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SoystemD and why you should (not) use it Anonymous 06/15/2025 (Sun) 09:55:36 No. 23385 >>23400
Hello my gniggas. I've been into Linux for a while, and lots of people talk about SystemD, and especially why they don't like it. I've never been able to look up a cohesive answer as to how you come to this conclusion because I don't know enough about Linux. As I understand it any given unix-like distribution is composed of a bootloader, a kernel, an init system, the utilities, and the package manager. When it comes to SystemD, its approach is monolithic in nature and manages lots of things on its own. For others, all they do is run programs like an init system sounds like it's supposed to do. My question I suppose begins with where does the slack get picked up if not by SystemD? Daemons? Arch users end up trying Artix, but complain that some stuff didn't work, and that they're better off at that time using Arch. If you had this experience please post about why that happened. Assuming a world where everyone is on board with switching to a different init system, what has to change? Are too many programs dependent on SystemD for their services? Why is SystemD a poor choice compared to the competition, is it really so bad? Is SystemD a tool of Red Had embrace extend extinguish fuckery?
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>>23397 Void linux, more like aVoid. XBPS & XBPS-SRC are nice however I ended up having to use xdeb to convert debian packages into XBPS compatible packages to install certain stuff.
>>23385 (OP) >where does the slack get picked up if not by SystemD? Daemons? yeah, just other software that does the same job. not all of is is shit that needs to be present 24/7 though, or even present at all. >Arch users end up trying Artix, but complain that some stuff didn't work, and that they're better off at that time using Arch. I call bullshit. A couple things haven't worked for me, but they were: 1. Programs I didn't want to auto start trying to make themselves auto start without asking me. Obviously that not working is a feature and not a bug. 2. One of my drivers had a regression and one of the workarounds involved installing semi-obsolete software that was reliant on systemd. There actually had been an openrc version made, and it had been available on artix repos, but it was no longer maintained and was no longer available. I probably could've figured out how to do the conversion myself, but I found a different workaround instead that works better anyways I did install one of the community editions, so I suppose they probably installed the base iso and got mad when the initial setup differed. >Why is SystemD a poor choice compared to the competition, is it really so bad? Honestly it's not that bad, but there's some parts of it I fucking hate having to deal with, whereas I have never found myself getting mad at openrc or sysvinit. so it's not even that systemd is unfathomably evil, it's that you can't make me pick my 5th choice when the other 4 choices i prefer over it are still there and viable.


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