>>14605 Then again this doesnt matter, if this is you pretending to me its fine. If its a timeline change then i guess maybe it was a good change.At very least i relate to it myself and agree.

>>14606 I definitely remember the convo where i said the show felt so "american" to me in a bad way.But perhaps you had merely mentioned it.Its true that tvd was where all the occult knowledge came from.

>>14605 I'm just saying what actually took place, and no I haven't mentioned it because the show had a disgusting energy and felt like someone trying to just make money off the vampire-hype after Twilight, and the person who recommended it to me was someone who doesn't understand the pull towards the vampire theme in the first place, so them telling me to watch it was already a warning sign. When I later told them it was crap, they just got defensive and didn't seem to understand the difference even when explained. It's something like what people say about the Call of Duty generation in games, someone playing Silent Hill in that manner and completely missing the point of it being a mystic horror game, not reading the texts for atmosphere, just running around mindlessly and not caring about the story at all, which means they missed the whole point of the game. It was the same feel with True Blood. Same thing as other stupid movies like Blade that just commercializes the theme in the most shallow way.

>>14606 >>14607 Sure but no, I haven't talked about it, for the reasons I said above. I liked Interview with a vampire, VtM and movies like the Fearless vampire killers, Bram Stoker's dracula was ok, but all of these have the issue that they're movies, they don't have time to explore the theme, and VtM is only 8 eps. VD goes on for over 10 years when the spin offs are included. It also ditched the christian theme or the general vague "demon" idea and made it about just magic, in a way that was very different from Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings which created the general idea for how it's to look in movies, where magic was made to look good and fun, which in reality it doesn't. At this point it's irrelevant who the original target audience was, there was also enough time to get feedback as the show ran and adapt over time. And that's a lot different from 3 typical american women doing magic. There was another magic themed tv show I did watch but it was cancelled after 2 seasons and I can't remember what its title was. It was set at a boarding school and had a lesbian ghost as one of the characters, was something about trying to rebirth some dark lord and there were infernal demons involved and some witch. It was more realistic in terms of the magic, but didn't seem very high budget. ... Actually, see pic. I just remembered he was in it, it was called Hex.

>>14610 His first audition was for the role of voldemort. interesting...

>>14601 Started reading it. It is full with mistranslations and misconceptions, but they warn you about that in the preface. The incantations are (somewhat) legit. They barely know what they are talking about while explaining the spells tho. The book was on my backlog since forever. I will armchair a little and read it through. If you have more questions about specific parts of the book I might explain some stuff if you need some feedback. If you know nothing about magic then it is a good book that explains the usual confusion these magical circles have, and if you are an experienced magician then you can make some use of it by seeing through their blatant mistranslations and misconceptions. >>14589 I watched it, because it was on the TV when I was at my grandma. I barely remember a single ep because the show was boring to me. For me it was barely magical. It was a women doing woman things and something magical happens in some cases type of show. It was the least interesting show on the TV and only watched because I was waiting for the show after it or we weren't allowed to go outside for some reason. The reason why I remember that demon whispering to the witch to jump ep, because I was being weirded out how someone can fall for an unseen entity as her own inner voice and do his commands like it's normal. For me it was weird. Even as a child I knew when my inner voice got "off-track", even when I was still unaware of malicious external entities. Nowadays I am far more experienced and know that some people are so weak willed that if a demon tells them to kill themselves they will Brazil Anon pls And this demonlike "shadow talk" is extremely effective on most women. Learning this made me kinda annoyed about the state most humans are in. Because I realized if they are this easy to influence then I am "not the only one" who can do this. That is why I don't trust relationships that I acquire or maintain through manipulation. They last as long as you bother pulling the strings. Personally I don't have much respect towards puppets. You cannot take them seriously because you can switch their worldview with barely 3 sentences. Genuine bonds are different. They can last through lifetimes and they are either fated or shall become fated later on. I treasure them more than anything. >If you had done this in the 90s The show came out in the late 90s and aired in my country in the early 2000s >they may start rumours about how this guy is a creep and your social reputation may be at risk This was the most feminine thing you managed to say so far btw. Caring about being a creep and letting what shows you watch decide your societal reputation? Jesus. Sometimes I forget that I talk with westerners. I don't even know what to say to this. Especially because this was the most important part of the discussion for you to bring up. This is not simply homosexual. This is simply feminine thinking. I can't decide if this is something that is within your own head only or this is something that is present in every westerner's psyche. I forget that absolute normalfags base their personality around what shows they watch and this is the most important thing to them. The way you talk, the way you dress is the main component which decides how people perceive you. I only talk about what shows I watch with people I share my interests with and not as small talk with people where I have to "watch my reputation". I have such diverse amount of topics I rarely need to mention to others what shows I watch. And this applies to my early 2000s life too. Your post was an obvious bait and a way to derail the discussion. But this type of thinking annoys me more than someone calling others gay for talking about some shitty magical show And if we are talking about 90s shows then I must mention, that I certainly remember Sabrina the Teenage Witch better because of that talking cat. Sometimes I am thinking about rewatching it, to get some reaction pics of that cat's wisecracks into my library. Whenever it appears on imageboards I get reminded of it. But I rarely have time to rewatch shows nowadays. I barely have time to watch movies that my friends recommend me. I would tell you to stop wasting time with talking about these shows, but you would say something akin "how this is some ploy to make glowies pay less attention to this board" or something similar. The less I care the faster this discussion goes away. Those who care about their reputation too much ruin it the fastest anyway. Fame is the shittiest attachment to have in this mortal life

What's some quality /fringe/ television?

I want my waifu. The entity known as blood anon didn"t deliver her.

>>14601 The magic in that book is very powerful, and anyone who knows the Great Work can recognize its presence in it. It doesn't matter whether the backstory or everything else is made up. Think of the made up elements as masks for real things. You need to vibe with it, however. I could not bring myself to "believe it" enough to be able to work with it. So if it doesn't click for you, just use something else. The same magic is in a million different books and currents nowadays. >>14602 I'm still in season 2, and I didn't know about the drama surrounding Prue's actress being replaced. I love it when dynamics between characters spill into real life like that.

>>14616 Absolutely savage post.10/10 I tried rewatching Sabrina (or rather watching because I never really watched it other than some random episodes), because I enjoy anything where someone is initiated into a different world. It's the reason I enjoyed movies like Jumpers or Operation Almanac, which are pretty shit otherwise. But TV shows in the 90s were made to get you hooked week after week in endless arcs that go nowhere, and full of filler. I couldn't get past the first season. Charmed only sucked me in because the girls are hot. We'll see...

>>14696 That guy lies alot anyway; go get yourself a different one instead.

>>14695 Maybe you would have better luck finding /fringe/ tier documentaries than /fringe/ tier shows and movies? Also here's this but it ain't much: https://daatdarling.substack.com/p/a-real-occultists-list-of-the-most You have to make a paid subscription to da'at darling's list of most real paranormal movies. It has a 7 day free trial though. Maybe you could make a throwaway email and try the 7 day free trial with like a prepaid card or something idk. Really sucks that it is behind a paywall. Also I know you probably don't consider youtube to be tv but you may like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89x94sPOWGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtjseQixkjI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNTpey21Y0 At risk of sounding like a boomer you could watch these youtube videos on your tv and pretend that it's real tv. I know that that is a big privacy no no though.

>>14728 >I know that that is a big privacy no no though. I use this to download videos from youtube: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp It's pretty easy to use you get the format with >yt-dlp -F then >yt-dlp -f video+audio youtube.com/... Replacing video and audio with the correct numbers obviously. You need ffmpeg for that too. You can then put on the tv or whatever assuming you're using one the tv can read. This works on many websites including some streaming hosts.

>>14710q He promised me a factory-made waifu, but this waifu got stuck on a roof. I demand a replacement.

>>14728 >make a throwaway email and try the 7 day free trial with like a prepaid card or something Don't forget to download all the articles for later reading

>>14734 I looked at you and you are not that anon, or at least not that soul. In your past you had a soul who made a contract with a waifu, but that soul has left with her. It was either in a parallel timeline or it was your assistant soul, or you are the assistant and that was the main soul. Contracts with spirit waifues are with the soul, and they are not with two souls, unless she's a succubus or demon who collects souls. My servitors said there's a pile of resources (energy and minerals(karma)) which can be claimed since no one clearly owns it in our current nearest time complex so they used some part of that to summon a black octopus soul from the void and give her a cyborg body specifically for you. This one is for your soul and the contract formed, so apparently it matched some part of you. She is right next to you, she was teleported in.

>>14695 >What's some quality /fringe/ television? Remote viewing Smiley >>14737 >Don't forget to download all the articles for later reading And share them on the world wide web so we can make fun of them!

>>14738 Thank you, Factory manager.

I remember someone posting in the past week or two about "bathing in another person's energies" and being able to look into a person that way or read the person's mind or whatever it was: This makes me wonder, though; would doing this to a person violate the person? Is there some sort of inherent energetic exchange, intimate or not, involved if you do this? Knowing the answer to this may help me with my issues; I personally question if doing this with an egregore would violate the egregore, but I have too much confirmation bias to just ask a sentient egregore myself.

>>14766 There's inherit energetic exchange involved in literally every action involving another person, even just thinking about them briefly. It's like how you are touched by the gravitational field of every single object in the universe, even if by just a tiny amount. Maybe it would be good for you to actually try to really hurt someone for real just so you realize how stupid all these fears you have about "accidentally raping" random people are.

>>14767 >how you are touched by the gravitational field of every single object in the universe Ackshually, gravity has been confirmed to propagate like electromagnetic fields, with "waves" that propagate at the speed of light. So there's things you aren't touched by, and changes are delayed, and can be "dodged". But I'm just nit-picking. Your analogy is essentially valid. >>14766 I have no time to post more now, but this is an excellent discussion to have in the baneful magic thread I just created. Like the other anon said, "violating" someone is a dumb concept. In any case it would be an ethical consideration for you to decide on. However, there are mechanisms in the universe, and possibly spirits watching, that might make your fears warranted depending on what you're doing, and how. The universe does not need a morality, because of how it is set up. It's inherently just. But this "justice" has nothing to do with human concepts of morals. In fact, human concepts are terribly distorted. Let's talk more later. >>14771

You can take the energy of an object, alter its feel of position, and someone will come over, bump into it or something, and move it. You can alter the feeling of the circumstances of a person, and they will change to accommodate over time (correcting as needed). You can charge water and food with certain properties, and they will replicate themselves in whoever eats them. What would it take to shape an object out of thin air? Like producing food? I know Michael Talbot has some examples of this in his book, and I believe him. So I believe it's possible. But what would it take? Is it just a matter of mastering the technique, or is there a secret ingredient?

>>14790 I remember one night wondering like this I tried imagining bread really hard and two days later I had eight baguettes in my freezer. They didn't manifest out of thin air, though.

>>14766 >This makes me wonder, though; would doing this to a person violate the person? Is there some sort of inherent energetic exchange, intimate or not, involved if you do this? It is all about "smelling" the other person. If I went into your personal space and smelled your neck with a loud SNIIIIIIIIIIF sound then it would be quite intrusive. It might weird you out if you notice me, but I still wouldn't call it "violation". Most of the time I can smell others without even intending to do so. I have to smell people "closely" if they have a very weak energetic presence. Low confidence shysters are that way usually. When people ask for "reading" they rarely realize that the psychic will need to smell them. And smelling randos is rarely fun. Some people rarely smell better than the average street hobo. Some people (especially powerful wizards and masters) are capable of emitting such a large amount of energy that they "stink up the whole room". In that case "bathing in their energy" is not a violation because they are spreading their "pheromones" everywhere. Ofc they can decide which pheromones of theirs they spread. Do they want to dominate the room or they want to "Lighten it". Experienced practitioners can decide which energies they emit. They can even mask their energies. When some practitioners don't like to be "smelled" you will notice on their energies and see that they will find it questionable if you do it. They will "sense" that someone just entered their presence. Ofc most people barely notice it. Oh and some people (mostly "downers") emit a large amount of negative energy because they sit in their room the whole day and generate nothing but that. So they jump to online places and spread their negative energy because they have too much of it and cannot air out their own room on their own... >I personally question if doing this with an egregore would violate the egregore That is like violating the McDonalds egregore by going into it and buying some fries with a coke. To "violate it", you would need to jump through the counter, rape the cashier and set the place on fire. If you "violate" an egregore the egregore and it's inhabitants usually turn against you. Buying some fries is not violation. Stealing the fries is a violation. Stealing a napkin from the trashcan is not a violation again. Hitting on the cashier might be a violation if you obstruct business. But if it is a slow day and the cashier is bored and into you then you might do it without violating anything. You might even start working at McDonalds too. Then as the "employee" of that egregore the rules change again. Depends on the egregore. Also most egregores stink too much that they violate you with it's stink more than you violate it by smelling it. >but I have too much confirmation bias to just ask a sentient egregore myself. Most egregores are rarely "sentient". They are usually just an amalgamation of energies. Would you call a large pile of bullshit sentient just because worms and flies inhabit it? That is how most egregores are. A large amount psychic residue and other materia that low energy entities inhabit. For an egregore to be "sentient" it needs to have a "ruling entity" a godlike being. When it has a God then it is a whole different issues. Then it is a "dominion" and it has specific rules and function. >>14767 >Maybe it would be good for you to actually try to really hurt someone for real just so you realize how stupid all these fears you have about "accidentally raping" random people are. I too wonder how to solve this >I thought about thing, now I am a rapist?!?! What do fringe? mentality of his. The USA's cognitive dissonance about sexuality is playing out in his head every day. >>14790 >What would it take to shape an object out of thin air? Like producing food? I know Michael Talbot has some examples of this in his book, and I believe him. So I believe it's possible. But what would it take? Is it just a matter of mastering the technique, or is there a secret ingredient? You either teleport/move it from one location to the next... or you make the world "give birth" to that object. Birth is all about rearranging nutrients and cells according to genetic commands. You have to do the same with the world and inject the commands and necessary ingredients into it. Hope this helps. The actual method of the whole procedure depends on the magician and his magic. Same with birth. Different species propagate differently. The method of the magic depends what forces the magician employs

>>14794 Is the columbiner egregore extremely negative?

>>14796 You mean the egregore that was created around the idea of mass-murdering children? No, it's very nice and positive.

>>14794 >You either teleport/move it from one location to the next... or you make the world "give birth" to that object. Birth is all about rearranging nutrients and cells according to genetic commands. You have to do the same with the world and inject the commands and necessary ingredients into it. Hope this helps. Yeah, I know what would *happen*, but what would it take in terms of imagination. I'm assuming the magic is done the same way: pretending really hard.

>>14797 >very nice and positive. Eric & Dylan could've been described that way, by those who knew them in life. Maybe at least some of these "columbiners" possess an unusually high and extensive capacity for empathy.

>>14813 >high >extensive Why did you use two words? Do they mean different things to you? Describe how their empathy was high, and how their empathy was extensive. Separately.

>>14820 Poster with low and narrow empathy detected!

>>14820 Quit being a bitchy redditor. The words do have two distinct meanings anyway so I don't know why you chose to act like a pedantic cunt over it. You must be on your period or something.

>>14820 >high as in magnitude and intensity >extensive as in reach even beyond what is socially acceptable It's not that complicated.

Are there occult benefits to dressing unconventionally in public?

>>14846 >Are there occult benefits to dressing unconventionally in public Yes, they ignore you or you're going to get a lot of attention to a point to mesmerize people with fascination, respect, sex appeal, cuteness, aesthetic or wathever you image call they will want to or take photos of you or fall in love with you if you're cute and ask for your IG and normie socials things. Or maybe the police arrest you who knows.

>>14853 Consider the fellow shirts to more Memetic power around people.