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/pcbg/ - PC Building General Anonymous 04/18/2025 (Fri) 19:02:45 No. 17989
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE. Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/ Provide specific use cases. State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped. Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC >CASE (from $ to $$$) mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, >CPU Budget: 12400F, 7600 Gaming: AMD X3D Workstation: 9950X3D, 9950X, 7950X >COOLER AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: Lian Li Galahad II LCD Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2 ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67 >MOTHERBOARD AVOID ASRock for X3D >RAM DDR4: 2x16GB 3600CL18 DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 >SSD (OS drive) Budget: Silicon Power UD90 Mid range: SN7100 Premium: 990 PRO, SN850X Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5, 9100 PRO >GPU 1080p: RX 9070, RX 9070 XT; Budget: Arc B580 1440p: RTX 5070 TI, RX 9070 XT 4K: RTX 5090; Budget: see 1440p ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/7XecPGL >PSU https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ >MONITOR https://pcmonitors.info/recommendations/ >OS Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
[Expand Post] >CASE FANS Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack) High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 Previous:
>>20897 Yeah bought a new one on amazon, comes today. Gygabyte 850w platinum something something. I nwver keep the receit, so no rma for me.
>>20846 that's me (i bought)
Is 400$ too much for a motherboard?
>>20918 Absolutely, get a nice cheap B650E motherboard. No real reason to go beyond since this whole generation is kinda messed up logical wise.
>>20909 i got a 7800 xt recently for a good price, people were saying its retarded to buy them but cheapest alternatives were starting from 200 euros more minimum
>>20919 How's it looking for ddr5 and the current am5 generation Does it look like they'll last a decent while longer that a long term investment in a current motherboard I currently have a previous generation motherboard ddr4 am4 chipset I also have a 4070s gpu which I won't need to upgrade for with the current rate of progress at least 5 to 10 years
>>20945 Well it looks good. Sinde ddr6 isnt out yet, ddr5 is the only option. I have an 3600x with ddr4 still rocking. Basically get good ram, a nice b650e board and you are good to go for the next 5+ years. Especially with x3d processors. Like usual first batch of ddr6 will be "slow" so you may skip the early adopter crap as a whole. Tl;dr. Get nice ram, a b650e motherboard for less than 220 bucks and you are good to go.
>>20950 >>20945 Why should I get DDR5 or DDR6 over keeping my cheap DDR4?
>>20950 Ddr5 is in a good place now. We have low latency kits like 6000cl28 and cl26 available already and higher density 2x64gb kits are also being released. A new generation of ddr always sucks compared to the previous mature ddr like how it took ddr5 12-18 months for 6400cl32 kits to finally be cheaper than good 3600cl16 kits
>>20952 Unless you have dual rank 3200mgz 4x8gb or 2x16gb or better sticks, ddr4 has really poor performance compared to any 6000cl30 2x16gb kits out there
>>20956 Meant for >>20945
>>20959 >>20963 >>20956 I just have 700gb ddr4 and don't want to piss money away upgrading, so I want to know the specifics >It performs better How much better?
>>20965 >700gb ddr5 Carry on then. There's no good replacement for >128gb ddr4 yet
>>20952 I assumed you are the guy about to upgrade. Kepp your ddr4, it works fine. But for aomething new, id reccomend good ddr5 and have fun.
>>20975 >>20979 Oki doki, thank you anons
Also finished the change at my pc. Old psu was faulty all works as expected now
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I've been feeling like my card has been consistently underperforming in every single game I tested it on for almost a year now, my wife kept insisting it was all in my head and so I finally got around to checking it with gpuz and saw this shit. Left is my card, right is founder's edition. I have a three year warranty should I rma?
>>20991 Seems to be driver related anon
>>20993 I've tried just about ever driver out there with same results.
>>20991 Right seems to be overclocked so their numbers are not stock values. Anyway that doesn't preclude your specific 4080S from having problems that cause bad performance
>>20991 How did you figure out it was underperforming? Like it doesn't boost to 2.7ghz or it underperforms greatly in 3dmark or what?
>>21005 I'd look up benchmarking videos of people playing the same exact game on the same exact setup. Most recent example is the oblivion remaster, everyone else seems to be able to get stable 60fps on dlss quality without framegen and I'm only getting something like 45fps in the same situations with the same cpu, with dlss in performance mode, still needing framegen to ensure it never drops below 60.
>>21009 Its just nuts to me when I watch my wife gets consistently better performance on the same game at 1440p with raytracing maxxed out on fsr quality no framegen when I specifically went out of my way buy a 4080 super over the 7900xtx for the better raytracing performance. My card should be 720p path tracing future proofed, and I sacrificed vram I could've utilized for better vr performance for this? Infuriating. Both our systems have an 7800x3d chip. Though our motherboards are different make. Mine is a msi b650 gaming plus wifi 7e26. Bios is properly updated along with chipset drivers. I've tried multiple different versions of nvidia drivers at this point with proper cleanup each time. I truly regret not just getting the 7900xtx at this point on every conceivable level because at least if my system was amd based I could finally tell microsoft to kill themselves and return to linux. But I can't even do that because nvidia support is absolute dogshit to the point where I'm literally better off fucking passing through the gpu to a windows vm. Holy fuck.
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no power supply yet
>>21027 If it bothers you so much then rma it I guess Fingers crossed they send you a 5080 replacement
Anons, I would love if you could help me out with this build, it's my first one ever and I'm a super retard, could anyone help me see if this is a good build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7rmg4p I picked the 9070 XT since it's a bit cheaper than the RTX 5080, I just want it to run 4K games at max settings with stable 60+FPS, and the other resolutions well... a stable 120+, from my research from various places I managed to put that build, but I want to know how is it? And in the due case I don't find a 9070 XT what are my other options? I would love to get a 5080 but well... they are rather spread out and I don't know a reliable site to buy them aside from Amazon, and NewEgg I never tried it before, any help to this poor retarded anon? My budget is 2500 but I can squeeze a bit more, but if I can downgrade some other parts then I would appreciate it, my use is gaming and I'm from Mexico mis amigos
>>20554 oh god anon why return that steaming hot garbage and get 2080 ti asap they're the same price about
>>21069 What's the point of buying the current thing? What vidya can't be run on a 7700x/7900 GRE?
>>21028 sovl
>>21069 9070xt at that price is totally not worth it. Could you get a 5070ti instead? Dlss is also more performant at the same image quality as fsr4 and it's also found in much more games
>>21069 >https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-windforce-gv-n507twf3-16gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814932781 Get this 5070ti for $825 instead. Newegg has been ok over the several years I've used them despite other people's complaints. The 5070ti is also about 90% as fast as a 5080 and the same 16gb vram so its a much better buy.
>>21080 I don't know, I just want something cool that would last me for years, and if I can afford it, then I would love to get it, but if you recommend me those cards then I guess it's good, how do they compare to the 9070 XT or the 5070ti? >>21135 I would love to play with DLSS but since I have an AMD CPU in mind I won't be able to enjoy the full benefits right? Like that SAM thing anons mention, and I feel like Intel is a bit overpriced, but I heard good things of FSR 4 so if it's a sweet spot I'll take it, the thing is I feel like all NVIDIA cards are rather scarce, so to find a trusty one will be hard... that's why I go with the 9070 XT, but maybe if on October/November when I buy the parts, the NVIDIA cards will get in stock then I might get a 5070 ti or if I can squeeze just a bit more then the 5080 >>21142 Hmm, then if you say the 5070ti is about the same as the 5080 then I might get it, then I'll keep an eye out for this one in particular, I'll still be on the fence till the end of the year and save my money... then dump it all on my first built PC, I'll put my faith in Newegg then
>>21069 >>21146 DLSS is pretty cpu agnostic as long as you have a 6+ core modern cpu. SAM is a bandaid for radeon's driver/uarch inefficiency to perform at nvidia's level and requires an amd cpu to work well. FSR4 is pretty good but the only issue with it is that its too new to be mass adopted the slightly worse DLSS3 already being in 100s of games.
>>21146 >9070 XT or the 5070ti? not good at at. 7700 is at best a 5060ti competitor but without fsr4/dlss and 7900gre is a slower 9070xt without fsr4/dlss
>>21166 >>21146 I mean the 7700x AMD CPU I'm not up to date at all after that generation, it does however seem like graphics requirements isn't accelerating in game releases. In general I would say don't go crazy on CPU it isn't going to be fully utilized in vidya because GPU throttles first every time. Also you don't need 64gb RAM if you're just playing vidya 32 is fine. Also I know power on that site list is within 100w, but if you're getting a PSU with a 10 year warranty anyway (most PSU's but definitely double check. If Corsair doesn't offer it get Super Flower or Seasonic) I'd go 850w to improve likelihood of reuse in the next build. Tape on the receipt and forget about it. Was 4000->5000 Nvidia a very big improvement? Are the costs comparable? Oblivion/Helldivers/BG3/Cyb2077 on high all resulted in 45-50~ FPS on 1440p I have a 2080ti, it was enough for me I guess. Also if you're ever able to get a thermalright dual fan instead of water cooling, do it. Radiators in AIOs/custom loops have a failure risk which is completely unnecessary with AMD a lot of the time because their chips are cooler but again 9800X3D I don't know a lot about them. If money is no object and you're kewl blowing 2k you should go for two 4K monitors (or one ultrawide if you like curved), bookshelf speakers and an amp it'll be badass >t. worked for a custom PC shop in the past
>>21290 Also may wanna plug your setup into a Tripp Lite Isobar™ the 75$ version comes with a $50,000 lifetime policy Surge suppressors wear out over time


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