lclu54E

My brain's stuck trying to decide on how extensive biomods can be before they stop counting as implants for Shadowrun Trilogy's Overclock perk. Like, would it be too much to wank that a Morph from Eclipse Phase would count as an implant, since they're literally just genetically engineered prosthetic bodies? Would being subjected to the Human Plus project in the original Armored Core, where an AI basically permanently integrates you into a mecha count as an implant? Would YOU be the implant in that case or would the mecha itself count as a prosthesis? I know it's definitely something I gotta decide for myself, but it's fucking annoying trying to balance my desire to be a smol child that's inexplicably 75% better in every way than they should be against my desire to not take overpowered bullshit early on

>>144137 Do you want my opinion?

>Have perks to befriend fairies >They start manipulating everyone to turn me into a Outer Demon God Why are they like this?

>>144138 I don't mind if you want to give it, but I'll probably ignore it if it doesn't match what I want.

>>144140 Only things implanted on your body count as implants. So morphs would not work since they count as bodies.