AInigger spam should just be deleted, no one saves this shit and none of it is /co/ related

>>49378 Hide it, as long as it doesn't escape its own thread, they're fine.

>>49373 >It’s been 9 days >You only need to WAIT

>>49373 I’ve been adjusting well here. It feels like old school /co/.

>>49373 https://www.wired.com/story/4chan-is-dead-its-toxic-legacy-is-everywhere/ Who needs that site anymore.

>>49373 >How are you guys holding up? Not too bad, honestly. Being forced to go to other sites has really made me realize how bad 4chan had gotten.

It hurts boss

>>49399 Don't post direct links ffs https://archive.is/vMuiy

On the one hand, I want 4chan to die because of what it became. On the other hand, I’m afraid it dying may open the door for something worse.

>>49407 It should be up pretty soon, definitely today, the outage was fun while it lasted

>>49401 Yeah, this.

>>49401 just seeing people posting ponies anywhere without a bot spamming shitting up the board was, comfy.

>>49417 "Soon," he says "Definitely today," he says

>>49417 Why? Even if it does come back, everything is going to be the same. Boring, no one drawing shit, nothing good to look at, crazy people talking nonsense, hillbillies, etc.

>>49417 Soon soon or Valve/Blizzard Soon™?

https://files.catbox.moe/s7ou76.png Two more weeks Trust the plan

As much as I'm relieved that 4ch finally was put out of its misery, I'm saddened that yet another important piece of the old internet was lost. I suppose I can take solace that some of the (hopefully) best anons from there will inject new life into this place, but the whole thing has an air of melancholy from where I'm standing.

>>49373 Missing the old place, but I've found a place that could turn out to be really nice.

>>49500 They need to have up-to-date SOFTWARE, not just OS. And be very careful who you let into your staff, on account of the rumor I heard the hacker had full access for about a year.

>>49379 >>49386 >T-Two more weeks

>>49500 >>49522 Seeing as how it's hard to get their ducks in a row, I'd think it'll be at least a month before they get things sorted. Best get comfy, luv.

>>49500 If I were being paid $5k/month to do this: System: >the website, code repo, internal communications all on separate servers/virtual appliances, preferably inside containers >janny/mod/admin credentialing set through AD groups not SQL dbs >authentication framework (e.g. keycloak, shibboleth, authentik, CAS) a layer above the application code, referenced in web config files not application code >VPN required for SSH, git, AD management using that auth framework >TOTP required for both VPN and j/m/a secure web access (2FA through standard mobile authenticator app or USB FIDO2 security key) >PHP running under fcgi if it isn't already so hacking an application doesn't give you root >development server in use for testing updates, upgrades, new features; web access behind VPN, tested by jannies If I can set up a VPN on a Raspberry Pi they can do the same; a TOTP server is not rocket science either. The auth layer is the learning curve but the dividends are worth it. Application: >genuine refactor to responsive design HTML5 cutting bandwidth by a third >all data used by the application but not meant to be served to the user (salts, secrets, etc.) stored outside the webroot and gated using fine grained setfacl permissions rather than POSIX chmod/chown >absolute paths in source code referenced as envariables defined in the webserver (multiple reasons for this) >central library for processing uploads now obligated to run brief file signature checks (regardless of extension/MIME-type) after MD5 check against prohibited files, then the existing format-specific checks for embedded payloads (no more uploading EPSF as .pdf), strip metadata, only then generate thumbnails (using transparent PNG this time, it's 2025 and the backend will not shut down computing them instead of JPEG) >SQL queries are exclusively stored procedures (faster), only using binds for inserting values, even the ones that aren't user-supplied (minimize SQL injection and ensure values conform to expectations) This is all stuff I use in some of the most banal web applications imaginable, because my org is humorless about intrusions. In 2005 a popular imageboard could handle being written by a teenager refactoring futaba; 20 years later groups are actively looking for ways to shut down sites they don't like over the stupidest shit and what moot did for convenience back then made one flaw open the entire system to someone who only had to make a single educated guess. The only ugly parts of this list are setting up AD, auth and TOTP; VPN is pretty easy if you're already doing *nix admin work.

>>49511 I had access for 2 years but janitors didn't have any real knowledge of the system beyond the general public, and what APIs behind our interfaces could be determined were intentionally opaque. https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2023-36664 Adobe never thought to make the PDF spec include thumbnails, and as a result any application that shows PDF thumbnails has to internally parse and render at least the first page to generate them. Even though the PDF spec is public, this is enough of a headache that the all-purpose PostScript interpreter GhostScript is essentially the only FOSS library competent to handle the job. There are numerous abandoned proof-of-concept projects on Github that no sane developer would touch, sure, so if you want to preview PDFs in your application/site without licensing commercial software, this is basically your only choice. The hacker known as shartychan saw this 2023 CVE, guessed 4chan was lax about updating its dependencies, and crafted exactly the payload the CVE describes. And if it wasn't this CVE in particular, they probably went backwards until they found one that worked. At that point it's just penetration post-entry. Social engineering likely had nothing to do with it even if the sharty one had been a previous or current janny.

>>49559 >>49554 Mr.Hotpocket which boards did you jannie and why shouldn't everyone here demand you be permabanned from this board?

>>49584 If you read the thread on KiwiFarms the night all this shit was going down, you'd have seen there were a couple former jannies in there that got kicked out. My guess is this guy is one of them. Why harass a guy that got booted from their circlejerk?

>>49588 A miniscule about of revenge for the bullshit they put everyone through all these years.

>>49500 I wonder if any of the site changes will effect archive sites.

Apparently they haven't begun working on the site yet and with plans of a soft opening as "read only" around Sunday or Monday If at all. Also they're lynching poor 4/f/. Heed this warning, once they start purging boards it won't stop with just one. Everyone around during 8chan's second nuking can tell you when 8kun was being built they promised all the boards would be back as long as someone would claim them. Instead they threw multiple under the bus, especially the loli and political (excluding Q related) boards.

>>49597 I wonder which would be on the chopping block. I doubt they'd go after the high traffic, or even medium traffic boards. But then I have to wonder if there would really be any benefit of removing extremely slow and small boards.

>>49599 They'd get rid of /pol/ if they don't it would be pozzed beyond belief and that's saying a lot considering the amount of Mossad shills lurking about. /po/ or /o/ would probably be another contender.

>>49500 Fuck that site, man.

>>49597 Why did they throw /f/ under the bus?

>>49609 Security reasons most likely, im pretty sure you can upload flash files to 8moe but you'd need a separate player to watch them, only downloads for now. It would be neat if Codexx can implement Newgrounds' flashplayer so old flash animations/games can be played.

>>49611 We could have the old dress-up games back.

>>49599 probably /t/ and /r/ if I had to guess

>>49599 Basically any board like /hm/ or /cm/, the kind of boards no one talks about ever because no one remembers that we had those

>>49597 >Heed this warning, once they start purging boards it won't stop with just one. Everyone around during 8chan's second nuking can tell you when 8kun was being built they promised all the boards would be back as long as someone would claim them. Instead they threw multiple under the bus, especially the loli and political (excluding Q related) boards. So many good board got pruned. I was just talking with an anon on /v/ who mentioned /xen/ and /clang/ being purged. Hundreds of posts and pictures dating back from 2014, completely gone.

>>49599 I imagine they could remove communities that may have already moved somewhere else, basically as a sign of "we don't want you back." Frankly I'm surprised /mlp/ still exists given that the show has been over for years now. Seems like now would be a good excuse to put it out of its misery and tell the inhabitants to go to somewhere else besides 4chan.

>>49373 I'm actually enjoying it here more, for now. Unfortunately, most of the generals/boards I used haven't made it to any bunker I can find.

Quite frankly I hope it doesn't come back. This place really drove home how bad the 4chan got, I'd rather stay here.

>>49653 You're free to make them.

>>49655 I don't want the responsibility of policing a board, on the other hand I might bring back a few generals, but I have no idea how many anons from them made it here.

>>49638 I miss /tomoko/ and /just/. Old/bane/ too.

>>49500 F for /f/.

>>49588 >My guess is this guy is one of them. You couldn't pay me to make an account on KF much less post there. /co/ and /tv/ from 2011-3. moot kicked me out for arguing with him in the #janiteam IRC about putting a timer on OPs being able to delete their threads, something he did because faggots on /jp/ were intentionally deleting their own threads then blaming the janny for it; my position was we didn't have feelings to hurt and this was a problem affecting one board. In retrospect I should have complained on /j/ instead of IRC, a place where we were supposed to be asking questions in the moment instead of acting like a social club. KF is an interesting place to get some info about internet drama but I take everything with a grain of salt and never lurk there.

>>49554 > generate thumbnails (using transparent PNG this time, it's 2025 and the backend will not shut down computing them instead of JPEG) JPEG thumbs are significantly smaller which is a big deal when you get millions of hits.

>>49717 This wasn't the rationale, it was PNG ENCODE 2 SLOW and you know PNG can be lossy too, right

>>49711 What's a shartytroon doing here?

>>49642 April Fools this year was an excellent thesis on why GR15 still exists

>>49597 Makes sense that /f/ would have to go since flash has been a huge security risk now that it's no longer being supported. Kinda sad to see it go since /f/ was one of the boards I frequented the most when I first started using 4chan in 06.

>>49599 They'll trim the fat with boards like /an/, /trv/, /soc/, the ones that are more bloggish. At least I'd imagine. >>49604 /pol/, /int/, /r9k/, and /k/ I'd imagine would all be boards they'd love to get rid of, but as you've said /pol/ is thoroughly subverted at this point. Maybe they'll give the robots the axe, who knows? >>49642 /mlp/ is the last holdout of the bronies desperately clinging to a show that ended six years ago now. It's actually funny poking my head in there from time to time seeing people talking about the new show and being treated like heretics by the Friendship is Magic purists.

>>49597 They have wanted to cut /f/ for a long time but there was always a small group who would stop it. I wouldn’t read too much into it >>49599 Worst case I’d say would be some of those offshoot video game boards they made that were already covered but/vg/

>>49604 /pol/ is the most active board on the site and without it politics leak all over the site. It’s not going anywhere >>49642 /mlp/ exists so that GR15 can stay in effect. If they drop the board then they have to allow ponyshit sitewide again

>>49807 they should do that, that bandaid has been on for far too long and it's time to rip it off even if a rash will be under it but eventually it'll go back to normal

>>49725 Last time I took a break from 4chan it lasted 6 years (from 2009 to 2015) so I think I'm good. I like this place, it's slower but higher quality.

>>49745 >Imagine being this much of a normal fag in denial 2D Loli is the ultimate expression of otaku freedom and to tell society to go fuck itself.

>>49807 /pol/ wouldn't be as bad as it was if the mods didn't let anons take it that far

>>49807 >/mlp/ exists so that GR15 can stay in effect. If they drop the board then they have to allow ponyshit sitewide again Says who? Just expand GR15 to ban ponyshit entirely. Make it so it's not allowed on the site at all.

>>49872 >/pol/ would be better if we had more censorship Back to Shitter with you.

>>49921 What's the point of /pol/ in an anime website anyway? It would be better if the site went back to it's roots altogether with only the nerd culture boards and /b/ once more as Anime/Random and got rid of normalfag and schizonormalfag boards like /soc/, /pol/, /out/ and such.

>>49937 /out/ was good though. Better to get rid of shitholes like /k/.

>>49770 >/mlp/ is the last holdout of the bronies desperately clinging to a show that ended six years ago now. It's actually funny poking my head in there from time to time seeing people talking about the new show and being treated like heretics by the Friendship is Magic purists. /mlp/ is an odd case because their history involved taking elements from 4chan's /co/ and turning everything meant to kill them into a strength. Long story short, they reached a point where hiatuses didn't mattered because they were so deep into writing their own stories that they were satiated by other users's ideas. They became so self sufficient that even the absence of the rest of the fanbase and the show ending didn't mattered anymore. Case in point, they were hosting their own conventions and yearly events years after everyone stopped doing and even did some charity work along the way, saving an IRL horse.

/pol/, /k/ and similar boards are good because by their very existence they filter censorious faggots and worthless Xitter/Reddit/etc. rapefugees like >>49937 and >>49940.

>>49940 >>49965 If you want a normalfag filter, bring back /l/, that's still on topic with otaku culture.

>>49921 people who complain about censhorship are always 100% the ones crying they can't post their "kill all X people i don't like" fantasies or weird fetish porn.

4chan is back up now but it doesn't look like we can post on it yet

>>49972 Nobody cares troon, drink bleach and jump in front of a speeding truck.

>>50002 >point proven thanks for pĺaying

>>49996 Well that was quick, i guess there's no point in keeping the thread pinned.

>>50020 Honestly I prefer it here. I said this in another thread on 8chan. But I see the same low quality spam threads on 4chan already popping up and spamming the traffic of threads is way too high there. It's like social media, it's just meaningless fast content slop, that, and the reveal data reveal and insanity of the mods is really off putting. It feels more chill and comfy here.

>>50036 >that, and the reveal data reveal and insanity of the mods is really off putting. This point isn't emphasized enough. People are focusing too much on the source code leak and not enough on what motivated a lot of the garbage posts in the first place: Spite. Sharty specifically targeting staff wasn't a coincidence, they got support from years of people being fed up with staff's shit and now there's documented evidence that they are scummy people who are directly responsible for a lot of the problems with 4chan, including Sharty's very existence. Despite the slower traffic, I won't judge people for choosing to stay here. Not only is the communication between staff and users refreshing but there's also the deal with new boards being easily made, giving the community an alternative in case whoever's running the board decides to turn on them. It also gives very active fandoms a chance to promote their generals into a full blown boards rather than staff arbitrarily deciding who deserves it.

>>50059 >rather than staff arbitrarily deciding who deserves it. To this day I still believe creating /mlp/ was a stupid over-reaction from moot being a retard, so much I remember the /b/tards of the time being pissed off they got a board but there was no /sm/ for 60s Spider-Man posting.

>>50059 it doesn't matter how better this place is if no one is making OC content.

>>50067 >no one is making OC >people posting and talking about their webcomics in the webcomic thread rather than outside drama Man, I'm sorry but 14 years of wojak and pepe is NOT OC. It's trite recycling.

>>50067 Doesn't how much OC is made on 4/co/ if the board is filled with faggots and niggers. No matter how much you want to make it sound better it is unbearable to post there, fuck you.

>>50063 >To this day I still believe creating /mlp/ was a stupid over-reaction from moot being a retard It unintentionally benefited them, same with GR15. The former meant that they could all gather in one, easily accessible place, leading to them being hated by everyone (including bronies from outside of 4chan) and adopting their role as a heel because watching people get upset through zero effort was funny. The later forced them to stick to the board, meaning no threads on other boards to scatter the community, resulting in them becoming very united and capable of organizing all sorts of group efforts. Hell, making it a blue board forced them to learn how to write instead of dumping porn, exploiting a loophole while making them produce more OC in a week than /vp/ and /jp/ combined. That's also not going into their interactions with the brony fanbase, how they optimized gatekeeping and later developed good relations with some other parts of 4chan. /mlp/'s history has lots of cases of them taking shit meant to hurt them and turning it into a strength.

>>50071 >Doesn't how much OC is made on 4/co/ if the board is filled with faggots and niggers. Just like /tg/, the old /co/ might have made OC and projects, not anymore. Even their drawthread is a husk of what it used to be. You can thank Rednigger and the other tranny jannies for turning it into a subreddit in all but name

>>49921 Didn't say anything about censors dumbass, moreso if Mods filtered newfags who came for /pol/ and tried treating every other board like that places like /co/ wouldn't have gotten so bad

>>50082 >>50071 >>50067 Who says 8/co/ doesn't have OC? It's a slow period now but there's been plenty of shit going on. We had the Infinity-verse before it imploded, /co/'s Wacky Races, The "Show Your Shit/OC Threads", the annual Christmas card, all the holiday threads, The Writefag threads, the one Racoon cop thing, the weekly Friday and Saturday stream threads and a crap ton more.

>>50113 I'm talking about comblr. Nowadays is just 50% crying about /pol/, /a/, /v/, /tv/, etc, and 50% blatant shilling of current slop.

>>50071 >>50069 i appreciate the salt but i don't even post on 4chan, i came here because i expected it to be active after the hack. >>50113 i actually was for the streams, that was nice.

>3 day bans for complaining >3 day ban for mentioning 8chan >board wiping >no lolis allowed >same jannies as before >captcha trying to kill itself >new snitch reward because the devs are lazy >little to no site fixes done LOL got the caps from the /v/ meta thread

>>50113 I for one don't talk about this /co/, I mean the 4chan /co/

>>50137 Lol, thanks for posting this, so nothing really came of this at all, kek. Good riddience to 4chan, it's only there as a grease trap as far as I'm concerned. I've been banned before for complaining, notably about the bots and low quality threads or just talking about the state of /co/ in general.

>>50137 I'm never going back to 4chan.

>>50153 >notably about the bots and low quality threads or just talking about the state of /co/ in general Well, after the leaks is clear that is you were complaining about bots and low quality threads you were literally attacking the jannies' (or their friends') threads. That whole "be our little bitch for 4channel™ passes" is surreal

>>50137 Dude that's so cool, it's so cool how no one learned their lesson and in fact doubled down. They're absolutely gonna get Sharty'd again

The one thing that really sucks about 8ch is that we don't have a dedicated archive site.

>>50255 Reminder that 4chan has code for adding fake symbols to their captcha.

>>50255 niggas will really wait 15 minutes for this only to get their post "blocked due to abuse try again later" and say "ah yes, is good to he back"

>>50301 Its the same with using youtube or twitter, despite all the alternatives. Basic fear of missing out. The content and activity is on 4chan, youtube, and twitter. Even if most of it is garbage and useless.

The sharty is already finding new vulnerabilities lmfao. Ready for round 2 soon.

>>50372 >nothing is beyond our reah A girlfriend haha ha...

>>50379 because women hate soijajks, which is why they never post them on r9k, truly

>>50372 >Hiro basically duct taped a sinking boat. Amazing. Man, all the stupid stuff that could've been avoided had anybody been competent and actually done their jobs. Not letting wojak and pepe spam overtake the site, not letting /qa/ fester, actually mod /v/ rather than defend neogaf, not opening normalfag boards, holy shit.

>>50372 Kek, let the salt flow again.

Lol, how long till the next hack?

>>50452 If they manage to get admin access and lock Hiroshimoot and his legion of troons and redditors out I'll laugh myself to death.

>>50383 >>50452 It really just goes to show how badly and just how low 4chan has sunk and is continuing to sink. It's all the same threads being posted. And with the two interruptions from the Aprils Fools Board Deathmatch event and 4chan going down for 2 weeks. Boards should of reset and organic posting should of commenced. But instead, it's just the same astroturf thread spamming rather than any organic posting.

>4chan moderation team is defending a groomer. This implicates them. It somehow gets even worse. >>>/v/1269295

>>50515 I don't see evidence other than making pony porn. Cringe maybe but I don't see where's the evidence of tamers actually grabbing a child by the balls. Man, if drawing porn is all it takes to be called a groomer, pearl clutching zoomers would have a heart attack at the /b/ from early days. If there's something I'm missing that's more damning tho then alright I guess, but eh.

>>50372 >>50452 How can it be possible to be this fucking stupid?

>>50579 Enough influence and wealth, and anyone can infinitely fall upwards through life, no matter how incompetent you are.

>>50579 they do it for free

>>50515 this seems like classic cancel culture nonsense. I sleep

>>50609 Agreed, what's with farms, soyteens and /pol/ all being so pearl clutching over cartoons? It's like I'm witnessing the 80s and early 90s era of moral outrage all over again.

>>50515 This is just the Sharty continuing their campaign against Tamers because they're mad their random targeting didn't work the first time, so they're doubling down on the Groomer Allegations in hopes it'll finally pick up some steam All this is gonna do is increase Tamers support like last time

>>50515 >I can't BELIEVE this sick bastard groomed children by posting this profane gif of kids' characters on his personal account!!!!! Calling Tamers a groomer just because he made crass videos starring MLP characters, that some children *might* end up seeing, is like calling a gun store owner a murderer, 'cause one of his store's products was sold to a guy who used it to kill himself. The kind of shit that he makes has been on the internet since day aught; whether or not you think it's funny is your choice, but it was never intended for children. Except in very limited spots, kids ideally shouldn't be on the internet at all, and people like Tamers shouldn't be burnt at the stake because someone's parent's failed to do their job.

For those interested. >>50703

>>50686 For some reason the kiwi farms people and soyteens alike treat stuff like that as "grooming", I don't get how the internet became so pearl clutching on both sides.

>>50137 People deserve what they tolerate. If they're willing to put up with 15-minute timers to post, annoying captchas, bot spam, tranny jannies abusing what little power they have, uncaring moderation and a site built on spaghetti code, they don't deserve better.

Saw some anon in half/co/ saying that "Nothing grievous got exposed in the hack". I can't tell if ignorant, sycophant of the jannies or an actual janny baiting people to ban them under the excuse of rule 8.

>>50743 I've made some replies on half-chan about the leaks and there are people quick to question it, or just straight up gaslight the issue or info. Real sus shit.