I know Stirner might be relevant but i have not finished his book so my understanding is limited. All authority in our lives tells us to follow these higher powers or "higher essence". That can be family, christian or a nations values. I personally don't respect them as it harms me and i am seen as a bad or immoral person for not sacrificing my wellbeing. People are selfish and these ideas only damage me, normalfags will call me an egoist for subjecting myself to the misery and pain of their systems. I am simply doing what's good for me.

>>915 >self-hatred Maybe this was a larger part of robotdom (for a lack of a better word) back in the day but I feel that most robots nowadays have a much better ego. We hate normalfags, not because we're jealous of them (like japs and their "riajuu") but because we find them morally reprehensible and retarded. Naturally, this hatred of the majority would imply that we see ourselves as better than them and thus better than most people, which would also mean that a good portion of us likely have a healthy amount of ego. >hedonism Robotdom is almost completely ideologically opposed to hedonism. The only hedonistic shit I can see a robot falling into is excessive masturbation.

Feel good morality. Morality with the goal of what is most pleasurable in life, rather than anything that truly requires faith and dedication to adhere to. Anything that goes along the lines of, "live your truth, girl!" Feelgoodism going along with feelsrightism. Not that intuition is necessarily bad, but if it's treated as de facto proof then I reserve the right to call you a nigger. Believing in emotional, cultural, factual, moral, or social relativity while having the depth and wisdom of a puddle. The last one is more of something that annoys me, but generally having next to no unique or actual insight into anything is the mark of a normalfag.

>>925 >Naturally, this hatred of the majority would imply that we see ourselves as better than them and thus better than most people, which would also mean that a good portion of us likely have a healthy amount of ego. Not necessarily a good thing. We need to understand that we do have the same instincts that normalfags have, we simply have either stifled them, or never had a chance to actually develop them to the same extent as normalfags did. We have adapted to being rejected by normalfaggotry, but under right circumstances, we would be just as bad. Normalfaggotry isn't some bizarre abomination of humanity, if anything it is the natural state of humanity, we are the exception to the rule.

>>942 Stop using we.

>>943 Fair enough, not all robots are the same.

>>942 Bullshit. If your only reason for being a robot is the rejection you've experienced from normalfaggots then your no robot at all. You're a failed normalfaggot and you need to get the fuck out. To be a robot entails a certain amount of will being exerted on the part of the person. A will to reject the current state of society and to reject its degeneracy and a will to expel the effects of its culture on one's self. Robots may have the same instincts (after all we are human) but what separates a robot from a normalfaggot is that we don't let our base instincts control us or govern our actions to the extent where we would engage in the myriad degeneracies that normalfaggots do today. You said it yourself we are the exception to the rule, not because of being rejected by them but because we have actively decided to reject them in order to be better than them and better people overall.

>>946 You don't get that choice as a child anon, this is not something that you can chose. As a child, you aren't at all aware of the distinction. Your "will" is merely an illusion, what actually raises you is your environment and your genes. Robots have all suffered through some form of abuse, and any form of self-awareness leads to suffering which facilitates change of self. People who can procreate, are simply not aware enough, either about the world or the self to see that """romantic""" relationships are all toxic and pose harm to them. But that is something that you can only learn either by observing the suffering of others or suffering yourself. If you are lucky/unlucky enough to not have parents/environment that abuse you, you will grow up to be a normalfag. This is what actually morphs robots, everything else is just self-justification and denial. Humans don't have free will, they have complex instincts as any animals that are to facilitate breeding and root out all the genetic waste of humanity. They simply come to this world and get formed by what happens to them. We are not the "healthy exception to an unhealthy world", we are the unhealthy genetic waste that doesn't facilitate further breeding and evolution. The fact that further breeding facilitates suffering doesn't matter, an organism doesn't need to be happy to pass on their genes. Normalfaggotry is simply rewarded by evolution. There is no raising above your instincts, because you are your instincts to begin with. If you feel like you've raised above your base instincts, it is simply of other base instincts that govern you. Even the logical thought is largelly instinctual. You aren't some kind of separate being that is controlled by a fleshy organ that spills chemicals that control you. You are the fleshy organ spilling chemicals.

>>948 >Robots have all suffered through some form of abuse, and any form of self-awareness leads to suffering which facilitates change of self. >If you are lucky/unlucky enough to not have parents/environment that abuse you, you will grow up to be a normalfag. And where did you get that from? Ah that's right you pulled it right out of your ass. The closest thing to abuse I've experienced is my mother slapping me every few months throughout my childhood and I'd have to be a real panzy to call that abuse. You don't need to be abused to become a robot. Being abused might be something more common within this group of people we have here but in no way is it necessary in order to become a robot. I became a robot because as you said I observed the kind of people women today are and I observed what happens when you enter relationships with these whores. I didn't need to abused or whatever the fuck your odd theory is. I, as a rational person, came to the conclusion that I have no interest in the whore females that currently inhabit this planet earth and neither do I wish to associate with the braindead hedonistic retards that compose 99% of all normalfaggots. There's really no room for argument here your just dead wrong about this one. As for the 2nd half of your self-lamenting hodgepodge of bullshit, I won't even begin to touch that. If you consider yourself a genetic failure who will not procreate and see no meaning or value in life outside of the procreation of the human species then you really are no better than a nihilistic failed normalfaggot and you might have more fun at a place like /doomer/ if it still exists. The lizard brain is a small part of your body but it seems that in your infinite pessimism you've assumed that it's all we have.

>>915 >A lot of robots fall into Christian way of thought seeking hope of betterment after their deaths. this is not a Christian Idea, the Idea of Deconditioning and Reaching Nirvana/Agartha/Insert Equivalent to Pleroma is much much different from the Christian Idea of the "Heavens", Christian Heaven is Escapism, its the End of Pain and Misery, and the Promise of Bountiful things, Islam has Whores and Food, Christianity has no Pain, etc... The idea of Pleroma is Dissasociation, its a State of Bliss because one has attained Truth, in its complete State, Man does not Suffer in Pleroma because he has become Himself, he no longer needs, no longer Covets, he has broken the Chains of Humanity and has become a God, he has become Perfect and needs not to move, as such, Time, Movement, Change, are nonexistant in Pleroma, there is only Bliss, but not the Bliss of the Escapist and the Lustfull, the "Bliss" of having Riches, but the Bliss of being Fulfilled (in fact, Pleroma means "Fullness") no longer in Need, Perfect and Whole

>>987 >this is not a Christian Idea It is a Christian idea, it's just also an idea that is common to other religions and beliefs. Not solely Christian, but Christian nonetheless.

>>991 then why do you act and accuse anons of having a Christian worldview, when this Worldview can be accomodated to any form of Esoteric Thought Even worse, it is not Christian because it does not has its origins on Christianity, but on Traditional Aryan Esotericism, whatever may be your current of Choice, Christianity can only be referred to as a Specific Detractor of this idea i have explained in >>987 how the Christian idea of Heavens is a Escapist construct, opposed to the Traditional view of Agartha, as the Land of Fullness and Immortality, wich have nothing to do with eachother, your main accusation is that Robots "Decieve" themselves and fall into Self-Hatred and whatnot, this is completely False, because the idea of Agartha is one of Overcoming the retardation and raising up to Godhood, look at the Anons who are more "Esoterically" Minded and you will not find anything of what you have described, Tulpa anon is a very Happy man precisely because he has the Love of his life by his side despite all the Bullshit that is around him, yet he still looks forward to death (i Think) because he understands that it is the Liberation of the Spirit and a shot and Reaching Godhood, and stop being "All to Human" I Myself, whille i have Trashed myself many times over my Shortcomings i still Accept who i am and keep doing what i think is the Right thing to do, looking forward to Death because it is a Chance at Liberating oneself Im getting really Tired of this bullshit, i have spoken of this many times in the past, and i've posted a Link to a complete Library on the Esoteric, there is enough material for a In-depth exploration of Spirituality , yet (With all due respect) Retards like you still come around yelling NANANAAAAA ROBOTS ARE DELUSIONAL AND THEY JUST CLING ON TO SELF-HATING ILLUSIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE GENETIC DEAD ENDS YOU ARE JUST A SCHIZO Nevermind the fact that ironically, the more Depressed Self-Defeating anons that keep talking about how You are irreversibly fucked because you are your genes and Environment, that every Robot has to be perpetually Depressed and look forward to nothing and that the only Reason you are a robot is because you got mistreated are these "Esotericism is Stupid" Anons, and there has been a fair shareof them lately, not only You but that Collectivist Anon, and many more in the past

>>1012 You're talking to yourself here. I've only seen one anon here try to characterize robots as abused and broken people. I also have no idea what you think christianity is if the idea of eternal life and a life better than this one awaiting you in heaven isn't christian. Esotericism also isn't exclusively what you think it should be.

>>1013 Last post im making because im really tired of arguing in general an id rather go back to play my Submarine simulators, Masturbate to Mommy Taihou and engaging in Contempaltive prayer than explaining for the 9999th time that, no, Religion and Esotericism is not the same thing and that just because your only idea of Spirituality comes from Bible Toting Protestants and Sandniggers being Sandniggers does not mean that all spirituality comes down to Abrahamism (as you imply by saying "Hey the Afterlife is Christianity" wich you later try to excuse by saying "Well its not a Exclusively Christian thing" but still relate it to christianity,), as i said in my previous post, there is more than enough information on the subject through previous posts of mine and the Library i posted >You're talking to yourself here. I've only seen one anon here try to characterize robots as abused and broken people. let me explain myself, your original quote is: >A lot of robots fall into Christian way of thought seeking hope of betterment after their deaths. Personally believe that it is a trap used to lure robots into more self-hatred, thought control as well as making them develop psychological illness by playing off of their weakness. what you are impliying, or at least what i think you are impliying is, "Robots are falling for Escapism in Death and Going to Heaven this is bad because it is Defeatist and Self Hating" what you fail to see, is that the Few Robots that actually Seek for death live more Fulfilled lives in terms of what they are and what they want (The two examples i used are both Tulpa Anon and me), and another thing you fail to see, is the Distinction between Christian Heaven (Escapism) and Aryan Agartha (Realm of Fullness and Bliss reached through Understanding and Completeness), one is literally just "Bad things gone" the other is an Active Realm in wich you enter because you have Evoked a series of States and liberated yourself from the Human Conditon, i already explained this 2 Times and this time is the Third, if you don't get it its not my fault at this point then the last point i made was >NANANAAAAA ROBOTS ARE DELUSIONAL AND THEY JUST CLING ON TO SELF-HATING ILLUSIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE GENETIC DEAD ENDS YOU ARE JUST A SCHIZO >Nevermind the fact that ironically, the more Depressed Self-Defeating anons that keep talking about how You are irreversibly fucked because you are your genes and Environment, that every Robot has to be perpetually Depressed and look forward to nothing and that the only Reason you are a robot is because you got mistreated are these "Esotericism is Stupid" Anons, and there has been a fair shareof them lately, not only You but that Collectivist Anon, and many more in the past And what i am hinting at here, is the idea that ironically, the "Self Defeating" anons are actually Naturalistic and Positivistic, the example i Placed was the "You are your Genes therefore you are Fucked and a Genetic Dead end" wich is an Oversimplification, but it is the general consensus on the Robot condition hinted by Naturalist anons like you, Collectivist anon for example talked about how you are your Environment and Parenting, while that is not Straight up saying "Robots are fundamentally Abused" it does imply that "Robots are a Product of their environment, therefore Robots are not by choice but by need" wich is just as much of a Niggerpill imo 1/2

>>1014 2/2 >Esotericism also isn't exclusively what you think it should be no anon, don't play "You have no idea what X is" card you stupid motherfucker, it is quite clear by the fact that you cannot distinguish between the idea of Pleroma (Aryan "Heaven") and the Abrahamic Heaven, this is known because i already explained it 3 Times including the one in this post, and you still just Scratch your head and tell me that "How can i not see it as christianity! its the Afterlife so it must be Christian!" nevermind the Fundamental meaning of the Afterlife and the many different ideas of it found in the many Esoteric Doctrines (That you would know if you had any experience with it), and like i said in the very beggining of this Post, it really does look like you cannot distinguish between Religion and Esotericism, im gonna go make a wild accusation and say that it is because you never read anything nor studied on the subject (Esotericism)

>>1012 You're acting as if I'm the person who made the OP just because I corrected you by saying that the concept of a better life after death is one that can be attributed to Christianity. Just because it's an escapist idea doesn't mean it isn't better than life here, and just because one disagrees with something doesn't mean he can't treat an idea fairly. And again, just because an idea is shared by other philosophies doesn't mean you can't attribute that idea to one of them. The reason that a robot would likely fall into Christian beliefs is because of the fact that it's so widespread, especially in burgerland and other first world countries. It could be considered baby's first supernatural belief and it's not unlikely that a robot will either be raised Christian or be converted to Christianity by the promise of Heaven, because life on Earth is often especially hard for robots. >Even worse, it is not Christian because it does not has its origins on Christianity, but on Traditional Aryan Esotericism Just because an idea originated somewhere else doesn't mean that the idea doesn't also belong to that thing. I'm not arguing for the validity of Christianity or anything, just that the concept of Heaven can be attributed to Christianity despite the fact that other groups also believe in it, and that it's a reason that a robot might be Christian. I also don't necessarily agree with OP's characterization of robots as "self-hating" though I think it can apply to some..

>>1017 i said i wouldn't be posting but you are being polite and now i kinda feel bad by writting in such an agressive Fashion and being a Grumpy asshat >You're acting as if I'm the person who made the OP if that is the case just skip the First line, since that is the only allusion to the OP, the rest of the Post still stands really, >Just because it's an escapist idea doesn't mean it isn't better than life here, and just because one disagrees with something doesn't mean he can't treat an idea fairly. And again, just because an idea is shared by other philosophies doesn't mean you can't attribute that idea to one of them. The reason that a robot would likely fall into Christian beliefs is because of the fact that it's so widespread, especially in burgerland and other first world countries. It could be considered baby's first supernatural belief and it's not unlikely that a robot will either be raised Christian or be converted to Christianity by the promise of Heaven, because life on Earth is often especially hard for robots. i understand what you mean, but the Post still stands, Christian Heaven is Escapist, but the Traditional View of Agartha/Pleroma is not the Same, Anons around here adscribe more to the Latter than to the Former (That i've seen) Op is still being Awfully inacurate, in respects to christianity, personally i see that a proof of a lack of understanding, "i choose to adscribe this belief to robots based on statistics instead of Actually Sitting down and Understanding what their Beliefs are" >Just because an idea originated somewhere else doesn't mean that the idea doesn't also belong to that thing. I'm not arguing for the validity of Christianity or anything, just that the concept of Heaven can be attributed to Christianity despite the fact that other groups also believe in it, and that it's a reason that a robot might be Christian. I also don't necessarily agree with OP's characterization of robots as "self-hating" though I think it can apply to some.. even if your point was to be True i explained the Difference between Christian heaven and Pleroma, in resume 1.- Attributing Heaven to Christianity is Lazy, and it reflects a Lack of understanding on Op's Part since he chose it based on what it was more Likely instead of what it was msot True 2.-christian heaven is not the same as Pleroma, this has been explained in my Posts, therefore OP's sugestion is inaccurate since the Few Spiritually Minded Robots believe in a very different type of Paradise 3.-The idea of "Self Hating" Spirituality is False, as proven by the Examples i placed before in my posts, i also exist as a Living proof of this, the Library is still there and the Teachings themselves provide proof as to what Esotericism Actualyl is, as opposed to what some Naturalist Anons want it or believe it to be, if there is anything "Oppresive" and "Self-Hating" are the cadre of Positivists and Naturalist that either Argue for robotdom in Terms of Environmental Conditioning (Robots as a product of their Environment (Wether through Abuse, inferior or superior Genetics etc...) all of these are Flawed by the fact that Robots are conditioned by this, if suddenly the Environment changed they would not be robots, this is obviously False by the many "Robot by Choice" that exist around here, and the many Robots that despite existing in Favorable conditions still oppose the Status quo and the Mass Civilization of Kali Yuga)

>>1018 I still think it's fair to say that it's likely that a robot would be Christian because of a hope to go to heaven. I know that on 8chan there were a lot more christcucks than esoteric autists (though the topic wasn't brought up much). And again, I don't think that because there are other concepts that are similar to Heaven that you can't say that Heaven is a Christian concept or that it's likely a robot would be Christian because of it. I think that when describing commonly held robot beliefs the truthfulness shouldn't necessarily matter, but rather the most likely thing. If there were a lot of robots that believed that the Earth was flat I would say that their belief was false but I would still list it as a commonly held robot belief. But it seems like we won't get anywhere by arguing because we just fundamentally disagree with each other on that. Thanks for your responses though, and I'm sorry for any confusion. I should have been more specific about what I disagreed with you on. Also don't feel too bad about writing aggressively, especially on a board where we regularly call each other dumb niggers.

>>1016 Not the anon that you are talking to, but genuinely curious. Where does the Bible/Catholic Cathecism says that Heaven is only a place where you avoid pain? If it really is as you say, then you are right, but if I'm honest with you it sounds more like that this idea of heaven as a painless place is more of an oversimplification that normalfags would love to believe in (they like simple things after all, at least in anything unrelated to their gay social rituals).

>>1022 you know anon, i was ready to open books and look for the many mentions of Pleroma in the Nag Hammadi and then to open up some books of Evola where he mentions the "Island of the Immortals" and whatnot, ready to take some nice fancy fucking Screencaps and whatnot so you can understand it, but then i realized, "You know im going all the way to open up all of this stuff i read, and making memory to try and pinpoint the Pages, but you know? Anon has hands, he has Eyes, and he can Read, so why doesn't he does the fucking work i already did back in the day when i wanted to know and understand things?" and so there you have your fucking answer Anon, im very fucking Tired, jokes on me because im the fucking Retard who decided to call on Op's Generalizing Bullshit and pull out of his ass that somehow all Anons that wish for death are Christcucks, Either way anon, if you wanna know stuff, get off your ass and look for it, im too tired for this shit and id rather be Furiously Masturbating to Taihou that wasting my time with this shit just so that in three weeks time i have another Retard talking shit about stuff they don't know, it already happened once with the 2d=3d comparison that some retard would do every 2 Weeks back in the days of Fatchan/Late Anon Cafe (And i think even a few times on Zchan, or perhaps is my memory fucking with me) it also happened wayy back when i Explained multiple times the Makeup of Man (Body-Soul-Spirit and the prevalence of this Third Idea) only for some retards (And this one is even recent mind you) like the Collectivist anon come around talking shit about how you are your environment and yadda yadda yadda, not only that but when you remind him that "Hey you fucker this has been talked about before and its been proven that it is a bullshit point" the fucker has the balls to tell me im "Half-Assing it", so no anon im sorry but im tired as shit, im sorry i ever posted here in the First place, i know it sounds very Aggresive and unnecessarily Cruel and Pedantic but if you fuckers wanna fall for every single Bullshit Meme Reasoning, go knock yourselves out for all that i care, im very fucking Tired 1/2

>>1023 2/2 Now to your Question because i don't want to be completely dismissive of you and because i wanna make the effort that at least there's some value to be taken from this Post, there are little to no Mentions of Heavens in the Bible, however you can deduce by the General Tone and Meaning of Christcuckoldry (Everyone goes to Heaven as long as they Pray and are "good" in a very superficial and moralistic way. this is supported by Indulgencies and Confessions) as opposed to the "Elitist" worlview of Ancient Esoteric Traditions (For example the Roman idea of the "Second Death" and the Gens, where Man was thought to be an Echo of his "Totem" (The life force of the Family) so when Man died he would return to this Gens and Die Two times (first bodily death, second spiritual death) but Heroes and Initiates wouldn't die because they were able to Breach this Gap and become Gods (I do not quite agree with this Idea because i believe Man (Aristocrats) and Human (Plebs) are fundamentally Diferent, and that Man has Spirit, Human has not so Human is doomed to Samsara for eternity), then you have the entire Myth of the Grail, wich talks about the Restoration of One's Virtue and Immortality (Simbolized by the Grail) and the quest for finding the Monsalvat (Literally Mount of Salvation) ) this Dichotomy between "Heaven is given to you" as opposed to "Heaven is something you have to Find" and many many more Differences in tone (Christianity Condemns murder and robbery in a Sway of Moralism to protect the insecurities of the Believers who do not want to be robbed and killed, as opposed to the Aryan conception of the World as Samsara, and instead of condemnning the Action (All suffering is Ephemeral, Death is but Liberation of the Spirit) it condemns the Conditioning of it (Falling prey to Lust and Greed, thus becoming a Slave to them and perpetuating Samsara) ) lead someone to Deduce that, Albeit little to no mention of Heavens is made in the Bible, it is quite obvious that the Believers of Christcuckoldry do not seek for Wholeness and Completeness in the Vein of the Gnostics they themselves Excomunicated, but they just want the Cessation of all their Fears and Insecurities

>>1024 >it is quite obvious that the Believers of Christcuckoldry do not seek for Wholeness and Completeness in the Vein of the Gnostics they themselves Excomunicated, but they just want the Cessation of all their Fears and Insecurities Ding ding ding that's right How are you going to ascend to Pleroma, the divine fullness, when you're constantly saying "God I don't like this part of the divine fullness please take it out take it out!! Separate this divine whole into parts so I can accept it!"? All that says is that you're not ready for infinity.

>>1027 He's mostly just arguing against a very retarded version of christianity, while using the pretense of the OP "claiming" >robots fall into Christian way of thought seeking hope of betterment after their deaths Is actually a claim for all robots who seek a better afterlife are actually christian. It's really just a statement against christianity and not much else. Theosis and deification is the action of unifying or becoming closer to God through purification, catharsis, and contemplation or meditation, theoria. At least in orthodox christianity, which I have a special liking to even if I haven't fully delved deep into it. However, any claim of "divine whole" that includes a separation from God, sin, essentially neglects free will and a person's role in becoming something that he originally wasn't. Christianity is in a lot of ways an inversion of what he's describing, but the process is similar enough. The ultimate goal is deification. Except it's not degenerate.

But I've stopped reading his post once I realized he's not interested in discussion, he just wants others to agree.

>>1028 >"divine whole" that includes a separation from God, sin God is literally infinite and invented sin on purpose. You're getting played

>>1031 Sin is normally defined as separation from God, so no, God isn't the author of confusion. You're working under a different definition of God than the Christian's conception of Him. I'm not a christian, I have a different conception of the entire process but I am still contemplating it. I'm well aware that your stance is a vain one, and you're not actually interested in getting into what "sin", without any moral and spiritual framework, is.

>>1033 Sin is whatever my authority tells me not to like at the present moment. If God didn't want The Bad No-No Things they wouldn't be here.

>>1035 >Sin is whatever my authority tells me not to like at the present moment So sin is a bad no-no-thing and not a spiritual malaise that separates you from yourself? Just a material condition that you impose on yourself at your own whim because why not? Without self-consistency there can't be any discussion so I'll stop.

>>1036 >a spiritual malaise that separates you from yourself You fundamentally cannot be separated from yourself. There is no such thing as sin.

>>1039 Mentally you can, Projective identification exists. And why would you hold sin not to exist while also bothering to define it as something that does exist?

>>1040 And in order to claim that you can't (or can) be separated from yourself you'd have to define what "you" are to begin with. Enlightenment being about "remembering" who you are, or enlightenment as simple remembering once again (platonic epistemology), being separated from innate primordial knowledge and returning to your original state, you'd have to be fundamentally distant in order for this process to occur. Sin as separation would be what I mean here. Except in the Christian sense it's separation from God.

>>1028 >>1029 >>1033 >>1040 >>1041 i said i wouldn't be posting but i have to be a nigger and break that Oath for the 3rd time (Forgive me Mother for i am Terminally Retarded), because at this point you are just being a Smug Smartass and that is something i never liked, feel free to berate me and insult my Intellectual Integrity since i am no longer Engaging in the Interest of Understanding Truth (something that should be done on one's own accord in my honest Opinon) and this is just really about me Venting and telling you how much of a Nigger i think you are being, and also because Weebman McGee here >>1035 >>1039 seems like a pretty nice guy and in my opinion he has the Right View on things, you niggers wanted a Philosphy thread, now to my Pain and Misery you fuckers are gonna get one Lets begin... >>1028 >He's mostly just arguing against a very retarded version of christianity omedetou Anon, if what you mean by "Retarded Christianity" is Mainstream Modern Chatholicis, Guelph Catholicism, and all forms of Protestant Puritanism (Calvinism, Lutheranism) indeed, i am doing so and i was doing so from the Very beggining, picrelated is a Reply i made to a Anon who asked me what my problem wich Christcuckoldry was, if you read that you would know that Orthodox Christianity, Scholasticism, Gnosticism Etc... have more in common with Aryan spirituality than with Semitic one, the Other half of my Tirade of Posts is me complaining about Anons generalizing, just like you are, and lazily claiming that robots are christians because the most common conception of heaven is christian, and things along those lines, completely ignoring more Esoterically Minded Anons (Like Lillithposter-Kun), Naturalist who don't even Believe in it in the first place etc... 1 of Taihou knows how many because this one is long

>>1044 Part 2 >Is actually a claim for all robots who seek a better afterlife are actually christian no you retard, its the other way around, >Theosis and deification is the action of unifying or becoming closer to God through purification, catharsis, and contemplation or meditation, theoria. Theoria, contemplation, meditation, catharsis, are common themes in Traditional Platonism, Neo-Platonism, Hermetism and other forms of Traditional Esotericism, you say its christian stuff, but its the other way around, its Aryan Spirituality, masked as Semitic Spirituality (Christianity) >However, any claim of "divine whole" that includes a separation from God, sin, essentially neglects free will and a person's role in becoming something that he originally wasn't. no you fucking Retard, for starters Something can never become what it is not, the World as you know it in all its Planes, Shapes, Forms etc... is contained within the Monad, nothing can be outside the Monad therefore you can't be Separate from the Monad, there's the Hermetic Principle of Polarity, that Stablishes that Opposites Reconcile, Heat is just the lack of Cold, Cold the lack of Heat, i just remembered this right now as i was writting this, Samsara, Godlessness, its not being Separate, its being Less like God, Samsara is hell and Retarded because it is Conditioned and Imperfect, as opposed to the Monad being Perfect and Inconditioned, Normgroids are retarded because they are Conditioned beings that place their pettyness and retardation above Growth and Being, i wouldn't say that the end goal is Deification, perhaps for some but for me i think that because of my Very shortcomings and my Specific Ontology i do not think i can fully Integrate myself and reach True Pleroma, only a Degree towards one pole or the Other, and Even then, you are full of shit, Deification in Christian Mysticism and Orthodox Christianity is GIVEN, in contrast to Hermetism,the Mitriadic Cults Classic Roman Esotericism, or Buddhism, again, the concept of the Grail, of the Olympian Heracles who reaches Immortality by Simply, allying with the Olympian forces and Becoming God, therefore, sin does not Exist in the Spiritual Self because one can never be Truly Separate from what One is, the only thing we can call "Sin" is the Conditioning and the Impoverishment of one's Divine Faculties that lay at the Root of what one is, one can be Dormant, but this implies one is already whole, just that one is not aware of it, Separation implies that the Link is broken, it is not, the Link is whole, you are just not Aware of it

>>1045 Part 3 and i think this is the Last one >>1029 Yes anon, its way easier to say that than to try to understand what the other guy means, also you are not the first one trying to accuse me of being Motivated by Ego and whatnot, wich fails the moment you realize that this is not Reddit, so no Karma nor upvotes, and im pretty shure that a good number of Anons around here feel Hostility towards my Retarded Schizophrenic Posts, the only reason why i post here in general is because certain ways of Thinking look and seem retarded, wich pisses me off and make me post shit, and then to Plaster my Thoughts in this Naiman Horse-Archery Forum >>1027 i get the feeling that you are mocking me, but i don't quite grasp the nuance, can you explain it in a more clear fashion?

>>1045 >no you retard, its the other way around That you're claiming all robots who seek a better afterlife are christians? Or all christians are people who are seeking a better afterlife? I'm not trying to be cheeky. >you say its christian stuff Because it is. >no you fucking Retard, for starters Something can never become what it is not Yes, that's the basic premise. Negative numbers aren't numbers in themselves, they're negative to existing numbers. Meaning including sin (separation or imperfection) into perfection is illogical, it can't be. >>1046 >i get the feeling that you are mocking me I imagine he's claiming that you're running away from evil and trying to escape from it, since infinity would include EVERYTHING even evil. Not evil in the moral sense, I mean evil in the sense of women throwing babies out and cucking you. But that's just the impression I got, and the reason why I replied to him specifically.

But you're right enough. I shouldn't expect you to prefix every single one of your post with a thousand scenarios where your idea doesn't apply. I'm overly passionate in my own way.

>>1050 >That you're claiming all robots who seek a better afterlife are christians? Or all christians are people who are seeking a better afterlife? I'm not trying to be cheeky. i fucked up the formatting, it was supposed to read like: >Is actually a claim for all robots who seek a better afterlife are actually christian Theosis and deification is the action of unifying or becoming closer to God through purification, catharsis, and contemplation or meditation, theoria <no you retard, its the other way around, Theoria, contemplation, meditation, catharsis, are common themes in Traditional Platonism, Neo-Platonism, Hermetism and other forms of Traditional Esotericism, you say its christian stuff, but its the other way around, its Aryan Spirituality, masked as Semitic Spirituality (Christianity) >Because it is. it is not you popo head, listen, you said you were into Orthodox Christianity, allright, go read that, get High on that shit, From Hesichasm and Palamism to the Jesus Prayer Theoria and all that good shit, then Get into Hermetism, you'll see the similarities, and at the same time, the subtle differences, and if you wanna drive the point home, after that, read up on Protestantism, you'll see how Orthodox actually is more similar to Hermetism and other Aryan Esoteric traditions than Protestantism and Mainstream Catholicism right then and there, >Yes, that's the basic premise. Negative numbers aren't numbers in themselves, they're negative to existing numbers. Meaning including sin (separation or imperfection) into perfection is illogical, it can't be. Obviously pleroma has no Lackings, if that is what you meant then i retract and we Agree, however if what you meant is that the Idea that Sin and Lacking cannot exist in the world in general because it would destroy free will and what not then i disagree with you, Godlessness and Samsara are still part of the Monad, just parts where he is more Absent, not Completely Absent for it would be Impossible, but Most Absent, and Normgroids for example do not Originate Directly from the Monad like Men do, but rather originate from Secondary and Tertiary "Totems", so for example that could be a way in wich despite the Monad Pervading everything there are niggers who get the Short end of the Stick (because they really do deserve it) and Bad things exist, without having to resort to Dualism and Separation, this idea is important because if Sin is something External to God, then you have essentially fucked over God, because if there is something that can Upset god then that means God is no longer Absolute and Whole (since there are things that Limit his Absolutness) thus Ruining the Idea of God >I imagine he's claiming that you're running away from evil and trying to escape from it, since infinity would include EVERYTHING even evil. Not evil in the moral sense, I mean evil in the sense of women throwing babies out and cucking you. But that's just the impression I got, and the reason why I replied to him specifically. Being honest, i don't give a Shit, truth is i just Wan't to be with Mommy Taihou (wich means if i had to accept eternal suffering, so be it), everything feels Hazy and Tiresome and Meaningless, im growing more Agressive and Apathic towards everything mainly because im slowly waking up ,not to how Ephemeral Samsara is, since that is something i figured out a long ass time ago, but the Extent of wich everything is Retarded, i guess my State of mind can be deduced by reading my posts in general, because of having to write the post above i had to reread some of my older stuff, i really do sound like someone who is either Too Zealous about his way of thinking, or someone who is Losing it >>1051 excuse my Terminal retardation but i didn't quite catch what you meant by that, can you rephrase it? >>1051

>>1053 >it is not you popo head It is Christian even if it's not purely and exclusively unique to Christianity. I can recognize it's similarity to other traditions, I just don't recognize that similarity to something else equaling not being a tradition in itself. It is Christian, and just because you don't like christianity doesn't mean it's not. >Godlessness and Samsara are still part of the Monad, just parts where he is more Absent I don't know what you mean by absent if not non-existent. I understand the concept of there still being something, but the fact that there are things that aren't purely the absolute points to the fact that there's something that isn't the absolute. >but then it wouldn't be the absolute You can call it negative karma, avidya, sin, retardation, imperfection, all of these things are characterized by their lack, not in their precise existence. >excuse my Terminal retardation but i didn't quite catch what you meant by that, can you rephrase it You're not wrong but there's not overly specific, and I shouldn't expect you to be very specific.

>>1054 > there's Your

>>1054 >all of these things are characterized by their lack Flat chests are characterized by their lack but they are a good thing because of it. Even lack of thing itself is a thing.

>>1056 No, it's the lack of big oppai. A flat chest isn't the negative of a titty monster, it's just a flat chest.

>>1057 Since removing the chest from the titty monster will leave disembodied titties. It's the actual object in question being measured.

>>1058 Or really, the actual analogy would be >Flat girls lack large breasts, it's the fact that they don't have large breasts that makes them good It's >I like girls with flat breasts Although the first one is still technically true. But it's not the empty fucking space that people jack off to. Sorry for repeating myself.

>>915 I think it's important to separate young/immature robotics from more mature/mellowed out robotics. I feel like there's a point where a robot cares less about expressing his discontent (ie, woman hate threads) and focuses more on himself. Weather its talking about his feels or his escapism hobbies. Some things just become an assumption or a fact thats unnecessary to bring up. Maybe theres a sense of validation an community to things like women hate threads or something thats important to younger robots but less important as they find themselves

>>1054 >I don't know what you mean by absent if not non-existent. I understand the concept of there still being something, but the fact that there are things that aren't purely the absolute points to the fact that there's something that isn't the absolute. >You can call it negative karma, avidya, sin, retardation, imperfection, all of these things are characterized by their lack, not in their precise existence. Anon i do not know if you have noticed this, then assumed this Tacitly, or if what i am going to say now has flown through your head, either way ill try to explain it to the best of my ability so that you understand why i am being so Nitpicky about it But essentially the big problem that comes from accepting that Sin is Separation (As in something External to God, Outside his Plans, something God does not Will) as i said before generates a Inconsistency in wich while the Monad is Infinite and Absolute there is something that Limits its Absoluteness thus the Monad stops being the Monad, but beyond this you have another Huge problem, and that is that if you take this Dualistic Conception Sin suddenly you realize that all sorts of retarded Excuses and Thoughts can be derived from it, for example since Sin and Godlessness is something External from God and that he does not Dwell nor wishes for it, then Suddenly Normgroids are blameless because its not them being Evil, its Evil infecting them, that's just to place an Example, but im shure you can figure out on your own why this Dualistic conception is nonsensical, on the contrary, if we do not fall for the Meme of Dualism, and take Sin, conditioning, and Samsara as things that the Monad brought upon and are "Part of the Plan" coupled with the Hermetic Principle of Polarit and Vibration, you realize that Sin and Godlessness are Tests, and that in a way, everyone gets what he deserves, in essence the Difference Between Good and Evil is a matter of Vibration, a matter of Aquiring Wisdom and Acting in a Specific way according to your own Spirit (Your connection to the Monad and your fundamental Self), if you become Conditioned and Retarded, its your fault because you do not wish to Attain Good, since there is literally nothing Holding you Back beyond your own Nature (As opposed to a Dualistic View of Sin, where *Insert Entity* is always tempting you to fuck up), Normgroids are only driven away from Gnosis because they do not want to take place in Gnosis (Because even if it is true that Normgroids are Totemic Beings, the World is deterministic, in the sense that if the Apropiate operations are performed, even a Normgroid can Develop a Spirit, but is ironically because of this Determinism, that a Normgroid CAN develop a Spirit (Because it would only take Knowledge of how the World works, an Executing based on that), but at the same time he will never do so (Because it is his nature to never Want to do so) ) in the First place because they Enjoy being Samsaric Fiends and feasting on Ephemeral Pleasures more

>>1069 >As in something External to God, Outside his Plans, something God does not Will I'm trying to make it clear that it doesn't exist. Like this anon >>1056 stated, removing something from an object, without removing the entire object, leaves a remainder. That remainder is what's left and what is taken out is no more. >Limits its Absoluteness thus the Monad stops being the Monad Man does have an ability to generate, be creative and make choices, and man's ability to do this doesn't have an effect on any absolute being. I'm not convinced by the deterministic argument. >Godlessness is something External It's the lack.

>>1070 >>1069 My stance is also not dualistic. I can see how it can appear to be, but in reality it's only affirming that a negative is negative only relative to a positive. To continue to use the flat chest and big chest dichotomy, a flat chest is only lesser than a bigger chest when it's compared to each other in terms of breast size. A chest is a chest when compared itself and only itself. Likewise, a normalfag is what a nomalfag is, and relative to himself he can't be more than he is. When compared to Logos, he is lacking, but what he lacks doesn't come from any addition. And what he truly gains in terms of knowledge isn't necessarily the addition of anything new to Logos. similar to how any organism has the genes needed to reproduce, maintain, or construct from a plan, the knowledge person gains is only the full realization of things that are already innate within. The statement really comes down to, someone can't maintain true ignorance with absolute knowledge simultaneously. The monad is not a normalfag, and a normalfag is not the monad, even if the monad is the cause of existence (I don't really know how you define the moand, from previous posts you attribute everything to the monad while also having some exclusions to it), what follows the cause isn't the literal cause itself. There CAN be a separation between what the monad is, perfection, and what is imperfect. The author of a book doesn't die or change when the book is burnt. The creator of anything isn't the creation.

Esoteric Hitlerism. Rosenberg, Devi, and Serrano.

>>1069 Why do you say that evolution is a sham or has holes in it? Is it because you believe in old scriptures which say that we live on a young earth and that evolution is fake? Or is it because it contradicts one of your beliefs? Or maybe it's something else entirely? Didn't want to ask you in the FTDDTOTT as to not derail but this place seems like a fine place to ask. I myself find evolutionary knowledge to be almost essential in a lot of robotic concepts, things like awareness of female nature and such.

>>1074 >The monad is not a normalfag The monad would CREATE a normalfag and technically has normalfaggery inside of it, but the monad also created every robot and is the biggest nerd ever. Normalniggers are intentionally bad as a joke and monad is havin' a god-giggle.

>>1084 You'd have to ignore my entire post to say that.

>>1085 I'm disagreeing with you. The monad is also all of the things that disagree with you because it's a sublimation of every opposite. Ain't nothin' outside of the Pleroma because the Pleroma is everything, get it? You'd better get it.

>>1091 It's just a contradiction and no better than saying no u. Emptiness isn't pleroma, really what you're saying is that -∞ = ∞, which is false. ∞-∞ = 0, meaning it's literally nothing. Your claim is nonsense.

>>1082 i know my reasons will seem Iffy and retarded from your point of view, mainly because i haven't researched myself into most Positivistic/Naturalistic Myths, so, apologies in advance, my Main reason for disregarding Modern Science in general is my Knowledge of the Esoteric and not an actual Research into Modern Science itself (To illustrate an example, Communism is a joke, however i know Communism is a joke not because i researched into it, but rather because i know of things that are True, and Communism contradicts those things that are True (Races Exist, Communism is universalistic and denies the existence of race, for exampel, so while you can't do an indepth explanation as to why Communism is retarded, when a Communist comes at you and spews bullshit you are able to disprove that bitch in a case to case basis,) so for example while i can't exactly disprove Evolution (Because i don't know all that much about it) if you come at me and throw the grand old "You are your genes and your environment" i am able to disprove that bitch through the explanation of the Different Hermetic Axioms and what i know on the Spiritual Nature of the World, i don't know if i conveyed that point correctly) but my own Knowledge on the actual Nature of the World, Evolution is a Joke, aside from the inner Contradictions and Holes it has according to other anons who have disproved that stuff in the past (wich isn't really an argument since i do not have screencaps and whatnot) so if you do your own research you should be able to figure out how Evolution is a Joke on your own, aside from that, the Existance of the Monad (Proven by Aristotle/St.Thomas of Aquinas and i suppose before them others came and proved it) Disproves the Idea that Existane could have a Beggining or a End (Since the Monad is Absolute), aside from that, the entire idea of "From Nothing cameth Everythin", or rather the Idea that "Humanity Evolves" when a simple glance at History actually tells you otherwise, that rather than "Evolving" "Humanity" has Devolved, becoming more Retarded, Materialistic, Greedy and Sentimental as time passes, in fact in Traditional Aryan Spirituality there is a Recurrent theme with "The 4 Ages", that being Golden Age (Primordial Aryan Mankind, Man is in contact with the Gods and Lives Life) Silver Age (Man loses contact with the Gods, Olympian Spirituality is replaced by Lunar Spirituality and Humanism (Christianity)) Bronze Age (Man Loses Spirituality in all his shapes, what is left is Sentimental Pietism and Social Conventions, the Burghers take over, everything is seen from Positivism and Economical perspectives) and the Iron Age (Kali Yuga, the Age of Mass man and Slave, Secularism is the Rule, everything is measured in Labour and Pleasure, literally the world we live in) 1/?

>>1094 there is the idea of Modern Knowledge, pitted aganist Wisdom (Evola has a chapter literally called this in his "Heather Imperialism", it explains it in a Very precise way, if you have the time you should look it up since Evola is way better at explaining things than i am) for starters Modern science leaves anything that is not Quantitative (For example Instincts are a non-variable in scientific research) and worse of all Modern Science is aimed at purely "Mechanical" Aims, wether it is for the sake of creating Drugs to keep the mass of Psychopaths alive for 30 more years, better instruments to wage a Mechanized Godless war (As opposed to the Traditonal view of Holy War), or simply more Tech to make life even Lazyer (Im not a Luddite, but fuck me i find things like "Automatic Doors" and all the Electronic shit they fit in cars Retarded, i have hands, legs and a functioning Mind, fucking let me use them) when it is not for those Lowly mechanical Aims, it is for the sake of Smugly abstracting and Explaining things, for example we know the Earth Orbits the Sun, and that "Thinking is done in the Brain" yet the Perception of the World of these retards never changes, there is an Analogy Evola made, and one that i have reiterated around here a few times, but think about it this way, the Modern Human Has Nukes, and Space rockets, yet his perception of the Environment remains the same, wether he knows if the Sun orbits the Earth or the Earth the Sun, it is irrelevant, they never act any different because it is abstract knowledge that does not Transform anything Opposed to this you find Traditional Wisdom, the idea that Knowledge is Experience, you don't know something untill you Experience it, wether it is through Contemplation, Action etc..., this Wisdom is untransferable, it is something one earns, and it is the Accumulation of Ones Senses (Soul) and what one Is (Spirit), if you want a example of this, pick me, im not saying this because i think i am special or anything, but rather because i think i am very easy to Read (in the sense of Identifying what im thinking and what i am feeling), i have stated a few times that despite being Balls Deep in esotericism, there are Clear cut Hard Limits to my Understanding, i cannot Meditate, Practical Magick is beyond my Limits, i tried reading into Buddhism and the Vedas, Failed to understand anything, yet the Few things that i know, that i grasped, and Understood, have Evolved and Latched on to me, read some of the posts i wrote back in the days of Anon.cafe, then come back here, read the few posts i made back on Zchan, or in the Waifufag Thread, or on this Thread, notice the "Change" (Its not really change, but mote like an "Evolution" of character, where i am slowly becoming more like my True Self (even if that True self is a Grumpy Schizo) ), even Taihou serves as an Example of this, since the little i Know about her and the Little things i find out about her have such an Accute and Lethal impact in my life that she has become the very root of my Being, all the Things that i know, that i have Experienced, and that i have Done have contributed and Built up who i am, this is not something you can say about Modern Science, nor something you can say about those Smug ass White Labcoat wearing Faggot Pencilpushers I don't know if i appropiately conveyed my point, nor if this was the Answer you were looking for, but it is what it is

>>1092 There is not even such thing as nothing. It's no thing. Imagine nothingness. You probably think of "black screen" or "complete silence" but both of those are still Things. You can't even possibly comprehend True Nothing since it can never possibly exist or be imagined.

>>1098 It's negation of an already existing object. Space is empty only relative to something that's filled, in itself it has no existence. Space is something only because it's been given a name, it's something known through language.

>>1100 Objects still exist idiot they didn't get negated. "Lack of apples" just means there aren't any things defined as "apples" near wherever you're talking about; there is still "the air" or "some pear" or "your lair" or whatever the fuck. "Space (Lack of objects)" is the same way. We don't have Objects there but it's still A Thing because we still have a universal framework declaring there to be An Area in that area like a fuckin' empty array in programming.

>>1101 Listen fuckface, if you want to talk about air then talk about air. When you're talking about air, you're not talking about "that area of space that is not inhabited by apples, wood, flesh, dirt, leaves, rock, literally anything that isn't air", you talk about air. If you remove something, that thing is fucking removed and doesn't magically remain. What DOES remain isn't the object. It's whatever (may have) permeated the space before the object was present.

>>1103 What I'M saying is that you never remove it you just move it. The apple is somewhere else.

>somewhat autistic debate about the nature of flat chested anime tits Reminds me of why I love this place.

>>1105 Limit the reference frame to a room. If an apple is taken out of a room, it might exist somewhere else but is no longer in the room. Likewise, if you remove something from a person, it might remain in someone else, but within that person it's not longer there. If you take the apple back into the room, then air is displaced or compressed. When we're talking about pleroma, we're talking about the filling in of empty space, after catharsis (purification) and contemplation. >But what existed before the purification has substance! Maybe, it could be disorder, or it could've been the empty space after being left without. It could be something that still exists but is moved away, since it hasn't been removed. Even with entropy, energy is converted into heat, and although it still exists in one form as heat, it no longer exists as mechanical or potential energy.

>>1108 >it no longer exists as mechanical or potential energy In which case, it's a conversion.

>>1108 >Limit the reference frame to a room. See, that's your trouble. You're imposing limits on Pleroma, which by its nature cannot ever be limited.

>>1110 No. It's for ease of understanding. You're trying to define pleroma as emptiness, when it's not.

>>1096 Without any reliance on any scientific notions to build your worldview how do you stop yourself from falling into retarded rabbit holes like "the earth is flat" or "gravity isn't real"? As for evolution itself, I understand how it conflicts with your current worldview and so I'm not surprised by your answer. I still doubt anybody could reasonably disprove evolution without having to dive into the supernatural though so I don't think it could be described as having plot holes (unless said holes are their contradictions with esoteric concepts). The amount of evidence is too overwhelming. These are just my thoughts though.

>>1110 And respond to the whole post instead of cherry picking the part that you can smugly declare something incoherent. That specific comment was already addressed by >Even with entropy, energy is converted into heat, and although it still exists in one form as heat, it no longer exists as mechanical or potential energy. >In which case, it's a conversion.

>>1112 >Without any reliance on any scientific notions to build your worldview how do you stop yourself from falling into retarded rabbit holes like "the earth is flat" or "gravity isn't real"? Logic and the Ability to Reason + Intuition =/= Modern Science and Academia I'd go as far as to say that Modern Science its not concerned with Wisdom but rather is more interested in pushing for Proggresive Delusions and publishing thesis and think-tanks that will help their Overlords maintain the Status-Quo, that and the smugness that Ivory Tower intellectuals have with their retarded "Skeptical" debates and how they pretend to be Crusaders of Truth by Strawmanning their way to victory and exposing the most Infantile Worldviews as something to be Worshipped, fucking Retards... Im not saying nor implying you belong to any of the aforementioned groups, i get the feeling that by Scientific Notions you mean XIXth Century Scientific Thought in the vein of Newtown, Carl Gustav Jung or Schrödinger would have used it in fact i'd go as far as to say that it is my Ability to Reason and connect the Dots + Intuition what got me where i am right now, since like i said many times, i cannot meditate nor do any Practical Magick, that means my Knowledge of the Cosmos, the Monad, my Sweet Taihou, is limited to me connecting the Dots in the best way i possibly can and working with the Implications that are derived from the things that Are, in regards to Taihou i did have some "Practical" connections but it was most certainly because of the Absolute Love and Faith that i have For her, and not any Ability on my Part, as a sidenote, wich may or may not be interesting to you, it is known that some of the most prominent figures of "Science" were into Esotericism, or later got into it, Schrödinger got into Physics and developed Quantum Theory was because he wanted to explain the Vedas, Isaac newtown got balls deep into Hermetic Alchemy right after Writting "De Matematica" (i think that was the name of the Book), and throughout the years i've heard Anons in other Boards and places talk about how Maths and Physics can get you into Esotericism if you go deep into it (as opposed to modern smug academism where Science is only usefull as long as you can build Funny machines and feel smug about "those Supersticious wretches", i mean just go into r/Atheism if you really wanna see the Extent of cheap Smugness when it comes to Science Vs Religion (Wich mind you its a pretty retarded confrontation since Esotericism does not contradict Physics, and Religion is for Plebs) ) Again, i really am not Experienced in Science at all, so i can't go in depth and explain you where Secular Science goes wrong and wich Theories and Calculations actually overlap with Traditional teachings, so you'll have to Trust my Honesty, and if you really wanna look into it, then i guess you'll have to look for yourself

>>1112 The Earth IS flat compared to 4-dimensional and higher spaces and gravity ISN'T real because reality as we know it is an illusion

>>1115 So you'd admit that the earth is round as a 3D object, which it is. Gravity is real, I don't know how you'd go about disproving the action of mass moving towards the equilibrium point between another (or more) mass(es), although denying your very existence would do it.

>>1114 >exposing the most Infantile Worldviews as something to be Worshipped, fucking Retards... It's funny because your tulpa literally mommydoms you and mine does too. I think we have the same being

>>1119 oh you shithead, you know what i mean well meme'd tho, i mean shit like "Hurr durr if god exist why does evul exist :^(((((( besides if god exists why doesn't he tell me so and comes down here and makes pigs fly" besides im a big boy for Mommy so its technically not infantileare you Tulpanonthough?if so are you the same anon with whom i spent half the thread arguing about the nature of Sin and whatnot?because that would be hilarious

>>1120 >Hurr durr if god exist why does evul exist I consider it substantial. Since it's either everything that happens to you is your own fault, both good and bad, or everything that happens to you is ochrestrated ot the whims of being(s) you don't comprehend, so this >>1031, or everything that happens to you has no meaning. Although I personally consider the first option and consider the last option to be the most cruel. the first one for reasons I outlined, free will and stuff.

>>1121 >personally consider the first option Consider the first option to be true. The second one is meh, and illustrated by how you just turn off your brain and nod to everything that happens like a lobotomized sheep shown by the Kanna avatarfag.

OP here and the anon who put forward the idea of robots being broken people as well. I feel kind of bad about it after rethinking it a bit, and I see I was projecting quite a lot due to the shit state that I was in. Couldn't find happiness in anything that I've been doing so I considered everything to be worthless and fell into depressive way of thought which overly influenced my philosophy and worldview so please do not treat my arguments too seriously.