Well yeah if you do that shit IRL of course it's immoral. But talking about art? Anything goes really. Fictional characters anime, western or even stylised celebrities are all fair game imo. Non-con art allows us to fulfill desires and ideas that can be fun to explore. Stuff that's not even possible lRL. The line might start to get a little blurry when ai art becomes good enough to use photos of people you know to make some pretty convincing non-con scenes with them but atm? It's all good as long as that itch is scratched.

>>39485 >the morality and ethics of tickling BDSM is noncon and rapey by default. Twitterfags can complain about it, there's a reason they're all ugly overweight virgins

The moral implication is that it's hot as fuck

Don’tcha know? Non-con tickling reinforces rape culture. https://www.romper.com/p/yes-you-need-consent-to-tickle-heres-why-7939871 I love this wacky shit

>>39485 >>39506 Give us some examples of nonconsensual tickling then.

>>39510 Legitimate non con tickling media is hard to come by unless they’re like home videos of someone randomly getting tickled attacked in a playful manner. Genuine “tied up and tickled against their will” stuff is super rare and the few studios that have claimed to have the real thing like TicklingParadise were totally full of shit and everything was clearly staged. Most people in our community see that type specifically the same way rape is viewed in mainstream porn communities; excusable and appealing in a fictional vacuum but abhorrent in real life. As for art I mean yeah take your pick, 80% of everything ever made is non-con.

>>39512 What about this? https://hotmovs.com/videos/4661671/tickle-abuse-sexy-syrian-tickled-by-brooke/

>>39515 this is probably the most you'll usually get, a reluctant person being talked into doing it and regretting it. not exactly noncon.

>someone posts a link to the cringedrop and tumblrdrop thread on twitter >suddenly thread about noncon and morality. >over fictional scenarios

Here's a fun exercise for all moralfags. When you watch a tickling video, you have no idea if everything within was explicitly consented to. You also don't know if the tickler likes JK Rowling tweets.

>>39485 Non con is just torture. Your feelings on torture should be the same as in non-con. That is to say, perfectly moral in fiction, unacceptable in reality.

>>39562 I dunno…don’t want to meet the guy who jacks off to art of like water boarding or being burned with hot pokers and what not.

>>39561 Jk Rowling is based. I love seeing trannies seethe over her. Also I pre ordered hogwarts legacy. Fuck troons.

>>39567 Same.

Non-con fantasy is a-ok, because irl if you did it the victim would almost certainly shit themselves pretty early on and ruin the entire episode. Like how an octopus sprays ink to get away from predators. Of course if you're a ticklefag scatman that's just a whole new can of worms.

>>39485 >immoral and akin to rape. That's what makes it good. Now do us a favor and keep further twitter moralfag drivel away from /tkr/.

>>39485 Who ever exists outside my knowledge exists without my consent

>>39485 I'm well aware that most of my tickling fantasies are literally rape fantasies with tickling fetish (especially since they almost always include some kind of kidnapping or imprisonment scenario too), and it does not bother me a bit because it's all just sexual fantasies. I find it way more concerning if someone really feels that they need to actively limit their sexual fantasies and erotic fiction they consume out of fear that it might affect their thinking and real world actions, though that whole "portrayal = endorsement" mindset plagues modern fiction and fandoms a lot in general and it isn't limited pornography and fetish communities.

>>39567 Same. It's kinda cute how ticklefags acts like there's a monolith of thought on the matter. There's even some based troons in the tickle community who have no delusions about what they are and agree with Rowling.

It's the only way to enjoy it, imo. Restricting a fantasy scenario by morals is simply just boring. If I wanted to engage in consensual roleplay with someone, I could just do that irl. On the other hand, seeing a character kidnapped and tortured against their will is exciting and gives you something you couldn't otherwise come across. At least that's how I see it. I understand a lot of people enjoy tickling for the intimate roleplay element of it as well. >>39485 >A lot of artists on Twitter have been sounding off recently about it being immoral and akin to rape. Name one worth a damn. >>39512 >As for art I mean yeah take your pick, 80% of everything ever made is non-con. Eh, I'm pretty sure the majority of that is cnc and dub con. Most tickle bdsm art I've seen treats the lee as a participant rather than an outright victim. There's usually a noticeable shift in tone when the lee genuinely doesn't want it, and that tends to be rarer.

>>39598 >The judge smiled. Men are born for tickling. Nothing else. Every coomer knows that tickling is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the act itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Hold the dollar games require a wager to have meaning at all. Tickle interrogations involve the skill and wit of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the resilience of the lees and define them. But all coomers aspire to the condition of tickling for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all. >Suppose two ticklefags with nothing to wager save their laughter. Who has not heard such a tale? A tickle session. The whole universe for such a fag has labored clanking to this moment which will tell if he is to cum at that ler’s hands or that ler at his. What more certain validation of a tickler’s worth could there be? This enhancement of tickling games to their ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of cringe. The selection of one body part over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without autistic preference or knowledge of ticklishness either one. In such games as have for their stake the submission of the lee the body parts and methods are quite clear. This man too consumed by his fetish to truly excel at it is thereby tickled to exhaustion. This is the nature of tickling, whose stake is at once the laughter and the domination and the torture. Seen so, tickling is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. Pure tickling is the ultimate tickling because tickling is at last a forcing of the unity of dominant and submissive. Tickling is god. >Brown studied the judge. >You’re cringe Holden. Childish and cringe at last. >The judge dabbed.

I really don't get what's so bad about Non-Con. Fuck the moral implications it's not like I'm going around kidnapping random hot girls and tickle them senseless. So let me just imagine a hot character getting that happened to em. I don't get how this suddenly became a fucking problem.

Here's the other thing you need to consider; the way both are portrayed in mainstream media. When someone is influenced by "regular sex" in media its almost always consensual, romantic, passionate, etc. so it instills an ideal in your mind of "hey this is hot when they want it." and therefore the majority of people grow up wanting to find someone who they will enjoy fucking and who will also enjoy it themselves. Meanwhile tickling in mainstream media is almost ALWAYS non consensual. How many cartoons did we watch as kids that involved someone getting kidnapped and tickled against their wills? It shaped the fetish of so many of us in our more informative years and made the idea of it being forced on someone so appealing that the very idea of someone enjoying it was a totally foreign concept all together. And I mean yeah obviously the average person will love sex but hate being tickled so its pretty clear where the norms came from... ...ya know I had a point I was getting to but I've totally forgotten it....mmmyep... ....well thats my mama....

Romance in movies isn't as clear cut either. The Notebook's big celebrated romance starts because the guy puts himself in harm's way until the girl agrees to go on a date with him. Twilight raises huge questions about a girl's agency and yeah yeah still a better love story than Twilight but tons of people go in for that. Courtship is at its heart, deception and trickery. The goal is to outwit the partner and make them believe they want to start the ritual with you. Because our brains are telling us we need to procreate at any cost. Basically everything is fucked if you look at it hard enough. Like how we're having this conversation because we stand on the remains of civilizations that were conquered. Ticklefags are just trying to help people not wallow in the shittiness of existing. I think of us as some of God's great angels.

>>39667 > Ticklefags are just trying to help people not wallow in the shittiness of existing. I think of us as some of God's great angels. Wut.

>>39566 I know a guy who's into that. Outside the Internet he's pretty normal. As long as you don't realize them I see nothing wrong with "thought crimes".

non con tickle art is: - hot - already 90% of tickle art - legal and moral people saying that it isn't, are the kids of the parents who used to say "playing violent videogames will make you a violent spree killer irl!!!" now fuck off back to twitter, we don't want your stupid concern baiting faggot ass here

>>39680 Sauce?

>>39667 >courtship is, at its heart, deception and trickery >outwit the partner and make them believe they want to start the ritual with you >start the ritual >procreate at any cost That is, irony or elsewise, perhaps the most incel-addled string of words I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

>>39682 https://exhentai.org/g/1913066/e33bfec558/

I love it when these pussy ass snowflakes get upset over non con. A true tickler who was born with the fetish like myself can't get off to any other tickling than non con. A girl who likes being tickled is a major turn off for me.

>>39720 Sounds like a skill issue

Sounds like we got another snowflake

This is a weird one for me because legit “tickle rape” is my main kink. Most of my fantasies involve a woman being tickle tortured and savagely fucked against her will. Sometimes there are mindfuck games involved like she has to pick between getting fucked or tickled or the only way the tickling stops is she has to ask for sex, simply being simultaneously tickle tortured and fucked relentlessly until her mind breaks with plenty of screaming and crying, etc. Of course I’m a hundred pound pathetic little sack of shit so I could never do anything like this in real life; it’s just how I’m wired, can’t help it. I do occasionally feel a tinge of guilt and even shame over having fantasies like this but hey as long as it stays a fantasy and I never act on it, who the fuck cares?

>>39485 I mean the majority of Tickling pics are noncon at it's core but if where talking about real people or super graphic stuff it's fucked up.

>>39683 Nice. I like to defy expectations. Been married for 11 years, three kids in the nest.

>>39793 is that you chesh

>>39793 Not only do I not believe that for a second, I refuse to entertain the nagging mental image of a wife finding out her husband believes that deception is at the heart of a relationship, no matter how gut-bustingly funny that would be in a morbid way.

>>39834 You both are faggots, anon. I woke up everyday wanting to believe that people are not retarded, and most of days I went to bed proved wrong. Not EVERYONE and EVERYWHERE, and I'm glad if it's not the case for you or people around you, but not because your reality is different it means that's the norm. The world is not like we wish it would be, and most people just get things because they outwit the others around them

>>39838 Nigga if they're "outwitting" you then who's the retard?

>>39810 >implying only one person in the history of our community managed to find a wife and have kids

>>39834 Hold on let me post pics of my family so you'll believe me. Why on earth would I tell my wife those thoughts? I don't like the way the world works, but I'll work the world to enjoy it. >>39810 Yes. You got me. Crap.

>>39980 Chesh only has one kid so nice try. We’ve gone from anons accusing others of being certain people to anons pretending to be other people now?

>>39982 I was very serious that you caught me being Chesh. That was a serious response.

Who the hell is Chesh?

>>40576 chesh out deez nuts

>>39485 Depends how far you go with it. If it's a friendly (in a sadistic way), mischievous kind of tickle? Who cares, all a bit of fun. If you tie someone who is horribly ticklish to a bed and tickle the daylights out of them for hours? That should be considered genuine abuse. Also, lol @ taking anyone or anything seriously on Twitter.

>>40579 hot

>>40579 Yeah i dunno anon the abuse option just makes my dick hard I guess

>>39485 Who are you following that's been doing this, cause I follow all the ticklefag artists and haven't seen it yet.