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/chatapp/ - Chat App General Anonymous 04/21/2025 (Mon) 20:35:08 No. 18780
>WELCOME TO THE CHAT APP GENERAL! This is the place to discuss all things chat app related, discuss the likes of XMPP and other chat apps and protocols. Whether you're looking for recommendations, troubleshooting tips, or just want to share your favorite chat apps, you've come to the right place! >WHAT IS XMPP? XMPP is an open-source, decentralized messaging protocol that allows for real-time communication. It's great for privacy-conscious users and supports features like group chats, file transfers, and more. If you're new to XMPP, check out some popular clients like Gajim, Conversations or Dino. >WHAT IS MUMBLE? Mumble is an open-source, low-latency voice chat app. It features high-quality audio, positional audio, and is designed for real-time communication. Mumble operates on a client-server model, where users connect to a server to communicate with each other. It also supports text chat and has a simple, user-friendly interface. >GETTING STARTED >Servers: Prosody (XMPP) ejabberd (XMPP) Mumble (Mumble) >Clients: Gajim (XMPP, PC) Conversations (XMPP, Android) Monal (XMPP, iOS/macOS) Mumble (Mumble, PC) Mumla (Mumble, Android) >SHARE YOUR SETUP Post your current chat app setup, what are you daily driving rn? >USEFUL LINKS XMPP: https://xmpp.org/ Mumble: https://www.mumble.info/ XMPP Software: https://xmpp.org/software/ OMEMO Supported clients: https://omemo.top/ Public MUCs: https://search.jabber.network/ >NEWS https://xmpp.org/2025/01/xmpp-at-fosdem-2025/ https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117 https://simplex.chat/blog/20250114-simplex-network-large-groups-privacy-preserving-content-moderation.html https://discourse.imfreedom.org/t/pidgin-3-0-experimental-1-has-been-released/227 >REMEMBER Keep it civil and respect each other's choices. No shilling for proprietary apps.
I've been self-hosting ejabberd for a few years now, mostly as a private chat setup among a group of volunteers and friends. We all use the Conversations app on Android, and it's been super reliable for day-to-day stuff. But last summer, things got real. We had a series of wildfires tear through our area, and I volunteer with the local fire department. Cell service was spotty at best, and commercial messaging apps were choking with delays or outright failing. Thankfully, I had already set up a few meshnet nodes across the valley using Yggdrasil, and I’d routed our XMPP instance through them just as a kind of “just in case” experiment. Well… that experiment paid off. We were able to keep in touch across multiple teams, even deep in the forest where normal connectivity was a joke. Conversations handled everything smoothly—offline message queuing, fast reconnects, and the battery usage wasn’t bad either. Even file transfers and location pings worked when we needed them. Messages went through when nothing else did. The crazy part? We didn’t have to change anything. No new apps. No reconfiguring servers. Just a resilient protocol doing what it was built to do, over an ad-hoc network that would’ve made 90s sysadmins weep. If anyone's ever wondered if XMPP is “too old” or “not modern enough,” I can assure you—when things fall apart, it’s exactly what you want in your toolkit. Stay safe out there. —M
antonizoon hates xmpp
>>18787 idk who that faggot is
>>18781 Nice post, makes me want to delete my empty Matrix instance kek
>>18781 this is fanfiction, and appears AI generated
i've just started using matrix. what are everyones thoughts about the matrix protocol?
>>18895 it's down bad pretty much proprietary centralized backend at this point
>>18903 shame. what about self host? is xmpp the only viable alternative? surely it's a better solution than discord
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>>18905 xmpp and mumble bro why even use anything else
would XMPP let me screenshare? movie nights/streaming games for friends are the only things keeping me on discord and i'd rly like to purge it soon
>>19126 i don't think so. maybe check Revolt--open source discord alternative. still in early development and should be bringing E2EE at some point soon.
this deserves some more conversation
Is there something that looks like discord but really it's just xmpp and also it's private? I want to replace discord but all the alternatives are shit and a single room or have a poopy gui, I just want control of my own shit
>>21174 gajim literally looks like discord and i HATE it
>>21178 >No rooms >just message one person Doesn't suit my needs or meet the description, does look crappy though
>>21179 >No rooms it do >just messsage one person it can >meet the description it does >does look crappy though it is
Any recommended instance for XMPP?
>>21174 Same, I tried to get everyone I know off discord and switched to riot or revolt whatever it's called, but they're all so used to niche features in discord that I'll never fucking use, some of them I think buy nitro(?) for premium bullshit too I just want a chat client while they want what is functionally an imageboard with skype built in and bots for whatever the fuck they use them for.
>>21225 Riot is no better than discord unfortunately, I like using session but theres nothing out there that matches discords gui, even though it's painfully simple to match it or even improve on it
>>21225 Having the functionality of an image board plus skype is a great thing though. At least from how I use it with friends. >drop-in drop-out voice chat >easy streaming/screen sharing >shitposting memes to each other >basic text chat function >multiple rooms/channels to keep things organized Discord also has qol stuff like replying to specific messages so conversations don't get disorganized like in IRC. And reactions to messages are useful, we basically just give a thumbs up to indicate "I saw your message but I won't clutter up the chat with another post." And the noise cancelation/input output levels are easily adjustable within the client, where others are often limited so you have to dig into device settings which isn't intuitive, especially for less technically savvy users. All the other shit like bots, nitro, and whatever the fuck boosting is can eat shit. And fuck every retard that tries to use discord to replace forums. Functionally I see little wrong with Discord for my uses, but its status as a data harvesting machine is AIDS and the moment I find something that fits the above criteria for chilling/shitposting among freinds, I'm jumping ship. I checked out matrix a while ago, but the immediate problem of needing to call someone to start a voice chat would kill it if I tried to get others on board.


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