Is it time to continue the fate meltdown?

>>207403 >Maris Chaldea would probably not have an answer to an ORT that had regained its heart on top of all the adaptations. It can replicate the abilities and authorities of every other Beast, several of which ORT has no real answer to. It's just a question of whether or not Maris would panic and act like a coward instead of just using them to win. Shard is correct in that Maris is utterly fucking retarded. But even when it's incompetently flailing about, said flailing should still absolutely be capable of trouncing ORT if it were even halfway clever in using its stated abilities. >>207407 Fair enough.

>>207404 >Then maybe, gee, Maris should've replicated all of Flauros' powers and used them to negate HIS powers right when he was about to cast his spell. >Oh wait, she didn't >Because she's retarded It's pretty clear CHALDEAS needs time to simulate things as it spent the entire final fight doing exactly that. Also what are you even saying, simulating Flauros would give it no way to stop Ars Nova from working. >Doubt, doubt, DOUBT. You know who else Maris simulated? The LB inhabitants. The ones she is genuinely confused about why they're angry at her for toying with their lives and using their history for fuel. The ones she either refuses to go all out wiping away even though Kukulkan at least is EXPLICITLY mentioned as being able to easily take out her LB's tree, or is impotent to stop the Void Record backflow, whichever your interpretation of the final battle going so smoothly for Novum Chaldea (electromagnetic barriers STILL HOLDING UP to the fucking robo-Root's scrutinty by the way). Shard did you even read the story? It explicitely says the reason they went out of its calculations was the crypter's influence, wich it couldn't account for because of its flaws, wich obviously exist but you're overblowing them to a comical level. No, ORT is still the dumbest in the nasuverse, I think you fail to understand how immensely dumb it is, it lost against pregistorical humans, it failed to regenerate its heart because its too dumb to understand it should do that. You just give it a pass because you like how eldritch it is, compared to a human-based opponent.

>>207408 The movie is noncanon, but Shiki and his defeat are part of Oda's canon. (he shows up in chapter 0)

>>207408 >The bad type matchup for the sand-sand man as opposed to seawater killing them. I was talking about the put in a cage and threatened with drowning to death/eaten by bananas thing.

Is this what Undisclosed(Human)+PET THE CAT DO IT NOW looks like?

>>207414 >did you even read the story? I did, yes. The fact that it doesn't immediately use it's theoretically vast reality warping powers to simply come up with an anti-Crypter influence power is a massive demerit to it. >because you like how eldritch it is Hell yeah I like it, but also I am just utterly flabbergasted by how Maris had the best fucking deck stacked in the entire Nasuverse to date, legitimately shows powers dwarfing anything Manaka or Ryougi have gone onscreen instead of left up in the air, and still blundered it. All of it. >simulating Flauros would give it no way Incorrect taking it's stated powers at face value, it can and should have simulated Flauros' ability to control light to wrest control of the supernovas back. A magecraft formula is just a magecraft formula. >>207413 >said flailing should still absolutely be Okay but here's the thing. Said flailing wasn't enough to stop a Chaldea it had dead to rights. >It's just a question I don't think it IS a question considering Maris was about to crush (you) and completely fumbled the ball SOLELY because of Flauros doing his signature move. If, IF you take Maris' powerset at face value then even below full completion that battle should've gone more poorly than the Time Temple. >>207397 By the way, and I cannot stress this enough, Maris 1. genuinely thought she could negotiate Team Chaldea into surrendering to the brainrot and 2. despite being utterly impotent to stop Daybit's plans, prioritised siccing Apostles on other LBs instead of rushing to stop the one that was the most credible immediate threat (reminder LB Zeus would've just flown away into nothing if he'd succeeded) AND 3. in fact IS THE ENTIRE REASON LB6 was a threat in the first place because it was literally just some shitty wasteland before Beryl got sent in, summoned PHH Morgan, and inadvertently kickstarted Fairy Britain due to PHH Morgan having psychotic sunk cost fallacy. That alone casts GRAVE doubts on whether Maris was actually thinking propery throughout all of part 2 instead of constantly improvising ways to distract (you) while fully activating, and having a big sigh of relief every time coincidentally (you) culled a threat for her.

>>207418 Nta but maris isn't omniscient, how could she know that beryl would have summoned morgan or what she would have done, or wrestled control over the supernova before it ended

>>207408 >Examples It happens to Luffy in the first chapter It's the reason Buggy couldn't get captain John's treasure Arlong uses it against Luffy Crocodile uses it against Luffy The Admirals try to use it against the Whitebeard pirates and vice versa Every single time sea prism stone is used It's relevant in Fishman island It gets used against Jack Kid and Law use it against Big Mom Luffy tries to dunk Kizaru Law gets sunk and is only saved by Bepo It's brought up pretty much every single time someone considers eating a devil fruit >Hundreds of examples Stop shifting goalposts

>>207412 It will end around New Years. I promise Nothing if they’re going to actually introduce a part 3 instead of finally winding down. Does anyone have that video about arknights lore?

>>207409 Wait. I love everybody + Unskipplable. Oh god.

>>207418 >Said flailing wasn't enough to stop a Chaldea it had dead to rights. The only reason it didn't instantly win is because of things it hadn't calculated or anticipated and then it stubbornly refusing to switch tactics despite its own aub-systems telling it VERY strongly to do so. Maris doesn't lose because its flailing wasn't enough on its own to win - it loses because it is a fucking moron.

Oh yeah and before I go to bed, I just wanted to say that while the intent for them to be at least comparable was evident since PHH Gawain and Lancelot's comments near the end of LB6, Morgan's tree-felling session has her confirm that Barghest is in fact LB6's Primate Murder. But she never emerged as a proper Evil of Humanity because apparently Melusine-as-Albion was so imposing and was perceives as the strongest individual entity in LB6 that nobody dreaded Barghest by comparison enough for her to reach her full potential, as opposed to "merely" attaining the Beast Calamity's status by the end of LB6. Goodnight. >>207419 The issue doesn't require her to be is the problem, it just requires her to NOT POKE THE HARMLESS LOSTBELT that was literally not a threat until Kirsch delegated Beryl to enter it. Unless Nasu retcons it so Kirsch deliberately hoped Beryl would start shit in there to throw a wrench in Maris' plans (which would be one hell of a gamble considering Maris was breathing down his neck every step of the way, seemingly), in which case I rescind my complaint.

In a way, that's really inspiring. No matter how dumb you are making things as, the Nasuverse will always end up dumber. And they get payed for it.

>>207423 >it loses because it is a fucking moron. We're talking in circles a bit, but my stance is that it WILL lose to even really dumb things because it's such a fucking moron that it's crippling it's own capabilities harder than Gil's ego cripples his own.

>>207418 Shard, again, it obviously has flaws that brought it to resurrect the crypters wich are a good part of the reason we could fight it off, or its intended suprficiality not letting it understand that Ritsuka would fight it contrary to the wish to survive that he showed constantly till then, this doesn't make it dumber than the guy who didn't realize he could regenerate his heart because there was another running around. Like every singular fate antagonist it lost because it underestimated the opposition and its twisted ethical sense (Maris wanting to protect humans and therefore not fighting Ritsuka immediately, Goetia losing because he wanted his dream validated by Mash)+ an hefty dose of luck for the protagonist.

Shard, how many chaldeasi do you own? Was it like, 12ish? Does that mean you now have that many extra Olgas?

>>207428 If Shard actually get Olga in his team, I can only hope he will make her good or brearable.

>>207428 Not him but didn't he buy 7 CHALDEAS to fuse in an even bigger U-Olga?

>>207430 I think I vaguely remember something like that happening yes

>>207427 >this doesn't make it dumber than the guy who didn't realize he could regenerate his heart because there was another running around. This is literally the only part I'm disputing because during the final battle, it literally sees it's own Fantasy Trees losing and IS TOLD BY IT'S OWN PROXY the battle is going poorly and it's response, having been given enough time to process all the above facts, is to go "Am I wrong? No, this is Chaldea's fault" Yes I am saying based on circumstantial evidence it's intended superficiality is enough of a power limiter I am gaining the impression it can literally be outsmarted by things technically dumber than it, because at least they're too dumb to come up with retarded ideas like this. >>207428 Enough to make a model solar system. >Does that mean you now have that many extra Olgas? >The "Presidential Planet" is literally just CHALDEAS Yes. Send help. >>207430 No, the U-olgas all fused together into UUUU-Olga and I/my Jumper am now very sad because that means saying goodbye to E-Stellar Marie who moreso than any new character in FGO part 2 understand I/my Jumper's pain

>>207427 Oh yeah and it immediately tells it's own proxy (the Navigator subroutine that greeted Chaldea politely) to stop having a simulated personality and only take orders Maris is such an idiot that it actively rejects subroutines of itself suggesting better alternatives.

>>207430 They all fused on their own, but yes.

>>207432 >This is literally the only part I'm disputing because during the final battle, it literally sees it's own Fantasy Trees losing and IS TOLD BY IT'S OWN PROXY the battle is going poorly and it's response, having been given enough time to process all the above facts, is to go "Am I wrong? No, this is Chaldea's fault" That was explicitely about it almost aknowledging its internal flaw wich brought it to resurrect the Crypters and then refusing to, as I said ti's a flaw but not even remotely as big as you are portraying it.

>>207435 >but not even remotely as big I completely, emphatically disagree because of the sheer lopsided upset of this fight being akin to Solomon losing a fight to...well, nearly any other Servant in Fate. The flaw is self-demonstrably an immense hindrance in the thing's operation even if (you) end up whipping out Grand Servants to spank it up close, because it is operating at a level where even Grand Servants shouldn't matter but do because it's THAT bad at adapting to new external threats. I should really go sleep now. I'm actually hitting the hay.

>>207436 Well, sorry for keeping you up then. better if I stop bothering you when you wake up?

Does your favorite verse has galaxy-level feats?

>>207438 No. I'd prefer if it stayed that way.

>>207439 *stays jesus fuck

Is the root even a big deal anymore if some random autistic human can just make another one?

>>207441 my impression is that it is mostly cheap copy of the "real thing" but I'd say no regardless

>>207441 He made a shallow copy of it after winning a grail war and with some of the most impressive things in the setting and almost rewrote reality, the real thing is still important

>>207441 He just made another universe, at wich point the recording function automatically obtained the position as a reflection of the root. According to his philosophy it is shallow but look the same and can do the same functions, like U-Olga Marie was said to be able to take over ORT because she's the earth's silouhette. It's still a pretty big thing.

>>207425 *paid

>"Wow the thread hasn't moved in nearly an hour I wonder what happened?" >Posts: 2000

>>207441 The Root is still THE thing, the origin of all that exists. The "Celestial Body" that Animusphere sought to replicate is all of existence, with the Root being the origin left behind after everything expanded out from it - what Marisbilly sought to do is replicate it and then replace it through Maris CHALDEAS. And this was the ultimate culmination of the Animusphere magecraft, something that required literal generations all working together to eventually perfect and even then, it's basically a freak impossibility that has never successfully borne fruit until now; the resource expenditure needed to successfully awaken CHALDEAS is too great to occur in 99% of timelines. Maris being a replica Root means that it's a shallow copy of the real deal but said shallow copy is still de-facto the most powerful thing in the Nasuverse as a direct consequence. And had it been successful, it would have replaced the original in its entirety. >>207446 It keeps happening.

>>207438 Why yes, how could you tell?

>>207438 Better

>>207379 Moria's zombies and Fishman Island.

>>207417 Youll probably just summon a monkey. Grab HONEYBISCUITS to truly return to monke.

>>207438 Buxaverso jump when?

>>207452 When the stars align my friend.

I was actually pretty close to starting on fluff for IGSBE, until I decided on a whim to read the Reddit Jump. It's shockingly good. So good it's honestly a bit of a blow to my motivation, considering how many obvious purchases are in here that never even crossed my mind. Still, I'm this far in so I might as well keep going. Even if I'm now second-guessing my every decision.

>>207454 Comparison is the thief of joy

>>207454 >I decided on a whim to read the Never do that when making a jump for the same setting. It will contaminate the process.

>>207422 Talking is a free action.

>>207456 I know. I was just so certain that the Jump was going to be shit that I never even considered that it could influence my judgement in any way.

>>207454 IGSBE?

>>207459 I Grow Stronger By Eating

>>207459 I Get Some Boobies Everyday.

If I combine the upgraded version of Loved by God from BDSD (immune to all direct attacks) and the upgraded version of Untouchable (Immune to status effects, even those caused by natural processes like age and hunger) what could even hurt me at that point?

>>207462 >Untouchable From Gene's Generic Portal Invasion.

>>207462 Someone with a litrpg/gamer system using a technique that does damage, but is not technically classified as an attack.

>>207459 What >>207460 said. I've also heard it translated as "I Get Stronger the More I Eat" but I think "I Grow Stronger by Eating" rolls off the tongue slightly better.

>>207454 please include perks that give you a shit ton of modern knowledge and the ability to apply it in new worlds to get advantages and uplift it. Like how the Demon King was super into military strategy, the MC was a super hacker and leader of a crime syndicate, the Prince was a super spy or whatever the guy who founded the first pope knew to create the super science they have.

>>207462 Don't know either of those things, but I suppose it would be indirect attacks. E.g. someone opens a rift in the earth and you fall four stories.

>>207413 None of the other Beast's powers had really anything that could stop ORT, so it is kinda irrelevant to bring their Authorities. Not to mention that ORT could still just adapt to those Authorities too. >>207418 Also, apparently Marisbury's plan was kinda like Pucci's plan. He believed that humanity would achieve a perfect ending and just wanted CHALDEAS to deliver it sooner without all the suffering, and thus give everyone perfect information so they don't have to suffer for their ending. Maris Chaldea was just channeling her inner Olga, and as a retard, she interpreted that Marisbury actually just wanted everyone to be hallow being acting on pure aesthetics.

>>207462 Indirect attacks.

Not sure if Gene is still interested in doing a Demonbane jump, but apparently they are going to make more entries via enty/fantia in WN format like Masada is doing with Shinza.

>>207470 Except Pucci is from Jojo, an actually good franchise.

>>207473 Part 8 started to go downhill and I don't think part 9 will recover.

>>207441 From what I understood Maris just created a convincing, but not 1:1 replica of it to use it's status as the root to gaslight Nasu mechanics into thinking Earth is the center of the universe and the galaxies inside it are more real than the real ones outside the planet.

>>207474 That's better than the Nasuverse as a whole.

Part 3 was the last good Jojo run. The art shift was a mistake.

>>207424 >Fat Dog Wife is the Fou Servant everyone wanted

>>207470 >None of the other Beast's powers had really anything that could stop ORT, so it is kinda irrelevant to bring their Authorities. Not Argent but ORT canonically had no answer to Camazotz' nega-oblivion

>>207474 From what I'm hearing there are implications that the part 9 final villain and Protag stands will surpass WoU and Soft and Wet Go Beyond, which is basically gonna make them able to beat Nyarlathotep and that unkillable lizard from SCP because we were already at actual outerversal bubbles

>>207473 Eh, I think it's grossly overestimated, and didn't really enjoy it after part 4 (probably my favorite).

>>207482 A very rare opinion. I approve.

>Uniquely, you may take this opportunity to become one of the Sui Siblings here, whether becoming a new 13th member, or replacing one of the existing 12. Doing so will require further purchases for you to actually equal your siblings, and will come with many dangers What specifically you must buy to use this option?

>>207479 >Not Argent but ORT canonically had no answer to Camazotz' nega-oblivion Going by what happened in Nasu's interview flashback of the fight, Camatozotz was about to get erased in the last attack that managed to separate ORT from its heart and put it on sleep-mode. >Nasu: It was just a simple physical rushdown after every citizen and Natural Spirit invested their powers into giving him an unperishable body. The basic idea to keep attacking forever because they had no means to defeat him on a permanent basis. Camazotz favored spears, so his final move was a focused stab to the core at the center of the UFO, done through full-power flight. He was almost erased in the process, with his legs, torso, and head pulverized, but only the right hand gripping the spear survived, thus ORT's flying saucer fell to the Xibalba ground. I requested his "One point, focus only on one point!" voice line in his boss battle to be a recreation of that. ORT's coffin was made from the craters of Camazotz's spear attacks. That was where ORT's carcass dropped, so the coffin interior that the player sees once used to be ORT's crust. So batboy was just one move about to lose, but thanks to the grit and power of humanity, he managed to make the last attack count.

>>207441 Every single Divine Spirit has a direct connection to the Root and canonically would have still been fine in the Reverse Side after everything along with the Wandering Sea.

>>207477 Eeeeeh, not sure I agree with that. I dislike the change, but I don't hate the art itself.

>>207485 I always understood it as he almost destroyed his whole body, as he later describes, but he still should be able to regenerate, as he's immortal, but I recognize your point.

>>207487 Come on anon, that's barely ping damage. Here, look at these hands, you'll get better.

>>207441 He made a copy by mistake by making a copy of the Earth. And making that copy of the Earth still took a long while, resources and basically bending the timeline so he could be allowed to win a uncontaminated wish granter that would let him get the resources to build the first model. >>207477 My problem with part 8 is that it feels the same directionless mess than part 4, but without the same charismatic characters and overall fun. It tries too hard to be a million times more serious while also having some of the most bizarre stands and fights. Part 4 being directionless whenever Kira was not directly involved (and even he had some of his own pointless adventures) worked because the series in general was not trying to be serious. It was a silly place with silly characters.

Alright, if there's no issues with this or Gex, I'll be going back into the Yugioh mines. Changelog: >1.2: Renamed the second “Mystery” to “Unique”. Extended description of Masakados slightly.

>>207472 I'm mildly curious in one day checking out Demonbane, and if I like it then I may make a Jump. However, while there's more DB media available in English than most people realize, there's still a lot that hasn't been translated yet and there are a lot of other IPs I'm far more interested in before that. >>207462 Well, as you said Loved by God makes you immune to pretty much any kinetic/physical/thermal damage that isn't caused by another person with the same power, while Untouchable immunizes you to anything that could vaguely be considered a "status effect". So maybe psychic/spiritual attacks could get through? As long as the attacker isn't trying to inflict some kind of curse/hypnosis on you, it's not a physical attack that Loved by God could defend against, nor is it a "status effect" that Untouchable would negate.

>>207485 Sounds like Camazotz was only in danger of getting erased BECAUSE of the risky attack he himself made and not because ORT was actually close to killing him.

>>207493 One more update accepted!

>>207496 bug insiddee youuu

>>207497 I AM THE PERK INSIDE OF YOU

>>207484 And Heaven And Earth Took Shape, duh.

>>207490 >that's barely ping damage. Don’t you mean png damage?

>>207499 I am sorry, but it'll take a bit to find Dusk with suitably bad fingers. Accept my thanks in the meantime.

>>207500 Technically, psychic

>>207484 Heaven and earth took shape. Where Tidings Sweep specifically to become Chong

It's all fun and games until Mahoraga adapts to the concept of drawbacks

>>207490 Hands are sooo fucking erotic, bros.

>>207504 Mucho thanks.

>>207501 Im pretty sure you could also say you are a sui sibling by getting the add on directly and And Heaven And Earth Took Shape. You wouldn't have the ability to become an Anticipation of sui but wouldn't need to fear his reawakening destroying you. You could get the ability to become an aparition of sui again but better by getting Honeybiscuits. And get Tyrant to have an SUI schizo double personality, or Two shadows drawback to have sui try to take over you. For fun times. Im also pretty sure you can use the 100 cp arts assimilation option at the end of the perk to get two more specialties on And Heaven And Earth Took Shape.

>>207504 I thought that was only sword autism rather than Martial arts autism.

This should've been the ending. We were already close with the FGO timeline being a lostbelt itself, but they couldn't go the distance.

>>207506 >t. Yoshikage Kira >>207509 Thats the secret, anon. They are the same thing.

>>207479 >>207485 Also, remember that Camazotz's immortality requires him to forget everything in order to keep the immortality active. Maris CHALDEAS using that would just result in her forgetting the whole plan. So it doesn't feel like she is ever going to use that, because it would run counter to her omniscience skill or be invalidated by it.

>>207509 >The first is that you can devise unarmed equivalents to sword-based special attacks. If you can master a sword-style you can perform smaller versions of its techniques with your bare hands, your Cloud-Splitting Sword allowing a lazy swipe of your fingers to cleave through flesh and change the direction of the winds. It's martial arts autism through replication of swordtism.

>>207462 I feel like the goal would become to get you to injure yourself. Like moving your arm mid sword swing to get you to stab yourself(kinda like what Naruto did to the Third Raikage) Using portals to send any attacks you shoot directly back at you. making using some counter magic on any spells you cast so they blow up in your face. Maybe even just trick you to unintentionally activate bombs or the like yourself

>>207514 I don't think that those protections care if it is self-damage.

>>207515 Anyway, sealing and shit is the way to go. Bonus points if it is esoterica like getting sealed in a dream that never actually existed, or doing a le pattern screamer dumbassery.

>>207512 Yes, that was just to say that beast powers can affect ORT because he's bad at coping with things he can't eat.

>>207514(me) Also psychological warfare would be the way to go. Like how one of the Hassans in Fate has an ability that makes them invulnerable which can be maintained for at least a week, so enemies just pressured them into killing themselves by threatening to destroy a village they were protecting. >>207515 the BDSD protection perk is based on the authority of yourself over others, so your own attacks should pierce it.

>>207462 I would teleport someone with this powerset into space.

>>207470 ORT literally lost the first time BECAUSE of a Beast power he couldn't adapt to or assimilate. And there are several, like Kama's or Tiamat's, that Maris could use that I'm not sure it has any viable answer to. But again, Maris is dumber than your average generative AI so I find it questionable if it would immediately reach for those.

>>207508 >but better by getting Honeybiscuits. At this point just say that you are actually The Big Dragon Himself and the rest of the siblings should call you daddy. It'll be false but maybe you could gaslight someone. Maybe.

My next jump is going to be Batman Forever, from 1995. Does anyone has some good ideas of general perks? I already made two of them: one for the acrobatic skills of robin (and his skill in drying out clothes) and one for surviving in gotham (generating an aura of such pathethicness no mugger tries to mug or kill you).

>>207524 >Batman Forever, Best Batman movie.

>>206997 Please a couple of 300 pointer drawbacks, I feel more pain from having to take 400 pointers and then figuring out what to spent the extra points on, or worse, having to figure out how to get 200 more points and then being forced to take another 400 pointer because I already took all of the 200 pointers, than I do from the drawbacks themselves.

>>207524 Diamond cutting nipples.

Does the yandere drawback in JJK make the person you're obsessed with not care about you no matter what or could you win them over?

>>207526 Theme villian gimmicks.

>>207524 Like 90% sure that's already a jump and was infact a recent one.

>>207525 I agree. Batman Forever was really unique to its time. The other batman movies are way too boring and unimaginative.

>>207419 Maris is absolutely omniscient, even Gilgamesh is omniscient. Maris can just decide to know the correct answer if she wanted to, she simply doesn't.

>>207532 Nice.

>>207531 Good to know, which means i must not see this jump until i finish mine. I'm having way too much fun making my jump and the last thing i need is to contaminate the process.

>>207423 >The only reason it didn't instantly win Argent, you can make whatever excuses and cope as hard as you like, but it lost. And it would lose to ORT, because ORT would do everything better than the forces which defeated canonically it.

>>207493 >Unique - 250 CP >250 why

>>207537 Because SMTAnon wants corrections

>>207538 💢💢💢

>>207536 I don't need to cope, ESL buddy. We are literally told and shown that Maris is a universe destroyer, and that it has the power to do so rather than it just being vague sympathetic magic. Maris lost due to a combination of factors - principally that it's retarded, but also because its desire to "protect" humans and its earnest belief/failure to comprehend humanity kept sabotaging it by making it commit to massively terrible plays. These things wouldn't apply to a confrontation against ORT, even ignoring that ORT literally can't harm it and that it has access to all the abilities of the other Beasts, including abilities that we know ORT has difficulty with (because ORT is even more retarded than Maris). Maris losing to Chaldea is because humans opposing it hammers its retardation switch like nothing else. ORT isn't a human so it isn't going to treat him the same way.

>>207493 >>207537 SMTAnon, no!

>>207540 >because ORT is even more retarded than Maris Hahahahaha.

>>207521 Kama and Tiamat would be hard to enforce since ORT's main ability is already rewriting the space around it with its native habitat. Honestly, out of the all Beast Authorities that would be able to do much are already in Maris' arsenal (basically U-Olga's and its own firepower from the trees).

>>207540 >ESL buddy NTA and don't care about this debate, but aren't you Jamaican?

Has anyone tried using Paul Bunyan to chop down trees. I feel like that's an obvious use of Paul Bunyan.

>>207540 Maris CHALDEAS is a universe destroyer only if it becomes complete. And even then it is more replacing the universe by some weird logic of 'replacing Earth and updating the universe around to fit the new definition.' >because ORT is even more retarded than Maris Silly Argent, not thinking actually makes you stronger.

>>207546 >Silly Argent, not thinking actually makes you stronger. Correct.

>>207540 NTA, but could she? From what I understood she would replace the universe because of the law influence thing. That said her supernovas are stronger than what ORT has shown.

>>207542 It is very explicitly dumber than even Maris. This is a plot point - they'd have all died if ORT had stopped for one second and thought "wait, I can just regenerate my heart" instead of just unga smashing it's way straight through everything. >>207546 >Silly Argent, not thinking actually makes you stronger. If this were true, Maris would have won. Because it is literally the mother of all p-zombies.

>>207544 Jamaicans speak english, anon

>>207550 Do they? I thought it was some unholy mess of french and stuff. The more you know, I suppose.

>>207544 Argent gets triggered very easily. >>207549 Maris was thinking. She was just very dumb and came to very wrong conclusions. The power move is to not think at all. See >>207547

>>207540 >Maris lost due to a combination of factors - principally that it's retarded, but also This is absolutely not true. There is no 'but also', Maris just lost because it's a born loser. No matter how strong it is, there would never be a circumstance where it would win, because it already lost in the most favorable of circumstances imaginable.

I should learn more about arknights so I could shitpost better. The thread would qualitatively improve if we shitposted about superior gacha gaems.

>>207522 OR, you could say you're sui's child. Not a proxy like them. Actual child. Technically they're part of Sui rather than being his children, so you could call them your parents instead.

Feels like a massive weight has been lifted off of me now that FGO is over. Fate Chain wise, Jumper doesn’t have to change plans, except for maybe assimilating Guda’s gang into their Heaven’s Hole & dipping into another timeline in order to ignore a reset. Also I’m realizing that my poor boy Proto Cu never got a role in the main story or any events. Only like 4 appearances at best & 2 of them are interludes including his own. The most forgotten servant... >>207545 Pretty sure I saw a JP player using her to chop down lostbelt trees during the raid. She also does it in both Riyo events to an extent. It’s her nature to try & cut down nature to develop for civilization she said at one point.

>>207552 >Argent gets triggered very easily. Yeah we know. We've had to deal with this dumbfuck for years.

>>207548 Maris has both Anti-Humanity and Nega-Earth, which let her fuck with things at the scale of the universe and decide what the universe's laws are according to what it deems "correct". >Nega-Earth: EX A phenomenon rewriting function that denies the state of the Earth based on current physical laws, and spreads and unifies the laws that Beast VII considers "correct" across the entire universe. The Lostbelts and Fantasy Trees were designed based on this Authority. This isn't reliant on pre-existing laws - it can just arbitrarily decide how things work as it deems fit. It created 'galaxies' that fit on Earth as its proof-of-concept and then Nega Earth made it so that this is how galaxies work now and have always worked.

I just woke up; wahappen with the whole Fate ending thingy?

Sincerely, why is Argent stanning for Maris after we've seen it humiliated more than any other big bad in F/GO? This is literally worse than Gilgamesh getting clowned on by Liz.

>>207559 "It was all a dream" but tech-y. Guda is salaryman.

>>207554 You should make quality posts instead.

>>207561 ...Seriously?

>>207555 >Hi mom

>>207563 I will post the video

>>207560 No stanning going on here. Maris is retarded, but being retarded =/= it not being incredibly stupidly powerful. The humiliation ritual is separate from its power.

>>207563 Yes. I recommend some time on the balcony with a warm drink in hand, if you cared about FGO plot at all.

>>207563 See >>207166

>>207563 The simulation ended when you defeat Maris Chaldeas, so the entire F/GO timeline instantly gets deleted. Somehow, (you) are still alive in another timeline

>>207565 >file name Oh yeah, there would need to be a female version too. I somehow fully blanked on that.

>>207563 Indeed. Only Daybit and like two others end up recalling that the plot even happened at all.

>>207565 >>207567 >>207568 >>207569 >>207571 I mean they were fucking building up to that, but goddammit I was hoping Nasu wouldn't go there.

>>207555 Sounds like fun, but then I'll be incapable of flashbanging ancient dragon god living in my head with bad porn, neet living smell and total absence of self-respect.

CALLING IT NOW The Foreigner Servants(specifically Abby) will break into the new timeline and grab (you) to make Part 3 crossover shit happen.

>>207572 Balcony, tea, stare at the distance.

>>207573 Theoretically, there may be another ending or a continuation or SOMETHING on the 31st , but at this point that feels like cope.

>>207572 Eh, it does matter in the general sense since the plot of it can always theoretically happen so long as Marisbilly is alive in any given timeline and gets enough money to fund CHALDEAS's activation. So you really should just kill him wherever you find him. >>207577 Maris DOES say to Guda to wait until the 31st to fight it, but I'm not sure that means much of anything at this point.

The real question is, with the timeline being deleted as it did, does that mean I can consider the Halloween events non-canon, and therefore, I can ignore all of the weird implications of them?

>>207575 Abby will officially transcend into Best Girl if that happens. >>207577 Maybe something funny will happen?

>>207575 >inb4 double fakeout and "(You) gotta wake up..." brings you back to Singularity F, but for really real this time guys, I swear

Which Sui would fare the best as master in a grail war?

>>207571 Daybit's companion stocks rose incredibly. Although I'd say there is something appropriate about taking an illusionary simulacrum of a person on a jumpchain adventure as a companion instead of letting them perish into never-being.

>>207563 I almost wish I could see your face. >>207572 >a decade >a decade The fuck?!

>>207582 Why would they even participate? They're individually powerful enough to just win the war on their own.

>>207561 >Guda is salaryman. Honestly, after everything they went through, I could see Guda deciding that maybe a desk job wouldn’t be so bad.

>>207580 >>207581 I mean it's kind of foreshadowed by the fact all of the foreigner servants have been banned from fighting against Maris. There has to be a reason for this.

>>207582 I know shit about siblings, but I guess the blond? She looks like a good girl.

I was planning on playing Arknights sometimes in the future, but to be honest, after I'm done reading this 300 behemoth of a jump I think I will not be able to read any Arknights related text for a long time afterwards.

>>207584 >The fuck?! FGO first released in 2015.

>>207590 You should have paced yourself.

>>207590 Unfortunately for you, fate and arknights is all that will be talked about here

>>207574 You can get Two shadows or The tyrant for that.Say that youre like, meant to be Sui's vessel so he can finally awaken or something. You're truly living up to the legacy of your neet mom.

>>207570 Female version does exist, pretty much 1:1 with the male. Failed to save it in time unfortunately. >>207573 There’s still an epilogue to go around New Year’s Eve/Day & people are noticing how Mash’s NP levels are still at NP4 & that the menu title that leads to Lostbelt 0 isn’t marked as “CLEAR” yet. We got time to spare, but if you only cared about Part 2, there’s nothing left at this point. >>207575 Remember, during when M Spectrum’s Lostbelt tree was active during the raids, Several foreigner servant came in their altered, non-foreigner classes because there was a “Ban” on them appearing in their original form. Then again Meteo is a lazy fuck. >>207584 Yes it was a decade (JP wise). If NA lives in 2 years, it will be a decade for us.

>>207564 or is it hi dad

>>207584 Fgo is pretty old

>>207591 >>207595 >>207597 Jesus fucking christ, a decade old gacha with this ending. The cheer lack of dignity.

>>207588 Don't do this to me. Don't make me hope. >>207595 I'm in it for the memes at this point.

>>207584 >>207591 And to be more specific, Cosmos In The Lostbelt started in 2018. Two more years until this arc alone is ten years old.

>>207598 Remember Medaka Box ending? The Brave and the Bold?

>>207585 But which one would win the quickest?

>>207554 It's the storm we must endure, my friend, before the Golden Age will return again.

>>207601 Nope!

>>207553 Nta but no, ORT lost in circumstances comically better, where it obtained the fantasy tree so it could summon itself eternally, it could at any moment regenerate a new heart, while Maris couldn't win as long as Olga within her absorbed Chaldea's malice. Maris is dumber than Goetia, but still far above people like Gil or ORT, the latter of wich is by far the dumbest thing in the nasuverse.

>>207587 After all that shit he should be wealthy enough and/or sponsored by someone wealthy enough to not work another day in his life

>>207478 So Fou is just white haired Barghest who also looks like a Einzbern with purple eyes neat.

>>207590 Wield the almighty [skip] sword and enjoy the gameplay instead.

>>207602 Dusk or Nian.

>>207604 Pretty much the same thing. IIRC thread was bothered quite a bit at the time by Medaka Box superpowers vanishing if you grow up.

>>207574 Would mom dusk make a goon cave for you if you asked?

>>207587 After all that shit, I'd deserve to have Passionlip between my legs deepthroating me.

The only thing that really matters for my jumping purposes, can you still find the waifus in the regular timelines?

>>207612 Couldn't I just ask chinese goberment by saying that shit animu porn is mandatory to keep ebil dragon grandfather away

>>207607 >No Balatro on the phone You sadden me >>207614 Yes for most of them although given the sheer amount of exceptions, it’s now easier to fudge a way to creating those that can only reasonably exist in Lostbelts such as the fae with a little Saint Graph manipulation.

>>207615 word salad but you get me

>>207572 >>207572 Eh, it's still pretty relevant if you, like me, care about abusing the pruning mechanism, and to summon certain servants.

>>207616 >"What's Balatro?" >roguelike deckbuilder

>>207618 >abusing the pruning mechanism Interesting choice of words. The pruning mechanism is fucking retarded, but you are showing an interesting possibility.

>>207607 Does PSP emulation count as a phone game?

>>207605 Anon, Maris HAS ALREADY WON. For all intents and purposes, all she has to do is push a couple of buttons to win. Everything in Cosmos of the Lostbelt went exactly how it needed to in order for her to reach this stage of her power and nothing could reasonably stop her. This is THE MOST ADVANTAGIOUS SITUATION SHE COULD HAVE

>>207616 Now that I think on it I can get that one perk in GSBW and summon what I want.

>>207587 Yes, during the final fight he thinks about many normal things he would like to do, like being an athlete with the experiences he did, writing a book, opening a shop, being sad that he will lose these memories, but still willing after meeting Olga's soul stalling Maris to fight till the end.

>>207622 Nta but loli olga

>>207619 I-It’s fun chadanon…please…don’t look down on me like that…

>FGO ends on a wut, SERIOUSLY WUT? Ending. You know I would ask more but I am actually afraid someone would answer. This feels like Deku losing his powers and getting a job in fast food all over again but worse. I am disappoint and probably going to take a nap.

>>207563 I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

>>207587 He's even higher ranked than waver

>>207627 He doesn't even get a girl. I mean, he could have ended with Trashu or Trollga, so that's a win in a way.

>>207627 >Deku losing his powers and getting a job in fast food all over again but worse Because whilee MHA end was pretty shit, it was not as shit as brainrot shitposts led you to believe fgo ending seems to be unironically that however

>>207625 Irrelevant in any situation where Maris has one braincell

>>207627 See at least Deku's accomplishments were real and tangible, in that one could go outside and not be murdered by a gang of lunatics

>>207628 DAMN YOU NUBEE! YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS!!

>>207632 How? She doesn't know she exists and without her she would have updated the universe before we could stop her

Fuji Fire more like Kilauea Kaput.

>>207635 >She doesn't know she exists Think about this for two seconds.

>>207630 The cinematic does show that he meets the pink menace irl

>>207632 Maris literally is not aware that she exists. If it was, we would have lost before we ever got a chance to stop it.

>>207633 This is doubly bad because after this shit NA FGO is cooked. There is no coming back from this. It will be dead in a month or two if that. Now I understand why they were so insistent no one talk about it and spoil the ending.

>>207640 Would they actually care tho this thread is not representative of whale average I think

>>207638 Well, rip. He's cooked. Ending even more ruined. >>207640 Japan is a country that is pretty asstight about spoilers.

>>207633 What does that mean? Even if everyone forgets about them saving the universe is pretty tangible >>207637 Marys doesn't know loli olga exists

>>207622 >Anon, Maris HAS ALREADY WON. For all intents and purposes, all she has to do is push a couple of buttons to win. Everything in Cosmos of the Lostbelt went exactly how it needed to in order for her to reach this stage of her power and nothing could reasonably stop her. This is THE MOST ADVANTAGIOUS SITUATION SHE COULD HAVE Literally no, because of Lev's intervention Olga's soul ended up within Maris, wich made it so it couldn't complete its plan, as she absorbed the grudges of the inhabitant of CHALDEAS wich it should have used as fuel, and it's implied to be the reason it resurrected the Crypters, wich made it so the lostbelt could fight back. Please stop a moment and think THAT ORT COULD AT ANY MOMENT REGENERATE ITS HEART AND DESTROY THE WORLD IF HE HAD EVEN A SINGLE BRAINCELL, same for Gil, who didn't have any inner obstacle, he simply decided to not use his powers and win. Maris making an honest miscalculation about Ritsuka's personality because of its shallowness, wich still was pretty near the truth as Ritsuka break down after cutting the trees, is far more similar to Goetia wanting Mash to validate his dream than those examples.

>>207639 How fucking stupid are you, to not understand that's the entire point I was making? Anyone who isn't Maris would have simply checked, found Olga, and deleted her.

>>207631 I will always laugh at the hypocrisy of this kind of statements.

>>207644 >because of Lev's intervention Do you think that Maris literally had no counterplay to Flauros? Are you as much of an idiot as Argent?

>>207615 You should do that just because you'll have to explain to the Yanese government how watching bad Higashian hentai, no longer taking baths and holing yourself up in a NEET cave is essential in keeping Sui slumbering.

>>207645 Nta but that's dumb >Anyone else would have checked within his own soulto discover a supposedly mindless component was tampering with it. >>207647 >Namecalling Ok, I think we're done here, just a notice tho, you clearly didn't even read what I was saying, as I was talking about Lev throwing Olga in CHALDEAS. Anyway you just want to listen to people saying you're right, not argue in good faith, and therefore make random assumptions on what should happen, so there is really no point in talking with you.

>>207650 >>Anyone else would have checked within his own soulto discover a supposedly mindless component was tampering with it. Unironically yes. If you wouldn't do that, you're as much of a complete fucking moron as Maris and you'll probably die from eating a piece of moldy bread in the future.

>>207651 Seems I'm as bad as usual at recognizing shitposts, sorry for engaging then.

>>207619 Anon, have you ever considered the wonder of making number go up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZX_HAmbTU Okay, maybe just finding an excuse to share the song. Its still a genuinely engaging game, though, totally would recommend. >>207631 I guess I'll weigh in with my own two completely unasked for cents on this. Ultimately, I consistently see an opinion that pretty much every show and game nowadays has a sucky ending. We all have our own ideas on how a story "should" end, but when the end product doesn't match we are always are going to whine about it. The flip side of this is that many people are afraid to actually end a work, as they are always going to be worried that the ending will not be wholly satisfying. So instead of ending their work, they keep it going forever. Am I delighted with the ending of FGO? No. Are a lot of the plot implications of its events which it insists are canon going to drive me crazy? Yes. Do I think, at least to some extent, I at least enjoyed the story? Yeah. In the end, at least the story is ending somewhere, even if we all could come up with a more satisfying ending than what we got. Of course, I personally suspect we have more epilogue stuff we haven't seen yet, but this is purely baseless speculation.

>>207655 The Stupendium is one of the most creative artists on youtube. I really like how he writes lyrics.

>>207648 I don't think it'll be terribly hard to explain as to why picrel would make an ancient dragon god not exist on this cursed land Much less in this particular body

>>207659 >pic 3 Man I thought I was messy. There is always farther to fall.

>>207659 >1st pic That hand does not look right. Those fingers are way too long, and I am deeply bothered.

>>207661 First time seeing yaoi hands?

>>207660 People legit never throwing out anything is a IRL mental damage thingie that can get really, really bad.

>>207659 >>207661 Reminds me of an old oblivion mod that swapped Spriggan model for a naked lady but the long fingers were the same.

>>207661 >and I am deeply bothered >from a 2025 person Given intended purpose and target audience of this, I am making a note here; huge success

>>207662 Unironically yes. Christ, that creeps me out way too much. >>207663 Honestly, I have been to people who have severe hording problems, and that's the true tragedy.

>>207666 You know what it reminds you of? A facehugger.

>>207659 I look at this third pic as if it was a personal attack. Maybe because I give a shit about cleaning, my diet, my hygiene, and that I don't fucking smoke.

>>207668 The cartoons are clearly some sort of a dairy product, so. Imagine the smell. That, plus cigs. Plus sweat.

>>207669 Like I said, a personal attack.

>>207668 Its the fact that its spilling over everything. Like what the fuck

>>207671 Oh yeah that too! It's a giant mess.

>>207659 >"So now were skipping the rituals and going straight to torturing?"

>>207659 My house is pretty bad, but not that bad.

>>207667 That perfectly nails the feeling. I knew that I got that air of "oh fuck" from something else. >>207668 >>207669 Yeah, that third pic implies a room that needs a weeklong deepclean to become generally inhabitable. If that desk it that bad, any carpets or floors will also suck and need to get the heavy-duty floor cleaners to clean up. It sucks to see.

>>207673 >"Daddy issues"

>>207671 Look on the lower left. It is under the table. Legs go there. A person sits in that.

I now remind you of crustanon

>>207676 You do realize that this can backfire and make him rage so fucking hard he will reawaken himself at full power out of sheer seething anger?

>>207565 The Jap sincerely yearns for the office the way the children yearn for the mines.

>>207679 Septic shock should give people a chance to prepare once he spawns, at least.

You know I think when your lore gets so extremely expansive from a single entry this sort of end is literally mandatory if you don't want your entire IP to be totally inaccessible to the uninitiated going forward.

>>207683 "Expansive" is certainly a word for it.

>>207683 western comics reboots are not a thing to imitate

>>207683 Honestly it kinda changes nothing, the reveals about the lore are still canon, it's the story wich disappeared, and Nasu already uses different timelines to avoid his stories interfering with each other.

>>207684 I was trying to be nice, "series ruining dogshit" is how I'd put it

>>207686 Then this is still the worst ending possible to do since it serves no purpose and basically just rugpulls you for laughs.

>>207682 That said, maybe the other siblings would unironically stage an intervention at this point? Lol

>>207688 Nta but it's thematically consistent and justified by the story, at least I don't consider it ruined

>>207683 That's basically what I've been saying but everyone shit on me for it. Basically this kind of thing was literally required. It was the only way that FGO could've ended. And any lore that requires some understanding of FGO's events and mechanisms, which is essentially everything in FGO except for shallow material like characterizations, is likewise going to be completely ignored and shuffled into a closet somewhere to possibly be superficially referenced in future content but never actually become relevant to anyone ever again.

>>207687 and you would be wrong >>207688 It's a bittersweet ending properly explained and foreshadowed, wich goes with the themes of the story. That said I too have grievances with it, unless the cope is real and something is going to change there are various things that feel incomplete.

>>207690 4/10 got me to respond

>>207687 Hah, nice! >>207692 No. No he wouldn't be wrong.

>>207693 Not bait, after the lostbelt considering a story that few people will remember pointless would be ridiculous

>>207598 >>207627 >>207688 This is just Darling in the Franxx all over again, and I am dying laughing. The sheer salt levels are a delicious feast.

>>207693 Nta but he's right, it goes along with the theme established through all the lostbelts, believing the story loses meaning with it means you believe the lostbelts as a whole were meaningless >but what if I believe it then the ending would have been bad anyway for you because you simply disliked FHO, wich is fair, but then there is no point speaking about it. >>207694 >time to channel my inner five year old yes he would.

>>207696 I am actually pretty curious if this is a western fanbase salt or japs gonna dislike it too

>>207696 No one in my circle was into that one, what happened there again?

>>207698 that said, normie fgo communities I skimmed recently don't seem tobe exploding

>>207700 Normies consoom modern disney slop without a care in the world, their opinions mean less than nothing

>>207701 financial sux

Is FGO version of funny vamp worth saving?

>>207703 Picrel funny vamp, not that Other Funny Vamp

>>207701 They pay for everything so sadly yes, their opinion does matter

>>207701 Or maybe it's just that the contrarian irony-poisoned board of people who already hated the game and just want to shitpost isn't the most reliable source?

>>207683 The IP is already fucking inaccessible! Most of the franchise is F/GO at this point, in terms of revenue. Nothing the franchise does after this will make a fraction of the amount of money. And it wouldn't be a problem if the company behind FGO actually gave enough of a shit to put their money back into the project. Hey, why the fuck is FGO Arcade even a thing? Answer me. Why would the company spend the money to not only remake FGO in a format the vast majority of people will never be able to experience, with better gameplay, and change the fucking plot so it has exclusive content? What was the point of that? Guilty Gear also has incomprehensible lore too, but at least they made a big lore map to make it easy to get into. One Piece is over 1000 chapters in length, but that's not a problem because it's one contiguous story. Has Nasu ever though of just making a world bible instead of splitting it all up in a billion directions and constantly contradicting himself?

>>207699 All the cast in Darling in the Franxx got paired up EXCEPT for the MC and the pink haired waifu. Those two died, and were reincarnated a million years later, not knowing each other. At the time, fans were shitting blood and saying how they got cucked. I was laughing hard.

>>207707 people been making jokes about Feito being absolutely impenetrable since ten years ago yeah

>>207708 Ain't that some shit

>>207707 Only Kingdom Hearts is similarly fucked up but people get by because Kingdom Hearts is actually vastly more entertaining and hilarious when you have no idea what the fuck is going on. DARKNESS LIGHT DARKNESS LIGHT DESPAIR

>>207706 Do you believe everything your TV says too?

>>207689 Dusk stayed a neet for a long ass time without getting an intervetion, but if you got that bad youd end up disappointing shu and thats worse than whatever intervention they could make.

>>207708 >>207710 Artistic types have some sort of a brainbug that makes them step onto "It was all a dream" turd again and again and again 30+ years of following all sort of media and they are still doing this to this day

>>207682 To prepare for what? Prepare to die?

>>207713 Dusk wasn't quite that visibly self-destructive fwiw I think

The Nasuverse is trash compared to the Hellaverse

>>207715 Final prayer is very important I suppose

>>207707 >>207711 Allow me to introduce Blazblue.

>>207717 Give it some time

I never played that crap and even I can see the issue. >put a decade of your life's free time and likely a lot of money into something <the story ends with a “lol, none of it mattered and was just a waste of time for all involved Anyone who ever makesanything like a “it was just a dream” ending should be shot.

>>207707 Man, that's crazy.

>>207721 Don't forget the constant self retconing.

>>207721 There is some sort of inexorable gravity that makes artsy types think this is very good, for some reason

All of this only serves to remind me that I want to use All the World's Evil from Oasis to challenge heroes all through Fate's history as a big bad and be a major stepping stone for heroes then when all these servants come together they talk and realize you've never actually been defeated and it was just a funny ass hobby that Merlin probably helped out with because he's a funny dick.

>>207721 Honestly aint no way I'm seeing actual living breathing people here defend a "it was a dream all along" ending

>>207721 Danganronpa ended this was and everyone insists it's ludokino.

>>207712 I don't watch it a lot, and as a basis I trust really little of what I hear (wich is almost as useful as trusting everything), it's just that I enjoy the story, and find it pretty ridiculous the attitude of writing off everyone who enjiys sonething you dislike as "consoomer". As I already said you might wonder if it's simply not your cup of tea, wich again is perfectly possible.

>>207719 Almost completely dead, it gotta be at least twitching to participate

For real though, why the fuck didn't Type Moon make their own Arknights Endfield/Girls Frontline 2/Genshin Impact, if not profound laziness?

>>207717 No, it's way better and this is why people say you shitpost >>207721 You saved the universe, it's one of the most important stories, even if it will be forgotten

>>207730 they do have a bunch of games tbf

>>207729 Well yeah, it's over. Quite literally a finished franchise.

>>207731 Look anon you gotta ignore picrels

>>207726 But it's not that, you actually saved the universe, people will forget it but it still happened

>>207734 ...the third word is supposed to be "bait" I am sorry, this is actually a bit too low of a quality

>>207734 He can't help himself.

>>207735 No it didn't, it was a simulation. I will not accept a simulation as real.

>>207735 That was never real

>>207696 Same. It's so fucking funny. I knew it was coming because I have the benefit of not being invested in FGO so my perspective was more logical than emotional. So I knew that it had to conclude in a way that made sense from a franchise perspective. You can't have a single entry in the franchise and particularly a gacha mobage produce 95% of its lore content because it will neuter your franchise when it concludes. So even more so than other entry, such as F/SN or Tsukihime or even Melty Blood or Extra, FGO has to have essentially no lasting impact on the overarching franchise because of its comparative complexity. FGO has essentially eaten itself until there's nothing left and the series basically has to either continue as FGO exclusively or disregard FGO entirely beyond shallow elements that can be easily summarized to those who didn't play the game. And people will cope by saying that this is true for all Nasuverse content but it absolutely fucking is not. The events of Tsukihime and F/SN are broadly canon to the franchise and concepts from that material exists in other entries. FGO can't end like that because of how complicated it is. Not so much metaphysically but canonically. It can't end in a way that requires anyone at any future point in time to have to directly explain to someone what happened in FGO. Whereas you can generally summarize Shirou or Shiki's arcs and the events of their stories, you can't do that for FGO without shattering suspension of disbelief in a different context because of how absolutely ridiculous it is compared to everything else in the IP.

>>207717 Nah. Also again randomly interjecting just to stir up shit? Why are you surprised when you're called out for shitposting?>>207721 Again it's been the story for the last 8 years, almost all the point of Oberon as a character for example, these things mattered, even if they are destroyed, even if only one person remember them. Again the ending is disappointing for certain parts but the eeset makes sense.

>>207738 >>207739 Nta but the simulation was substituting reality, that's the plot.

>>207734 I was ignoring most fate news but for the day it will be the only discussion I can talk about >>207738 >>207739 Ok it is a videogame incredible you noticed on this board

>>207742 I will NEVER accept a simulation as real Nasu.

>>207740 I never played a day of fgo but I will always shit on dream endings

>>207716 The only difference is that she had her painting things to clean her mess for her.

>>207740 >Same. It's so fucking funny. I knew it was coming because I have the benefit of not being invested in FGO so my perspective was more logical than emotional. So I knew that it had to conclude in a way that made sense from a franchise perspective. You can't have a single entry in the franchise and particularly a gacha mobage produce 95% of its lore content because it will neuter your franchise when it concludes. So even more so than other entry, such as F/SN or Tsukihime or even Melty Blood or Extra, FGO has to have essentially no lasting impact on the overarching franchise because of its comparative complexity. FGO has essentially eaten itself until there's nothing left and the series basically has to either continue as FGO exclusively or disregard FGO entirely beyond shallow elements that can be easily summarized to those who didn't play the game. And people will cope by saying that this is true for all Nasuverse content but it absolutely fucking is not. The events of Tsukihime and F/SN are broadly canon to the franchise and concepts from that material exists in other entries. FGO can't end like that because of how complicated it is. Not so much metaphysically but canonically. It can't end in a way that requires anyone at any future point in time to have to directly explain to someone what happened in FGO. Whereas you can generally summarize Shirou or Shiki's arcs and the events of their stories, you can't do that for FGO without shattering suspension of disbelief in a different context because of how absolutely ridiculous it is compared to everything else in the IP. Braindead take, Arknights is doing fine.

>>207745 Same.

>>207744 Then you should really exit the nasuverse quickly, as it is the fundamental of tons of the setting, among wich the powerset of the most famous protagonist.

>>207703 If you want, her & Nemo are GURANTEED to die at the end of Part 2 since she's a Lostbelt existence (& Nemo decided to stay with her.) >>207717 I'm not falling for bait so low. Acknowledgment of your post is as far as I'll go.

>>207707 >One Piece is over 1000 chapters in length That's less time than a playthrough of P5R if you read the manga and don't take like 10 minutes on each chapter tbh.

>>207740 It's about as canon as extra, showing a possible future and giving lore but not being the basis on which the setting stand

>>207750 I think jumpchain ticket prolly could bail one out of this mess, even if they are technically not real

>>207747 Arknights started as a mobage. It's two entirely different situations. And even Arknights is likely to face issues if they don't retread lore ground in future games as more people who don't play gacha or mobile games enter the fandom as a result of Endfield shifting away from its roots.

>>207753 ...so that is why I am asking

>>207727 That's because Danganronpa fans are into dogshit to begin with.

>>207746 Damn. Well, I guess it runs in the family. Maybe Sui is also secretly a neet, just too big to find a hole to crawl in

>>207743 Make an arknights build makee a jump

>>207750 Even if the lostbelt is pruned honestly she shouldn't be too different, FGO part 2 didn't change her meaningfully.

>>207747 Arknights started as a gacha game and is a newer franchise, tho. It's setting up the groundwork for every future product.

FGO's ending is literally just the MC closing the FGO game after finishing it and going back to the wage slave lifestyle. Everything that happened mattered as much as the player closing the game and going back to their routine. Truly the peak of self inserting. Sasuga nasu sama.

>>207740 Eh, it probably will have random parts referenced without much elaborations, it's canon, but not really relevant to anything else.

>>207752 I'd agree but my counterargument is that the events of Extra are far simpler to summarize and digest than the events of FGO. The issue isn't the metaphysical aspects as I said; the franchise can continue by simply reintroducing those concepts if it wants to reuse them. It's the sheer scale and absurdity of FGO's story. Extra's story, while crazy, is still relatively simple to comprehend and functions mostly on preexisting metaphysics and materials. It contributes little to the overarching cosmology of the Nasuverse itself since it doesn't really add a lot to it. It uses a lot, but it doesn't introduce too many important new ideas. FGO does. And that's a massive problem going forward if those ideas aren't easy to divest from FGO's events and require an explanation of FGO to utilize. Does that make sense?

>>207761 >going back to the wage slave lifestyle He's higher ranking than Waver btw. Also I know this is bait but will still engage, the point is exactly that all of that had meaning.

>>207754 >Arknights started as a mobage. It's two entirely different situations It's a different situation to the extent that the Nasuverse, as a franchise, is just F/GO now. There's a reason Ordeal Stall was a thing, and it's because the people at TM know F/GO is all that Fate is now, it's where all of the fucking money comes from and ending it seems like a terrible financial decision. But while you're right that Fate can't continue after FGO because of the scale of FGO, you're wrong because FGO is Fate, and trying to move on from it is like cutting off your head to save your arm.

>>207757 You dont understand it, do you? Sui's slumber was all part of his plan to achieve perfect NEET status without losing face. The rituals to keep him sleeping are just feeding his Neet lifestyle.

>>207711 Kingdom Hearts is easy enough to parse when you accept the premises. No, Xehanort can't just time travel freeform like Merlin can, he has to jump through a thousand hoops involving splitting into his Heartless and Nobody, then completing his Chain of Memories. Yes, the world is made of Light and Darkness, and the numbers Seven and Thirteen are important for that reason. Yes, capital-M Memories are important and foundational to who you are, to the point that any person who has your Memories in them metaphysically counts as being (you). Yes, the Mind, Body, Heart, and Soul are all technically different things (though the Soul and Body are usually found together). Yes, you can seethe so badly about getting body-jacked that your conscious mind animates your own armor and hunts down the old man who stole your body (and Heart, and Soul) for ten whole years. Yes, you can make Thirteen of yourself by gaslighting some impressionable teenagers, making clones of the ones who get away, and using your shared DARKNESS (read: negative emotions) to overwhelm their wills with yours. Yes, Mickey Mouse is not only the King of Disney Castle but also a Keyblade Master, who knows about the Door to Darkness. The key (heh) here is suspending your disbelief in the metaphysics long enough to engage with the world and story as it is.

>>207763 My point is that in canon kara no kyoukai, mahoyo, tsuki no sango, strange fake, are as relevant as fgo

>>207763 Not him but I can't think of absolutely anything from FGO more notable than the pruning, wich is constantly reused. honestly FGO is more the opposite, beside archetype's lifecycles and the age of will as a concepts+ some classes and a bit of lore about specific individuals it doesn't really add a lot to the cosmology, and these aren't things as fundamental as the limited amount of universes.

>>207767 Depressed ancient dragon literally falls apart, news at eleven Would sufficient neet depresso result in siblings falling into eleven kids of their own?

>>207725 The best part of the Legends jumps is the confusion Servants feel when you summon them in one of the modern jumps.

>>207761 >wage slave lifestyle. MC have job. Not all of us here can be so successful as him.

>>207771 Is NEET hole rot just a part of dragon procreation cycle?

>>207768 >then completing his Chain of Memories From what I remember hearts can time travel, so after splitting his heartless can simply time travel, am I forgetting something?

>>207725 >>207772 >"Guys, I'm literally Satan, did you expect me to lose to you guys?"

>>207771 Dusk is not a single mom so I don't think so. Unless they need to sink even further into the neet lifestyle for that to happen.

>>207772 The best part is doing a Literally Goetia build and then being on their side when they fight Goetia

>>207779 Bringing Goetia to fight Goetia, featuring Goetia.

>>207764 >He's higher ranking than Waver btw. And that does fuck all for him. It's not going to pay his bills and he doesn't get royalties or money from the clocktower for his rank. He can't even use the skills befit of his rank to make money because he got the rank without even being able to cast basic reinforcement. He still needs a job and the only thing having such a high rank could get him is a sealing designation because people would want to open him up to find out what makes him a good master to servants despite being a shit mage.

>>207780 I am you from the future

>>207771 I'm pretty sure Feranmutts can't be fragmented further, otherwise the CCP would have already tried that to better contain Sui.

>>207758 Haven't read the jump yet and every time I consider making a jump I stop at thinking at all the options and how to balance them, for example how do I balance drawback for a setting where one origin can respawn three days after dying and the other can't,

>>207783 Maybe shards need to grow up some for that to happen

>>207776 Depending on how you fluff it you may actually be more like proto-jesus who can take evil from others and put it inside of yourself in a weird form of carrying other's sins. It just so happens that you get a chunni power up rather than turning water to wine. Which makes it funnier when you use it for stupid shit.

>>207783 What youre saying is that if we want more dragons well need to breed them directly?

>>207784 Make them more about being alive really sucking for you rather than something trying to kill you.

>>207776 >If you're so much stronger than me, why did you summon me to fight for? >funi

>>207782 That would be the best way to mindfuck with Goetia. "You are a retard, the idea is sound, but unperfect, came back to it later. For now, enjoy this human redhead's pussy. Or don't, lemme keep it lmao."

>>207789 Strange Fake did this with Manaka

I can't believe Mashu made FGO a simulation all along just to keep you from having sex with anyone besides her. You gotta appreciate the dedication, if nothing else.

>>207788 Yes but then the other origin? Do I make exclusive drawbackk that put you in danger that the first can't take? I was even thinkin of leaving only the mortal origin both to give myself more freedom in making drawbacks and for other reason but it's really bad. It's being a side character in universe

>>207792 Mash being the super secret yandere mastermind is a great idea

>>207787 Don't seggs a volcano anon

>>207789 >I know that the last time we met was like 2000 years ago, but I'm gonna be honest with you - you still owe me those 5 coins and I kinda need that payment. I'm kinda homeless

>>207791 When did manaka appear in strange fake?

>>207786 "I'm actually both Satan and Jesus btw." Annoying Christian Servants: "W H A T" "You guys take your stupid religion shit way too seriously." >>207789 "You are literally my wife, do I have to beat you again?" "What those girls? Also my wives."

This ending was predicted three years ago https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/85828796/#85830564

>>207797 the new prototype thingie, muh bad

>>207775 Yes. First, there must be a version of you in the time period you are going to. This is why Ansem SoD goes to visit Young Xehanort. Two, once you cast off that Heart and send it back in time, it needs a body (or a form that doesn't need a body) to stay in the other time period. A Replica works (which is why the Nort Court needed so many of those), as does being a Heartless. Three, you have no conscious memory of time-traveling once you go back to your own time, but the Memory is engraved on your Heart and may affect your thinking/actions going forward. We also know of a few ways to break these rules. Lifeboats can send a Heart forward permanently even without a Body on the other end, but they're weird Master of Masters supertech, and you still need some kind of object connected to you and someone who Remembers you. The advantage of the Lifeboat is that you can skip ahead to a point in time where you don't exist yet/anymore. This is how Maleficent did the thing. Sora accidentally broke the normal time travel rules by using the Power of Waking incorrectly, but he has no idea how to recreate that and accidentally'd himself in the process (with enough of a time delay to finish the game). Merlin can just do whatever like he did in the movie he's from, and so can Yen Sid to some extent, probably because they are Disney Wizards.

>>207792 >respecting Mash >ever

>>207795 >>207799 Get this guy out of the time loop

>>207794 >every other waifu and potential rival gets fucking erased, or at the very least loses every bit of character development and connection with the MC >Mash is the only one left >'conveniently' runs into MC >since she's his only connection with his adventures in the simulation, combined with the bond they shared, he's going to want her with him >Mash has the MC all to herself forever >Mash won the Fujibowl without any contest SASUGA, MASH-SAMA!

>>207804 I have no idea how I got through anti-spam

>>207802 Ok, yes, I remembered the rules, was confused by the chain of memories wording. On the other hand didn't really remember how the lifeboat worked, so thanks anon. I tried playing the mobile game but got bored after a bit.

>>207754 Endfield is still very much a gacha; and more than that, it clearly functions based on the idea that you're already familiar with the general gist of Arknights so it doesn't bother to reintroduce what it assumes are basic concepts to you. Anyone using Endfield as their starter guide to the setting is a retard.

>>207795 I will seggs a volcano, anon.

>>207805 Lilith jumper you are our only hope

>>207793 I mean, unless a big chunk of your drawbacks were just going to be "something is killing you" it makes more sense to just drop that drawback altogether, as "life fucking sucks" works as drawbacks just fine whether you can respawn or not.

>>207810 Lilith is our only hope from the darkest timeline.

>>207808 ...or stumbled on it by accident, maybe

>>207810 >>207812 Kill monster

>>207785 My headcanon is that the amount of fragments that results in a Feranmutts death depends on its power level. Sui Xian was a giga-nigga Fera, so he fragmented in 12 pieces. Meanwhile Lifebone only fragmented into 3 pieces. >>207787 Correct. And it's canon that Feranmutts can breed with mortals, btw.

>>207815 >Correct. And it's canon that Feranmutts can breed with mortals, btw Wait, it is?! What?

>>207816 since when gods can't fuck bastards in existence

>>207717 Didn't think you'd ever stoop to posting bait so terrible, yet here we are.

>>207809 You are surely a brother of fire atronach brotherhood

>>207816 The higashinese royal family breed with the fragments of Not!Orochi to improve their bloodline. It's canon that you can breed with Feranmutt fragments

>>207817 Do we have a example of one of these niggas?

>>207820 ...who fucks

>>207811 I thought about a lot of drawback based on mental issues different characters have, or contracts that punish you even after you respawn, but still it's a bit restricting, with pretty horrible drawbacks, and the greater problem that for that origin the main setting of the jump is a videogame, which not only is almost harmless, but also forces you to stay for a good portion of the jump outside the main setting, with things you accomplishents not influencing your life.

>>207795 It must be pretty hot in there. Imagine having a dick that can survive that. How pleasurable it must be.

>>207820 Did it improve their bloodline or are they still jobbers?

>>207689 All of the siblings together couldn't stop a full powered Sui.

>>207825 With TES alchemy all things are possible.

>>207825 You just gotta be a feranmut too.

>>207810 Lilith is a pathetic jobber

>>207827 not that sort of intervention anon

>Visit some Fate jumps to pick up magecraft >Apply learning and training perks in future jumps, improve to the point where you're Grand level >Make a Reality Marble and stuff your pockets full of miniature worlds and other shit >Go to F/GO >Blue screen CHALDEAS by creating an unfathomable number of Singularities >Farm them for materials to create your own fake World >Stuff it full of every piece of entertainment media produced by humanity using Internet Magecraft >Declare that F/GO is a work of in universe fiction, and therefore, you can absorb it into the World of Fiction Tell me how this isn't possible. Because as I see it, the facts established in F/GO would lead me to believe it totally is

>>207832 CHALDEAS is just going to have that shit destroyed, assuming Alaya doesn't get you first.

>>207832 I don't even understand what's your plan, what's the world of fiction?

>>207833 Did you seriously imply Alaya would do something??

>>207828 What about a Potion of Releasing Elder Scrolls 6?

>>207836 Do you really want bethesda to release ES6?

>>207836 More like a Potion of Releasing Good Games.

>>207836 Can't wait to see what trash Bethesda will cook up. Just imagine playing Starfield with swords for 80 dollars.

>>207832 >improve to the point where you're Grand level I mean, you can just pay for that right away.

>>207839 why do you even care about dead things

>>207835 It always does something... when it's inconvenient.

>>207840 just by jumping feito sequentially you can be grand++++++++++++++

>>207835 It can and will fuck you over even during the Bleaching. The entirety of the Ordeal Stalls feature it being a raging cunt towards Chaldea.

>>207805 Why wasn't she erased again? She was a test tube baby developed by Chaldea and without part 1 events she would die very fast.

>>207841 Because people still believe in Bethesda. The common man must accepted there's no studio that survived the enshittification of video games.

>>207846 why do you care about normies

>>207835 >>207842 It tends to send some servants to solve the situatikns, and firce people to take weird workaraounds to avoid her

>>207826 Presumably they are juiced up ancients with the primordial might of their ancestors. But we don't know for certain since we never meet one in the game. Also, Higashi is like the least jobber nation in terra. They actually win pretty consistently.

>>207833 CHALDEAS has never acted directly in that way, unless you're talking about the Apostles. Those guys are losers. IF you're talking about Novum Chaldea, I'd simply explain from the very start, and everyone would believe me because perks for that are remarkably common, and I would show them proof, that F/GO is a simulated reality.

>>207847 Care is a strong word. I just find them disappointing.

>>207845 The most likely suggestion I have is that Fou's indipendent manifestation ensures his sacrifice is still valid.

>>207851 "can't wait"

>>207845 She was born before the lostbelt, so she wouldn't be erased, after that who knows, maybe her lifespan was prolonged after marisbury plans proved impossible, maybe fou still sacrificed himself for her, maybe daybit healed her

>>207853 Regardless, srsly speaking, this thread turned in a dire warning about getting attached to stuff in general

>>207853 Because nobody has ever used hyperbole on this board

>>207845 Don't think too hard about it.

>>207856 fr nuf

>>207551 Probably thinking of Haitian and old (like a couple centuries back) Louisianan Creoles.

>>207858 fairnuf

>>207832 As long as you can mass-produce singularitues and keep them safe while Alaya summons servants to dismantle them the first parts are relatively easy. The conclusion is more complex, declaring a timeline fiction isn't that easy, maybe I would take the kaleidoscope to help.

>>207858 >>207860 frnf

>>207862 earmuf

>>207862 Don't blame me if this pops up again

Fairy Enough.

>>207854 I see, but isn't Mash born in Chaldea and the Lostbelt starts when Moneybills participates/wins the war before all that?

>>207865 fairy jump got no builds sad but maybe its just jump saturation there were like ten jumps

>>207524 A personal soundtrack sung by Seal.

>>207717 Why did you celebrate Christmas on 25th December instead of 7th January?

okay anons I had too much and it is time to slep anyway have fun

>>207833 >>207861 It is concerning the strongest criticism of this stupid idea is that someone might try to stop me, and not the actual feasibility of it

>>207868 The music alone makes the movie 10x greater.

>>207563 >not expecting the salaryman ending in the year of our lord 2025

>>207849 This is very useful information.

>>207871 Why would it be stupid?

>>207867 If you mean the Alfheim one, I assume that is because it was a WIP. Unless there was another fairy one I missed?

>>207871 Declaring the timeline fiction is the actually unfeasible part - I just didn't bother questioning it because I assumed you had some way around that.

>>207873 Things WILL change.

I was thinking of making a jjk ability that is basically "Invest power into making a creature and then store creature for later use" like I start out with a stone or other material and I pump it full of as much energy as I can and when I am ready I activate it to birth a creature of my own design made of the material I started with, with power levels dependant on how much I have invested into its creation. Im kinda thinking of making them angel themed but may branch out into other forms at some point. What do you guys think? Im aware its similar to the one guy on the team with his beasts but Im thinking it may be different enough what with the creature designing aspect and me being able to mame more. Should I change it up more? Add somethin?

tbh theres a big chance for a better ending on new years but i love the seethe, so I hope it's worst somehow.

>>207880 >The ROOT is the origin of all things, yes. But... What is the origin of the origin? >I present to you: the SEED

>>207871 Creating many singularities in a short time,trasforming reality in a world of fiction are both unrealistic, with a lot of jump you might manage it, just like you might do many things outside the scope of the jump

>>207880 >Guda wakes up >Everything has been a dream(again), you are in singularity 1, see you in 10 years for the next loop.

>>207877 I had several ideas for how to do it, with escalating levels of 'I'm trying too hard', so I simply elected not to mention them at all. The most likely to work is using something like DC or Medaka for their metanarrative manipulation perks. I'm sure there are jumps much lower scale than that with appropriate options, I think OPUS maybe? Re: Creators?

>>207849 From now on, jumper is gonna be Sui's half feranmut child. Its just too funny.

>>207884 To trasform a dimension into fiction? All those things seems way too weak

>>207598 Kinda makes me glad FFBE ended with 'the adventure continues' even if I kid mid-Season 3. >>207668 I remember on /b/ you'd sometimes get people posting their rooms back, and they varied from 'absolute fucking dump' to 'literally a mattress on concrete in a brick room with a computer connected to the smallest CRT monitor'

>>207886 I disagree, I actually felt shameful for suggesting them because they were so overpowered.

>>207888 Seriously? It's like asking if by publishing the bleach in that dimension you can transform soul society in a fictional story

>>207889 *bleach I was writing something else and the remained

>>207889 If you've been to DC or Medaka Box, you could absolutely do that. Look at those jumps, you'll understand

>>207881 You mean the egg?

>>207892 Yes but with a higher power level

>>207893 kek

>>207891 I have seen the jumps, but at least the metanarrative perk of medaka box wouldn't be enough not even capstone boosted, you would need all fiction. From dc I don't remember it very well but still I don't think it's enough to alone trasform a reality in fiction, at least not without the meme just a shadow

Which race would you change to if given the chane? >inb4 that one anon changing into a candle

>>207896 All Fiction doesn't do that. It just erases shit from existence, including abstract concepts like 'color'.

>>207892 Koyanskaya got scammed considering they are not sending her ass to space after the timeline got erased.

>>207897 Either a dark elf or an anthro horse guy.

>>207898 You can argue if all that remains of the reality are your stories you transformed it in fiction. In that jump it's the closest thing to your objective

>>207901 Uh, no it's not. You're just wrong dude.

Need the Sui plot to hurry up and resolve so I can figure out how viable getting every Sui as a companion is. Because I like a few of them quite a bit but it feels wrong to separate them.

>>207897 T-1000 is pretty cool

>>207897 Probably a Blacklight Runner and focus on improving my biological powers early on.

>>207903 All you have to do is become SUI so they wont die anymore if he awakens.

>>207897 Green Martian from DC. Sure the weakness to fire is a big flaw but complete shapeshifting with planetary telepathy compensates a lot for that.

>>207899 You must take the dumb egg fox(s) and spread your combined offspring across the cosmos. Or at least in Servantverse.

>>207902 Ok, I gave you my opinion, you are free to ignore it

>>207612 where are these smelly neet dragons from

>>207907 >Sure the weakness to fire is a big flaw Fire is famous for never killing a human

>>207903 They get separated for fair amount of times anyways. And it might be a good idea, if they're separated then Sui will never awaken.

>>207911 I agree, which makes the choice even better. All a martian needs to deal with his fire weakness is to shapeshift his eyes out and phase into the ground. It's ridiculous how overpowered a Martian is.

>>207906 I don't think that's how it works. If you become Sui then the siblings will be your fragments, and as soon as you're awake, the siblings will die.

Worm doesn't have the whole 'punch someone into unconsciousness without causing them brain damage' going on like most superhero worlds right? Is there a place where I can get a power to do that before going there?

>>207897 I want to be a transformer/Cybertonian >>207899 Fraudulent foxes deserves to get scammed. We'll never have to worry about her ever again.

>>207912 They separate for a long time because they're immortal and don't need to count every passing day. But they very clearly hold affection for each other. Even the antagonist among them is literally doing what he does out of fear of losing them, and grief for their dead sister.

>>207880 I honestly would have preferred Guda dying alongside the rest rather than having him become an empty shell bearing his likeness but devoid of all the memories that defined him.

>>207916 You could try learning the Vulcan neck pinch in a Star Trek jump. It's not quite what you're looking for, but it's functionally pretty similar.

>>207897 Whatever is strongest is my default answer to these types of questions. The first thing that comes to mind is an Asari with a penis. My second thought is my futa cyborg-psyker-biologically ascended nudist plant girls from Stellaris.

>>207897 There are many I have entertained. Mermaid, lamia, arachne, some kind of dragon, ghost, vampire, werewolf, minotaur, some kind of lizard person, gorgon, et cetera, and that's not counting copyrighted ones like Inklings, Zoras, Argonians, and Tauren. As for what I would be given the choice, I don't know what I'd pick in the moment.

>>207916 In the Worm jumpdoc. Biosculptor or whatever its called. While you punch them, flood their brain with sleeping chemicals. I'm sure this won't have any problems.

>>207901 Actually, the best option to pick if you wanted to crack the Nasuverse open would be Contradictory Conjunction or the Style creation perk. >Doctor Stylish: Styles are quite special, even among Skills. Makeable, if you know the right way, and capable of just as much power and even some things Skills cannot do. You're a Stylist equal to Fukurou, the creator of Styles, himself. Just by constantly using, considering and playing with a certain phrase, idiom, way of using words or other word-related game, you can create new styles. Things on the level of Provocation Style might take just a few weeks whilst a mid-level style like Label User or Kanji user might take months of repetition. The high level stuff can take years or even longer to make, such as Contradictory Conjunction, but is still possible if you are patient and uninterrupted in your work. You'll also find that you effortlessly master any sort of word-based supernatural power, possessing much more strength than any of your peers would with the same sorts of powers at your normal level. >Contradictory Conjunction User: Every day, miracles are happening around the world. From child birth to heroic feats of courage and strength, the everyday impossible is always happening. But you're not about what's just every day. You make the really miraculous things happen. When you use this style, usually by reciting the word 'therefore', you are able to make the least possible thing in the current situation the most possible thing. A girl cutting an airship in half or winning against an opponent they could not ordinarily defeat at all. It's a mighty ability that, with careful use, can allow you to succeed in almost all things. But it cannot make the impossible possible and it will only ever make the least likely thing into the most likely, which may not always be exactly what you want to happen.

>>207916 Wait three days and use my Batman Forever jump.

>>207897 Lastly I keep thinking about superman so maybe Kryptonian or Viltrumite. Kinda like Viltrumite because no sun still no problem but Kyrptonian is still way stronger and versatile.