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General Thread #68 - Kimonos and Oil-Paper Umbrellas Edition Jumper 10/13/2025 (Mon) 02:39:24 No. 139422
A thread for general jumpchain discussion and chatting. Please make sure to spoiler explicit images and keep hornyposting to a minimum. >Old thread: >>137378 >Horny Thread: >>728 >Thread Archive: >>1331
>>139422 That was fast.
Too fast.
>>139359 Not at all directly. They are functionally two different magic systems, from two very different textures. It’s possible for different magecraft systems to come together to make something greater than the sum of their parts; that was the reason why the God Breaker Alliance in LB5 pooling their resources could build something capable of summoning Romulus-Quirinus as a nerf to LB Zeus. But based on what we’ve seen they have don’t really have a natural synergy with each other >>139380 That and it is apparently much harder to directly hurt Servants with high Magic Resistance using HSDW, since you can just slap Runes on yourself and beat the shit out of someone. Or change your own Saint Graph into that of a summer slut, potentially changing your entire class and skillset to be more effective at fighting someone limited to their basic Holy Grail War loadout. >>139393 As the other anon said, in the current canon he genuinely can’t. Hell even in AoS, where the local gods have had much more success at fending off the Chaos Gods than the Emperor, the closest they come to Exalted are the Soulbound (who explicitly come with flaws impoosed by their gods’ paranoia or base natures, such as Sigmar being so damn clumsy he accidentally chips away at his), the Stormcast (again, who explicitly suffer ego death because that great lummox Sigmar broke them with his dumb unga bunga storm reforging) and the Chosen: Those more directly empowered by a god such as the Mortarchs, the Six Smiths and…Archaon. I think that last one says it all, really. >>139404 Even back then, probably the closest he could get was the Custodes and Primarchs. You have to understand, if the Emperor could mass produce something with greater long term potential to defend humanity than Space Marines he absolutely would have. >>139416 Nope, but sounds kind of familiar. May have skimmed over it on one of my novel recs- >Will Wight >The Cradle guy Oh.
>>139423 >>139424 I had the thread prepared for ten minutes. Also I tabbed out to hit post immediately after hitting post to take the last post of the last thread ... I wouldn't have gotten the last post, but it decided to give me a connection error and two more posts popped up before I tried again
>>139426 Based.
>>139425 It's still really funny to me how the old fantasy version of warhammer is so much more well received that even their version of Abbadon is better.
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>>139410 >To use Fate terms, the Demon Castle is basically Dracula's Reality Marble NASU SAMA STOP I'M GOING INSAINE!!!
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>>139415 I would also be ashamed if I wrote like this.
>>139428 You can say a lot of things about Archaon, but at the very least he actually fucking succeeded at destroying the Old World with less than 12 tries.
>>139430 >Maybe she can't breathe out her mouth because it's filled with my penis. Excellent deductive reasoning, Sherlock.
>>139394 I keep seeing clips of this series, is it any good?
>>139431 He was also a relatively (as much as a Warhammer character can be) chill guy until he was TRAPPED and BETRAYED then hero boxed by his Father's plan to possess him.
>>139434 If Warhammer had a hyperbolic time chamber he'd probably have solved the problem of chaos and started a harem.
>>139433 I'd say its enjoyable and cool to watch at least. It does decline in quality in later season, but even those have some interesting character arcs and greats fights at least.
>>139432 Anon, this is the same guy "people die when they are killed" comes from
>>139438 Was this just extremely poor translation, or?
>>139439 nta, but no. its just Shirou reflecting on how he survived getting killed and how that is not how its supposed to be.
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What would happen if Archaon was born an anime girl?
>>139441 Nothing would meaningfully change. Archaon in canon is exactly as clumsy and burdened with performance issues as Archaon would be if he was born an anime girl.
>>139441 She'd be a Felix victim.
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I said Tomoko is cute
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If I imported a more traditional sword into the Ea option in Oasis would it look like Noah's sword?
>>139445 Probably? We barely know anything about Ea rules.
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Time to think of a topic to continue ignoring Psycho with...oh! What topic would YOU like to talk about?
>>139446 We know it's strong, tears apart reality with dimensional wind, is supposedly meant more for creating worlds than for destruction, and that Gil views Noah's sword as an inferior duplicate akin to how most other NPs have superior versions in his vault. Which yeah is still pretty fucking vague.
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>>139447 FemGil.
>>139447 Talk about me
>>139447 Keyblades and how they're the best weapon
Which Fate jump would let me pick up a fem!Enkidu to go with my Galgamesh?
>>139452 any jump where you can get a fate servant. All it takes to get a female enkidu is to ask them to be female.
>>139453 I think most Fate jumps cap out the power of the servant you can get well below the point of 'just slightly weaker than Gilgamesh when he's actually trying'.
>>139451 Every character in BBS is trash
>>139455 Aqua is cute tho
>>139454 not really? You can make them with Val's supplement if you got the points to spare. And the high tier servant levels available in jumps like Apocrypha and Strange Fake should work for them too.
>>139457 >You can make them with Val's supplement if you got the points to spare. I'm not sure that's realistic. >And the high tier servant levels available in jumps like Apocrypha and Strange Fake should work for them too. That however is, and taking a Lancer in Apocrypha could get rid of the Karna problem too.
>>139452 …Fate/Legends: Oasis of Fantasy? You can afford Body of the World (and the other “of the World” series of perks if you don’t want a lobotomised, uneducated Enkidu I suppose) pretty easily for an OC companion’s starting budget.
Does the HunterXHunter jump doc handle dual affinities?
>>139447 Any particular godir anyone would like seen played in Age of Wonders 4? I'm planning a sexy vampire lady focused on necromancy when the next DLC drops, and I've just started the ascension of an animals-focused nature dragon to take up space in my upload queue. As for how this is jumpchain relevant, I'm intending to make a jump for the game, and figure that some random suggestions will help to broaden my experience with the game...in addition to helping fill my upload queue with something that performing much better than my Cyberpunk series.
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>>139447 What's an alt form or power you like using to mess with certain settings? I like being Godzilla in fantasy settings, because everyone is trying to figure out if I'm some kind of crazy dragon or demon or something while I just rampage and fight other monsters.
>>139460 Dual affinities aren't really a mechanical advantage, so it's not really something that needs to be addressed. Personally I just decided my jumper has an affinity between enhancing and transmutation like Killiua
Dimensional Stalker Supplement is going slower then I though, other projects crept up on me and I my creative juices are still refilling quite slowly. That feeling when you realize a cooler way of doing your current chain, but your jumps don't work at all for the theme you are going for. ...At least Kerbal Space Program is a pretty cool first jump to replace what I had. Regardless, need to sleep, but I just felt like posting at least once this weekend. >>139462 While I always try to keep in my human shape, I do like to bring sudden robotic hordes into settings that suddenly deal with all the threats to confuse people, especially because I really like making robots look scary as fuck.
Fucking Astolfo in the ass is completely straight. He, quite literally, does not count as a man. That is all.
>>139465 Nigga he's gonna fuck your ass
>>139463 It does though, Machi for example being a Trasmuter-Enhancer applies this into her hatsu where she transmutes her aura into strings and then uses enhancement to make them stronger or heal. Someone like Ikalgo being 98% Enhancer and 2% Emitter is probably only an advantage in very specific scenarios like an attrition warfare scenario where using that much less aura would tip the scales in his balance overtime.
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>>139468 >Nah, I'd top
>>139467 You're still between affinities, you don't have both. Like your position on the chart changes and it affects your skill with other types. Like someone between enhancing and transmutation is not gonna have be able to go into conjuration and a pure transmutation user would have.
>>139469 Correct. They don't call me xXx_BussyDestroyer6969_xXx for nothing.
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>>139466 Just summon his boyfriend to help you break him.
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>>139447 I’m curious what everyone did in nWoD. Especially how you all interacted with the more obscure sub-splats. Like the Maar-Kherit, particularly fucked up mummies who used to be the healer guild until the Shan’iatu slaughtered them and the Su-Menent resurrected them. Badly. Now they’re in constant agony and overflowing with polluted Sekhem gone as blights and sores. They don’t even have a proper compact with the Judges. Or the Emancipated: The new faction of Beasts who metaphysically cast the Dark Mother and redefine their mythos around the Bright Dream (the happy hopeful side of the Primordial Dream). Yes, really. Yes, they are getting kind of desperate to let you play Beast but not as an abuser metaphor without outright making Heroes fully redeemable. Also which Aeons are at the top of your kill list in Honkai Star Rail? >>139451 Even after the second battle with Elodie was functionally retconned out of my planned chain because OC3 broke Elodie, she did kill me once with my own. So yeah, they’re pretty strong. >>139462 I don’t “mess” with settings so much as develop eccentric and roundabout ways to redesign the structure of the multiverse in a way that sometimes resembles a particularly daft creepypasta, but I do like to use Deepness, Flore and Wanderer from Nobilis to functionally copypaste the existences of people or places I like into other settings. This is less cloning or conventional isekai and more like extracting the “source code” of someone and retroactively seeding the other setting with them. Mostly this means when I start a cult or corporation or somesuch, there’s a LOT more people than you’d think seemingly showing up overnight with only a vague recollection of where they came from.
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>>139447 Generic Isekai worldbuilding/worldbuilding in general or for me specifically: “How can I find a fitting concept for a 2nd universe to put on a ‘in progress dimensional collision’ with the 1st who revolves around a civilization that took the concept behind the Large Hadron Collider & tried to pull a Xenoblade Klaus moment in an attempt to make their reality more of a paradise?” >>139462 Having a Worm Zero alt-form from Duel Terminal part 1 with the “Brightest Darkness and Darkest Light”perk (Blinding villainous light version) from Duel Monsters - The Heroes is honestly one of the funniest ways of messing with settings where light as a power is seen as a good thing or a good omen. >City sized slime ball warps over a city >Flashbangs everyone with blinding white light as you exert your will into various people to turn them into puppets or items as a vector that would lead to the same result with enough time & effort >Warps away >Some time later, people carry out your actions like obedient fanatics I like to use this in various superhero settings & lead villains &/or heroes on a wild goose chase dealing with random citizens mucking up their plans
>>139474 >I’m curious what everyone did in nWoD. I like going into NWoD as a Purified or Skinthief, which generally means being mostly removed from the conflicts various supernatural factions have. The closest thing I had to a plotline as a Purified was getting into a conflict with Scavenger Wolf, a spirit known for skinning humans to wear their flesh and take their form, after the asshole murdered my jumper's stepfather and started up his tricks. Unfortunately Scavenger Wolf's been doing his bullshit since before Pangaea was broken, and it took a full decade and a lot of politicking in the spirit world to finally put him down. My Skinthief jumper meanwhile had a feud with the Coalblack family, after one of them decided that trying to pluck the fur off of a sleeping maine coon was a good idea. The feud mostly consisted of me in my Maine Coon form tormenting the Coalblacks when they went out in their Crow forms, and the Coalblacks returning the favour. I don't think we ever actually discovered the others were Skinthieves, only assuming the other were particularly intelligent animals.
>>139476 >Scavenger Wolf Yeah, that makes sense. I was just about to say being Purified would logically likely put you in the crossfire of the endless spirit turf war bullshit and…yeah, Scavenger Wolf is a massive dick. >I don’t think we ever actually discovered the others were Skinthieves Kek
>>139477 >Kek The idea of just having my Skinthief jumper spend a decade fucking with the Coalblacks came to me the instant I saw the quote at the start of their section. Picking a fight with Scavenger Wolf was probably a bad idea, but that dude's such a massive dick that I couldn't not kill him, and I figured a Purified would be able to survive the consequences the best. The irony of a human who refuses to accept that they've become more akin to a spirit due to their actions getting into a conflict with a spirit that refuses to realize they've become akin to a human due to their actions also appeals to me
do japanese people just really like reversi or do isekai protags just always introduce it because it is so simple
>>139439 No, it's a legit phrase you can say in Japanese. Translating it makes it sound completely retarded.
>>139479 JAPANESE GOOD COLONIZING GOOD
>>139479 >Reversi I don't think I've ever seen Reversi in a manga. Like, the last time I ever saw it anywhere was playing Runeversi in the Burthrope Games Room back in 2006
>>139482 It was in the one boat isekai, but i haven't really seen it anywhere else, either.
>>139345 Morning, WoL.
>>139447 How to meaningfully cross Ocean Game, Enigma of Fear, and WoD in such a way as to make the Garou EXTREMELY fucking miserable. Because fuck the Garou.
>>139485 The Clown Game is now also actively manifesting the Wyld into the Gauntlet (meaning werewolves have to deal with it as part of their job description), and also solving one requires dealing with a “thing must exist” scenario.

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>>139474 >Also which Aeons are at the top of your kill list in Honkai Star Rail? The universe will literally be destroyed if Mythus is allowed to continue existing, so it.
Gotta a few questions: Has any jumpmaker mentioned wanting to do a Stellar Blade jump, or having a WIP? Also, if you've played the game, what perks would you like to see? Yes, there'll be a perk to have a phat ass. Mostly I'm looking for a fourth 600CP, comparable to "Being as powerful as Eve", "having a Naytiba fusion form like Raven and Tachy", and "being what Adam is".
>>139486 >Clown Game You and I both know the Garou would be Monkey Game only, let's not kid ourselves.
>>139480 If you ever become bilingual in any language you quickly realize that's the case for pretty much everything. The layman tends to think of languages as the same thing but with different words and maybe some grammatical quirks. But as you study and learn another language you will quickly realize unrelated languages like English and Japanese are completely different on a fundamental level and can't easily be transliterated because the actual word-for-word structure and sentence meaning makes no sense if you try to do that.
>>139488 At this point the most likely person to make a jump for it is probably a reddit jumpmaker. They hop on that kind of stuff real fast.
>>139488 I find it funny how shamelessly the game just copied both Nier games and added some Nikke in there.
>>139482 Reversi is literally the basis of the power of the main antagonist of One Piece
>>139490 Even for related languages the cultural aspect becomes too intricate to truly ignore. English is bad because of how many exceptions there are to almost every rule, or at least that's the general conception that people have, but even for non-English languages it doesn't take a new learner very long to realize that what they're taught will typically be wrong under some circumstance. Like how textbook Japanese has stark differences from workplace Japanese, which is also different from casual Japanese and texting Japanese.
>>139488 >Has Nope >perks Everything I know about that game boils down to “it’s Nier Automata but the gals are taller, legier and go off the deep end a little quicker” which alienates me from giving it a shot myself. It’s irrational but I just get a reflexive anti-jumpmaking urge from feeling like too much old ground is retrodden. >600 CP Being another networked AI like Mother Sphere? Possibly with a smaller sphere (no pun intended) of influence for balance’s sake >>139492 It honestly grinds my gears how much praise it gets for being that alone even though objectively, OBJECTIVELY, I know I can’t blame people for applauding “Nier but with a new coat of paint” in the current state of the vidya industry. Like you said the resemblance is so DAMN FUCKING uncanny that I just start autistically shrieking internally that yes, yes I know how this plot goes, it was revealed to me in a dream and everything.
>>139479 The fuck is reversi?
>>139494 Nta but I don’t like how the Japanese character for “celestial body” is equally applicable for planets, stars and moons specifically because it confused the hell out of several Fate jumpmakers and myself way back in the day. Or at least, localisers seem unable to gauge the difference. At least in Chinese we say 行星 (xíngxīng) or 星球 (xīngqiú) to differentiate Uranus from the fucking sun.
>>139496 Board game
>>139479 Boss Baby moment
>>139492 >how shamelessly the game just Nier games but the waifu on the cover isn't clickbait FTFY
>>139488 Knowledge and skill to make all the tech that shows up? Maybe something for Mother Sphere's gaslighting ability or perhaps being a super AI like her? >>139265 Aren't the Adeptus Arbites literally just direct references to Judge Dredd? At best he'd probably just be seen as a rogue arbites, and certainly wouldn't survive long enough to effect any real change on any sort of Hive world. I'd be shocked if he even managed to make it to the upper plates before getting ganked by someone unless you're assuming he has some sort of plot armor backing him up. >>139338 Yeah, one of her ancestors was desperate for pussy so he made a deal with a succubus to get laid in exchange for cursing one of his descendants to never get laid. He immediately regretted the action after achieving post-nut clarity but there was nothing to be done about it because the contract had already been fulfilled. It basically works by mentally influencing anyone that might want to have sex with her into deciding not to have sex with her for often arbitrary reasons. In theory if you were immune to mental influence effects you could just have sex with her anyway, or if you were such a degenerate pervert that you would (and perhaps had) had sex with anything/everything else in the world you could also bypass it that way. Iirc it's canon that there is in fact a knight out there that could bypass her curse but he's never met her. >>139382 >Though I agree that one town needs to go, that priest was begging for a murderin. Didn't that guy sort of redeem himself before he died? >>139410 >there's none of these clockwork shenanigans or the idea that it's a mechanical construct at all. bro the clocktower filled with massive moving gears and pistons and such has been consistently showing up in castlevania for ages now.
>>139497 It's just part of the learning process. While both Chinese and Japanese are fairly context dependent, Japanese is noticeably worse in that regard. With some writers you just can't guess at the context based off of a kanji skim read. While Chinese does help because of the kanji base, the more you learn the more you'll realize that it can be a double edged sword.
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>>139488 >Mostly I'm looking for a fourth 600CP, comparable to "Being as powerful as Eve" What about being a Nikke (Judgement Cut optional)?
>>139122 I am here. Due to my Grandfather arriving a few days ago and needing my assistance throughout the night due to medical concerns, I've flipped my day-night schedule so I'm up all night for when he needs me. Paradoxically, this means MORE time to work on the Jump as I have plenty of free time.
>>139497 Fate is one of the worst offenders because they love to use multiple interpretations. Like how Lostbelt 6 title is meant to be interpreted as both 'The moment a planet/star is born'.
>>139474 >Also which Aeons are at the top of your kill list in Honkai Star Rail? Nanook. Bro is literally unironically asking for it. IX and Terminus can probably be soloed by Tachibana Hibiki from what I hear of HI3rd. >>139487 >The universe will literally be destroyed if Mythus is allowed to continue existing, so it. Wasn't that Nous? Mythus jobbed to Polka anyway.
I'm pissed they fucked over OPM by giving them trash animation studios two times in a row after the first one was incredible. Literally all success of an anime nowadays is just the studio behind it. Nobody on Earth would care about garbage like Demon Slayer if the animation wasn't so sick, but it is sick so it prints a gazillion dollars
>>139374 Another one's waitin in Hell. Well, unless Death decides to bring her back. Both Makima/Control and Death seem to be able to resurrect old versions of Devils that have died, in Makima's case if she 'owns' them, and Death can just do it because she's Death.
>>139497 FFXIV leans into it in the localization by having the planet always be called a star in english and working their dialogue around it.
>>139482 It shows up in a few isekai, like Striving for the Luxury Liner, Chronicles of an Aristocrat, and Slow Life in the Countryside. >>139496 Othello. >>139499 what
>>139506 I really doubt anyone from HI3rd is on par with any Aeon. Even Phainon "passively evaporate nearly a dozen galaxies in a rage" Khaslana only managed to score a single scratch on Nanook's cheek. Which it immediately healed from. >Wasn't that Nous? No, Nous isn't doing anything to harm the universe - that's just its creator going full schizo, drinking the Nanook kool-aid, and is now trying to birth Irontomb to ostensibly murder Nous.
>>139488 Doesn't an actual Nikke show up at one point? Maybe something based on that? Or perhaps a perk that allows for x-over events to happen in whatever jump you're in from properties you may be familiar with? Like that one drawback from God Slaying Blade Works that causes x-over events with other settings and causes you to get mixed up in dangerous shenanigans, except presumably the perk version wouldn't have that part. Also maybe a general perk for a general appearance upgrade? Like taking it would make it so going forward people just look way better, like how in Stellar Blade just about everyone is an absolute knock-out?
>>139488 Good luck with the jump if you commit to it, friend.
>>139507 Some companies are allergic to money, it comes in the form of them believing they can skimp on the production and still make the same amount they otherwise would. Sadly this only works for some companies who aren't allergic to money, and only for very specific works like Invincible. This is something you just have to understand, if the people who hold onto an IP are allergic to money they'll keep doing stupid shit under the logic of maximizing profit while actually shrinking it.
I checked the faq and it seems like they make your computer go through a different process to get your bypass depending on its specs and now I'm sitting here thinking that this might be why it bars the doors and won't let me in sometimes on computer but then lets me in on phone. It specifically says this isn't for mining in the faq but now I'm sus.
>>139505 >both >That bullshit in TsukiRe in which Arc turns out to have a hologram of the Big Bang inside her soul, with no further elaboration REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>139513 In V-Tamer 01 what would Overwrite and Ulforce on a human look like? I ended up going with an Arkadimon egg build but I was curious.
>>139514 Yeah, the fundamental genre difference between western capeshit and Shonen anime can't be understated. Anime is all about action and bouncing fat titties, being in large part spectacle. Capeshit is just soap opera drama for nerds and the action only needs to be good if you wanna capture some of the animu weeb fanbase
>>139495 >>139501 Being like Mother Sphere...Yeah I can try to work with that. I think I would split the tech perk between an enginerring perk based on Lily, and a second perk based on knowing the old science, either on the Mother Sphere or the Xion trees >>139503 >>139512 >Nikke Nah, I don't know enough anything about Nikke,and I don't like adding crossover stuff to jumps. >>139513 Thanks.
>>139517 They wouldn't look like anything, because Overwrite doesn't have an aesthetic effect, and the Blue Digizoid effect requires being a Mega level Digimon. If you mean what they do, then they do what the perks say they do - drawing great power from emotions, as well as a strong regenerative effect.
>>139518 *Overstated. Why are those two so easy to get mixed up?
>>139502 >While Chinese does help because of the kanji base, the more you learn the more you'll realize that it can be a double edged sword Oh yeah, that’s totally fair. The really confounding part is when PUNS can form actual cultural taboos/conventions/beliefs that really can’t be explained by anything other than “it’s just a bad vibe, man” and “this is the way we’ve always done it”. And that is why my insane country sometimes omits labelling a 4th floor in high rise buildings because the character for “four” in Chinese sounds like the character for “death” and therefore it’s bad luck or something. Like puns can summon the grim fucking reaper in Final Destination, which has a TANGIBLE EFFECT on how real estate is developed. >>139506 >Nanook Based, same. >IX That one’s a low priority for me for now because THEIR own damn Emanator wants THEM ded, and also it’s just kind of sitting there. It does have to go eventually, though. >Terminus That guy’s so absent from the setting I’m starting to wonder if the Trailblazer is Terminus or something. >>139507 Same. I fucking hate corporatism inflicting “less is more” bean counter logic on proven successes. >>139509 Strangely admirable, I suppose. >>139511 >Nous isn’t doing anything to harm the universe Well if we take Zandar at face value (big ask, I know) then it is BUT. The Bad Thing it does is such an abstract and esoteric thing that the majority of people unironically aren’t intelligent enough to be affected by it, and the main detriment is to people who dig too deep into eldritch lore getting suddenly murderhobo’d by an autistic faceless girl who gets off on being Nous’ backup CPU. >>139515 >It specifically says Never believe anything not backed up by concrete legal documentation. Anyone can write anything on the internet. I can declare I’m the second coming of Jenova and all my friends are reincarnated Final Fantasy characters, that doesn’t make my weird sex cult justified. >>139487 The best thing you can say about Mythus is that THEY aren’t part of Destruction’s little conspiracy. The worst thing you can say about Mythus is that not only do THEY buy into the schizo “HOW DARE YOU RESTRICT THE SUM TOTAL OF ALL POSSIBILITIES IN THE FUTURE??” accusations levelled at Nous but THEIR means of subverting them isn’t accomplishing much of value at all. Stupid-ass autistic higher dimensional entity. >>139489 Also FORCE them to go Monkey by having Gaia send them visions about the clown being the bigger problem and having the monkey be a Wyrm agent.
>>139522 What's really shitty about it too is that OPM's art is done by Murata, and while Murata probably completely fucked the story his art is really good so the animation should be really good to match the art.
>>139523 Eyeshield and that Ruroni Kenshin thing taught me that the motherfucker should only be allowed to draw and nothing else.
>>139523 Agreed. Can’t even imagine how out of touch whoever is in charge has to be to look at how S1 did and decide tanking the animation quality to save a few bucks was worth it.
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Anyone know of some insect swarm controlling abilities? I want what worm's protag can do but that place is a crock of shit.
Do not be alarmed. This is a test.
>>139526 Nightmare Before Christmas
>>139519 Will there be an option to get that crazy orbit ring system around the Earth for your own use? That thing is wild and I'm kind of baffled where they got all the material from.
>>139526 Metal Gear Solid has some. For what Taylor can do though, you probably want to go green-black in one of the MtG jumps, Iconics seems about right.
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>>139527 PANIC
>>139519 >Nah, I don't know enough anything about Nikke,and I don't like adding crossover stuff to jumps It's by the same devs though.
>>139447 I decided to use bees to defeat Christian Rosencreutz.
>>139533 Be careful of walking down that path. It may prove to be a slippery slope.
>>139535 Bees and similar insects are a dark yet tempting path to power. It may seem like you can control them at first, but in the end you must struggle to ensure that you do not become them as well.
>>139536 >you must struggle to ensure that you do not become them as well I already embraced it, and made them a part of myself. I got the joke, but funnily enough I create the bees as dark matter terminals of myself
>>139536 Listen it’s very simple: If a bunch of flightless men start looming over you with their little bee cocks in one bee-hand and a dollop of royal jelly in the other, and ask you if you’re down to do some Diddy LARPing for the greater good of the colony. You just say no. Just say no to bee gangbangs.
>>139537 You have not only chosen to wield the insects, but brought more insectoid corruption into the world, your own once-sacred self as the medium. In your LUST for transient power you LOST your HUMANITY and became a SHITTY INSECT. >>139538 Insects know nothing of consent though. They are evil, soulless beasts, and would make of the world whatever they wish with no regard for reality's fragile balance, or the wills of men.
>>139537 dark matter Oh SHIT, I almost forgot to update the -2 people who care about Nu-Destiny lore on recent developments. >Destiny: The Darkness lore update >The following information is largely infodumped from a version of Chioma who isn’t mutilated and/or deleted by the increasingly psychotic and frustrated (sexually and otherwise) Conductor, and a version of Maya Sundaresh who isn’t a raging turbocunt. It turns out Maya is such an awful shitbag that being simulated by the fucking Vex somehow improved A version of her morally. >Maya’s Vex are continuing to make distressing amounts of progress in harnessing dark matter >See, dark matter is normally a sort of Vex kryptonite; it’s too difficult to simulate so it acts as a sort of corruption to them >HOWEVER, if the Vex can control it enough they can exploit the quantum superposition state it has on all matter and energy. They could, according to Good Maya, change a timeline without physically entering and building constructs inside it. Or going by the same logic, exponentially accelerate the rate of Vex assimilation by smearing radiolaria everywhere rapidly >Also in what I have to assume is a case of getting too lost in the Sword Logic sauce, Eris kind of relates to The Conductor (the batshit insane Maya) trying to do things like swap the past Earth for the present Earth
>>139540 Would you say I RESENT THE JOKE would give me the processing power to harness dark matter?
>>139540 I am one of those -2 people. Why am I a negative person Shard? >Maya sucks, and a Vex simulation of her somehow sucks less Amazing. >Dark Matter Progress INTERESTING for Vex Jumpers. >"past good, present sucks!" I mean, they DID have a Golden Age in the past. It's vaguely understandable to want that back. Even though they got anally rammed in the end and lost everything to enemies they had no way to deal with. I can see reminiscing about the good without quite realizing that it also brings back the bad.
Ah fuck, head swimming, I'm sick again. Today is gonna be fun.
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If I start my Chain in Blood & Magic and join the Circle of Order as the Lord/Lady of Winds (or maybe Storms, haven't decided), will that tip the balance a little, or are we all still going to get eaten by any or all of the following? >some random Bloodforge mage siccing Crypt units on us in sufficient numbers to make us roll over and die >Tartyron, the Lord of Chaos >the Leader of the Legendary Campaign >the endless fiends and undead armies of the Plague of Fiends >the somehow even more endless armies of Zakhara doing the Scouring of the Utter East
>>139541 Honestly yeah, I mean as I’ve said before it’s very clear Maya is more of a detriment than benefit to the Vex at this point and they’re still making rapid progress on the whole dark matter thing for something the Vex apparently haven’t been able to (or maybe have been too autistic to attempt) for the lifespan of the entire universe in all possible timelines up to this point. >>139542 >Why am I a negative person Statistics and damned lies based on how many Destiny content creators are having melties about their “careers” going down the shitter, and how the community has entered full doom mode even on reddit, mainly >It’s vaguely understandable The unhinged part is that Conductor-Maya’s original plan was to simply have the Vex rebuild all the Golden Age stuff physically, but it’s becoming abundantly clear from the lore entries related to her failure to wrest III under her thumb that Maya getting BTFO by Saint-14 and (you) is giving her a perfectionist meltdown. Her pretences of “I want to recreate the Golden Age for the greater good of humanity” are rapidly devolving into her actual underlying motive of “I WANT EVERYTHING TO BE PERFECT THE WAY I WANT IT TO BE FROM THE STATE OF SOCIETY TO MY LESBIAN WIFE AGREEING WITH EVERYTHING I SAY” It is more plainly no longer about the Golden Age anymore, it is actively about stroking Maya’s ego. She is basically a smaller, even pettier Witness.
>>139545 Truly amazing. Maya is just the gift that keeps on giving. I really, really want her to stop giving but she just refuses to stop.
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>>139545 Destiny Question, would a Hentai Villain mindbreaking a heroine count as enough "proof" of being stronger under Sword Logic to "sharpen" myself?
How does the imperial city guard oppress the Thieves Guild when the Thieves Guild is an official imperial organization?
>>139522 Even Mythus is not immune to Mythus propaganda. >Also FORCE them to go Monkey by having Gaia send them visions about the clown being the bigger problem and having the monkey be a Wyrm agent. Honestly, you don't even have to go that far. Garou are such raging fucktards that they're inherently Monkey-oriented and would never fit in Clown Games except maybe to get chucked into the Dark Road and deal with existential horrors or be used as morbid examples. I can also picture them simply splattering themselves against the Mydtery Men simply because they'd keep trying to attack Players in Good Standing and would never put 2-and-2 together as to why they keep instantly dying when they try to attack say, this one bored-looking storeclerk.
>>139545 >It is more plainly no longer about the Golden Age anymore, it is actively about stroking Maya’s ego. She is basically a smaller, even pettier Witness. That's just what the Veil does to you apparently. Turn you into a micro-Witness. >>139547 Yes. All the Sword Logic cares about is affirming that you are mightier than someone else and your claim to existence is stronger. Savathun leverages it by outsmarting people, and the wider Hive generally leverage it through mass death. But there's nothing saying that mindbreaking/ego-deathing people isn't another way to prove that your claim to existence is greater than theirs.
Has your jumper ever used future knowledge to engage in what is technically insider trading?
If you went on a chain with the order set for a bunch of jumps determined beforehand, would the you from four to twelve jumps in be annoyed with the you from before the chain started for a sudden shift into horny degeneracy after decades of becoming an extremely capable non-gooner?
>>139526 The best one I can think of offhand is Lord of Vermin in Shin Megami Tensei. It essentially makes you Beelzebub. It only allows you to control one type of vermin, such as "bats" or "crows" or "flies", but it gives you essentially planetary control over all members of that species and also buffs them to be incredibly powerful. Such that a single cockroach you control actually has combat power equivalent to the lowest ranked demons, which is sufficient to kill an entire squad of heavily armed human soldiers.
>>139551 Being able to see the future isn't insider trading. Insider trading is when you have awareness of an event because you're "on the inside" (i.e. involved in that company) and it's designed to prevent those within a given organization from exploiting knowledge that others don't have in order to essentially racketeer them through trading. So by the law, even if you had some sort of ability to see the future accurately, that wouldn't be illegal as long as you're not involved with the operation of the company or privy to corporate information that isn't available or can't be acquired (even through guessing) by others.
>>139501 >Didn't that guy sort of redeem himself before he died? Not in the slightest
Does anyone know what changed in the last update of tome of radiance?
>>139556 Yurification was increased by 666%.
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>>139557 Dangerously based.
>>139557 Deploy the heterosexuality missiles.
>>139559 It is too late, anon. Your missiles are already gay.
Reading up on the origin of Undine/Sylph/Salamander fairies in 15th century texts and finding out that the guy who first wrote about them was a big believer in human-fairy marriage. Turns out "Waifu the Fairy" goes back a long way.
>>139474 >Also which Aeons are at the top of your kill list in Honkai Star Rail? Xipe, practically does nothing while THEIR followers do anything but being harmonious. Penacony is nothing but a long string of betrayal and the strong taking advantage of the weak and who knows what the rest of THEIR faction looks like.
>>139561 Modern obsession with elves is basically that. Hell, elf and fairy is profoundly conflated in modern fiction.
>>139544 >Blood & Magic Can't find thee jump. Plz repost or link or just tell me where it is.
>>139563 "Here is an all female race of beautiful women that have great singing voices and can control water. You should marry one. You REALLY should marry one." - Guy inventing the Undine
>>139531 I was there when this gif happened. Early wf was fun.
>>139474 >Also which Aeons are at the top of your kill list in Honkai Star Rail? Nanook and IX, with later Aha. The other have mainly bad cults, and I want to understand better abundance before making a call on THEM, but those three are actively dangerous.
>>139359 Not directly, but I think with clever usage you can utilize both to influence each other. Self-buffs, meta-magic like alterations, multistage complex magic spells, messing with conditional spells, etc.
>>139565 Aaaand "watery tart" now sounds like an innuendo.
>>139554 What if I also got company secrets by reading the minds of its BoD and CEO?
Any perks that let you introduce a new element to a pre-existing setting? Maybe a supplement?
>>139571 Pick a divine attribute, Nobilis. But preferably Wanderer, Flore, Style or Sealed.
>>139571 You are introducing a new element to a pre-existing setting almost every time you jump, anon.
>>139572 >>139573 Magical Element I mean.
>>139574 I stand by my answer. Nobilis.
>>139575 Same here. If you wanna deep fundamental integration of some new bits and bobs into underlying firmament of the setting, that's somewhat slightly different, I suppose. Although even then bringing in something that has a tendency to spread around would do the job. Unsong, Oasis of Fantasy, Exalted (at very high end), yeah Nobilis, and so on all have the means to do this either through perks or through in-universe capability.
>>139571 One of the two 600cp god perks in Mesopotamian Mythology lets you do that.
>>139577 I think Bronze Age collapse perk that allows to manifest divinities that do not actually exist also can do this with sufficient finagling.
Lavos has been living rent free in my head for the past hour or so. Specifically, how easy it was to beat. So this alien entity that can end the world in a single cutscene gets jumped and ganked by a band of weirdos who’ve been wandering around going on random adventures all over time and space. If it HADN’T revived at the end of time, would Chrono and co just be swaggering around the planet like Hokuto no Ken characters due to the sheer combat disparity between them and (one assumes) every other individual left at that point? And if Team Chrono DIDN’T need to become the most powerful beings in history to kill it (the first time around, when there’s no weird Frozen Flame/Schala fighting from the inside shit at play), does that mean virtually anyone could kill Lavos if they thought to? Like Queen Zeal. She wouldn’t because she’s practically in love with the thing. But she has the power, surely. I’m just saying, Lavos kind of sucks for a JRPG planetary invader entity. It seems to have put all it’s character points into Special leaving it with shit mobility, shit durability, relatively shit offence, and a bunch of weird situational abilities like reviving in an evolved time-eating form or ending the world once it’s finished charging. No wonder it wants to fuse with you to upgrade itself in the Chrono Cross scenario.
>>139579 >would Chrono and co just be swaggering around the planet like Hokuto no Ken characters due to the sheer combat disparity between them and (one assumes) every other individual left at that point? No, they went back home and then got offscreened by a miniboss they already defeated.
>>139580 …well alrighty then, I guess that pretty much confirms Lavos really was a bitch who relied on special moves over his base stats, and would probably get fucking bullied by all the other bullshit primarily-biological alien invaders.
>>139579 So, to clarify. Killing Lavos required them to break time multiple times, travel across the entirety of history to gather allies and equipment, then specifically go out of their way to attack Lavos when she's at her absolute weakest, using weapons specifically designed to kill her. Not only that, but the protagonists were literally the end result of sixty five million years of intentional selective breeding, because Lavos was literally breeding the entire world to increase their power
>>139582 Jap shounen-adjucent fiction has "and then you become a bitch after the story ends" baked in its very genes. Fiction in general tbh but jap shounen, particularly so.
>>139582 The weapons specifically designed to kill her would stand out more to me if it wasn’t for the fact that as the other guy mentioned, they were punked by a miniboss on the way home. And IIRC the weapons designed to kill him were basically highly magical shards of minerals contaminated by his presence so logically they should be pretty good against everything else except…no? That miniboss being an even superior example of selective breeding just raises questions about why they are in fact just the miniboss and not running the place like Queen Zeal was back in the day. Also I don’t think gathering allies was THAT important. Said allies included a frog and a cavewoman. >>139583 In hindsight, it was oddly respectable Harry actually got to become the head Auror after defeating Voldemort. The MC of the Demonata Saga also briefly got to become a fucking god of death and wipe out 99.99% of all demons. Some of the magical girl series give credit where it’s due to predecessors as well. FF13-3 also ends with Lightning as straight up a goddess doing whatever she wants (which just happens to be chilling in her new world) but well. It’s FF13-3. The culmination of one man’s waifu obsession. At least SMT 1 and 2 have the ultimate excuses for MCs to just suck: God treats death as a doorway and time as a veil, and he simply respawns in a bad mood to curse someone from beyond mortal perception.
>>139582 And then the main protagonists were defeated by a joke character.
>>139561 yeah it was a way for them to get souls. Interestingly the original literal Mermaid story also directly connects to that with Mermaids(who are basically Undines) not having souls like humans do but longer physical lifespans.The Mermaid doesen't just want to marry the prince because she loves him, but because it will also give her an eternal soul. When she fails and dies, she actually gets turned into a Sylph and gets a second chance at obtaining an eternal soul by doing good deeds. I dunno, maybe you could do something with that, even if its just a oc companion.
>>139585 Should’ve just gotten him to solo Lavos, desu.
How would you rule taking these two drawbacks together? >200CP Ancestral Seal: You become literally incapable of dealing lethal damage to others. No matter how hard you try, you absolutely cannot kill anyone or anything. >200CP Twilight’s Fall: Any abilities you may have, including the Merciful class feature, which would allow you to hold back your powers to make sure they don’t kill no longer function.
>>139588 You know Lyrical Nanoha? That.
>>139588 You can only kill your loved ones
>>139589 >You know Lyrical Nanoha? I don't.
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>>139592 I have three words for you. Nonlethal Planet Buster.
>>139592 She doesn't actually blow up planets. That's just a meme.
>>139595 It may be a meme, but the principle still applies.
>>139588 I'd go with the worst of both where you are unable to kill those you want to kill and unable to hold back against those you want to hold back against. Every strike in a friendly spar against an ally would be lethal and every strike against an enemy in a fight to the death would be non-lethal.
>>139565 U awake?
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>>139586 Potential, potential. >>139599 Yep. I've got a day off and I'm currently writing a thingy
>>139600 >pics What is this?
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>>139601 A lore doc for Alfheim Offline. Fleshing out and making Alfheim its own proper world rather than a VR game. Which means filling in all the details that SAO never covered or didn't quite mesh. See >>138964 TLDR is that I spent ages trying to find a story with a fairy focus that I could make a jump for after falling down the Fairy Gardener CYOA rabbit hole, could only find like 3 or 4 but none had the aesthetic I was after, so I decided to do "Alfheim Online but played straight"
>>139600 I think I would have preferred if it kept closer to canon but still great work, seems interesting.
>>139600 neat. on the first page you wrote Oberon as Oderon. Otherwise you may want to include some of the stat bonuses mentioned, like Salamanders having high physical strength or Cait Sith having high agility and sharp senses.
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I managed to send my worldbuilding writing for this Generic Isekai to my phone and then post it to the chain writing thread here. I'm gonna try to work out a few system details now before I continue working out what my own path is like. As I would actually like people to see that I posted world building stuff, here's a neat fusion sprite of Dusclops and Breloom to grab attention. >>139605
>>139597 Makes sense to me.
>>139598 Magical. Thanks anon.
>>139526 Generic Isakie
>Realize my perks would combo well for making getting a few waifus in Honkai star rail a snap without factoring in Harem perks Anyone had a similar realization?
>>139593 I like those aesthetics, I guess I know what my next jump will be, Thank you my dear anon
>>139548 Technically, the thieves guild is not an official imperial organization any more than any other criminal organization. Some places just tolerate it more than others, and the Imperial City and its guards very much do not.
Upon seeing your tech/science capabilities, this waifu runs up to you and immediately shouts "Make babies with me!" How does your Jumper respond?
>Notes: "Within the system, races are granted Jobs and the ability to strengthen them through Promotion, while beasts and monsters have the ability to take new, stronger forms through Evolution. These mechanisms mirror one another with internal Letter Rankings, and rates of progress. There are seven letter rankings, including the standard ranks of A down to F, and the more mythical S that stands above them all. Although foundations are often unfair, the System provides compensation that can allow those lower on the scale to obtain higher standing with the effort and luck to do so. >Although it can vary from instance to instance, Ranks D, E, and F can upgrade every 20 levels, while those ranked A, B, and C can upgrade every 30 levels. Although few but that of myth and legend can claim to have seen it, the highest level known is that of 120, meaning the difference is drastic at the upper bounds. Though it's common for Letter Rankings to improve through promotion or evolution, the growth rate remains unchanged from one's foundations." I'm thinking of using these mechanics for my Generic Isekai system, that way I have some structure for my growth. Candle to Ceremonial Candle I think grants me one rank of improvement because of the difference in material value and the divine qualities. Chandler into Temple Chandler might be my first job change?
>>139613 First, acknowledge that she is probably just asking to collaborate on some project, and agree because, hey, why not? Second, be caught completely off guard if she actually means the more traditional definitions of the term.
>>139613 Too much work, don't waste my time.
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>>139613 "No that's a weird thing to ask"
>>139613 Sure when I'm free, are you experienced with the more biological aspects or do you only use mechanical tools? I can do both.
>>139613 Jumper makes her file a technology transfer request like every other fucko who asks.
>>139579 >>139582 >>139585 If we're bringing in Chrono Cross, then Lavos ding just resulted in it being sent to the literal Darkness Before Time, where it merged with Schala who gave it enough context for its cattle jumping it with shotguns that the aberrant non-entity then decided that it was just going to delete the multiverse out of sheer seething spite. So uh...killing Lavos actually ended up making things far worse, actually.
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>Doublechecking through Primordial Peerage (the new Beast the Primordial supplement) because I was sure I was high/misread something >Reread this Well, shit. I guess Lair 10 Beasts dying and turning into rank fucking 10 spirits really is working as intended. For reference this is the rule for what happens when one of the Emancipated, a Beast who has actively severed his connection to the Dark Mother and thus diminished his own powers, dies as long as he was pretty powerful by young’un Beast standards at the time.
>>139621 Sell me on jumping Beast. I feel vaguely dirty even contemplating the idea, but it looks like they have some interesting paths to power of their own...?
>>139621 >the Beastfags were 100% fucking right and all the magefags seething and screeching "it doesn't work by RAW!!" were not only utterly wrong, but got completely BTFO'd by word of the devs themselves God, I fucking wish the magefags on /tg/ were still around/still cared about WoD. I'd spend all day rubbing this in their faces.
>>139621 Oh great, a new CofD book I can't read.
>>139623 I'm pretty sure most magefag complaints were along the lines of "This is fucking stupid," rather than "This isn't real."
>>139622 >Sell me on jumping Beast Power. The worst kind of power, strongest when others are at their weakest and most distressed. Born from abuse and refined through the cycle that it perpetuates. Oh yeah and uh if you are the cyclops/hydra/giant/cryptid version of a furry this is an excuse to be a weirdo who believes he’s one so hard he gets weird Stand-like/Hamon-level powers (and what amounts to a spooky Domain Expansion) based on being one. >>139624 Eh it’s like 40% off on drivethrurpg rn. I’d offer to just post the damn thing here since that’s how little respect I have for Onyx Path by now, but I dunno how afraid everyone here is of the watermark bogeyman. >>139623 I think nWoD being a mostly dead IP has BTFO’d every X-fag pretty hard. Besides, I don’t think anyone is actually happy about Beast of all things waving it’s “lesson”-teaching dick around.
>>139622 The only character concept I've managed to come up with that made me want to play Beast literally wasn't possible with the gameline as-written until a later book made Beasts having dissenting views possible.
Dagoth Ur anon, now is your time. https://youtu.be/uVFmPFNyxPM
>>139622 Fursona Domestic Abuse
>>139621 How hard is it for a Beast to get a Rank 10 Lair?
>>139625 No, there were a bunch who kept going "this doesn't work via RAW and you're stupid for bringing up anything that can challenge mage supremacy" like they always do - basically acting like patronizing Twitter moms to adults over the internet. They essentially acted like they knew all the mechanics of other gamelines (much like DaveB does) when they barely understood their own. Was a miserable time for all. >>139626 >Besides, I don’t think anyone is actually happy about Beast of all things waving it’s “lesson”-teaching dick around. I'm not happy about it either. But I will take any opportunity to make magefags miserable. Those fuckers made using 4/tg/ for WoD talk the most insufferable fucking thing for so many years.
>>139628 REMINDER that CofD Archmages have got a weird Dagoth Ur thing going on where they naturally exist inside of their own souls and astral project out into physical reality, which is the exact reverse of how that's supposed to work.
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>>139613 I show her my Medabots.
>>139627 The even newer Emancipated faction being literally Beasts telling the Dread Mommy to fuck off forever really does feel like the Beast writing team is paying attention to what people want (to NOT play child molestors) >>139630 It’s basically like a regular human getting a Masters or PhD (depending on the Beast’s circumstances, natural affinity for being spoopy/a fucking metaphysical child molester, various outside factors). Or owning a house in a third world country. It’s an ambitious project requiring hard work, dedication, drive and strategy. But it’s nominally achievable for anyone willing to put in the work to Lairmax. I imagine it would be even easier for a newbie Jumper who gets all the Lair shit in one of the Beast jumps.
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>>139626 I may be a furry, but I'm in it for the porn rather than some sort of weird self-expression. And I may have an addiction to power, but I really don't like abuse. >>139627 >>139629 Yeah. I'm sold on NOT jumping Beast.
>>139626 >I dunno how afraid everyone here is of the watermark bogeyman. Just post it. Anyone afraid can just ignore it.
>>139635 Hey, did you know that one of the example Beasts in the books is a little girl with shark powers who uses them to pretend to drown at the beach before diving to the deeps/her Lair so that when a lifeguard furiously dives in after her to try and save her and can't find her, they go home that day believing they let a little girl die?
>>139637 That's sincerely fucked up, but I vaguely knew of that already. It was referenced in less detail before, but now I know a bit more. I don't think I can thank you for that knowledge.
>>139626 >Eh it’s like 40% off on drivethrurpg rn. I’d offer to just post the damn thing here since that’s how little respect I have for Onyx Path by now, but I dunno how afraid everyone here is of the watermark bogeyman. I mean, what's the real danger there?
>>139636 Shit, file’s too large. I’ll toss it on Google Drive when I get back home.
>>139638 It's bewildering how bad Beasts can be, and even more bewildering to remember they used to be even worse before official release.
>>139639 I sincerely have no idea, but /tg/ acts like major TTRPG publishers are the goddamn cartel and will send lawyers directly to your doorstep.
>>139631 >Those fuckers made using 4/tg/ for WoD talk the most insufferable fucking thing for so many years Good, Garous and Vampires need to eat dirt at every opportunity.
Does WoD have Wendigos?
>>139644 I don't think that's going to go well with WoD books.
>>139645 There is 100% at least 4 different things called Wendigos in WoD, and maybe 6 in CofD. Right off the top of my head I'm remembering those Cannibalism spirits in the Mage Boston book.
>>139642 I mean WotC did send some pinkertons that one time they accidentally gave out the wrong MtG card to some rando but otherwise there’s practically no risk, especially if you live outside of Burgerland.
Is it weird if you dress up like a ninja but otherwise fight as a normal warrior by charging in from the front?
>>139649 Yes. Why are you covering your face and walking with soft clothes instead of armor?
>>139653 Anon could be wearing concealed armor or armored/enchanted clothes.
>>139647 How hard would it be for a Mage to make Windigos (evil horse spirits of cold and winter that are powered by/replicate through racism disharmony)?
>>139655 Spirit 4, or 5 if making them from scratch.
>>139649 Yes, why are you dressing up as a ninja if you aren't one? Even the Naruto ones just dress like WW1 soldiers with sandals after they stop being genin.
>>139504 Ayo, the new event spawns tomorrow. You planning on getting any operators from the Masses travel banner? I have my 300 pulls ready. I'm getting that disabled angle. >URSUS The new story arc is focused on Ursus, right? Fuck, I hope an non patriot wendigo makes an appearance. Or a Wendigo emperor's blade. Or just more emperor's blade in general they're fucking so cool.
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>tfw you start gaslighted Beasts by making them worship Fear instead of the Dark Mother, so with any luck they do something immensely stupid and all get themselves eaten by the Paranormal Trading one threat for another, arguably objectively worse, one. But Beasts deserve it. >>139637 That's awful, but it sounds on brand for Beasts. >>139643 Their fans are usually pretty chill. Magefags are never chill, so I can't stand 'em. >>139655 Spirit 5 is your best bet.
>>139655 >>139656 Actually add Prime 4 and any of Death 3, some Fate, or Forces either 1 or 5 to load them up with spells too, just in case.
>>139659 I genuinely do not believe that the Paranormal Order setting invading/infecting CofD would actually meaningfully change anything.
>>139656 >>139659 >>139660 Thank you. Now, what would be some fun settings to unleash racism wraiths Windigos onto?
>>139644 Ah yes, the old standby. Well, without further ado: Presenting one of the Beast the Primordial(TM) supplements of all time. YOU GET A BEAST, SHE GETS A BEAST, EVERY FUCKING SPLAT GETS THEIR PERSONAL BEAST-LITE BEASTIE LMAO. EVEN HUMANS CAN BE GREAT VALUE BEASTS NOW.
>>139661 It probably wouldn't only because the Elements don't care, but I could incidentally see them hijacking a non-trivial number of the major antagonists. Like the God-Machine, Judges of Duat and Exarchs go from just doing their own thing to being agents of Knowledge, the Abyss becomes a mix of all or most of them depending on the manifestation, Idigam are Blood + Knowledge and Fear, True Fae are Knowledge + Energy and Fear, etc. They'd incidentally also make every single spiritual or metaphysical realm infinitely more perilous and nobody would ever be able to tell you why. Like overall, it doesn't change much - just places the setting under new, equally bad management. But said management also aren't interested in running anything or actively concocting apocalyptic schemes to end all reality, and UNLIKE the Exarchs or Abyss or such, you can channel their powers without immediately eating fucking shit because they don't care.
>>139662 If we had a Human Domestication Guide jump, I'd suggest that. But the Affini would probably just turn them into another tool for plant-rape. Similarly, I'd suggest Wearing Power Armor To Magic School to troll the Nexus. But again, no jump. Out of Cruel Space could be a fun one to toss them into, simply because there are enough men who stifle and chafe under how little functional ability they have with how heavily they're babied to give the Windigos a feast.
>>139613 No, she is too young and jumper has standards.
Am I just wrong about how to pronounce "and"? Why do sites keep telling me it rhymes with fund and second?
>>139667 Depends on your accent.
>>139667 Is the sound of the letter "A" pronounced as "A" or "uh" Because I hear people mix and match them. So you can have And and Uhnd
>>139663 So i can be a Beast Mage?
>>139668 >>139669 Huh, never heard someone pronounce it as uhnd outside exaggerated German accents. Thanks, sorry.
So, for Generic Isekai, if I use the discount for Filthy Cheater's 800XP to bring it down to 400XP do I still get the 800 stipend or do I get 400? >Filthy Cheater - 100 XP / 200 XP / 400 XP / 600 XP / 800 XP A concept frequently associated with the Isekai genre is the “Cheat”. A “Cheat” refers to any ability or asset meant to give someone (usually an otherworlders) a unique and often significant advantage over those around them. That said, in worlds where it’s common for individuals to develop or inherit abilities unique to them (like powers in a superhero-based world or some kind of hereditary magic), then these could be said to be a kind of “Cheat” in their own right. All that matters is that this is not something that can easily be emulated by anyone other than the Cheat’s wielder. >Buying any level of this is required to be able to access the Cheat section of this Jump. Your initial Cheat Point stipend will be equal to however many Experience Points you spend on this. Any additional Cheat Points will cost twice as much.
>Shard befriended Oryx Kino.
Thinking my Level 40 Evo will either be Miracandle (stronger holy powers), Durandle (the holy sword novelty candle), or Grandle (the giant candle).
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What are evil Jumpers up to?
>>139670 They really shitty excuses for both a Beast and a Mage (can only learn 3 fuckin' Arcana lmao, and no Atavisms. On the plus side, instead of Paradox they get their Dynasty's curse. The examples given is either being charmed by someone they think has an interesting story, or outright amnesia. Or having a hankering for consuming luxuries for months, and a tarnished silver version of the Midas curse if it's real bad. Whether this is better or worse than actual Paradox depends on whether you feel severe personal impediments are worse than reality itself fucking up your magic) but technically yeah.
>>139663 >spoiler Horrible.
>>139677 Got sad that hero looked depressed. So jumper took him to go get some food and talk about his failing marriage. Just because jumper is a villain, doesn't mean he wants his hero to have a bad life.
>>139678 Should jumpers go Owod Mage or Nwod mage, Shard?
>>139681 How much are you willing to put up with a bunch of power hungry boomers who bought up most of the spiritual real estate before your birth?
>>139681 Not him, but nWoD mage if you don't want to worry about Paradox, the Traditions and Technocracy or loose limitations even after becoming an archmaster. oWod mage if you want to not be a Quintessence whore forever and don't want to get sucked into a war against the insane god-symbols of tyranny and their pet mages for the fate of the world's soul.
>>139682 I'm willing to put up with quite a bit. I already know my time in either is going to be shit no matter what I choose.
>>139683 I also feel that oWoD mages have easier time figuring out how their shit combines with other magic systems you pick up later on.
>>139677 Deploying Disney branches to other worlds.
>>139681 >>139683 >>139682 Maybe I should go to both, the Nwod mage jump has a perk to make me immune to Paradox and anything similar to it. I've heard Paradox is a massive problem for Owod archmages.
>>139687 Nwod Archmage jump, I mean.
>>139681 Paradox is much harder to cheat in oWoD than nWoD. That said, there IS at least one clearcut interpretation to invalidate it and buff magic to literally Godlike power whereas the war against the Exarchs is basically fought on a wing and a prayer that enough godlike mages will Ascend, enough powerful divine allies will throw in with the free mages, and the Oracles will one day come back with the milk. All things which it is very unclear will ever happen. In a highly technical sense, based on the most statted Ascended archmage we have (the Corpus Author) the absolute pinnacle of archmage mastery is technically lower than the absolute pinnacle of oWoD mage mastery because it is "merely" nigh-absolute power over a couple of Arcana (and I say nigh mainly because there is nothing that says 2 Forces 10 entities can't exist, at which point DaveB or someone needs to answer the question of what the fuck happens when 2 such entities cast opposing Forces spells/numina) whereas achieving the most optimistic version of Ascension (or Descension, if you're simultaneously a masochist, a psychopath and a solipsist) means ACTUALLY effectively turning all of humanity into world-shaping gods. More to the point nWoD magic never stops having incredibly long preptimes for it's best shit because you need to engineer a Quintessence to use all the high rank stuff (setting aside the question of whether fucking Time 10 workings can be ruled to operate retroactively, no shuddup don't think too hard about it) In the long run, oWoD is high-risk high reward while nWoD is /relatively/ low risk low reward. RELATIVELY. I mean either way if you Ascend you're gonna shit on Thanos unless he gets his gauntlet. At which point it's more of a fair fight.
Non QQ perks to give my sperm special power?
>>139677 Discharging people phones while they are sleeping.
>>139690 The Wild Thing’s perkline from Kult has something that could help. Not sure if it’s the 400 or 600 perk though.
>>139689 Yeah, I think I'll go Nwod Mage + Archmage and then Owod Mage. Thanks for the info.
>>139690 Greek Myth, if the special power is impregnating inanimate objects.
>>139686 Worse than Shard.
>>139692 Technically it's both, but the more specific one is the 400 CP.
After careful consideration i'm confident on saying Tau is best option ever to be in the Warhammer 40k universe. >far away from major events >race doesn't have psyker affinity >jump drives don't enter the warp >tech base well developed and complete >no need to fear black crusades or major demons I pity the jumper that chooses otherwise.
>>139697 The Necrons would like a word with you.
>>139676 would you say your jumper would be the actual candle or more the flame?
>>139676 Those sound like Pokemon names.
>>139697 Have fun being in a communist dictatorship where you won't even get a name unless you achieve sufficient rank. Also the auxiliaries they recruit over time include enough psykers to make warp issues slowly become an issue for them as well.
>>139677 Currently in my chain I'm trying to find a Naruto Jump with a self insert option so I can have Jumper coup the Leaf Village after Hiruzen dies and start the 4th Great Ninja War by killing the Daimyo.
>>139697 I don't think most people care about them anymore beyond wanting to fuck blue alien girls after the retcons.
>>139701 He does come from Reddit you know...
>>139697 >Irrelevant >Don't even have souls >Gay FTL that doesn't take you through superhell like a gigachad >No random DAoT McGuffins lost to time that can do whatever the writer(you) feels like >No reason to shit on Abandon I'm seeing nothing but negatives here.
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>>139702 Nubee's version allows you to SI into people who's build is close enough. >13. This has been asked, and we’ve decided to allow it under certain conditions. You may replace canon characters within the series, providing you can create a build that captures their capabilities. In this way you will essentially acquire nothing except their position in the plot, as you bought everything else they have with your own points.
>>139703 Right, i forgot the stupid retcons. >>139705 insanity.
>>139697 Leagues of Votann have the same benefits but with better tech.
Night dudes
>>139706 iirc that was a veritable nightmare for the two MC's specifically because you needed to buy the fucking rinnegan or whatever for the reincarnate shit
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>>139697 ONE MIND, CHITTEN, BODY CHITTEN
>>139709 ITS NOON WAKE UP YOU LAZY DOROMOUSE
>>139709 Good night WoL
>>139706 I feel extremely retarded for not noticing that before. I don't know why I assumed that version didn't have the option, I was probably conflating it with the old version of the Naruto Jump(though I wouldn't be surprised if that had the option too).
>>139699 My Jumper is the wax, the wick, and the flame. He tried quenching the flame at one point and didn't die instantly but did start fading rapidly, thus panicked reignition. Why does that fire have sick abs? >>139700 Oh yeah? I'm just adjoining words onto candle, so Iguess they do.
>>139709 May you finally wake up to anon making 30 jumps.
Why don't they make stinky loser nerd wives IRL?
>>139707 >Doesn't want to engage in horrific atrocities(mass scale), and live in a dystopian shithole Sounds like you're the insane one here.
>>139717 They are called fujoshis, and they are one of the worst types of human beings.
>>139717 They do, they just wouldn't like you.
>>139717 It’s too expensive, like everything else these days
>>139717 They do, they're at home playing videogames and masturbating to the idea of getting man harems.
>>139720 Nobody likes me apparently
>>139715 >Oh yeah? I'm just adjoining words onto candle, so Iguess they do. >Miracandle, use Ember!
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>>139724 >use Ember You need more skill with that.
>>139709 Night, WoL.
>>139723 Kind of hard if you don't actually get out there irl.
>>139613 Hit her with impregnation beam.
>>139724 Jokes on you, I got Ember at Level 1! Chandler I just gave really low level fire magic in addition to specific production skills, mostly for starting or snuffing tiny fires.
>>139600 >The World Tree Ah, I see you’ve found another tree.
>>139730 Damn tree squatting elves always trying to colonize my magic trees.
>>139727 A girl said I have pretty eyes and I'm still holding on to that to this day
>>139709 good night
>>139732 Tell them they can live in your magic trees, but they have to propagate them.
>>139730 The only good elf is a _ elf
>>139734 I once got told that I had a nice ass at my grandpa's funeral and I got so confused I stopped crying. Compliments really do stick with you.
>>139738 Who the fuck says something like that at a funeral?
>>139734 >>139738 You guys get compliments from people?
>>139739 A girl, presumably. I hope.
>>139740 I got one. Ever
>>139681 I heard that an Owod Mage could just create a Pocket Dimension full of Monster Girl wives who will feed them mouth to mouth everyday and just live there forever without ever hafting to interact with the setting again and that in Nwod they banned you from doing that. So go Owod and take the Marauder pill.
>>139739 At my grandpa's funeral I asked who the slut was my cousin brought. Turned out to be a female cousin I hadn't seen in years. Granted they did get drunk that night, insisted on sharing a room at grandma's over crowded house and she needed an emergency abortion a few months later.
>>139739 Yeah, thus the confusion. >>139741 Friend of my sister. Nice girl, but a bit slow at times. >>139740 Like, a few.
>>139742 >>139740 Y'know, this isn't technically true. I got lots of compliments from a lady but she was the most obviously gay woman ever and a friend of my dad so she was just being nice
>>139711 >pic Oh, Matara.
>>139744 Sweet Home Jumperbama.
>>139740 The women at work are always telling me I look good, but they are pushing retirement. The other younger ones as the bs complement of "you are perfect, just not for me" One of those women got pissed when I told her that there are no women at work worth dating, after she complained that me being single offended her.
>>139743 I'm quite sure you need to be an exemplar/god to make your own pocket dimension. At that level what's the difference between creating a dimension and finding a dimension in Umbra full of monster girls?
>>139613 Inform her that I use artificial aging to skip the infancy stage and achieve combat viability as quickly as possible. But if she wishes to collaborate on the Superman Project where I am attempting to engineer the ultimate Hero by artificially achieving the Quirk Singularity via condensing the genetic, evolutionary, and technological potential of all humankind into a single being who shall determine the future of the human race then she is welcome aboard. And for the last time, what I'm doing isn't illegal and no I'm not trying to take over the world. Stop breaking shit before I have my army of faceless biotechnological security drones beat the shit out of you guys and throw you into the ocean off the coast of my volcano island laboratory again.
>>139749 Besides, dating where you work is walking through a minefield with a blindfold. That woman would probably even agree if it came to talking about her dating in the workplace.
>>139750 You think I know? I'm just repeating what I've read on 1d6chan.
>>139752 Have you tried dating anywhere else?
>just saw a reddit comment that summed up fans of Order as "the fan of Order oscillates between a madman and a retard" Perfect summary, no notes. >>139661 >>139664 I will say though that things probably do get a little fucky if say, Tenebris ends up deleting Arcadia or some key concept from the Supernal. Or say, transfers complete control over the Supernal to Blood. >>139743 >take the Marauder pill Marauders are completely gibberingly insane. Don't do this.
>>139753 I don't blame you, i never played owod either.
I want to make a drawback about a cursed ring that gives you a second, dark personality. How do i make it good?
>>139754 Places with most success have generally been sports groups, hobby circles, and volunteering circles, but I've never needed to actively date.
>>139544 If the bloodforges get out there, and the jump starts under the presumption they already have, then I assume just being an additional member of the order won't help to prevent the wars and conflict as that cat is already out of the bag. At best you might be able to prevent Tartyron from getting free, which might stop the demon invasion (and thus the invasion of the Zakhara since without demons there's no need to invade to get rid of them) but honestly I think you're in for a rough ride no matter what origin you take since the bloodforges are already out there and in use. >>139579 It ended the world because its showed up and immediately nuked the entire planet and effectively ended civilization and all chance at organized resistance within a few minutes of appearing. Between that, the fact that the vast majority of survivors wouldn't even have known Lavos was responsible, and its hard outer shell protecting it I imagine half the reason nothing else ever killed it is because no one that had the potential to do the deed even knew they should do it. Lavos is powerful to be sure and capable of incredible mass destruction but as shown by the fact a rag-tag group of adventurers took it down Lavos ability to throw hands in an up close fight isn't remotely as good as its ability to nuke everything at range.
>>139743 I'm so glad MonMusu has done everything possible to cater to my lactation fetish
I actually had a girlfriend in middle school but she had to move. I reconnected with her a couple years ago and she said that she hadn't thought about it since back then and she barely remembered. That really upset me because I was genuinely in love with her and constantly fantasized about us getting married and having the idyllic life you'd see on aTV I just made all that up
>>139761 Get back in the chair, Psycho
>>139761 This is what happens when Psycho's desperation to be noticed by Ric goes unchecked.
>>139761 I'm not sure why you thought you should share this here, or why you thought it would garner anything but ridicule, cuck-boy.
>>139761 Zuko.png
>>139763 It would be nice to have literally anyone to confide in on this Earth but he wants to be a bitch and duck me
>>139763 As far as namefag love affairs go that's pretty benign.
>>139761 At least you had one, isn't that beautiful?
>>139761 Don't worry Psycho, we're all lonely weirdos here.
>>139755 >Marauders are completely gibberingly insane. Don't do this I don't think i'd ever want to be considered "sane" in a White Wolf setting. Besides, you get cool Paradox immunity and Game Master Authority by being one.
>>139761 When I was in middle school UFC was all the rage and many of the boys in class would go to the bathroom and grapple on the floor. It sounded very gay.
>>139768 "It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never have loved at all," is stupid and I hate it.
Damn by comparison I was a fucking chad compared to some of you anons in high school and I barely consider the me of those days to be a complete person nowadays.
>>139766 Saying "I made that all up" at the end kinda destroys any potential empathy we'd have for you Also, time and place, and you really shouldn't have posted that with your name and trip on. Seriously, if you just stopped posting with your trip on all the time, you'd have less people shitting on you.
>>139774 You shouldn't have empathy for me, I'm just making shit up For real though I have zero friends so I have to vent here or I'll have a nervous breakdown
>>139772 Sounds like a cope poem. I envy not in any moods The captive void of noble rage, The linnet born within the cage, That never knew the summer woods: I envy not the beast that takes His license in the field of time, Unfetter'd by the sense of crime, To whom a conscience never wakes; Nor, what may count itself as blest, The heart that never plighted troth But stagnates in the weeds of sloth; Nor any want-begotten rest. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.
>>139773 You don't become a complete person by having sex, you become a complete person by serving and worshipping Jesus Christ (I'm terrible at that too)
>>139775 >For real though I have zero friends so I have to vent here or I'll have a nervous breakdown Same.
>>139775 I wish you'd have a nervous breakdown. It would be funnier than this pathetic display.
>>139772 Wouldn't know about that
>>139777 The Lord forgives you.
>>139777 I'm still a virgin, I just had friends I connected with and had shared interests with and had different 4 girls tell me they had crushes on me at various points in middle/high school.
>>139773 Speak for yourself, i had a great time spending all my time on my laptop reading fanfiction and jump docs while my aid wrote all the answers for me.
>>139776 The much more complete poem actually reverses my opinion on it entirely which sucks because I wanted to keep hating it.
>>139677 Turning MHA into a cyberpunk dystopia, complete with Jumper's magical megacorp being the one actually in control of the American government and army. AFO is seething over in Japan both because Jumper and America are too powerful for him to fight, and because Jumper is the world turning the world into hellscape instead of AFO. All Might and the rest of the heroes, meanwhile, are totally unaware, since Jumper's been subtle about his expansion and corruption of the world. Also because Jumper's companies have saved the lives of many heroes, and even ensured All Might didn't weaken or become a skeleton after his first fight with AFO. Even aside from the good PR this brings Jumper, it makes most far less suspicious of him, because if Jumper was a villain, why would he be helping heroes against the villains?
>>139781 Thank God for that because every day I live in fear that I'll have a life that was worth nothing, a death that was worth nothing and then be in hell forever
>>139488 For the love of God, let us have a good Stellar Blade jump!
>>139737 >tfw no Lodoss War or Unicorn Overlord to get top tier anime elves >Instead we have FOTMeren beyond journeys end
>>139782 So you're voluntarily celibate is what you're saying
>>139785 I can see AfO as a saburo arasaka expy while All Might is a silverhand one. But i can't see a superhero culture existing in a cyberpunk dystopia.
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>>139791 I know wow lore from vanilla up to Legion like the back of my hand
>>139492 You actually have Nikke cross over with Nier and Stellar Blade. Now it has a Resident Evil crossover to.
>>139791 My mom tried to hire me a prostitute when I turned 18 and I told her not to
>>139791 I kissed someone on the lips before I turned 30. It’s over, go without me.
>>139794 The fuck?
>>139788 You already know what you need to do
>>139794 Smart call, you don't wanna get an STD so early into your adult life
>>139794 Reminds of St Thomas Aquinas, his family locked him a room with a prostitute because they didn't want him to become a Dominican friar. He chased the prostitute away with a hot poker.
>>139799 Based Aquinas?
>>139799 HOLY BASED!
>There’s another fucking Pokemon leak is in progress by the same person behind the Teraleaks >Gen 10 information already being shared Wtf >>139794 She sounds like she meant well, but that’s incredibly stupid.
>>139799 I always knew something about that guy screamed that he was gay, I just couldn't point my finger at it.
>>139799 Nothing could deter him from that sweet young choir boy anus.
>>139488 I don't know why I don't find Eve, 2B and Tifa attractive. I've unironically tried to psyop myself into getting horny for 2B just to enjoy the endleas stream of fan content, but alas it didn't work. I can acknowledge they're hot but they simply do nothing to activate my almonds. It's specially puzzling with ToBee because white hair and beauty marks are some of my favorite character design features.
>>139804 St Thomas Aquinas is a Japanese Kappa Youkai?
>>139802 What the fuck?
>>139802 Gamefreak really needs to work on their opsec
>>139808 >Implying they aren't doing it on purpose so they aren't forced to die working on pokemon for the rest of their lives Bold of you.
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>>139807 >>139808 Centroleaks surprise appearance on my feed. Some information about the beta for for Pokémon AZ as well. Even before that most of the megas have been leaked
>>139808 It wouldn't surprise if their opsec was managed entirely by intern-kun who also in charge of the move animations.
>>139790 Consider how MHA heroes are all already very connected to the government, with some of them having corporate sponsorships and connections. In a cyberpunk setting, the heroes are gradually made into protectors of the status quo and celebrities, more so than they already are, used to prop up the megacorps and the government and to deal with dissidents and criminals. They would no longer truly be heroes, or at least most of them won't be, instead being tools of those in power (in this case, Jumper and his allies/minions).
>>139810 >Can't even make a normal game without it breaking in half >Next game is going to be procedurally generated I am eager to see how shitty it will turn out.
>>139810 >pic This can only end poorly.
>>139766 Which Yu-Gi-Oh game was it that you played with Ric?
>>139791 I'm 35 and a kissless, handholdless virgin with no IRL friends.
>>139802 >>139802 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the next game we're due for is a remake, right? So up next is either going to be BW Remake or maybe GSC Remake Remake? >>139810 >Wind and Waves or not I guess.
>>139815 It was a website called dueling book or something
>>139805 Have you tried 2P?
>>139809 I wouldn't be surprised, there's been game devs and people that work in series/movies that straight up say in interviews that they leaked stuff on purpose to generate hype.
>>139810 Plot twist: all the Pokemon are also fakemons generated by AI in real time. And they're better than the ones designed by the actual devs.
>>139802 >ANOTHER leak >Gen 10 This truly is the year of Nintendo Clowning.
>>139810 It's almost definitely gonna be a clusterfuck, but I'm very interested in the how.
>>139794 Why the fuck would anyone do that?
>>139810 Oh that sounds like absolute shit
>>139794 Well, that's one way to lose your virginity. I actually played the idea.
>>139793 Jill's boobs are too big compared to her game.
>>139827 Nikke usually upgrades the boobs.
>>139730 The eternal grind to find more cool trees.
>>139824 Before my mom and my dad got together my dad went on a date with my aunt and my grandma thought my dad was gay because he didn't try to have sex with my aunt on the first date
>>139829 God I want more Vanillaware boobies.
>>139830 ...HUH??
>>139830 That just sounds amazingly stupid.
>>139830 You've got a weird ass family Psycho, your name is apt.
>>139829 Give us a purchasable World Tree sapling that puts out magical energy, like the Yuan Tree from Wu Dong Qian Kun.
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>>139830 Psycho, is your grandma Chris Redfield in disguise?
>>139837 But it was I, Chris Redfield!
>>139830 I recall in highschool something similar happened. The dad was really pushing for me to fuck his daughter and get her pregnant asap. Turns out she didn't like the idea of sex. Last I heard she was pushing 40 and never dated again or even got a job.
>>139828 It feel so weird, because I'm not sure if it's just a boobjob to maximize the fanservice, or if it's the transition from realistic to anime doing that. Anime boobies look so much bigger. It help that fanservice anime girl are literally build for sex.
>>139810 >procedurally generated >after the scuff that was Scarlet and Violet This shit is going to break on arrival.
>>139677 I killed and ate the soul of the local iteration of Boris Tadić before proceeding to impersonate him for two years. I systematically undermined the government of Serbia and made hundreds of millions by selling off public infrastructure to venture capitalists, before purposefully starting a hyper-inflationary cycle that drove 99% of the country into poverty. I then caused a war with every other former Yugoslav Republic that ended with the complete annihilation of the Serbian state and the division of its land between its neighbors. Naturally I then faked “my” death and spent the next 8 years living in luxury in Hawaii.
>>139837 The only way to tell is to roll a giant boulder down on her.
>>139835 Legend of mana has that iirc
>>139839 >never dated again or even got a job. Whats her number?
>>139844 Probably need a better jump for it too.
>>139845 Expand your taste and date real guys, they're easier.
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>>139821 If the recent Mega designs are anything to go by, not even AI can save them from being poorly executed/lazily done in the final result (Clefairy, Feralgatr, etc…). They’re already trying to avoid existing fakemon designs.
>>139810 >procedurally generated Pokemon Someone put this fucking franchise out of its misery, God.
>>139849 Pokemon is sadly one of the best examples of corporate greed I can think of. It's like the actual most profitable franchise of all time last I checked yet GameFreak is still a comparatively small studio with low dev times, and whose staff has clearly fucking checked out in at least one or two departments. God save the OST department because they're doing their best.
>>139848 Fakemon creators killing the chances of their favourite Pokémon ever getting satisfying evolutions and alt-forms is in a way incredibly fucking hilarious.
>>139848 >the design costs would be very high Fuck you, Nintendo. There's no way you couldn't afford to just buy the design rights from whatever fan artist you could find.
>>139850 >OST department fire whoever hired Ed Sheeran
>>139851 If the fakemon creators didn't exist, Nintendo still would not do it. They would simply find a different reason not to do it. For Nintendo it's far easier to stick with what already exists and pay their lawyers to do the heavy lifting.
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>>139818 >Dueling Book
>>139850 It's genuinely baffling, because by all means, Pokemon is a juggernaut, both as a business and in culture. Everyone knows Pokemon, even if the only Pokemon they can name is Pikachu. I can tell you about playing Pokemon Emerald for hours on end for weeks on end, talk about my friends and I used to play with Pokemon cards or how I still have that Jirachi movie...somewhere. And yet for whatever reason, Nintendo would rather burn the franchise to the ground then put in any meaningful effort.
>>139852 They don't even need to do it. It's their property, and said fan is creating a derivative work, if they don't want to get sued into oblivion Nintendo could just offer them a tour and a plushy of their creation then outright steal it and they'd just have to accept it.
>>139856 People are naturally inclined to take the easy way out. Gather enough of those people in a corporation and they will do the same thing. There was a contracting firm recently that got exposed for charging the Australian government 400k for a report that was compiled using Microsoft Azure. From what was released of the post report investigation, not only was much of the report wrong because of AI hallucination, but there was no real evidence that the firm did any work at all. All corporations care about is what they can get away with.
>>139858 Based corpos shitting on Australians.
>>139856 Nah, I wish Nintendo proper owned Pokemon outright, but from what I remember the actual ownership situation is a lot more complicated and weird. If Pokemon was purely Nintendo we would end up with a fraction of the titles, but they would trend towards like a dozen times the polish.
>>139856 >>139860 Same amount of lawsuits though probably.
I really like spreading jumper nonsense and powers around the world. A bunch of people will have quirks and stands and magic and mutant powers and so on
>>139663 >Dark Lords this is just Persona 5, fuck off
>>139863 Persona is overhyped.
>>139851 I stopped trying to understand GF after the ORAS reason for not putting in Battle Frontier because of mobile games. Oh yeah one more thing about the new Pokémon Legends ZA game: YOU CAN’T TURN OFF AUTOSAVE. Also Legends 3 concept leaked: IT’S GALAR, 1K years in the PAST. Possible Multi Region pokemon remake involving the protagonist to be able to walk from Sinnoh to Hoenn, will also include Kitakami. It’s also an MMO. Plans for Gen 11 to be released by 2030. Unova continues to be the best region as there’s no plans of a Gen 5 remake in Gen 10. The leaking is still going on , but at this point you can head off to /vp/.
>>139864 Better than SMT. Recent persona has been the only time ATLUS has been capable of holding themselves back from cramming in the most cancerous shit from their NES days.
>>139866 >Recent persona I don't think you are in touch with recent trends.
Okay, got enough done for me to at least release the second WIP of the supplement: now with the actual abilities and weaknesses the Chainwide threat has. I probably will need to go through and add more later, but I'm satisfied with both for now. All that remains is how to permanently defeat the stalker for those who want to do that and maybe a small note section for any clarification, and it should be ready. Again, feedback is welcome, including if you have ideas for other abilities/weakness category items you think would be good.
>>139865 >It’s also an MMO. What the fuck?
My college blocks the bunker, can someone ask Gene if we can combine the cheat abilities from Generic Isekai with previously obtained cheat abilities from other jumps? I got a combo I wanna do.
>>139872 >college blocks the bunker Can't he just use his phone?
>>139872 >My college blocks the bunker Are you lost anon
>>139868 Seems good so far. Though I have to wonder if the stalker shouldn't be allowed to go after in-setting dimensional travelers if you take that specific motive for why it's hunting you. It would fit after all.
>>139860 People usually blame Nintendo for the Ubisoft tier polish of the resent games, but that doesn't make sense. Every other big Nintendo game is crispy clean of bugs.
How did people in communist countries figure out they were living in a horrible nightmare scape? You might think it's obvious but if you have no outside frame of reference you'd just think that's what life is
>>139878 Bread prices rising in real time.
>>139878 Mental dissonance takes a toll on the mind. Eventually you cannot hold opposing opinions such as the party is saying everything is good and life is saying everything is bad.
>>139878 Dunno how it was in other countries but in the DDR you could just read the letters of your family living in the West, take a look at West Berlin over the wall or take a look at your daily struggles (Lines for everything and constant shortages).
>>139876 I mean, it most likely would start going after in-setting dimensional travellers as well, especially if you take An Amicable Offer, so it isn't trying to kill you. Of course, outside of An Amicable Offer scenarios, it becomes more laser-focused on you, but you should always expect the stalker to act within its motive, even when it isn't actively attacking you. Though it likely would only go for opportunistic attacks on people it would normally target until it's done with you.
>>139878 There hasn't been a communist country that has been able to truly implement equality, and any time people can perceive inequality, the problems become apparent. And to be fair this isn't just a communist problem, it's just that some communists try to pitch the line that everything is fair and equal.
>>139869 Monolithsoft did acrobatics when it came to making games that ran well so that Game Freak could falter & stumble with the excuses it pulled out of their asses (yes this is a real pic found within the leaks, they’re hoping to pull something like this for the Galar game). >>139878 People disappearing for a long time/never coming back, followed by officials giving no news or incredibly vague reasons when asked. Your local groceries getting worse in quality/quantity. Erratic limited handouts. Makes it easy to tip off that something is incredibly wrong despite regular broadcasts of “the country is strong & people are healthy/happy”
>>139878 They know, but if communism has infected a place so thoroughly, its reached that stage where everyone who could meaningfully resist is either complicit, dead, exiled, or so beat down they don't have any fight left in them.
>>139878 Get mindbroken after visiting a fully stocked grocery store.
>>139877 I know, right? Like Nintendo can be blamed for a lot of bullshit, but Mario and their other headliners normally get presented clean as fuck.
>>139887 Honestly, the general rule with Nintendo is that their Game-making division is generally pretty solid, their Console-making division does good but questionable things, and their Corporate and Legal side are literally the devil.
>>139888 Yeah that all tracks, and is why I wish Pokemon was just eaten up by Nintendo. The corpo side doesn't get better or worse but the games would surely improve.
>>139878 A combination of propaganda, fearmongering, ideological indoctrination, and isolationism. It goes in stages: >It's fine because I've never known anything else. >It's fine because there are other things but they're terrifying and filled with unknown dangers. >It's fine because my life is worse compared to others but I'm more intrinsically virtuous than they are for living it. >It's fine because if I ever admitted it wasn't I'd have to change. >It's not fine but it's mine and I'm proud of what I am. >It's not fine but I'm still here and that's enough. >It's not fine and things need to change but I don't want to be the one to change it. And so on and so forth until eventually you hit the point of no return. And that's generally when Communism starts exploding.
I don't think I can accumulate the necessary experience to evolve into a Grandle by just grinding my skills in Prahmix's temple, at least not in anything resembling a timely manner. I might need to dona murder or several as that is by far the fastest way to grind exp.
>>139891 do a* murder
>>139306 Vampire illithids are feral degenerates made from tadpoling a vampire, not that a jumper couldn't become a proper merger of the two with their own hax. There's some goofy old Ravenloft adventure where an illithid plotted to become a vampire illithid with its intellect intact by transplanting its mind into a tadpole.
>>139886 That has got to be one of my favorite moments of history, just in how genuine it is. And honestly, kudo to Yeltzin for not only making that decision to go off script and check out a grocery store, but to have the wherewithal to realize "Oh shit, the USSR is fucked. I need to do something."
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 jump has been finished. Any feedback is welcomed.
Midnight Walk Jump is done. Guess I'll just sit on it until Halloween.
>>139896 I really need to check my calendar more often. For some reason I assumed Halloween was a lot closer than it is.
More work done on the Ocean Game. I am rapidly becoming aware this thing will in no way be done before Halloween, but it has been very fun. Added some detail on how you can frame the Ocean Game for a 'normal' chain and did the first half of the Guide section.
Right i'm planning on pulling a NuBee where I try to fluff an entire series of characters my jumper will deal with in a jump like he did with his MHA class though in this case i'm going to be putting together a Kengan Ashura/Early Baki/Convict Colosseum style male only underground martial arts tournament so I need to come up with 31 other contestants for this tournament with their own martial arts, gimmicks and surrounding members of the company/business they're going to be representing. So I just came here to ask for any ideas of images for fighters, martial arts, company's and other surrounding characters to make up the roster of this jump. Thanks in advance and try to keep supernatural stuff to a minimum please.
>>139878 The moment easy access to other countries is allowed. That's why North Korea has lasted so long, it's nearly impossible to get a genuine view of how fucked everything is. Sure it's suffering, but it's not too different from the suffering their peasant ancestors went through. A lot of people in the west and in capitalist countries just can't appreciate how dire the circumstances were for their ancestors who held the same social position, if they did, and had no idea what the alternative looked like, it would be near impossible to believe anything similar could exist.
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>>139899 Kenichi is an obvious pick.
>>139894 >Implying he wasn't desperately trying to escape the shitstorm that picture existing among his populace would cause preemptively
>>139899 How much are you planning to lean into the underground/Fight Club vibe in terms of less than legal dealings? There's plenty of off the books/black market/borderline war crime types of stuff you could pull from for a tournament like that if they're not so concerned with having a public facing image for any part of their financial backing.
>>139872 >>139903 Not really sure what they mean by "combine". Like, unless you have some option from elsewhere that lets you combine powers (or take the combo in the System section that lets you combine skills and justify your cheat as such a skill) then that kind of functionality really wasn't my intention.
>>139899 Here, not sure how helpful they'd be, but these are some of the only martial arts related pictures I have saved. Before you ask, yes that is zoomer Azula, no I didn't realize I had that saved until now.
>>139899 If it's all male you need to have a twink who can somehow hit way harder than his frame should allow.
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>>139899 >>139901 Throwing in all of Ryozanpaku too since you asked for companies/organizations.
>>139901 >>139910 Nah, thanks though. >>139906 After a quick search of other rules from similar tournaments, these will be the basic rules for the tournament though they may get changed later on. >No weight classes or age class. Any kind of figther can enter the matches. >Any combattant can be chosen to fight on behalf of an Association member, even death-row inmates or foreign mercenaries. >The use of weapons by a fighter results in disqualification. >All martial arts moves are accepted. Kicks to the groin, bitting, eye-gouging, ear-shots... Everything goes so long as you don't use a weapon. >No arena boundary limitations. Technically, the fighters can move anywhere in the arena or beyond as long as they keep fighting. >No time limit. Just like antiquity's gladiator fights, the match continues without rest. (This one is tricky, we haven't seen a fight go as long as humanly possible. Would a fighter that runs away all the time be disqualified or would there be leniancy as long as he closes in from time to time?) >Any conflicts between corporations outside of official Kengan matches are strictly forbidden >Any agreements made between CEO's regarding the outcome of a match are to be kept, no matter what. This includes side bets. >No outside interference with the match is allowed. (Anything unnoticed is OK.) >Fight until one side gives up or is unable to continue. >No killing the opponent. The referee tries to prevent any attempt. Killing the opponent after the match has ended results in the banning of the corporation. >>139908 I might use the last two, thanks. >>139909 Yeah I like the idea of that, maybe something like superman syndrome where his frame has a higher density of musculature despite its' smaller size, thanks.
>>139895 Surprised there's no criminal empire item to have something akin to the Foot Clan.
>>139895 >>139896 Thanks for the jumps! Shame I'll have to wait on one until Halloween, but such is life. >>139907 Actually, that reminds me of a question I had: how much would a Cheat that lets you answer or solve any question or mystery or problem be worth if you could beat an enemy representing said question/mystery/problem, with the difficulty of said enemy depending on how difficult the problem is for you? Like say you were taking a Math test and you wanted the answer to a problem, time would freeze and your mind/soul/whatever would be placed in a space where you would confront a personification/representation of said problem. A question that's simple and easy to understand for you would produce a weak, easily defeated opponent, while a more difficult question would produce a more challenging enemy. You can keep having rematches with your opponent over and over again, not having to worry about time since it's effectively frozen while you're using your ability, and you can face your opponent in whatever way you'd like (doesn't have to be physically fighting) but you can only get the answer if you win. In my idea, the problems you face would scale to the question, not to you. If you're trying to solve a mystery by finding the murderer's true identity, the personification of your question will be just as good at chess as they are at tennis, but you might be better at chess than you are in tennis, so you might choose to fight them that way. Actually, on that note, would removing that lower the price, and if so, by how much? Sorry if I'm bugging you with this question, I just thought I'd ask.
>>139912 Great idea, i will add it later.
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>>139697 >far away from major events Have been hit by two Tyranid hive fleets, are in stuck between Macragge and the Necrons. >race doesn't have psyker affinity This is true, although it's more they're dull souls like the Kin. Also because their implied to be an engineered race >jump drives don't enter the warp They do enter the warp, they just skim it. Although their newest drive, the one that coats a ship in antimatter has created some weird form of stable wormholes through this method so it's actaully a pretty cool FTL. >tech base well developed and complete Also true, although some of this is due to salvaging an Imperial starship from their moon early on, trade with the Votann (Tau Ion weapons for example are all from the Votan) >no need to fear black crusades or major demons This is just incorrect, they have less reason to fear random warp summonings or psykers (although given the influx of humans this is slowly changing) but otherwise warp shit would go after them no matter what. The Necrons are the one true best option.
>>139911 >Fighter runs out of the arena and gets in a taxi to the airport >The fight is still technically ongoing I can understand wanting to avoid a ring-out, but there probably should be something in place.
>>139916 Yeah that's a bit I forgot to delete from the post I stole it from.
>>139913 Well, since the difficulty scales with the question, maybe around 300 CP? That seems around the level of Thermae Romae or Thrilling Dreams.
>>139918 >>139913 Or, maybe around 400 CP, since it's so versatile.
>>139918 >>139919 400cp seems like a fair price to me. Actually, being perfectly honest, it's cheaper than I thought it would be, so that's definitely fine by me! Thanks, Gene.
>>139913 Oh, I missed the part about being able to infinitely rematch them. That's definitely 400 CP at minimum. >would removing that lower the price Removing what part exactly?
>>139895 Reading the items, I feel like Time Scepter and Mystical War Staff go together perfectly. They seem like the kind of items a villain would have in some big event, calling himself 'The Master of Space AND Time!' or something like that.
>>139922 That's also fair. And I mean removing the versatility, like you had to choose one specific way to combat all these questions instead of being able to pick and choose between 'facing them in a death match or facing them in a tennis match or facing them in a chess match or-' Would 600cp for the Cheat with the versatility of being able to face them in any way you want, and 400cp without, be fair?
>>139923 Add the Demon Sorcerer in the mix and you have the perfect way to transfer your undead minions to all over the multiverse.
>>139924 I mean, what you're suggesting is actually pretty similar to the Shogi cheat. Going off that precedent, the ability to choose shouldn't add more than 100 CP onto the final price.
>>139925 Neat! I'll be a menace to all of space and time! >>139926 So 500cp without versatility, then? I can work with that, too, just trying to figure out which version works better for my budget.
>>139927 No, I mean 400 CP without the versatility, 500 CP for pretty much all the features you had in mind.
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>>139925 Omatronian are just blue elfs right? Couldn't find the race on the TMNT wiki unless it's a different spelling of Omatran
>>139928 Oh, okay, I misunderstood. Alright then, I'm going to poke and prod at my budget and see what I can afford. All things considered though, 400cp or 500cp is definitely more manageable than I thought it'd be. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, Gene!
>>139930 No prob. These kinds of questions are to be expected from any freeform section of any Jump.
>>139911 Here are some ideas I have: >Supremely arrogant Yujiro/Frieza-coded fighting genius who has never trained or exercised a day in his life, but is so impossibly talented and has such a naturally amazing body he's still a threat >Calm martial-arts master who's proud of his skill in an impractical style that's ill-suited to actual combat, but who flies into a dangerous blind berserker rage whenever someone points out or exploits one of its many weaknesses >Grappling specialist with near superhuman grip strength and a neurological condition that prevents him from feeling pain who just grabs on and doesn't let go no matter what until he chokes you out >Another berserker concept- A guy who's way too nice and kind to be part of an underground fighting ring, but is secretly doping himself with an experimental steroid that has the side-effect of violent, psychotic mood swings - may or may not represent a pharmaceutical company that doesn't care about winning and is actually just trying to advertise their drugs to fighting maniacs >Doctor who lost his medical license for beating the shit out of a patient, specializes in identifying and hitting weak points >Author who represents the company that publishes his work, his understanding of the human condition makes him supremely skilled at getting in people's heads and either predicting their moves or talking them into submission And the ones that are a bit less grounded: >Hypnotist who uses a dance-based style to entrance his opponents and sap their will to fight >Guy who training focuses entirely on delivering a single, impossibly strong punch, but if he doesn't end the match with that one blow he's fucked
>>139677 It's kind of amusing reading through the Exalted Divine Bureaucracy jump and seeing every perk or item finish with "and if you're an Elemental Dragon, you suck shit".
>>139872 After giving it some thoughts, I don't really care. If people want to import cheats (even if I'm still not 100% sure what that means) then go ahead.
>>139932 Not him, but would I be able to use Admin Access to give my system abilities that work like some of the cheats? Installing the Respec mirror would be neat.
>>139934 Natural consequence of the elemental dragons not being an important part of the divine bureaucracy in universe
>>139935 Would the rune that transforms infinite in finite allow you to bypass something working like the life talisman or breaking in one hit an indestructible object?
>>139936 I don't see why not. Admin Access was designed deliberately vague, but basically if something kinda sound like a feature you could see in a video game system, you can eventually figure out how to replicate it here. It'll just take more time and effort the more your additions fuck with physics and the natural order. >>139938 Not sure what "Life Talisman" you're referring to, but breaking unbreakable objects is pretty much exactly the kind of situation that rune is meant for.
So cam you grow LotR Orcs out of the ground or is that just a movie thing?
>>139933 Alot of really good stuff here anon, thanks.
>>139939 Sorry it was the 200 cp item charm of life, one of those things that break to save you from one hit, I was thinking how to defeat a guy with that and the ability to make his items indestructible
>>139940 I think thats a comic thing, pretty sure you need to use weird LoTR magic and elves at the start and can just breed them from norman human women and Orks from there on, might be wrong
>>139943 Ah well shit, being able to grow minions in the dirt would have been neat.
>>139940 Maybe! They either breed like normal beings, can only be made by forcefully corrupted humans/elves, or are a supernaturally created evil hivemind that aren't technically sapient, depending on what canon Tolkein was leaning towards at any given point
>>139944 Don't we have a Planets Vs Zombies jump?
>>139942 Ah. I called them "charms" so I was confused. Probably not that. That charm is explicitly finite. Once it blocks an attack it's either gone for good or needs time to recharge, so it wouldn't really count for the Null Rune.
>>139939 >I don't see why not. Admin Access was designed deliberately vague, but basically if something kinda sound like a feature you could see in a video game system, you can eventually figure out how to replicate it here. It'll just take more time and effort the more your additions fuck with physics and the natural order. That works. I could see it also being a rule that such additions have to be built purely on the system, so a cheat like Gacha Time, Upgrader, or Undiminished could potentially be added (though the latter two would likely be even harder to add then Respawn), but Divine Debt would be a straight no because it relies on the actions of another being.
>>139948 Yes the guy I was thinking has a similar object but he also has the ability to make all of his equipment completely indestructible, so he's almost immortal
>>139947 Gemcraft has this, it's not exactly what you were wanting but it might fit. Water the Earth:​ -200cp (free Forgotten Aspirants) By scattering drops of your blood upon the earth and investing your mana you may give rise to monstrous servants. You may command them as you see fit across any distance, see through their eyes, and treat them as you wish for they are not truly alive. You are only limited by your levels of health and mana and the processing constraints of your mind. For the moment you may give rise to Swarmlings, Reavers, and Giants, but in the future who knows what you could create. Do be mindful though that the stronger the creature the greater its cost, and some will demand more than blood and mana. After their creation you may also invest mana in monsters you have created to increase their power, but as with gems the cost quickly becomes prohibitive. Monsters you create will not resist your commands, but they are not strictly loyal as they do not have much of a mind of their own. Should your control over them falter they will likely revert to a primal state. If you learn to create more intelligent monsters they will likely follow you as long as you remain stronger than them, but what they would do when not under your control will be hard to predict.
>>139951 I'm not the anon that was asking about Orcs >>139944 >>139951
>>139951 That's pretty neat, I'll have to learn about Gemcraft.
>>139949 Pretty much. The system can't fundamentally change the nature of the world, just alter how someone interacts with it. >>139950 I see. Then yeah, you'd be able to nullify the destructibility, which would then nullify his ability to use the Life Charm infinitely.
>>139566 early what?
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>>139953 It's an old tower defense game, it's also one that scales to the point that it can crash modern day systems through the sheer exponents of damage/health for the towers or monsters you need to kill. I'm pretty sure it can get to the point where you'd be getting hit by waves of godlike monsters and killing them all
>>139955 Pretty sure it's hardcore Warcraft
>>139955 Might be Warframe?
>>139621 why the fuck did they make a new supplement for this?
>>139895 Sentronian's are just Great Value kyrptonians right? Is there anything about them that's different that's worth mentioning? Like not needing sunlight / not having a crippling weakness to some random mineral?
>>139961 And now I'm tempted to do a femcolt MLP Unicorn chain
>>139962 >Silver Sentry possesses super strength, invulnerability, the ability to fly, super breath, super hearing, and super vision, which allows him to either see telescopically into the distance or emit energy and x-ray beams. Additionally, Sentry is able to summon or create a shield and a lance. >Silver Sentry's only serious weaknesses are his susceptibility to magic and mind manipulation, as well as his insatiable appetite for chocolate chip cookies as shown in The Christmas Aliens.
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>>139963 Don't let your memes be dreams.
>>139961 Hungry and a bit dazed from lack of medication, but I'm about to fix grits for dinner and banana pudding for desert so my excitement is exponentially greater than my immediate discomfort.
>>139961 Ive been on your side all these years but if you gonna try and make me attracted to ponies we gonna have a problem. Even if I did watch the r34 rainbow dash vid where she whores herself out when it was uploaded to youtube. Also what is error parsing response?
>>139810 >TPC is either terminally retarded or got baited by the AI hypetrain
>>139944 Saibamen still exist.
>>139944 That's how they make more Grineer in Warframe
>>139966 Hope you feel better soon. Now tell me, how long does it take to cook grits? >>139967 No idea what error parsing response is. I can tell you this though: EVERY hole's a goal. On that note, time to once again attempt to earn my Monster Fucker License. Let's see if this week is the week I get lucky. 1d100 = 69
>>139961 What are your favorite furry jumps?
>>139971 >69 YOU GOT IT, CRIT SUCCESS!!!!
>>139969 Dropping a Xenoverse Saibaman onto Freeza would be a funny way to fuck up the timeline.
>>139961 Im pretty sure my boss is trying to make me quit my job. Jokes on him. I have a little girl and a baby boy on the way. I physically cannot afford to not have my job which means I will work myself till the stress gets me and my family gets to enjoy the life insurance.
>>139974 Frieza dying to a Saibaman would probably worse than hell to him.
>>139975 Note down the dates and times for anything he does that's unreasonable and prepare an HR report. Either he stops, or he gets fucked by HR. Don't let yourself get hoed.
>>139971 Depends on the type of grits.
>>139931 Noticed a typo, in the Government Agent perkline it states "Discounts for Ninja" rather than "Dicounts for Government Agent"
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>>139971 I dunno about you guys, but I'm calling that a fucking critical. >>139972 Hard to say off the top of my head. Though I very often include Monster Girl Encyclopedia as jump 69 of my chains. >>139973 Hell yeah.
>>139971 >69 You get your license, but you have to fuck a monster immediately. I'm sorry, Nyanko, I know this is a terrible burden I'm placing on you, but rules are rules.
>>139895 I was going to say something about it being strange there's no reporter origin to represent April but then I got down to the companions section and discovered this version of April is a computer programmer and has nothing to do with journalism which is honestly kind of baffling to me that they would change such an inherent facet of the original character (to say nothing of the change in appearance).
>>139962 They have no weaknesses.
>>139971 >Now tell me, how long does it take to cook grits? I don't usually watch the time. I boil the water, mix the stuff in, and alternate between stirring and letting it steam until the consistency feels right.
>>139956 I'm not usually one to power scale but isn't that enough power to crack a planet or power it for years?
>>139977 Im in a right to work state man, they can basically fuck me over as much as they want as long as they arent actively and provably breaking any laws. And JUST demoting me for no reason, cutting my pay, then moving me to all night shift work with no warning isnt breaking any laws.
>>139983 Is this Silver Sentry comparable to DCAU Superman? I'm trying to get a rough ballpark of how capable the race is.
Also now whats a good fantasy jump to build a town in? I need a place where I can buy a large plot of land for my tower that can act as the center of my town.
>>139982 I'm going to be honest with you. I wouldn't have made a reporter origin even if she was one. What perks do you even create to a reporter perk tree?
>>139987 He is weaker.
>>139986 Jesus Christ, my condolences bro. Hopefully you can find something better soon.
>>139895 Nice. Thanks for the jump. >Demon Sorcerer Damnit. I'm tempted to take this as it is just so good. Though with that Acolyte Amulet and Spirit Dragon perk I could probably get the teaching of the Ninja Tribunal to learn their secrets. Ninja godhood does sound better than being a mere demon. >April Right. I forgot the one here isn't the jumpsuit wearing version.
>>139992 I knew that's where you were going with that, but my southern blood couldn't resist giving a sincere answer anyway.
>>139980 >Hell yeah. Because of the crit every "she looks like she fucks human men" furry waifu has heard and are now on their way to your location, run or stay they will find you and your hips will be broken.
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>>139995 I embrace my fate. Paradise/hell awaits.
>>139961 Tired, honestly. Wanna make a jump for something but it is way too early to do so.
>>139992 I will take nearly an hour making proper grits
>>139961 I want to build PC for AI image/video generation and I cry at prices. >>139971 I will roll as well. Why I should not do it? 1d100 = 2
>>139999 This is why
>>139999 Well, you WEREN'T barred from ever taking the test again. That's the good news. You can still try again. Next week.
>>139988 other than most Isekai, how about Pathfinder?
>>139994 What's the inspiration for the speedrunner perk
>>139895 You might want to say there's some limit to how powerful the shit you make with the Kirby Pen is. >Free Pepperoni Pizza Would saying mine has cheese stuffed crust be too OP? Fun Jump by the way. I'll see about working on a build soonish.
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>>139899 > Jacket & Biker, 50 Blessings > Kira & Dio expys, Brothers, probably serial killers > Sato expy, easygoing psychopath with congenital pain insensitivity & associated flunkies > Jack expy, medical miracle who's going to die of a heart attack within 5 years tops, pit crew of doctors nervously taking measurements between fights
>>139893 Except the anon was answering what weird dragon to become. So that would be a vampire ilithid dragon. Every better than normal vampire ilithid.
>>139985 No, it's vastly more. 10x10^100 is a Googol, one of the largest scientific notations there is. Using the smaller base damage of e230 you're looking at 3×10^131 googols (ignoring the .013 even though it's a fucking huge number just given the scale of the notation) of damage, then times that by 48, every second. For reference to overcome the gravitaitonal binding force for our galaxy, and thus completely unbind all matter you'd need 1.5 x 10^55 joules. For reference a supernova is 1x10^44. Presuming the value of 'damage' in this game had a base value of 1 joule per point of damage, which it probably wouldn't given an average human punch is 70-100 joules and these towers are being used to kill waves of monsters. Then you're looking at doing 3x10^230 joules of energy (multiplied by 48) every second with a single tower setup. Using google and asking how much energy to destroy the universe gets you the following. >One way to calculate it is by adding up the mass-energy of all the particles, which is approximately 10^60 Joules. Another estimate, focusing on the gravitational binding energy of the entire universe, is around 10^70 Joules, or even higher depending on what "destroy" means, with other sources suggesting figures as high as 10^193 Joules Given how magnitudes work you're looking at being able to wipe out entire multiverses
>>139988 Pathfinder is a pretty good one
>>139961 Just made some plum preserves and have some green onions dehydrating
>>140011 You should make some pickled red onion while you're doing it. That shit is great and goes well with everything, even on its own as a snack.
Looking at Generic Isekai's other cheat skills, I was for some reason reminded about various Fudge systems, which is wierd because that is usually a Xianxia cheat, not a Isekai cheat. I mean, any fudge system is going to be 2000cp by their nature regardless, but still. >>139971 I have been seeing everyone else roll for this, so why not? Maybe I'll get lucky the first time I try? 1d100 = 29
>>140009 Don't think so, Gauntlets are usually designed without discounts and just have all the perks be at what would have been a discounted price point. Some are different but they normally have pretty low costs as a default
>>140013 Nope, not fucking monsters anytime soon.
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>>139968 the leaks are STILL going on, yeah it really does look like they’re going in with trying to merge an open world/procedurally generated experience including the “seed” pokemon you’re given which also has procedurally generated evolutions. Note that this is all future plans being leaked & could still change >>139961 I’m still recovering from 5 days of back to back overtime shifts. Watched the Karas anime OVA as a reference for how my time in that setting would go having my first “companion” by my side in one chain, getting through the bog that is making builds for the modern-era half of my Castlevaina chain & I found out that Betsumon has no real mega form in their digimon line (they would have gone well with ExTyrannomon).
>>140008 That's sick, if you get a couple of those gems as power sources you'll be set for life and they make great turret defenses for your properties. Thanks anon
>>140012 I'll think about it he next time I go shopping. We normally don't have red onions though since my father doesn't care for them. Hell, he won't even eat normal white or yellow onions unless they're totally caramelized. Though I'm not in any place to judge. I hate tomatoes, which is annoying since like 50-75% of the stuff we grow in the garden are the heirloom tomato breeds my mom is obsessed with, none of which i like At least my Poblano peppers came out nice
>>140016 Honestly, the more I hear of the leaks, the more I am convinced that it likely is just dumb concept stuff being thrown at a board. Then again, Game Freak has done other stupid stuff in the past, but we will see what happens.
>>139998 >>139994 That better be yellow grits, it cooks great
>>140013 what is a fudge system?
>>140017 You're forgetting the more important part of this. The monsters also scale to this point and come in waves.
>>140022 Do I have to bring the monsters along? Can't I just keep my turrets away?
>>140023 I was more referring to the fact the Gemcraft jump offers the ability to create the monsters as well as the gems themselves so you'd have minions at that level of power as well as defensive/supportive gems
>>140024 >I was more referring to the fact the Gemcraft jump offers the ability to create the monsters as well as the gems themselves so you'd have minions at that level of power as well as defensive/supportive gems Oh, that's broken as hell. Imagine making a grunt and just sending one towards someone like khorne or something, Can you choose their looks?
>>139961 I have to work and it sucks and my brother is upset that no one can make his wedding as he just announced it for a day everyone is working, at the end of the year when no one has any more time they can take off work.
>>139989 100cp appearance perk, because April 200cp good at showing up / being nearby when interesting stuff happens 400 good investigative journalist skills, actually know how to get the scoop and just as importantly how to write articles to get the info across clearly to the common man in an engaging and informative way 600 plot armor, nigh on guarantee that if you get stuck in a sticky situation a hero or two will show up to rescue you or provide you with the distraction you need to escape, maybe pair it with your enemies wanting to capture you for use as a hostage rather than just killing you outright 100cp item mic and recorder that always has good audio and visual quality 200cp item news van, self maintaining, always fueled up, never seems to get stuck in traffic, always seems to manage to get you where you need to go just in time to get the scoop 400cp item contacts list, you know a guy who knows a guy and as a result you're constantly getting fed rumors on upcoming stuff and interesting events, judicious use allows you to nearly always be the first one to get the story if you pursue the leads. 600cp item your own news network / company, largely manages itself and if you put in the work yourself, either as a manager or reporter, it'll see record breaking engagement and profits.
>>140025 I presume so, the perk implies it >>139951, although you'd really want some other form of creation loyalty perk alongside this
>>140025 >Can you choose their looks? nta but there's a perk in the D&D Blood & Magic jump that lets you customize the appearance of your minions iirc, as long as said appearance is "hot and scantily clad".
>>140019 It is sad to see the death and fumble of such a money making system that even first year finance students could have figured out. But Nintendo really is the evil greedy monster.
>>140021 Basically, you get a few points to do basically anything, such as creating monsters, giving people superpowers, or other effects. If people think what you did was real, which normally don't believe in that sort of thing, then you get points to further do more shit, which lets you do bigger things, and so one and so forth. There is also sometimes a caveat that the more skeptical someone normally is the more points you get for 'tricking' them, because we need to show smarter people getting faceslapped. Basically lets you do anything as long as a) someone somewhere is skeptical that a thing could happen, and b) you can get a large enough audience to constantly escalate. Some works that include that you can create beings which also count for getting Fudge points, which also means the power is self-reinforcing. Basically, it's the ultimate system for lazy worldbuilders who want to give their protagonist reality-warping powers without actually making them a reality warper.
>>140029 It's funny that giant lava monsters would fit the wording of this perk and not the spirit, while also being within the spirit of the jump as I presume it's based on some form of demon/warlock content
>>140027 Good start. Now keep going and make a 80s TMNT Jump,
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Is there any reason to NOT jump Mage the Ascension as a Marauder with the delusion of being the only human male in a world full of monster girls?
>>140019 I don’t really have hope considering that they really can’t optimize for shit these days & it’s genuinely pissing me off. Even with ZA, whose beta originally had 3D renders of the building sides instead of flat models turns out to have the entire city it takes place in as ONE SINGULAR MODEL in the final result. No chunks & a fuck ton of polygons. Essentially S/V’s render of the globe situation all over again. And the development budget for it was way lower that expected $13 mill = 2 billion yen. It’s cheap.
>>140027 Great ideas!
>>140032 It's based on a real time strategy game set in the forgotten realms of D&D, specifically in The Utter East, a land so insignificant that it basically got referred to last back in iirc AD&D and then not once since. Also while demons do show up the game itself isn't about them, basically Bloodforges (minor artifacts) can be used to create basalt golems which can themselves generate mana, mana can be used to create more basalt golems and to also transform those golems into other forms depending on what sort of temples you've got access to. The most basic unit for the human faction is just the equivalent of a level 1 fighter, not unlike how the basic undead temple unit is just a skeleton. The perk itself is a reference to how in the old days of AD&D the artists didn't worry about censorship and so women, especially monster women, were often portrayed topless and everyone was some flavor of hot supermodel in a chainmail bikini or a muscular Conan type either in barbarian leather or full plate.
>>139954 >Pretty much. The system can't fundamentally change the nature of the world, just alter how someone interacts with it. Sounds about right. Since cheats cost twice as much as other abilities, I’m running with the idea that this also applies to developing a system cheat, so Respec would be as hard to develop as the highest level of Fork Branch. Is the 400 version of Merge Branch something that could be developed with Admin Access?
>>140033 I don't actually particularly like the TMNT setting so I'll pass on that. I just know enough from watching it as a kid that coming up with something for April wasn't too hard.
>>140036 What's the Alien Artifact based on? Also the "Transcendental Lay" item should probably be "Lathe"
>>140040 In the first season, Shredder unearths a Utrom android. Baxter Stockman uses it to extract scientific advancements.
>>140034 You literally aren't a functioning or even partially functioning person and everyone with two braincells will (rightfully) try to kill you because you're a walking mass of Quiet and because you'll be associated with such 'lovely' groups such as the Umbral Underground and Chaioth ha-Quadesh, who kill hilarious numbers of people because they're delusional husks of living things. Also no chance of Archmastery for you.
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>>140034 All the other supernatural beings who can resist would get really pissed everytime you pass by. It'd still be worth it, but that is a reason.
>>140042 None of that matters if you by the Marauder perk in jump.
>>140041 Ah so it's something that easily stolen early in the jump, cheers was debating buying that or the Lathe but that's pretty much sold me on the Lathe
>>139970 Ghouls were always a terrible idea, Vay Hek. Your budget should be taken away and given to Tyl Regor, his Tubemen are fucking busted.
>>139961 Procrastinating after doing some work on the Ocean Game. Have some assignments to work on too for later submission, so I'll probably be doing that later.
>ship disguise in luxury liner can change the internals of a ship, like the appliances, not just the exterior I wonder if I use this on Ramen Cart from Generic Isekai if it would let me change the ingredients/setup of the cart. So I can change it to an ice cream cart or something.
>>140034 If you want to be a mage with a spaceship diving through hell
>>140045 I personally like the artifact for its value post-jump. Always progressing your scientific knowledge is something quite valuable.
>>140002 >>140010 Guess Im going to pathfinder then. Thanks all.
>>140028 >>140029 Thank you anons, but now that I think of it, I can use Oddity Maker
>>139895 Can the Spirit Forge only make new items or can it be used to improve existing ones? And when it speaks of elemental affinity can we have it be light to go along with its ability to drive away darkness?
>>139980 Post some monsters you be fuckin' now that you got your license.
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What version of the shredder would last the longest before trying to kill me if I keep calling him Colonel Schrader?
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This dancing slime girl is living rent free in my brain. Help.
>>140054 You can use it to improve existing ones. And the elements can only be the ones in nature like fire, water, wind, metal or lightning.
>>140051 I agree in principal but for the most part jumper will already be stealing shit from the more advanced species in future settings, also the utility of the replicator means it'd probably be used more often. That was my initial thoughts anyway, now I'm more looking at the Ninja perkline while being an Atlantian (the lack of hair bugs me so Lex Luthor mode I go), Atlantian crystal items, Moon Crystal and finally the Time Staff. Even then there'll be a bunch of drawbacks involved
>>140058 Nice. Ah, that's too bad. Might want to add that in the jump then. Lightning is close enough for my needs I suppose.
>>140056 80’s version will find himself surviving through contrived luck until he truly gets serious enough to kill, getting called silly names like that is mere banter to him. 03’& 12’ will be the quickest to get straight to killing. I can’t remember about the Mirage comics version & I don’t care about Rise.
>>140057 >>140061 What is she from?
>>140065 She's some artist's OC.
>>140057 If I gotta deal with a clumsy robot maid drawn with ps1 graphics living in my head, you gotta deal with a weird slimegirl. Although she's honestly too firm to be a slime? I'd say she's a gel
>>140065 Pretty sure she's just an artist's OC. And possibly the spiritual successor to an otherwise unrelated rogue from a comic published by an old porn site.
>>140057 is that the dance from sym-bionic titan?
>>140069 I have no idea. It was posted a thread or two ago and I haven't been able to get it out of my head since.
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Anyone got suggestions for warehouse attachments for storing spaceships, preferably one that grows so you can keep adding ships. Want to grab one early chain, was going to use one of the Bay supplements but they don't really suit my needs. I offer starships in payment, thanks in advance
>>140071 R-Type has one
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>>140071 I think UC gundam and one of Kotoranon's star wars jumps may have one for your needs.
>>140067 Huh. Apparently youtube stopped recommending me the dude's videos, and he was, in fact, making a videogame all along. Neat https://www.youtube.com/@MikeMotion83/videos
>>140072 That's not a bad one for purchased or earned ships, pity it doesn't let you store stuff you steal or claim. The duplicate temporary ship feature is also pretty nice >>140073 I'll have a look at Gundam, although yea I vaguely remember one from Star Wars Hangar one and it's probably what I'll go with in the end.
>>140070 Signal to consume less porn.
>>140076 Don't ask him to commit suicide.
>>140075 >That's not a bad one for purchased or earned ships, pity it doesn't let you store stuff you steal or claim. The duplicate temporary ship feature is also pretty nice >By default it’ll house every ship purchased (or earned through Scenarios) in this Jump and one copy of each of them, while for 300 CP this will extend to those purchased/earned from other Jumps as well >purchased/earned I'd say successfully stealing a spaceship should definitely count as earning one
>>139895 With what speciality DaVinci would be the fastest to make cancer thing of the past? Bioengeneering? Or that is a thing that every specialty could solve fast enough?
>>140076 But if I close the several dozen porn tabs that I have opened up at once, surely I shall shrivel up and die!
>>140080 Close one everytime you remember the dancing slime girl.
>>140078 I presumed it was just a shorthand of the earlier "earned through scenarios" rather than other methods
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>>140080 Nyanko, why have you never mentioned that you are a Sailor Moon villain?
>>140079 Biology, genetics, cyberware, bioengineering, medicine, all of them could cure cancer, but the fastest would be genetics since you want to cure cancer and not make new humans immune to them.
>>140084 did you mean... wouldn't be genetics?
>>140082 It probably IS, but the idea of being able to steal spaceships and keep them forever appeals to me and is a reasonable way you can read that line
>>140083 Because I'd barely qualify as a villain. I'm a mook at best.
>>140056 I dont know but he looks fucking awesome
>>140085 Genetics would be fastest. Make a mrna vacine for your cancer.
>>140079 Medical Genetic, Molecular Genetics or Oncogenetics. Do keep in mind that not all forms of cancer are equal.
>>140090 Targeted nanorobotics would probably be faster
>>140092 It is easier to make a vaccine than it is to make nanotechnology work inside the human body. But is a cartoon universe so the science probably doesn't have to care about these problems.
>>139743 What? No, what the hell are you talking about? As a matter of fact there is earlier access for building a monster girl dimension in nWoD than oWoD (The Practice of Entities (7 dots) for the monstergirls and the Practice of Dominions (8 dots) for the dimension) where you probably have to colonise an existing dimension before gitting gud enough.
>>140093 I mean the guy the perk is based off is a brain in a jar, wouldn've thought things would tend more towards metal tech being easier than biological stuff in TMNT given the many failures that come about from the mutation stuff and everything else involved.
>>140092 mRNA vaccines against cancer are closer to what's possible with current tech levels than nanotechnology.
>>140097 >mRNA vaccines against cancer are closer to what's possible with current tech levels than nanotechnology. There's apparently vaccines for allergies now too.
>>140098 Including lactose intolerance.
>>140097 Japan is working on something to retrigger the replacement teeth growth and invalidate the dental industry
I may be dumb. Is there any reason I couldnt make angels as a god from the magicians instead of splurging on that expensive angel making perk from the one mtg jump?
>>140099 Lactose intolerance can eventually be cured just by drinking enough milk and putting up with the problems for a long time.
>>140100 Surprised that guy hasn't mysteriously disappeared
>>140101 Considering Umber made creatures that grant wishes you could easily make an angel.
>>140102 No, that can legitimately make it worse.
>>140103 >Surprised that guy hasn't mysteriously disappeared YET.
Going to sleep. Good night guys.
>>139750 Eh not really, you can make a new pocket dimension easily enough by going and creating your own horizon realm but it needs to be away from earth. Iirc there was even a few mages that did just that as part of their pathways.
>>140103 The dental industry is thankfully less far reaching than the pharmaceutical industries
>>140107 Good night.
>>140099 Lactose intolerance isn't that hard to fix from a molecular biological perspective since all humans can digest it as infants and most just lose it upon growing up.
>>140095 Nta but Im kinda tempted to try and learn the special spirit magic that allows you to metaphysocally Name things but I honestly have no fucking clue how to do it. I think it was called ogdu or something. Anyway it sounded really fucking cool to me for some reason.
>>140111 Lactose Intolerance is caused by the body being unable to process lactose and isn't that easy to fix. It's going to be fixed soon, of course. There's a youtube video of a dude literally inventing his own gene therapy to fix his own lactose intolerance and china's just managed a cure for diabetes
>>140103 Dentist will still have a job afterwards since people still won't be able to take of their teeth and lesser issues like caries and misaligned teeth will continue to plague mankind.
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>>140113 >china's just managed a cure for diabetes
>>140090 that seems like more virology's thing? Genetics would presumably be more focused on reshaping the blueprint rather than doing hotfixes for the machine as it's running (see: medicine, bioengineering...). So genetics is probably the field most likely to get you designer babies that don't get cancer but be unable to cure people who currently have it
>>140115 It supa good, just use ancient chinese medicine, one white rhino horn all you need
>>140098 nta, but my mother is doing that for her pollen allergy. She basically goes to the doctor every week and gets exposed to some minor dose of the pollen and depending on how she reacts to it they either maintain the does or increase it. She's been doing that for like a year now, and while the allergy is not gone she's doing a lot better now going outside.
>>140109 You get a chain but you're stuck as a dentist for the whole thing.
>>140113 >There's a youtube video of a dude literally inventing his own gene therapy to fix his own lactose intolerance If you mean Thought emporium he did do it but unfortunately it only lasted like a few months. But damn good on him for saving a few on lactase pills in the meantime.
From Low to High, how do the spaceships of various settings rank up? >Star Wars >Star Trek >Halo >Mass Effect >Warhammer 40k >Exalted Heaven's Reach >Evil Lord of the Intergalactic Empire >Culture
>>140100 This seems cool but not strictly necessary.
Whats the best way to disseminate technology to Earth as an ayyylmao? >>140118 That's what I did for a few years but it was a disgusting cocktail of allergies injected in both arms, everything from dogs to cats to grass and trees.
>>140120 It lasted a few months AND permanently reduced the symptoms from eating lactose, to the point where he could actually tolerate eating it without needing medicine
>>140038 I'd lean towards no, since that's way more meta than anything else in that section. Like, I guess there's some wiggle room depending on how you houserule Perks working in your chain, but I feel like giving the okay on that would just be a slippery slope that would require me to make numerous more rulings on what ways you can and can't use the system to fuck with fiat-backed stuff.
>>140116 Oncogenetics would be the field for cancer research, although a permanent solution would likely require a broader field.
>>140121 Exalted > anything else
>>140123 >That's what I did for a few years but it was a disgusting cocktail of allergies injected in both arms, everything from dogs to cats to grass and trees. oh that sounds nasty. My mom has plenty of allergies as well, but she's only doing it for her strongest allergy and even just that bothers her a decent amount on the days she gets the shots.
>>140121 Hard to say. Like Exalted Heaven's Reach ships are slower than most cars, but can hace some major firepower. So it depends on what you want.
>>140128 It helped after awhile at least.
>>140128 >>140123 Why do anons have cringe moms
>>140121 I think Mass Effect is at the bottom ant the Culture at the top, Heaven's Reach and 40K might be toward the upper end too if you focus on Necron Tech, DAOT tech, and Exalted super weapons like the Stellar Intelligences or Unconquered Sun respectively but Heaven's Reach would be fairly low without the latter.
>>140123 >disseminate technology to Earth Go to them openly, and not by stealth. What are they going to do, kill you? You're a sufficiently advanced alien, and therefore indistinguishable from a god. How can they kill a god?
>>140115 To be fair, the US has been doing clinical trials on a stimcell cure for Type-1 Diabetes that's been looking pretty good too. 10 out of 12 people not needing insulin anymore
>>140121 Culture ~= Exalted > Halo (assuming e.g. Forerunners) > Warhammer 40k = Evil Lord > Star Wars ~= Star Trek > Mass Effect >>140123 anal prob surprise
>>140115 It's a one person success achieved by injecting stem cells converted from her fat cells. Still needs around a year or two to see if its permanent but for now it last for at least two months.
>>140129 >slower than most cars huh? that would even make slower than the modern shuttles we have now. Did the writers not think things through?
>>140121 Honestly I got a custom one from starwars and imported it to everything else I could. Starwars just has a really solid base for a ship plus you can import to arrowverse to make it a timeship.
>>140123 Openly just landing on random governments turfs and telling them you'll orbitally nuke the entire planet if they don't disseminate tech. Also you can pull the X-Files psyop of having the leaders give up all their family members for immortality(that doesn't actually work but seems like it does) as a further deterrent.
>>140138 This is generally the result of the writers being stupid, probably best to ignore it.
>>140138 They think 70 mph is ftl fighter jet speed what do you think?
>>140125 Fair enough, I figured that’d be the case. I’ll have to drop Uncapper then, but maybe I can add that to the system in some way. Have a build. >Species: Elf (Free) >Job – D Tier: Mage (100) >Translation: Literate (Free) >Experience: Copper (Free) >Beauty Standards (100) >Nobility: Monarch (200) >Plot Bound (100) >Absolute Magic Affinity (300) >Historical Unpleasantries (Free) >Get with the System (200) >Interface (Free) >Level Up: Active (Free) >Skill Up: Dynamic (100) >Merge Branch (200) >Appraisal: Apprentice (Free) >Admin Access (1000) >Starting Gear: Rare (Free) >Personal Assistant (Free) >Override (100) >[Insert Obnoxiously Verbose Title Here] (Free) >Territory (100) >Size: Kingdom (Free) >Resources: Average (Free) >Population: Average (Free) >WIP (300) >Death Flags (+200) >Two Steps Back (+200) >Criminal Incompetence (+200) >Colliding Worlds (+300) >Underleveled (+300) I’m an elf queen with boundless potential for magic and a system to help me out. Now if only I could get out of this dungeon. On top of that, this world has collided with another, and only one of them can survive. Some other nation summoned a hero to help with the process, but it seems they’re that most dangerous of combinations: Energetic and stupid.
>>140129 It's even worse. The sheer disparity in Heaven's Reach ships range from "cheap knockoff of the Millennium Falcon" to "mothership with a planet-destroying weapon the system refuses to stat" to "a fucking expy of the Unconquered Sun"
>>140126 > Oncogenetics would be the field for cancer research honestly I think that ironically might not actually be a good solution compared to the other specialties. the immune response has been the bottleneck since the 2000s so even if you design the correct set of code to insert you're going to really struggle to get it in there and delivered to all the cells in the body without killing every other person who takes it
>>140136 What about Halo without Forerunners? I think Covenant ships are somewhere in the neighborhood of Star Wars ISDs...? >>140145 >vanilla Exalted has the Daystar
>>140145 tbf there seemed to be a lot of fucking Unconquered Suns going around from what I saw of the Raksha and that one dragon
>>140148 probably stars wars. also I'm basically pure guessing I haven't read half these settings
>>140121 >Mass Effect >Halo (UNSC/Covenant) >Star Trek (Also ambiguous as shit jumps around so it could match or potentially beat Disney Star Wars and completely lose to Legends) >Star Wars (depending on which canon this could go lower but legends is considered peer to 40k in terms of damage at least on average) >Warhammer >Halo (Forerunner/Ancient Humans) >Culture I don't know enough about the other settings
>>140148 Halo without Forerunners is probably more pathetic than Mass Effect. If it wasn't for the FTL they'd basically be dead even. Half of the super impressivw shit comes from them, and the other half comes from the Progenitors.
>>140145 Hey Shard, I remember you talking about the Assumption of Leviathan perk from Mage: The Ascension, and how it can lead to a sort of reverse enlightenment apotheosis power up. Could you explain what that actually means and how to do it? I know quite a bit about MtA, but I never looked much into the Nephandi stuff, or the Kuei-jin lore that it ties into.
>>140140 ...just... put it on the internet? what are you talking about bro
>>140095 You know you can just use Spirit right?
>>140141 So ignore it, cool >>140142 >70 mph is fast Lmao, I guess half of the planes on earth are light speed
>>140142 Fighter wouldn't even be able to stay in the air at that speed.
>>140152 >Halo without Forerunners is probably more pathetic than Mass Effect It's really not, UNSC MACs are stronger than Mass Effect mass drivers and they have actual laser weapons. The Covenent could probably cut through most of the setting with a single fleet. The pre-war frigate was a 600 ton slug at 30 km/s (64 kilotons) Reach’s ODPs were 3000 ton slugs at 0.04 c (51 gigatons) Infinity’s MACs are 3000 ton slugs at 0.25 c (2.11 teratons) Alliance dreadnoughts in Mass Effect are stated to be 38 kilotons
>>140153 You know how the kabbalah signifies enlightenment by attainment of climbing the tree of life? There is theorized to be an opposite tree of decension where one instead achieves godhood via corruption amd filth of the soul and body. Though thats just shit I read in an owod thread so its probably bunk. Not shard just wanted to pipe in.
>>140136 >>140151 Are Forerunners actually so far ahead of Necrons that the latter wouldn't get their own bracket? Or would the Necrons have to be more of a pre-fall dynasty to pull ahead?
>>140159 >Not shard just wanted to pipe in. That's cool. I appreciate lore dumps on the matter from anyone.
>>140158 Honestly it makes think why even go to Mass Effect at all?
you ever think about the fact that photoautrophs are basically the only ones doing an honest days work, with everybody else basically deciding to steal for a living?
>>140158 Really need to marry mass effect tech with mac cannons. Really get those numbers up.
>>140160 I mean we don't actually know enough about the Necrons end tier shit to guess however the answer is probably yes. Forerunner build times at the very least outpace them to an unfathomable degree. >>140165 It would lower the damage actually, the eezo would lower the mass of the slug and up the speed, thats literally the problem of why their guns are so shit. >>140163 Their barrier tech is pretty good and eezo has other uses if you're smart enough. Hell the actual shielding system they use would be a better gun than the current magnetic acceleration they use. Given it has to impart an equal and potentially stronger force upon the slugs that are hitting you the projectors in the armour are actually better than the ones used in the guns.
>>140166 Could you not rig it so the mass effect is no longer applied to the projectile after its up to speed?
>>140159 You mean the Qlippoth, the tree of knowledge?
>>140166 Well we do know the necrons could build a machine that can just literally explode a star anywhere in the galaxy at will and also acts as a perfect map.
>>140168 Thats the word, its been a long time but they had some whole diagram back when I browsed the thread showing the tree above and an inverted version in the roots with both being a form of godhood except the root one was less like a normal god and more like a cthulhu mythos "god" entity
>>140121 >Star Wars (Disney) >Mass Effect >Warhammer 40k (Average) >Halo >Warhammer 40k (Maximum Wank) >Star Wars (Legends and Xyston) >Exalted Heaven's Reach >Star Trek >Culture No clue >Evil Lord of the Intergalactic Empire
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Sell me why I would want to be a World of Darkness Mage if I already have magic from elsewhere.
>>140121 I feel like Evil Lord would be above Star Wars but below Warhammer. Mostly because its magic/tech allows for more consistent performance, but not quite as much staying power compared to the stuff a given unit at any scale in Warhammer can get hit by and not be completely incapacitated/destroyed.
>>140167 Actually that is how they work in setting, so it would make the Halo guns stronger, my mistake. Although Mass Effect guns are still shit, a grain of sand going through you would need to hit something really important to actually do noticable damage. >>140169 I mean the Forerunners built a machine that could wipe out all life like an eighth of the galaxy. Sure the Necron one is interesting but it's also something they themselves are wary about using due to cascade effects. Necron time travel tech is certainly better than the Forerunners, I think the only actual time travel tech (outside their temporal stasis/acceleration fields) the Forerunners ever use is their FTL.
>>140174 I feel like using a massive radiation burst is less impressive myself
>>140172 Extremely freeform with literally reality warping power ceiling.
I always underestimate just how damn handy disease and sickness powers against armies.
>>140172 OWoD magic (I'm not using that stupid fucking k at the end) is basically freeform reality warping once you get good enough. If you get REALLY good you could do a passable impression of a creator god. There are stronger options out there even at thee high level, but not many.
>>140143 >On top of that, this world has collided with another, and only one of them can survive Is this a Sekai Oni reference?
>>140172 Magefags will provide endless wank for your powerlevels.
>>140180 Don’t ask me, I’m just stating what the drawback says. >Colliding Worlds - +300 XP >An unseen anomaly has caused this dimension to crash into another. With no warning, rifts will open where these worlds collide, causing strange extradimensional creatures to swarm in and destroy everything in sight. In truth, these beasts are attacking both dimensions. Once they have succeeded in weakening one world enough, it will collapse, sparing the other. Both worlds have summoned their own heroes both to defend themselves and to sabotage the other world to ensure their own survival.
>>140174 >>140169 Wait no I've remembered another, the Forerunner could use something called "Clench" in space battles. I presume it's an abuse of their FTL to jump around in a star system, perform an action, view the result of that then jumping again nearby at a FTL speed and using that data for further attacks but it's so vaguely defined that I couldn't say >Clench: Forerunner strategy that utilised slipspace travel, nonlinear causality, and probability manipulation to conduct interstellar combat operations >>140176 I would have to disagree, considering the Forerunner could destroy stars with their fleets and given the speed of such fleets if they want to destroy a star they could just do it from Slipspace. You've gotta remember while the Necrons are impressive their best shit is always based on exploiting the abilities of a C'tan. The Forerunners used Death Star like ships as mobile mining moons. In a straight up fight the Necrons would lose through sheer attrition. Don't get me wrong the Necrons are certainly a peer power to them, it's just the scales they work at differ as the Forerunners both had longer and didnt decide to go to sleep after doing half the job.
>>140172 I mean its pretty cool for letting you basically decide how the fuck you want your personal magic to work. I think Im gonna go with the idea that I think I am a spirit king and use my word as magical decrees to pull off my magic. As in MY WILL BE DONE. as I say so shall it be. Of course this does mean I will be heavily speccing into spirit magic and a few of the less subtle types of magic. Matter is cool since it lets you fuck with vampires pretty much at will since they are not living and thus count as objects.
>>140178 Against any foe without disease immunity or some kind of way of healing said diseases, be it science or magic, there's a reason why hunger and plagues have killed more soldiers than weapons have.
>>140183 Oh Im not saying forerunners arent good Im just saying point and click to destroy any system you want at will is insane. Dont even get me started on how bullshit their magic is, its magic, they do a ritual, they pump wave their hands, and they alter reality. Its fucking magic. They can even time travel pretty much at will or open portals across space if they want but they need to dump excess energy into their ritual talismans when they do WHICH ARE MADE OF FRAGMENTED AND FOLDED PIECES OF REALITY like time or space. And the fact that people act like they arent just fucking magic bothers me so much
>>140178 Super effective but very hard to contain once released. You really must encode a kill switch.
>>140186 It's not magic though, it's just they've managed to to replicate the C'tans ability to fuck with reality as they please. When you get taught by a material god-thing how to make reality your bitch then you can do a lot of shit. I mean even the humans from the Dark Age managed to make a gun that literally deleted people from the universe and put it in a bolt gun. Or the mechanivores that could absorb space-time itself as a form of data. A member of the Mechanicus made an actually functional perpetual motion machine and decided to put it into a fucking chicken walker like vehicle. There's always been really stupid shit hidden away in 40k even when you ignore the warp fuckery side of things
What jump could let me get shadow manipulation and take it to crazy levels? Things like giving life to the shadow of an enemy and have it start attacking them, making a storage space within my own shadow, cover at least a city in darkness, etc. Been considering JJK but I don't really think you are able to improve your CT. Maybe Naruto if I put enough points in the bloodline section to be a jailbroken Nara but I'm a bit iffy on that. Probably better options but I can't think of any right now.
>>140189 Solo Leveling probably, pretty sure it's all shit the Shadow Monarch could do
>>140182 Should be based on Shield Hero.
>>140188 Its magic. If you do a ritual and it works by waving your hands and chanting to just make reality change its magic. It doesnt matter how they learned it. Hell Im pretty sure the necrons in some of the books even just straight call it sorcery.
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>>140192 I mean "technomancer" and "chronomancer" is a pretty on the head showing of it. Although in 40k it's a case of chicken and the egg, do a ritual long enough and the warp will flow in accordance to that ritual and atemporally flow backwards to make reality conform to your works.
>>140193 Fuck Im going to have to change my plans and join the technocracy to implement cybermancy now arent I?
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>>140194 Come and join Stygies VIII and ponder the mysteries of the machine god. Enjoy the best drip in the setting. We also reclaim all technology from humanities ancient past, why I got this fancy arm from an archeotech combat automata. Ignore the green colouring I assure you it's simply an ancient form of copper. If the Necrons aren't ancient human constructs then why pray tell do they look like our skeletons? Checkmate inquisitor.
>>140195 Im just thinking about how nicely cyberpunk augments would fit in. That and wondering how much a few daemons would fuck with mars before they got cut out.
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>>140196 >few daemons If you mean Cyberpunk hacking? They wouldn't. These guys deal with actual daemons infecting their data networks. Also a sandy equipped Magos Dominus would be pretty scary. Some of those dudes are augmented enough to be direct threats to Space Marines even without the fucking cyber magic time manipulation that is a Cyberpunk sandy
>>140190 Fuck. I can't believe I forgot that. Yeah, I guess that solves it. Thanks dude.
>>140187 >The plague Makes everyone break out into musical numbers >Containment Why bother?
>>140153 Like the other guy said, instead of pursuing mystical symbols of enlightenment and self-actualisation you pursue mystical symbols of degeneracy and revel in transgression. Prior to M20 Descension was kind of undefined. It was just “hey, you know those fucking losers who go into the Horrorpainevil holes? They have an anti-Ascension alternative in which they make the world worse for everyone”. Then M20 made the process a bit more clearcut: They murder, rape, get high, even engage in charitable acts to achieve what amounts to a state of altered consciousness in which they can go on a weird shamanistic journey into the Qlippoth. The goal is technically transgression and taboo, not evil per se, but they’re functionally the same thing in practice. Going deeper=more successes. The endgames are different too. In the older Mage editions Descension is just a Nyarlathotep expy summoning his eldritch masters to bring hell on Earth. In M20, the final attainment of Descension is called the Black Diamond or the Absolute: The triumph of ego and will made manifest. It turns THE MAGE into a universe-eating apocalypse god. Supposedly most of them just end up as kinda solipsistically ruling over their own husk-world-bodies, but there is explicitly nothing stopping one from coming back and starting shit in reality beyond their own will; it’s an example UR FUCKED endgame scenario
>going back through the Overlord novels to unpoison my anime brain and see exactly how strong my Jumper is after going there >realize a regular fucking Death Knight is physically equivalent to a Vice Admiral in One Piece or a mid-ranking Jonin in Naruto >they're able to move faster than the eye can see, tank hits powerful enough to destroy large buildings with no damage, and are strong enough to destroy those buildings and kill dozens of people by swinging their sword once >also they're intelligent and capable of speech, seeing as Ainz sent one to go ask the Floor Guardians questions and return with their answers I'm somehow not surprised at all but it's also really uncanny to think about a fucking level 35 undead being that strong, especially after the anime goes out of its way to make them as clunky, ungraceful, and stupid as humanly possible.
>>140189 DND 3.5 has a lot of shadow related stuff, like Shadow undead, Shadow Illusions(which are basically illusions that can affect the real world) and a bunch of different types of shadow magic. There's a several classes based on using shadows, there's an entire plane of shadows and a bunch of races connected to shadows. >>140190 Nta, but the shadow monarch is almost entirely about undead. It's only related to shadows in the sense that he can create shadow like undead and store them in his own shadow.
>>140202 Ah, even with that there's no reason no to create a custom Monarch with actual shadow powers
>>140197 Daemons are basically bullshit ai that may as well be (and in some cases just plain are) magic in cyberpunk. Songbird mission really shows how powerful even one is since they just infect reality in that mission whether something has electronics or not. And you can make one into a gun that sends your enemies to hell by ripping their souls apart if you help catch songbird. Like full on ai from outside the blackwall are the reason theres no more internet. The ai are from what I can tell via youtube, the game, some sourcebooks, and data/artbooks pretty much synthetic demons that humanity created as ai.
>>140201 Yeah Death Knights and other undead their level(like Death Warriors, Death Priest Death cavaliers, Death Mages, Death Assassins and Soul Eaters) are pretty op, with them being nearly invulnerable to low level creatures so they can take on armies of their own with even lone individuals having destroyed entire nations in the past. And because of how Overlord Wanks the undead you can easily mass produce them for literally any corpse, they're perfectly loyal, don't take anything to maintain them and they got a whole bunch of immunities.
>>140204 Gonna be honest actual daemons still sound worse. Although I'm pretty sure Mars has actual anti-AI shit baked into its bedrock by this point in 40k. It was the center of human industry during the actual 40k AI war so there's probably a bunch of shit that'd just straight up eat the Cyberpunk AIs.
>>140206 Fair enough. I just keep learning about how cyberpunk is basically eclipse phase before they left earth and the ai fucked with everything. Some really neat videos on youtube about this stuff that will jist make you hate the voodoo boys more and more.
I think the First Legion had some lobotomized, tortured AI stuffed into automata around.
>>140208 They do, Excindio-class Battle-Automata. They also had the reality deleting bolter and a bunch of other shit in their vaults that no one else got to touch because of 'reasons'. >>140207 Might have to look into that, I've been kinda wondering about the Highriders in Cyberpunk and all the space shit going on. Also friendly reminder that Cyberpunk is linked, vaguely, to Pondsmiths other setting Mekton Zeta
>>140209 Apparently its also limled to the witcher if whats her face was telling the truth about where she stayed for months. That and the symbols found in ruins protected by immortal wraiths being the same symbols as on the lottle statues in cyberpunk. A computer chip with the exact same color and design.
>>140210 Thats a more vague one, Ciri did spend time in a cyberpunk setting however it's never, to my knowledge, been confirmed as the Pondsmith Cyberpunk universe.
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Gimme some jumps that match a cyberpu k type vibe please guys, other than cyberpunk of course.
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>>140211 Ah I meant this in the witcher, ots apparently the same as on the bushido statues (unsure the real name) across night city.
Are the Soulslike stat hardcaps an in-universe thing? Like if you take Blood Echoes from Bloodborne, do you at some point hit level 99 and stop being able to use them to level yourself at some point?
>>140204 >And you can make one into a gun that sends your enemies to hell by ripping their souls apart if you help catch songbird. >Have to side with Reed to get Erebus. >I've been talking up Erebus while also intending to side with Songbird during my recorded playthrough. >Even built around SMGs to make the best use of it. fug
>>140212 Va-11 HALL-A, Repo The Genetic Opera, Ghost in the Shell, Shadowrun, Deus Ex, Eclipse Phase, Revelation Space (maybe), Blade Runner, Remember Me (kinda sorta), GUNNM, Judge Dredd, Metal Gear, Robocop (the very start of a cyberpunk setting), System Shock (also kinda sorta), Atomic Heart (maybe?)
>>140215 Yeah man I wanted the cyberdeck so bad but I couldnt do that to songbird. She may be manipulative and may have lied but honestly fuck myers. Songbird just wants to not die.
>>140212 Shadowrun.
>>140189 This is all classic JoJos shit. Shadows of the Limelight also has shadow magic that scales arbitrarily in power with fame
>>140214 I'm pretty sure even in the games it's just a softcap. I know in Elden Ring you still get an actual result after level 99 in a stat it's just so marginal that it's not worth it. Pretty sure it's just a softcap, might even match to an in universe softcap where it's the actual limit of the species you're playing as.
>>140071 Max upgraded Hangar item in the MCU part 1 jump should cover what you're looking for. >>140205 nta but Soul Eaters are iirc level 40 or 45, they're much higher than the Death series servitors. Also Death Knights are in a weird place where you can either easily deal with them or you can't deal with them at all and there's basically no inbetween. They "only" have the fighting strength of a level 25 (entry level adamantite adventure rank fighter, basically) but they've got the defense of a level 40 tank. As a result while it's entirely possible to for people to be comparable strong as a Death Knight, Gazef Stronoff for example is likely physically stronger than one given he's approximately a 'balanced' lvl 29 fighter, the simple fact is that a Death Knight's defense is so high that someone that is "only" as strong as a Death Knight physically is unlikely to be able to actually hurt one. Conversely if you *do* happen to have someone strong enough to get through their defense then the Death Knight is probably going to be little more than a speed bump. They're basically just a raw stat check in the form of a big scary undead, either you can easily deal with one or you can't deal with it at all, and the fact that they can create iirc up to 24 squire zombies, which can themselves go on to create unlimited numbers of regular zombies, mean if you don't put them down quick they can easily end up spawning hordes of undead.
>>140205 It's cool how you have the whole gamut of fantasy classes with the Death line: Warriors (Strength-based melee DPS), Assassins (Agility-based melee DPS, noted to have no actual hiding skills), Knights (high HP tanks/damage sponges), Wizards (ranged magic DPS/support), Priests (support/ranged magic DPS), and Cavaliers (high-speed mounted combat specialists). All of them have a special ability (like the Death Knight's ability to soak any attack once after being at full HP no matter how much damage it does or the Death Warrior's ability to telekinetically control and recall its weapons at range) and all of them are fully sentient and even have personalities (such as the first Death Knight that Ainz summoned in Carne Village only killing the ones who turned their backs to it until Ainz got there). What's wild is that the Death Knights are considered national disaster level undead and the scales are even hilarious as you go down. A basic Skeleton Warrior is considered to be level 15, equivalent to Gold/Platinum rank Adventurers. As shown with the Lizardmen struggling to fight them when they fought Iguava during volume 3 despite Demihumans being on average 5-10 times more dangerous physically than a human of equivalent level. Which makes me wonder what the fuck the regular humans are fighting normally in the New World. Level 5 skeletons?
On a scale of 1-10, how interested would people be in a Generic Dungeon Invasion dupe in the style of Gene's Generic Isekai Jump?
>>140217 I can and will do it to Songbird again for the funny talking gun. Maybe make note of a save I make before The Decision to show off the Songbird path later.
>>140221 It's also made worse by the fact that, as stated by Maruyama, leveling in Overlord isn't linear. It's exponential. The difference between a level 95 and level 100 character isn't 5%, it's like 5-10 times or some wacky shit like that. The level scaling in Yggdrasil must've been fucking crazy.
>>140201 But could Ainz defeat ZOVAAL, THE JAILER? He is Titan++ by the way
>>140119 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM >>140223 Not familiar with the genre. Is that like the Korean Portal Fantasy jump?
>>140220 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MCu7F5e8pd4 homosexual short but I do believe there is a hard max at 99 in all stats
>>140223 I'd be interested, the generic portal invasion jump has some issues.
>>140227 >Korean Portal Fantasy jump? That's what I'm talking about. I just left out the "Korean" part of the title.
>>140222 >Which makes me wonder what the fuck the regular humans are fighting normally in the New World Mostly each other. The Theocracy has kept all the really serious dangers away from the human nations with their various special forces groups so as a result the human nations in the region have basically no fucking clue how dangerous most of the world is or how their combat doctrine is completely wrong. They make the mistake of thinking that having more numbers in a fight actually means something even when there's people that exist, which they presumably know about, that can take on thousands of people at once and win like Gazef, the various Imperial Arena champions, just about any of the more established adamantite adventures and etc. It doesn't help that a lot of extremely wrong "common sense" ideas have spread around, like the idea that you can just pick up a new profession no problem and that anyone that puts enough effort into something can succeed even though the way the level system works makes that categorically untrue thanks to both inherent level caps and the fact that switching between different class archtypes leads to fucked up builds.
>>140223 I’d like it. The idea reminds me of the system apocalypse jump.
>>140228 Ah true, I'm thinking about the difference in Elden Ring where if you have equipment that gives stats the game will actually calculate the correct bonus even if that stat goes beyong 99. I'd presume 99 to just be the max possible potential of your ingame species then but no idea
>>140231 I actually remember that during the Holy Kingdom arc in the novel Remedios thinks to herself that if it weren't for physical tiredness or some insane unforeseen incident an army of like 100,000 regular Beastmen, all of whom were roughly 5-10 times stronger than an equivalent human soldier, was something she could slaughter by herself no problem. Remedios is like level 30.
>>140223 Sounds good to me, will there be a wardrobe item that is filled with nothing but black clothing and black trench coats? >>140225 But only if you lean into your specialization for a properly optimized build. A level 15 that focused exclusively on being a fighter is going to wallop a level 25 that split their levels between 5 fighter, 5 mage, 5 cleric, 5 thief and 5 smith.
Best/favorite goth waifus other than Raven?
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>>140221 >nta but Soul Eaters are iirc level 40 or 45, they're much higher than the Death series servitors doesn't matter, they're still mid tier undead that can easily be mass produced, thats how Ainz got over 500 of them for the Battle of the Kaze Plains >>140222 >despite Demihumans being on average 5-10 times more dangerous physically than a human of equivalent level I am pretty sure this isn't true. the way levels works this shouldn't be possible.
>>140223 Considering how flexible Gene’s version is, a 10 for me please
>>140237 I'm glad you're having fun, buddy.
>>140236 Tri moon from Kult
>>140237 Then make a Jump. I can't imagine any other Jumpmaker making an attempt.
>>140240 Thanks, buddy
>>140242 That's why I'm watching the show. I already announced this
>>140234 Remedios is iirc actually either 34th or 35th, she's right on the cusp of the limit of what the locals consider the realm of heroes, with 'outlier' status starting at 36th. Also yeah if she didn't have to worry about stamina issues I could easily see her carving her way through tens of thousands of regular beastmen. It's one of the reasons Gazef was so ridiculous when equipped with the Kingdom's treasures and why the anti-royal faction went out of their way to prevent him from using them, because iirc one of the items gave him health and stamina regen which effectively just let him keep fighting until everyone was dead. Additionally Remedios was so autistically focused on being a paladin that she almost certainly had if not an optimized build then the closest thing to one that a new worlder was likely to get thanks to her single-minded focus.
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>>140200 >Supposedly most of them just end up as kinda solipsistically ruling over their own husk-world-bodies, but there is explicitly nothing stopping one from coming back and starting shit in reality beyond their own will I find the implication that the main thing keeping the World of Drakness safe from the eldritch demon god mages is the fact that they think the whole thing is lame and gay, and they are too busy enjoying their own self insert power fantasies to want to bother with it, very amusing.
>>140186 >>140183 I am low key angry that Nu-Bungie retconned the Ecumene from Forerunners expies into an entire civilisation of Darkness users, even though it is technically an upgrade because it means they are Forerunners expies WITH space magic. The idea of a civilisation getting that advanced on pure tech instead of relying on space magic in Destiny’s universe is much cooler. It also makes it very, very weird that despite knowing about Darkness for presumably however long it took to build a motherfucking spacefaring civilisation, they never encountered anything like the Taken or foresaw any CONCEIVABLE military use for it despite provably having a powerful military. At least you actually saw the Qugu using Darkness to fight. Hell, the Qugu actually have the BEST on-page feat because they blew up a fucking Pyramid! It took most of the surviving race’s military tapping into the memories of their ancestors or some shit, but they fucking out-Resonance’d one of the Witness’ personal attack vehicles before the others nuked them. >>140121 With the caveat that this is rating them solely on spaceships and only spaceships, I would go with >>140136 except I would swap Warhammer 40K and Star Trek. Federation ships have lasers that (allegedly) have the power of supernovas (the one built to fight the Borg, specifically. It wasn’t built very well for that specific purpose in my opinion but that’s a separate discussion and I’m pretty sure my Janeway Clone Army idea is considered a war crime) on top of having capabilities like teleportation and reverse engineering most mundane materials and some exotic ones. And the thing is, the Federation isn’t even the most advanced civilisation there. There’s the guy with a ship armed with a projector that rewrites the history of entire civilisations that Voyager ran into, plus the Higher Synthetics and Unknown Species 10-C alone have ridiculous things like a manually controlled artificial black hole. But nobody talks about the last couple because they’re from Discovery and Picard.
Story concept: instead of reincarnating into a chain like an isekai protagonist, someone else was reincarnated into you and your benefactor is just coming to pick you up after letting you cook for a lifetime or so. >>140236 >pic I assume that's some fanfic version of Blake and not the canon Shitty Kitty. Anyways aside from Raven I also really like Tharja from Fire Emblem Awakening.
>>140244 Oh, must have missed that. As you were.
>>140225 This definitely isn't true. he has specifically talked about how compatibility and equipment cant overcome level differences and the limits of such. Like he even broke down in detail how Climb as a level 15 was able to defeat a level 30 enemy. With how the enemy was half illusionist half fighter and the illusionist levels only contribute 1/3 to the physical stats making him only physically as strong as a level 20 fighter which climb could overcome with martial arts and decent equipment.
>>140247 >pure tech instead of relying on space magic The Vex?
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>>140236 This chick from Scooby Doo
>>140216 >Repo The Genetic Opera Industrialization has crippled the globe Nature failed as technology spread! Great, I need to relisten to the soundtrack again
>>140234 which is stupid since the demi humans had tribal chiefs and royals among all their clans, many of whom are around the realm of heroes themselves.
>>140247 >shard approval total anal probe victory
>>140238 It's stated to be the case. I think it's probably exaggerated but it's undeniable that Beastmen/Demihumans are just way stronger than humans are. I don't think it's a strictly linear scale (that is, every Demihuman isn't 5 times stronger physically than a human) but rather is an overall estimate of their abilities. So for example, you've got a Minotaur that could obliterate a human of equivalent level with a single blow but isn't any faster and you also have a Troll who's a lot weaker than the Minotaur physically but has regen that makes it extremely difficult to kill without fire. You've got Lizardmen who have incredibly tough scales, natural healing, and amphibious capabilities. You've got Orcs who are extremely strong and durable and make powerful and aggressive warriors. Altogether every Demihuman race is stronger than a human of equivalent level. Not to the same extreme degree as a Heteromorphic species like a Dragon or Hydra with racial levels but still a lot stronger than a regular human. It makes absolutely zero sense mechanically for an MMO but that's just how it seems to be.
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>>140248 >Pic Footfags have infiltrated every strata of society. They're lurking, waiting to force feet into our faces until everyone is as sick as them
>>140247 >Star Trek The strongest species in Star Trek, outside the god aliens like the Q, Organian etc, are the dinosaurs. 70 million years of technological advancement in Star Trek of all settings means they should be the god-dinos of all existance. They probably fought the T'kon and Iconians or watched those two and laughed at the young primitives
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>>140257 seems unlikely
>>140200 >it’s an example UR FUCKED endgame scenario WoD seems to have a lot of those doesn't it?
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>>140257 Awful. Post more so we know what to look out for.
>>140257 also don't forget QQ has a foot fetish jump, they're even here
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>>140245 nta, but Remedios is a Paladin(Genius) we've seen from Brain who's a Gighter(Genius) that being Genius in a class can push you incredibly far and even transcend your level temporarily.
>>140256 IIRC it's that hetermorphs get frontloaded strong racial classes just for existing whereas humanoids have to build up with weaker classes first (but do ultimately outscale hetermorphs, all else equal)
>>140259 Waka fucked that. He fucked that hard, and produced offspring.
>>140261 The only one I can think of are the Antediluvians waking up for a midnight snack. Maybe something with Paradox if mages fuck up the masquerade they got going?
>>140257 My dude, if your eyes are drawn to the feet instead of the massive ass and thicc thighs then that's completely a you problem.
>>140266 Imagine having to endure sex with Wakka, listening to him trying to talk dirty with that accent.
>>140266 Not in my chain.
>>140264 >Remedios I love how she was completely right but for the wrong reasons solely due to undead racism.
>>140269 There are many women who would legitimately enjoy that
>>140200 >It turns THE MAGE into a universe-eating apocalypse god. Supposedly most of them just end up as kinda solipsistically ruling over their own husk-world-bodies, but there is explicitly nothing stopping one from coming back and starting shit in reality beyond their own will So they... get a chain?
>>140248 That’s a nice concept, reminds me of SSSS Gridman with Yuta to an extent who becomes a host to Gridman. However after he leaves, Yuta has no memory of what happened during the first anime & his character growth takes a massive hit since he wasn’t the one going through the experience. Gridman was & he has to undergo his own journey in Gridman Universe
>>140223 That could be fun to see. A 7 I suppose. Good luck if you do. >>140219 I'd need a couple of Stands to pull that off wouldn't I? Thank you. >>140202 I'll have to look into DND I guess. Thank you too. >SM You sure? I thought he had general control over it, or at least Ashborn did, and Jin-Wo hasn't gotten to that point. Think someone mentioned all the items in the System shop had been created by him making them out of shadows or something.
>>140269 >Waka nuts inside "Ugh, praise be to Yevon." >>140270 Sorry Nyanko, but Lulu is BUILT for the BIG WAKA COCKA She just loves gargling on his massive Blitzballs She's always following the hairy orange trail of his Mushroom Rock Road
>>140256 I am just saying, there is no way that Demihumans are several times stronger than humans of eqivalent level in general. Maybe I could see a demihuman level giving several times more stats than an equivalent amount of fighter levels for example, but Demihumans only get like 5-10 racial levels max(and we know many like the lizardman zaryusu dont even get more than 1) and that difference is not gonna carry at anything beyond beginner levels. Sure it matters when a level 5 lizardman fights a level 5 sodier. But its not gonna be near as impactful when a level 20 lizardman fights a level 20 adventurer.
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>>140264 If I'm not mistaken, it's actually not Paladin (Genius) or Fighter (Genius). It's Genius (Paladin) and Genius (Fighter), essentially. That is, they both belong to the same class of Genius. It's the same class that Renner has, if I'm remembering right. I believe it was explained that the Genius class is a unique class that has the ability to essentially swap its levels out for those of any other normal base class. The exact mechanics were never explained but you can be a Genius (Fighter) and theoretically convert into a Genius (Wizard) or a Genius (Paladin). At least if I'm remembering right, I might be wrong.
>>140266 >>140259 >the baby even has his stupid hair already forming
>>140262 >pic Sauce?
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>>140246 Oh, it’s BARELY an implication. The Black Diamond is basically everything an evil wizard could ever want, self-contained in the metaphysical nadir of existence, with literally no reason to ever leave except >Mmm god-flesh yummy >>140261 It’s been trying to cut back on those, but it’s practically a trademark by now. >>140273 Might as well be, honestly.
>>140271 tbf, undead racism is pretty much right in setting. Evileye is quite literally the only exception of a non-evil undead and her existence is a miracle, requiring a unique talent being used to copy a unique wild magic spell used by an undead ancient dragon lord.
>31 jumps in the uploads We've really been cranking them out lately
>>140254 nta but in her mind running into someone as strong as her is the insane unforseen incident. Keep in mind Remedios is not just strong but also the chiefs and whatnot as strong as her? They're not raiding the Holy Kingdom because they're way too busy countering each other out in the territories they live in. As far as anyone in the Holy Kingdom is aware there aren't any beastmen as strong as she is, plus even when the beastmen did invade as part of Demiurge forcing the issue the trio of beastmen chiefs she ran into were all weaker than her, if not by much. >>140256 The real issue is the level cap. The average person only has 15 levels total they can ever get in their life and most human(oids) don't come even close to that on account of never challenging themselves. Demihumans by contrast have racial classes that they level up in just by living, so by the time a human becomes an adult they might still be only level 1 or 2 and probably in civilian classes, by contrast a tiger beastman is going to have 10 levels in the tiger beastman racial class and maybe one or two levels in some other class, either civilian or combat depending on their role. When most people are limited to only level 15 and the vast majority never even get to 5th, the virtual guarantee of hitting 10th or higher just by growing up is a ridiculous advantage even before you consider racial bonuses like enhanced physical ability. The one downside is that beastman racial classes pigeonhole those races down one specific build path. Orc racial classes iirc count as progression towards barbarian levels so if they focus on being a barbarian then they're going to be sitting pretty, by contrast an Orc shaman will likely never obtain the ability to use 2nd tier spells since that requires 8 caster levels, and between that and 10 levels in Orc the average orc literally doesn't have a high enough level cap to ever get there.
>>140278 its not really adressed in setting, but there does seem to be a difference between the Genius Class Renner possses which lets her mimic other classes, and certain new world characters having Genius as a class modifer, representing immense talent int hat class. Like Brain and Remedios seem more like martial geniuses, rather than geniuses who chose to devote themselves to fighting.
>>140274 I'm thinking it's a good excuse to "start" a chain by self-inserting into someone, like Link in a Zelda chain.
>>140283 To be fair most are just updates of various sizes.
>>140286 >Hyaaaap
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>>140286 Go for it, the Zelda series is one of the easier settings to get a chain like this going & some perks in either the Goddess Era or in Skyward Sword jumps should help you out
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>>140246 >the main thing keeping the World of Drakness safe from the eldritch demon god mages is the fact that they think the whole thing is lame and gay, and they are too busy enjoying their own self insert power fantasies to want to bother with it
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>>140284 worth noting that not every demihumans increases in level in their racial class. Like among the lizardmen we see 3 sheets, 2 have only 1 racial level each(though one is special) the ohter got 5. But then we have the Quagoa Lord for example who has his full 20 racial levels unlocked.
>>140283 I want new shit already >>140289 >webm footfag reference
>>140278 nta but no, Genius the class is completely different from any other class with the (Genius) tag. Genius is an ultra rare class that can be used to obtain the skills and abilities of any other basic class with a cooldown between switches. This is what lets Renner seem so omnicapable because she can effectively switch her classes over to whatever it is she's thinking about, for example she wants to figure out crop rotation so she just gains the skills of a farmer suddenly so she just knows about farming, and her class is said to be so rare that only like 5 or 6 people in the entire world have it. A class with the (genius) tag by contrast signifies that a persons talent with that *specific* class is incredibly high, giving them much greater affinity for it and allowing them to quickly gain experience and excel within the focus of that specific class. Iirc I think Murayama once said in an interview that the (Genius) tag is basically a form new world Talent.
>>140292 how did they make that lizard so fuckable while still being just a giant lizard?
When did I fall into the wrong crowd and end up here? I can't quite recall.
>>140296 It's, uh... not, anon. Neither of them are.
>>140298 The white lizard lady is an incredibly lewd creature!
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>>140292 Very fuckable white lizard.
>>140297 Fall? Rise? Its the same We are all mad here.
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>>140297 You were sent to wonderland, the clock is ticking
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I just had a thought, if Paradox is the universe putting a ban hammer on the supernatural because muggles don't believe in it then why aren't other Splats effected by it?
>>140297 I can
>>140305 I was lurking and anonposting for at least two years before I got a trip.
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>>140306 Perhaps so but this was your birth as a namefag
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>>140297 I've been here since the very beginning.
I think even though I'd start as a double F-Rank, skill points are skill points so I'll be able to pump my magic and defensive stats pretty high in spite of myself (especially because I can ignore stuff like strength or agility entirely). Mage glacier build it feels like, which makes sense with being an object. I think to get the requisite experience to evolve out of a Ceremonial Candle, I'll have to take advantage of the fact that I appear to be inanimate to take an assailant attacking the temple off guard with magic, either with a wick garotte or good old fireball.
>>140304 >Vampires are technically objects going by mage splats >Werewolves are just the worlds sponsored eco terrorists
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>>140297 You're exactly where you belong.
>>140304 Because the muggles are sleepers, subconscious users of the same magic system as the Mages to maintain reality. When the mages use this reality maintenance tool to do their own bullshit the rest of them auto-correct and retaliate.
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Did anyone see stupid fucking Mega Starmie yet
>>140312 So technically paradox is just a result of one big unintentional ritual?
>>140314 Kind of?
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>>140289 What makes you say that?
>>140313 I'm too busy playing much better games.
>>140304 Old or new?
>>140103 Last I checked, it wasn't certain you could get more than one extra set out of it. The drug was originally developed to help people who failed to fully grow in even their first set of teeth, and it just so happens humans start growing in a third set but the body aborts the process early. It's the same mechanism, just triggered at a different time, and the drug reverses it. So while the drug is showing promise at helping people finish growing a set of teeth they've already started, it isn't (wasn't?) known if the effect would let you start growing an entirely new batch of teeth.
>>140313 >video Man that's some PS2 Tales Of Series quality combat.
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>>140312 But why ONLY Mages? Vampires have Blood Magic too. >>140318 Don't question it and just guess.
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>>140297 Nyanko, you're into this. Even if you left the crowd, you couldn't escape yourself. Not that I blame you, mind.
>>140267 >the Wyrm >the Weaver >Yama Kings >Antediluvians >the Earthbound >Threat Null >Nephandic Gods (sometimes but not always the Wyrm) >Grandma >the Neverborn There are plenty of things gearing up to end all existence in oWoD.
>>140317 I probably should get Time Stranger but I'm running low on space so I'm getting careful about what I buy
Is a character winning a fight plot armour?
>>140321 >Don’t question it and just guess OK, Paradox is a spook and a meme made up by wizards angry about reality’s Mana Arbitrage. Either immigrate to the Supernal/Umbra or pay your fucking magical tariffs as the price to import miracles and wonders outside of their sovereign territory.
>>140323 >Grandma Too many cookies?
>>140325 It is specifically for Harley Quinn, who seems to be getting the Speedforce some fucking how in DC KO. Total clown death. >>140327 Uh… KIND OF??? “Grandma” or Grandmother is the name given to the Grand Maw: The manifestation of Oblivion, and the darkness equal to God’s light that predated creation. This thing is essentially the fundamental force of death, to the extent of being the thing that spawned the oWoD Neverborn (again, no relation to the Exalted Neverborn. Officially). In the Orpheus metaplot it’s starting to wake up, decides it’s really hungry, and that the universe looks like a tasty snack. It’s kids rebelling against it and raising armies of ghost hiveminds/trying to EAT their mother delays this process. …the twist is in a bizarrely optimistic twist for oWoD, it turns out Grand Maw actually cares about those of her kids not actively trying to eat her. Humans are just too smol for her to perceive. And that if someone manages to tell her that yes, humans have thoughts and feelings and lives, then she immediately stops trying to eat existence.
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Anons, for reasons jumper has ended up in a position where they must take an absolute jobber of a servant. I'm talking E to C rank in almost everything with a C-rank noble phantasm. The grail war is Fate Stay Night Abridged. Jumper is mostly low-grade Servant tier and probably just going to run the whole war. Which historical figure has what it takes to take up the mantle of Jobber-kun?
>>140330 Enjoy your Boudicca wife, I guess?
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Why do people always say that NWoD Mages are better then OWoD Mages? If it's just the mechanics and quality of life then can't you simply port the new mechanics and QoL from Awakening to Ascension without breaking lore?
>>140332 No, because that's retarded. They're completely different settings. f you're going to do that, you might as well say The Warp runs on The Force rules.
How many demi-gods of Zeus get strength as a thing they are know for or kinda boosted? If you seduced Helen of Sparta would she be able to manhandle you?
>>140334 it does, actually
>>140332 No, because Ascension and Awakening makes function on systems so mutually exclusive and utterly incompatible that there's no way to reconcile them. Paradox doesn't even function the same between the two.
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>>140330 >E to C rank in almost everything with a C-rank noble phantasm Roll from a list of every Assassin and reroll if you get King Hassan.
>>140313 bro what happened to turn-based combat
>>140305 I still don't know how to get a trip
>>140332 >Why do people always say that NWoD Mages are better then OWoD Mages? Paradox sucks less for them. In most other ways OWoD Mages have the upper hand.
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>>140330 Angry Manjew is an obvious weak servant choice. Dante is the actual author poorly self inserting/larping as one of the characters in his book, therefore it could make more sense to downgrade him into having E-C ranks in stats & NP (while also being a Caster servant if you don’t want to deal with the extra class servants like Pretender, Alter Ego, etc…)
>>140339 It's a legends game
>>140330 Frankenstein as an Assassin If you remove her mad enhancement boosts, her stats would be >Strength D >Endurance C >Agility D >Mana D >Luck B and her Noble phantasm is a C rank, that can only inflict up to B rank damage as a suicide attack. Legend wise she should totally qualify as assassin, but even her stealth skills would only be decent rather than great. Super cheap to maintain though.
>>140335 Heracles got his strength from drinking Hera's milk, it wasn't a result of his blood.
>>140330 >E to C rank in almost everything with a C-rank noble phantasm Isn't that the opposite of a jobber? A jobber is supposed to be really strong on paper, but they lose unexpectedly (usually either due to stupidity or plot). So, like Gil is the jobber king. Someone expected to lose because they're weak isn't really a jobber.
>>140335 Barely any, if we’re being honest. The vast majority of recorded Zeus demigods’ legends boil down to “Hey, I’m a really cool king! Look how cool I am!”. There are a couple of giants but one was made by him, Hermes and Poseidon literally pissing on a bull’s hide (believe it or not he was actually helping a guy who really wanted a son out. Just…in a very Olympian way) and another may have been a son of Gaia. Even if you look at Zeus’ divine children it pretty much goes nymph, ugly cripple, pretty boy (yes, Ares counts) and generic season gods. Athena is legitimately the cream of the Zeus offspring crop, and it’s not even close (mainly thanks to the Athenians recording their legends better than anyone else). Heracles was just built different. Nobody else was deemed relevant for the Gigantomachia. >>140332 Paradox is less oriented towards metaphysically buttfucking you (you can literally just pay more mana to grease the wheels), the threat of the world ending is less urgent because the most powerful and organised evil wizard faction wants to keep it the way it is while the eldritch abominations are all stuck outside of reality, and arguably you get more bang for your buck at the babby mage end of things. Time travel is possible at 5 dots, for example. >>140339 Parrying killed the turn-based star.
>>140346 This. What you want is a B+/A rank Servant who either only has technical victories where they should've won more handily/stomped if things were otherwise equal, or spent most of their time posturing while not actually doing anything before being taken down by a C/D-lister who had no business punching up, let alone doing so that successfully.
>>140344 Thanks to Galvanism she can even (theoretically) be maintained with a mundane electrical generator. Not only super cheap to maintain, but fully maintainable even with mundane resources. Nearly no other Servant (without Independent Manifestation or Independent Action EX) can boast the same.
>>140330 It doesn't quite fit what you're looking for, but I honestly think that Jason would be a funny fit for the Fuyuki grail war, abridged or not. The great thing about Jason is that he's more useful, competent and heroic the worse the situation is, and he's a funny lil guy all around. Plus Herc and Medea are also there already, so there's plenty of room for shenanigans to happen because of that alone.
>>140348 nta, or get a great servant and just be too bad of a master to let them use most of their abilities. Like be a early Shirou level master with Karna as your servant. >>140349 not only that, she can also just absorb the mana in the enviromen(other servants can too, but in a similar way like mages where they use that to fuel attacks rather than restore their reserves) like as long as she doesn't abuse her powers too much, you could maintain her by letting her take walks at nights draining the air at different locations.
>>140340 it's pretty simple
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Would it be funny if I jumped through all the World of Darkness jumps in a random order and kept mixing them up and kept referencing shit from the wrong setting to the confusion of the locals?
>>140349 >Nearly no other Servant can boast the same. I mean, besides most casters and, after FGO and SR, any servant that has a leyline to connect.
ah, but I am retarded so I bet I still fail
>>140352 >>140355 well I got the trip but i failed to link the proper post so my retardation is still intact
>>140354 You're talking about Servants who can set up self-maintenance via tapping leyllines and the like. Fran doesn't even need that, she can just chill without it. Give her a diesal generator and she's set. Give her a nice romantic walk on the beach every now and again and she's 100%. You do not need to be a mage to support her, or tap into leylines, or anything. She's just good all on her own. Other Servants can tap into leylines or eat souls or what have you to support themselves; Fran doesn't need that. Very few other Servants can get by without any mystical support at all like Fran can.
>>140354 nta, but the majority of servants cant just sustain themselves from leylines. Servants are heroic spirits, not nature spirts, their energy needs are met with energy from living beings. Enviromental energy can supplement their power(espeically casters) but rarely its enough to sustain them. Like Medea had a great temple with perfect access to the high equality fuyuki leylines and she still needed to tap into the souls of the inhabitants to gather power properly.
>>140335 >Helen I think just being supernaturally pretty is her demigod power, if I'm being honest. Well, that, and hatching from an egg (in some versions), since Zeus was a swan when he did the do with Leda. However, she IS probably pretty fit. Ovid and Sextus Propertius both claimed she spent her youth wrestling in the palaestra, being a Spartan princess and all. I do mean that literally, and Sextus even claims she grew up hunting and training with weapons alongside her brothers (those being Castor and Pollux). Just be careful that you're not in the version where the Helen that runs off with Paris (and likely by extension you) is a hologram created by Aphrodite while the real Helen waits out the war in Egypt. Or the version where her real mom is Nemesis. Also, you'd do well to wait longer than Theseus did.
>>140348 B-but the wobbly punches… B-but Shirou (younger form of a canonically mid Servant by the way) shot faster… B-but Shishou had depression… B-but…actually no, I can’t think of an excuse for Caenis. Caenis just kind of sucks.
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me this reminds me that Fate Labyrinth had a place in a dungeon that was a hot spring with mana filled water which allowed the servants ro replenish their power. I have to look into getting one of those.
>>140359 >Just be careful that you're not in the version where the Helen that runs off with Paris (and likely by extension you) is a hologram created by Aphrodite while the real Helen waits out the war in Egypt That sounds like a Grecan cope myth to me.
>>140346 >>140348 A true jobber finds a way to aura farm their way into the high tiers without any true potential to back it up >>140349 THE GOAT of existing cheaply !! Uncontested* in the realm of low maintenance !! (***>>140354)
Any good parry/deflection type perks out there? Either ones that make you very good at it, stun the opponent, knock back non-physical attacks like Link does, or whatever really.
>>140362 >Herodotus adds weight to the "Egyptian" version of events by putting forward his own evidence—he traveled to Egypt and interviewed the priests of the temple (Foreign Aphrodite, ξείνη Ἀφροδίτη) at Memphis.
>>140364 Royal Guard or PDs.
>>140362 Take that up with Euripides, Stesichorus, and Herodotus.
>>140363 >A true jobber finds a way to aura farm their way into the high tiers without any true potential to back it up But enough about Kotal Kahn. >>140364 You…Blocked? from 8-Bit Theatre was my old standby before we got PDs in Jumpchain (or that one Katanagatari perk for literally perfect swordsmanship)
>>140359 I'll either be doing it in Greek Myth or using Generic Isekai to make a mythic sandbox type Isekai, not sure yet.
>>140363 How many Servants can be supported via AA batteries*? (*Actually you'd probably need like, car batteries, but still.)
>>140367 >>140365 “What’s your source for that, Herodotus?” “Trust me bro, I know a buddy in Thebes” “Close enough, sounds legit”
>>140371 I mean, "trust me bro" is Herodotus' source in a LOT of cases. It's entirely in-character.
>>140342 >Angry Manjew Isn't he... in the grail? How does that work. Does he get like favoritism from Big Grail?
I once considered making a servant based on Varney' the vampire(a British vampire story that predates Dracula by like 50 years) One interesting thing when I looked into him was that he most likely would have the Galvanism skill as well. Over the course of the stories he died several times and was revived in various ways. One among them was being revived by a university student experimenting with Galvanism on his corpse.
>>140374 But could Varney take on a Dead Apostle Ancestor?
So for the Cream Jump helping that Based Doctor Jack Bellifer who made it and maybe asking if he wants to come along after fixing the problems (evil scum)seems the best to me. I am just wondering what other crazy inventions he could get up to considering his only flaw is that he is too trusting and kind as a super scientist.
>>140357 I wasn't talking about the casters setting up leylines or a workshop, I was talking about the ones that are actually self suficient without any effort. The leyline ones are the rogue servants, but they have some drawbacks. >>140358 In FGO there's rogue servants, but they are kinda summoned by the land so it makes some sense. But in samurai remnant they can just connect to a leyline and stay as long as they don't leave.
>>140374 I mean, he is the First Literary Vampire. That's got to be a strong amount of Mystery loaded up in him like that.
>>140377 >I wasn't talking about the casters setting up leylines or a workshop >>140354 >I mean, besides most casters and, after FGO and SR, any servant that has a leyline to connect. Uh, anon? This is pretty easy to factcheck. True self-sufficiency is extremely rare amongst Servants. Casters can generally ape it with Workshops or weird mystical bullshit and connecting to Leylines can help, but besides that it's extremely rare that a Servant can just kinda support itself without something like Independent Manifestation.
>>140378 Nah, there actually a number of poems and stories before him. He was just particularly influential on the genre, being the first vampire conflicted about his condition, leaving punctured wounds on his victims and some things like that.
>>140370 Mana transfers are a guy nutting. One load contains 5 to 25 calories, at the maximum about 110 joules. A typical alkaline AA battery contains between 11,250 to 15,390 joules of energy. A pair of AA batteries could keep a servant powered for 279.8 times longer than even the biggest mana transfer, so you could say 279 servants could be fueled by a pair of AA batteries
>>140380 Even better in a way, back when shit like this and not “Umu umu I believe in myself so I’m a goddess now” or “I sword so hard I can defeat dyson spheres” fame buffed a Servant above and beyond their normal powerlevel.
>>140381 Unfortunately, 99.9% of Servants aren't fueled by calories. They're fueled by mana, which has no correlation to caloric content. So you can nut in them all you like, and without the requisite mana to fuel them it'll do nothing. Fran is unique in that she CAN be fueled by electricity.
>>140379 Yeah I am talking about the ones that can just cheat mana without preparation, Tamamo, Paracelsus, Babbage, Hans, Gilgamesh, Gilles, Maxwell, etc. Even Circe in Salem from what I remember, but her I don't remember if she set somethign up before wacking Medea.
>>140384 Gil is ABSOLUTELY not on that list. Remember the basement full of orphans dedicated to running him in Fate/Stay Night? Gilles is also not on that list, needing quite a lot of murder and soul-eating for fuel. I'm highly, HIGHLY doubtful of Tamamo and Hans, but can't say about Paracelsus, Babbage, or Circe.
>>140383 Nta, they can still eat to regain mana, it's just not very efficient. Like saber eating 3 large meals a day only gave her 8 units worth of energy a day, which is enough to sustain her in a Grail war if she sleeps too(though it doesn't cover her using energy for fights), but outside of a Grail war just maintaining her took hundreds of units of energy a day without grail support.
>>140386 >Saber Saber has the benefit of still being alive
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>>140385 Nta, but the murder was for fun, his time just generated limitless energy by itself
If I was a girl I would fall for Luffy's harem aura
>>140387 That is not a benefit, it just means she can't enter spirit mode. The benefits of sleeping and eating for servants are universal.
>>140347 >Paradox is less oriented towards metaphysically buttfucking you (you can literally just pay more mana to grease the wheels), the threat of the world ending is less urgent because the most powerful and organised evil wizard faction wants to keep it the way it is while the eldritch abominations are all stuck outside of reality, and arguably you get more bang for your buck at the babby mage end of things. Time travel is possible at 5 dots, for example Aren't those problems that mostly solve themselves by going to a new jump and the rest with magic genius perks?
>>140389 Would you unfall for it when you realise he's a glutton that has no sexual drive outside of comedic nosebleeds?
>>140392 I'd probably just become a continual simp like Hancock
>>140385 Gilgamesh was incarnated, he didn't need mana or the orphans even if he was any other servant, he even says he just let Kirei do it for fun. Tamamo, Gilles and Hans Noble Phantasms give them near infinite mana (but the latter does need some setup).
>>140391 Depends on how your magic genius perks work. Arguably, most might not apply, since power in Mage is not just a matter of skill/talent, but of Gnosis/Arete which are measured independently of skill.
>>140394 Eightfold Blessings of Amaterasu only lasts for like 5 turns tho
>>140393 I feel kinda sad now.
>>140389 That poor Amazon woman in desperate need of an anatomy lesson. Luffy is a jerk for not helping her.
>>140360 >I can’t think of an excuse for Caenis. Caenis just kind of sucks She's a Bejita expy.
>>140391 In theory it should, but it’s been a while and I think some of the jumps specify the problems stick around because reasons/in an attempt to balance a magic system that can theoretically do virtually anything if the Lie/Consensus comes down. It’s probably still worth Ascending in either, anyway. >>140399 To be fair, Bejita wasn’t literally raped. Although in hindsight she was probably infected by jobber particles from Poseidon considering Poseidon’s main role in Fate is to get fucking wrecked by “Francis Drake” over and over and over again. (Necessity of quotation marks debatable now that they have basically dropped the implications that she might be Queen Liz on vacation or something)
>>140398 Because of Japanese language shenanigans she believes his testicles are literally spheres of gold he stores inside his sack
>>140375 Depends on the Ancestor. Lourve is an unqualified filler-candidate, so killing his should be workable since he doesn’t really have any crazy gimmick.
>>140401 Again, she needs a real anatomy lesson. Plus all Asians need to be slapped for just how stupid their languages are and how many words are exactly the same as other words that mean very different things.
>>140396 Tamamo is a cheating cheater who, after having her contract with Twice severed, avoided deletion by the Moon Cell by hiding herself from its senses until Hakuno calls out for a servant, at which point she makes a contract with them, as if they’d actually summoned her. When Hakuno and Tamamo fight Twice and Tamamo, they’re not fighting another iteration of Tamamo, they’re fighting Hakuno’s Tamamo from the past.
Hey, where is god slaying blade works jump at? Can't find it on the drive.
>>140405 Campione folder?
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>>139658 An Emperor's Blade appears. Do not listen to illiterates on /vg/, for they lack reading comprehension. Also, apparently taking Holy Fool means that you just kind of do this whenever you walk somewhere. >>140095 ACTUALLY it's possible even EARLIER as long as you're willing for it to be a little smaller (although technically you could link multiple via Irises at their borders to bootleg a larger one). Technically all you need is Space 5 (can create pocket dimensions), Time 2 (to give them internal temporal progression), Matter 5 (to create material structure and oxygen, though technically this isn't necessary because of the next one), Life 5 (to create custom monster girls, technically in lieu of Matter 5 you can use this to make a giant tree to serve as both home and oxygen supply), and Mind 5 (to pilot your monster girl meatsuits with custom-built perfectly loyal waifu Goetia). Technically you might be able to shave some of these off depending on what concessions you're willing to make for getting it made sooner.
>>140405 >>140406 Crossover Folder in Series
Speaking of Tamamo, I wonder what she's doing right now ever since the sealing rock broke.
>>140410 Resting in peace, like she has been ever since Gennō Shinshō exorcised her from the sessho-seki.
>>140410 >sealing rock broke >no new anime about Tamamo-no-Mae, who's awkward and speaks in an old fashioned dialect, ending up in modern Japan and having to live a normal life while figuring out everything that's changed in the meantime It's literal gold, you hacks. Quit making D-tier isekai adaptations and give me fluffy goodness!
>>140413 I imagine there's probably a small-time SoL manga with that premise floating around somewhere. Or a Doujinshi series. Nothing big or popular enough to warrant an anime adaptation though.
>>140401 is that why the dude's balls in dandadan become golden balls when Turbo Granny steals them
>>140415 Yes. It was mentioned in a previous thread that the Japanese word for testicles is kintama, literally "golden balls".
This thread seems to talk about World of Darkness a lot, let's all band together to list out the sins of the Garou. I'll start. >Murdered the only changing breed built to purify Wyrm taint
>>140417 Existence.
>>140372 While there’s a lot of cases of his claims coming up false, a surprising number have turned out to have a solid basis in reality. The man always did caveat his claims with “this is what I have heard from X”, which is more careful sourcing than most authors of his time period.
>>140416 >>140415 >In Japan they are Golden Balls >In the west they are "The Family Jewels" I love this linguistic convergent evolution
>>140403 >Plus all Asians need to be slapped for just how stupid their languages are and how many words are exactly the same as other words that mean very different things. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
>>140421 >Translation >The small elephant went to the store to buy a pink apple.
You courted your foxwife properly, right? You didn't steal her hoshi-no-tama and blackmail her into marrying you, did you?
>>140414 Best I currently got is an christmas cake fox and a salaryman trying to have a romance. https://mangadex.org/title/2fe5571f-ecc9-4a26-9a50-cfa09757a735/totsugi-okureta-kitsune-ga-yome-ni-kuru-hanashi
>>140423 Of course I did. And then I left her at the altar.
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>>140423 Jumper did not do that. He does not waifu filthy foxes. He waifus proper things, like frog girls that evolve into titty squids.
>>140417 >murdered the Bunyip into extinction so hard that now the entire Australian Dreamtime has a KILL ON SIGHT notice for any Garou dumb enough to set even a paw into its lands
>>140425 >not having a loving marriage and multiple children with her only to discover she's a fox so you run her out of the village with an angry mob guilt-free and then immediately get with some other lady Small time.
>>140427 I wonder how the Dreamtime would react to an actually penitent Garou looking to follow their ways?
>>140420 There's a similar corollary regarding roosters as a euphemism for penis, but that one's a fair bit lower in usage over there.
>>140423 I got one for free for being a salaryman with good tail petting abilities.
>>140427 I still find that scene where a group of Garou try to force their way into the affairs of the Beast Courts and their response is “Well, if you can find a Bunyip to vouch for your character, we’ll be happy to work with you” to be hilarious.
>>140429 They'd end up lost, presumed eaten. The Garou will never be forgiven for what they did, same for the Ananasi who are equally hunted for their part in the War of Tears. Forgiveness is cheap when both groups sought to wipe out one of Gaia's own defenders and their own kin respectively (reminder that the Bunyip were not a separate species of Fera, but were a Garou tribe) out of a sheer spiteful dissatisfaction they weren't dying out enough for their taste (Ananasi) and a bullheaded desire to control the caverns of the Outback. There is simply no forgiveness to be found here. Only death for the ones who violated the Dreamtime out of greed and hate.
>>140431 EMIYA's head looking tiny
>>140433 *caerns of the Outback.
What if when Sadako came to kill you you just went "haters gonna hate" and then dabbed in her face?
>>140423 Jumper doesn't have a foxwife. All they got was a night with a dying god and then they got turned into a Kitsune
>>140436 What if you worked on your jumps?
>>140438 Fack you
>>140436 I imagine she'd just assume you're mentally unwell and then kill you anyway, it probably wouldn't even make her hesitate.
>>140437 ……I remember that CYOA. Was very sad.
>>140436 You'd still die? She isn't human enough to care about whatever meme shit you're doing. It's like trying to get Kayako to give you a reaction beyond a croaking gurgle before she disembowels you.
>>140424 >Fourth page has the fox flashing her genitals to random strangers on the road
>>140441 The one about the last harvest festival, yeah?
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>>140423 I'd never marry someone so stinky.
>>140440 >>140442 Yeah but if she kills you then that means she's owned now because you got to her. Everyone will call her the meme ghost after seeing live streamed footage of her giving you a heart attack after dabbing at her
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>>140441 Yeah, it's really sad. I always go for the tail since it means being able to keep a piece of the goddess around >>140444 Nah, the one I'm referencing is The Sweetest Sunset. The one about the harvest festival is One More Harvest. They're both by KitsuneAnon though
>>140447 I'm not gonna reread these because I don't wanna be sad but thanks.
Good morning friends. >>140016 I haven't looked into any leaks, but my understanding was that the original Red and Green were going to work based off seeds that would determine your encounter rates. This is what became the Trainer ID, and ultimately they settled on two fixed versions of the game.
>>140446 And again, she won't care. You're assuming the literally made of sheer seething hate wraith/ghost virus/half-demon hellspawn/burgeoning reality warping god thinks like a person and not simply entirely unnatural. She will not care what people think or laugh about regarding her because she's still going to kill and they probably won't be laughing when they're next on the chopping block.
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>>140448 No problem. ... I like the idea of taking Hope Blossoms, another melancholic CYOA about getting magic for helping and healing other people, before taking The Sweetest Sunset to give the goddess therapy while spending the night with her.
>>140446 >If she reacts, I win >If she doesn't react, I win You've got a really optimistic worldview, huh?
>>140445 It is very weird to see someone that isn't me calling foxwives stinky. Neat
>>139817 >BW Remake Why would they remake they least popular gen, when they could bundle the first couple together and sell it full price without remaking anything?
>>140423 Still debating where and when to pick up Suzuka on the chain, but since she’s is a faker she doesn’t have one of those anyway. >>140446 Have you considered just being immune to curses? Or not having a heart? >>140447 My first thought on reading that CYOA back in the day was “If I carved out my heart for you, how much time will it give you?” Because fundamentally I’d see her life as having more value than my own. So expending mine to sustain hers would be a better use of it than anything else I’d ever do with it.
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goodnight frens
>>140457 Sleep well friend
>>140456 >So expending mine to sustain hers The only problem I see with that is that the wording of her request implies she's intentionally letting herself pass. She's already been forgotten for awhile. She'd definitely outright reject your sacrificing your life for her
>>140417 This one is specifically for the Hart Wardens/Fianna. >abandoned the White Howlers to their fate, despite the Howlers' plan being the exact kind of bullheaded warrior nonsense they're into The Hart Wardens were right there. The Glass Walkers and Silver Fangs were on Rome's side. The Red Talons don't like humans anyway, Roman or Pictish. The Ghost Council, Galestalkers, Stargazers, Get of Fenris, Shadow Lords and Silent Striders were all elsewhere. The Children of Gaia, Bone Gnawers, and Black Furies all had reasons to go help, but their Caerns likely weren't concentrated nearby. The logistics may have been all the excuse they needed to sit out. The Hart Wardens were. Right. There.
>>140459 Yeah, that’s the thing. My life and death is something I’d be willing to offer, but at the same time that’s not what she’d want, and I can’t really justify forcing that onto her, knowing the kind of guilt she’d feel. And it’s not like she’ll be any more liable to save herself given the additional time, if she couldn’t manage it when she still had the will to live she won’t be able to do it after the first person she speaks to in a while kills themself for her. ‘course, in the context of Jumpchain, that does leave you with the possibility of going back and saving her, unless it’s like, a fixed point on your timeline that can’t be changed. Which would fit the tone of the CYOA admittedly, even if it’s a real downer. …does make me wonder what’d happen if you managed to start a cult worshiping her after she died.
>>140457 Goodnight. >pic This creature truly is my spirit animal.
>>140417 >Murdered the only changing breed built to purify Wyrm taint They didn't JUST do that. They also tortured them to death when captured.
>(S-Rank): ??? >(A-Rank): ??? >(B-Rank): Candelydra >(C-Rank): Giant Salamandle >(D-Rank): Grandle >(E-Rank): Ceremonial Candle >(F-Rank): Candle
>>140464 >Candelydra What's that?
>>140464 What is a star but a giant candle?
>>140463 I can still hear the wails in the most recent Hunter the Parenting episode, so I can imagine what that'd sound like. What the fuck is wrong with the Garou.
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>>140417 Haha.
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>>140465 Something like this. >>140466 Would be a lot funnier to go towards if I went down the fire route when I first started.
>>140468 I repeat. What the fuck is wrong with the Garou?
>>140465 >>140469 The wordplay being candelabra + hydra, to note.
>>140469 That's a cool design.
>>140465 Presumably a candle hydra. In which case >>140464 Salamander, Hydra the next step is Dragon. A-Rank Candlagon? Candragon? Dracandle? Not sure what comes after dragon.
>>140472 Yeh yeh, one of the only cool candle monsters I found looking around. Might progress into a Chandelydra (bigger, more heads) or a Thousandle (gigantic massive of wax and burning wicks) from there, unsure. >>140473 Oh yeah, a Dragandle would probably be the third possible choice now that you bring them up.
>>140470 Every night, in another universe, an Uratha wakes up in a cold sweat from a vision-dream of their life in another world, and who they would have been.
>>140450 So, do we have any clue how she’d react to someone who to her senses seems human, but just no-sells her psychic curse shenanigans? Or how she’d view nonhumans generally for that matter?
>>140475 Considering what the Garou are like, maybe the Lunars over in Exalted got off easy with just being useless.
>>140469 Once you start the Hydra theme the only way forward is larger size and more heads. A rank will have 5 heads and S rank will have 9 Heads.
>>140477 All Lunars have to worry about is not having a large impact on the setting and hoping that their Mate isn't a massive asshole/is willing to hold off on trying to render all unto Oblivion/will retain some humanity while apotheosizing into an eldritch abomination.
>>140478 I think you're right, but now the question is if Chandelydra is the A or S rank, and what's the other one?
>>140464 Weird Candle Ophanim. The outer rings are brass candle holders facing inwards, the wax layer further in forms some mass of holy iconography orbiting a hollow, and in the center of it is the single candleflame.
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>>140456 >Still debating where and when to pick up Suzuka on the chain You should get her from Generic Ankomen
I have the idea of a Wolf Lunar in ExVsWoD briefly getting picked up by the Garou only to be told something to the tune of 'sorry, but fuck off' when they realized they aren't a Garou. Then one of them tries to hunt them down for 'garou reasons' and while trying to murder one of the Lunar's new friends cause that friend to Exalt as a Solar, dying to the fresh Solar because Solar. The Solar is Jumper.
>>140484 Make it an Infernal instead of a Solar because of their association with Banes/the Wyrm, just to piss off the Garou more.
>>140477 Lunars started off with a lot of RARGH BARBARISM SMASH in 1e because of the Garou carried over, but have subsequently shed more and more of it with each successive edition. It’s a rare case of two negatives making a positive. Pigeonholing Lunar Elders as basically anime midbosses in 2e while younger Lunars can be, well, actual wandering adventurers gave Lunars more agency than the Garou ever had. And while I have my issues with the fact that the Silver Pact’s war with the Realm is sort of ingrained into their very Exaltation, I do appreciate at the very least that they’ve made very clear Lunars can and have taken positions on civilisation other than “smash it”. In fact, several younger Lunars have been turned off from following an Elder altogether by their bickering. The fact that Lunars occasionally get to fend off invading eldritch horrors at all is proof Lunars contribute more to Creation than Garou ever did to Gaia.
>>140484 Krakoa moment.
>>140482 That would be an Ophandle, amd would have been really good if I stuck to the holy route.
>>140484 Sounds fun, go for it.
>>140486 I have just been struck with the thought that the Garou behave like Abyssal Lunars.
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Could an Exalted lift a mountain without using Charms?
I just realised Jadeborn are better Alchemcials and that's sad.
>>140491 "Charm" is just a shorthand for "Wacky thing they learned to do using their Essence," which encompasses both single-activation techniques that expend energy, and permanent changes to their bodies and what they're able to do. So no, because "Being able to lift a mountain," would categorically be a Charm.
>>140492 I don't see any jadeborn turning into giant robots with laser eyes.
>>140492 What? You're comparing a Fae to an Exalt, yeah the Fae gets better starting stats and cool charms, but having an Exaltation is always better.
>>140496 I don't even think they're Fae anymore, they've been recycled into coherent beings with individual souls.
>>140497 They have been changed, yes, but they still are Fae in a sense
>>140495 Jadeborn get not only Alchemical charms up to E3, which are most of them and almost all of the useful ones, but they also get their own splat specific charms which can be developed up to E10, something no Alchemical can get unless they become a city. >>140496 What benefits do you believe Alchemcials have over Jadeborn? They have worse stats, both starting and capped, and they only have a handful of charms exclusive to themselves. They can't cultivate their Exaltations to be as powerful as a Jadeborn unless they become a Colossus or a city which means their charms are also limited. They get Sorcery I guess?
>>140483 We don’t have that.
>>140491 No, even if he had strength 10 he couldn't lift a mountain, without using essence he can't provide the appropriate leverage.
>>140492 …their souls are corroded as a result of the Geas, anon. Better is a. Unique. Interpretation of them. Especially when they cannot turn into giant robots. >>140491 Theoretically an Exalt could invent some sort of Craft: Genesis procedure to give themself like 100 Strength in game terms then give the ST a headache by asking to lift a mountain. At which point, depending on how one interprets 3e’s guideline about the Solar (and ONLY the Solar; Lunars and Abyssals explicitly do not have this problem in 3e for equivocal Charms. Potentially because the dreamlike power of Luna and the bleak curses of the Deathlords supersedes Creational physics, most likely because the developers realised they the shit out of things but don’t dare take the L and apply errata to the edition they claimed would not need errata) potentially needing to deal with things like a heavy object breaking apart in their hands. OR sticks to the looser mechanics of the older editions and just assume that if you have Mt. Mostoth numbers you can do Mt. Mostoth things. The Solar can maybe left the mountain. …the problem is any sensible Solar would go “wait a minute, this would be MUCH more efficient and easier to accomplish by inventing a new Charm instead!”. Hell, the Unconquered Sun is the perfect example of how the entire setting revolves around using Charms to bypass statchecks instead of doing it the hard way. He’s supposed to be the literal embodiment of perfection, and his statline has much less than infinite stats. BUT, his Charm Perfection Beyond Imagining simply lets his stats arbitrarily scale towards direct or indirect opposition unless he suppresses Conviction. >>140499 >benefits Excellencies. Six of the damn things, and two extra Attribute upgraders. Never underestimate what a good Excellency can bring to the table for heroically accomplishing the relevant endeavours under it’s purview. The ability to wreck a Magnitude 3+ unit efficiently. The ability to strap a goddamn Mega Man-style shockwave cannon to their arm and blow off someone’s face. EXALTED-LEVEL COMPETENCY AT THE CRAFT SYSTEM which is effectively the do-anything system once you’ve learned enough about a given Craft. Man/God-Machine Protocols (read: techno-Sorcery). Fast Bashing/Lethal healing, which can be upgraded to deal with Shaping effects and benefit others. Running on vertical surfaces. FLIGHT. Mind control spikes. Essence siphoning spikes. Spirit-killing spikes. Thousandfold Courtesan Calculations, which is EXACTLY what it sounds like. An invisibility cloak. Instantly learning languages. A functional equivalent of Craftsmen Need No Tools that can be further upgraded so mundane items are automatically Exceptional, and to work on medical procedures as well. The ability to assimilate and instantly comprehend all uses of an artifact. Punching spirits. Repelling the Wyld. Learning Celestial Martial Arts. Also I would argue turning into a city is objectively superior than remaining a Jadeborn.
>>140476 >So, do we have any clue how she’d react to someone who to her senses seems human, but just no-sells her psychic curse shenanigans? Would probably target everyone around them instead after a little while. >Or how she’d view nonhumans generally for that matter? Given the Ring vs the Grudge? She'd treat them as competition and try to off them.
>>140457 Night, anon.
>>140467 >What the fuck is wrong with the Garou. Made by Gaia to be her fangs and greatest soldiers. But Gaia didn't do an ounce of beta-testing or understood that the retarded murder-weapons would need a control mechanism, so when they went off the reserve and ruined everything, she had zero means of keeping them in line.
>>140502 Even degraded by the Geas they are still better. Plus breaking it is a great hook for a game. As for the charms literally almost all of those are E3 or below and can be implanted in a Jadeborn. The only thing they are explicitly barred from are the machine weaving protocols. Shit's fucked and that's why I'm sad. I like the robo boys and girls but they got fucked over.
>>140501 Actually the whole ambiguity of leverage vs vague heroic lore feats could simply be solved by the Solar also stacking a shitton of giant mutations, like with the one solar circle spell that just inflicts a big well of !FUN! mutations
>>140506 >As for the charms literally almost all of those are E3 or below and can be implanted in a Jadeborn Ah, but the issue is that Alchemicals can actually learn them while Jadeborn must depend on handouts- >Shit's fucked and that's why I'm sad. I like the robo boys and girls but they got fucked …yeah, alright, fair enough. Those vats are kinda cumbersome. Speaking of things getting fucked, every new mention of 3e Infernals being on the cusp of kickstarter-ready is filling me with impotent rage and frustration that the developers seem to be wilfully ignoring everything that made people want to play the splat in the first place in order to try to tell a story about misguided retribution that’s a lot less clever and nuanced than they think it is.
>>140509 Wiz bigly
>>140509 Success!
>>140509 You've gotten a Wiz, she even comes with a free Yunyun you forgot about until she came up to you three jumps later!
>>140505 Nobody has ever done any kind of beta-testing in the history of oWoD, God himself unilaterally decided to go on some kind of murder-suicide-tantrum that will (allegedly) make happy days come back again if and when humanity decides as a whole to willingly undergo ego death and/or give back all the divine power scattered to it so God can reform. All of this happened because God was afraid of the dark, even though the dark is objectively kinder and less prone to inflicting suffering on humanity to prove some kind of perverse lesson about loving your abuser that would make Preacher’s God go “Hold on, things have gone a bit too far”
Why didn’t Dante simply Royal Guard away Urizen’s attacks? What is this mystical anti-Royal Guard tech?
>>140514 The mythical and terrible technique of Cutscene Power.
>>140514 The only thing more powerful than Cutscene Dante is Early-Game Cutscene Vergil.
Do bards in 3.5 have permanent shapeshifting magic without becoming sublime chords? I'm considering being a mascot in tome of radiance, but I don't want to stay as an animal. I might become a sublime chord anyway, as I plan to take the absolute purity drawback, but I still want to know.
>>140516 Hey, he kept his cutscene power for quite a while in 3. He casually killed Beowulf more than halfway through the game and it was only after his second fight with Dante that his cutscene power started to diminish.
>>140515 The really weird part to me was all it took was a single sword gut-shove to powerup enough to spank Urizen into next week. Implying the powergap wasn’t actually that big or that it wasn’t as easy as Urizen made it look slouching on his big dumb probably highly uncomfortable chair. >>140516 Vergil kept his cutscene power for both the cutscenes and the gameplay of V’s main story though, he was only weak in the flashbacks.
>>140519 >>140520 I didn't say he was weak, just implied he was weaker than Cutscene Dante. Dante always tends towards overtaking him towards the end of the games, though it's always cutting close.
>>140517 Bards don't have shapeshifting at all in 3.5e? I think the closest they've got is Alter Self.
>>140521 Alright but I still stand by V breaking the trend by starting strong and consistently getting stronger up to the end of V, to the point where he seems to be the strongest entity there (at least in terms of stamina) by the end of the game. And given how nobody has heard from DMC in years, the franchise. That’s how DMC ends. Vergil winning forever.
>>140522 Ok, I don't remember who had wich spells. Then I guess I will go for sublime chord, if I'm a mascot.
Finally had a chance to look at that FUCKIN Starmie. That shit’s so goofy-ass looking it’s giving me a warm, fuzzy feeling on the inside. That shit makes me think Nintendo genuinely doesn’t understand why people actually like Pokemon. But to be fair, that was apparent when they didn’t just withhold Fat Pikachu from the people, but lock it behind Gigantamax.
>>140523 Adi Shankar.
>>140526 …so yes, Vergil wins forever now that Dante is morally wrong for killing the immi-I mean, demons now.
>(S-Rank): ??? >(A-Rank): ??? >(B-Rank): ??? >(C-Rank): ??? >(D-Rank): Consecrated Quartermaster >(E-Rank): Temple Chandler >(F-Rank): Chandler I think my Job progression basically goes the way of holy production class. Later progression involves relic creation? Rough timeline; I think levels 1-15 for me involve scraping by and surviving in a lord's manor before eventually making a break for a nearby temple dedicated to Prahmix. Levels 16-30 involve my cannibalizing of the temple's higher quality candles, my promotion to Temple Chandler, my evolution into a Ceremonial Candle, and both the god Prahmix and his believers discovering me. This is good and bad for me as Prahmix's love is intense and involves testing in the form of trials so that he may witness human potential, which extends to me, as he can see my human soul. Levels 30-45 involve me being "granted" to a hero for some great trial or quest into a dangerous, monster infested wilderness because this is exactly the kind of thing that gets you in the good graces of Prahmix's people and Prahmix deliberately gave his blessing despite me rather not wanting to go there, but only Prahmix and his little soot sprites know that I'm more than an object. And, with Prahmix's love of ordeals, any attempts to fireball the clerics or the hero to get out of this are taken with a laugh and a shrug as his testing. Off into the wilderness I go trying to keep this guy alive and murdering monsters with fire and wire. I'm fucking lost during fuck face's adventure, I evolve into a Grandle which is a big candle with stronger magic, and now I need to hurry and kill shit to evolve into something that can survive without a steady supply of new candles to cannibalize.
>>140525 What starmie? And fuck nintendo for so many reasons, I miss fat pikachu.
>>140529 The one running around on it’s hilariously/disturbingly human legs, like a particularly abstract Soulsborne boss.
>>140529 >Starmie: Its movements have become more humanlike. Whether it’s simply trying to communicate or wants to supplant humanity is unclear.
>>140528 You were Mr. Candles. You will not be again.
>>140525 >>140530 >>140531 I really thought Mega Starmie was irredeemable until I saw it move, but I have a soft spot in my heart for spectacular stupid amd seeing that motherfucker run is inspired. Who fucking thought of that?
>>140532 I don't know what that means.
>>140534 Do not pursue the name of Mr. Eaten.
>>140535 Oh, you’re a Londoner too? What choices have you made during Firmament? Fuck Maximilian. I don’t even like the duchess that way and he exudes wannabe NTR energy.
>>140533 Yeah that is basically my reaction, it’s so stupid it rolls right back around to entertaining for me. Yes, the whole game is cheapass and Nintendo is Arasaka but with better PR, but the beeg Starmie is a fantastic use of free will.
>>140536 Haven't played in years, honestly.
>>140538 Oh, dang. FL is a rare case where a thing I previously enjoyed has sorta gone downhill, but enough of the setting’s charm and pizzazz is preserved that I don’t foresee myself giving it up. It helps that basically every other game like it can’t even come close to competing. There are many things I could nitpick, but I’m still having fun. You’re right to stay away though, the grind is a maelstrom that will suck you in and never spit you out. Especially now it’s become clear that 312.5 echo items are essentially keys to unlock vital story content.
>>140537 Consequently I haven't been able to get a great look at the others, though I have seen small pics, and I don't think I like a lot of what I was seeing. Scrafty got parting shot which is currently my silver lining but what I was seeing for some of my favorites looked not great.
>Finally reading through Mummy 2e >The relationship between the mummies and the Judges is not so much retconned as…recontextualised >Yes, the Judges are still cruel proto-demonic arbiters and reapers of Sekhem, but there also seems to be some genuine sense of duty about why they do what they do >One avenges lies of all kinds for example, another brings low the prideful, a third ensures there are consequences for crimes against reality itself >Moreover 2e frames the Judge-Mummy relationship as almost like an Incarna and it’s Exalted and less like the Mummy is just a Sekhem >There’s a new Utterance where with an exceptional success, the summoned avatar of a Judge will do the Mummy an extra favour >In the example play campaign, with another exceptional success a Judge can unironically tell a PC mummy that they’ve always been the Judge’s favourite Huh. I don’t hate it. Like, they’re still monsters and all, but it’s kind of neat that they genuinely seem to see themselves as PRINCIPLED monsters.
>>140541 >One of the bonus options on an Exceptional Success is being told you're the best That's actually fucking hilarious.
>>140541 Wait is WOD actually getting new content?
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>>140543 CofD? Technically, but it’s coming out like spilt jam in winter. The most recent thing I know of is the Beast supplement I posted a while back. Mummy 2e came out in 2021, I just haven’t had a chance to read it until now because I was told it got basically nothing in terms of supplements. But now I’m bored and ahead of everyone else in my office again and have nothing to do, so here I am. >>140542 >”Who’s a cute little damned strip of mortal jerky, broken with every turn of the Sothic wheel?” >”Who’s my favourite undying minion that I brutally interrogate but KINDLY and MORE GRACIOUSLY than all the other undead slaves under my command?!” >”You are!!”
>>140408 >An Emperor's Blade appears. Do not listen to illiterates on /vg/, for they lack reading comprehension. Nice >Also, apparently taking Holy Fool means that you just kind of do this whenever you walk somewhere. What? So you just apply a fucking Kazdel filter to everywhere you go?
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>>140545 >What? So you just apply a fucking Kazdel filter to everywhere you go? The Yurodstvo is appropriately weird and even kind of in the way I wanted but I wish they were weirder/went harder on it. Just walking somewhere seems to paint over the place with spooky vibes, but only sometimes. It isn't known if they suppress it most of the time while pretending to be normalish, or if they just fuck with people's heads once they've noticed them to make them think everything is normal (we know this one does happen on at least some level).
I thought wod mummies were basically undead heroes made of the fused souls of the recently dead and a former mummy being given a second chance at life to do good deeds?
>>140548 WoD and CofD are different settings, but people sometimes call both WoD which adds to the confusion for people who aren't familiar with both.
>>140547 >The Yurodstvo is appropriately weird and even kind of in the way I wanted but I wish they were weirder/went harder on it. Just walking somewhere seems to paint over the place with spooky vibes, but only sometimes. It isn't known if they suppress it most of the time while pretending to be normalish, or if they just fuck with people's heads once they've noticed them to make them think everything is normal (we know this one does happen on at least some level). Does it seem like what they do with the surroundings is permanent? Because scrubbing eldritch paint from the fabric of reality seems like a pain in the ass. But they do look really fucking cool tho.
>>140550 Okay, so turning everything red isn't permanent, but there's a thing where traces of Collapsal corruption are used to roughly track its location, EXCEPT that might be because of a wounded/maybe killed EB (the emergence of the Yurodstvo being tied to it in a weird way), so hard to say. >But they do look really fucking cool tho. They look like whoever you expect.
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>>140454 >Why would they remake they least popular gen, when they could bundle the first couple together and sell it full price without remaking anything? Turn out they don’t want to remake it due to doing such a shit job with BDSP.
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I really need to stop collecting traumatized girls with immense world-rending psychic powers fueled by their fear/trauma.
>>140553 You should keep collecting them, you’re not using them like mere items or putting them through even more pain, so that makes you already far better than 90% of the people they have came across that are not victims.
>>140554 Yeah but it's tiring fighting through a hell dimension and killing incarnated Super Satan every time I give them a therapy session.
>>140517 Have you considered just getting a Pathfinder greater Hat fo Disguise which lets you stay In a humanoid form as long as you wear it? As long as you have alter self and a magic item crafting feat you could also easily make it in about two weeks.
>>140555 Your newfound daughters should take up the mantle of being the “therapist” then. It’ll probably go quicker if they still manage to reach such height of becoming their old selves without losing control. Still keep some for of protection around you just in case the newest girl decides to go for the throat
>>140556 I don't really know pathfinder, so I will confess I didn't think of it (crafting in D&D is pretty annoying), and I also thought of simply searching someone to transform me, but probably I will still go for the sublime chord way, as I would prefer something more permanent. I will read your suggestion tho, as a temporary solution if nothing else.
>>140551 >Okay, so turning everything red isn't permanent, but there's a thing where traces of Collapsal corruption are used to roughly track its location, EXCEPT that might be because of a wounded/maybe killed EB (the emergence of the Yurodstvo being tied to it in a weird way), so hard to say. Shit like this is why I love the whole adding perks to the custom tribe thing so much. Like, just imagine a whole ass race with a bunch of collapsal perks. Terra would be a minor inconvenience away from someone crashing out and letting THEM in. >They look like whoever you expect So what I'm hearing is that I can theoretically gaslight myself into expecting a Hot hag? Is that what you're saying?
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>>140559 >So what I'm hearing is that I can theoretically gaslight myself into expecting a Hot hag? Is that what you're saying? Kind of, yeah.
>>140558 pathfinder is pretty close to 3.5. The main relevant thing here is that alter self was changed to always turn the user into a humanoid rather than be based on the original type. Also creating magic items is almost identical but without the xp cost. Anyway, I found this list of ways to change shape in 3.5 https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?647033 of those not much would be relevant to a bard though, maybe the Ninja Spy prestige class which bards can easily qualify for, but it doesn't advance any bard abilities.
I like to imagine I had the option of becoming a Humandle at level 60 but deliberately chose not to do that in hopes of getting Prahmix to fuck off. Maybe one of the other gods will throw me a bone after they see a consumable survive the "aggressively kills you with giant bugs" forest. What are some other gods that might be down with fire and humans? I had Fane of Scales as a god that did stuff with light, order, balance, karma, curses, that sort of stuff had the idea of him shining light on one's deeds rendering consequences or whatever. Given the situation back in the day it's likely the fire court gods are either crazy or of incredible integrity. Any ideas?
>>140562 Prometheus? Dude literally created humanity out of clay and eventually gave them Fire to use as a tool against the will of other gods.
>>140562 Hestia for the same myth as prometheus
>>140526 Nobody considers that shit DMC.
>>140563 Prahmix was partially based on Prometheus in the first place; gave humans fire magic, which also introduced magic as a whole thing to mortals, and then the other gods had to sit down and bitch at each other and work something out for a fucking while to put things back into equilibrium because too many other gods were like "No we can't just kill all the humans" which is how this generic isekai world ended up with much more magic and also the local System limit capping things. It was a whole thing. >>140564 Hestia analogue I can do. Goddess of the hearth, hospitality, offerings, and general nice things everyone likes. Goddess of "sit down and have a bit of cocoa sweetie." I shall name the goddess "Quillette of Warmth" and make her the rest stops to Prahmix's adventure.
>>140565 Castlevania s1 was very good. Why did shit got so bad?
>>140548 That's oWoD Mummies, who are the best. nWoD Mummies are slaves to the depraved law jannies.
>>140568 Also victims(?) of dubious WW balancing where they got a bunch of mid disciplines and then gigachad Speech powers that are basically 3-4 mage spheres backed into one discipline.
>>140569 >and then gigachad Speech powers that are basically 3-4 mage spheres backed into one discipline. Oh, so that's why Big D is so good at talking to people despite being a rambling fucking schizo on his best days.
>>140570 Is this Hunter the parenting thing? It is having a popularity spike for some reason. Anyway, strictly speaking, it is more of language thing, but same difference.
>>140541 Shard stop falling for Judge propaganda.
>>140572 Its not propaganda. It is meaningful positive interactions for antisocial sacrofagi dwellers.
>>140560 Hear me out-
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>>140574 anon no

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Paladin / Monk hybrid. For when you want to Smite Evil by way of Lay on Hands.
>>140155 Also late to this but that's the cheap way, the lazy way, the slopgirl way. Yes, you could. But then you run into the logistical problems of tardwrangling multiple spirits of the required Arcana potency when if you'd put in the work, you could be custom-tailoring your monstergirls with rotes shaped by your exact specifications instead of relying on some deranged egregore who throws a hissy fit if you force it to make anything other than ushi-onis. >>140572 I'm NOT unless you're implying 2e itself is written by the Judges, I'm expressing surprise that they're the "Yasha trust me bro farming all of humanity like cattle is the only way to save the world" kind of villain and not the self-aware kind of moustache-twiddling sociopaths. The Judges have literally no reason to pretend at righteousness and still literally give handouts to mummies they deem sufficiently rule-abiding.
>>140575 Anon yes Just look - look at them. Wearing these sultry dvd discs on their outfit. They're asking for it.
>>140579 The disks are weird but they seem to taken from the outfit of a little girl whose grandma it was skinwalkering, who wore them as a hair accessory.
>>140576 Swordboy is obviously a weird swiftblade offshot.
>>140580 I'm not sure what's more fucked up - the whole skin walker thing or the fact that someone who was not a eldritch abomination was unironically wearing those dvd disks.
>>140582 They were actually a cute little hair accessory on the little bear girl. This thing is weird.
>>140567 They decided not to follow the games anymore & do their own thing
Gold Gold Adventure Gold seems pretty fun. May or may not consider making a jump for it after I've gotten a bit deeper into it, not putting it in my list just yet. Context: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3133650/Gold_Gold_Adventure_Gold/
>>140585 Reminds me of Kairosoft's Dungeon Village, or the old Majesty A Fantasy Kingdom Sim
>>140583 >Side effects of collapsal corruption include death, undeath and dressing like you rolled around in the trash and left whatever got stuck in you.
>>140587 You shouldn't have put it that way because that actually makes sense.
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Dark side waifus are just so much hotter that light siders, it sucks that the dark side is such a corrupting dick head of a thing. Do any Star Wars jumps besides the one that is super far off in the past, even before the old republic, have any perks to to no-sell/not be corrupted by the dark side?
>>140589 The bounty hunter jump has a perk against damage to appearance from dark side corruption but no actual resistance.
>>140588 >Yurodstvo: "Every morning I roll around in a pile of trash so I can start the day with a fresh outfit."
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>>140578 >you could be custom-tailoring your monstergirls with rotes shaped by your exact specifications instead of relying on some deranged egregore who throws a hissy fit if you force it to make anything other than ushi-onis But i like onis...
>>140155 Of all the Ephemeral Entities that mages can create, spirits are the ones that explicitly aren't blindly loyal to their creators. Spirits are interesting and cool and I often find myself going with Thyrsus solely to deal with spirits and the Shadow, but they are metaphysically dickheads and pieces of shit.
It's gonna take a fucking while before I obtain real animation that doesn't require some kind of fucking... weird skill magic finesse to skitter around like the world's slowest fucking spider, but like, once I do I can finally use my Base of Operations. I don't think I'll be able to easily enter normal fucking cities without causing a scene as I would be made up of various inorganic substances and also fire, but do you guys want me to try and look for souvenirs or whatever while I'm in this weird fantasy world? I got time.
>>140561 Thank you.
>>140593 >but they are metaphysically dickheads and pieces of shit I would to quality this for those of us who may not necessarily be up to date with the nWoD cosmology: The default method for spirits to grow in power and influence is cannibalism. This trait is completely normalised among them, from the nastiest rape spirit to the most benign spirit of love. Similarly, the first and only priority of all spirits is to perpetuate their domains so they can feed off them; that love spirit I mentioned could well engineered loads of awful relationships because it feeds off LOVE, not necessarily healthy or sustainable love. The least insecure spirits also tend to be the ones with the most immutable and pervasive domains...like death. Or, well, inevitability. This naturally tends to those spirits being domineeringly tyrannical at worst, and ineffably polite but unwise to fuck with at best. The rest of the spirit world is a rabid dog eat dog world in which quarter is neither shown nor given, and even the most sentient spirit will seldom turn down an opportunity to advance it's domain at the expense of everything and everyone around it. There's a reason why Daddy Woof had to rip and tear to enforce his rule back when Pangaea was a thing.
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>>140594 Yes you should try, a city should bring tons of opportunities for you to be carried around like a toy in Toy Story. Not to mention given the scope of your form in comparison to the area you’ll be in, you’ll probably also have a higher chance of finding some “junk” that’s been abandoned for you to reshape into treasure.
>>140596 Don't forget that from amongst the broad category of "spirits" sometimes particularly fucked up abominations arise/descend. Remember those spirits of concepts that no longer exist? Remember what happens when a spirit embodying the emptiness of space slips through to the planet? So many FUN things to learn about and try to exploit/replicate.
>>140594 Consider going into smoke manipulation/solidification so you can have a substance you can easily control and use to manipulate the environment or even use to move around.
>>140598 Honestly it's impressive that Abyssal intruders, the Idigam and Lower Depths entities manage to somehow be even worse, given how awful the baseline for spirits is. Also yet another reason why the Uratha are morally superior to the Garou is the fact that they fight off THE ALIEN SPIRIT AMALGAMATION EQUIVALENT OF BEACHING WHALES crashlanding on Earth and spewing spirits gone completely batshit insane from the concept-less depths of space everywhere. Going to nWoD will teach you that appeasing spirits is bullshit, and that you have to eat at least 4 people to get some goddamn respect (unless you have a supernatural power that gives you automatic spirit ranks, which basically forces spirits to respect you by metaphysically denoting yourself as a spirit peer of high rank)
What the fuck, how did I miss that Pathfinder Skybourne jump.
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>>140553 No, you need to adopt more ad teach them to love life and be happy.
>>140600 I love that the werewolves in these games fight aliens. I really do love that.
>>140589 >2nd pic kylo ren on the belt buckle
>>140589 The purple eye tattoo ruins Blackfire.
>>140604 CANT UNSEEEE
>>140606 REN'ED
>>140606 Yoda on Starfire boob.
>>140608 That's just a reflection tho.
>>140609 Isn't the Ren also a reflection?
>>140600 >Going to nWoD will teach you that- What about oWoD?
>>140610 That one looks drawn.
>>140611 Going to oWoD will teach you that God is somehow even more psychotically obsessive for your praise and vindictively callous than even in SMT. Especially if your name is Cain. Oh, and that Oblivion is unironically a sweet kindly old grandmother.
>>140612 ...etched. Whatver.
>>140613 >Oh, and that Oblivion is unironically a sweet kindly old grandmother With space dementia.
I had a xianxia dream for once. I was reincarnated into xianxia pre-school and even there there was plotting and had to find an Old Monster to teach me and sabotage the Young Masters birthday with a cursed blood scroll present. Whats the most fun Xianxia jump to start a chain with that isn't Generic Xianxia?
>>140616 Xianxia.
>>140616 lee sigh Sect?
>>140616 How about World of Cultivation? It's cultivation supposedly caps out at mountain breaking levels, so it won't ruin your chain's powerscaling too quickly
>>140616 I like Jingoraku, not really Xianxia but close enough.
>>140620 Jigokuraku. It is like, 1/3th of a step away from people in-universe figuring out immortality.
>>140597 I'm gonna be too big by that point for that sort of thing, but okay, I'll try to keep on the lookout for junk regardless. >>140599 Sadly I think I classed out of that given church candles are usually made with finer materials that don't produce smoke.
Been thinking about how OP Kuma fruit from One Piece is. He could easily be some form of bizarre cultivator by pushing sunlight into a plant, making the plant grow and push the lifeforce out of the plant and into him for longevity/power gains.
>>140619 Murim type stuff then? >>140620 >>140621 NTA but i've been meaning to read this for awhile now, I even downloaded the entire CBZ of all the volumes after hearing how the animation of the anime didn't match the manga's visuals at all like Sakamoto Days, how is it?
>Bye Sweet Carole If I had a penny for every videogame about a socially shunned young woman's coming of age dealing with an ominous otherworld populated by monsters that embody her psychological hangups, I'd have two pennies. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened one month after the other, and in the same type of media.
>>140623 It has limits necessarily, or he would have simply pushed Bonney's illness out of her. From what we saw he can push only suffering and memories, when it's about conceptual things
>>140624 Generic murim beeeeeeeen ouuut since somee months agos >>140624 No iddeea I didn't really like it
>>140626 The limits of the fruit depends on the user. It can be correct to assume Kuma never saw his fruit in a more scientific context. There's no logic in he being able to push something as conceptual as wounds but not capable of pushing a disease from a body.
>>140628 There isn't particular logic in the chop-chop being able to float as long as the legs are on the ground either, or in Kuma being able to send you flying between islands but leaving you unharmed. You play your jumpchain as you prefer, I'm just saying I wouldn't give one of the most broken fruits additional powers like that, even if I agree that it would make sense, at least not without awakening.
>>140624 >NTA but i've been meaning to read this for awhile now, I even downloaded the entire CBZ of all the volumes after hearing how the animation of the anime didn't match the manga's visuals at all like Sakamoto Days, how is it? I liked it, it got a conclusive ending and isn't overly long so it already got an advanage over a lot of shonen in my opinion, it got a comprehensive power system, cool fights, decent character designs and a generally easy to follow plot. It still got some faults of the genre like annoying death fake outs and making character unnecessarily young I'd say it's a generally decent read even if it doesn't excel at anything in particular. Like I read it over the course of a few days and enjoyed it well enough.
>>140623 From what vegapunk said it pushes away nervous signals, normally to push pain and with his help memories
>>140629 I simply presume you gotta be really really good to do bullshit like this. And maybe with a perk you can do it, otherwise it is like trying to improve on olympic medalist's results.
>>140628 I think it only pushes pain, not wounds
>>140625 Admittedly, whilst I HATE that kind of stupid plot twist where it's "all shit in her mind", I kinda like how it's done here because OTHER characters mention seeing the same shit as Lana - people turning into rabbits or literal tar blobs, the 'breach' that summoned Mr. Kyn, the whole thing where Baesie saves her from DeWitt and the latter can /explicitly/ see the former, etc. Even Mr. Kyn says he was less created wholesale by Lana and was more "evoked" by her trauma and despair over Carole's death and her desire to freeze all of time forever as a consequence. He even further suggests he's been called many things, which wouldnt make sense if he didnt exist until she came about. There's a clear supernatural undercurrent and world here going on in the background of this early 20th century setting. Unfortunately the fact that the game is more focused on suffragettes and ordinary human exploitation of the environment and others means these supernatural elements will never be properly explored as they deserve.
Since I still have time to kill until Halloween, I'm going to get back to fluffing my other WIPs. Which one of these seem the most Halloween-y? On the off-chance I have the time to finish up two, which of these seems the second-most Halloween-y? >RIN - Daughters of Mnemosyne >Amateur Surgeon >NeverDead >Hitman
>>140635 NeverDead.
>>140635 NeverDead is most. 2nd place is Hitman, with the caveat that you zoom in on the more Halloween elements of it. Then, I guess Amateur Surgeon?
>>140634 >>140636 Oh yeah, I should've added "and deliberately introduces ambiguity into whether the supernatural elements are just in the protagonist's head or not, to an unusually mysterious degree" to the comparison list. Despite being the more overtly, in your face feminist game I actually enjoyed the overall experience of this game more than Silent Hill F. The horror and allegories work a lot better when everything is more puzzle-focused than it is combat-focused. Also
>>140625 I watched an LP of that game and came away thoroughly disappointed. The core ideas seemed good but the gamplay sucked ass and the story was just disjointed and weird in ways I'm positive were not intended. Major spoilers as I talk about my criticisms obviously. The magic bullshit being real was somehow a detractor for me because it's only really acknowledged once, meaning everywhere else characters are severely underreacting or not acknowledging it. The bullies also got redeemed way too fast aside from the one protag talked with in the bathroom. The other three needed something to not just be shit. The Disney artstyle and aesthetics for a horror game inspired by clocktower sounded really interesting in theory but it doesn't really feel like they did anything interesting with it. The game is just not scary and the only part they do that seemed cool from that perspective at all was when the fake girl screams for help, falls from the stairway, and seemingly breaks her back over the railing.
>>140571 It is indeed Hunter The Parenting.
>>140625 >>140640 They also really backloaded that fucking plot.
>>140640 Honestly fair, I just think of it as the indie horror game version of Asura's Wrath: Decent movie to watch, not as nice to play.
>>140624 It’s alright despite its flaws. Decent action and character design as well as an alright ending.
>>140643 Just the plot alone it's not bad and I had investment. I have my gripes but they're mostly down to the gameplay being really monotonous and boring and fucking with the pacing of things.
>>140640 >The magic bullshit being real was somehow a detractor for me because it's only really acknowledged once, meaning everywhere else characters are severely underreacting or not acknowledging it. I admit them not under-reacting to it wasn't great, but I prefer that infinitely better to "she was actually a SCHIZO hallucinating EVERYTHING and there were never any threats at ALL because she's MENTALLY ILL" like literally any other game would have done. It was a pleasant surprise for them to in any way acknowledge the eldritch time-warping tar monster trying to eat the material world as a real tangible threat to people's lives. I will admit though that they DID kind of fail to truly address the fact that, y'know, there's an eldritch god of tar that wants to eat the world instead of just going on about women's suffrage. Priorities, people. >The game is just not scary Horror games don't necessarily need this to be horror, Bee. They just need the atmosphere and tone. Even then, these were the Remothered devs so I wasn't necessarily expecting much to begin with. That the game was any good at all is a miracle.
>>140647 To be fair, the gameplay being monotonous as fuck is entirely in-line with a Clock Tower-like. I think 3 was the only CT game that tried to change the formula up even a little and it was violently shat on for it.
Tai Chi Master 1.2 - New Origin, Perk Tree and Item list Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1.1 - Criminal Venture and Hand Clan item added, small changes
>>140649 Oh man, this would be such a good opportunity to make a low effort shitpost about how CLEARLY the intended takeaway was for woman's suffrage to magically banish the eldritch tar god because the eldritch tar god was clearly also the patriarchy all along, if I was a culture war shitposter. Even though uh, he doesn't really end up being a metaphor for anything. He's literally just a spooky eldritch tar god
>>140589 Rebels has >[600cp, Discounted for Neutral] The One In The Middle Where the Jedi wield the Ashla and the Sith wield the Bogan, the Bendu claims to sit between them, and draws from both sources of power. You have learned how to walk this middle path in all things. Now, you can safely wield conflicting powers or sources of energy, and simultaneously utilise techniques that require entirely different philosophies or states of mind. Somehow, this is achieved without any loss of efficacy beyond the opportunity cost of devoting your full time and attention to one particular style. and while not exaclty what you want Darth Bane has >Strength in Unity 600 CP - Lord Kaan has found the way forward for the Sith, a way past the constant ruinous cycle of their past. Through an acknowledgment of one’s peers being just so, the new Sith remain allied and focused on threats outside their order. You’ve not only understood the wisdom of this union between stability and the Dark Side, but can spread it to other organisations you belong to. This unification of people is incredibly resilient, promoting loyalty and ultimate purpose within the group. Over time your side will become impenetrable, like cortosis against the uncoordinated strikes of your adversaries. I forget why this was never added to our drive even though it was posted in the /tg/ thread when it was first created. I think there was like two minor issues that'd be completely ignored with the modern day atmosphere in Jumpchain but there so unnoticable to me that I couldn't say what they were
>>140653 It's honestly kind of funny how Kyn has absolutely nothing to do with the women's suffrage plot. In fact, I don't think he even acknowledges it at any point - dude is completely focused on first eating Corolla then eating our own world. The most you can say is that his physical form is based on that one guy who took Lana away after her mom died, but it's so clearly exaggerated that it's less that he's a metaphor for that guy and more like he just took the most traumatic memory from her mind and wore it like a coat. You've just really gotta respect a horror villain who clearly barges in on a separate more psychological horror story and goes "Metaphors? Subtlety? I just want to eat people and corrupt worlds".
>>140654 The last time I read a Darth Bane jump it had the student origin, which explicitly notes you JUST learned to tap into the Force, give you a perk for grandmastery in ALL LIGHSABER STYLES. Bit dissonant with itself.
>>140649 Ultimately I agree with you, in that I do want more games to just say "Yes, the magic is real." I just don't like how in this one there's plenty of scenes and moments where characters are just sorta shrugging things off like they aren't actually happening because it makes the "it's all in her head" angle seem much more plausible and supported. The one girl flipping her fucking shit about suddenly being a rabbit and asking the now too-accustomed protagonist what the fuck they were talking about with the ribbons and shit was pretty good but there should have been more of that if the protagonist is essentially a reality warper who has conjured a malevolent bastard monster man out of her grief. It ended up feeling disconnected as a result instead of one cohesive story. The main mystery and then also this weird monster bullshit on the side. I liked the mystery and the women's suffrage stuff more because Mr.Kyn was basically vagueposting in the back the whole time! We never see or even get a vague idea of what Carolla is supposed to be like, which I care a lot more about when it's apparently fucking real. >Horror games don't necessarily need this to be horror, Bee. They just need the atmosphere and tone. Even then, these were the Remothered devs so I wasn't necessarily expecting much to begin with. That the game was any good at all is a miracle. I mean I guess? It hardly even feels spooky though. It's mostly just uncomfortable especially whenever the lord guy is around. I liked when doll man helped make him look bad. >>140650 Yeah like I guess but it doesn't redeem it in my opinion. It might capture the vibe but those combat boss fights are abominations and so is the dance minigame.
>>140656 So it does, never noticed that before.
>>140657 Fair points, Bee. I think they really wanted to have their cake and eat it too, but just refused to commit to the whole "it was all in her head" bit (for good reason) so it comes across as very divided at times. >I liked the mystery and the women's suffrage stuff more because Mr.Kyn was basically vagueposting in the back the whole time! That's unfortunately a thing most eldritch monsters do in these types of games. They vaguepost and schizobabble like motherfuckers and you just have to hope that a good sequel comes out to expound on what the fuck they were talking about. >spoiler The closest we get is the final conversation with Mr. Kyn before Lana accepts hanging the kingdom over to him, where the kingdom MIGHT be seen through the storm in the background - where it's shaped like the whale from Moby Dick which might mean Lana based it on Carole's love for the story. >It's mostly just uncomfortable That is also a feeling horror, good or bad, is meant to evoke however. I will agree that DeWitt was incredibly scummy though.
>>140653 Yeah, nah he's just an asshole. He's not even the most sexist or racist character in the plot somehow which is wild to me. Zero metaphor, honestly amusing if not confusing. >>140655 Yeah I think the extent to which he acknowledges it at all is that he keeps bringing up how the protagonist fucked everything up with her denial and inability to let go and commands the owl she associates with her part in what happened to Carol. He otherwise doesn't really give a shit at all about the grooming school teaching girls that their only aspirations in life are to impress and marry rich old men. You would think he'd be all over that for trauma fueling purposes but nah.
>>140652 >Tai Chi Master Might want to draw reference to the upgrade in Shaolin Training [Free] and change it to be [Free, 400] almost missed the upgrade when skimming this
>>140661 Done!
>>140662 Are you going to watch its sequel Tai Chi Boxer?
>>140663 The sequel is trash. I'm probably making a Shaolin Soccer jump next when i have the time.
Good night pals
>>140665 Good night WoL
>>140665 Good night
>>140659 >Fair points, Bee. I think they really wanted to have their cake and eat it too, but just refused to commit to the whole "it was all in her head" bit (for good reason) so it comes across as very divided at times. Honestly, yeah, feels like it had a bit of an issue with ambition and maybe should have drawn it back a bit. >That's unfortunately a thing most eldritch monsters do in these types of games. They vaguepost and schizobabble like motherfuckers and you just have to hope that a good sequel comes out to expound on what the fuck they were talking about. I guess there is room for that. The talk about how Mr.Kyn is part of Lana's imagination, a manifestation of her trauma, and how he'll never really go away means they could continue to follow Lana during the lowest moments of her life whenever she becomes vulnerable enough for Mr.Kyn to creep back in. That could be cool. >spoiler That does seem to support that Carolla and Carol are basically synonymous as Lana's safe space. >>140665 Night dude.
>>140660 There's also the fact that at no point does Kyn ever seem to really give a shit about any of the other human characters. Like, he's aware they exist, they themselves can see his influence and his corruption turns them into bunnies or tar all the same but that seems more a consequence of his presence here than something he's actively doing. He doesn't even really seem to care about Baesie and mostly treats him as an obstacle to killing/corrupting Lana. Outside of these two exceptions, he interacts with no one else but Lana. Which makes sense, given she's literally the only thing that has any power to stop him. But you'd think he'd be trying to pit the humans against each other more. Or using his powers to send them into the far future or far past to just remove anyone who could support Lana.
>>140669 I guess part of it is essentially that this is the way he's "designed" for lack of a better term. He's Lana's monster, Lana's grief, Lana's tormenter; Mr.Kyn is focused on Lana for pragmatic reasons, but also because his entire role is to fuck with her, so he hyper focuses on her because Lana herself isn't thinking about much else but drowning in grief.
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>>140671 On the same day someone makes a Hunter the Parenting jump: probably never.
>>140673 There is a jump for that, actually.
>>140674 Really? Can you give me the link?
>>140674 The orange. It burns.
>>140675 Be careful what you wish for.
>>140665 Night, WoL. >>140668 >>140670 The weird thing is that Kyn specifically tells Lana on their first encounter that she "evoked" him; that's the word he uses. "Evoke", as though he already existed and she just summoned him into material reality through the Breach. Given Lana seems to have (sadly unexplored) reality warping powers, how Kyn seems to be Time as much as he is her despair and grief (the numerous clock motifs up to Kyn taking the form of a blazing clock face when Lana is time-travrling or during the final boss battle prior to his second phase, etc) and how he says he "has many names" - it's likely that Kyn always exists as an immaterial presence, but it takes exceptional psychics like Lana to summon him into reality through their grief, guilt, and trauma in order for him to take a physical form. Which comes at the cost that he has to rely on the framework this trauma gives him but he has limited autonomy within it. Presumably, killing Lana would free him from the restrictions of 'just' being her personal monster but we have no idea what form this would take beyond likely being bad for the rest of us.
>>140675 SB jump
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My jumper is gonna summon Scheherazade in Fate Zero. Is anyone here familiar with more obscure stuff from 1001 Nights that could be useful to have her create? I mostly know the famous stuff like >the rings, lamps, bottles that can contain and bind spirits like Djinn >The Magic Carpet that teleports the user wherever they want >The Ivory Tube that lets the person looking through it see wherever they want >The enchanted apple that heals whoever smells it >The Ebony Horse automaton that can fly at immense speed Anyone know anything else that might be useful?
>>140679 he's fast
>>140635 NeverDead for sure. Boy it sure was easy to die in that game about not being able to die.
>>140683 >tfw rolling about as a head only to get sucked into a Grand Baby's maw Hate those little shits.
>>140665 Good night and sleep well.
>>140624 Woc is full on xianxia its just that the top powerlevel of the strongest guy at the end has the mc creating a canyon with his big attack Though the "lore" has past sects being much more powerful its not really shown. Just some characters talking about old sects from their ruins and relics.
>>140678 There were several peculiar things like that. Like, towards the end, Lana deliberately says that she made Mr.Kyn which contradicts his earlier statements. Supporting that Mr.Kyn might also be an independent entity is the fact that in her last conversation with Baesie the term "spirits" was used to describe both himself and the other inhabitants of Carolla which is strange and specific. In the last cutscene when Carol is seen riding away with Baesie on the back of the whale, is that literally her spirit riding away into that fantastical kingdom? As for the time themes I thought that might have been because of Lana more than Kyn himself since she also has time powers and her grief is in some ways heavily associated with imagery of the kite stuck in the hands of the clocktower. The tar and smoke I associated more with Kyn specifically since that didn't seem to have direct analogues in Lana's grief unless it was about the bomb blasted garden.
>>140687 Silent Hill is a great game, but boy oh boy, do I hate how introduced "it's trauma!" handwave into writing mainstream.
>>140671 After we get All Weebs Go To Heaven.
>>140635 In Generic Isekai, if I use a discount on something that has a built in discount I’ve earned, does the option become free, or can I not stack discounts?
Which harem protagonists would be top tier waifus if they were, either retroactively or actively, gender-bent during the course of a chain?
>>140691 Rance.
>>140692 NO!!!
Is the fact Wakanda is a hyper-nationalist isolationist racial purist country treated as a good or bad thing in the comics?
>>140687 The bit with Baesie on the whale with Carole notably has even Amanda react a bit, implying she's seeing the exact same thing. So it probably was her actual soul traveling with him. >>140688 Between it and Jacob's Ladder, the horror genre definitely took a big hit in terms of writing quality overall.
>>140695 Bad, T'Challa being more open with the outside world puts him at odds with the elders and shit.
>>140694 Evil diabolical anon, turning Rance into a meek housewife with no will to fight!
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>>140697 Why does every fictional country always have "the council of dickhead old guys"?
>>140695 Sometimes good, sometimes bad. But from the point of view of the Wakandans and their council it's always good. I think they get called out on it every so often it because comics are woke as fuck these days it's done less so than it once was. Even then it wasn't done very often, I can vaguely remenber it being done twice, once by Magneto and a second by Stark iirc. Maybe one other time by Doom and one more by SHIELD but thats all I can dredge up although I couldn't claim to be a major comic aficionado
>>140700 because you have to keep the comic world somewhat recognizable if you want to keep that shit going for the next century. Otherwise you get a modern world that freely uses super tech and magic, with things like amazons, aliens and atlanteans being just regular people living among everyone else, which ends up with stories that interesting but not really familiar.
>>140690 You can't stack discounts. You have to choose between one or the other.
>>140700 Art imitates reality.
>>140703 Noted.
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Keeping with the WoD talk, Mr. Kyn is basically just a particularly powerful and nasty Idigam or really powerful Wyrm spirit.
Does anyone have a list of ecchi high school anime jumps? Also what is your favorite ecchi high school anime jumps? Also which group of would you prefer to be in your class if you had to go to one such jump? (Based on just looks for that last one, I know the second one is from an actual anime))
The recent Eyes of Wakanda show actually established that Humanity in the MCU would have gotten wiped out if T'Challa hadn't started the process of sharing their tech and vibranium with the rest of the World. We literally see the future where Isolationist Wakanda stayed in hiding as the rest of the world got destroyed and then were unable to defend themselves against the aliens by themselves.
>>140695 They are evil for not giving all of their gold and financial system to the World Bank. They would have been pacified long ago if their backwater savage tech didn't fight or the IRS collectors
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Are there any jumps that offer a modeling agency item? Surprisingly neither Career Model or Idolmaster have that as an option.
>>140707 The only high school echo jumps off the top of my head are >Rosario + Vampire >Girls Bravo >DearS >High School of the Dead >Ranma 1/2 What is my favorite? Girls Bravo
You don't get a chain but you gain schizophrenic delusions so strong you fully perceive yourself as on a chain to a level indistinguishable from actually being on one
>>140707 >pic 5 >gyaru is a busty slut but only into vanilla nice
>>140714 I don't care if god shows up in person to tell me how I just got a pass into heaven. I am pressing X to Doubt that shit.
Which of these do people think would make a better cover image for NeverDead?
>>140718 I like the middle the most but the one on the left is the one I most associate with Never Dead.
>>140719 (me) >Left Meant the one on the right.
>>140718 Is the guy stabbing through his own foot in the first image? Anyway, image 3 is the more action oriented one, so it gets my vote.
What are some times jumper has gone full dad mode on people that were not his kids? The older the other person the better.
>>140718 I like the middle the best tbh
>>140721 Yep. The central gimmick of the game is that the MC is absurd levels of immortal. So the protagonist is constantly getting mutilated or blown to pieces for one reason or another.
>>140679 >>140680 I maintain that Hunter the parenting should be a gauntlet in the same vein as Exalted Mortal Heroes, silly shenanigans included.
>>140718 Number 3 for me.
>>140718 The right one, otherwise whichever one is the lowest file size
I think after talking to a friend, my C-Rank Job Evo might by like a third option type decision. You know how with class tree systems there's usually "Here's the normal option, a twist option, and then this weird third thing" ? I'm going with the weird third thing because of circumstances and becoming a Pyre Druid. Was talking with friend about trying to do something with the outdoors while being a holy production class, and he was like "isn't mixing religion and nature basically a druid" amd like usual when I'm listening to him I thought "genius" but a lot of my production class stuff has to do with wax, oils, fibers, metals, which tend to all flow back to fire. Thus, Pyre Druid. I think to make sense of this with my setting lore, druids would essentially be an "independent" type of divine/holy class compared to others which would generally borrow strength/themes from a specific deity, because the world itself is a big deal divine construct of the oldest deities which even the current reigning gods don't fuck with lightly.
>>140728 I'm more used to D&D Druids, where they gain power directly from the kind of nature they serve, so seeing one that gets power from gods is pretty weird
Hey Psycho, I'm sorry for bullying your Watamote fanfic Jump idea a few months back. I didn't say anything until now because I was worried that apologizing months after the fact would seem even more insincere than saying nothing at all, but it's really been bugging me ever since how that whole interaction went down.
>>140718 Center/2 if you're doing black background, right/3 if you aren't. Left/1 probably sets the tone better than right, but might not be the best foot to lead with for sites where the PDF has an image preview. It's fine to me, but I remember that one anon who was rattled by the covers for Uratarou/Pygmalian. >>140707 >what is your favorite ecchi high school anime jump? Highschool DxD. Plenty of waifus/random shit to do if you don't care about the plot, and gives a decent chance at the means to do it. Granted, I haven't looked at some of the newer dupes for other relevant settings so there might be something there I missed. Series-wise I'd say it's probably closer to either Sekirei or Queen's Blade just going by nonsense one could get up to there and overall presence of waifus. >which group of would you prefer to be in your class if you had to go to one such jump? Of those; group 3. It's the only other one that doesn't look like I wouldn't actively ignore/avoid most of them because of generally shitty personalities and might not be dedicated to a harem protag known to be present given the spread compared to 2 who all come from Testament. <list of ecchi high school anime jumps? >Ikkitousen >Shinmai Maou no Testament >Ushiro Ichiban Daimao >Oregairu >Eiken >Senran Kagura >Ayakashi Triangle >Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs >Queen's Blade (if you take the toggle) >Girlchan in Paradise (?) Maybe some stuff like Kill la Kill, Infinite Stratos, Omamori Himari, and Prison School depending on your exact cutoff.
>>140728 Consider going with being a Beeswax candle(which were typically used by churches) and then you can involve a further bee theme into your druidsm, like maybe even controlling hives of bees and being able to have them produce bee wax to heal you or capture enemies and general things like that
>>140729 It's basically semantics. These druids do get their power from nature, it's just that nature is a divine construct so the class has more in common with something like a cleric than a wizard.
>>140731 >list of ecchi high school anime jumps? Prison School Jump
>>140732 Yeah I'm strongly considering such a thing, especially because once I realized the direction I was going with my class, I instantly became excited to progress into something with Wickerman themes.
>>140735 Wickerman priest that lobs out lesser flaming wax bee familiars that use their bodies to incapacitate & get you enemies stuck against surfaces/other targets is certainly a unique form of combat
>>140736 I dunno, dots and debuffs definitely sounds like a very me way to fight when I have the option.
>>140737 It is & you should capitalize on it! Sorry if I came off as condescending, the idea popped up in my head & all I could think of was a Wickerman that fashioned their wax parts into a mix of priestly robes, some armor, & a terrifying amount of holes that was fashioned to resemble the holes of the Paris catacombs. Some of the holes having wax bees waiting to be animated with flame, others deeper ones have items you’ve been carrying around. The idea wouldn’t leave my mind.
What is ExE and how does it relate to DxD?
>>140625 Unrelated but that reminds me of What Remains of Edith Finch for some reason. I ended up fucking hating that game. It's the equivalent of playing through the first Red Dead Redemption but right before you encounter Dutch again at the height of your immersion it skips to Jack looking at John's grave and you find out John got killed by Edgar Ross but then the game ends without Jack growing up and finally killing Edgar Ross to avenge John. It's a half-finished mess that can't even be a proper walking simulator.
>>140739 It's the sequal, weird alien robot gods invade and you find out Issei is actually like the apostle of the alien boob goddess and shes the one whos been powering him up shonen style all along
>>140473 Celestial Dragandle. Like one of these but replace the star patterns with a sun, or instead of the smoky ethereal one you're on fire.
>>140739 It's a dimension close by that is being invaded by alien robots and losing until the Boob Goddess hears Issei's fervant love of boobs and connects to their dimension.
>>140738 No, no, that was said in the tone of casual conversation. I took no offense nor believed any was intended. I was more just indicating that it sounded like a good time to me. My foundations in Generic Isekai are production class stuff, so I think eventually having magic that lets me make a bunch of fire themed golems would be really cool. I myself am eventually gonna be something like a hydra made up of fire, wick, wax, and metal. I can imagine carrying some metal hive on my back to carry around my bee golems to deploy as needed.
>>140568 Technically at least one sect or whatever of oWoD are law jannies. The rest just kinda get to hang out with no obligations and be immortal.
>>140741 That's funny because if you say that shit won't happen in your chain, issei will fucking die early on. Which is always a good thing.
>>140707 Honestly the second one. The fifth is a runner up but I only like maybe two or three of the girls from it. The other three have too many titty monsters.
S-Rank Evolution concept; Ghidrandle.
>>140746 I'm quite sure a second great war happens if you don't have issei and his protagonist luck to deal with many of the insane hawks seeking to ressurrect the war again. But well, if you are going to DxD you certainly aren't going as a first time jumper, so that's not a problem, probably.
How would the Emperor feel if one of his kids went out and gathered up the rest of his kids before he did?
>>140750 He's going to think its a chaos plot, which is going to make him extremely paranoid. He wouldn't dish out violence at first, but he certainly would make sure the kid is far away from his plans as possible.
>>140748 How goes Street Fighter?
>>140750 Approving of their efficiency maybe providing nothing else is wrong. Big E is extremely uncaring and focused on his own goals of which the Primarchs were predominantly tools. Mutants? Extremely invasive modification? Warp fuckery? Didn't give a shit. His son Angron had brain implants making him unholy fuck angry forever, and despite knowing about the chaos god of fucking 3,000,000,000% blood pissing wrath, he just kinda let Angron do his thing. One of his kids got all the others together and already got their loyalty and shit? Cool, sweet, whatever, back to the plan.
>>140753 Paused from disgust, though the docs are open as a perpetual reminder so I'll likely get around to fixing it eventually.
>>140719 >>140720 What do you mean left and right? They're all piled on top of each other
>>140755 >disgust ?
>>140757 Basically my most recent doc for the Jump fucking disappeared into the aether, so I have to go about a long, drawn out process of recreating it that will involve heavy reformatting, and I discovered this after attempting to update it with a random option someone requested. I will eventually fix things and add that one option but it is very frustrating.
>>140756 >mobilefagging
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What are your favorite non-generic humanoid fictional species/races? Things less ubiquitous than elves, dwarves, vampires, demons, white guy aliens etc
>>140761 Moogle
>>140761 For my hentai monster jumper I basically just stole Merkava's whole look from Under Night in Birth. Note that the spoiler-ed has got his wang out
>>140764 Man, Merkava's design is cool as fuck. I know nothing about that game's lore but I know I would definitely use that noodly arm motherfucker's form.
>>140761 I do find Zeltrons pretty cool as a race. Empathic, has pheromones and a fun culture of hedonism and parties.
>>140718 Vedalkens from Magic: the Gathering, but specifically the variant from Mirrodin/New Phyrexia. Just something about that specific flavor of weirdness with their extra arms is neat to me. According to the Unfinity set there might be a similar strain in Bablovia now, assuming they didn't make another joke plane. Though other mutations they seem to have across some other planes like the extra finger for Kaladesh's strain or slightly different skull shape for Esper's makes me wonder if there's more one could do with their base genome to make even weirder blue men for the group.
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>>140761 Victors from Busou Renkin. They're FAR from the most powerful species fitting that criteria, but they tick several of my very specific boxes in terms of style. >Dark skin, red eyes, and bright hair combo >Replacing organs with things that are not organs >Being so absurdly powerful that just being near them threatens the life of weaker beings >Get a cool magic weapon on top of all that
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Question: how hard would it be for a NWoD Mage to make a YuGiOh Deck that ACTUALLY summons monsters when played/used correctly?
>>140671 Probably not for a while yet, because there's still a couple episodes to go. Supposedly, the Christmas episode is going to shed light on what life is like for humans who aren't Psycho Warriors.
>>140769 I assume it's like when you summon a monster but you're holding a card while you're doing it.
>>140769 You'll need Spirit 4, to summon spirits into the material world and to bind them to physical objects
>>140769 Monsters exactly like the ones on the card? Very. They'd need a fuckton of spheres at high levels to pull that off. But if you just want magic attack dogs attached to cards then see >>140772
>>140773 >Monsters exactly like the ones on the card? Very. They'd need a fuckton of spheres at high levels to pull that off. You'll specifically just need Spirit 5 if you want to summon monsters exactly like the cards, since Spirit 5 lets you reshape the powers and fundamental nature of spirits
>>140774 Some Yugioh monsters can get really bullshit. To pull that off for ANY card would either need high Spirit Achmastery, or a bunch of other spheres of at least 5 to help mimic their powers and effects.
>>140464 S-Rank - Torch-Dragon
>>140776 YuGiOh cards specifically don't get that bullshit though. It's just the extreme outliers that get anything above building destroying Even then, you don't need archmastery to reach that level? Canonically low level spirits can work together to outright rewrite reality on a temporary level
>>140771 >>140772 >>140773 >>140774 >>140776 Thank you. ...Could a Mummy do it?
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>>140761 You posted them
In Old World of Darkness would a Nasuverse Divine Spirit just register as a normal spirit of whatever their Authority is, or more akin to the icon-gods of the Umbra?
>>140774 >>140776 What would an effect like "return the target to the deck" even look like outside of a cardgame context?
>>140783 Probably an essence draining effect? Removing their store of essence and forcing them to return back to the card to recover.
>>140784 I was thinking more about what'd happen if you used it on just some guy on the street.
>>140782 Depending on how swole the Divine Spirit and how much jobbing you allow in you stories. You could swing it either way.
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>>140777 >Torch-Dragon Going by anon's Candlydra calling it a Dragonce would be punnier, but it would probably feel like it has less oomph technically despite being than just the torch.
>>140787 ...That said, I am not sure if it could happen before dipping into elder powers. Technically, I think they are allowed Linear Sorcery so they could do it with Conveyance at 5 Dots, which is like, little babby version of correspondence + space.
>>140789 Conveyance and Nomenclature, that is. Or just godlike levels of nomenclature.
>>140777 >>140788 Yamatandle no Torochi
>>140789 >>140790 Explain words?
I need to look into what being an OWoD Mage and Demon would look like.
>>140785 Yeets them back to their base of operations/residence such that they would be transported a distance away from where the effect activated in order to simulate being resummoned?
>>140779 They'd need to call in a Judge for their favor, but yes.
>>140792 uhhhhh how autistic you want this to be?
>>140793 For an OWoD mage: a lot of resource management. For a Demon: i don't know, who the hell played or read Demon in the first place?
>>140795 So given everything I've heard about Judges being No Fun Allowed Incarnate, near negative chances of it happening. >>140796 I know VAGUELY how Mages work, and have No Fucking Clue how Mummies work. Please go into exhaustive detail, assuming you don't get exhausted explaining all this.
>>140797 >read Demon in the first place Me. I think they are neat.
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>>140798 Okay, let me get some choco into me, then I'll do some explanation about teh bandaged people.
>>140793 Being a demon involves having to set up a cult and making deals with humans
>>140800 Get that choco, anon! And some actual chocolate as well.
>>140801 I know, I more mean like the confused screaming from being both.
>>140793 oWoD mage depends on your tradition, Demon also depends but its basically trying to fit in human society as an alien
>>140803 Ohhh, you meant being a hybrid of the two. You'd basically instantly hit Archmage levels, since the Demon's main gimmick is remembering the secrets to rewrite reality and Mage's whole progression path is them slowly realizing they're reality warpers.
>>140778 It's weird. Going by the average summon in the anime itself that holds up, but it might be a Nasuverse situation where the Duel Spirit summoned versions are scaled down compared to their true/lore versions since over in the monthly shorts it feels like most of the 2-tribute/material monster worth playing could easily bust up a fort if left to the task.
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All shall fear the lobster riding mage god jumper.
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What is a piece of media that is at most a 6 or 7/10 that you'd like a jump for? For me it's Ben-To.
>>140808 The conveniently placed antlion of the boiling butter tar pits cares not for the rider, their steed shall serve as a good enough feast
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>>140761 MGE Wendigo. Being a smol girl in a fluffy coat appeals to me, and having a big strong and protective husband that likes to tie me up and fuck me in public to show me off and rub it into other people's faces is hot as fuck
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>>140809 Fallen Enchantress. It's not the best Master of Magic clone, but I still love the genre.
>>140201 >someone actually saying how strong Ovelord is instead of seething about it with wojak posts A welcome surprise.
>>140809 The Tick and Freakazoid. I have no idea how to balance his powers.
>>140695 Squirrel girl think it's bad, now you know every important opinion, except for Spiderman '
>>140761 I like inklings and octlings. But living planets are just awesome.
>>140809 SSS-Rank Paladin, slop Solo Level-like manhua.
>>140793 might actually just turn you back into an oWoD Angel
Which YuGiOh jump will let me get magic to make my own Millennium Items, Duel Monsters, and the like?
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What tier of species do you think would be appropriate for a Fate Servant in Generic Isekai? Take into consideration that things like Class abilities and noble phantasms, would be sperate purchases of the Job tier, experience and equipment tiers. This basically being for the basic servant physiology like not needing food or sleep, having a body made out of mana that restores any damage over time as long as the spiritual core is not too badly damaged, being immune to mundane attacks, being able to slightly power up by consuming souls and being able to enter spirit mode at will. Main difference here would be not needing a master and just naturally slowly replenishing mana over time, or faster by eating souls/mana crystals/certain body parts/fluids from supernatural beings.
>>140313 This got to be a stupid joke. Who the fuck designed it?
>>140552 "love and care" huh.
>>140821 C Tier or B Tier.
>>140820 I remember trying to find something like it and I couldn't find any. Some of the Wol anon jumps let you buy a custom millenium item however.
>>140809 >Ben-To Kek. This one's title (and the joke) basically translates seamlessly into English; which makes the actually spelling a bit of a letdown (spelled in katakana, so no written confirmation of the spoken pun). That being Bento (lunchbox) but also Ben-to (lit. "lunch fight") (lunch-box; as in lunch+boxing, with 'box' being the more generalized brawl from the context of now outdated slang of "Hand me a box." (challenging someone to a street fight).)
>>140820 I am pretty sure none of them has it as an option. In setting I guess you could use the normal jump, start in Anceint Egypt and try to get your hands on the Shadow Alchemy spell Aknadin managed to extract from the Millenium Spellbook and used to create the Millenium items. Though worth remembering that creating them took 99 human sacrifices.
>>140827 >Though worth remembering that creating them took 99 human sacrifices. Rookie numbers. I can easily find 999,999 acceptable human sacrifices in a modern world, wouldn't even take that long.
>>140584 And retcon themselves. And becoming lame and gayer.
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Okay, I don't actually have enough energy to go full autist here - in truth, I am kind of crashing - but we can irreverently gallop through the basics. So. Mummies. Long, long time ago, Osiris, the good guy of oWoD went "Shit, we need more good guys here" and cast a necromancy spell that produced a bunch of reincarnating immortal mages that are all supposed to be pretty chill. Then after a long nap, he woke up, saw that a lot of things happened while he was asleep and tweaked it to function a little better. Boom, pre-history is done. Osiris was a swell dude. Basically, they are a spellcaster splat with access to a bunch of special bandage babe magic powers; Nomenclature (true name magic, basically Do Everything magic), Alchemy (potions), Amulets, (wards, self-buffs, miscellania), Celestial (divination, weather, fate ninja nonsense, retcons and time manipulation) Effigy (craft Pokemon, summons, yugioh), Necromancy (Good Vibes, healing, soul, therapy, talking with your grandmother, visiting your boss). At high enough dots, powers kinda blend into each other. Particularly amulets and Alchemy kinda evolve into "Do anything" paths. Nomenclature *starts* as a "do anything" part. They got a mana-pool, of sorts, with their Mana being Sekhem; IIRC, their pools are not very impressive by numbers, but there are numerous Mage-like way to cheese that. Published Mummy powers go from 1 to 8 dots. Sort of like DnD circles. Everything from 6 and onward are "Elder" powers; very special magic nonsense. 8 dot nomenclature power, for example, is this; >Renaming the Hekau - The Amenti can rearrange the laws of a specific supernatural power, for example redefining the Discipline of a vampire or the paradigm of a mage. Which ELI5 translates as "Your magic system works the way I said it works." It is a contested effect and stuff, but that's what a swole enough mummy can get up to. Overall, they are a funny splat that could be seen as as inferior side-grade to Mage; they have inborn methods of self-resurrection, are more durable, don't need to deal with "overheat" mechanics like Paradox, but still got to pay for individual powers. They also get some special stuff for having really, really high attributes - sort of like, if they are strong enough stuff starts getting magical, if they are beautiful enough its fae charm, etc. All powers and basic actions in the system they are working in are typically success-dependent, meaning you roll your basic stats + you relevant skill, typically with a dice pools that can realistically produce 2-3 sux without cheese or godlike stats. If you roll really well, you do something extra or accomplish your goals with greater panache. They are honestly a pretty cool splat and had potential to be pretty impactful, but Mummy was never really popular so. They just kinda never became relevant to anything in the broader metaplot, as disparate and incoherent it already is. They don't have to be pseudo-egyptian waifus. Sometimes they are chinese waifus. Sometimes husbandos. They hate evil stuff, and like nice things. Sadly, they exist in a setting that is called World of Darkness. Aaaand I run out of gas.
>>140830 Helpful, though I was more interested in NWoD mummies rather than OWoD...but still, thanks!
>>140802 You can ask shard or whoever of the owod anons is awake about details or have them lambast me about p l e n t i f u l inaccuracies. Still, this should be thee broad strokes' of things. I considered explaining the mechanical side of things, but that would quickly spiral.
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>>140831 >nuwod Oh well.
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>>140761 Snek and snek subvariants.
>>140830 /do you know of any mummy waifus in general? Not WoD specific.
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Being a moon bunny in Naruto is crazy
>>140821 Depends entirely on the Servant. They run the gamut from C to A rank. I think it is possible to argue that some stand at S, but I don't think they quite make the cut, or are very debatably "Servants."
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>>140761 If I told you that I haven't really thought of an answer to that, would you believe me? I think TES' Argonians are cool, but similar sentiments extend to Chrono Trigger's Reptites and Warhammer's Lizardmen and Pathfinder's Iruxi. Lizard/dinosaur people are cool. I think Warcraft's Naga, TLoZ's Zora, One Piece's Fishmen, and Splatoon's whole thing in general are cool, but I like fish people (and mermaids) in general and they're fairly common. Even Warcraft's Draenei could be slotted into "looks like demon but not evil" with D&D's Tieflings and FFXIV's Au Ra (despite the latter being mistaken for dragons in Ishgard), so no matter what I think of, it's a specific take on a generic archetype rather than something completely original. By your parameters, as best I understand them, the best answer I can give is Homestuck's Trolls. I mean, I also think Warcraft's Trolls are cool, but outside of the name they are not at all the same thing (which seems to be a recurring theme with anything called a Troll).
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>>140830 Having it spelt out like this REALLY highlights just how fucking badly D is sandbagging and how much he's placed everyone in danger by continuing to hide certain things.
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>>140835 NTA but have you considered High Queen Khalida Neferher, Beloved of Asaph and Warrior-Queen of Lybaras? Note: offer void if you are anything even remotely vampiric.
>>140837 That's why I clarified that this is just for the basic servant physiology. All individual abilities like stats/skills/nps are handled through different purchases.
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>>140835 My brain is dead. Uhhhh I posted Neato alter already, I think. Besides that... I guess Khalida Neferner actually had flesh and looked 10/10 even in death due to divine blessings... In the old lore. She had a fun handmaiden. Theree also was Anaksosonomoon from the old Mummy movies, but she is kind of a traitorous bitch. Man, Imhotep really had it rough.
>>140840 You are a scholar and gentleman.
>>140841 Ah. Yeah, C it is.
>>140840 >>140842 Appreciated. >Imhotep really had it rough. That he did, poor guy.
>>140818 Never heard of this one. I assume it's about a SSS-rank paladin and an angel waifu.
>>140695 At this point, it’s just kind of accepted as overall morally neutral. The whole aggressively isolationist ethnostate thing is kind of seen like Namor’s many unprovoked invasions of the surface world: A charming quirk that makes the international community more interesting. >>140701 Doom doesn’t do a lot of callouts of Wakanda these days. T’challa is sort of tacitly in the same cool kids’ club as Namor and Kang of people Doom vaguely tolerates to come crash on his couch and talk shit about everyone else.
Going to sleep. Good night guys.
>>140848 G'night
>>140848 Gnight!
>>140836 Otsutsuki is manageable, if somewhat painful. A proper Kaguya build is literally impossible without either UDS or the 4000 CP chainbutt. Both make you pretty crazy in-setting, and generally.
>>140839 Since when was he a mummy?
Damnit how can I be a benevolent creator god if I want a horror movie universe world? The two are inherently at odds
>>140769 just go to generic tcg
>>140854 I have a deep and fundamental distaste for generic jumps.
>>140853 Pull a Christian god with their "it was just a prank bro" style tests with Job and Abraham
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>>140853 Look, the slashers have to go somewhere so you may as well give them their own little corner of the world where they can kill all the soulless p-zombies they like.
>>140853 Without death and suffering, life would have no value.
>>140859 That's dumb. Life is its own value, I can't do stuff I enjoy when I'm dead.
>>140859 No, it's the inverse. Without life and joy death and suffering have no value.
>>140847 Doom spends an altogether hilarious amount of time simping for Storm and Wakandans.
>>140853 So, hear me out. Jack Skellington but he's God as well as the mayor. >>140862 >Storm RIGHT, okay now that jogs some memories. Actually Storm seems to make white men and white man-coded characters simp for her on the regular, must be a secondary mutation. Too bad it doesn't work on Wakandans since her marriage with T'challa fell apart.
>>140855 Our Inscryption jump has an item that brings cards to life iirc.
>>140866 That both is what I want and is almost the opposite of what I want. But I didn't ask for jumps where this could be done. I asked if a NWoD mage could do it. And I got an answer for that. I don't need further recommendations for a thing I'm already doing.
>>140853 The devil equivalent is what creates the monsters/villains of the movies whilst you empower the final girls and the like.
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>>140867 NTA but whoa bro what got up your ass?
>>140869 lack of reading comprehension should deserve such replies
>>140861 Death and suffering have no value either way.
>>140859 Oh God, it's another faggot.
>>140871 I can make people I don't like (like myself) suffer. That's great value.
>>140761 >Trolls and Draenei from Warcraft >Turians from Mass Effect >Charr from Guild Wars >Squids and octolings from Splatoon >Dragon Kings from Exalted >Digimons >Demons from SMT >Lizardmen from Warhammer
>>140853 Be Theion. I become less and less sure of what the problem was that the Exalted had to overthrow the Primordials for the more I read about it, and not look at certain chapters of the Infernals book, but apparently something in there fit both benevolent creator god and horror movie world.
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>>140873 That doesn't give value to their suffering, you're just learning a twisted joy.
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>>140867 Go have a wank and calm down.
>>140876 Hey Ric, how's my favorite homo sapien doing?
>>140875 The 'Problem' was that the gods weren't allowed to slack off on their jobs and play the games of divinity.
>>140876 Should those that have done wrong not suffer recompense for their wrongdoings? Should the consequences of one's actions not punish said one? Should people be allowed to slam their fingers on hot stovetops and jam forks into power outlets?
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>>140879 I'm naked just as we speak >>140881 Exactly. You're wrong.
>>140875 The problem was that even before they became the Yozis, the Primordials were defined entirely by their concepts and were thus by any humanlike measure completely insane. The Gods were overworked and underappreciated for their roles in keeping Creation working at all when its own creators, THEIR own creators, repeatedly proved more of a threat to it with their various whims than the godsdamned Raksha were. Sol Incarnate and Luna could handle Raksha easily, but every time Isidoros went and flattened half of the East because that's Just What He Does, guess who had to FIX it? Remember that Autocthon, who of all the Primordials had the most humanlike mind, endured all of the rest (except MAYBE Gaia) constantly bullying him for untold eons; destroying his creations for no reason but that they could, for instance. There was only so much of this that he, and the Gods, could take. Hell, how many of the Gods, their own creations, did they crush like ants just because they could - or without even noticing? Anything short of an Incarna couldn't possibly have been safe.
>>140809 I watched a few episodes of that, remember really liking it. >>140813 I think I have that on Steam. Might need to install and play it.
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>>140836 >Character A: "These new villains are way stronger than that old villain!" >that old villain was visibly much stronger on-screen than these new villains Character statements should be disregarded immediately on principle.
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>>140851 >A proper Kaguya build is literally impossible without either UDS or the 4000 CP chainbutt. Lol, lmao even.
>>140886 What is that from?
>>140855 He called it Generic but it is basically Yugioh Abridged.
>>140882 Have you checked out Ben-To by any chance?
>>140882 >I'm naked just as we speak Based & i'm omw rn.
>>140889 Gonna be honest, I wasn't really a fan of Yugioh Abridged.
>>140851 >A proper Kaguya build is literally impossible without either UDS or the 4000 CP chainbutt. Kaguya doesn't have a single ability that isn't covered by otsutsuki + freak of nature
Which clan in naruto do you huys think would be best as a doctor clan? Or should I just make a new one? Also Im on the fence if chakra metal would make for good implants, what do you guys think? I want to use my ripperdoc stuff when there.
>>140887 Once in a Lifetime on QQ. It's about fucking your sisters. And mom. And teacher. And this random ninja chick.
>>140894 Uzumaki offshoot based on Karin
>>140894 If you wanna do actual doctor stuff, probably Hyuuga since you can see inside people.
>>140894 hyuga
>>140894 The Hyuga seem like they'd be pretty good docs between their special eyes seeing the flow of chakra and stuff, plus how they already mess with pressure points thanks to the Gentle Fist style. Gotta watch out for that swastika slave brand if you're a branch member though. That kinda blows if you're risking being born a Hyuga.
What if?
>>140900 You seem to have forgotten the back half of your sentence.
>>140894 Sharingan can see things down to a cellular level which seems like it'd be useful
>>140899 I seriously doubt the Main Clan would in any way care if you became a doctor. You're still getting branded but with an important job you probably won't be made to do too much menial shit. Your existence is 'showing the glory of the Hyuga' or whatever.
>>140899 >>140903 Great that Naruto fixed that like he said he would right?
>>140904 Why does anyone act like the things that happen in the noncanon sequel of Naruto matter? It's like complaining that Vegeta has a moustache in GT
So be a hyuuga but on the sneaky alter the tattoos to make them not actually good for anything and then one night take out the main family using a tiny bit of radioactive material uner his floorboard?
>>140901 I felt like the image was self explanintory, "what if Yujiro was genderbent?".
>>140907 despite how frequent bakiposting is not everyone knows Yujiro by sight
>>140907 Oh that's who that's supposed to be. I thought it was some kind of modern fem!Ganondorf.
>>140552 ??? I'm a little confused at the context, since they actually outsourced SDBB
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>>140890 I read the LN years ago back when imotolicious was still alive and nanodesu was translating seitokai no ichizon. >>140891 it is what it is.
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>>140900 Would she have the reverse of that thing normal Yujiro has, so instead of perceiving even other men as women due to being so much more masculine than them, she perceives even other women as men due to being so much more feminine than them?
>>140903 You ain't wrong, but the drawback of being a Hyuga compared to any other clan is that you gotta deal with the caste system bullshit, even if you are useful or talented. Uchiggas don't gotta deal with having to enslave each other because they're scared of getting their OP eyes yoinked. I mean, they had to deal with getting culled and getting discrimination, but it's not like they chose that. >>140907 I mean, it's still Yujiro at the end of the day. It wouldn't change her behavior or how much she rapes, just who. Thinking on it though, a Hanma lady would probably be able to function perfectly fine no matter what stage of pregnancy they're at, given how freakishly strong they are. So I guess imagine a pregnant Yujiro beating the shit outta Baki, giving birth standing up right after the fight, and then walking off into the sunset. Fem Yujiro might have even stronger daddy issues than the regular one, so there's that at least.
>>140890 The heck is Ben To.
I think I'm gonna try being a shota in my next chain. Specifically a manakete, so I'm going to be a shota for a loooooong time. What are some fun ways I can take advantage of this?
>>140915 Anime about poorfags beating the shit outta each other to get discount/expired bentos at night.
>>140917 That is both retarded and genius.
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>>140916 Anon, I must advise against this. Using your miniscule frame to try and get cheaper movie tickets, convention passes, whatever have you, isn't going to work the way you think it will. You might think, "ha, they'll let me in for free!" But either one of your Companions will have to play chaperone, or you'll constantly be drawing questions as to what you're doing out on your own. You will not save money this way.
>>140916 Need to do less digging for trenches.
>>140916 You and I both know exactly what you plan to do with this form, anon. Don't try and fool me.
>>140819 Unlikely to happen right away, humans are barely aware of how to use the divine power inherent in them. >>140842 >Imhotep really had it rough >Be tortured for all eternity by being mummified, infested with scarabs, and forced to be eaten alive and eat your devourers in turn in a twisted parody of the cycle of life and death >The opportunity to vent your rage on the world by bringing the apocalypse is dangled over you, presumably to give you false hope >Somehow you manage to keep your sanity intact, and the furious sadists who entombed you also brought your loyal priests with you (probably a vital emotional support pillar for a tortured immortal in a new era) >Set out to reunite with the woman you betrayed your royal duty for love who killed herself to be with you in death rather than ride the pharoah’s cock a second longer >… >EXCEPT the game is rigged because the divine forces also empower some random dudes to be Medjet: Mummy-punchers. The primary manifestation of this divine blessing seems to be plot armor; this is the only reason why I assume both Imhotep and Qin Shi Huang take so fucking long to use their magical powers on Brandon Fraser instead of just throw them around the room >Or never think to make swarms of bugs or sandstorms or whatever kill all the plucky sidekicks grabbing their books/macguffins that can undo their immortality >Through a monumental series of fuckups, you somehow lose to a dumbass 20th century man with a gun, and see your partly resurrected wife’s living corpse brutally butchered by the Pharoah’s royal guard you thought you subjugated >Through the loyalty of your cult and a miracle where your wife reincarnated as a living woman while you were still dead, you come back (but like, with less apocalypse mojo) >The same fucking adventurer party jumps you MOMENTS after you resurrect >And hounds you every step of the way to Egypt >Really at this point taking over the world is secondary to finally just settling down with the woman you love enough to restore her memory of her past self; it’s basically a pension fund >You get this brilliant idea: Hijack the Scorpion King, a legendary warrior who was also blessed and. cursed by the gods in times past. >… >EXCEPT the game is rigged. This time Anubis stops fucking around and just straight up nerfs the magical powers out of you >This seriously freaks your wife out, you ignore it because you’re HIM and you think you can still win against guys with guns, the Scorpion King and the will of the gods themselves with your pure athleticism and martial skill >You barely fight Rick to a stalemate right when the Scorpion King is unleashed, have to bend the knee immediately to avoid getting torn apart >You’ve got the Scepter of Osiris, are RIGHT about to kill the SK and gain control of his army of jackal men when FUCKING RICK grabs the spear out of thin fucking air and does the deed >It’s over >Everything’s fucked >A gaping chasm into what is presumably Hell opens under you and Rick, the presumed souls of the damned about to drag you to eternal torment >At least you still have the woman you love- >Rick’s woman braves the temple and potentially defying the gods themselves to haul him to safety even though he begs her to save herself >… >Your woman stares, horrified, at your pleas for rescue and turns her back on you >Everything you sacrificed your position, body and soul for was a lie >She never loved you, she just wanted to escape the palace and assumed you could resurrect her over and over again >You cast one last bitter smile at your old enemy before allowing yourself to be dragged into Hell >Because you’re already there. >Time passes >You’re revived as a literal saturday morning cartoon villain >Not long after your resurrection an aborted attempt to banish you to Egyptian Hell reduces you to a hideous half-living corpse >At this point you look exactly like how you feel, having completely embraced your role as a scourge on mankind >Come across your woman in a magical painting begging you to free her from eternal torment. Maybe, MAYBE you later find out despite her considerable athletic prowess she died literally tripping into a goddamn chasm full of flesh-eating scarabs. Turns out wearing a skirt to the battlefield while defying the gods themselves was a bad idea >”No way fag” >Your woman gets out anyway and proves to be as power-hungry and venal as everyone assumed you were (instead of just a man tortured out of his humanity for what you thought was true love) >You feel nothing as she ages to dust in an aborted spell >This is your existence. A punching bag for the white man, a stranger out of time, and the eternal target of the gods’ malice >The last people you respect are, ironically, the family that keeps thwarting you The moral of the Mummy movies is that the Neter take punishing NTR very, very seriously.
>>140886 I mean yeah, if you’re bringing stuff in from out of jump you can bypass the cost issue. Though, being Kaguya’s reincarnation, with all her affinities and bloodline limits, but only the amount of chakra she was born with, needing to eat the Tailed Beasts to get back to peak, does have potential from a story perspective. Especially if Zetsu doesn’t know mommy isn’t in the Moon anymore.
>>140922 Fuck it, companion Imhotep.
>>140906 Hyuuga are so retarded, isn't their thing that they just signed a peace agreement with the Cloud and then a Cloud ninja tried to steal Hinata for the eyes, they killed him and they village asked for the leader to get killed in return to get the eyes anyway so they changed with the brother so they couldn't get the eyes? I'm more suprised they just didn't attack them again because they are such pushovers.
>>140853 Make it a comedic horror movie universe. Your creation will be scary movie ad infinitum on a cosmic scale.
>>140925 The Cloud was there for a diplomatic meeting but it was actually a smokescreen to steal a Hyuga and get their kekkei genkai. The guy gets killed and he's the Raikage 's brother or some shit so to prevent a war the Cloud demanded the guy that killed the brother be killed. The leader of the Hyuga clan was gonna die but his identical twin brother offered his own life to save his brother
>>140911 >People wondered if the recent leaks showed any signs of Gen 5 remakes >Leaks at the time revealed there’s no signs of them planned for Gen 10 >updating leaks of today soon showed that Game Freak was incredibly aware that outsourcing the Gen 4 remakes to another company + a few of their staff to assist resulted in negative reception + criticism & are likely not going to rush out a Unova remake/put it through the same process as they did to Gen 4…yet. >as with everything, these are still part of the Teraleak #2 specifically GF’s plans of the future (therefore future plans could change). That should be the current context (not taking into account the budget + director bombshells of today)
>>140927 Which doesnt make any fucking sense because the fucker KIDNAPPED A CITIZEN OF YOUR VILLAGE Who the fuck cares about insulting someone if they do that shit? Kill the fucker and then demand payment for the insult they caused to you.
>>140922 >The moral of the Mummy movies is that the Neter take punishing NTR very, very seriously. I guess I'm going to need some Campione time if I'm going to try my hand at seducing Isis or Hathor.
>>140922 Would it be a kindness or a cruelty, as a love goddess, to retroactively ensure that Anck-Su-Namun genuinely loved Imhotep, and goes to rescue him from the hell-pit? 'cause I always felt that moment was really just an unnecessary gut punch, even if it did have really great pathos.
>>140912 Did the LN get more than two chapters translated for it? Because that's all I've been able to find online for it. >>140915 Ric explained it well but there are webms of it further back up in the thread from the anime.
>>140929 You have to understand that the main objective of the "Hashirama faction" of Konoha is to prevent war at all costs, including doing shit like giving away tailed beasts. If they had done that then the Cloud would've just started a war because they were looking for an excuse to do that already. Cloud always wants the smoke
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>>140932 Yeah but the group translating it lost/deleted the site so you will have to ask around if anyone backed up a copy. Not that they went too far with it anyway, it was like halfway done with vol 1. The spics also had a translation project for it, if you can read mexican
>>140885 Didn't Kaguya literally one-shot that one Otsutsuki who was supposed to be her superior, before she ever ate the Chakra Fruit? 'cause that would kinda imply that if she was punching up on her betters before she ate the planetary-scale power-up fruit, you'd think she'd just beat them all like red-headed stepchildren afterwards.
>>140933 See this is the kind of shit I will never understand. If you keep capitulating to terrorists then you will be fucked. Just go to war with the fuckers and wipe them out, use the tailed beasts, use your ninja, make a fucking chakra bomb if you need too but stop letting actual fucking terrorists get their way.
So how powerful are Shouts in Elder Scrolls lore? I know game mechanics =/= lore but I don't know to what extent they'd be useful to a jumper compared to the value of putting that CP into more magic perks.
>>140839 I don't think he's a Mummy. When Kevin asked if he was a leprechaun, he stuttered for a bit, so I think he's actually some sort of changeling or something. There's also his constant talking about and referencing to goblins and what have you
>>140936 To be entirely fair, terrorism is a tactic of last resort for those whose demands have not been met. Once they actually get what they want (which is usually for you to leave their land and stop killing and/or extorting and/or enslaving their people), they tend to settle down.
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>>140939 >Once they actually get what they want (which is usually for you to leave their land and stop killing and/or extorting and/or enslaving their people), they tend to settle down.
>>140933 I just fail to see what's the point of the peace agreement in this case, it's clear they don't give a fuck. If you are the Cloud you can just keep pushing because you either get some stuff or you can just start a war.
>>140937 Depends on three factors: the length of the Shout, your understanding of Thu'um, and the strength of your lifeforce. Someone with a deep understanding of Thu'um can stand there while you try to Fus Ro Dah them off a cliff and not even notice a breeze, simply because they understand the words-and concepts within them-to the degree that the Shout holds no power over them. Someone with enough lifeforce or understanding can Shout down castle walls where someone else could only knock a pumpkin off a cliff. Dragons get by with massive lifeforce and innate knowledge, allowing them effortless usage of the Shouts to fairly high degrees, but innate knowledge means they don't actually contemplate the words and concepts very much so they often have a far lower power ceiling than a well trained Tongue or Dragonborn. And of course, "Fus" alone is far weaker than "Fus Ro" which is weaker than "Fus Ro Dah". It's possible to make four-word Shouts, and even potentially longer, but only Miraak and Hermaeus Mora know how.
So I've got a perk that lets me build up an unlimited amount of energy and a perk that lets me expend a limitless amount of energy all at once. Is there anywhere I can get a perk to make things more effective the more energy I put into it?
>>140937 IIRC, it's unclear. The ancient Tongues used their Thu'um instead of siege weapons to bring down walls and gates, but that's kind of mundane. Strong enough Tongues could sort of teleport to wherever their shouts landed, but it's not explained further. Barfok, Maid of Planes, apparently had a Shout called Event Denoument that let her win any battle she fought. However, it is Vivec who mentions this, and he is both a known liar and vague as hell. It is said that the greatest Tongues could call people from hundreds of miles away, but this is also not explained further. Jurgen Windcaller swallowed the Shouts of seventeen other Tongues at the same time to convince them of the Way of the Voice, but this, too, is not explained further. Ysmir Wulfharth is an outlier and should not be counted, but he did use his Thu'um to restore the Nords to their proper ages after that one time Alduin ate them all down to six years old.
>>140939 No, terrorism is the primary weapon of extremists who understand fundamentally that people won't accept their demands under any circumstance less than violence. So they resort to violence first because it's the only way to push forward with their intentions. It's a tool decided to wield terror against a given populace, not against hard targets like military infrastructure, to force others to accept something that they otherwise would never deem acceptable. If you capitulate to a terrorist in any capacity, you have already lost.
>>140937 Are you looking for a big boob shout?
>>140937 The Thuum is ultimately just another kind of magic. I'd personally say go for putting your points into more magic points
>>140937 All that said, for what properly powerful Shouts can do? Rewrite the weather, revive the dead, zoom forth at hypersonic speeds, shout down castle walls, mind control anything up to and including nonsapient object and fucking dragons, guarantee death, weaken, consume lifeforce, make you invisible and insubstantial, so on and so forth. If you can think of it and find words that even vaguely resonate with the idea, you can do it with a Thu'um. And none of it actually costs you anything beyond mundane stamina and the time you spend learning how to do it. You speak words that rewrite reality in accordance with your will; the only limits it truly has is knowing the right words, understanding the underlying concepts, and your own dedication to get it right. Note; for anyone NOT a Dragonborn it could take months, years even to learn individual words. The journey to master the Thu'um is a journey of a lifetime, and even the greatest Voices can't even begin to approach a Dragon's natural breadth of grasp over the Thu'um. But they CAN get far "deeper" in understanding, to the point that even casual words of theirs are infused with their knowledge of the Thu'um and thus can shake the environment with the sheer weight of their words. Dragons, generally, can't do that. Breadth and depth; Dragons (and Dragonborn) can get immense breadth of words. But the lifetimes spent by Tongues can give immense depth of power that most Dragons never reach.
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Jumps to pick up digital waifus?
>>140949 Gravity Falls
>>140937 >Todd Howard: It's kind of what I said in the panel. "What's the order of priority?" If you saw it on the screen that's number one, that's the most truth. If you read it in the game, that's second truth. If you read it in an official thing outside the game, in the manual, that's the third. If you read it from a fan on the Internet that's way down there, that's like not on the list, right! But that's the main three. On the screen, something you see happen, regardless of what game it is or when it came out, that for us is the primary. A book in the game is second, and then a book that's official outside the game is third. Here's what Bethesda man cares about.
>>140942 Is the power of the shout intrinsic to the words or does it relate to Elder Scrolls setting metaphysics? I've often thought of shouts as "when I speak, the universe listens" and so you speak fire into existence and so on, but if you ignore the fiat backing of CP, would a Tongue who goes to another world suddenly lose their power (the universe listens but it doesn't understand what the fuck I'm saying), or is it entirely self-contained in their language and life force and such?
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>>140951 >If you saw it on the screen that's number one Wise words.
I thought up a stupid idea to get nearly infinite dp from lazy dungeon master But then I realized its just extra steps to do something I could already do. Why does this keep happening?
>One Piece has overthrown 2 governments IRL Damn, it’s not even in the final arc. >>140706 He leans closer to a Wyrm spirit than an Indigam for me. Idigam tend to lean more towards building or transforming things, even if those are very fucked up things and even if the Idigam is just an invasive species eating everything in sight. I can’t remember an Idigam who actually wants to destroy the world. >>140708 I’m actually not that surprised given that Tony’s Bleeding Edge suit (the one he fought Thanos in) seems to be based on Wakandan nanite tech. >>140761 Monstergirls. No, not MGE or MGQ (though I am becoming increasingly aware that MGQ does have the right idea and MGE at least proves my point about a monstergirl-based renewable energy paradigm shift), the Kabbalistic ones. To cut through a lot of convoluted metaphysics, they are kind of like Dark Souls humans except with the Greater Lilith (also “Lilith” may be a title or species depending on which text you’re quoting, it’s not clear) in place of the Dark Soul. >>140782 Both. A Divine Spirit is simultaneously a cache of higher dimensional data, and the elements of it that it can either be summoned as in a limited capacity (Servants, not-Servant curse things), incarnate through a living body (pseudo-Servants) or just kind of get stuck and stagnate into a big dumb monster thing (Dagon). Believe it or not this actually maps pretty well to how oWoD divinities work; in the Gehenna scenario Lilith is depicted as an effectively Elohim-level entity who happens to have a physical body, down to being able to create an avatar of sorts by feeding her blood to a girl, despite also showing up in the M20 Nephandi book as several of the icon divinities in the Qlippoth. Likewise, the whole reason why Voormas’ plan to summon the pashupatra astra works is because putting your dick in Tou Mu counts as putting your dick in Kali kinda-sorta. Ideas have a tendency to take on a life of their own and straddle different categories once they become powerful enough. Something on the scale of, say, Stheno and Euryale is probably just going to ping as a regular spirit. >>140793 >Demon Perpetual torment and bitterness.
You guys have any suggestions for defenses (magical or otherwise) for a skyscraper sized tower? Specifically where I could import it to get some kind of built in defenses?
>>140955 Yeah, I'd say Kyn is definitely closer to a Bane than Idigam thinking it over. Given the sheer range of his powers, I want to say he's like an oddly human-approximating Nexus Crawler.
>>140956 >Osiris, the good guy of oWoD
>>140956 Reread that post again. First major paragraph
>>140956 That position looks uncomfortable
>>140955 >Damn, it’s not even in the final arc. Pirates... strong! Also hi shard. I got to level 81. Hopefully this even will give me the credits I'm lacking to upgrade my girls.
>>140952 I am 90% sure it's related to Elder Scrolls metaphysics, but I can't say with 100% certainty. Shouts are basically like the cruder, more direct sibling to Tonal Architecture which only works thanks to the fact that the Elder Scrolls setting is, on a fundamental level, a song that is being sung and therefore Tonal Architecture is changing specific notes and tunes in that song to achieve specific effects. I am 100% sure that Tonal Architecture wouldn't do shit outside of the Elder Scrolls, but I can't quite say the same thing with the Thu'um because on a fundamental level the Thu'um is the Dragon Language, and Dragons are all fragments of Akatosh who is Auri-el who is the soul of Anui-El who is the soul of ANU who is half of the Godhead. So when you use the Thu'um, you're using very, very, very tiny echoes of the Godhead's own words to change reality. There MIGHT be intrinsic power to those words. Or it might be the same thing as Tonal Architecture, just using echoes of ANU's own power to adjust the "song" that is the Elder Scrolls setting rather than advanced science like the Dwemer. I'm largely of the opinion of the latter. But it COULD be the former.
>>140957 Blazblue Phaze 0 or SAO can probably turn it invincible.
I've decided that I'm going to buy a System in Gene's Generic Isekai whose only functions are Screen Capture, Voice Chat, Fork Branch, and Internet Access. Then I'm going to just send a fork of the system to EVERYONE in every setting I visit, so I'll never have to worry about internet outages again
>>140852 Running theory for whatever the hell he actually is. >>140938 If D were a Changeling, he'd probably have died of banality already just by having been near so many sources of it. Far more likely to be some flavor of Mummy, especially given the references he keeps dropping to ancient history whether Egyptian or otherwise. He apparently even knows the specific title the Rokea give to both themselves and the Wyld ("The Ageless Sons of Kun") which is something no Changeling should have any awareness of.
>>140957 Metal Wolf Chaos's Fight House perk
>>140965 You will also need screens and the abiloty to do system admin stuff to appoint moderators and build pages and such
>>140968 >Jumper's cheat power is the ability to post racist tirades without getting banned
>>140967 Always losing to a named character is a big weakness
>>140968 I absolutely won't need any of those things. Screens are an intrinsic part of the system anyways, and you don't need moderators to make websites
>>140969 >jumper makes it so whenever a certain race posts it is preceded by their name lighting up and a ceiling bird chirping loudly
>>140970 Only if you go out of your way to piss off named characters
>>140949 >Brown Dust
>>140974 Why does such a lewd game have the world's most boring name.
>>140973 I feel like the entire point of upping the defenses of a place is so you dont have to worry about some otherwise important asshole when he tries to order you around.
>>140967 >>140970 How does that work in a jump like K-On?
>>140962 Damn. Still languishing at…level 76ish, really starting to feel the sting of levelling up students where once it was easy. I guess just like in life, you need a small mountain’s worth of certificates to progress above a certain level in society unless you’re born into the ruling class (and by “the ruling class” I mean Rio, ruler of being cute) >>140957 Oh, Song Science from Ar Tonelico is perfect for this. You can build pretty much any magitech you can bullshit up as long as you can justify it with wavelengths, digitisation and resonance. >>140943 Overlord. >>140931 Oh, definitely kindness. Both of them are suffering because of their own decisions and the Egyptian gods utterly losing their shit at the Pharoah’s mistress two-timing him with his high priest. The real question is whether the gods would let them get away with that or if Anubis would just go “fuck it, I’m directly dragging you guys’ souls to the netherworld” upon seeing true love prevail. Remember, he nerfed Imhotep literally out of nowhere and he is apparently very cavalier about who actually controls his army of jackal-men.
>>140952 >>140963 And of course, it'd be impossible to confirm in-setting either way because while there's a chance that the words have intrinsic power, it's also guaranteed that they interface in a very specific way with local metaphysics to achieve their effect, and there's literally no such thing as a place free from the Godhead within the Elder Scrolls where you could try to test it so the only way you'd figure out for sure is if you try the Shouts out in a setting without song/language-based metaphysics and see what happens. Which, obviously, could never canonically happen. So you'll just have to fanwank.
>>140964 I suppose the iMmortal object could be used like that, though a skyscraper does seem to stretch the meaning of the term object.
>>140977 When you go to fight them they point out that being so obsessed with fighting is really aggressive and unhealthy, then they deescalate the situation and get you to talk about your problems.
>>140978 >Overlord. I don't remember anything like that in Overlord?
>>140975 She is contispated since she can't take off her pants.
>>140953 >the Nererevarine, sprinting across Vvardenfell at 9000 km/h to shatter his Daedric sword on the face of a Cliff Racer while simultaneously solving the disappearance of the Dwemer in 16 seconds with his 8600 intelligence:
>>140966 Counterpoint: Him being a Changeling would explain why he’s the male version of a manic pixie dream girl, is constantly trying to get himself and everyone around him high, and tries to fuck anyone who’s DtF. He’d be basically like a marathon runner sipping those drinks at stands on the trail while trucking on. The main reason I don’t actually think he’s a Changeling is because they’ve kinda dropped a few hints about it so on the nose it HAS to be a misdirect. >>140977 Mugi takes your strawberry I guess.
>>140976 Most protagonists aren't important assholes, so you'll be fine
>>140978 I forgot about that jump, a songtower is fucking huge though. I do suppose I dont need to buy the tower though, just get song science and the orgel and power them together. Would probably work well with my cyberpunk stuff too.
>>140986 No but most villains are
>>140942 >innate knowledge means they don't actually contemplate the words and concepts very much so they often have a far lower power ceiling than a well trained Tongue or Dragonborn. >But they CAN get far "deeper" in understanding, to the point that even casual words of theirs are infused with their knowledge of the Thu'um and thus can shake the environment with the sheer weight of their words. Dragons, generally, can't do that. Breadth and depth; Dragons (and Dragonborn) can get immense breadth of words. But the lifetimes spent by Tongues can give immense depth of power that most Dragons never reach. The entire reason none of the dragons even know the words to Dragonrend is because knowing the shout at all requires such a degree of contemplation with a concept that is anathema to them. The shaking the environment aspect is also called out as a lack of mastery/control. Truly accomplished Tongues don't shake the environment. Legendary Tongues are noted as facing dragons in Thu'um battles. Nothing really implies that dragons can't achieve as much depth of understanding as Tongues.
>>140988 Nah, most villains are nameless mooks
>>140989 Fair enough, my mistake.
>>140923 "Look at me, I am your mommy now."
>>140989 Dragonrend literally works by bluescreening dragons by forcing them to comprehend death
>>140978 70 upwards is where you start feeling the need for more resources to level them up. That's also where there's a small spike in exp required. >Rio Cutest autist. Millennium has some top tier girls despite everything.
>>140981 >>140985 >Fight House, 200 CP (discount Richard): upgrade one monument of your choosing into a stationary boss fight with armor plating, turrets, artillery, sandbags, minefields, trenches, and reinforced exteriors. The defenders are loyal to your justice, will hold out against any force without a named character, but will always lose to any named character. Ok but like genuinely. Lets say I take over the Statue of Liberty with this, in K-On (or Kakegurui, or Katawa Shoujo, or the doubtless many more mundane Japanese highschool IPs we have jumps for). No one in the US military is a named character in any of those, or really any military at all. Are they just going to endlessly bash their heads against a wall because there's no fucking way they'd figure out the only way to win is to recruit some random Japanese highschool students?
>>140982 It’s the caster capstone, lets you supercharge a spell with sheer magical energy.
Would it be cringe to post a spoopy WIP on Halloween if you don't have a complete jump in time?
>>140989 Man, losing a Thu’um battle to a human must be like being a British aristocrat and losing a spelling bee contest to an Asian kid.
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>>140997 So what if it is?
>>140955 Whenever a government is toppled I assume it was the CIA, so in my head there's some fed that just loves One Piece while not appreciating the irony that he's a CP0 agent irl
>>140995 Or one dumbass just shouts their name and suddenly koolaid mans through your forces cause he is Leeroy Jenkins
>>140928 >(not taking into account the budget + director bombshells of today) wait what happened? >>140955 Who else did they get besides Nepal?
>>141002 Madagascar.
>>141000 I dunno, we haven't had a Bay of Pigs in a while so I assume the CIA hasn't been doing much.
>>140949 Eclipse Phase.
>>140957 This item from Fate Zero maybe? >Ancestral Fortress- 600 >Your very own magical fortress. It might look like some luxurious palace, and it is indeed that, but make no mistakes. Nothing short of the Clocktower Queen and her personal legion would be able to penetrate this bastion of magical protection. The castle itself is already one of the largest and sturdiest in the world, with hundreds of rooms and vast grounds surrounding it but the magical protections far surpass what it offers on a physical level. Immense wards surround it in every direction for several kilometres, strong enough to prevent even expert mage hunters with great skill in taking down wards from getting in, even with years of effort. Large numbers of advanced combat familiars and homunculi prowl the grounds and the castle itself, each easily lethal enough to butcher a squad of elite soldiers, though those with magic may fare better. The castle itself is reinforced with many powerful magical effects, chief among them being reinforcement applied to every stone of the castle to make it easily able to hold up to even strong magical assaults. At the centre of it all is a fully aware and totally loyal artificial intelligence, bound in the form of a humanoid golem that will manage and direct any and all defences and affairs within the castle for you. >This can be imported into.
>>141003 are the ports still open
WIPs are progressing faster than expected. I kinda forgot how little was actually left to do. Tempted to make another reckless claim, but it'll take enough time to fully clear my backlog that I have no idea whether my interest would still hold. So I'll resist, for now. See, I can learn.
>>140996 >Caster capstone ? Overlord doesn't have a caster origin. It's got a Drop-In, Overlord, and Hero origin
>>141004 They're behind all the color revolutions, which is why they're all spearheaded by college students educated in America
>>140997 NAh, that'd be fine. It might get less feedback if there's a flood of done Jumps to also look at though.
>>140974 wtf is brown dust
>>141006 Hmmm I suppose I could style my haemonculi as nier androids and b1 battle droids. God knows I havent used them in ages.
>>141012 Probably a fart thing.
>>141012 Looks like a videogame
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>>141009 The other Overlord jump
>>140937 powerful enough that armies with lots of Thu'um users were formidable, but could still be defeated by similar sized armies of non- Thu'um users. Worth noting that even in Skyrim we se an a modern example of the Thu'um being wanked much more powerful than it is with many people claiming that Ulfric ripped apart the High King with his unrelenting force shout, but when you ask Ulfric he straight up tells you that his shout just brought the High King to his knees, so Ulfric finished him with his sword. Personally I see the Thu'um as just a useful piece of magic and users as powerful, but not inherently more powerful than strong mages. Of course you get the occasionally legendary Thu'um user accomplishing more crazy stuff, but that is not too different from the occasional notable magic users too.
>>141009 No not the vidya, the LN. >>140994 I swear everything was still fine around lv. 72, it was very specifically lv. 73 where suddenly I can’t keep doing my usual thing of making all my students strong because strength is beautiful. Maybe I underestimated how important the accumulated gibs of clearing out all those “cute girl gives you a set of missions to do every week” things were to getting myself back in the game.
>>141016 >>141018 ... What folder is it in? I don't see one in Imaged or L-P
>>140955 >Believe it or not this actually maps pretty well to how oWoD divinities work Local metaphysics are very friendly for avatar, emanation and bunrei shenanigans, understood. >Likewise, the whole reason why Voormas’ plan to summon the pashupatra astra works is because putting your dick in Tou Mu counts as putting your dick in Kali kinda-sorta. Ideas have a tendency to take on a life of their own and straddle different categories once they become powerful enough. Huh, so going in as (Space) Ishtar/Astarte Origin and then manifesting through the identities of off-shoot goddesses like Ishtar, Inanna, Astarte or Anat would be pretty normal by local standards, good to know. I assume that just existing like that wouldn't be enough to cause the local icon-deity versions of the aforementioned off-shoots to become emanations of myself, and I'd need to actively subsume them or whatever entity they're themselves derived from, correct? >>140978 >Oh, definitely kindness. Guess I'll be doing it then. >The real question is whether the gods would let them get away with that or if Anubis would just go “fuck it, I’m directly dragging you guys’ souls to the netherworld” upon seeing true love prevail. And possibly punching the Neter in the face for being dicks. You'd think if they were this petty they wouldn't have just ignored their priests being slaughtered by monks back in Roman Egypt, but I guess that pales in comparison to Pharaoh getting NTR'd.
>>140997 Better to post a WIP if that's all you can do than to break yourself trying to pump out a jump. But yeah, if there are a bunch of jumps coming out that day, don't expect to get much, if any attention. Odds are most people will just focus on a few of the jumps and ignore the rest.
>>141019 I think its in the series folder due to the guild base supplement.
>>141022 Thanks
Huh, I wonder if making my property a guild base would be worth it. That would mean going to overlord though and frankly that seems like a bad idea if Im not joining the 42
>>141024 how about just taking the territory option in Generic Isekai? It can be uses for a structure instead of a a large swathe of land.
>>141025 Nowhere near enough cp for that and the system I want to buuld. Thanks though.
>>141018 >“cute girl gives you a set of missions to do every week” Oh yeah, once you stop getting those freebies the pace stops suddenly. You need to start farming for the first time. On that note I just hit lv82. Also got double spook of commie stalker
Wait, fuck nier robot parts would make for some AMAZING cyberware for cyberpunk. Why did I never think of this?
>>141020 >I assume that just existing like that wouldn't be enough to cause the local icon-deity versions of the aforementioned off-shoots to become emanations of myself, and I'd need to actively subsume them or whatever entity they're themselves derived from, correct? To be totally honest, both oWoD and Fate metaphysics are so aggressively assimilating that it’s very difficult to predict how that interaction would work. My best guess would be that magical effects that invoke/target/otherwise involve the idea of a specific deity would likely have a chance to affect both that deity and a counterpart showing up from elsewhere, but actually getting subsumed into someone is something that would take active effort by one or preferably both deific figures. >And possibly punching the Neter in the face for being dicks The crazy thing is if you take the Scorpion King direct to DvD movies as canon, Ereshkigal might be in on the divine racket too. Which raises serious questions about whether the entire Medjei system (if you can even call it a system, it’s not like Rick is unlocking the [Egyptian Paladin] class to acquire the rare skill [Smite Undead] and the [+4 Shotgun of Double Death] cheat item. He literally fights mummies normally and just fucking wins because destiny said so) is in fact a purely Egyptian system or sponsored by the actual Jehovah. I lean towards the latter in my chain mainly because the most prominent Medjei in the series after Rick, Ardeth Bay, refers directly to being a Medjei as being a “warrior of God” despite supposedly being descended from the Pharoah’s bodyguards. (This is a fictional setting in which the militant nomadic group that is somehow simultaneously devoutly Muslim while acknowledging the existence of Egyptian deities, and who despite using lethal force against anyone even approaching Imhotep’s tomb have the moral highground because the alternative is a calamitous 10 Plagues-themed disaster PERPETUATED BY THEIR OWN ANCESTORS on Imhotep being unleashed on the world.) You were clearly not meant to overthink any of this, because the filmmakers put more effort into everyone speaking authentic Egyptian which I only know because I recognise a few phrases like “dai-you” and “Inijurek?” from Age of Mythology unit lines than any other aspect of worldbuilding, but since I did it does make me wonder if YHWH was also in on what I’m going to call the Ultraconservative Pantheistic Anti-NTR Mafia, if he is actually opposing it since the Hom-Dai was nominally cast with their approval but Rick and Ardeth’s actions result in it’s full consequences not coming to pass, or if the truth is somewhere in between. Like YHWH just joined in because he liked the idea of punishing sinners and then got cold feet when he saw the Neter were batshit insane, and decided to dedicate his cut of the pie to shutting the whole thing down).
>>141024 The general consensus seems to be that the most important investment you can make in the guild base is a maid who will always have a better build than yours.
I like how being able to summon a golden age human spirit to smite shit is something you can do with OWoD magic.
>>141027 >On that note I just hit lv. 82 Ree, I wanna hurry up and become a lv. 90 GOD so I can unlock SHonkers’ secret skill and finally stop being the Tactical Assault punching bag (which I have to be to get the daily rewards. At least I’m finally in the 600-800 rankings consistently) >>141028 Probably because they are all scaled for girls and twinks? Now, Machine Lifeform parts on the other hand at least have precedent for coming in man size.
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>>141002 First of all I apologize to everyone for the constant pokemon leak posting >wait what happened? 1)Final Budget for the recent Pokémon games were leaked. Converted into US dollars, let’s just say they’ve they have that Illumination studio mindset with how small their budget for these games & the resulting quality that has came from it **2) Junichi Masuda got kicked upstairs/ousted from directing mainline Pokémon games starting around or during XY (which explains how Gen 6 both felt & was half assed as revealed through the number of Teraleak #1’s info on beta/scrapped details in regards to the Kalos region). GF from Gen 6 to present (Gen 9) has been undergoing a lengthy restructuring, which includes Shigeru Ohmori stepping down as a director for Division Chief 2 in 2024 (but is still a director elsewhere in the company). It’s a fucking clusterfuck. There was a catbox of the raw documents under the post but I arrived way too late to save it. Someone made a Translated version of the original documents, but the quality is what you expect from a regular online translator attempt. >https://drive.google.com/file/d/12an5SxabnagZOkmrmMg7UWmEPY01lD1r/view
>>141012 Gachapon waifu game
>>141033 >First of all I apologize to everyone for the constant pokemon leak posting You should apologise for presenting Centro as a credible source tbh.
>>141032 You do know that the ones that lead the board are all consumed waifufags right? Like SHanako is good at lvl90, but they give her the best gear, unlock the UE60 and reach affection 100. Their output is like 2-3 more than a regular lv90 SHanako. On that note, for TA you want a team that can consistently hit faster, crit more and hit consistently. Which usually means getting SShiroko, Kisaki, or others that make the ex skills come faster, or shun that gives you like 5 of skill from the start.
>>141031 This one specifically. >Protection of the Golden Race (••••• Spirit, •• Prime)By several accounts, the people of the golden age are still out there protecting humanity from monsters and unnatural things in the night. The caster calls upon the closest member of the golden race to protect them from an opponent. A blinding flash of golden light appears, wounding if not killing the attacker. System: This rote can only be used upon supernatu-ral entities and is always considered extremely vulgar. What actually happens to the creature is left to the Storyteller; the caster literally unleashes the guardian power of the golden race. Note that this rite does not actually empower the mage — rather, it summons the golden ones themselves. The reactions of the golden ones are unpredictable; as protectors of humanity, though, they are likely to incinerate most supernatural predators — so long as the summoning mage is not also a threat! After all, a mage’s powers can be just as dangerous to humanity as any vampire’s unnatural hungers.Summoning the golden ones is a difficult undertaking. The ancients have long since left the Realms in which most mages operate. Calling them through the Gauntlet and across the Umbra is a difficult task. Casting this rote is vulgar (difficulty 10), and the Storyteller is the final arbiter of how many successes are necessary to successfully call the golden ones. A mage should never be certain of his ability to call on these saviors for intervention. Note also that a mage must know about the golden ones to be able to call them; learning this rote requires extensive study into Greek legend and culture (best represented by an extended Intelligence + Academics or Investigation roll and a great deal of roleplaying).
>>141033 First the BREEDING lore and now this. I swear Pokemon leaks have been more interesting than anything the actual games were trying to advertise to me in the last couple of years, except the insanely attractive cavewoman-coded professor. It is kind of fascinating to watch a franchise you played for a bit with as a kid, then grew out of, continuously jump the shark beyond all recognition and get away with it because despite everything it still has levels of brand recognition and consumer loyalty that Amazon would kill to figure out. It’s not even doing anything to offend me, personally, as much as say-Blizzard has for most of their IPs. I just look at these business decisions, and the only way I can make sense of them is that when Nintendo saw white people were in fact stupid enough to buy the Switch 2 for it’s asking price they all started laughing maniacally and daring each other to come up with the most absurd shit possible.
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Did you know that a owod Mage can just turn into a Numidium if they are particularly autistic?
>>141035 I NEVER treat Centro as anything else outside of being a messenger considering he keeps taking pics from 4chan (how else you explain the Fuck Centro watermarks nonsense) but I can stop screenshotting from him to provide a simplified explanation if others s don’t want to go digging through /vp/ for info
I need to work on my jumps instead of reading random quests.
>>141040 fair then
>>140949 Do not fuck the computer.
>>141041 Read anything good lately?
>>141039 That's barely a babby Numidium. Wake me when a Mage gets so autistic that hey can screech "NO" at something and make it never have been in the first place.
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>>141036 >Like SHanako is good at lvl90, but they give her the best gear, unlock the UE60 and reach affection 100. Tbh that is my objective too. When I find a meta unit I like I’m willing to go all the way for her as long as I don’t have to spend IRL money, which is the only reason why I’m missing a few extra skills for my lv. 120 NP5 Kukulkan with lv. 10 Mana Loading and fully upgraded Command Cards. >Which usually means getting- And as an F2P (enforced by my country’s ultra-paranoic credit card laws. Probably for everyone’s own good given how addictive gambling is to the chinese mind, desu) that much I’ll never really be fully prepared for until at least after Trinity summer. >>141039 I’ve been aware for a while, yeah. The stuff I’ve been ranting about recently is all stuff I accounted for and mentioned in my builds for the relevant jumps ages ago. That’s something my Jumper can probably inflict with his THREAT NULL powers.
We have a judge dredd jump?
>>141047 We have one for Dredd, the live action movie. It's in the imaged folder
>>141044 Currently reading one about a Psyker going around in the space between Old Night and the Great Crusade collecting the Primarchs early to spare them issues like the Butcher's Nails. The Primarchs are all female versions from that series of pics from a while back
>>141047 Yes we do, imaged folder
>>141033 Huh, neat. Masuda did make some solid games so I'm wondering if kicking him was the right move, even if he did encourage a less than great company culture.
>>141050 Ah its under dredd not judge, thank you
>>141045 >babby Babylonian >Berate the Demon (••• Spirit, ••• Matter)In Babylon, everything was thought to be the po-tential home of a demon, including materials used in ritual magic. Some Babylonian mages prepared their foci by yelling at the demons inside. The mage declared himself a representative of the gods and informed his tools that they had better obey him. Vague threats seemed to work best.While this Effect is not yet in wide circulation, many Traditions are developing permutations to suit their paradigms. Sons of Ether seem particularly fond of berating their equipment, but so far it has only been effective on tools the berater created himself.
So does World of Darkness have any waifus or at the very least evil women (Japan) instead of western girlbosses?
>>141046 >When I find a meta unit I like I’m willing to go all the way for her as long as I don’t have to spend IRL money Good for you because outside of pyros for gacha, everything in the game is ultra farmable. Guessing you will be doing the same for Rio?
>>141052 (me) Oh hey I could import my luxury cyberpunk apartment complex into the Jumper block and double its size, a 200 story luxury city basically, and give it all the defenses of a judge dredd megacomplex arcology. Though I will need a better way to get food, I do not want to recycle people. Though I suppose I can always plop myself down in a large plains area and start farming, If I only need to supply food for myself I can just buy it from the system.
>>141055 Yeah pretty much, she’s my namecard rep now after all. This is how I dodge the threat of gambling addiction on gachas: Go in late when the meta has had time to ferment, identify everyone both fuckable and worth my energy, pour all of my concentration into making them game breaking gods, cease to have neurons to spare on the temptation of quantity over quality. >>141054 >evil women (Japan) No. The oWoD has a traditionally western take on evil women. Which is to my liking personally, but I can almost guarantee not yours based on the fact that you posted a Fate pic. Some people are fans of the blonde nurse in the Bloodlines game, although I would argue Bloodlines is a very optimistic take on oWoD.
>>140935 I think the only person who actually says that Kaguya was weaker than any of the other Otsutsuki is Sasuke who at the time didn't know anything about them and was speculating purely based on his presumption. There are certainly Otsutsuki who are stronger than Kaguya was but Kaguya seems to be pretty damn strong even by Otsutsuki standards and I believe the only reason she was afraid of them in general (and was trying to build an army) was because they outnumbered her and she'd be facing the whole Otsutsuki clan by herself.
>>141055 Hey Ric, I opened up Master Duel for the first time. The last time I played YuGiOh was when I was a little kid hanging out with my cousins. GX hadn't even aired at the time, let alone all the other stuff. Where do I start here, and what do I need to do to Git Gud?
So how did you guys deal with the Brethren Moons heading towards Earth in Dead Space?
>>141059 quit because it's a giant clusterfuck of a game
>>141045 They can do that at the highest levels of schizo, though Consensus undoes it when they leave the area.
>>141061 It haunts my thoughts and I'm still enamoured with the idea of magic cards that summon monsters. And the egyptian theme. Which I think was mostly dropped at this point, but I don't know for sure because again-last time I played was before GX was even a thing.
>>141060 If you've got a ship, it's not your problem.
>>141060 Went to supcom first then to star wars and then nier so that when the day comes I need to deal with them I will have a stockpile of several trillion death stars worth of droids to help me deal with them.
>>141059 You really really need to not care if you Git Gud. You won't, and it's not worth it. Just have fun being a casual
>>141058 For whatever reason (seen a few ideas like the Naruto planet just being really energy-intense) Kaguya gets stupid strong after she eats the fruit (killing the dude beforehand can be explained as a sneak attack). She's just not that great at using her skills and she spent half the fight thinking Sasuke and Naruto are her sons.
>>141060 I have a spell that lets me kill anything once a month and a perk that lets me refresh limited use abilities with five minutes of concentration.
>>141058 I mean, Naruto had to go super Saiyan and still didn't beat that one dude so I gotta figure he's stronger than her
>>141066 Alright, how do I Git Vaguely Competent Enough To Know What's Going On And Play In General?
>>141069 Don't forget the hidden organization of like 10 people all on his level.
>>141059 No idea. I don't play Master Duel. Try the tutorial (if it has one) Current non-shit format is Genesys which is pretty damn fun. No links, no pends. Only Fusions, XYZ, and Synchros. Also problematic cards are given point costs so decks are kept in check. >>141057 Extremely based. In next FEST (trinity swimsuits) feel free to blow your load of pyros and get the units. All FEST units are good, even the ones that have alternative options. >>141070 Is there any archetype or type of card you would like to play? We can start from there, choose a deck and then try if it sticks with you or if you prefer something else.
>>141060 I sent a Nanite Interdictor to shoot them with Nano-Cloud Missiles that proceeded to, upon impact, rapidly begin converting their organic flesh into more nanomachines under my control. A couple of missiles and a few minutes later and the Brethren Moons were swiftly reconfigured into Colossi.
>>141070 I have absolutely no advice for that. My own personal method of learning cardgames is to ignore tutorials entirely and just learn on the fly while making decks
>Scarlet Crusade were right about the Forsaken being no better than the Scourge (in fact they fundamentally underestimated the threat of the Forsaken due to not knowing about the Jailer’s existence, which gave Sylvanas an opportunity to turn her existential crisis into a cosmological one) >Garrosh was right about the Forsaken being no better than the Scourge (and in addition to the above, the game makes it so in another timeline Garrosh was the greatest champion of the Light) >Garithos was right to distrust elves (high elves siding with the Alliance; Kael'thas siding with the Legion, Night Elves allowing Tyrande to represent them and therefore alienating the Nightborne into siding with the fucking Horde, and most recently Alleria insisting that she can TOTALLY use the Void for good purposes even as the Void is in the process of trying to devour Azeroth) >Fandral Staghelm was right that trusting non-night elf races would lead to their downfall (Burning of Teldrassil) >Daelin Proudmoore was right that the orcs couldn't be trusted (Destruction of Theramore, the Iron Horde, that one side story about a Pandaren prophecy in which Garrosh used a plot armour scroll to conquer Azeroth only to leave it helpless before Sargeras’ conquest) Reminder that every single racist character in Warcraft was ultimately vindicated. EXCEPT for Azshara who was 1. naive enough to believe that the Night Elves were the master race and not trolls uplifted into elemental cumsocks that she was hard carrying every step of the way into imperium, 2. ignorant enough to believe she could charm Sargeras in good faith when Sargeras is a literal orbiter for Azeroth, 3a. reckless enough to not realise she was being played by N’zoth and 3b. so slow on backstabbing him that the only reason she survived trying to is because the easily manipulated obedient drone that is the WoW PC came along and set her free instead of executing her dumb ass.
>>141072 >Try the tutorial (if it has one) It ran me through a tutorial of the basics of basics (lifeforce, attacks, spells, traps), gave me a starter deck, and just sorta dropped me there. >Is there any archetype or type of card you would like to play? We can start from there, choose a deck and then try if it sticks with you or if you prefer something else. I don't know what archetypes there are or how to build a deck. The only thing I know is that the Three Egyptian God Cards were really cool and I used to have them but lost one of them years ago, and now only have two of them in little plastic card sleeves. That are somewhere in my parent's garage, and I moved out years ago but mom is a hoarder who never throws shit away so they're probably still there. ...What archetypes are there to choose from? >>141074 How do you build a deck?
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>>141059 Take Synchro deck as a starter deck after tutorial (you’ll get the other 2 decks after clearing enough missions), buy Dragonmaids or Blackwings as a starter (unironically for Dragonmaid as it could be used as a bridge to breach out into making a hybrid dragon fusion deck with Branded, Dragon Link, etc). Unfortunately you’re literally in one of the worst periods to join (but still better in the future) considering Konami is accelerating the meta cycle in MD & we’re currently in Malice/“That fucking reptile meta ritual deck that I hate” cycle. >>141070 Learn to read the text. It’s not a joke in the long run considering that the wording of certain cards can let players go full solitaire or pull a hybrid deck out of their ass like Watt/Tenpai.
>>141069 Keep in mind that he didn't beat Kaguya either. The entire fight with Kaguya was essentially Naruto and Sasuke trying to not die instantly and their only objective was to touch her at the same time. Which they struggled and almost failed to do despite Kaguya going through an emotional breakdown due to their resemblance to her children and seemingly not even trying that hard as seen when she gets more serious against Kakashi and instantly annihilates an entire dimension. There's also the fact that Kaguya was able to absorb the Chakra Fruit on her own when normally two Otsutsuki are required to do it, implying that even prior to eating the Chakra Fruit she was stronger than an average Otsutsuki clan member.
>>141076 >How do you build a deck? Look for cards with effects that sound neat, and then try to figure out why the game won't let you make your deck since you added in banned cards.
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>>141060 >My very first ever Warhammer Fantasy build was basically being an inexplicably buff elf with total mastery of Shysh (and, IIRC, the Green Knight’s weirdness although it’s been a while and I forgot if that ended up in the final build) Every time one showed up I just went ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL and subjugated it with necromantic curses tailored to corrupting the Marker signals themselves. After filtering out the Necromorph victims still sane enough to be productive members of society, I ended up just using the rest as cheap automaton labour for the purposes of terraforming planets and strongarming the retarded corporations and glowies who were part of the Marker quarantine failed so abjectly to begin with.
>>141077 I took the dragon deck after tutorial because it didn't have weird terms I didn't recognize like Synchro, so I'm already on a bad start. >>141079 But reading comprehension is hard!
>>141081 >But reading comprehension is hard! Then why are you playing a game which involves heavy use of reading comprehension? Also math, there's a bunch of math too
>>141076 Well, usually people watch the anime series which despite everything gives an idea of how the game works. If you stopped on the DM era, then I have nothing to tell you except try to watch some matches or anime duels on yt and see if it interests you because you're set for failure by trying to enter the game raw without any knowledge of it or friend to guide you. >...What archetypes are there to choose from? a fuck ton. Want pirate goblins? We got the Plunder Patrol. VTubers? Live * Twin is there. Want to use cute girls to ram into big kaijus and win? Minkanko. Cool fusion monsters like yugi's chimera fusion? Chimera is its whole thing. Wanna see some cute flowers and bugs negate your opponent until he loses it? Naturia! Dragons? We got dozens of those, you can even mixmatch them! Choose a theme or a style and you can find it in here.
>>141058 To be fair, even the fucking scout Otsu can stop time.
>>141076 >...What archetypes are there to choose from? Pick frog
>>141081 >Took the dragon deck It’s ok! That’s fine! It’s not as well rounded as the Synchro deck but it won’t be a nightmare to try & pilot like taking Links (which always seem to give newbies the most trouble). Not to mention since it’s fusion related, it’s easier to ease yourself into getting used to the playstyle of modern fusion decks, especially Branded who’s main card revolves around a dragon monster & has synergy with several other Archtypes! > ...What archetypes are there to choose from? We have so many (& that’s not even talking about those that can have synergy like Suship/Magikey or Machina/Any Machine deck. This is merely the tip of the iceberg.)
>>141082 Because I am dumb and do things that I am both bad at and make me suffer in hopes that I will improve (I won't). >>141083 I was hoping you/this thread could be my friend who could guide me through it. I suppose I'll figure out as I go along. >>141086 You sound happy and I will take comfort in that positivity.
>>141087 Frog. Pick the frogs.
>>141085 >>141088 You sound biased towards frogs.
>>141090 Frogs are the best archtype.
I have found additional tutorials in the solo mode! I will learn!
>>141085 He won't be able to play frog. I doubt he can even play mermail as a newcutie. >>141087 >I was hoping you/this thread could be my friend who could guide me through it. I suppose I'll figure out as I go along. I mean like irl. Like, being literally besides you teaching you how it works. There's only so much one can write in a single comment to help without knowing the whole picture. This game is a nightmare to learn at best.
>>141077 Honestly Dragonmaids isn't the worst place to start. It's a fairly solid casual deck, although it suffers a bit against OTK combo decks and heavy interruption but there's some funny stuff you can pull off with it and it's one of those decks that if it survives longer than 3 turns you will lose barring some bullshit happening or huge misplays. Once Sheou + House is out and a few dragons and traps are on the field/in the GY it's basically GG unless you're facing some crazy shit. Very few decks can rebuild from a boardwipe like Dragonmaids can since you can refill all your zones and have Sheou out again by the time your opponent gets to their next Main Phase.
>>141081 >But reading comprehension is hard! Then you don't want to play yugioh.
>>141095 It looks so cool though! I will learn, even though it hurts!
>>141033 The hell is WIWA?
>>141097 Leaked gen 10 games
>>141075 To be fair: >Scarlet Crusade Were Dreadlord puppets and therefore ALSO puppets of the Jailer, but points to them for sheer cockroach-like resilience. >Garrosh Somehow thought an Old God heart was any better than demon blood, and literally said he'd do it all again before disenchanting his own ghost. His thought process is an enigma. >Garithos Self-fulfilling prophecy. If he didn't repeatedly screw Kael'thas over, he wouldn't have gotten desperate enough to team up with Illidan and then with Kil'jaeden. >Fandral Staghelm Wasn't supposed to plant Teldrassil in the first place, and then sided with Ragnaros due to being salty about not being immortal anymore. Why should you trust an Elemental Lord who literally can and wants to burn everything over a random zombie who needs super-catapults powered by the planet's blood to burn one unblessed World Tree? >Daelin Proudmoore Him predicting the Orcs getting villain-batted again and again is one thing, but why did he waste time chasing thirty to fifty Jungle Trolls instead of bringing the agricultural, naval, and military might of Kul Tiras to do something about the Scourge?
>>140974 Mein Gott that ass.
>>141087 >You sound happy and I will take comfort in that positivity. That’s because I’ve been playing for a long while now. On & off mostly due to RL. I don’t mind being friends or giving out the promotional Rookie + Returning follower code for you to get some Branded cards for free since your screenshot from earlier says it’s still active & I got a code for any Rookies/Returners here to put in. >>141094 Exactly what makes it so perfect for Nyanko to move into as his 1st potential deck. I kinda hate playing against it because of its annoying boss monsters if I fail to shut it down fast unless I’m playing Myutants. >>141092 That’s the spirit, completing most of them also provides gems if you play against the final CPU behind the locked door route with your own deck!
>>141100 >His thought process is an enigma. Orc supremacy can't be that enigmatic.
>>141100 I thought three of the dragons did bless the Teldrassil around Cataclysm.
>>141103 >branded You happy for the new all foil structure deck? >>141096 I really, really, really recommend you to not play this game.
fuck me I just raw dogged a pill without a drink, now it feels like it is stuck in my throat
>>140949 Reboot and Digimon
>>141108 Oh, drink water, drink water, drink water, bitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcwBJyn-yMA
>>141104 I do not question Point A (Orcs are not the supreme overlords of Azeroth) or Point B (Orcs are the supreme overlords of Azeroth). I question how he thought repeating his dad's biggest mistake but worse was going to get him from Point A to Point B instead of getting the Orcs enslaved again. The time travel wasn't even his idea, that was Kairozdormu and Wrathion trying to play 5D chess and reinventing Chutes and Ladders in the process. >>141105 Just two, those being Alexstrasza and Ysera, and only after Malfurion removed the Nightmare-corrupted branch Fandral grafted to Teldrassil when he planted it. Nozdormu didn't, and really his was the blessing Fandral actually wanted.
>>141108 Drink water. Or eat bread, and then drink water.
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>>141108 Take some vodka.
>>141100 >Somehow thought an Old God heart was any better The most enigmatic part of his thought process was that his writers came out and confirmed that ackshyually Garrosh was 100% in control of his Final Fantasy boss transformation. The Titans’ lawnmower pieces are just BUILT DIFFERENT, same as how that one orc managed to actually wound Sargeras in melee. >Self-fulfilling prophecy True. Garithos would’ve been considered a hero if he’d just stopped picking on refugees long enough for the RvB wars to really escalate, THEN go full Alliance For The Humans. >Wasn’t supposed to In all fairness it is kind of harsh that everyone else’s response to the loss of immortality is just “get over it, man” >why did he waste time Because he was written at a time when Kul Tiras wasn’t supposed to be powerful enough to do something about the Horde on it’s own, probably.
>>141108 Gods, I hate that shit. Especially when it keeps feeling like there's something there for hours afterwards
>>141111 >>141113 I am, forgive meeeeee >>141116 I don't have any alcohol, not a fan of drinking.
>>141117 >Garithos would’ve been considered a hero if he’d just stopped picking on refugees long enough for the RvB wars to really escalate, THEN go full Alliance For The Humans. Sylvanas always planned on killing him, the only thing he would've stopped was the Blood Elves changing sides (maybe).
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>>141106 >You happy for the new all foil structure deck? Unfortunately Mr Konami, it makes me want to die. Branded favoritism sickens me. Even worse is that the Duel Terminal Support leave out Worms to die…again…My shitty Archtype always get the short end of the stick, even Ally of Justice & Genex got more help in the long run. Millions must be wormed.
>>141105 Oh yeah that’s another thing: Due to bad writing dragons are weirdly enigmatic about retroactively having the capacity to solve seemingly setting-changing problems with something long forgotten in their sheds. Remember when the Aspects had to sacrifice their powers to defeat Deathwing for good, and then Dragonflight just went “Oh actually, we have all these sigils lying around that can give the Aspect powers back and we just didn’t use them in one of many lulls in between Azeroth crisis events because uh…uhhhh…durrr…look, celebrating a festival is literally more important than keeping a functional Aspect of Life around, trust Big Lizard”
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>>141122 A better excuse would be whatever system was hiding the Dragon Isles was keeping it hidden from even the Dragonflights and Aspects.
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>>141123 I love the Worm! The Worm love me!
>>141112 >I question how he thought repeating his dad's biggest mistake but worse was going to get him from Point A to Point B instead of getting the Orcs enslaved again To Steelman/play devil's advocate (Sha's advocate? Orc's advocate? Being Baine Bloodhoof in War Crimes?), there is a difference between glugging the Mannoroth juice and using the Sha. First of all, in WC3 Grom went 'oh no, I can't beat these Night Elves, better drink up!!'. Meanwhile, Garrosh never partook in the buffs himself until the very end of Mists, he had his goons and lackeys undergo the Sha infusion first, while he tests it out, so to speak. Second of all, in Grom's case Mannoroth is an alive entity that can puppet Grom, meanwhile (outside of Hearthstone) Y'Shaarj is dead and can't. Most Sha infusions end up seeming like a fit of (over)-emotion, and in Garrosh's case, it doesn't seem like that'd actually change his actions and attitudes?
>>141103 >spoiler Dragonmaids is also one of the designated OUR TURN decks. Which, while always hilarious, doesn't make it any more fun to play against.
Jumper has taken to abducting random humans in the night as a hobby. But they have no idea what to actually do with them once they're on the ship. Please advise.
>>141117 Broxigar is an outlier even among orcs and should not be counted. Genuinely what even is that guy?
>>141121 I feel sorry for you. My own Archtype, Frogs, never gets any support either. Just a watered down retrain of one of it's banned cards. God I wish Mr Frog would get a retrain to make him worthwhile
>>141128 Probe their butts.
>>141129 Didn't Broxigar use the Axe of Cenarius or was that the other dude
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>>141128 Turn them into lolis and adopt them out to people
>>141128 Suck out their internal organs, take some Polaroids, and tell them they were darn good sports. Then send them back to any point in history they'd like to go.
>>141132 That was him with the axe, but that still shouldn't have let him scratch the full physical form of a Titan.
Do we have a Destroy All Humans Jump?
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>>141121 Worms were a mistake. Plus they kinda got support with the ragnaraika thing. I don't think komoney wants to give more reptile support anymore after the current ritual deck fucking over everyone. >>141119 I didn't ask. Drink your poison, xavier
>>141133 How would Allmight/Nezu/UA actually react to someones whose quirk was lolification?
>>141139 I'unno. You'd probably get kidnapped by rich people and made to give them back their youth.
>>141139 I imagine a mix of vague concern and speculation as to what kinds of quirks your parents and possibly grandparents had to make that happen.
>>141129 Broxigar is legitimately the closest link WoW has to the ideas of Warhammer Fantasy, lorewise sometimes a sufficiently CHAD WARRIOR MANLY MAN can just through sheer spiritual force of will hurt things casters can barley comprehend. Like Grimnir fighting his way into godhood (which AoS proved actually worked. And then Grimnir immediately threw away his new life fighting a big salamander that Sigmar only kind of wanted dead) >>141138 >Worms were a mistake I thought they were cool in the Duel Terminal part 1 jump… Also for a second there I thought you meant the Kengan Omega Worms, which yes are an absolutely hilarious mistake.
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How do you handle alt-forms in your chain? Is there a limit, or is every new background/race/age/sex another form? How does the jumper swap between them? Is it instant? What does it look like? Should companions have alt-forms?
>>141142 >kengan omega Great comedy manga, but its getting repetitive. >>141143 I don't bother with alt-forms
>>141060 >The moons feed on earth >the hellstar feeds on the moons >the outer gods feed on the hellstars
>>141091 Frogs are the best in all card games
>>141139 Just having it? They wouldn't care. Going around and using it on any random bystander you can catch? That's villain behavior and they'll arrest you.
>>141146 What about Blackjack?
>>141146 God I wish MtG had more frogs
>>141060 Swatted them like gnats with my fleets. I made the Tyranids extinct: the Brethren Moons, in comparison, were target practice at best.
>>141143 Every jumper has a default body, same with companions and followers. They can gain an alt form but it only works like a temporary transformation spell. The exception to this is if they decide to choose that form as their default at the start of a jump, but then the same rules apply, just with a different default body.
>>141143 Jumper's altforms are transformations that they gotta learn how to take. Maybe it's by triggering a specific battle mode with their nanites, maybe it's by chugging a weird potion, maybe it's a specific spell. That's pretty much it, to be honest.
>>141147 What if I heal All Might by turning him into a loli.
>>141149 I wish MtG would just stop chasing an imaginary Gen Alpha audience, stop thinking wizards being retarded was the main selling point of the setting, start making magic wondrous and unknowable again, stop solving every major conflict with big dumb MCU team-ups in which everyone new is buddy-buddy and everyone old is even more retarded than usual, stop going out of it’s way taking planeswalkers out of the setting that made it’s name off being a planeswalker, stop writing themselves into a corner where villains are so unstoppable literally the only way to beat them is to make them retarded right at the end when they should have won, and bring back the Eldrazi. But like, at this point MtG seems to be fully run by marketing teams.
>>141143 This is why current chain has only two forms. Body mod drop in and super hero transformation. On other chains, each and every non drop in is a new body. >How does the jumper swap between them? at will >Is it instant? about a quick second >What does it look like? A ring of light >Should companions have alt-forms? yes
>>141153 The people who manage his branding are probably going to have aneurysms when they sees how much work you've made for them.
>>141149 I mean it has some really solid frogs. Plus people still to this day get weird combos going with Psychic Frog
>>141149 Listen, with how many crossovers they've been doing these days I bet it's only a matter of time before they do a Muppet set and let you summon Kermit.
>>141157 I need more than just seventy six frogs
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>>141130 >I feel sorry for you. Don’t, it’s basically a habit at this point that I’ll gravitate towards playing the weakest Archtypes due to just pure style alone. Some like Yubel & Flame Swordsman has managed to be redeemed by new support & made it out like a bandit while the likes of Worms are in an absolute worst case scenario where not even doing a hybrid deck is likely to make the shine in an odd way (Konami you can make good flip monsters now pleeeease give them a revamp). B.E.S., Watts, Tistina, Gradius (not a real archtype but I loved playing them during the honeymoon period), Ashened, Allure Queen, etc…they’re all struggling. I need a new version of Boss Rush for B.E.S so badly that doesn’t lock me out of normal summoning, I gotta do cartwheels to find monsters to circumvent the lock. > My own Archtype, Frogs, never gets any support either. Too broken for their own good when unshackled, yet never given enough reasonable support to act as a decently powered deck that doesn’t have to rely on Spright. The worst type of purgatory to be in. My condolences. >>141138 >Plus they kinda got support with the ragnaraika thing. If I get lucky with getting said cards, I need to test it out in MD >>141143 There’s no limit, & I tend to only treat those that changes me into a completely different species as an alt-form How does the jumper swap between them? Is it instant? What does it look like? Looks like a shapeshifter shedding its skin if done in a hurry or the differences between the two forms are too great. Human to Humanoid looking forms tend to be either very subtle or not far from a toned down werewolf-like transformation. Transforming from flesh to metal & back or from digital/spiritual to physical forms…I haven thought about those types of transformations in most chains not focused around those themes so I usually imagine it like a Pokémon evo, only white light reshaping itself here! >Should companions have alt-forms? Of course.
What, you think you're too good for Gitrog?
>>141154 >at this point MtG seems to be fully run by marketing teams. Everything is run by marketing teams. Consequences of a generation where everyone was told to go into business, learn marketing, and push hard for selling shit.
>>141161 While the dude's pretty neat for managing to be corrupted by the Eldrazi and then shrug off the corruption over time, he's just one frog
I have begun to play with the Dragonmaid deck. It confuses the fuck out of me but somehow I have two super high level dragons on the field out of nowhere.
>>141164 make a dragonmaids jump
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>>141143 >How do you handle alt-forms in your chain? I get the thing and I can turn into the thing. >Is there a limit Nope, each is a new form. >How Since my Jumper has something of a trinity thing going on (not because of YHWH, before my Jumper “found religion” he apprenticed under the titaness Hecate to learn witchcraft, and greatly admired her. I don’t think I consciously chose to do a masculine version of the mother-maiden-crone thing, but due to the mysterious and emergent nature of primordial greek deity magic I think slowly, over time and in response to environmental pressures imposed by my Jumper’s actual goals, my Jumper has sorta unconsciously developed 3 different aspects of his existence: Kabbalistic divine human progenitor, Marathon-style metafictional Hero of a Thousand Faces and technological singularity from the notional end of all existence bootstrapping itself in the past-due to limitations about his self-knowledge from back before he was in utter 100% full control over all mystical energy around himself), I imagine there are actually 3 different modes: A smokeless white fire conflagration that lasts an arbitrary and surreal length of time in which my Jumper doesn’t so much transform as undergo a weird optical illusion where one thing retroactively turns into another thing when viewed from a different angle, physically breaking down and rebuilding himself from femtomachines in seconds, and glitches in reality surrounded by pixels and/or words of power that happen retroactively >Should companions I like to think due to companion builds piggybacking off the main one, they do in fact have altforms and while primarily themed after their powersets and personalities also share some aesthetic similarity with mine due to a metaphysical umbilical cord pumping in the “nutrients” between our builds.
>>141165 Bro I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, how do you expect me to make a jump out of that?
>>141165 Make a frog jump
>>141162 Marketing teams are truly a blight on this earth.
>>141158 With how hard they’re pushing the crossover shit I’m just waiting for them to turn around and go “actually everything is canon, now stop whining and make Spider-Man canon in your deck”
>>141158 I legitimately didn't even know the crossovers were a thing until I updated Forge and pulled the fifth doctor when starting a new Quest Mode playthrough.
>>141167 >Bro I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing So the normal state of jumpmaking?
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>>141167 Look no further, the lore is within your fingertips https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18793092
>>141165 Dragonmaids is an archtype that you'd need a Shadow Realm type jump for, combining unrelated archetypes for a relatively OC setting. Would be cool to see, don't get me wrong, but still.
>>141028 You never thought of it because they are robots/androids, not cyborgs. You probably just didn't think that those robot parts could be grafted onto humans at the time.
>>141173 I won a practice duel with dragonmaid deck, though I feel like I misused many of the cards and definitely didn't do things correctly.
>>141176 That’s still ok! Took me a long while to get used to playing some of the newer decks & some meta play styles (like when Rescue-Ace Snake Eyes was still considered “meta”). Finding a play style you like is merely one of the 1st steps towards getting used to Yu gi oh. And in some cases, doing odd play could throw off the opponent in the heat of the moment or alert you of a niche action your deck is capable of doing. Once you get used to it, you’ll start getting that feeling for experimenting with your deck with odd cards in an attempt to find more synergy here & there. Oh yeah, don’t forget you can craft cards by getting 30 of a specific rarity dust & dismantling a card refunds 10 of its assigned rarity (although this only works with non-legacy/story mode obtained cards unfortunately.)
>Soul Eater >Madness of Boobs >Despair Corner So basically, you can draw pictures of big titty anime women that drive the viewer to despair.
The best thing to do when going to Naruto is take A New World and make everything basically the same except there's no Boruto stuff and Kaguya is actually a deity
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>>141176 That means you have learned to play yugioh
>>141135 At that point I don’t think Titans being individually planet+ in scale had been worked out. So it’s probably just a result of earlier Warcraft thinking the Titans were weaker than they ultimately ended up being. Like, you have the Old Gods in the same novel thinking to themselves that they’ll just casually beat Sargeras like a red headed stepchild the moment they get freed, when we know factually that Sargeras could kill all of them at full power at once with no issue given he fully intends to destroy Azeroth and can just physically chop the planet in half.
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>>141174 Probably possible to make a Yugioh waifu jump with the cute girl archetypes like Maliss and Dragotail. Too bad they don't have any lore.
I recently saw a clip of someone continuously doing things turn one until he had all three god cards on the field and then won by Exodia on the first turn of the game. While cool it did not seem like fun to play.
>>141182 Maliss does, due to the recent Valuable Book. Iirc, it's essentially: >In an era of virtual reality and advanced technolgoy, the collective evil and pain within the human race tore a hole open in cyberspace leading into a dimension of malignant viruses that threatened humanity, who in turn responded with the creation of AI designed to venture into the other space and destroy the viruses Combined with the, admittedly sparse, lore Dragonmaid has, and they'd probably be good for individual origins, but you'd need a whole collection of other origins for a proper jump.
>>141176 Generally with Dragonmaids your objective is to get a fusion monster out, either House or Sheou. One important thing to remember when playing Dragonmaids is that your big dragons are immune to destruction by card effects as long as you have a fusion monster on the field. This turns your House/Sheou into a brick wall that opponents have to get rid of first and also protects them from board wipes since a board wipe will only successfully destroy the fusion monster. This protection isn't present on the smaller maids. In addition, while you can easily retrieve the big dragons from GY every turn by switching to them from the maids during the Battle Phase, getting a maid back is more troublesome. So it's often better to, if you've got a fusion on the field, to just leave the big dragon there and keep the maid in your hand to play next turn. Another thing to note, one that's super important but isn't obvious, is that you can't resurrect a monster from the GY unless it's been properly fusion summoned. Sheou's negate into House is not a proper fusion summon which means that effects that revive from GY can't affect a House brought onto the field by Sheou's negate. This is important because Chamber, one of your backbone cards, can switch into both Sheou and House during the Battle Step. But it can only do this if the House in the GY was fusion summoned. So in addition to bringing House to the field with Sheou's effect, you're also going to want to fusion summon House properly at some point so you can grind her out and make it a lot more annoying for your opponent to get rid of her. And House's effect of targeted card destruction every time a Dragonmaid monster bounces back to hand (which they do every Battle Phase) is more threatening and oppressive to your opponent than even Sheou's omni negate. So you're going to want her on the board every single Battle Phase. Which happens organically through Chamber if she's been properly fusion summoned.
>>141162 Actually, the shit about marketing teams just reminded me of something I haven’t thought about in a while. The Millennium Trilogy sequels. So, for those of you who don’t know: The Millennium trilogy is a swedish novel series about an autistic hacker and a middleaged journalist with a heart of gold going around solving crimes, that eventually uncovers a human trafficking ring. The series was considered feminist and far left at a time when “feminist” and “far left” were defined as actually railing against women being treated like fuck-cattle and the hard object bloodily shoved up ass kind of sexual abuse instead of the microaggression kind. I’m bringing this out to lay some context for why the sequels are so nonsensical. Oh yeah, the author died of a heart attack. A lot about the male MC makes sense when you realise he himself was a far left investigative journalist (again, at a time when this meant investigating death threats-sending extremists in Sweden. This is just a tangent, but despite mostly being characterised as a misandrist with a bulky lesbian gf who dedicates her life to going after actual human traffickers while avoiding contact with the rest of humanity as much as possible, Lisbeth (the autistic hacker. Who also boxes) does fuck Mikael Blomkvist (the midldeaged journalist) despite having both recent and longstanding bad experiences with horny middleaged men. And Mikael is HORNY. He bangs a lot of successful Swedish OLs throughout the series, under the premise of being attracted to their vocational success. Again, make of this what you will, I’m just laying the groundwork. We’re not even at the stupid part yet. The stupid part: The publisher another author to continue the series; he is also a journalist but a much less interesting one, all I could really find on him is he has a bunch of academic and gymnastic qualifications, and that he admitted to having imposter syndrome in an interview. How do you continue a series in which the major conflict (human trafficking and organised crime) is solved? Why, you introduce a BIGGER, MORE EVIL human trafficking ring called The Spiders and introduce a BIGGER, MORE THREATENING macguffin called firefall that will let the leader access the world’s nuclear codes. And the leader is the BLONDER, MORE EVIL sister of Lisbeth Salander whose backstory is that their dad bad touched both of them but she refused to run away with Lisbeth, proceeded to somehow blame her for the rest of her life, SOMEHOW became a criminal mastermind after their dad died. Prior to the last sequel’s review she’s literally just characterised as INEXPLICABLY EVIL AND DEVIOUS to the point of getting off on her dad raping other women. And while her motivations do in fact turn out to be just starting a global-scale school shooting because her life was shit, she also hates Lisbeth in particular for like…not being a good sister and not trying to rescue her from her own decisions hard enough. Despite, you know, Lisbeth remembering her as this psychopath from childhood (it could be argued Lisbeth was an unreliable narrator but the entire point of the series is Lisbeth telling things like they are so that would be an even weirder retcon than her having La Hermana). The whole thing is like a Gohanposter-level melty. She dies literally asking Lisbeth why she never came back for her, Lisbeth bluntly telling her she did this all to herself, and committing suicide from realising that actually yes this was literally all her fault. In short, the whole thing is the Swedish version of the Sherlock series giving Moriarty an eviler and even more intelligent autistic sister who is like, not so evil that she doesn’t sorta have a Homestuck troll thing for Sherlock. Or something. And the point I’m tediously making is that marketing teams trying to continue an existing franchise with no FUCKING understanding of why they were popular to begin with is why this shit was nowhere near as popular as the original series, and why the movie for the fourth book fucking bombed. >Jumpchain? What did you do in Generic Modern Action Movie? Not acknowledge shit like this, hopefully.
>>141183 It's likely a meme deck that only works if you have a good hand and your opponent doesn't have any handtraps. The best decks nowadays can already make a board that's essentially exodia more constantly.
>>141108 I know that fewl, but drinking water helps.
>>141183 We call that solitaire, it teaches a very good lesson about YGO: Some people aren’t here for fun. Sometimes they’re here to make others suffer. And other times they’re here to test the limits of what you can do in YGO. It’s why decks like Gamble/Coin Flip decks, Burn decks (including Nurse Burn variants that turns all healing Life Points for the Opponent into effect damage), Mill decks, Turn Skip (via Arcana Force The World) decks exist. The game allows it, but it’s up to you if you want to put in the effort to get “silly”.
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Hori finally released this art he said he'd make for the final MHA popularity poll like a year ago. Deku being number 2 behind Bakugo is hilarious
>>141191 >Bakugo and Endeavor in the top 10 No wonder MHA went to shit
>>141186 >And House's effect of targeted card destruction every time a Dragonmaid monster bounces back to hand I have 'Missed activation effect' PTSD, Yu-Gi-Oh is such a rule lawyer game.
>>141191 >that fucking grin >Queen Deku humbly standing at attention between her husband’s legs You can tell Hori is secretly very happy his husbando has won over hearts and minds
>>141186 I have won another practice duel with dragonmaids, only I never drew any of the tiny maids. Only the beeg dragons and a bunch of spell cards that I had to finangle into letting me summon shit. It somehow worked out, but felt extremely awkward.
>>141191 >Baku #1 Riggey, diggey, do >>141193 Yubel still has this “when” clause that causes this & it fucks me up. If the word says “if” you should be ok. “When”? Start sweating.
>>141192 It’s like seeing a whole new generation of Twilight fangirls, except some of them are also guys this time around. “No you don’t understand, the abrasive jackass and womanbeater are actually deeply misunderstood, I can fix him”. >inb4 someone posts the werewolf tomboy copypasta
>>140974 >video You can literally see that girls anus when she pulls on those tights (roughly the 2 second mark when she's grabbing and stretching the tights). I'm honestly kind of shocked that got past whatever censor is presumably checking this game to prevent it from being labeled as outright pornographic. >>141060 Most recent chain were I included Dead Space happened after several jumps where that jumper had picked up a DC power ring and a bunch of comics tier super science perks. They just went and studied the frozen Brethren Moon that's masquerading as the moon of Tau Volantis and then propagated a counter-signal through the Marker network that disrupted the Brethren Moon's ability to communicate, control and manipulate necromorph flesh. In effect it basically killed all of them and reduced them to actually-dead moon sized flesh balls. I figured between the super science, power ring and having an actual Brethren Moon to study that couldn't do shit to stop the Jumper from doing it that it probably only took a few months of effort. The Marker nonsense with Isaac Clarke meanwhile was short-stopped by the Jumper having shown up on the Ishimura a little bit before Isaac's shuttle showed up and using their power ring to immediately slam the Ishimura and that chunk of continent it was holding down into the planet, effectively destroying the ship, the colony, the Marker and everything else. As far as any investigation would be able to tell something happened that presumably cause the Ishimura to fall out of orbit and hit the colony, helpfully ensuring that Marker shenanigans don't start proliferating into human space while the jumper was working on the Brethren Moon problem.
>>141191 See, I can never tell if Bakugo is popular because Hori keeps hyping him up in the manga so he's convinced all his fans 'NO, BAKUGO IS COOL, I SWEAR', or if it's people going 'I can fix him!' or both. Fujos are involved either way.
>>141187 >What did you do in Generic Modern Action Movie? Not acknowledge shit like this, hopefully. The generic modern action movie doesn't exist. It's just called Modern Action Movie. Anyway, I fucked my exhibitionist criminal waifu.
So, I know Exalts can generally keep up with Servants and other physical powerhouses through a mix of esoteric shit and scene-length defensive charms, but what about Garou and Cainites? I haven’t read through all of the Garou’s stuff, but my impression is that while most Cainites just die to a Garou of comparable development in a straight fight, they’re not so outclassed that it’s impossible for a reversal to happen, and most Cainites who aren’t like, Methuselahs, seem like they’d kinda just evaporate from a near miss from Herk.
>>141201 Cainites absolutely cannot keep up with a Servant. They can literally be physically outclassed by normal humans unless they have Potence, and actually boosting their stats above superhuman levels takes a constant expenditure of resources.
>>141201 Going by the stated abilities of what vampire disciplines do from 1 to 5 dots I can't imagine anything other than an elder with 6 dots or higher even registering to most Servants as anything more than a very brief speedbump.
>>141199 I like Bakugo but I wouldn't say he's top 1 material. He should still be at least 9th or 10th
Should Wickerman be a class, or a skill?
>>141205 Depends on how Wickerman functions?
>>141205 class with beeeeeeeees
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>>141208 Hi, other WoL
>>141205 Class definitely >>141208 Good morning
>>141205 What you were doing with the classes and race evolution thing? I saw the candle dragon and I found interesting.
>>141195 You bricked, yeah. That happens sometimes, especially if you're playing purist Dragonmaids. You can mitigate it with some additional cards, like Return of the Dragon Lords or Trade-In. The Dragonmaid structure deck in MD is kind of all over the place without a ton of synergy, especially since it only has access to like one of each card. I would highly recommend buying three copies of it and making a custom deck with extra copies of your more useful cards while dropping the garbage ones.
>>141206 I'm thinking of fire based druid class progression stuff and names are hard to think.of, basically. >>141207 I can think of better names for the bee angle if I'mpursuing it purely. Wickerman historically is supposed to be a fire thing. NOT THE BEES! >>141210 If Class that does give me a good A-Rank option. >>141211 Yeah this relates to that. I've got most of the race progression figured out but class stuff is a bit more difficult. So far for class I have- >(S-Rank): ??? >(A-Rank): ??? >(B-Rank): ??? >(C-Rank): Pyre Druid >(D-Rank): Consecrated Quartermaster >(E-Rank): Temple Chandler >(F-Rank): Chandler The concept being Chandler (someone who makes and/or sells candles) going down a divine production class route after I infiltrate a temple and cannibalize the candles there, then once I'm "lost in the wilderness" and start with the outdoors themes that transitions into a druid which is like a nature priest, but fire themed from the influence of many of my prior skills. Meanwhile with race I've got- >(S-Rank): ??? >(A-Rank): Chandelydra >(B-Rank): Candelydra >(C-Rank): Giant Salamandle >(D-Rank): Grandle >(E-Rank): Ceremonial Candle >(F-Rank): Candle Candle that became influenced by the temple themes for a bit and then after being frequently exposed to the associated god's love of testing the indomitable human spirit, has been trying to distance himself, going down more beast-like progression even with the constitution of wax, wick, metal, and flame.
So I know MTG has Arena, but does YGO have a FTP vidya card game like it? Also, does YGO have any cards that function akin to these bad boys?
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Cool World of Darkness facts: did you know that "Dark Mother" not only refers to the progenitor of the Beast but is also a title that belongs to Lilith? Do you know that both are also called "The Mother of Monsters"?
>>141171 >Quest Mode ???
>>141215 >8chan ate my image
>>141191 >all men >multiple blatantly evil men in the top ten Yeah, you can tell this series was almost entirely read by fujos by the end.
>>141209 ??? >>141215 Yeah, Master Duel.
>>141212 That's a thing you can do? Huh. I'll trust your wisdom and buy two more copies.
So would cavemen just be like gods in Fate or? Are they even a thing?
>>141220 >??? I'm a shapeshifter! You really should make a trip. >>141219 To be fair the only lady who's top 10 material is Himiko
>>141223 Nah. 9anon can IP check here anyway if someone starts acting up.
>>141222 >pic Reddit actually has a jump for that, it's by Fafnir so presumably it's actually decent though I haven't read it myself.
>>141222 >pic Fun series, shame the ending was kinda wtf
>>141222 >So would cavemen just be like gods in Fate or? No, they'd just be normal humans, just more used to high mana environments. But outside of Heroes and Mages they wouldn't be inherently more powerful. >Are they even a thing? probably? we dont have many insights to humanity pre-bronze age in Fate, but they did exist.
>>141103 So now that I have a very vague idea of what I'm doing, what's that code to input again?
You know I really wanted to slow start this chain so ending Jump 1 as a giant monster was not something I was really planning around.
>>141229 Happens more often than you'd think. Especially if you pick a jump that you've never used before and go 'oh fuck, this is actually really powerful'.
>>141200 It is, however, inherently generic in spirit if not letter. Also based. >>141199 If Carol getting a genuine fandom on /co/ that started from people mocking her has taught me anything, it’s that “both” is the safe answer. People are retarded sheep who can and will gaslight themselves into eating shit if they don’t bother to actually figure out what they like. >>141201 It depends on the Servant. Medea and Schez prove stats don’t necessarily protect you from an assbeating in close range, Sono-G proves Skills and the right NP can let Servants punch up. If we are using Cu, Saiba, Gil and Heracles as the “standard” Servants (even though they are technically very gimped versions of very powerful Servants, Gil voluntarily) as well as EMIYA (“mid-tier Servant” my ass) then yeah the UPPER end of a lower-gen Cainite who has actually decided to focus on fighting is basically like Leo from the end of KnK. The moment that Celerity use runs out, the vampire is getting splattered. Really the biggest threats coming from vampires are more esoteric abilities like Dominate, Blood Sorcery, Oblivion, Daimonium or Malefica since Servants are not automatically immune to illusions/psychic interference and corruptive effects often have unpredictable effects on their spiritual makeup. Werewolves I would consider being still mooks in FGO terms, but without silver chunkier mooks. I would broadly compare them to the non-Shuten, non-Ibuki representatives of the oni race in terms of threats to Servants except that if you have silver a lot of that tankiness goes out the window, and some Garou also have mystical abilities like passing through the Gauntlet that could make landing a killing blow tricky. >>141216 Yup, there’s a lot of overlap between titles and even identities. Azazel is both a Akathartoi and an Aeon, for example. >>141222 >would cavemen just be like gods Himiko, the oldest current Japanese spirit, has precognitive powers so immense she can actually interfere with rayshifting and bring (you) back in time to help her out. And is also strong enough to physically beat up animalistic gods of darkness and other threats to early Japanese civilisation. Himiko is the closest thing we have to a caveman Servant after Gil, and unlike Gil she isn’t a divine eugenics project or a weapon user. So actually, yeah. 90% of all life died out when Sefar landed but SOMEONE who was apparently human wielded Excalibur successfully at full release. There is a very real non-zero chance that the less OP Solomon was actually pretty close to recreating a primeval human.
>>141230 Yeah that was exactly how that went. At least I can bullshit and say "actually all that progression was for THIS form over here, and not the human form" and just treat myself like a mostly normal human (for now) unless I once again turn into a big candle monster.
>>141227 >we dont have many insights to humanity pre-bronze age in Fate, but they did Apparently some magecraft foundations, like the one Kirsch and Olga inherited that was originally used to form artificial mana circuits to convey mana directly from the actual no-bullshit stars, predate the Age of the Gods. Also Himiko’s physique is explicitly because she’s close to the truly early humans. >A super naturally healthy body that’s never seen disease before. A perfect living image of health filled with the overflowing life force of the primitive Humans. By the way, she will still lose muscle mass from lack of exercise and gain weight from eating too much. Her body is natural in that sense
>>141216 Cool waifu facts: If someone gets obviously possessed by a demon but the demon loves you a lot then everything is fine.
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>>141221 Yeah, sometimes you just end up with a dead hand. It's a part of the game but it's a bit more of a problem with Dragonmaids. If you've got three copies of Dragonmaid-To-Order, you could make a custom deck like this: Monsters Nurse Dragonmaid x2 Kitchen Dragonmaid x2 Parlor Dragonmaid x3 Chamber Dragonmaid x2 Dragonmaid Ernus x2 Dragonmaid Tinkhec x2 Dragonmaid Lorpar x2 Assault Wyvern x2 Checksum Dragon x2 Dragon Knight of Creation x2 Divine Dragon Lord Felgrand x1 Spells Dragonmaid Welcome x2 Dragonmaid Hospitality x3 Dragonmaid Changeover x2 Dragonmaid Send-Off x2 Return of the Dragon Lords x2 Traps Guardragon Cataclysm x3 Dragonmaid Tidying x3 Dragonmaid Downtime x1 Extra Deck House Dragonmaid x3 Dragonmaid Sheou x3 Number 46: Dragluon x1 Hieratic Seal of the Heavenly Spheres x3
>>141222 So…this depends a bit on whether you’re going by Extella or by lit everything else. Because most of Extella kinda implies that there used to be a pan-human civilization back before Sefar arrived, worshiping the ‘Pillars of Nature’ as the original gods who after being killed by Sefar shattered into all the other deities (ie every Sun god from Amaterasu to Ra to Apollo being descended from this original Sun God). With humanity only developing into distinct separate cultures after Sefar killed 9/10ths of all life on the surface This is contradicted by Lugalbanda, Gilgamesh’s father, being alive at the time and being able to make a deal with Sefar on behalf of the Sumerian gods and people to avoid destruction. But the Sumerians have always been special courtesy of Gil, so whatever. Post Extella pretty much all of those implications got scrapped, going back to the previous texture model with the ‘Pillars of Nature’ just being the Olympian God-Machines and the pre-Age of Man human civilization we hear about in Extella becoming Atlantis. With all the other textures having their own human cultures at the time presumably. But anyway, yeah. We know the various cultural-spheres (Mesopotamian + Western Semitic, Egyptian, Iranian, Celtic, Atlantean —> Greek, Germanic, Indian, Chinese, Japanese (the three of which are distinct but more heavily interconnected than most) Emishi/Ainu, Australian Aboriginal, North American Indian, Mesoamerican) existed pre-Sefar in various forms, but what was going on in each of them besides the Greek and to a lesser extent Sumerian/Mesopotamian isn’t understood. …well, actually, we do know one thing. Based on the implications from Tsuki-Re, “cave men” (ie humans before civilization) were probably either the same species as or otherwise indistinguishable from Oni, back when humans were still part of the Cycles of Nature. So, you know, functionally ageless superhuman shapeshifters who could just kind spontaneously develop Planet-backed Superpowers when sufficiently motivated. But then humans separated themselves from the natural cycles and the Planet to become an independent existence, thereby creating civilization. …except, we know the Oni and other yōkai (and maybe kami? Unclear, the term “Ma”/Aberration is way too broad) had their own civilization that imploded in pre-history. And the humans used to exist in civilizations under the Primacy of the Gods, who very much are a part of Nature/The Planet. So, uh…insufficient information.
You're not getting a chain until you get up and wipe your own ass.
>>141235 >Cool Bug Facts HEY did you KNOW that insects of the Isoptera infraorder generally exhibit LIFELONG MONOGAMY with Queens establishing HIVES with a single BREEDING MALE who remains her MATE until their deaths?
If you were to fanwank a greek machine-god theo-technology perk in the fate / empires of antiquity jump as a general perk purchase, what would you price it at? 400? 500? More? I'm mostly just thinking about how knowledge of how the greek god-machine tech works and how to make it doesn't seem to be an option in any of the jumps and was thinking of just fanwanking and say it's a purchase in EoA. Also thinking of fanwanking that a demigod purchase is actually the result of a nanomachine infusion rather than being an actual direct child of a god. What do you anons think?
>>141236 Well, I've made that custom deck. It seems a bit weird to me-dropped a few cards that I got a good amount of use out of in the practice duels, but I'll try it out and see if I like it I guess.
>>141238 As is tradition if you make a thousand jumps then write a chain using that thousand jumps, then you will get a chain fr fr.
>>141237 >>141231 >>141227 Follow up question: which version of Gil is best to clobber to death with my EX+++++++ rank nonverbal mongreloid?
>>141241 If you've got any questions I can break it down for you. Are there any card interactions you don't understand?
>>141244 Not really, the card text tends to explain things fairly well. I've just been grappling with this extreme sense of unfamiliarity and sheer confusion that comes with doing something you've never really done before. Specifically, dragonmaid seems to just sorta vomit out cards all over the place and things just kinda happen, and I can barely keep up wth it.
>>141231 Are the Garou closer to humans or spirits spiritually? Also, I know they’re paranoid about Wyrm-taint when it comes to other Changing Breeds, but how paranoid are they in regards to spirits? Or are they just blindly worshipful of them?
>>141237 >the ‘Pillars of Nature’ as the original gods who after being killed by Sefar shattered into all the other deities The example of Lugalbanda/the Sumerian pantheon being A Thing at the time aside, I’m not convinced the Pillars were literally ALL of the deities mainly because we have a confirmed backstory for at least one: The mesoamerican deities, who were the Divine Filaments that originated from an extraterrestrial object older than Sefar itself that sorta drifted through space until it crashlanded on Earth. And, if LB7 is to be believed, might have some kind of history with ORT itself given that LB7’s vague backstory indicated they were aware enough of it’s change in trajectory to start terraforming in anticipation of it’s impact. >Based on the implications from Tsuki-Re There are also the very, very weird implications from Mahoyo about what it takes to survive the predators in the Nasuverse mountains. Sono-G lacks a basal ganglia and has to manually control every part of his fucking circulatory system among other things. Among other things, this is what lets him use hysterical strength at will. A sensible, rational interpretation of his noble phantasm would be that being able to bypass “unfair nonsense” with sheer strength is just a casual way of saying he hits very hard, but the Nasuverse being what it is I’m not sure we can rule it out. The crazy thing is, the Mahoyo collab with FGO kind of confirms the idea that the Nasuverse mountains are a fucking deathworld where humans have to evolve characteristics most would find fundamentally inhuman, dare I say even ORT-like in terms of sheer extremes taken to survive at all cost. Since there was apparently a random mountain god lurking around to steal Shiny Star from Alice, at a time when gods were supposed to have immigrated to another planet of existence.
How do the Garou compare to Lunar Exalted?
I've been thinking about the difference between science and magic and I came to a very simple conclusion. Isn't "magic" just the ability to distort the laws of the physical plane? The cost of "mana" then is directly proportional to how big of a distortion you wish to create and the foundation by which you create magic itself. Someone who has a solid grasp of how the physical laws function(science) should be using less mana to enact this change whereas someone using a more or less fictional standard(some would call it wild magic) requires more mana to achieve a change.
>>141233 >Apparently some magecraft foundations, like the one Kirsch and Olga inherited that was originally used to form artificial mana circuits to convey mana directly from the actual no bullshit stars, predate the Age of the Gods. Yeah thats why I listed Mages as one of the exceptions alongside heroes. >Also Himiko’s physique is explicitly because she’s close to the truly early humans yeah i dont trust statements like that anymore after Arash had that super healthy body about humans in the Age of God that made him resistant to poisons, but then nobody who actually lived in the Age of Gods had that ability.
>>141249 I mean pretty reasonable as a worldbuilding tool but there are some issues as a taxonomy, e.g. what defines the physical laws (are they with reference to our universe)? Eka Script would like a word.
>>141248 Poorly. Lunars are better than Garou in every way.
>>141249 what about the worlds that run on narrative logic and have plot armour, clear distinctions between main/named characters and mooks, million in one chance events happening consistently etc.
>>141251 Physical laws can be whatever the laws of the settings material plane are, they can be the same as ours or different(if someone has the brain capacity for all that). >>141253 Prophecy is a type of magic just like memes.
>>141246 Objectively the question could be a matter of perspective, but if you’re asking both the Garou themselves and other arguably qualified observers such as Lucifer: They are most definitely closer to being spirits. For one thing, there is no place for them in either scenario in which humanity unlocks it’s latent ultimate divine potential. >>141243 Still Archer. CasGil is explicitly a downgrade in order to focus more on magical artifacts and (crucially) own the same Gil buff that his Alter Ego form had over in Apocrypha: Common sense. It cannot be stressed enough how with Gil’s abilities, fighting smart is more of a buff than any level of additional brute force. Besides, CasGil is still confident enough to trade blows with Rinshtar. >>141248 More focused, but more efficient in that area of focus. Which isn’t to say they don’t have some capacity to commune with esoteric forces-just not to the level of complexity of sorcery, artifice or Lunar Charms that can turn entire regions into time-dilated wonderlands or evade blows by dumping someone into the Exalted Wyld. In terms of brute force I would say combat-focused Lunars are basically to the Garou as the Hulk is to those Hulk dogs that could brawl with him in the Ang Lee movie but still got soloed en masse. That’s the kicker though: “Combat focused Lunars”. It is, theoretically, possible to be like an Essence 5 Lunar who a Garou could kill in a 1v1 brawl. The thing is if that Lunar has been reasonably accomplished in life, they probably have means to ensure that Garou can never really catch them in a 1v1 brawl before getting mindfucked or hexed into a non-threat. Rank 6 Gifts, as I mentioned before, are the most powerful statted Garou abilities and in my opinion roughly on part with Essence 4-5 Lunar Charms. Even taking those into account, the efficiency of Charm combos and the flexibility of shapeshifting give Lunars more ways to win fights smartly while due to their overriding purpose for existence even the most spiritual Garou are kind of hardlocked into “you’re a werewolf, you’re big and angry”. Ironically despite what I said about the Garou being automatically combat-focused, their upper end powers DO let them attack in ways WRITTEN Lunar Charms don’t like by summoning a powerful wolf spirit. Nothing Garou do is technically outside the Lunar purview, it’s just that the writers for Lunars are REALLY bent on a certain, smashy OR witchy playstyle rather than going full furry power fantasy.
>>141254 >just like memes memes are a magic type?
>>141247 >I’m not convinced the Pillars were literally ALL of the deities mainly because we have a confirmed backstory for at least one: Like I said, it’s only really valid in even a debatable sense in Extella itself. Materials before Extella and after Extella don’t work under that interpretation of the setting, though they could have if the writers had wanted them to. The other more reasonable interpretation would be that even though the Pillars of Nature weren’t the direct progenitor of the other deities, their role as “the first” means that their memories get passed on to later beings who end up taking the same position. But even that’s pretty questionable, so it’s generally better to just accept the Olympian retcon because it broadly speaking makes more sense. >There are also the very, very weird implications from Mahoyo about what it takes to survive the predators in the Nasuverse mountains. Nasu’s been pretty consistent that the more remote an area is from Civilization the more weird shit is still lying around, and the easier it is to wander into strange places like fairylands or the Reverse. Mahoyo just puts the trend on cosmic steroids. >Since there was apparently a random mountain god lurking around to steal Shiny Star from Alice, at a time when gods were supposed to have immigrated to another planet of existence. I say this with complete seriousness: this is unironically a JoJo Reference on Nasu’s part. Remember the Mountain Gods who Rohan encounters in some remote mountainous area of Japan.
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>>141256 I mean the EU seems to think so...
>>141245 It's not as difficult to understand as it seems. You should get the hang of it fairly quickly. To break it down in detail: Your small maids are designed to get cards out onto the field. Parlor is by far the best one since she can pull any Dragonmaid card directly from your Deck into the GY. Kitchen is functionally just worse Parlor since she can only access the monster cards but in exchange she allows you to potentially keep the drawn card and discard a different card (such as pulling a small maid and dumping a big dragon you'll have access to after the Battle Phase anyway). These two cards are your bread and butter for drawing. Parlor in particular is very important because she can dump Changeover into the GY and Changeover can be pulled from the GY immediately by bouncing a Dragonmaid card (i.e. Parlor herself) back to the hand. And because Changeover can fuse from the field and hand you can potentially get Sheou out turn one, which is the standard opening move for Dragonmaids. In comparison, Chamber is your next most important maid since she can pull any Dragonmaid spell or trap card. She can be used in the exact same way as Parlor to access Changeover but she can also access Tidying to deal with an annoying monster that's immune to destruction by battle (since Tidying bounces and doesn't destroy). She's also important because, as mentioned earlier, she transforms into a House/Sheou in the GY during the Battle Phase. Nurse is important because she's your board builder. You can use Nurse to back Chamber who pulls Hospitality, then use Hospitality to pull Parlor who dumps a Tidying into the GY, then use that Tidying in the GY to pull Kitchen. In a single combo you've gone from 0 monsters to 4 monsters. Then during the Battle Phase they all drag their dragon monsters out of the GY onto the field and return to your hand. Then you can drag Changeover out of the GY to fuse Sheou. All of this can be done in a single turn, meaning that board wiping you is almost meaningless. Even destroying your entire hand as well could potentially do little if you've already got a Tidying and Nurse in the GY since you can just Tidy her to start the whole combo off even with zero cards. This is made even more brutal because Tidying is a trap card, meaning this whole chain can start up on your opponent's turn. Thus the OUR TURN meme. All the while, if House is on the field, every single time a card returns to your hand an opponent's monster pops and is sent to the GY. Your big dragons are all immune to card destruction effects if a fusion monster is present and are all fairly impressive heavy hitters with 2600 or 2700 base ATK (possibly boosted up above 3000 with a Welcome), meaning that beating them down even individually is going to take a boss monster. Breaking your board once it's set up is not only very difficult but also nearly pointless since you can rebuild it so easily if your opponent can't stop the flood. Sending individual Dragonmaids to the GY is almost completely futile because of the way the archetype works and even sending all of them to the GY is just buying one turn if you've set up contingencies. You've got three Tidying and with both Chamber and Parlor you can easily access them, meaning this total recovery can happen up to three times. Your other spell and trap cards are likewise designed to support the flood. Guardragon Cataclysm pops one of your (totally disposable) monsters in exchange for popping two of your opponent's. Downtime allows you to return a card to your hand, including one targeted by an effect, in order to +1 a Dragonmaid card. This is very useful in certain situations because it returns the card to you hand and doesn't send it to the GY. Meaning you can use it to, for example, send your improperly summoned House Dragonmaid back to the Extra Deck instead of sending it to the GY (where it's much harder to recover) if your opponent tries to pop it with a card effect. Send-Off does essentially the same thing. It's a get-out-of-jail-free card but instead of returning it to the deck it returns it to your hand and replaces it with another Dragonmaid card. In addition, the monster summoned by Send-Off essentially can't be destroyed until the turn ends. So you can do shenanigans like defensively Send-Off a card in defense position and the opponent is just kind of fucked that turn. Return of the Dragon Lords is pretty self-explanatory but it also applies to the other funny feature of your deck. Dragon Knight of Creation can, upon destroying a card by battle, dump a level 7 or 8 Dragon into the GY. That's useful by itself but importantly it allows immediate access to Felgrand. Because on your Main Phase (including MP2 immediately after the Battle Phase) you can activate its ability to discard a card from your hand to the GY and then sacrifice Dragon Knight to Special Summon Felgrand. Upon being Special Summoned from the GY, Felgrand can banish a card from your opponent's GY and in doing so gain 100 x that card's level, which can push him well above 3000 in addition to getting rid of an annoying card your opponent keeps using. And Felgrand, being level 8, can be affected by Return of the Dragon Lords which means he can do this again if you revive him that way. Assault Wyvern can start the Nurse combo up by destroying one (1) monster. Checksum Dragon buys you time and also can't be destroyed by battle if it's in attack position. Your Extra Deck basically does the same thing: Dragluon is a 3000 ATK beatstick and can also start up the Nurse combo by discarding a material and also hard counters Dragons so if somebody starts trying to get funny and steal your monsters you can tell them to fuck off. And Hieratic Seal is Hieratic Seal but especially funny here because your maids turn into their dragon forms during the Battle Phase so the reduction to 0 ATK/DEF means literally nothing to them. And it can also start up the Nurse engine even if you don't even fucking have Nurse in your GY.
>>141250 Perhaps poisons were actually stronger during the Age of the Gods. This is a joke, yeah fair enough it’s total fucking bullshit like all the weirdness about Koyan being a meteor and not Daji >>141249 >distort Define “distort”. A Star Wars spaceship distorts the fabric of space-time every time it goes into hyperspace, where physical matter isn’t supposed to belong. A Star Trek replicator distorts matter into configurations it can’t naturally take. A Ghostbuster proton pack uses mechanical parts and pieces that can be found by 90s nerds to generate streams of energy that, when crossed, can blow up a destroyer deity.
>>141260 I suppose "technology" at high enough level is just magic then.
>>141261 Thank you Arthur C. Clarke, very cool.
>>141262 This also poses another conundrum, that is, it's impossible for a world to exist without magic.
>>141259 I am going to screenshot this post and put it somewhere I can look at while I duel because dragonmeido is confusing. I did my first actual (random) duel. The other guy had this super weird deck full of "altergeist" cards that kept negating effects and pulled out this massive scary monster with 5300 attack after a bit of build up, but dragonmeido somehow let me just send the thing back to his hand and he couldn't summon it again. Then I started to get the hang of meido-ing and just kept throwing things at the wall until he ran out of effect negators while I still had a few dragons on the field, and just killed him dead.
>>141262 Although if you consider the Soul(Spiritual) enacting it's will upon the Material realm to create this distortion then they could still be considered separate, as to my knowledge Star Trek drives are not using chained-down souls as mana for their drives. They're either using separate laws to distort the world akin to glitching a game. I wonder if they could also "corrupt" the material plane if this is true. Idk much about Warhammer 40k but the dark age of technology could've led to such a phenomenon creating the Chaos Gods, or maybe they're older than humanity and some other technological race created them.
>>141265 >They're either using separate laws to distort the world akin to glitching a game. This also describes magic in many settings.
>>141255 > CasGil is explicitly a downgrade I said best, not easiest. Jumper is willing to travel to Mesopotamia if necessary to make the message stick
>>141264 Congratulations. MD isn't that stressful of a game since there isn't really a major downside to losing. So just practice your dueling and you'll get better. As you play, you'll also pick up on the meta cards and the functionality of various archetypes which will help you know what to do when you play them and generally what they're likely to do against you. Also another aspect I forgot to mention is that you should always remember that your dragon cards are also hand traps. You can play them to create effects. Ernus allows you to Special Summon any of your normal maids as a Quick Effect, meaning you can do it on your opponent's turn as well. Lorpar can only be used on your turn but prevents a monster's abilities from being activated, meaning it's useful for dealing with a monster you notice has an annoying ability (such as summoning another monster when it's popped). And Tinkhec is arguably the most important because, as a Quick Effect, Tinkhec is able to give any of your Dragonmaids +2000 ATK for one turn. Because it's a Quick Effect, this can be used not only on your opponent's turn but after the attack declaration and before the Damage Step which means an opponent can't choose to cancel the attack. The mere existence of this card has a huge impact since the possibility of you having it in your hand means that an opponent realistically needs 4600 ATK at minimum to safely attack any of your monsters or risk their monster being destroyed by battle. And it allows Sheou to reach a whopping 5500 ATK and potentially up to 6000-6500 ATK with a Welcome or two on the field. So that 5300 ATK monster could be beaten by a single Sheou if you have Tinkhec in your hand when it attacks.
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Why are Mummies considered super strong when they first awaken?
>>141270 Every splat has a supernatural power trait which is equivalent to their "Level" and is used for things like calculating rolls for offensive and defensive powers. Most splats start at 1 (but at character creation you can buy a little higher) and work their way up to 10. Mummies are unique in that they start at 10 and slowly wind down to 1 so they have to get their shit done FAST because they only get weaker.
>>141257 >Nasu’s been pretty consistent that the more remote an area is from Civilization the more weird shit is still lying around, and the easier it is to wander into strange places like fairylands or the Reverse. Mahoyo just puts the trend on cosmic steroids. But you see, the weird part is that Chaldea has been back in time a lot, often to remote regions of the world and well…humans on their own. And Sono-G is still an anomaly. >>141261 Thank you Roger Zelazny, very cool.
>>141268 Which was why my final answer was still Archer Gil, I was just putting that answer in context. >>141270 In nWoD, there are multiple tiers to Utterances that are (among other things) supported by the Mummy’s Sekhem and Pillar ratings. They start out with both maxed out, and wind down as their Sekhem cyclically trickles back to Duat, making them weaker and unable to access the strongest forms of those powers which can be things like becoming a living sandstorm, conjuring a flood out of nowhere or reshaping a building into a non-euclidean labyrinth.
>>141272 >Roger Zelazny Speaking of him, why do people mistake Nier:Automata so often for For a Breath I Tarry
>>141274 …they do? Although I suppose the Genesis allusions are kind of on the nose for both.
>>141269 ...And I lost my next duel! Because someone gave me a lava golem and I couldn't fucking get rid of it, and all my cards kept getting bounced around, and then the fucker summoned nothing but tributes.
>>141275 The joke(?) is that quite a few folks use Nier:Automata as their 'post-apocalyptic no human robot dominated world where any human would instantly become an object of worship by the robots', which I mean. In For a Breath I Tarry, that shit's hard-coded.
>>141272 Nasu likes his special boy too much to let him be made common, so the weirdos are all on Another Mountain.
>>141277 Sometimes I don’t know whether to be disappointed or hopeful that almost no idea is truly original. On the one hand, it means we’re kind of doomed to retell things that were discussed to death in ancient Sumer. On the other hand, it means the best ideas will never entirely disappear. >>141278 There are two fates for specialness in Nasuland: To become so unique the rest of the setting is made more mundane so you stand out more, or to become so ubiquitous that people you have never met and have no connection to suddenly have your face or inhabit your body. I guess you could argue there is a third outcome i.e. ORT/Kiara, in which you remain discrete but also Nasu goes out of his way to stack more shit on you. You’re not just a MERE Type, you’re one that eats planets and embodies a celestial structure that no previous lore assumed could even support an entity like yourself. You’re not just a MERE slutty buddhist, you are perfectly capable of recreating the same godhood ritual even in a timeline with no Moon Cell. Moreover, you’re a Star Eater, a thing Nasu literally just made up to glaze you.
>>141276 And another lost duel, from someone who had some insane deck full of blue eyes dragons and other bullshit.
>>141208 Hello, WoL.
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>>141271 >>141273 Can a Mummy train their powers back to being max?
>>141282 No, but this is a cyclical process. they'll awaken at full power in another time and place, and begin the process anew.
>>141281 >it's clearly meant to parallel classical depictions of the Monad or Ein Sof more than anything. Right up to having sub-divisions of itself that it fragmented between when the universe split from it. I don’t buy it as being so intrinsic to the setting as to be the true counterpart to the Monad considering that, you know, it held no command over the Father of Dragons. It’s an invader, not a foundation of reality. You might as well point to the Sephiroth/Qlippoth supercomputers in Duel Terminal part 3 or Primus and Unicron in the funny esoteric Megatron journey novel and call THOSE God since they’re unironicaly doing a better job LARPing simply by having more to do with the beginning and end of all life in their settings instead of being an external entity called over and barely aware of why it’s supposed to fuck shit up. >because the Winnower draws on a similar conceptual framework. The Winnower instigated the process of Darwinian evolution and directly advocates for selfish acts which completely contradicts basic Judeo-Christian tenets. And if the Anomaly is taken to be part of it’s communication, it outright rejects the idea of there being any kind of esoteric value above the universe as is. Also it is a peer to a thing that could be completely bodied by a mere spacefaring civilisation that glued itself together into a shitty Anti-Spiral knockoff.
>>141280 And now very easily won a duel!
>>141282 No. Not without OCP from some other jump and even then the nature of Sekhem would probably actively try to subside again. The cycles of Sekhem rising and falling being so absolute it’s nigh-impossible to arrest them is both a double-edged sword and the entire point of Mummy’s premise. The best Mummies can do is collect Sekhem in vessels and use it to prolong their stay in the material world but even that much angers the Judges. Some Mummies like the Roller speculate that acquiring enough cosmic wisdom can figure something out but there is less than no evidence they’re onto something given that Apotheosis actively WEAKENS regular Mummies in exchange from forever placing them beyond the Judges’ torment, and Ascent turns the Deceived into basically Counter Guardians but for the mysterious cosmic force of Fate itself. … …fate as in the nWoD force alluded to have something to do with both Sekhem and the motion of celestial bodies, mummies do not get isekai’d to Fate/Grand Order thank god.
>>141281 Hello!
>>141262 Reminder that modern smartphones are Clarketech.
>>141285 ...And now someone pulled out some insane Exodia deck, summoned all of Exodia, and hit me with 18000 damage. Somehow. What the fuck.
That's enough Master Duel for today. I'm gonna go back to reading bad fanfiction and playing in my own head.
>>141228 I feel asleep Nyanko (sorry about that). My code is: 21275dc6
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Hallo. What have you been up to? How are your jumps and chains going? I'm starting a chain in Out of Cruel Space and presently trying to decide who to fill out the companion stipend with.
>>141291 It's fine. Hope you had nice dreams. Code inputted!
>>141292 >What have you been up to? Took a few weeks break from thread. Jumps are in update purgatory, though I might end up poking at things that catch my interest. Chain subsequently is too.
>>141277 Because the robots in NieR are cute girls, with one in particular having one of the most iconic female character designs of all time? You could probably make cute girl robots in that, but straight male attraction is primarily a matter of visual appeal, so it's obvious why a community consisting mainly of straight males would go for the 2Booty instead of an author's lesser known work (that we don't even have a jump for, iirc?).
>>141295 >Because the robots in NieR are cute girls, with one in particular having one of the most iconic female character designs of all time? This was the elephant in the room I was dodging around/also part of the joke, yes. >that we don't even have a jump for, iirc? Eh, Generic Post-Apocalypse should work for it.
>>141292 >What have you been up to? Contemplating my own mortality as it slowly settles in that yes, yes this transitionary position really is my company paying me to sit at my desk and do nothing for 6-8 out of 8.5 hours most days (mainly because I get hyper-obsessive with clearing everything ASAP on the rare occasions I actually have more shit to do) because I’m somehow doing everything faster than my co-workers despite having the wrong kind of autism for the type of work we’re doing and being further hampered by their poor communication skills. Why I’m even in this position is a more complicated question, but suffice to say it’s all supposed to be learning the ropes of the company infrastructure so I can eventually change to a job my background is actually suited for in the same company that technically doesn’t exist yet. All the while my employer’s employer’s employer occasionally pings me to find study materials for a license I won’t need to worry about until a good few months in the new position that I’ve been inducted into an unofficial in-house study group with 3 other guys, most of whom I am given to understand are more senior than me. It is a bloody weird experience, existing at the mercy of people so high up the corporate ladder they essentially make the rules at will. I’m seriously trying to figure out some new hobby I can do at my desk unobtrusively just to not waste my remaining lifespan pretending to look busy. >jumps I am not working on any jumps yet. I am not planning to make any jumps at all yet. If and when I succumb to jumpmaker’s fever it will be after I’ve nailed down some things in my chain. >chains …the parts of my brain responsible for chain writing are currently engrossed by nWoD Mummy lore, and also inspiration just isn’t striking because the war against Viralborgia and the Axiom/Universal Will is kind of hard to conceptualise. And I refuse to use Gene’s Lovecraft jump until I’ve conclusively settled matters in DC because murdering the Supreme Archetype seems like a fitting notional endpoint to my chain, and because DC KO has basically handed me the setting on a platter. I also need to get around to writing the long man to man talk conversation where God explains what he actually intended for my Jumper, and THAT was intended to take place after duelling YISUN in the Arena Supplement, and I’d have preferred to write THAT after KSBD’s plot advanced to Allison actually mattering. But KSBD is moving like a sleepy glacier. Adopting Grail then giving her Heir of JUMPER in Tsukihime so she receives Darkseid Wank++ was my Jumper’s best long term decision ever, even though she is an awful little murderhobo.
>>141297 Still caring about/liking KSBD at this point is in many ways a lot like caring about/liking current RWBY or even current Detective Comics Comics.
>>141298 An objectively unwise thing that many anons still do, in numbers large enough to have actual discussions in thread? Yeah, I guess it is my personal preferred form of self-harm. It’s cheaper and more efficient than drugs. I am definitely at the point where I am more just “I’ve sunk so much attention into this I might as well see where it ends” than I am hopeful the complete midwit of an author can get over pretending the most halfassed relationship cliches say anything interesting about an “anti-Buddhist” cosmology, though. Bruh you’re somehow horseshoe theory-ing all the way back to regular Buddhism, ditching attachments and spreading the [ontologically correct] state to others being inherently good and all that shit.
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How do owod and nwod compare to eachother overall?
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>>141292 >What have you been up to? I awake now, not sure for how long >How are your jumps and chains going? RL schedule chokes out my jump schedule. Chain wise, I have a funny thought to take the “ Call Me Countess If You Would ” companion as the last companion in the Castlevaina Judgement jump with the twist reveal being, it was the Castlevaina Legends “Madwoman Without A Box” OC companion as a newbie to the time organization she was apart of. Meeting her created a closed timeloop that eventually led to her getting inspired enough from said meeting to cause an incident that ends up her getting branded as a rogue agent, getting caught up in an event that never happened & eventually meeting jumper to become his 2nd companion. Taking the Countess as a companion, finally breaks it. However the madwoman OC companion is beyond embarrassed when she realizes how she’d unintentionally turned her younger self into the catalyst behind the entire jump happening in the 1st place by meeting her. Aeon is less than amused since it all led to a random faithless alchemist & his moon possessed companion becoming the incarnation of Chaos & the embodiment of maddened Justice respectively instead of dying after being unable to shake off their heretic designation from the church’s increasing scrutiny like the timeline should’ve had progressed. Not like he could do anything about it now since jumper is far less hateful in a way than Drac. He only has a serious grudge with Death, the Church…& Aeon himself… >>141293 Glad to be of help.
>>141301 In what ways?
>>141301 Define “overall”.
>>141292 NG+ run of Time Stranger. Not working on a jump atm.
>>141300 FWIW, it doesn't take couple of hours to catch up. You just click five times because Abbadon updates slowly as hell now, and boom, you are all caught up. Anyway, it is still kinda pretty, even though I gave up on the plot side of things.
>>141301 Cheese and leek.
Should I jump Egyptian Mythology then Yu-Gi-Oh, or Yu-Gi-Oh first then Egyptian Mythology?
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>>141308 Bring YGO autism into real world mythology. It’s what Kaiba would have wanted.
>>141308 Yu-Gi-Oh first
>>141301 Can a Burger explain to me what’s the issue with Connecticut to me?
>>141306 Oh yeah, just to be clear I am totally caught up, I am just slowly and patiently waiting for Allison to finally proc her super.
>>141311 It's not that bad. Ohio is much worse. Let alone Michigan.
>>141311 Vampire capital of the east coast.
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>>141309 >>141310 Yu-Gi-Oh it is then!
>Generic Ricrod >? >? >? >Generic Gohanposting I need at least 3 more suggestions for a short shitpost-chain i'm going to do.
>>141316 Well Timmy/Beastposter is an obvious suggestion.
>>141317 You wouldn't happen to have a link to it, I don't think i've ever heard of that one.
>>141318 Wait, I thought these were just themes. Are Generic Ricrod and Generic Gohanposting actually Jumps???
>>141320 You know what? I don't wanna know. Good luck filling out the rest of your shitpost chain though, sincerely.
>>141316 Pokemon Blacked, Naruto Blacked, High School DxD Blacked.
>>141316 Bring Me to Ed.
>>141316 Tails get trolled
Touhou's Hourai elixir vs Marvel's Infinity Gauntlet SNAP! Can't die vs auto-die. Which would win?
>>141316 Generic Hentai Fantasy, Generic Hentai Modern, Generic Gamer.
>>141325 Stained glass.
>>141325 In a 17th century Spanish autobiography I read, some incredibly dumb and crazy person who was giving up on society and decided to be a monk did so by buying some books he couldn't read, a length of rope, some robes, and a human skull because he thought those were things monks owned. So just add human skulls.
>>141328 >>141329 Sorry, I deleted the post because I was doing a thing where I was being too specific and getting lost in the weeds again. Thank you both though.
>>141330 On one hand, that's fair. On the other hand, I absolutely would have been willing to go down the research hole of early modern church supplies.
>>141330 INVEST in SKULLS
>>141321 Good man.
>>141321 Just you wait until Generic NuBee gets made. Thanks >>141322 Why not Fate Blacked? >>141323 >Bring Me to Ed. This looks perfect, thanks anon. >>141324 Cheers. >>141327 Nah these don't fit well enough for me.
>>141331 I would have too until realizing it just wasn't that import. >>141332 You know what just for you I'm adding a thing to my Skill list.
>>141334 >This looks perfect, thanks anon. Remember to listen to edgy scene music like a bad midi cover of Bring Me to Life or https://youtu.be/rdTyUamjssc?list=RDrdTyUamjssc while reading the doc.
I vaguely remember an item that gave all the blueprints for ship and mech designs from a setting and would update for future jumps, does anyone else remember where it's from of if I'm just misremembering something else? I know there are other items that give collective updating knowledge databases and the like but I feel like those go a touch too far and all I'm really wanting is updating starship designs with the mechs being a nice little bonus.
The young lotus has just begun to show its tip.
>>141334 I am not that interesting homie. >>141338 That belongs in the horny thread.
>>141325 Stones, wood, colours and stained glass. Keeping a large cathedral intact takes a lot of basic resources.
>>141337 Halo Forerunner had the design seeds, although some of the mecha jumps might have something similar too that.
>>141298 That's a gross overexaggeration and you deserve to be hit with a rolled up newspaper for voicing it. And I'm someone who stopped keeping up with updates for a little while now. The only thing akin to current DC is its fellow capeshit in Marvel. And RWBY is a corpse of a dream.
>>141316 Sonichu.
I feel like I'm going through attention withdrawal and it's making me extra cringe.
>>141344 We're still here for you.
>>141344 Embrace the cringe, don't embrace it. It comes all the same. You just learn to cope with it.
>>141342 So exactly like ksbd
>>141344 Make a jump for.... something.
>>141342 >rolled up newspaper What are we, dogs?
>>141348 I am, but I'm saving them for Halloween. That might as well be a century away.
>>141350 Ah well then. Nice.
>>141316 I submit my For Sale, Dead Baby Shoes joke jump for your consideration. And Bookman's version of it as well. I think there IS a Generic Entomology jump out there too but it's basically DLC for the Gohanposting jump and possibly an excuse for Gohanposter to invade other people's chains and presumably violently assault the Gohans in them if I remember the last pic correctly.
>>141352 *For Sale: Baby Shoes, Never Worn jump I mean. The memory of dead babies is a strong one.
>>141353 Worn shoes, baby sale, for never
>>141353 Does anything in Exalted change if the Neverborn become the Neverworn? >>141352 >I think there IS a Generic Entomology jump There is. Gohanposter in fact, first posted in reply to me saying >Yeah, I really liked Generic Entomology.
Does five True Fae sitting down and drinking tea in a room make it a multiverse?
>>141355 They become clothes.
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Would you prefer to use DnD magic or with isekai fantasy generic magic? If no to both then what magic is your favorite? Fate? Harry Potter? >>141358 I would.
>>141355 >Does anything in Exalted change if the Neverborn become the Neverworn? I don't think that turning the Neverborn's tomb bodies into oversized spare clothes changes anything meaningfully, no. >>141356 Maybe. A relatively small one, for a given value of "small", but yes assuming each True Fae has a Title that makes them a small Myst-style pocket dimension. Of course, you're out of luck if more than three True Fae only have Titles making them hordes, relatively powerful individuals or objects.
>>141217 Forge is a rules engine for MtG, letting you make decks and play against computer opponents. The game has a bunch of different modes to play in. Quest Mode is the one that works like a normal game, where you start off with a small selection of cards and have to earn more by winning booster packs from battles and buying cards from card shops https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge
>>141360 Any Title can take a Prop, Actor, Realm, or Wisp form. If a Gentry only ever uses one form-type for a given Title it's out of personal preference.
>>141359 >DnD magic or with isekai fantasy generic magic? I mean, they're basically nearly the same, aren't they? I like Anbennar magic.
>>141362 >Personal preference And there's the rub. Told to form a tea party in expectation of it being a multiverse, I can't help but feel the average True Fae would turn into something else out of sheer contrarianism.
>>141359 Isekai in what manner?
>>141363 One is basically spam spells till you have mana/energy other is way more structured and more limited I could say. At least in fighting pow for me. They for sure can do interesting shit with Simulacrums, Wish or Shapeshift but destroy their little magic book and they are back to 0. Isekai mages don't have that limit. >>141365 Magic from any isekai as they are quite the same. I don't remember magic being really different between Smartphone Isekai and for example Arifuteria.
>>141366 >Magic from any isekai as they are quite the same. I don't remember magic being really different between Smartphone Isekai and for example Arifuteria. Eminence in shadow has magic be mostly geared towards internal stuff. Becoming a walking nuke and any form ranged options for magic are pretty much for people who aren't scrubs.
>>141359 I like DnD spells, but I actually hate DnD spellcasting, not just Vancian spellcasting, but also things like only being able to know a limited number of spells. I also am not a big fan of mana as resource to limit spellcasting outside of a game context. My ideal form of spellcasting would probably be like Harry Potter magic where you can know as many spells as you wan, use them whenever you want, they rarely cost anything to use, but with spells based on DnD spells. With the limit on what spells you can cast strictly being your skill level(like a 5h level wizard can cast 3rd level spells max, but he can use them as often as he wants and learn as many of them as he wants). >>141363 nta, but only in Overlord. Most other forms of Isekai magic are usually just really generic elemental or priestly magic.
I think once I can access my base of operations, I shouldn't have any material concerns left. Wax and cloth fibers to replace my own should be available through the Grand Workshop and Clothing Outlet, and that's ignoring the regeneration I'd pick up. That's pretty cool.
>>141366 Isekai, as a genre, has a lot of samey bullshit but the magic actually ranges pretty good. Are we talking single spells you unlock by leveling and then can upgrade, are we talking freeform imagination plus mana, are we talking magic codes into circles as a form of magical programming, are they spells based on chants or internal energy manipulation? Theres a lot
>>141355 >Does anything in Exalted change if the Neverborn become the Neverworn? Not much really outside a bunch of Tom-bodies turning into oversized goth clothes. The Deathlords might be able to open up a large series of hot topic shops with merchandise harvested from them if utilized properly.
>>141368 >I like DnD spells, but I actually hate DnD spellcasting, not just Vancian spellcasting, but also things like only being able to know a limited number of spells. It's just specifically Sorcerers that can only know a limited number of spells? Wizards can learn however many they want and Divine spellcasters have access to their entire spell list when preparing spells.
>>141372 they can still only know a limited number of spells, they can just choose what those spells are at the start of the day.
>>141359 Shit that reminds me of the spellwright series which I cant remember if we have jump for. You literally use magical languages to write your spells, one is written from your muscles and requires precise spelling. One requires you to use your skin and becomes tattoos you cast (that remove when cast) but is dyslexic safe, one allows you to read and write biological data to make or change creatures, and theres one that works via fabric so the mages create massive sheets of fabric that they enchant into flying ships. Fun stuff.
>>141373 Having spells prepared and knowing spells are two different things.
>>141373 They can only PREPARE a set number of spells unless they make them into scrolls or magic items. They can know as many as they want.
>>141372 Nta but it depends, divine souls for example know a limited amount.
>>141377 I'm assuming you mean Favored Soul, the divine equivalent of a sorcerer? In which case, yes, sorcerers don't get their full spell list
>>141379 Yes, meant favored soul.
>>141370 When I was writing that question I was thinking about magic like Fireren and Smartphone Isekai.
>>141383 Dont know smartphone but freirens "just study and cast" type is pretty cool. I like that you can bust out all kinds of stuff in a moment too, plus being able to make golems is neat.
Question for those who know Yu-Gi-Oh lore-not the card games itself, but the lore of the anime and manga. Can Shadow Duels be used for things besides banishing/killing people or trapping them in various items? Yami used it for a Mind Crush at the beginning of the series, I remember that, but mostly it's just used for killing and/or sealing thereafter. Can it do more?
>>141375 >>141376 in 5e preparing spells effectively just makes them temporary known spells. But even in 3rd edition the limit of spells you can prepare is explicitly based on the limits of the mind to know more than a certain number of spells. I dislike Vancian spellcasting either way, but I'd mind it a lot less if it was just creating a bunch of single use magic items at the start of the day like scrolls, potions, gems and the like, because then you could at least stockpile them.
>>141385 They are also usable to physically weaken your opponent, like Marik did to Joey, and in the anime Bakura could use them to make real the effects of cards, like brainwashing trapped souls with change of heart, absorbing BEWD's attack into Diabound Kernel and, even out of a shadow game, manifest into reality man-eating insect.
>>141385 Most of the times Yugi just inflicted illusions on people. You can see a list of penalty games here https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Penalty_Game
>>141385 I remember that there was a teacher in the anime adaptation of the pre-duel monsters part of the series. She was a vain piece of shit and ended up losing a shadow game against Yami, with her punishment being that she got a hideous monster face. However, the next time we see her she looks normal again, but when she starts getting angry at a student a crack appears on her face, which causes her to freak out. The implication is that she'll turn ugly again if she doesn't behave. I don't know how much of that was in the manga, or if I'm misremembering something because it's been years.
>>141386 >But even in 3rd edition the limit of spells you can prepare is explicitly based on the limits of the mind to know more than a certain number of spells. No, that's not how it works. Spell Preparation is you going out of your way to cast the longest parts of spells but leaving the spell itself incomplete, with Spellcasting later being you actually finishing the rest of the casting. You very much do still know the spells you have in your spellbook, you just have a limit to how many half-finished spells you can have cast at any given time
>>141389 >Ms. Chono's make-up cracked-up and peeled away like jigsaw pieces, revealing her true ugly face. In the anime, this would happen every time she tried to enforce strict rules. Done for her cruel habit of abusing rules and punishments as a way to relieve stress from her shady personal life, and out of her not caring for Honda and Ribbon's feelings and privacy.
>>141390 Nta, but the limits on how many you can cast in a day really irks me. I know it'd be less balanced.
>>141388 >Guy who got set on fire I don't think he even used magic for that one, I think the guy just got set on fire.
>>141391 So if she ever got a job as a drill instructor, she'd be ugly 24/7?
>>141387 >>141388 >>141389 So we're looking at illusions, sealing, "make the effects of cards become real", and general inflicting pain and death. I think I can work with that.
>>141191 That's... sad. Holy shit that's sad.
>>141392 I don't honestly understand why that'd be a problem? I can't think of any fictional wizard that casts more than a couple of spells a day as is, outside of videogame wizards who have to spam spells to get through massive health pools
>>141397 Harry Potter immediately comes to mind.
>>141397 Sorceror's apprentice. I'm pretty sure the wizards in Lord of the Rings didn't have that limit, but I could be wrong.
>>141393 yeah he didn't he just challenged the guy to a game and tricked him into pouring Vodka over himself with a lighter on his hand.
>>141386 5e lets you cast some spells without prep but they take 10 minutes to do so
>>141397 The Castlevania Netflix show had magic users explicitly without limits on how much magic they could use a day and it was awesome.
>>141397 Are you even a real wizard if your house isn't in a constant state of Fantasia? Disney movies say YWNBAW(izard).
Would Yami do anything if Jumper went to Egypt and started eating the pyramids?
>>141401 sure, it also got cantrips. If all spells were like ritual spells or cantrips I wouldn't complain. But the limits that exist for many spells that are only useful in the heat of the moment are annoying.
>>141398 Harry Potter, the setting where the protagonist knows like five-ish spells and rarely uses more than two or three spells in a single day? >>141399 >Sorceror's apprentice. That's even worse! The protagonist basically just uses lightning and animate objects in that! >Lord of the Rings That's by far the worst example of a wizard using magic! Gandalf, the most famous wizard, uses a grand total of THREE SPELLS, one to make fake horses, one to burn stuff, and one to win a battle of wills against a Balrog, and those are explicitly not magic according to the local metaphysics. >>141402 I haven't watched that particular show, but I'm fairly certain it'll still be them just using less than twenty spells in a single fight anyways. >>141403 That's what enchanting is for.
>>141388 >>141387 Nta, but I don't think those are shadow duels?
>>141405 I do love some builds though, I used to have a build that used one of the long range fire spells and spell sniper along with some other bullshit to basically reach anywhere on the fucking map at all times. Was great.
>>141404 Shadi would hunt you down and try to feed Ammit your soul.
>>141407 penalty games are explicitly the punishment inflicted at the end of shadow duels to the loser. Shadow Duels themselves are otherwise only special in how you duel, which is often turned somewhat magical like making monsters come alive and shit.
>>141400 Did Yami even use any magic there, or just bluff the fucker into killing himself?
>>141347 I get the impression KSBD is progressing exactly as Abaddon wants it, unlike RWBY. It's just that where he wants it to go =/= where his fans want it to go. >>141349 Do you want a genuine answer to that question or a pleasant lie?
>>141409 dont get me wrong its fun in a game where balanced like that have to exist. I just think its annoying if you try to translate this into a story where limits like that just make less cool shit happen.
>>141406 >Basing your arguments on protagonists, not the others in setting >"They must cast more than 20 spells in a fight." Harry Potter still counts, Dumbledore vs Voldemort (Book version, not the movie)
>>141415 It doesn't have to be twenty spells in a fight, it just has to be enough spells to make having limited spell slots be an actual concern >Dumbledore Vs Voldemort Pretty sure that also doesn't qualify, since it was just Voldemort spamming Avada Kadavra and Dumbedore using a combination of telekinesis and animate objects to block it? Been a long time since I read the books though
>>141400 YGO back then was WILD!
>>141413 >It's just that where he wants it to go =/= where his fans want it to go. I would also argue where he wants it to go =/= how it was advertised in the earlier books. I cannot imagine either Hansa or Aesma doing anything but laugh their asses off at >Strength beyond strength literally just being the power of friendship >>141397 >any fictional wizard Wheel of Time. Rand razes entire battlefields with chompy portals and bolts of balefire and stuff. Also try telling Aoko Aozaki she's only allowed to cast five (5) railgun blasts per day. Also Umineko where Witches get incredibly spammy with Red Rule bullshit when they're hyped up. Also Tales From The Flat Earth where wizards totally sling disasters at each other from their faraway towers when angered enough.
Hey this may be an odd question but do you guys know of any jumps with magic trees that allow you to import a tree to gain more properties or powers?
>>141411 W>>141411 eren't those called shadow games? In that case we should be able to include the stuff the priests did too, and the "ultimate shadow game" from Bakura. I answered only with duels to be sure.
>>141416 nta, but the fight in the books is basically like this >Voldemort is about to kill Harry with a killing curse. >A statue animated by Dumbledore takes the curse for Harry and starts protecting him for the rest of the fight. >Voldemort tries a killing curse on Dumbledore who apparates away. >Dumbledore animated the other statues, one of which instantly defeats Bellatrix as it's immune to her spells. >one of the statues attacks Voldemort who apparates into a better position >Voldemort fires a curse at Dumbledore which hits a desk. >Dumbledore uses some extremely powerful spell against Voldemort, Voldemort seems to expect a killing curse and conjures a glowing silver shield. >Voldemort shoots another killing curse at Dumbledore which destroys one of the statues that jumped between them. >Dumbledore summons a whip of fire and has it wrap around Voldemort >Voldemort transforms the fire into a serpent that attacks Dumbledore. He also apparates away shoots a killing curse at Dumbledore who's reacting to the snake. >Fawkes intervenes to tank the curse, while Dumbledore turned the snake into smoke. >Dumbledore has a bunch of water wrap around Voldemort, who apparates away and starts possessing Harry, trying to tempt Dumbledore into Killing him. >Harry's love for Sirius causes Voldemort extreme pain and he escapes just as the Ministry officials arrive to recognize him.
>>141416 Yeah, the movie fucked that scene.
Gyaruo (Male Gyaru) chain, yay or nay?
>>141423 I don't get it, I have to be a male gyaru? if so what exactly does that means?
>>141418 >Wheel of Time I haven't read that series so I'll concede the point. Although my vague accumulation of knowledge made me believe that Rand was, in fact, an incarnate god and an extreme outlier >Aoko Aozaki She doesn't use magic that often, and she DOES actually explicitly have a limit to how often she can cast. She's just cheating by borrowing more spells from the future/past >Umineko I'm... honestly not sure if Rules should count as spells? They're more functions of the Gameboards, useable even by people that reject magic in it's entirety. >>141421 Right, so it's just one dude spamming a spell while the other dude blocks it. >>141422 I haven't actually watched the movies.
>>141424 I was more asking if that should be the theme of my next chain but I didn't really clarify that well I guess.
>>141407 Shadow games are broad but mostly mean you're stuck with the rules and the penalty for losing which can be whatever. Yugi makes a scorpion poison someone, makes Mokuba drink fatal poison for poisoning Joey, explodes a student with Nitroglycerin, electrocutes a gang with water and a tazer, and traps another gang in burning graffiti. This isn't mentioning the part where he can just mind control you to say and do whatever he wants on national TV if he's not satisfied with the illusions that range from Naruto Tsukuyomi style death and torture loops to just censors on your eyes. Other shadow games can do shit like cause earthquakes in real places as the game progresses, kill you with ancient egyptian alligators or finger guns, or trap you with flesh eating insects in an hourglass, in addition to the standard soul devouring. Kaiba tried recreating his own physically and made a machine that drives people insane in 10 minutes from monster deaths. >>141420 Same thing. You're just using ancient egyptian dark magic to force a game with certain rules at the end of the day.
>>141423 All my chains are himbo chains
>>141428 Based.
>>141423 Nay. Be a loli gyaru
>>141427 Yes, I know all of that, I both watched the anime and read the manga (I forgot what he did to Mokuba at the end of the capsule monster match tho), I was just unsure on the nomenclature.
>>141406 >I haven't watched that particular show, but I'm fairly certain it'll still be them just using less than twenty spells in a single fight anyways. nope, magical characters basically constantly use magic throughout fights, like there are few moments where they aren't doing anything magical.
>>141433 Coward >>141432 Again, the point isn't constant magic use, it's if they use enough magic to make limited spell slots actually be a concern
>>141425 >Although my vague accumulation of knowledge made me believe that Rand was, in fact, an incarnate god and an extreme outlier For what it's worth Ishamael, his equal in the One Power, is "merely" a very powerful wizard gone bad and explicitly NOT the holder of some grand cosmic role except insofar as he is the Dark One's most potent minion despite his (to be fair, comeptently defended) delusions of grandeur. Rand's status as the Dragon Reborn is more of a cosmological role and less of defined buff. >She's just cheating She does plenty of rapid fire magecraft without using the Fifth, the Fifth is just what it took to overpower Touko and her fake ruins. >I'm... honestly not sure Well, would you consider the deployment of the gun girls spells? Would you consider, for example, her play-fight with Lambdadelta to be multiple spells or one consecutive application of her magic's domain? An argument could be made that a Voyager Witch's very existence is one continuously cast spell.
I think I'm going to adjust the progression, so instead of Candelydra being the B-Rank form, it's the A-Rank, with some other candle lizard type thing between it and the Giant Salamandle. Then, the Chandelydra will be the S-Rank form, going from three to nine heads and acquiring themes of Yamata no Orochi and other nine headed serpents. >(S-Rank): Chandelydra >(A-Rank): Candelydra >(B-Rank): ??? >(C-Rank): Giant Salamandle >(D-Rank): Grandle >(E-Rank): Ceremonial Candle >(F-Rank): Candle Like this basically.
>>141437 Are Chandelydras weaker or stronger to alcohol than traditional brachiating divine snakes?
>>141438 Stronger, as they just burn it off, however they lose the ability to take dramatic and well hidden subnautic layers.
>>141439 Lairs*
>>141231 >Really the biggest threats coming from vampires are more esoteric abilities like Dominate, Blood Sorcery, Oblivion, Daimonium or Malefica since Servants are not automatically immune to illusions/psychic interference They're immune to hypnosis from a modern magus due to being Divine Mysteries.
>>141441 >modern magus So...not really relevant to Cainite Disciplines? Technically if we're going by seniority the Curse is a force bestowed on Cain not long after his parents were exiled from Eden, and if we're going by power it was bestowed by GOD. Furthermore, the case of Asagami Fujino showing up in FGO as a Counter Guardian shows that psychic abilities seemingly do not matter as much to Mystery precedence.
Wait, so if I'm reading this right, this basically handles OWoD Mage Paradox? >Unveiled (600CP, discount Occultist)- If magic is real, why not tell the world? There are many conspiracies that would dearly love to make society accept magic is real. Unfortunately, hedge magic and psychic powers tend to fail when observed by skeptics. This is no problem for you though, as your powers are never hampered or twisted by the force of disbelief.
>>141443 Yep. Have fun assblasting literally every other mage in existence.
>>141237 >worshiping the ‘Pillars of Nature’ as the original gods who after being killed by Sefar shattered into all the other deities (ie every Sun god from Amaterasu to Ra to Apollo being descended from this original Sun God) How do the Greek Gods being Mechas from space and the Aztecs being germs from a meteor fit into that?
I lied about learning my lesson this >>140223 was me. I'm not fully committed to the idea, but I am currently work-shopping it in my head.
>>141444 Neat.
>>141418 The point has always been that Aesma was fucking wrong though. Retardedly powerful yes, but she was also the setting's biggest retarded and the exact opposite of who you want your path to Royalty to emulate unless say, you're Meti.
>>140223 >>141446 Is that basically what Solo Leveling/Generic Korean Portal Invasion is?
>>141449 Pretty much. I made Generic Isekai because there were a ton of isekai I was kinda interested in, but not enough to make individual Jumps for each one. This is a similar deal. Stuff like Kill the Hero, I am the Sorcerer King. Tomb Raider King, SSS-Class Suicide Hunter, The S-Classes that I Raised, and so on. There are plenty of fun ideas across the whole genre, but there are honestly only a handful that stand out as individual series.
>>141446 >Conks you on the head Finish your wips.
>>141405 >If all spells were like ritual spells or cantrips I wouldn't complain. Spell Mastery shows that you can actually cast higher level spells as much as Cantrips, it's purely a gameplay limitation that you can only master one 1st level spell.
How do you prevent your waifu from being won over by the bland harem MC's irresistible charms?
>>141452 >Cow mage What can cow magic do besides big boobs and milk?
>>141359 I’d go with a generic isekai system, they tend to be more freeform, and I’d rather run on a regenerating mana system then spell slots.
>>141453 cursed wedding rings that prevent infidelity
>>141448 Right, right. But. See here's the thing. She DID attain it. Indubitably. Without a single sign of giving a rat's ass about another living being (other than maybe that hinted-at dog story Abby never wrote) Oh, and because HANSA (who attained it effortlessly) is so much better an example (and father of the year). >But Royalty sucks Sure, I get that. Doesn't change the fact that to me Zoss' idea of the right path to it doesn't seem to hold up to the main examples. And Het, Prim and Kassandis didn't inspire shit.
>>141359 Probably DnD. It just can do more than generic isekai, outliers aside.
>>141446 The only one I can even remotely remember from ones that don't already have a jump is Dungeon Hunter and I get vague impressions from the titles of Acquiring Talent in a Dungeon and Evolution Theory of the Hunter. Dungeon Hunter disappeared at some point off the Rainbow Mushroom website so good fucking luck reading it if you decide to go for it.
>>141359 Which one has better enchanting system attached? I know 3.5 best, but hate the exp cost.
Should I do it? Do I finally break down and give my jumper a companion who is a futanari ? Why is Blade never here when I need him?
>>141446 As I recall, a number of those dungeon invasion stories have people obtaining a gamer system, which leads me to the silly thought of combining this future jump and your Generic Isekai jump. On a more relevant note, what kind of ideas do you have for the jump so far?
>>141461 You don't have to be gay, anon.
>>141460 nta, but just get Pathfinder enchanting, its just 3.5 but without XP cost. Though immunity spells are worse.
>>141463 or if you are at least commit to the bit. People are more understanding of a guy who's secretly gay, than one who's into 'chicks with dicks'
>>141461 What interests you about getting such a companion? If you can explain that, you might find your answer.
>>141463 I'm already there 9anon, maybe if you made another Collard jump i'd have something to distract myself from doing this with but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
>>141461 Why companion an abomination if you are not fully dedicated to being a faggot? Because in the end that is the only reason to want to be or companion a futa. Even the anons that want to 100% become women to get dicked are less gay then the futa lovers.
>>141467 I've been wanting a modern furry jump...
>>141467 Touch some grass, get an irl friend and stop being so desperate that you are willing to fuck anything just to feel human touch.
>>141423 Yay. But why does he look like Kel from Omori though.
>>141465 >>141468 The majority of my chains are already effectively gay, I tend to only go with one companion most of the time and i'd say by this point i've companioned more dudes than women but i've never companioned a futa up till this point. >>141469 Maybe. >>141470 Please. >>141471 It's already over for me anon.
>>141473 >It's already over for me anon. It is never too late. Seriously, do a parasite detox and see how you feel after. Those fuckers do mess with people's minds making them more gay and degenerate so that they can spread.
>>141473 >Please. Modern Collared doc created.
>>141430 No, male gyaru raising a gyaru little sister while their gyaru parents are out fighting gyaru crime or something.
>>141457 At least it was interesting finding out the boyfriend was actually the intended successor in universe at the start and the Demiurges weren't just a collection of the stupidest clowns from the circus for thinking he was. They're even worse clowns but it wasn't because of that.
>>141474 I refuse. >>141475 Based, thanks.
What are marriage laws like in Jumper's Empire?
Jesus Fuck the new games buffed the absolute fuck out of Mega Mawile and Mega Medicham. What is happening in that game that they both got +40 to attack?
>>141480 They both relied heavy on their Pure Power ability, but since there are no abilities in ZA they had to compensate somehow. This is also why people think Mega Starmie will end up having Pure Power as an ability.
>>141481 Huh, no abilities? Well it is a side game with a unique combat system so that's fine I guess. A bit disappointing to not know what some will be getting until like half a year from now or whatever though. Do you happen to know any good sites with the full mega models by chance?
>>141482 Legend Arceus didn't have abilities but they still went out of their way to hobble Regigigas again.
>>141483 >but they still went out of their way to hobble Regigigas again. Punished for raging against the demiurge.
>>141483 What the hell dod they do over there?
It's happening
>>141486 You finally touched a willing woman's boob?
>>141486 What now?
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