exploring new frontiers with my wife Ria!

the most active /sfg/ refugee thread is on the sharty's tech board https://www.soyjak.st/tech/thread/4834.html

First off I just wanted you to know that I love you, and I miss you, huuuuuuuu- Second, I ain't going to the sharty. Fuck those niggers. Luckly there hasn't been much happening, but it's getting closer to launch time, and it looks like 4chan will most likely be down for a month. Hope enough anons find their way to experience Flight 9 together.

>>121 yeah i saw it but it looked dead so i made this thread, but i guess this is dead too, but at least im not the only sfger who washed up on 8chans shores

>>123 Yeah, not a lot of altchans have /sci/ boards, and the ones that do, are so slow, they're basically dead. I can understand how some anons won't bother looking for /sfg/ until the site is back up.

>>124 sfg is decently active compared to other generals so maybe it'll make it. the rest of /sci/ though? maybe not unless 8champ gets more traffic.

>Closeup of the flame deflector support structure from RGV's last flyover. https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1912587945602871623

>>125 The tricky part is, how do we alert everyone to here? I don't want to go around advertising on the arch.b4k.dev/meta/ threads, or the other altchans. That will just cause unwanted shitposters. It's bad enough the most populated thread is on soyjak, which is even worse than being permanently on page 1 of /sci/.

So what else have we missed? Northrop Grumman’s solid rocket testing facility in Promontory, Utah exploded today. Minotaur IV launched, also.

>In the end, the four shuttles were sent to museums in Washington, DC, New York, Florida, and California. >And that was all more or less settled until last week when the two US senators from Texas, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz, filed the "Bring the Space Shuttle Home Act" to move Space Shuttle Discovery from its current location the Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum’s Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia to Houston. >After the senators announced their bill, the collective response from the space community was initially shock. This was soon followed by: why? >The short answer is that it is all political, and the timing is due to the reelection campaign for Cornyn, who faces a stiff runoff against Ken Paxton. https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/why-are-two-texas-senators-trying-to-wrest-a-space-shuttle-from-the-smithsonian/ it would cost a billion to move the shuttle, and has a high risk of causing major damage that would need to be repaired for additional money

>>127 unfortunately i think we just need to get the word out in general and the risk of shitposters is just the cost of doing business. i've told a few friends so far but thats about it.

>>128 both bits of news are wtf worthy

/sfg/ is dead, long live /sfg/ Thanks for making a /sci/ anon, as for growing it please only recruit from other /sfg/s as /sci/ in general has been a dumpster fire for years.

>>127 in my opinion, the shitposters will go back when 4chan is online again. They're after low hanging fruit and there's far less dopamine to get from a slower general on an altchan. Meanwhile the good, enthusiastic posters would remain (hopefully). I guess it also depends on how long the outage lasts for. If the general doesn't get a critical mass of posters for quality discussion then everyone will just migrate to 4chinz eventually and keep enduring the trolls there.

>>121 I'm not going there. >>127 I checked randomly if this place had a /sci/ this morning and here you all are. Some of you, anyway.

This is what going to Mars will feel like

>>135 Quiet? Peaceful? A little lonely?

SpaceX in the lead to build Trump's Golden Dome missile shield >SpaceX and two partners have emerged as frontrunners to win a crucial part of President Donald Trump's "Golden Dome" missile defense shield, six people familiar with the matter said. >Musk's rocket and satellite company is partnering with software maker Palantir, opens new tab and drone builder Anduril on a bid to build key parts of Golden Dome, the sources said >Despite the Pentagon's positive signals to the SpaceX group, some sources stressed the decision process for Trump's Golden Dome is in its early stages. Its ultimate structure and who is selected to work on it could change dramatically in the coming months. >The three companies met with top officials in the Trump administration and the Pentagon in recent weeks to pitch their plan, which would build and launch 400 to more than 1,000 satellites circling the globe to sense missiles and track their movement, sources said >A separate fleet of 200 attack satellites armed with missiles or lasers would then bring enemy missiles down, three of the sources said. The SpaceX group is not expected to be involved in the weaponization of satellites, these sources said. >After publication, Musk replied to a post about Reuters' story on his social network X without elaborating: "This is not true." https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/musks-spacex-is-frontrunner-build-trumps-golden-dome-missile-shield-2025-04-17/

>>137 >SpaceX has proposed setting up its role in Golden Dome as a "subscription service" in which the government would pay for access to the technology, rather than own the system outright. >The subscription model, which has not been previously reported, could skirt some Pentagon procurement protocols allowing the system to be rolled out faster, the two sources said. While the approach would not violate any rules, the government may then be locked into a subscription and lose control over its ongoing development and pricing, they added. >Some Pentagon officials have expressed concerns internally about relying on the subscription-based model for any part of the Golden Dome, two sources told Reuters. Such an arrangement would be unusual for such a large and critical defense program. >Other options include having the U.S. own and operate the system, or having the U.S. own it while contractors handle operations. Guetlein did not respond to a request for comment. >SpaceX is pitching for the part of the Golden Dome initiative called the "custody layer," a constellation of satellites that would detect missiles, track their trajectory, and determine if they are heading toward the U.S., according to two sources familiar with SpaceX's goals. >SpaceX has estimated the preliminary engineering and design work for the custody layer of satellites would cost between $6 billion and $10 billion, two of the sources said.

>>137 Patiently waiting for Anduril's IPO.

FCC approval for new Starlink routers. https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-is-prepping-a-new-starlink-router

Today in spaceflight history, Apollo 13 astronauts splashed down safely.

>>131 Mommy

Astronomers Detect a Possible Signature of Life on a Distant Planet >astronomers detected dimethyl sulfide and dimethyl disulfide on a possible water world 120 light years away >On Earth, the only known source of dimethyl sulfide is life. In the ocean, for instance, certain forms of algae produce the compound, which wafts into the air and adds to the sea’s distinctive odor. the planet also has methane in the atmosphere

>>143 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/16/science/astronomy-exoplanets-habitable-k218b.html https://archive.ph/xb6ZL

>>143 >it's mass is 2.6 Earths These space niggers aren't a threat to us. If we can barely get off our planet, it's very likely they aren't going to have a space program.

>>145 Imagine being stuck on your world.

>>145 surface gravity is 12.43 m/s2, they could escape the planet but its going to be alot harder, especially if it is a water world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2-18b

>>121 >>123 >>133 polling https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNml2Bg6 whichever has more votes gets to be our temporary(?) base of operations hopefully it won't be 50:50 split https://8chan.moe/sci/res/119 https://www.soyjak.st/tech/thread/4834

>>148 how active is soyjak in general? i've been watching the stats on 8chan and it's seen a steady increase in users and posts being made.

>>143 take this with a pound of salt since apparently the authors of the papers like to make wild claims that are later debunked

>por que no los dos? Found the thread splitter anon.

>>150 What other claims have they made?

>>149 kind of similar, but 8chan is now bigger sharty has about 3000 posts per hour, 7000 unique poster IPs 8chan has about 4000 PPH, 9000 unique IPs Also, I imagine sharty is more prone to random fits of inane spamming that could suddenly nuke the general

>>143 nothingburger methane is everywhere as for dimethyl sulfide I bet they found a spectroscopic peak just barely over (theoretical) LOD that's a false positive and/or it's abiotic unless they show the spectral lines and LOQ, I will not even entertain the idea they found hints, let alone proofs of anything interesting

>>152 they found a planet made of diamond https://news.yale.edu/2012/10/11/nearby-super-earth-likely-diamond-planet

>>155 What would even cause such a thing

>>143 https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/04/skepticism-greets-claims-of-a-possible-biosignature-on-a-distant-world/ havent read it yet

>>137 >L3Harris Technologies announced this week a $125 million expansion of its manufacturing facility in Fort Wayne, Indiana, focused on increasing production of infrared sensing payloads – a central technology for the Golden Dome missile-defense shield that relies heavily on space-based capabilities. https://spacenews.com/l3harris-expands-space-manufacturing-as-companies-vie-for-position-in-golden-dome/ we're losing jobs in NOAA and NASA but gaining them for Golden Dome. its not the best trade but its better than nothing. no word on how many jobs its going to create.

So this is where you fags went. Fitting that the site went down when nothing was really happening anyway.

>>159 some are here, some are at sharty. idk if sfg anons are at other boards.

>>159 Hopefully it's back up before another launch.

>>161 i didnt realize it was so dead for launches lately

Apparently Orbit Reef isn't dead yet. https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/commercial-space/leo-economy/nasa-sees-progress-on-blue-origins-orbital-reef-design-development/

>>163 how could it be dead? nasa still needs to pick a company for their commercial leo station. did orbital reef supposedly die as a concept awhile back?

Glad I looked through all the boards again. First time I saw /sci/ was locked and didn't know how /sfg/ would organize. https://rentry.org/8chanMinusMinus Also a few addons for some much needed quality of life features. Hopefully these will make people more open to staying here. It still lacks a few important things and conveniences of 4chanx, but for me the other benefits of this site more than make up the difference. >>133 In addition to what this anon said with them going back to 4chan if it comes back up, this place is also much better at dealing with problem shitposters. >>135 My desire to escape from Earthers has never been more revitalized.

>>131 Why arent thhis whore's tits in my mouth right now?

I can't believe my post was the last post on /sfg/ forever

>>145 it has lower surface gravity than Earth. did you fail basic physics? planetary diameter that is the real killer

I thought elon said we wud be launchan by now

>>165 >https://rentry.org/8chanMinusMinus Which one should I use? 8chanMinusMinus seems kinda lacking. previously I used 4chanX on deadchan

ess eff gee is ded but i don't have the pic saved or something

>>171 All except fullchan x. The others cover what that does but better. At least for right now. We'll have to keep an eye on what extensions come out and update for what's the best.

>>137 >>138 According to Elon, this report isn't true.

>>172 not ded, just sleepy

>>173 not a fan of the dollchan one, i guess the others are ok

Ick Piss stacking for Artemis II SLS soon

Curiosity Rover's terrain more interesting than Percy's. Gigapan: https://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/237140

>>127 I'd rather just go around advertising. The shitposters can be easily dealt with here I think. Also I finally found fucking /sci/, every other popular generals and boards have migrated on this website but not /sci/. To be fair, /sci/ was already a slow board even with the schizos and shitposters. Also, where is the STEM or med fag generals? Someone lead them to this board. It'd be nice to have other threads.

Holy SHIT, the secretary of transportation just dunked on Blue Urine bigly: YOU ARE NO ASTRONAUT

>Unfortunately Sean once again shows that he's not familiar with FAA regulations. >This section merely defines the criteria for being awarded commercial astronaut wings, rather than placing rules on titles that people can use. >If the program were still running he could rightfully refuse to award them astronaut wings under this rule. I'm under no illusion as to the nature of crew duties, or lack thereof, on this flight. >So they can legally call themselves astronauts and say they went to space, and you can legally roll your eyes and say 'whatever'.

>>184 manly deaserves to eat nigger shit from a monkeys ass

la la la lavaaa chi chi chi chickennnn steve's lava chicken yeah its tasty as hell ooo mamasita duh nuh ringing a bell!

get swole, bros

>>187 He's falling apart :(

>>188 he'll be fine

>>189 What are the odds of him dying before humans return to the Moon?

>>190 50/50

>>190 If he keeps staying active and eating healthy, he might make it past 100.

>>190 0% if we freeze him

>14 IDs grim

>no more retards and bots hopeful

>>178 Gale Crater is more interesting than Jezero. I hope they send a full-scale Ingenuity-type drone to explore the Mariner Valleys next, but at our current pace that won't be after Dragonfly.

>>196 reminder it's Ye-ze-ro, not Jizz-ero

>>197 Wrong, it's Jazz-ero.

Remigrated from the sharty. This site looks instantly much better. Just the lack of soyjack theming cleanses the mind and soul.

>>199 I will never post alongside those faggots, this is /sfg/ for me now.

>>200 just wish it didn't die every 10 minutes lol

>>199 welcome home, white man. It must have been tough being stuck on a site with an average poster age of 15. >>201 that's to be expected when PPH increased tenfold in a single day. Apart from that and a few minor qol issues, this is a way better site than 4chan. The filesize limit + sound files are seriously making me consider staying here. IDs on /v/ and other boards are the cherry on top.

>>202 Just having a UID counter again is a blessing. I have no idea what the rape ape gang was thinking with that one. 4chan still has me captive but I wouldn't mind if the restart took a while. Maybe they'll look over here and take some lessons.

>>204 There was never any good reason to hide the IP counter from us, I have some tinfoil theories, all of them sinister.

Looks like China is targeting 2029 for their crewed landing attempt. https://x.com/erdayastronaut/status/1913290204951031811?s=46&t=xb4UI7hOabkbxvL21cL2lw

>>206 Hope they make it. Genuinely. For all mankind and for the west to get the proverbial mom looking over your shoulder making sure you're actually doing schoolwork.

>>206 Has there been any visible progress on Long March 10 since they released that video of three YF-100Ks firing together on a test stand? And what's the likelihood they will run into delays developing the full triple core version much like SpaceX did with Falcon Heavy?

test

>>206 China is incredible

This where I will retire. In a back-pain-free 0.37g, Earther-less environment

>>121 I'm not going anywhere near those fucking faggots after what they pulled. Also the sharty has a shit layout

>the eastern range is shut down due to an unknown reason what's going on? i saw it on ars and also heard about it on nsf. nsf thinks its a maintenance issue, and stephen clark at ars thinks the military might have a secret operation underway. coincidentally, the bahamas is also putting falcon 9 landings on hold but that's a separate thing even though it's covered by the eastern range https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/theres-a-secret-reason-the-space-force-is-delaying-the-next-atlas-v-launch/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE02HlEiEx4 https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/rocket-report-daytona-rocket-delayed-again-bahamas-tells-spacex-to-hold-up/

>>194 Space Flight-General has never had more than 20 or so posters

>>121 Just let the word spread naturally. For now imagine we're on Mars and this is our little 10-man image board

>>215 I don't mind waiting for the Ceresposters to catch up

calls for the US and Artemis members to form a military alliance for space called the "Artemis Alliance" to enforce the Outer Space Treaty >The principles of a free, open, and peaceful space are enshrined in the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which all major space powers have ratified, including the U.S., Russia, and China. The U.S. had sought to build on that landmark treaty when it launched the Artemis Accords in 2020, which 54 countries have so far signed on to. But the refusal of Russia and China to get on board—alongside the Kremlin’s veto last year of the first ever U.N. Security Council resolution on outer space, which condemned the placing of weapons of mass destruction in orbit—are a sure as sign as any that a new approach is needed. >That is why it is time for the U.S. to lead a new military alliance—an Artemis Alliance, or Allied Space Forces—to do exactly that. >The Artemis Alliance should not, of course, replace the Outer Space Treaty. A defense alliance would instead be a coalition of like-minded countries whose goal is to uphold the peaceful use of space. Ultimately, an Artemis Alliance would add hard power credibility to the soft power norms and principles shaped by the 1967 accord, essentially giving it “teeth.” >The Alliance would seek to deter and defeat offensive space capabilities, condemn any attempts to render space unusable in international fora, and impose tangible violations that include sanctions—from export controls on the low end to military action on the high end. https://time.com/7277034/us-allied-space-forces/

>>121 Just let the word spread naturally. For now imagine we're on Mars and this is our little 10-man image board

>>217 that reminds me, there was an article the other day that said american and french forces conducted wargames in space recently >Stressing the importance of coalitions in any future space war, Whiting said that SPACECOM “has spent a lot of time over the last year … working to operationalize our relationships in space with our most capable allies. >“And one example of that that I’m proud to announce here for the first time is that the US and France recently conducted our first ever bilateral rendezvous and proximity operation to demonstrate combined capabilities in space in the vicinity of a strategic competitor spacecraft,” he said. https://breakingdefense.com/2025/04/time-for-space-force-to-clearly-say-it-needs-weapons-in-space-spacecom-head/

>>217 Artemis Alliance is a pretty decent name at least, sounds spacey without being goofy. "Outer Space Treaty" sounds a bit bland

>>220 really? i hate it. it sounds goofy as hell to me. but i remember people saying they hated the name space force even though i liked it.

Finally found /sfg/ Flight 9 when 4chan back when

>>222 Two weeks

>The upcoming CRS-33 mission to fly in August of 2025 will feature a new trunk variation which will enable it to have extra propellant in the trunk. >There isn't a final design on the trunk which has been publicly available yet, and not much information has been shared from officials, but presumably it will feature a couple of bulkhead Draco thrusters and extra propellant in the trunk facing directly in the velocity-vector to allow better boosting. New trunk upgrades coming for boosting

>>220 No way, alliteration just doesn't fit big pompous military or political things. It's always goofy. (Artemis Accords works because it's a scientific thing and it's ok for those to have funny names, in peace for all mankind and what not) Just get a synonym, Artemis Coalition sounds just fine.

>>224 >allow better boosting Preliminary work towards ISS deorbit vehicle?

>>224 about time. the trunk is underrated. we saw upgrades to the dragons for polaris (viewing window & airlock for the spacewalk) but the trunk got neglected. there's definitely potential there.

>>226 Yeah most likely, neat to see them giving the trunk some attention like they gave Dragon with skywalker >>227 According to some dude on twitter this is even enough for Dragon to do a lunar landing https://x.com/RGregoryClark/status/1913354242699538821 >Thanks for that info. The trunk has 37 cubic meters available volume. The propellant used for the Dragon’s thrusters has density about 1,200 kg/cu.m. Then can get 44 tons extra prop. in trunk. This is enough for the Dragon with trunk to serve as a lunar lander >yfw SpaceX make Lunar Dragon real

>>217 in the future once we colonize Mars, Moon, Ceres, Caliisto, etc the Alliance will expand to include those systems and they will rename it the Systems Alliance

>>212 Yeah, looks like 4chan

>Falcon 9 is targeted to launch three missions starting with our 5th NRO mission of the year on Sunday, followed by Dragon's 32nd cargo mission to the @Space_Station and our third Bandwagon rideshare mission on Monday → busy busy

>8chan.moe is down reminder you can also use 8chan.se in case 8chan.moe is down

>>222 Two weeks for both (unironically)

>>220 Space Force sounds ok now but at first it sounded silly "Space" is a pretty silly word tbh

>>222 dos weekos

>>233 8chan.moe is always down. can i use the other one exclusively? or are they both shitty

Elon named the first Mars city Terminus, because you are guaranteed to get terminal cancer after you arrive. Unbelievable.

>>237 .se always seems to work. I'm using it right now. Thread numbers are the same and everything

>>237 >8chan.moe is always down. works on my pc

>>241 Yeah same. Oh wait nope. Oh yep. Nope. Yep.

Eric has finally lost it.

>>243 What EDS does to a muthafucka

>>243 why are people so autistic about this? they're clearly not astronauts. its literally that simple. >flood detected please wait 2 seconds >flood detected please wait 6 seconds >flood detected please wait 9 seconds >flood detected please wait 15 seconds looks like berger isnt the only thing being schizo right now. cant even post on .se anymore

>>245 sharty won (again)

>>244 this isn't EDS, it's just leftist pandering. My cope is that Ars is forcing Berger to write such drivel for good boy points.

>>246 even tho i get the same message on the 'arty o algo

>>245 The number of random fags online coming out of the woodwork to suddenly offer their expert opinion on whether or not New Shepard was aktually fake has been bizarre to witness. Where were these fags when Shatner flew? Are they only paying attention now because aging former popstar was on board?

>>249 yes

>>249 I miss when people just talked about fake moon landings. Now it seems like there's more and more unironic "space is fake" stuff

>>251 Funny thing is that there's no reason why they should think it's fake. A suborbital hop doesn't violate flat-earth theory if you think about it. But then again, they also think the SN ships landing flip n' burn is CGI so I guess they don't believe in rocket engines? BUT I've also seem them say that airplanes can't carry enough fuel to fly so they secretly use free energy or some shit, so I don't know why they don't then extrapolate that rockets can also use this supposeve free energy device to perform the feats they do.

>>252 who's they? Retards aren't a hivemind, those who believe starship to be faked and those who believe in muh aliun magic drives could be part of two separate mental disability echo chambers.

>>253 no flerfs also believe in free energy bc they think nikola tesla was suppressed for free energy research or some shit.

Headsup for those still on sharty (why on Earth would you be) it does some shady shit >>>/v/1146095 >>>/v/1146107

>>186 watched this movie with friends recently, felt like a fucking fever dream not as bad as i was expecting and i definetly felt some heart was put into it, but still bad.

You guys are awful

How do I make my X algorithm give me Spitter stuff? I have a Nazi feed right now but I want more Spitter. I hate that you can't choose what you want to see, but I can't cope with /sfg/ being this slow.

>>257 >>259 Good. Stupid performative whore bitch.

>>257 this is exactly what the haters (degrowthers/leftists) want, to discourage others from going and to drive a narrative in society that space travel is bad and should be discouraged as much as possible don't let em win

>>256 It felt like a long form tiktok

>>258 go read a book, zoom zoom. Your brain is fried.

>>260 What did she do to you?

>>257 that's what she looks like now? man, she hit the wall hard, no wonder she's doing publicity stunts.

>>261 It has nothing to do with spaceflight, fuck off. Also >muh optics Lol.

>>252 There's also "the capsule doesn't have burn marks like Dragon so it didn't really go to space, Bezos faked it somehow"

>>267 Ye I saw someone say that lol. Although then someone rolled in with the explanation, i.e. it's not orbital or even suborbital, so the entrance velocity is significantly slower (4000km/h vs 23000km/h)

After initial colonisation, Martian architecture will find its roots in 3D printed structures made of sintered regolith. Derived from expressionist Terran styles, it blends utilitarian forms from established Martian habitats with minimalist aesthetic shells to form a new kind of look unique to Mars - a look that embraces the realities of Mars' environment while still achieving an aspirational and welcoming feel. Who knows how Martian architecture will evolve from here?

Stoke has plans to refill Nova on orbit. This will enable it to send payloads essentially anywhere. https://x.com/booster_10/status/1913427346553508333 >>271 Not spaceflight, fuck off.

>>258 Just flag every post you don't want to see as "not interested in this post", interact more with space content (open up images, watch videos, go down the replies). Eventually your feed should fix itself. There is no way on mobile to remove topics shown on your feed, but on desktop, there are a few more settings you can access that allows you to uncheck certain topics you don't want being fed to you. Why they don't allow this on mobile is beyond me.

>>272 >sex in space >space >spaceflight yes, this is spaceflight

>>271 doesn't borigin only spend like 5 minutes in actual space I don't think that would be the bragging rights you want

>>255 I made one post, how fucked am I?

>>272 Not only does it go to space, but it doesnt have Elon's fascist sweaty balls all over it

>>274 >>277 NS doesn't reach space. Not spaceflight. Spaceflight and Nazism are analagous. Liberalism will be left to die on Earth while fascism spreads throughout the universe. Cope.

>>271 idgaf tbh

>>270 by god i hope we left that fucking titanfag on the sharty. only mars allowed in this house.

VGH, EVROPA

for me? It's Ceres.

The only habitable worlds in Sol are as follows: - Earth - Luna - Mars We must colonise Luna and Mars and test and develop systems rigorously while progressing towards fission-powered generation rockets that will allow us to send humans to star systems with more habitable worlds such as Alpha Centauri and Tau Ceti. We will NEVER colonise Ceres. We will NEVER build cloud cities on Venus. We will NEVER observe the waves of Titan's methane shores.

>>284 Don't forget Mercury

what the fuck is this europa ice war shit?

>>285 gotta say that's a lotta good arguments. might turn me into a mercurynigger.

>>278 dumbass nigga never heard of the kármán line

hop wen

>>286 Don't know. Bored trannies is the most likely explanation. A lot of the profiles I've checked out advertise their pronouns. Even the furnigger SpaceBasedFox (confirmed for browsing /sfg/) has joined in on the larp.

>>220 >>271 their tits are too small. we wanna see big freefloating bazongas.

>>285 >technically on average the closest system to every planet FUCK YOU CGP GREY GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD REEEEEE

found you space frens, not gonna post more "sfg is dead" for at least the next two weeks, this time it died for real :(

>>206 >Looks like China is targeting 2029 for their crewed landing attempt. is this delayed? i remember it was always before 2030.

I saw someone theorise that mercury could be the exposed core of Theia. There's probably no way that's true but it's a cute notion so I'll choose to believe it for now.

NASA Astronaut Don Pettit Soyuz MS-26 Re-entry and Landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DmBm9gP460 just entered peak heating

>>296 >peak heating now leaving peak heating, max g was 4.2 declining, waiting for chutes deploy

1 minute till touchdown

>>297 nominal, crew feeling great, 1000 metres, 900 metres above ground

>>300 Capsule is on its side

>Tips over Soyuz legacy.

gonna be real with you guys, in terms of recovery helicopters > boats

manned landings should be a daily occurrence by now... its 2025 wtf

Petit landed on his 70th birthday. Next on /sfg/: Sun Apr 20, 2025 14:29 CEST SpaceX launches NROL-145 from SLC-4E, Vandenberg SFB, California, USA; Sun Apr 20, 2025 19:51 CEST 52246 Donaldjohanson : Lucy Donaldjohanson Flyby Following its launch aboard an Atlas V in 2021, NASA's Lucy spacecraft will fly past asteroid 52246 Donaldjohanson, a C-type asteroid in the main belt, at a distance of 596 miles (960 km). The flyby will serve as a dress rehearsal for Lucy's main mission: the exploration of multiple Jupiter Trojan asteroids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL9_0sagfBg Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:15 CEST SpaceX launches a cargo Dragon to the space station, from LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida, USA;

What are your emotions, now you're back on Earth? Answer: inaudible

wip making circles in GIMP is so annoying

>>143 If the signature on K2-18b actually does happen to be life, it puts a big statistical lower bound on the number of life bearing planets in the galaxy. We can only detect one in fifty, or even one in one hundred planets by the transit method: for every one we detect, there are 49 to 99 that we miss. Just one detection like this means there is a lot of life out there.

Kyplanet is a pretty good exoplanet covering channel, rare to find space focused channels that aren't either braindead popsci or thunderfagging. He just made a decent video on >>143 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7wOpJmGkmA

>>310 This video's narration is incredibly repetitive. The smug "Acktchually" thing is that five-sigma bullshit raising its head outside of particle physics when it has no fucking business sticking its nose outside of highly statistically dependent datasets, and the detection on K2-18B exceeds the interstellar medium and comet finds by five orders of magnitude (1 part DMS in 600,000 H2, versus 1 part in 10 BILLION for the interstellar medium and its closely matching cometary find).

>>268 god i wanna fuck io

>>196 The lowest point on Mars is badwater crater in the hellas planitia, i hope they go there and the Valles Marineris

>>311 >repetitive Fair enough, I think the guy is a 20yo and writing isn't his strong suit. They can't all be Homemade Documentaries tier. >Sigma bullshit I also dislike this being thrown around like a buzzword, but here it's warranted. Since news outlets were using claims of "it's le 3 sigma" to promote the discovery, it has to be addressed since it was plainly wrong.

>>311 meaning what

>>315 It's more nitpicking than debunking.

how many 2 weeks left before the next starship attempt?

>>317 Probably about two

>>308 What do you use for guidance? Do you just draw a grid or does GIMP have aligning tools? I've been using Paint.NET my whole life so I don't know which is better for infographics like this.

>>308 can you not just hold shift with the ellipse tool to make a uniform circle?

bros...

>feds pushing this europa war trend on twitter to obscure search results for europa the last battle Least obvious kike psyop.

>>322 Why would anyone care about a random movie from 2017?

>>295 It would explain Mercury's strangely huge core And Theia had to end up somewhere

>>319 Not him, but yes gimp has aligning tools. You can set guidelines by percentage or exact pixel location, and objects will snap to them

bruh when static fire

>>295 >>324 I thought the Moon was the remnants of Theia.

>>316 so basically other scientists are jealous and positing retardmode alternatives that have never been demonstrated in nature, yet bio life, which has been demonstrated, is a step too far?

>>321 whores will do anything for attention

Currently sat at Syrtis Major Planum watching Phobos fly by in SE. I forgot how fast it orbits. It would be fun watching the Martian moons in real life. I wonder if you'd be able to resolve Phobos at least with the naked eye.

So I guess this is much more active than the sharty /tech/ one?

>>331 yep, it's also not malware.

>>331 I wouldn't know, I'm not fucking going over to that dump to check.

>>333 went to a few chans before sharty but for some reason didn't come to 8chan directly, for some reason I didn't think it existed anymore

>>331 yeah the last spaceflight-related post in that thread was 20 hours ago and all the posts after that are people asking where everybody went

I can't believe how much better this site is than 4chan. Multiple file attachments, sound in videos, 50 fucking MB upload limit, AI containment boards. It's amazing how fucking shit 4chan was in contrast to its traffic. I hope that faggot Hiro hangs himself.

>>327 The Moon is thought to be mostly earth material kicked out by the collision due to it being the same materials you see on earth. It's unknown what happened to Theia, it probably got completely obliterated with most material merging indiscernably into the Earth and Moon and the rest spraying out in small chunks. But the Mercury idea really is cute desu, hope it turns out to be true.

>>165 the bigger filesize and sound in videos is pretty nice, but the site seems to be a bit slow (loading files, posting etc)

>>339 Traffic must be up by like 1000% from the usual

>>205 such as?

>>213 the bahamas thing seems political somehow though the official reason is starship exploding or maybe they just think starship exploding means F9 won't be able to land reliably either

prob both

>>337 I'm happy I don't have to reencode webm's every time i want to post one

>>340 Something like that.

>>336 Going back is going to be a downgrade for so many, hopefully there is a big push to bring some of these features to 4chan. Obviously 50MB upload is not viable, but things like webms with audio should definitely be a site wide feature. Feel a bit iffy about multiple files, though. It might benefit a few boards, but overall, I think it's going to be abused and drive up the cost of operating the site. However, to offset that, it could be a 4chan pass exclusive feature. They're going to need to incentivize people to keep buying passes and justify the existing ones, after the hack.

>>249 they weren't aware it was happening until katy perry did it

>>346 /sfg/ might as well just stay here, not like people wanted to have anything to do with /sci/ either way, rather than just stay hidden basically

>>348 Nah, I'm going back. Though, it is very comfy knowing that this entire board is completely dominated by /sfg/ and nobody is around to bother us.

>>339 >>340 It's more like two orders of magnitude for the site overall. Also there was/is some spammer in /v/ having an autistic shitfit in the FFXIV threads.

>>348 I'm definitely gonna stay, if only to escape the /pol/ niggers that always seem to worm their way into the general after IFTs

>>349 I'm thinking about it purely from a technical standpoint, this site has better features for posting, and I had the impression that most /sfg/ regulars never even interacted with the rest of /sci/, rather than just opening the next thread when it staged. So in that regard I don't really care if the url says 8chan or 4chan

>>341 Hiding obvious botting in the runup to '24 election. I'm probably crazy and I'm probably right too.

>>353 not impossible

>>348 My only fear at this point is people like >>349 causing bandwagon fomo of everyone just wanting to be where the other posters are, making this site go back to being dead and letting 4chan basically get away with being such a pile of shit. >>349 Fuck you faggot. I hope 4chan never comes back up.

>>356 Can't believe I forgot the thumb.

some somewhat interesting launches coming up soon I guess

>>356 whatever happened to the refugees after 2015 at 8ch? I left 4chan at that time for years but after a while also stopped posting to 8ch (focusing on studies more so stopped going to chans altogether basically) I remember seeing something about hotwheels or his handler fucking it up somehow due to "nazis" or whatever

>>356 4chan is my home. Call me an abused beaten wife, but until it truly dies, I'm always going to stay there.

>>360 Haven-demo is going to be one of the payloads on bandwagon https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1913983535855128670 >Haven-Demo (VAST (@vast)): VAST's Haven-Demo is a 500kg technology demonstration satellite developed to test components and subsystems for their planned commercial space station, Haven-1. It aims to validate key technologies, including a radiofrequency communications system, guidance, navigation, and control hardware and algorithms, solar array and power systems, and a propulsion system, to increase flight heritage and reduce technical and operational risks for Haven-1.

>>361 I'm a this-week-refugee so my knowledge on it is quite limited. I don't know the exact timeline so this might be something you were part of, but there was the original 8chan (now called 8chan prime) which eventually fractured (I think over mass shootings and government sticking their noses in) and resulted in 8kun (more politically-focused and apparently courting qtards) and this 8chan (apparently more focused on trying to be like the old 8chan and just a good altchan). >>363 >Earth is my home. Call me an abused beaten wife, but until it truly dies, I'm always going to stay there.

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1914016178835792011 >The first Starship hold down clamp arm has been delivered to be installed into the Starbase tower 2 launch mount.

>>366 We have arms, we have legs >>281 What do I have to do around here to get some head?

>>342 the country is run by dumb niggers

>>351 Im still here retard

>>369 that's fine, you'll go back when 4chinz is up

>>370 I'll do whatever gets me the most (You)s

>>351 Hey, nigger. I'm still here, and I always will be. Only this time, your kike-friendly mod won't be around to remove my posts calling out kikery in spaceflight. Hope you wake up. :)

>>334 This 8chan is difficult to find. Most people will find 8kun first. This one is also not supported by Kuroba

The hate is satanic. even a fast food chain hates spaceflight

>>362 >two weeks has turned into two months it might actually be over this time

>>374 it doesn't help that if you google "/sfg/ - Spaceflight General" 8kun and fucking sharty show up on pages 1 and 2 and only page 3 shows 8chan (this thread) doing my part to help fix that and guide the refugees to safer (saner) harbor: /sfg/ - Spaceflight General /sfg/ - Spaceflight General /sfg/ - Spaceflight General /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

>>378 im surprised they even show up at all since google specifically filters out 8chan from search results

>>376 they need to be taught a lesson >>377 i actually haven't been keeping up since christmas and only came here to check if you lot survived the hackening what went wrong the last time? did they release any details?

yikes

>>378 click on the link in google when you search it. dont click it too often, maybe once or twice a day. it might help the ranking a little.

>>376 Based Wendy's. I will now buy more baconators.

>>380 not yet I don't think

>>381 geeeg aint no way sfg chuds linked their cringe NEET incel website on NSF 💀💀💀

>>362 I dislike how the orange clouds of NOx compounds. Is there some way to stop the atmosphere doing this?

>>388 Well you could do it in a thinner atmosphere, such as Mars for a random example, but then you have the issue of orange dust making clouds.

>>388 Simply remove the atmosphere

you see a qt3.14 aerospace girl. she's all alone. you walk over. what do you say?

>>395 put this on, i want to pretend that im fucking clear

>>395 Care to dock?

>>395 im going to rape you

>>395 I'd start farting and run away

>>399 no you wouldn't. you have shame

>>396 for me? it's the old lady.

>>401 >the old lady that doesnt look like shotwell

maybe zubrin went totally crazy because he realized his dream to personally live on mars will never happen. even worse: the mars mission wont happen the way he wants it to (with mini starship)

>>403 Maybe he should try working more on that NSWR idea if he wants more progress

>>405 Why can't /sfg/ do it?

>>381 >source? sfg of course kek

>>403 Zubrin is a broken record, once you've heard him speak for 30 minutes you know exactly what he will say for the next 30 years. He does not actually 'think'.

>>403 >even worse: the mars mission wont happen the way he wants it to This is a problem with a lot of old heads in the space industry. Just try to shoot down any proposal that doesn't align with the way they've decided things should be done. See JPL with MSR, where they've rigorously held onto their autistic mission structure they first devised in the 70s involving separately launched sample collection rovers and fetch rovers despite how impractical it is.

If you were the God of the US space program, able to appropriate whatever resources you want from the rest of the government (especially including DOD - what a money sink that is), what would you implement? I would prioritize the building of space infrastructure, such as giant, rotating space habitats manufactured from lunar materials, assembled in lunar obit after the structural components are brought up from the lunar factories using mass drivers, space elevators or an orbital loop. It's much easier doing all that from the Moon rather than from Earth. Such habitats can then be flown anywhere in the inner solar system, including Mars and Venus. People can live comfortably on them and tele-operate drones to work on the planetary surfaces..

>>411 >space elevators

>>412 Yeah, why the fuck bother with space elevators when Orbital Ring Systems make far more sense.

>>411 Focus all national efforts onto colonising Mars. Give SpaceX additional clearance and support to develop interplanetary vehicles. Dissolve JPL and other """science""" departments in or related to NASA, move all the staff and funding to a new department focused on researching and rapidly developing technologies and infrastructure for travelling to and living on Mars. Fast-track Dragonfly/DAVINCI/other interplanetary probes and divert funding away from Israel/Jewkraine to more interplanetary missions. Bar anyone over the age of 55 from taking any role in NASA and its related departments. Start a youth outreach program that drops DEI/woke shit in favour of promoting national identity and a bright future among the stars, because the Jews still haven't figured out that young people didn't fall for the love and equality shit that boomergolems did. I would visit each department once a week and ensure they are making steady progress. There will be consequences otherwise.

>>411 Also >space habitats Kike memeshit made to demoralise and kill interest in space. Imagine still falling for that crap in 2025.

>>411 I'd launch hundreds of military spysats and point them at other star systems. They're probably so far beyond anything publicly available that they could observe continents on exoplanets. Afterwards, launch probes at anything even remotely promising to scan for life, habitable worlds and prepare for human colonization. While that's all happening, I'd hire the above anon to oversee lunar colonization. Piss and shit on any country whining about moon colonialism. It belongs to those willing to go there and get shit done. Space manufacturing is absolutely the future for any serious space program, don't let the current pathetic state of ISRU fool you. Set up outposts on Mars and Venus. I don't see them being worthwhile for full colonization efforts, both planets have the drawbacks of earth (atmosphere, high gravity) with none of the inherent benefits (industry, easy access to resources, habitable). Jupiter is probably going to be the center of mankind's industry in the future, anything else can be handled by private entities if they find some way to do it better. Apart from planting a flag and doing some exploration, there's not much reason to go to any other planet in our solar system. Presumably, a century or two would have passed by this point and all the early probes and telescopes should have mapped out our neighborhood at the very least, so there's little reason to stick around here instead of going all in on interstellar colonization.

>>411 I'd focus on lunar factories for mining and smaller construction work, with a station at L1 for orbital processing, and construction that can't be done on the moon. L1 is a good position for the Moon-Earth-Mars run. You only need a little extra delta-v to travel on to Mars. Pic related shows L2 but L1 works almost as well and is better for staying in contact.

>>416 >there's not much reason to go to any other planet in our solar system

>>410 This sounds just like the problem Thomas Kuhn described about how scientific progress goes: it's just as attached to politics and fears rocking the boat as any other field that depends on consistency for a paycheck.

So you're telling me the same guy >theorized the existence of hycean worlds >found one >now it has life signs on it >and he's an indian and you expect me to believe this isn't some sort of scam?

>>413 Space elevators and an orbital ring aren't mutually exclusive. On the Moon, a space elevator can be built with currently-available materials. When you build a second one you can string a cable between them to save having to use a rocket to travel between them. After you do that a few times, there's your orbital ring.

>>421 Neat

>>418 >there's not much reason to go to any other planet in our solar system (than Mars, presumably). The way I see it, Venus can be terraformed and colonized (and is a better choice, long term) only if you homestead the whole planet first and establish a new, independent STATE consisting of an alliance of orbital habitats. Their over-arching project would be the gradual terra-forming of the planet. Why form a state? Because, if you just terraform the planet for the hell of it, what is to stop late-comers simply landing on it and taking the benefit of your centuries of hard work? A state is necessary in order to keep invaders and spongers out. Once temperatures have been reduced with a suitable sun-shade, you can run a space elevator down to the highest (and therefore coolest) point on the equator and start building a surface colony from there.

>>423 I don't think a space elevator can ever work on Venus, due to the high mass and miniscule rotation. Mercury is a good target for settlement. Power, minerals, and relatively little delta-v to elsewhere.

>>424 Alright, then a skyhook will suffice until materials science catches up and can manufacture industrial quantities of flawless nanotube cable.

>>411 OP here. I would also do some science projects that no-one seems to have thought of: 1. Collect samples from the Oort Cloud (virgin comets) and test the chirality (handedness) of any organic molecules found. It's an easy way of distinguishing biological from abiotic material since the latter has both (left and right handed) enantiomers in equal amounts while the former is invariably one or the other. Why comets? Because they get exchanged with other stars that pass close enough to the Sun every few million years. It would gather evidence for or against panspermia. The Europa Clipper might have such a capability; I'm not sure.

>>427 2. Look for stars being hit with relativistic kinetic weapons, which would be a kind of techno-signature. The point is to gather evidence one way or the other for the Dark Forest resolution of the Fermi Paradox.

>>426 Did you read it?

>>429 like a month ago I think its basically just rehashing stuff from the blog i.e. space mattresses >Anchored to the ground every hundred feet or so to provide pressure relief, a kevlar-reinforced transparent shell can provide a warm, breathable, natural-light environment with effectively unlimited ceiling height. This material is similar to a high-performance yacht sail, and could even be manufactured on Mars with reasonably rudimentary processes.

>>407 4ASS (8ASS now?) is chronically and historically underfunded.

>>427 >>217 >soft power What does that mean, exactly? If precedents here on Earth are anything to go by, I suspect it includes "sanctions" to strangle anyone who isn't on board with ZOG's social and economic policies. Basically, the use of SWIFT and NATO to intimidate, threaten and starve un-submissive states just short of bombing them. What I hope for is to use space to get away from all that.

>>217 >>271 Star Whores?

Say it with me: madam astronaut

>>434 nigger

>>434 ma damn astronaut

>>437 What pokemon is this?

>>438 Ondatra zibethicus

>>420 well logically the guy who theorized them is going to be the one spending the most time looking for one

>>121 This site is better so I'm migrating here.

>>124 > /sci/ boards, and the ones that do, are so slow, they're basically dead. that's just business as usual though innit

>>441 She's really cute in a jewess way

Any interesting payloads on this launch?

>>446 Supposedly Vast's Haven Demo was going to be on this launch, but Vast hasn't said anything about it recently and SpaceX hasn't mentioned it on the stream.

>won't even show payload deploy anymore lame, SpaceX has gotten really lazy and formulaic with the webcasts

>>448 They're probably carrying something they aren't supposed to show.

>>449 that or just lazy, they had deploy video for the past two missions

>>448 >>449 >>450 They said on the stream they're not showing payload views at the request of one of the customers; it's probably because of the Korean spy satellite on board.

>>451 Oh makes sense, I didn't catch the start so didn't know

Surprised no one's posted the pics from Lucy's fly by of the Donaldjohanson asteroid yesterday.

>>453 When can we expect a followup of Didymos and Dimorphos? I want I to see how rekt that faggot moonlet is

space rocks are so thrilling

>>455 I want one of my very own.

>>454 The Hera probe is supposed to arrive there in December of next year. It will be orbiting Didymos for at least a few months so it should get plenty of good shots of (what's left of) Dimorphos.

>>444 lawful autism vs chaotic autism (grimes)

There are recent reports that Musk has opened a League account

>>441 What's his endgame?

>>460 wants to make money with Musk's companies as a vehicle

post your predictions for IFT 9

>>463 goes perfectly

>>463 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

>>462 ship 35 hasn't static fired yet

>>463 i've had a shit ton of dreams recently that all have me watching a starship stream where something goes wrong.

Long March 10 VABs construction

>>468 this would be alarming if we didnt have spacex

NASA's SpaceX 32nd Commercial Resupply Services Rendezvous and Docking - 16 minutes to dock

>>470 who on the space station monitors the docking anyway

>>469 Does it make sense to think that way? Long March 10 and 10A are for the Chinese manned lunar and LEO program, respectively. Not only does America's Artemis depend on components which are not provided by SpaceX, I don't think SpaceX can be counted on to deliver its contribution to Artemis perfectly on schedule either

>>468 Long March 10 pad construction. Pic is from a few weeks ago. I'm posting it for those who might not have seen it

>>473 >Does it make sense to think that way? yes because without spacex we would be relying on blue origin or some shit and would be even further behind

>>471 Jonny Kim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Kim And NASA just asked the ISS astronauts to stop exercising.

>>475 You still don't think there's any reason to worry that Artemis 3 might be delayed so much that the Chinese land on the moon before Americans get back there?

>>477 even if its delayed it wouldnt be for very long. with blue or whoever it might be delayed to the mid 2030s or beyond.

>>478 Maybe, but I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that there's no reason to be alarmed. Even if SX's HLS is ready on time, which I doubt it will, other components might not be. It would be kinda embarrassing if the Chinese are driving around golf carts and teeing off on the moon while Americans are stuck on the ground, even if the embarrassment only lasts for a few years. Besides, didn't BO in the initial 2021 contracting round propose a much simpler lander that could be ready sooner, because schedule was considered paramount for Artemis 3?

>>411 My number one priority would be more R&D into (even) cheaper launch systems. Once you have really cheap launch, everything else becomes easy.

leftists: we have our own space african now the space african:

>>466 Trump deleted the FAA and EPA, so now Musk can launch

>>482 > so now Musk can launch so why hasn't he?

>>483 Just shut up dude

What the FUCK is this retardation?

>>484 >they hated Jesus because he told the truth

>>459 it's over

>>485 The Gateway opens a gateway that astronauts can pass through to reach the Moon

>>488 It's good that they're finally building a gateway to pass through the impenetrable vacuum of space

>>489 I thought it was the firmament that was impenetrable??

>>490 I'll penetrate jessie my penis

>>491 thirsty jeetposters shall be keelhauled without spacesuit

>>492 i wuld put this penis in jessi's keyhole

https://x.com/eager_space/status/1914806709702549664 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q3Z17UeJCY

Our influence knows no bounds.

Hop when?

>>497 I propose "Urectum".

>>497 >>499 Caudal

>>497 How bout Georgium Sidus?

>>122 The autist diaspora T_T

>>416 Didn't finish reading because you're retarded. Why is it so hard to grasp just how far several light years is? And the planets around those systems aren't going to be habitable, they probably won't even be pseudo-habitable proto earth types you could walk around with just an oxygen mask on. Before going interstellar it's necessary to spread around sol, figure out how to build viable colonies on every kind of surface, including artificial ones in space. If you never figure out how to make an independent, self sufficient colony on mars, how do you plan on getting one set up on bumfuck V in orbit of a red dwarf 10ly away? Where's that popsci image from like a year ago

>>497 Why was the Greek name "Ouranos" not adopted?

>>504 Anon... >Ouranos >Uranus I know it's hard to tell but these are actually the same word, the latter simply being the anglicized form of the original.

>>505 NTA but the alternate spelling (i.e. Ouranos) would have been the better option. I think that’s what he was trying to say. As for why they went with “Uranus,” well it’s more straight forward of a spelling and I don’t think they were as childish back then and thought ‘your anus’ would be a silly little thing people got caught up on

>>504 Because planets are named after Roman gods Eg the sensible and matronly Venus, not the slutty and foolish Aphrodite

>>505 the anglicized version sounds nothing like the greek

>>507 Then it should be Caelus

>>507 >not the slutty and foolish Aphrodite We can award that name to proxima b, then

>>509 More like Gaylus

>>511 dude you are so fucking funny bro

>>511 Lmao gottem Qaelus Queers on suicide watch

flight 9 is gonna go flawlessly, right guys?

>>514 It'll be a flawless failure

>>514 I sure hope so, they've spent a lot more time preparing for this one.

so astra pivoted to cargo delivery? what are the chances of them succeeding? https://spacenews.com/astra-targets-cargo-delivery-with-rocket-4-in-pentagon-backed-plan/

>>504 Looks stupid

elon please poop and pee in my mouth

>>479 aside from prestige is there any advantage on getting there before anyone else? territorial claim? otherwise being behind but getting there with an architecture that allows for rapid and frequent follow up trips with more equipment might be the better play

>>519 doubt

>>511 >>513 >anti-caleid niggas have to fuck with the word to make it funny >anti-uranid gods need only say it out loud CAELUS 1 URANUS -9999999999999999

>>523 >architecture that allows for rapid and frequent follow up trips That's the Chinese architecture.

>>526 different names, same shit, you cælustards must be freezing to death in that shithole. Also, not one single interesting moon like Titan or Triton...

>>528 >can't appreciate the chill serenity of perfect undisturbed cyan skies, unmarred by clouds, ground or moons NGMI

>>529 >chill serenity of perfect undisturbed cyan skies Just imagine. Would be a nice place for some vacations.

>>527 so there is no material reason to rush from anyone's perspective then

>New Lunar Soil Brick Machine for Moon Building https://youtu.be/QhngNrQ80ag

Musk said he will step out of DOGEs most time consuming things next month during Teslas earnings call most of the heavy lifting getting the people and teams into place is done, but he will stay in an advisory role until the end of Trumps term to make sure the fraud etc doesn't come roaring back immediately perhaps that means he will dedicate more time to SpaceX as well

>>533 https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914796618089652508

>>503 >Didn't finish reading you should go do that then, zoom zoom. I know it's hard for you lot to read posts longer than a few sentences, but just try, okay? Now all you've done is autistically laser focus on a single issue (which I indirectly addressed anyway) and embarrassed yourself by not spending 30 additional seconds reading my post and processing it.

>>416 >I'd launch hundreds of military spysats and point them at other star systems. They're probably so far beyond anything publicly available that they could observe continents on exoplanets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction-limited_system tl;dr, physics says that to resolve the continents on distant planets, you need a large aperture and can't do it without one.

>>536 For reference: the angular diameter of the Earth at 50 Light Years is 0.0055 milliarc seconds. This requires a primary mirror roughly 100 meters wide.

>>536 That's interesting. I wonder if there's some way to nigger rig a bunch of smaller orbital telescopes in different orbits together into a single system to get around the limit...

>>538 You can do this with synthetic apertures, but the high resolution needs to be computed using the separate telescopes as inputs, and the relative positions and timings of each telescope need to be known to atomic clock and sub-wavelength precision. This isn't really feasible, which is why no one bothers outside radio telescopes, where sub-wavelength precision is actually feasible.

>>538 Well that's what an interferometer array is But then you lack light collecting power, even though you have have a synthetic wide aperture An actual giant mirror mogs an array But in space you probably could have a 100m or 1km diameter mirror quite easily

This thread contains literally all the activity on this board. The post numbers are consecutive.

>>541 so just like on 4chan kek

reminder this is what we were hoping the night sky would look like but instead the astroonomerfags bitched and cried and won instead

>>541 4chan /sci/ was basically worthless outside of hosting /sfg/.

Is this possible?

>>546 Anything is possible with enough balls

>>523 You say that as if prestige doesn't matter. It does. Prestige is the main reason why anyone's going at all. >an architecture that allows for rapid and frequent follow up trips with more equipment might be the better play The Chinese are doing that as well. Long March 9 is intended to be the equipment truck for lunar base construction. Also, I think it's very much worth noting that, although Long March 10 is not reusable, the Chinese are using a very high degree of commonality with other systems to reduce fixed costs. Almost nothing about the Chinese lunar architecture is bespoke, except for the Lanyue lander, the suit and the rover. The engines, manufacturing facilities, pad, VABs, capsule, etc, are all common with other systems not related to the lunar program. Starship HLS has the potential to benefit from both reusability and the sharing of fixed costs with non-lunar systems, but those benefits are mostly negated by the involvement of SLS/Orion. SLS has some component commonality with Vulcan and the Shuttle, but the Shuttle hasn't been around for a long time so there's not much benefit to be had from that. This is without even considering that SLS and Orion are grossly mismanaged projects.

>>533 All it means is that (1) as a special government employee, he is legally limited to 130 days of formal employment per year, and (2) he recognizes that the Tesla brand is taking a major beating from his association with DOGE He'll almost certainly keep directing DOGE in the same way as before. Technically, he isn't even the director of DOGE right now, he's just an "advisor".

>>548 I think it's also worth pointing out that, since the LM6A, 6C, 8, 8A and 12 rockets will almost certainly become obsolete by the early/mid 2030s, much of the YF-100 and YF-75 production lines' output should be available for the LM10, enabling rapid and frequent follow up trips to the moon

>>206 Isn't the 2029 target old news? The Chinese have been talking about a "before 2030" target date since at least 2023. The news here is that the 5th launch of Long March 10 will be the one that carries the first landing party.

>>541 we finally got our space board...but at what cost?

>>552 It's not so bad, really. Just quiet.

>>548 The SLS/Constellation project does benefit from reusing some of KSC's infrastructure, but that was negated somewhat by building the ML-1 for Ares 1, modifying it for SLS block 1, and then building a new ML-2 because modifying ML-1 for SLS block 1B would've been too much work... https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/nasas-second-large-launch-tower-has-gotten-stupidly-expensive/

>>532 Exciting if this thing actually does get sent to the Moon in 2028 and gets tested for real

>>245 Why aren't they astronauts? Aren't astronauts merely people who fly into space, just like aeronauts are people fly through the air? What they're not is *professional* astronauts

>>541 Some things never change

>>541 I wonder if the board owner is around for all we know, there's no mod or jannie >>245 >>556 if you want to be technical, Gagarin was a passenger too the manual controls were locked and Vostok was automated, much like Sputnik

>>558 Does piloting the craft have anything to do with being an astronaut? Some define "astronaut" as being trained for going to space, some define it as going to space in a professional capacity, some define it as going to space at all. I've yet to see a definition in any dictionary or encyclopedia that takes into account whether you manually pilot the craft or not.

>>206 >>551 So I assume this means the plan is Y1: Flight test of LM10 + high speed reentry test of Mengzhou Y2 & Y3: Full unmanned test of lunar landing Y4 & Y5: Manned lunar landing

>>558 Gagarin’s flight was akin to modern Dragon flights. I believe he was given an override code and had access to manual controls that he trained on. Going to give my two cents and say that even if it was just a bunch of sitting, the early days of exploration count as astronauts simply because they were pushing the boundaries. The X-15 flights were suborbital but a leap in humanity’s achievements. To be desu, I think that Ham the chimp has WAY more of a right to the title “astronaut” than the current New Shepard carnival ride participants, because of the context

>>561 If we want to distinguish between the pioneering astronauts of the early space age and amateur astronauts who pay for a quick joyride into space, why not just use descriptive terms such as "pioneer astronaut" and "amateur astronaut"? I think we should simply accept that the term "astronaut" will be devalued as spaceflight becomes more accessible, instead of twisting ourselves into pretzels trying to come up with new astronaut definitions that exclude people we don't think deserve to be bestowed with a prestigious title

>>563 I don’t disagree, but where do you cut that off? The USA did an 8-year speedrun figuring out suborbit, orbit, rendezvous, docking, then moon landing. They then transferred to the space shuttle which could afford to carry “payload specialists” that just sat there. But orbit was still very pioneering in the early shuttle days, bringing up people like teachers to orbit was novel. Are these pioneers? Or amateurs? It was their profession after all—by definition they were “professional astronauts,” government employees paid to sit in the shuttle mid deck and float around for a few days

>paid to go to space astronaut >pay to go to space astrotourist

The problem first started when society began autistically differentiating between cosmonaut and astronaut

>>565 >Are these pioneers? Or amateurs? I think the term "professional astronauts", as you wrote, works well to distinguish them from amateur astronauts

>>566 What if someone else pays for you to go to space in an amateur capacity, e.g. like the would-be dearMoon flight?

>>569 Very true. What is to be said though about someone like Jared, or the Fram2 mission? First polar orbit ever, with scientific payloads? And they paid out of pocket to do it? I know it’s no longer happening but what if Jared went and saved Hubble? What if someone paid to do a Venus flyby, or a Mars flyby? Things to consider. Perhaps the distinction is as simple as “space tourist” who soyfaces the whole time while enjoying a trip, versus “active participant” who trains to do something useful or groundbreaking. Idk

>>566 So on Polaris Dawn, Jared Isaacman was a space tourist and the rest were astronauts?

>>567 Nah, that's soulful actually. Astronaut, cosmonaut, and taikonaut sounds cooler than just astronaut.

>>571 >soyfaces Is the root problem here that Perry et al weren't treating the flight with the solemnity and dignity that spacestans think it deserves?

>>573 sovl: >astronaut >cosmonaut >taikonaut >perigee >apogee cringe: >apolune >perilune >apomars >perimars >etc..

Based on their outfits, I propose the word "assnaut" to describe those aboard NS-31

>>572 He spacewalked with a suit and verified it worked, so he did actual astronaut type work.

>>577 that wasn't the definition given

>>578 Fair point. As you might have guessed, I'm a different anon than the "if you pay" guy. I think Jared counts as an astronaut, even though he paid for the ride, because he did the work.

>>579 I think the whole argument is kind of retarded

>>580 It's not an unreasonable to discuss; being a passenger in an airplane doesn't make you an aviator, and the title "astronaut" has a similar level of prestige, so it's worth figuring out how and where the line is drawn, now that merit is no longer a requirement to go to space.

>>581 >being a passenger in an airplane doesn't make you an aviator It does make you an aeronaut though? Maybe the problem is that the definition of astronaut doesn't actually match the connotations of prestige that people have unjustifiably come to attach to the word

Which will launch first?

At what scale would it become feasible to replace helium or hydrogen as lifting gas with vacuum? The problem with vacuum for lift is that you need a strong and rigid structure instead of a cheap balloon for helium or a less cheap balloon for hydrogen. But as you scale up the walls are a smaller and smaller fraction of the volume so their thickness matters less. (they still would be 100% of the mass in a vacuum one, not sure how that squares) Balloons on gas giants are impractical because the upper atmosphere is both diffuse and mostly hydrogen so using an H balloon for lift has little effect. But if you could do vacuum you could float in any atmosphere.

>>545 >4chan /sci/ was basically worthless outside of hosting /sfg/ Coronafags basically wiped everything off the board that wasn't in a general and the mods let spam fill in the gaps while deleting actual on topic threads, so I broadly agree

China is getting very serious about the Moon now. I have more faith in the bugs than the burgers at this point.

>>588 *bergers

>>588 *bergers

>>548 >prestige is the main reason why anyone's going at all i don't think so, i think it's more fear or suspicion that the other guy could have material advantage in claiming the moon

4chin coming back when >>545 >worthless outside of hosting /sfg/. The good thing about this new place is that when I accidentally click on the catalog link I don't happen to come across a gorillion threads about IQ tests, muh vaccines, and 0.9999=1, damn 4chan's /sci/ really was awful.

Cosmonauts are all Passengernauts

>>594 >Passengers It was a good movie, I don't care what you guys say.

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1915165757505237404 >The Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation will vote on Jared Isaacman's nomination to lead NASA on Wednesday, April 30.

sfg's last words https://warosu.org/sci/thread/16644560 >And you're even stupider kek

>>595 I liked it too, anon.

>>599 >The Carrizo Comecrudo Tribe considers Boca Chica Beach to be sacred ground and they do not trust SpaceX or Elon Musk as stewards of the land.

>>596 Literally why did it take so long

>>596 Spoiler alert: He's our new NASA administrator. Now lets skip the formalities and get him to his desk ASAP. He has a lot of asses to kick.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1915158351195123813 >Many improvements still to come. >The ugly, unreliable and heavy bolted flange between the thrust chamber and hot gas manifold will become a welded joint. talking about Raptor v3

>>603 Twitter is so gay now

>>599 >>600 the "tribe" is unrecognized btw not by the state, not even by other tribes. it's a pure political tool

>>585 Some references on the wiki page might be of interest to you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_airship#21st_century >In 2004–2007, to address strength to weight ratio issues, Akhmeteli and Gavrilin addressed choice of four materials, specifically I220H beryllium (elemental 99%), boron carbide ceramic, diamond-like carbon, and 5056 Aluminum alloy (94.8% Al, 5% Mg, 0.12% Mn, 0.12%Cr) in a honeycomb double layer.[11] >In 2021, they extended this research; a "finite element analysis was employed to demonstrate that buckling can be prevented", focusing on a "shell of outer radius R > 2.11 m containing two boron carbide face skins of thickness 4.23 x 10−5 R each that are reliably bonded to an aluminum honeycomb core of thickness 3.52 x 10−3 R".[12] >At least two papers (in 2010 and 2016) have discussed the use of graphene as an outer membrane.[2][13] What a way to live though. Suspended under a gigantic vacuum chamber in the water-poor atmosphere of Jupiter or Saturn, with no chance to ever leave due to the horrendous escape velocity.

>>607 Would be amazing for a robotic mission. It could also be a fucking rad as hell prison colony. The escape velocity isn't that bad. Fuel is free!

>>608 Hot hydrogen would be more practical than vacuum. >reactor slung below a gasbag >takes in hydrogen and heats it

>>610 I like the passive support of vacuum more than the need to actively maintain a hot air balloon. At least on earth if you shut the heat off it will slowly cool and descend more or less gently to the ground. On a surfaceless gas planet it's kind of like living in a helicopter above the ocean. The real problem with buoyant structures for the gas giants is that it would only really work on Caelus. Everywhere else is supertornado 24/7.

>>611 Your passive vacuum is an active potential energy disaster though lol. The oxygen-less atmosphere would omit the combustion worries of a hot hydrogen lifter. A vacuum airship would need some mechanical engineering miracles just to safely exist

>>611 >Caelus Huh? Is that a new exoplanet? I lose track of their names

Simple replace Jupiter's atmosphere with carbon dioxide

>>612 >mechanical engineering miracles Yeah, I just assumed that as a given considering the entire hypothetical hinges on them existing. >>613 Uranus. Caelus is the Roman version.

>>614 Blow the whole atmosphere right off with a fuckhuge hairdryer

>>612 >>615 You mean material science. Mechanical engineering is gears and levers and stuff. >>616

New Jupiter record mission to plunge into the lower atmosphere, deeper than Galileo could. I want

>>595 i liked the ship from passengers. they went for realism and it worked well enough. it really shows what early interstellar colonization could look like.

>>620 well, maybe its middle era colonization and not early. early might look more like the drum from the expanse or that ship from avatar. the ship from passengers would be at least 200 years more advanced than those other ships.

>>620 >Realism >Spin gravity switches on and off instantaneously so the heroine gets stuck in the middle of a blob of water when the swimming pool floats away

>>622 whats wrong with that?

>>618 is this loss

>>623 For doing gravity to switch off, you'd have to spin down the ship over a period of minutes, during which everyone would be knocked on their asses and be pushed against the spinward wall. And the opposite to spin up again. In the movie, she's swimming in the pool, then instantly gravity is turned off and the water floats into the air like a blob. She's stuck in the middle and is running out of air, then the gravity instantly turns back on and water falls back into the pool It's written like magic artificial gravity star-trek style

>>626 there's still 8 months left, kid.

How come they don't use Cybertrucks?

Hey guys, excellent thread. Glad to see there's anons who follow this stuff. Not sure how long you guys will be hanging around, but for the time being I'd like to grab one or two vols just to keep an eye on the thread. There hasn't been any issues so far, but I'd like to know there's someone who can deter spam and alert me if any schizos pop up. If you have any interest, please shoot an e-mail to codexx (at) cock (dot) li.

She is famous now

>>630 the guy behind clear is a marketing genius

>>625 Ignore it, just like I'd told you to ignore the dust storms in The Martian.