I assume >>57661 got deleted because OP accidentally put in a space on the old thread link. >>57615 >I dunno, that was a long time ago and I don't remember where my head was at. Understandable. While I know it’s unlikely you will update it in the future, please make a note to consider adding one if you ever do. As a thank you for your time, I offer the coin of the realm.

>>57665 I would've had it ready minutes earlier, but the website was claiming I was flooding

>>57660 I like DCAU Circe. She was mostly redeemed as she just wanted to be a singer and troll Hippolyta, but not kill her. She was even really simple for the heroes to defeat as she gave up willingly just to hear Batman sing. I would hang out with her while in JLU if just to try and get her more singing gigs and non-fatally troll the Amazons. She might be companion material, But I would have to see how she and jumper got along.

>>57666 You are correct, Satan.

What would your jumper do, if they were in Mass Effect as their first or second jump and Shepard melded with Morinth?

>>57659 >and great place to start a chain. Debatable. I'd rather wait until mid-chain to start getting large harems, and mid-to-late to conquer nations. And considering the jump basically wants you to take over the elves I can't justify going there until later.

What are your Jumper's usual hair, skin, and eye colors?

>>57672 Dirty blond, bordering on auburn sometimes. Vaguely tanned Hazel or green

>>57672 He's a skeleton

>>57671 The jump doesn't want you to take over the elves. The ELVES want you to take over the elves. Because they can't get laid >>57672 1) Blonde hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, 2) Curly red hair, bright green eyes, and heavily freckled lightly tanned skin, 3) Being an albino with pink eyes

>>57663 >keep hornyposting to a minimum You're not the boss of me.

>>57676 Dragon Type A is my personal prefference

>>57676 >You're not the boss of me. Why must you tempt me so, anon? I've done nothing with the powers 9anon gave me and the urge to mess with you is near overwhelming.

>>57672 Brown if I want to keep a low profile, white if I don't care. Roughly "okinawan". Various shades of blue.

>>57676 Oni type A is adorable and lickable.

>>57678 >>57676 Also, sheep horns are my favourite

>>57676 Cow types are great handlebars.

On the subjects of skin colors and horned creatures, and recommendations for unnatural skin colors?

>>57672 White. White. And bright pale blue. >>57676 Sheep horns is best.

>>57671 Baalbuddy is best if you roll with the joke and do not fuck elves. It would be a great place to explore adn learn magic as it connects so many places. Waifus are jokes there and I do no think they would be worth it, same as with Victim Girls. Just go, gain some powers, bang a lot of women you wont see again and leave. >>57672 >hair, skin, and eye White, Caucasian and glowing green >>57670 Second jump, I would ignore the plot and just go exploring. I don't care if that universe gets destroyed. >>57676 As a side sleeper, I just imagine horns getting in the say of sleep.

>>57676 One Piece Type A

>>57683 Grey's a fun one? It's offputting enough to be visible, but it's also something that can occur IRL so you don't need a perk to make people overlook it

>>57683 The color out of space.

>>57642 >Feels like you could have an isekai perk of some kind. I cut a couple options along that line because I didn't want to deal with the extra complication. >Would this also make high heels as supportive and maneuverable as regular footwear? No, but I have added that as a clause. >Don’t keep me in suspense here. Also, given this is a 400 CP perk, it seems like the bottom of the range should be a little higher than 5. Fixed typo, increased lower bound to 6.

>>57683 >and recommendations *any recommendations

>>57621 >you won’t have access to your perks or items, with the exception of your body mod You seem to be missing a "from previous jumps" in there. As written, it seals perks from this jump too.

>>57687 Same with blue/purple.

>>57683 Purple.

>>57685 >Baalbudy I fully agree, the best thing to do is in Baalbudy is to go in with some harem and beauty perks alongside your waifu and let her be smug, brag and mock the elves about they will never have a man as good as hers. >Victim Girls Till valk made the TSF world jump that was the only place O could go to waifu Cagliostro, so I admit to having a soft spot for it.

>>57691 Thank you, fixed. >>57683 >>57676 Draenei continue to be great.

>>57670 Facepalm and cry because I fucking told him she would kill him. Try and pick up the slack because my ME build can kinda sorta work for what Shepard does, and I /do/ have contacts and even a friend among his crew. Suicide mission is kinda not a suicide mission for me / anyone near me because I can always crawl away to the warehouse and then into the medbay. I still have trouble with the rest of the series because most of it relies on connections that Shepard made in his Alliance military and Spectre career (I'll have SO MUCH FUN convincing the Quarians not to exterminate the Geth). If all else fails, pack up the warehouse full of tech and shit then fuck off to some nowhere planet to live out the jump.

>>57692 >Look this up >Excessive exposure to silver turns your skin blue What the hell.

>>57695 But what about the horsecocks?

>>57697 To be fair, it has to be a lot of silver over a long period of time Or you have to ingest it. Used to happen more than you'd think back in the day. Especially back when you used to put silver compounds in medicine.

>>57695 >Draenei continue to be great. And with your Collared Colonization jump, you can make Draenei a normal part of future worlds.

>>57549 That Orc is probably as tall as the Knight. But Diana here is bigger than a woman on horseback and stomps enemies to clear them in combat.

>>57694 >mock the elves about they will never have a man This is the way to go. Always remind the elves that they are single. I remember that one BB comic of a single elf girl telling the others to stop demanding to be raped so much and they all hated her for being a simp. It was funny, but would tap that elf at least for being a decent person and not annoying.

>>57663 It'd post in the horny thread but since it has futa which is anathema to me, I post here instead.

>>57694 Give the elves a cock growth spell so you can watch the chaos of the elves trying to force other elves to grow cocks to take their virginity, but then having to deal with elves not being lesbians and not wanting to fuck an elf.

>>57704 Azula question, if she had a third "friend" that wasn't at the Boiling Rock, would she be more trustful and clingy or paranoid that they would betray her like the others?

>>57704 The horny thread is mostly just Nyanko posting off-model Gardevoirs with massive tits and ass

>>57707 >off-model I'm surprised people use that term outside of /vp/.

>>57706 >paranoid I believe its this one. My evidence is what happened when she became Fire Lord (Fire Lady?)

>>57672 Black hair, light brown skin, dark purple eyes Roughly like the attached picture(I usually hate ai, but all characters in fiction I could find were twinks or demons and the like, so I quickly generated one, no idea why it's shirtless)

>>57710 >pic You look like a bollywood character

>>57705 Much like this Anon >>57704 I hate futa stuff. Used to just not be interested in it, and therefore ignore it, but the amount of people putting futa in GB threads and tagging futa doujins as genderbender has made me actively dislike it.

>>57711 Don't rag on that jumper. He needs to lead the men to war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MyUGq7pgs

>>57711 I am middle eastern, it's close enough.

>>57706 Paranoid, she would try to impose herself more, scare him more, ensure he has no choice but to obey, and unless extremely helped probably she would still end up deciding she can't trust him and exile/jail/kill him

>>57715 Not your fault your nation doesn't have its own movies industry to compete with India complete with insanely handsome men.

>>57714 Not ragging on him, just an observation. Bollywood is well known for its very handsome men.

Why are Wonder Woman's enemies so crap? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D3tVfqzYis

>>57719 Post it in the banner thread.

>>57716 >try to be only friend left >paranoid Azula watching him >he tries to help >tries to give good advice >Azula tries to exile him >he refuses to leave because friends do not abandon friends >Zuko show up to challenge >dude is chained up next to Azula in a Slave Leia outfit

>>57720 She was written based on a guys live in mistress and BDSM slavegirl. They are all about her submitting to men and liking being spanked.

>>57720 Because Maxwell Lord turning evil came out of fucking nowhwere.

>>57706 I agree with the other Anons, she would grow more paranoid and controlling till she invented up with a reason to have you imprisoned before you left her like every else in her life On the other hand, if after all that you still help her escape after her being defeated by Zuko, she might chill a bit Or you could do something extreme, like take a (seemingly) lethal wound protecting her, after she had her spiral into insanity, to try and convince her you are the only person she can trust.

>>57721 Gonna see if I can't improve the quality first.

>>57720 Because all her writers were having too much trouble writing her stories one-handedly to come up with non-trivial/purposefully pathetic enemies that aren’t liberally lifted from Greek mythology/OCs that at least have a vague god theme, enemy Amazons, or just manufacturing the concept of “Wonder Woman but evil” over and over again.

>>57722 I wonder what Zuko (who presumably met you either when you were children, and presumably in a different relationship, or when he returned to the fire nation) and Katara (who at most will have you seen chasing them with Azula and her friends) will think about it.

>>57697 >>57699 Die hard Smurf fans rejoice!! >>57720 Because she can literally be beat by BDSM so her enemies have to likewise have silly weaknesses. >>57727 >come up with non-trivial/purposefully pathetic enemies that aren’t liberally lifted from Greek mythology/OCs that at least have a vague god theme, enemy Amazons, or just manufacturing the concept of “Wonder Woman but evil” over and over again. To be fair Ares was a jobber even in the myths

>>57719 >>57726 The straight red text doesn't look great there. I'd give the text a background like the couch gangbang banners.

Still gonna finish the rest of my 'episodes' for Chara's first jump but I've been brainstorming his next two builds in advance for Chara in his next jumps. Jump #2: Kirby Classic Build: Chara: Age: 13 Sex: Male Species: Dreamlander - (Boss Monster Look-a-like) Background: Royal (Drop In) Perks: Dream Buffet (This Jump Only) Dream Battle: Chara’s attacks won’t do anything more than disable an enemy or knock them unconscious unless he’s trying to kill them. Additionally, he can choose to have any enemies he’s defeated be immediately restored to tip top condition the moment they leave his line of sight. (200) Dream Life (This Jump Only) Dream World (This Jump Only) Dream Element (This Jump Only) Popstar: Chara has access to the entire Kirby soundtrack. In addition, he can play his own theme in the same style (Voice of Reason). Victory Dance: Whenever Chara achieves some notable victory, a short jingle will play, during which he can initiate a short victory dance. Any nearby allies will also hear the jingle and feel compelled to join in. If he doesn’t have any allies nearby, he can produce two powerless clones of himself to dance alongside him for the duration of the jingle. Shaped Like a Friend: Chara has two faces. One of which is an incredibly cute disarming goat boy, a pastiche of his brother. The other, a terrifying smile and soulless void eyes, ‘the funny face’ reborn. (50) Heart Matter: One has to wonder why Dark Matter doesn’t simply possess Kirby directly. Perhaps it's not that they won’t, but they can’t. Like Kirby, Chara is wholly immune to any unwanted possession, mind control, or supernatural corruption. (400) Power: Copied Ability: Sword (Regal Theme, Delta Rune Crest) Bonus Game: At the conclusion of every significant “stage” or milestone of an adventure, Chara will be able to take part in a peculiar “bonus game”. If he performs well in this game, he will receive some rare or helpful item, whether it be medicine, trading cards, currency, or just some delicious food. He only gets one shot at each bonus game. The nature of the game can vary slightly between adventures. Sometimes this game will manifest in the world, but usually he’ll be taken into some tiny alternate dimension that exists solely for this game. (50) Star Power: Final Boss: Chara is like a force of nature. Entire countries are powerless before him. (400) Existential Routine: Chara is immune to negative lingering effects of psychic possession or corruption. He won’t experience any unintended lasting effects once it passes. This doesn’t make him any more immune to such effects, but he won’t find himself (any more) traumatized or his brain fried once the psychic threat has run its course (unless that was explicitly the point of the effect, to torture him.) Lovable Heel: Say what you will about Dedede, he knows how to put on a show. Chara has a similar charisma and flair for the dramatic that lets him effortlessly gather an audience for any presentations or events he has in mind. Even if he gathers infamy, people can’t help but want to see him in action, if only in hopes of seeing him knocked off his high horse. Items: Stolen Star: This strange ball of light is an actual star that was once torn from the night sky. Visually, it is a ball of light, small enough to fit in the palm of a human hand. It produces nowhere near the light, heat, or energy of the stars one may be familiar with, but on a metaphysical level, it is indistinguishable from any other star. It’s up to Chara to find a use for this. True Arena: A peculiar arena has been added to his Warehouse. By entering here, he can undertake a continuous gauntlet where he is somehow able to battle perfect copies of every major enemy he or his allies faced over the course of the current Jump. He can also choose to access “The True Arena” where he battles against alternate universe versions of the various enemies he faced that are significantly stronger than the ones he’s familiar with. He will be able to re-challenge any notable enemy from any Jump he’s been to, including those from before this Jump. (200) Castle JJJ: What is a prince without subjects to rule over? Chara now has his own castle, overlooking a large territory that will follow him between Jumps. This territory is populated by a variety of species commonly found on Popstar, with Waddle Dees making up the majority. This population recognizes Chara as their rightful ruler, even if they aren’t entirely sure what a prince is beyond someone who lives in a castle and bosses people around. In that sense, they’re actually quite easy to manage. As long as everyone gets plenty of naptime and snacks, they’ll never think to question his authority or competence. (300) Drawbacks: Usual Suspect Chara has a real talent for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Whether it’s the arrival of an alien invader or a nightmare demon corrupting the land, he will often find himself at ground zero. His affinity for such incidents has earned him a (perhaps deserved) reputation. Whenever some major incident seems to be going down, he’s usually the first one people point their suspicions towards. +200 Upon entry to Dreamland, DDD decided on a whim to blast Chara with a cannon. This somehow caused all his perks and powers from Generic 80s Cartoon to be scattered all around Dreamland as “shards”. Chara must collect these shards to regain his former power. While nobody else can use these shards for anything, those who find these are possessed by an irresistible feeling of greed and protectiveness towards these shards. +400 Jump #3: SatAM Build: Chara: Age: 15 Sex: Male Royalty (Drop In) Mobian - Boss Monster Perks: Pretty Prince(ss): Whether he’s a guy or not one thing's for sure and that's the fact that Chara’s a looker and nobody can deny it. His stunning appearance brings all the gals to his heels (and some dudes too), and his charms may just start fights between potential suitors trying to win his heart. Okay, maybe that's not exactly an upside but it's definitely a lot like home. (Free) Sorcerer: This world may be one of great technological advancement, but hidden beneath the surface are mystical forces greater than mortal minds can comprehend. Chara learned how to harness these forces, gaining truly terrible power in the process. What he’s capable of? The better question would be what he isn’t capable of. Teleportation, mind control, forcefields, shapeshifting to perfectly mimic others, turning others into barnyard animals, stealing someone's speed, turning his foes to crystal, he can do all this and so much more. With years of study, he may even discover how to open portals to other dimensions such as the void. Depending on his technological aptitude he can also learn how to create devices like a belt or a crystal computer that can cast spells for him. His powers are so sick even Sonic and Robotnik would be completely helpless to stop him. (800) Items: Royal Signet Ring: This is a beautiful and intricately designed ring that was passed down to Chara by Asgore. The primary purpose of the ring is Identification. Simply by showing anyone the ring, they'll be able to tell that he is, without a doubt, true royalty and after that the matter will no longer be in question. Convenient. (Free) Mobotropolis: Since he’s royalty, it only seems logical he’d have a kingdom of his own. He possesses a city much like Mobotropolis before its conquest by Robotnik. It is fairly utopian and possesses a mostly robotic police force and military, though one Robotnik would have an incredibly difficult time taking control of. The existence of such a place will be of great interest to Robotnik, so he will find himself in a war quite soon, but this may also be the best chance anyone has had to do that egg shaped freak in since the fall of Mobotropolis. (200) Companion: Canon Comrade(s): Princess Sally Acorn. Sally Acorn is likely to come into contact with Prince Chara Dreemurr during her fight against Robotnik, especially given his plans to overthrow and decimate the human tyrant. Chara was informed of Princess Sally by Jump-chan explaining the setting of this world to him, and he’s already intrigued by her. It’s likely the two will grow a rather close bond through a mixture of mutual admiration, circumstances, sympathy, and personality compatibility. (x1) (100) Drawback: Smuggest Thing Alive: Look, Chara might be great and all but maybe sometimes he should cool it with the attitude. For the duration of this jump, he has such an absurd level of confidence that he rarely takes anything seriously. He'll goof around on the job, handicap himself in a race, take the time out to taunt his enemy and all because deep in his heart he doesn’t think there's any way he'll lose. He absolutely loves to polish his own horns. This tends to annoy his friends too, so it’s not a surprise if he finds himself given the cold shoulder from time to time. (+100)

>>57729 >Zuko Oh, I didn't know you were into that >Katara What the hell?

I'm tired, my dog seems very sick, and I accidentally gashed my Achilles. I'm about to roll over and try to sleep and hope things are better tomorrow. Goodnight, I hope all of you have a pleasant evening.

>>57734 Speaking about that in what relationship were you? Since when do you know each other, and how do you interact in the jump, now I'm curious.

>>57735 Good night and good luck, hope your dogs get well.

>>57735 Sleep well. May the tides of fate be calmer going forward.

>>57735 Damn, I hope things are better for you in the morning. Have as good of a night as you can.

>>57621 >>57738 >Your Fetish World How far would I be capable of taking this if I chose "Endosoma/Safe Vore?" Would the people in the world be capable of eating each other, or would there be large friendly animals?

>>57740 I'll...leave that your interpretation.

>>57736 Assuming you were a guy, such as Mei's brother or some other noble child sent to protect and guard the princess, it could be more friendly with Azula seeing it as subservient. Bonus points if you are prideful and have honor. Heck, you might even be her royal betrothed depending on her father and politics. So imagine Azula telling you to do something with Zuko to make him leave and you just be nice to the kid and shoo him away. With team Avatar you can pull the "its just my job" and be chill with them. They might not know you as well, but Zuko could tell stories. In the end Azula might snap and claim the honorable way to force a guy to always stay near her is to finish the marriage after being crowned. I just thought it would be fun to try and help her while she is crazy and not giving into her attempts to run you off.

>>57732 >>57721 >>57719

>>57742 Fair, lmao.

>>57742 In that case it might be worth adding a sentence or two about whether it can or cannot change things to allow otherwise impossible or impractical fetishes.

>>57744 Much better.

>>57746 C'mon, man. Let people be fucking weird.

>>57748 Clear rulings are my kink.

>>57749 >Clear ruling: Let people be weird

>>57747 Good enough then. To banners it goes.

Good news, I have a loom that can add protective magic to anything I make on it. Bad news, I have zero idea how to operate a loom.

>>57753 Hit it with a hammer, that usually works.

>>57663 Jumps with comfy trains?

>>57755 Are you looking for prebuilt items, or diy?

>>57743 Ah, I thought you made a similar build, I, in mine, already know I secretly sabotaged the war effort, tricking Ozai in stalling, but helping Azula and trying to help her, up to fighting Katara and letting her capture me in the final showdown, and in doing so ensuring she's far enough Azula couldn't attack her.

>>57753 Looms are so easy to use primitive people can make them out of string and sticks.

Everdark Fulghor is literally the coolest fucking thing ever Best jumps with the coolest Centaur (or whatever-taur) options?

>>57758 Easy to make =/= easy to use.

>>57758 That's cool. I still don't know how how to use one

>>57761 Look up a youtube video.

>>57735 That's unfortunate. You and your dog will be in my prayers. I wish you the best.

>>57757 This was a fun little side build for Avatar where you are her friend. Personally, I enjoy the og Avatar jump where you start when she is like 9 and I used my out of jump powers to pretend to be a type of dream spirit to attempt to therapy her. I thought it would be fun being her semi imaginary dream friend. At least she could have someone to talk to that wouldn't be her dad. At least wake her up for when her mom says goodbye. During the day I was going to just move in and out of the Spirit World delivering messages for people.

>>57746 Maybe later. For now, I'll just say 'fanwank responsibly.'

>>57764 Ah, you're the dream spirit anon? We already talked about it then, I even posted a bit of the comic.

>>57697 alternatively be injected with the zombie virus cure

>>57761 >>57760 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey68uVUuyvs

>>57756 either or

>>57770 Railroads is a jump all about trains, Fallen London:Sunless Sea has space-faring trains.

>>57766 I think it would be fun. People might assume spirit because what I can do. But spirits would just look at me ans claim I am a strange human.

>>57755 Being a Novakid in Starbound means your racial ship has a western train aesthetic. If you're not a Novakid then you pay an extra 50cp to get the look.

>>57771 >Fallen London:Sunless Sea did you miss the comfy part

>>57774 He asked for comfy trains, not comfy settings.

>>57697 >silver exposure causes blue skin Huh. The Orokin are gold outside, silver inside. They have a silver lining.

>>57765 >Picks "wanking irresponsibly" for the fetish

>>57515 Pure fucking sex. Hot Damn

>>57777 >Every girl in the world is constantly masturbating. Hot, I think. Also probably messy.

>>57765 Honestly even if given the chance I would never actually impose my fetish on a world in JC. Because even though it is my fetish I'm aware that it's objectively horrible and a terrible thing.

>>57778 Gotta have a lot of Charisma perks to stop Soi fon from eye fucking Yoruichi whenever they're in the same room.

>>57781 Couldn't you be a shinigami related to Yoruichi? Soi Fon extremely dotes on Yoruichi's little brother, be a third sibling, or an artificial soul modeled on her.

>>57759 DND 3.5 got the Tauric creature combo which lets you combine anz humanoid/monstrous humanoid upper half with any animal/vermin/magical beast as lower half. This can get pretty crazy. Like you could have a creature with the upper half of a lizard man and the lower half of a sphinx if you wanted to. And that is before you apply even more templates, like nothing would stop you from making the result also a half dragon or a vampire, or even add some more body parts as a chimera

>>57781 I don't normally go for her. And I don't care for the character as is. But damn that is some hot art. I'll just use it for an OC companion somewhere else.

>>57784 If it can interest there are expy of her and Yoruichi in the Naruto jump.

Dudes of Legend jump is go.

>>57786 Nice! I'm working on my Cosplay Fetish Academy build now, but I'll look forward to reading this tomorrow.

>>57786 ...What the fuck even is this?

>>57786 Neat.

>>57789 Official parody.

>>57789 Aggressively 90s. It'll make more less sense if you read the original document.

>>57735 Hope things get better, Bee. Sleep well.

>>57735 Damn, bro, can you stop injuring yourself every 5 seconds? Hope your dog gets better

>>57689 >Home >A “modest” 10-bedroom home. >modest Given the subject matter, a somewhat ironic word choice.

>>57795 The house is one kinky bitch.

>>57790 Hey 9anon, I'm going to bed soon so my build won't get done until tomorrow, but I was wondering if this excerpt from said build would work for Your Fetish World (don't worry, it's just pretty basiv ENF, and not anything too out there) While I can swap what this does from Jump to Jump, 99% of the time it's going to be used to make world of “precarious clothing” style ENF. What this means is that female fashion is now going to be in styles VERY prone to wardrobe malfunctions; like extremely short skirts with no panties, also commando with way too loose pants, dresses mostly held up by the wearer's positive thinking, and so on, all made from easy to tear material. With the girls still not wanting to be seen exposed despite the accepted fashion, and reacting just as badly they should when the inevitable happens.

Update on the "Particle Style assassin clan" lore: Jumper's dad, the head of the clan, is hyper-obsessed with producing the perfect heir for the overall good of the clan at the cost of anything else, however he is incredibly charismatic and never overt about his motives because he's hyper cautious. Due to his obsession, he chose to have a child with his sister because she was nearly as strong and talented as him and he was sure it would create a freak mega child. Everyone in the clan keeps this origin a secret from Jumper on the orders of his dad, but his mom at some point learns of the dad's real plan - to force Jumper to kill the dad and his mom to completely kill any humanity in him and leave the only thing in the world he has to live for be the clan itself. When the mom learned this insane plan she tried to kill her brother out of love for her son, but failed and fled to the Rain village, joining the Akatsuki for protection. The dad figures this is even batter, as he'll now make his son kill off his mother under the concept of her being Jumper's aunt (not technically a lie) and then give him the revelation, which will trigger Jumper attacking him and killing both his parents.

>>57797 Based taste, anon.

>>57798 That's cool and all, but I don't really see why the MC's parents need to be siblings. Like you could just make them cousins.

>>57800 It's more shocking as a plot twist

>>57786 Son of a bitch I have to add this to my ninja chain now. Fuck.

>>57799 Excellent. Good to know that'll work then. I'll post the full build sometime tomorrow. Have a good night all!

>>57786 Any news about BAHHSCQ?

>>57803 >Reincarnation Coliseum Such a fun manga.

>>57802 Yey. >>57804 I really need to work on that. I was supposed to do it before I discovered this, so in theory it's next up but it's been next up for like three jumps in a row.

>>57786 Why did you determine that Paradox should be covered by Mary Sue?

Why did Madara immediately crash out just because he didn't get picked for Hokage?

>>57807 I because I don't particularly understand Mage, and what I do is Owod, not Nwod. My understanding of it is that Paradox is the universe is telling you that you did something wrong and will be punished for it. And sue never does things wrong. That said if I'm just blatantly wrong, by all means, say so.

>>57809 Not him, but >oWoD: Paradox is (basically) the collective disbelief of humanity (whose reality warping power is unconscious rather than conscious as with Mages) slapping back against reality warping that doesn't align with it. In some areas/cases, it can also be reality itself doing that if a Mage is doing dumb Mage shit somewhere metaphysically important. >nWoD/CofD: Paradox is (basically) Mages accidentally letting a little bit of the Abyss and its lies into reality when they try to overreach through their connection to the Supernal and its truth.

>>57803 >>57805 Does this have a jump?

This might be a dumbass question, but... How powerful is the Elden Beast lore-wise? It's hyped up like crazy in-setting but then in-game you beat it up with your bare hands or whatever. But then again you do that after engaging in fucking Wrestlemania with Hourah "Meteor Suplexes 100 ft. tall Fire Giants into Dragonlord Placudisax" Loux. So it's kind of hard to gauge how strong the Elden Beast actually is, how powerful the Tarnished is lore-wise by that point, and also what its abilities are since it alternates between casual reality-warping and torrential beam spam with no rhyme or reason.

>>57812 Personally I always chalked up the Tarnished beating it as a combination of the fact that it's wounded/incomplete (it's literally the Elden Ring, which you have several chunks of which it is thus missing), and the fact that in the cutscene after Maliketh, John Tarnished takes a very large bath in Destined Death juice.

>>57812 It's probably just the strongest thing in the setting except for the PC by the end, who beats it. The only reason people find this unbelievable is because the game is hard and we aren't 19 feet tall spamming lasers and having 37 health bars

I am going to make a custom Dojutsu in Naruto based on Dark Vision from Dishonored granting >night vision >the ability to see the chakra in living beings, even through walls >see the reach of their seenses like their line of sight, the range at which they hear things and even how far away they smell things. Also see their current destination/path. >see objects of interest to the user like hidden weapons or valuable items even through walls. Price wise do you think that would be closer to 100CP or 200CP? Like obviously its less useful than the Byakugan(at 200), but I am not sure if that much less useful to jutify a lower tier.

>>57815 imo I think the last 2 abilities bumps it up to 200.

One major consequence I had not considered of killing Orochimaru in part 1 - the Kabuto mental breakdown and attempted takeover of the world would happen a lot earlier. Though I think he would still be waiting to have enough strong guys to oppose the likes of the Akatsuki. If he says "fuck it" and unleashes Madara early then all that will really happen is Madara forcing Nagato to revive him and assuming the position of head of the Akatsuki, doing basically what Obito was doing but more overtly. I doubt he'd accelerate the plan at all because Obito didn't despite having means, motive and opportunity.

>>57817 This is kind of making me want to give Kabuto some better genetic materials post-Orochimaru death to see how batshit he becomes. Fuck, this is reminding me of how much I liked some of his scenes in Part 1. Kabuto was pretty cool.

>>57813 Yeah, that too. It's actually crazier if you complete Gurranq's quest since I believe this implies you've essentially gained all or at least most of the Rune of Destined Death from slaying Maliketh. So John Elden Ring is also wielding the Mystic Flames of Death Causation or whatever the fuck in addition to the lore power to dropkick a motherfucker through multiple buildings. >>57814 Honestly the difficulty of the game kind of belies the lore power levels of a lot of the characters. For example, it's heavily implied by lore that Godfrey is just flat-out stronger than Radahn. Like even Consort Radahn. If Hourah Loux showed up in there he would slap Radahn through a fucking wall and choke Miquella out with his other hand. And Maliketh just shits on everybody period with nobody anywhere even remotely being capable of doing anything except run the fuck away. But he's like the fourth to late boss fight.

>>57809 Kind of but not really. In MtAs, reality is constantly shaped by the beliefs of everyone (every human is essentially a latent reality warper). Paradox represents you violating consensus reality and it trying to reassert itself. In MtAw, corrupting essence flooded the channels between Mages and the metaphysical structures they call on to use magic. I thought the version you workshopped on 4chan was better because it implicitly applied to "character flaws" rather than "character" flaws. That is, you're free from anything (mundane or supernatural) that might impugn your moral character, rather than... just "inconvenient game mechanics" from the perspective of your character (which don't actually exist in-setting). The former would be both more balanced and more representative of the themes of the source material (both the advantage itself and CofD as a whole). Paradox is not a flaw in your ability, it's external factors reacting to you. It might be in-line for "normal" Mary Sues to have that, but it's perfectly in-line with the advantage here >>57792 to not intercede in such cases. For reference: Existing perk: >Secondly, you’re immune to bad shit. You don’t have a vice like greed or lust or anything like that, and you actively recover your willpower by being nice to people. Which is mostly just another excuse to show how cool you are, but whatever, let's not talk about that. More than that though, and let me say this again, you are immune to bad shit, which I am going to characterize as inconvenient game mechanics that run the risk of making your character seem less than perfect. Frenzy? Paradox? Wait, is Paradox still a thing in this version? I forget. Not important, because those are things that happen to other people. You might as well be playing a version of the game without those mechanics. You are still entirely as likely to be randomly killed by gang violence as anyone else, however. 4chan version: https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/95961092#p95962522 >More than that though, and let me say this again, you are immune to bad shit, which I am going to characterize as inconvenient game mechanics that run the risk of making your character seem less than perfect. How can people simp over how beautiful and kind you are if you randomly go into a bloodthirsty rage? Canon advantage: >Second, your character has no Vice. She (or he, don’t be fooled the gender-specific girl’s name) only has a Virtue. She can regain Willpower through Virtue the way one does normally through Vice— anytime she expresses her Virtue, she can regain one point of Willpower. If she expresses Virtue in a big way, sacrificing something to do so, she can regain all lost Willpower. >One downside to the Mary Sue phenomenon: at the beginning of every game session, the Storyteller gets to roll a single ten-sided die. If that die comes up a ‘1,’ then the Mary Sue character dies a horrible death at some point during that game session. We’re talking unmercifully grisly: a wood chipper, a syphilitic sewer monster, a 50 lb. breeding ball of tapeworms in the innards, something just downright awful. This is the universe counterbalancing the Mary Sue situation. Because the universe gets its due.

>>57815 I'd say 100 because it still doesn't have much combat utility whereas Byakugan helps with defense and lets you shut people's chakra network down

>>57808 Because he's a control freak at heart. Whereas Hashirama entrusted the village with his legacy (Which is funny because he didn't expect it to last as long as it did).

>>57815 Kinda seems more like a Sensor technique tbh.

Y'know, actual Madara being the leader of the Akatsuki would be a nice twist for my Jumper to deal with. I usually go with "Jumper doesn't have perfect meta-knowledge in jumps, just a vague hazy spattering of things from their past life, which itself they might not remember" as to how Jumpers know stuff and interact with the world, but he would still know for sure that absurdly OP Madara was not supposed to be the leader and shit his pants.

>>57822 His reaction of "Holy shit, we made it to a FOURTH Hokage???" was hilarious. Like bro genuinely didn't expect it to survive Tobirama.

>>57825 To be fair, it was basically an entirely unprecedented experiment and he and Madara thought it was a pipe dream until it actually happened.

Any perks that make your various connections unbreakable and permanent? For an AI chain.

>>57815 >>see the reach of their seenses like their line of sight, the range at which they hear things and even how far away they smell things. Also see their current destination/path. This part is cringe bordering on LitRPG trash.

>>57828 Don't go to Dishonoured then, lol.

>>57828 >>57829 Or Assassin's creed since eagle vision since that canonically pretty much does the same thing.

>>57816 I can see that, not even really sure how to justify the last one at least in setting. Best I had was it just letting see metalic objects, which seemed thematically clashing. >>57823 I mean, in a way, but its still all fully represented through the eyesight, and by the same metric the Byakugan would be a sensor technique. >>57828 I was thinking off justifying it by just having the eye essentially analyze a person and their behavior of their chakra and then just visually represent these things, kinda like how an advanced Sharingan can let you see the next actions someone makes in a fight.

>>57824 (me) Follow up to this: is there a character that can even possibly even TOUCH Madara Uchiha in this timeline? Because alive Madara with Hashirama cells and both Rinnegan should handily beat even Hashirama himself seeing as how he's not only got higher stats than when he fought Hashirama in the valley and way more moves, but he has 4 Limbo clones Hashirama has no way to see and therefore can't counter. He's probably even stronger than the alive Madara who had a Rinnegan and sage mode. Give this version of Madara sage mode somehow and there's unironically an argument to put him over Juubito.

>>57799 >Not Cosplay >and is always seen as being appropriate for whatever situations you find yourself in. Would the clothing from the Fetish Wardrobe have this property as well?

>>57833 Black Zetsu, the same way he did in canon. He gives zero shits about Madara's great plan, he wants to resurrect Kaguya.

>>57833 Is he young again? Because I can't see him doing much as a feeble man tied to the Hashirama cone flower thing keeping him alive aside from dishing out some long range Jutsu.

Do you guys have like a watch list of fics you keep up with and then whenever they update you read the latest chapter? Wondering if I'm weird for letting them build up a couple of new chapters at a time and then rereading it.

>>57832 >I mean, in a way, but its still all fully represented through the eyesight, and by the same metric the Byakugan would be a sensor technique. > I say it seems more apt for a sensor technique because Darkvision is pretty much worse at detecting stuff than the Sharingan and that is even worse than the Byakugan.

>>57836 Yeah, he had Zetsu force Nagato to resurrect him after Kabuto's stupid psycho ass tried to use Madara to take over the world. >>57835 Sure, potentially, but that's pretty irrelevant to Jumper since by the time we reach that point Madara will have wiped the map.

>>57837 I do. I keep a list of about thirty or so fics at any one time that I watch and check for updates every now and again. Sometimes a few more, sometimes less, but generally hover around that mark. Xianxia are nice because I can sink myself into them for a week or two and let a nice backlog of fanfic updates build up for me to enjoy.

>>57810 >>57820 I'll rephrase things to be clearer that it is mostly going to effect things you roll for - spend all of your blood won't result in you going into frenzy because you're basically bribing the dm, but paradox is automatic so it hits you anyways.

>>57841 NTA but similarly with vampire weaknesses I assume? So the gay perk isn't redundant?

>>57827 I think starcraft had one?

>>57842 As written, Sue does not effect the sunlight issue. An argument could be that you'd always take the minimal amount of damage from sunlight, but it won't save you from being weak to it.

>>57833 The thing you need to realize is that Hashirama is still way fucking stronger than Madara. Like during their lives they weren't equals in the same way that EoS Sasuke is sure as fuck not equal to Naruto. Hashirama was so much stronger than Madara it wasn't even funny. It's why Madara had to control full Kurama to fight against Hashirama alone and even then both of them got their asses absolutely beat. It wasn't a fight between equals, it was basically Madara pulling out every trick he could possibly think of and Hashirama basically grabbing it and shoving it back down his throat with brute force until he eventually got pissed off enough that he summoned a gargantuan Buddha like 10 times the size of full Kurama and 50 times the size of every other Tailed Beast to obliterate both him and Madara with a single attack that Madara only barely survived using his Perfect Susanoo as ablative armor. One of Hashirama's basic bitch wood giants was slugging it out on equal footing with Kurama and that thing was so small it was sitting on the head of the giant Buddha statue. It was so big it could literally stomp on Madara's Perfect Susanoo like a bug to crush it and him. That said, Edo Tensei Hashirama is vastly weaker than he was while alive. He even notes this fact. Even with his weakness Orochimaru says that from the moment he was summoned he could move and act on his own because he was simply too strong for Orochimaru to exert any kind of control over him even after absorbing Kabuto's improvements to the technique. And this Hashirama was able to fight on par with Edo Tensei Madara complete with his faux Rinnegan and Wood Release as well, Hashirama noting that Madara had picked up some new tricks. On the flip side, Hashirama observes that being an Edo Tensei zombie has actually made him weaker due to his abilities in life. For example, his regeneration as an Edo Tensei zombie is outright stated by him to be a lot slower and less effective than what he had while alive. He also has trouble channeling and maintaining Sage Mode properly due to the nature of an Edo Tensei zombie's chakra, which is technically infinite and prevents him from mixing it properly. His Wood Release is also fucked up and can't be deployed nearly as effectively as when he was alive which is why he doesn't bring out any of his signatures techniques like the ones he used against Madara. So realistically speaking, Hashirama is still a lot stronger or at least on par with Madara if he were to be fully resurrected back to his prime like Madara was. Even the final pre-Jinchuuriki form of war arc Madara would probably lose to a fully revived Hashirama, although it would actually be a close fight instead of the curb stomping it was back in the Valley of the End.

>>57845 > It wasn't a fight between equals, it was basically Madara pulling out every trick he could possibly think of and Hashirama basically grabbing it and shoving it back down his throat with brute force until he eventually got pissed off enough that he summoned a gargantuan Buddha like 10 times the size of full Kurama and 50 times the size of every other Tailed Beast to obliterate both him and Madara with a single attack that Madara only barely survived using his Perfect Susanoo as ablative armor. One of Hashirama's basic bitch wood giants was slugging it out on equal footing with Kurama and that thing was so small it was sitting on the head of the giant Buddha statue. It was so big it could literally stomp on Madara's Perfect Susanoo like a bug to crush it and him. The thing is, though, the fight still ended with them both beat up and exhausted and Hashirama only won via sneak attack. It was a lot closer than you're making it out to be and you're vastly underestimating how much stronger alive Madara with two Rinnegan and Hashirama cells is.

>>57846 That's true. But that's only because of Kurama, who did like 80% of the work against Hashirama with Madara basically playing support caster the entire fight. Hashirama had to beat his way through Yin-Yang Kurama who's stronger than ALL of the other Tailed Beasts combined while Madara basically sat on its back and hid behind it for most of the fight. If Hashirama had fought Madara alone, Madara would have got his ass absolutely beat. Even with Kurama that still happened, although Hashirama had taken a lot of hits and was heavily exhausted. And he didn't pull out the sneak attack because he didn't have anything else, he pulled it out because that was his entire plan from the start. He needed to get Madara to drop his Perfect Susanoo in order to hit him and the big attack was basically designed to do that by forcing him to sacrifice it to stop himself from being crushed, allowing Hashirama to distract him long enough to trick him with a Wood Clone and sneak up behind him before he could bring his Susanoo back up.

>>57845 >For example, his regeneration as an Edo Tensei zombie is outright stated by him to be a lot slower and less effective than what he had while alive. Bullshit, Edo Zombies can regen from complete physical annihilation.

>>57848 In life, Hashirama could regenerate so fast that Madara notes Tsunade's ultimate immortality regeneration technique is basically Hashirama's constant passive regeneration but with temporary and with a bunch of really shitty drawbacks like reducing her overall lifespan. In comparison, the Edo Tensei's regeneration can take several seconds to complete which allows the zombie to potentially be locked down with high enough DPS. Whereas Hashirama could just regenerate near-instantaneously from anything that didn't essentially annihilate his entire body in one go.

>>57817 Kabuto received Madara's corpse from black Zetsu, he won't give it until everything's ready for his plan.

>>57833 I think you're underselling Hashirama, Madara might win, but it won't be handily, Hashirama is a perfect sage, wich is stronger than the sage mode, wich was enough for Naruto to bridge an advantage of 8 tailed beasts in his final fight with Sasuke, and he canonically defeated Madara who was using Kurama.

>>57786 [Dudes of Legend] Drawbacks: Chronicles of MY DICK, How To Be Fucking Awesome: Exalted vs World of Darkness, Jumper Sue Must Die (1300) Angel Bare Thy Chest To Conquer All (Free) Bullets Aint Got Nothing On You (Free) Fearful Priapism (1200) We’re Gonna Mary Sue This Motherfucker (900) Glitter Is For Vampires And Strippers (800) Cock Acolytes (Or Cock-olytes) (Free) Anything Up To Size 10: Particularly fat alligator (Free) Murder Systems (Free) Your Face Will Be Dripping With Awesome (0) Homies (Free) -Lilith: Fuck Falling (Free), You Might As Well Jump (Free), Beast (Incarnation), Sacred Vagina (400), Sacred Vagina * (200), Strippers Make The Bestest Characters Ever, (0), Cock-Acolytes (Or Cock-olytes) (Free), Double Dildo As A Weapon (Free) Bitches (Free) "SOLARS could be here", I thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be SOLARS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE SOLARS" I thought. Sweet Dreams are Made of These reverberated my entire Whorephanage, making it pulsate even as the $9 wine circulated through my powerful thick veins and washed away my (merited) fear of demigods after dark. "With enough glitter, you can go anywhere you want" I said to myself, out loud. … “Daddy, I appear to have been forced into a schoolgirl outfit” said Naamah as it slowly donned on me that all of us were suddenly 80% more radical. Isidoros had somehow grown a second pompadour on his pompadour. Y- had gotten a pair of sunglasses from somewhere that, due to a cultural misunderstanding, she was wearing backwards. Makoto had gotten into a hissing contest with 5 cats, all of whom were inexplicably wearing biker leathers and carrying knives. “I…I think a foreign reality is overlapping with ours, dear” I said carefully. “Nothing a simple Shaping defence shouldn’t take care of-“ “Hey, I’m not complaining” she interrupted, cutting slits into her already short skirt. I turned to Lilith instead, who was taking and giving out detailed notes from her even-more magical vagina. “Do you think we should be worried about…any of this?” I asked as a light rain of strippers started to crawl on me in the hope of money and powers. “Why?” she said with a shrug. “Free hoes” “But this is an intrusion of a foreign reality with unknown consequences-“ “We know the consequences” she interrupted, playfully smacking her own stripper collection. “Free. Hoes. Do you sense any malignity here? I don’t” “I…suppose not” “Want to make our strippers, who are also ninjas and schoolgirls due to the complex but somehow coincidentally age segregated career opportunities afforded by our s, fight for the glory of who gets to be tonight’s bottom bitch?” asked Lilith. “I really feel like we should investigate this further, but I’ve got no leads on why this happen so why not, they could use the exercise” I said thoughtfully, now that both of us were fully covered in bitches. And we spent the rest of the day watching stripper-schoolgirl-ninjas reenacting the Chunin exams but with random nWoD, Exalted and oWoD powers we bestowed on top performers. >>57833 >is there a character that can even possibly even TOUCH Madara Uchiha in this timeline? Every Otsutsuki would trivialise him.

>>57847 >ALL of the other Tailed Beasts combined while Madara basically sat on its back and hid behind it for most of the fight. Hashirama beat Kurama in the first like 10 minutes of the fight and then Madara managed to leave many serious wounds on Hashirama in melee combat. They're meant to be close, Hashirama is just strong enough that Madara can never win. There's legitimately no way for Hashirama to counter Madara's Limbo clones.

>>57852 >Every Otsutsuki would trivialise him. Where are they, bro? Not available, that's for sure.

>>57852 >Every Otsutsuki would trivialise him. Not Kinshiki. >>57854 Theoretically if he wanted to cause even more trouble he might search for Jigen.

>>57852 So first off, would you mind checking your math again? Because you have a 600 cp perk labeled as free, and while that's technically an option, it's incompatible with discounts. Or having cp in the first place. Other than that, Your Face is only supposed to be a bastion of strippers, schoolgirls, or Ninjas, not strippers, schoolgirls, AND Ninjas. Additionally, fair warning, I am in the process of nerfing Sue.

>>57854 The question wasn’t whether or not they are available tho. And discounting the ones in space or on the moon (and technically disqualified from pure Otsutsuki blood, not that the original Naruto jump cares), Isshiki is patiently rebuilding his strength with his little cult somewhere in the world, eventually with the help of Dr. Amado. And Kaguya is literally waiting to have Black Zetsu instantly murk him whenever she’s good and ready to use him as a light snack. There is literally nothing mentioned there that prevents Black Zetsu from doing exactly what he did in canon. >>57855 >can absorb ninjutsu and turn it into glowy weapons >can teleport in the anime >has the Byakugan >can fly interstellar distances under his own power >can cut down a God Tree while on the verge of death Nah, he’d win. >>57856 Ah my bad, it’s been a long flight out of China into Other Part of China and I’m tired. >Your Face I was thinking about forming some sort of interconnected gestalt institution between all my homies’ Your Face purchases, like the NATO of hot girl conglomerates but less skittish, but I suppose I could’ve been clearer if I wasn’t in bad need of a nap right now. [Dudes of Legend redux] Drawbacks: Chronicles of MY DICK, How To Be Fucking Awesome: Exalted vs World of Darkness, Jumper Sue Must Die (1300) Angel Bare Thy Chest To Conquer All (Free) Bullets Aint Got Nothing On You (Free) Fearful Priapism (1200) We’re Gonna Mary Sue This Motherfucker (900) Glitter Is For Vampires And Strippers (800) Cock Acolytes (Or Cock-olytes) (Free) Anything Up To Size 10: Particularly fat alligator (Free) Murder Systems (200) Your Face Will Be Dripping With Awesome (0) Homies (Free) -Lilith: Fuck Falling (Free), You Might As Well Jump (Free), Beast (Incarnation), Sacred Vagina (400), Sacred Vagina * (200), Strippers Make The Bestest Characters Ever, (0), Cock-Acolytes (Or Cock-olytes) (Free), Double Dildo As A Weapon (Free) Bitches (Free)

>>57857 You only get one set of item discounts. So either drop Acolytes or the alligator, or pick up another 100 cp. Other than that, yay build.

>>57858 Ah, my mistake. See you later, alligator.

>>57859 Congrats, I lol'd.

>>57857 >There is literally nothing mentioned there that prevents Black Zetsu from doing exactly what he did in canon. Did you forget that he needs to be used to resurrect her by recreating the ten tails and taking it into his body? She's basically split into 10 pieces right now

>>57861 …no? I’m just saying, there’s no reason why that wouldn’t still happen because taking Hashirama’s genetic backshots doesn’t bring Madara any closer to his actual desired goal-which inevitably sets him up as Kaguya chow.

>>57786 Does murder systems work when you kill animals and monsters?

>>57862 >muh backshots

>>57863 If it has a morality/humanity score, yes. If it's actually just straight up a random animal, probably not.

>>57856 >Your Face is only supposed to be a bastion of strippers, schoolgirls, or Ninjas, not strippers, schoolgirls, AND Ninjas. Cringe I want ninja stripper schoolgirls.

>>57864 It is a deserved term for how much Madara cares about Hashirama.

>>57865 Ok thanks, now I will wait to see how sue is nerfed.

>>57866 Buy the item three times. Only a full 1000 cp! >>57868 Jump is now in uploads with nerfed version of sue.

>>57869 >Secondly, you’re bribing the dm. If you do something that would normally have consequences and they can be fudged, they probably will. For vampires and werewolves this includes never going into a frenzy unless you want to, but isn’t limited to just that. A Promethean Sue would likely never lose themselves to Torment, for example, unless it somehow benefitted them. A Changeling? Do note this only affects things you get to roll for - a Mage getting slapped by Paradox is an automatic process. Then again, why is someone ‘perfect’ casting so poorly in the first place? Next up, you don’t have to indulge in vices in order to reaffirm your place in the world or your faith in yourself - mostly because system-wise, you don’t have one. You use your Virtues for that instead, which means that you can potentially gain willpower by giving money to a homeless guy. NTA, but I appreciate it.

>>57870 >Random mentions of changeling that I forgot to get rid of fug

Do people in Star Wars have a "soul" before they become a Force ghost?

>>57872 It depends on what you believe a soul is, but they can already astral project.

>>57872 They have enough of one that Sideous can apparently yank out someone’s lifeforce to sustain someone else, also astral projection via Sith alchemy is a thing

>>57871 The two gun mojo works only with guns or other kind of weapons too?

>>57786 >this >the DC Collab Lobo perk Any others McGuy Dude Bro Man chain?

>>57876 Cho Aniki.

>>57876 80s action movie

There really is basically no way to be relevant against Kaguya without alien powers, huh? Even DMS Kakashi was massively amped by Obito's residual ten tails jinchuriki chakra.

>>57792 >Chuck Wendig HOLY FUCKING CRINGE.

>>57879 Sakura was relevant, you can be relevant against Kaguya without alien powers but if you want to defeat her it's improbable, especially as long as she has black zetsu.

>>57881 >it's improbable I don't even know what you would do. The only thing that could maybe allow it is custom bloodline shenanigans + Double EMS Kamui amped by Hashirama cells into 8th gate, which should theoretically make you maybe kinda probably not as strong as DMS Kakashi who was clowning on Kaguya, though he still couldn't kill her and she had to be sealed to be beaten.

>>57882 Seduce her.

>>57672 >Skin Amazon Chocolate >Hair Black >Eye Color Green

>>57882 add sage mode to all this

>>57885 Is it really viable to maintain that while your body's tearing itself apart via 8th gate?

>>57879 There is no way to be relevant for more than a few seconds, no. You cultivate or inherit an alien cultivator’s bloodline, or you accept that you are and always will be trash. >>57881 Sakura was relevant in the sense that the Sexy No Jutsu was relevant. What she did amounted to a fleeting distraction.

>>57882 The only think I can think could kill you is her own all killing bones wich is why I said black zetsu is a problem, with him around it's even more impossible to use them against her.

>>57887 Sakura didn't do sexy Jutsu, Naruto did.

>>57889 Please reread what I wrote. I said they were roughly as relevant to defeating Kaguya, as in they were both fleeting distractions that contributed little towards actually overpowering her on a permanent basis. >>57888 And at that point you’re just using the cope version of actual Otsutsuki powers.

>>57889 >>57887 No wait, I get what you mean now. That distraction did cause her to be sealed though. Also Sakura provided the chakra for Obito to keep going, otherwise he just kinda runs out of steam and everyone dies

>>57886 have your twin or an animal fuse to you to control the natural energy, use dna to obtain sage trasformation and ignore the fact you are going berserk because anyway you are using mostly sheer power. I would add mu's duplication to let your clone suicide with the eight gate

>>57891 Fine, I am willing to concede she was about as useful as 3 Sexy Jutsus, and therefore significantly less relevant than Sasuke let alone Naruto, as in Sakura would have zero chance dealing with Kaguya if her only meaningful backup was 2 other Sakuras. Happy, O last and truest of all remaining Sakurafags?

Night pals.

>>57894 Good night.

>>57894 Night, WoL.

>>57894 Good night, WoL

>>57894 Sleep well.

Good night, Naruto general.

Good morning, Naruto general.

At some point Im going to realize a thread hit 2000 before trying to post

>>57701 >pics What is this?

>>57805 Bro really went wild with the boobah game. The heroine is boring though.

>>57735 Hope your dog will be alright. And you injury too. Having a pet being sick or worse... it ain't a good feeling.

>>57904 Yeah, gonna keep watching him and getting him dog aspirin since that's the best I can do for him. Fingers crossed; this little bastard gets sick and injured as often as I do but he keeps rebounding somehow.

>>57905 He got that dog in him

Morning thread got a question for you What do I need to make and spread hyperspace lanes across the galaxy?

>>57894 Sleep well WoL.

>>57907 a Craving to spread Hyperspace Lanes

>>57909 Well I got that

I'm trying to find 6 exalted specialties fitting for a hero to put as impositions of laws (things in wich I autowin unless I'm contrasting someone stunting or using magic) in my heroic tale embodiment. For now I got Presence (inspiring), Riding (horseback), martial arts (armorless), Integrity (against pain). Does someone have better ideas?

>>57907 Get Star Road tech from Halo. They're basically the same thing.

>>57912 Oh? I dont recall seeing that in any jumps but easily could have missed it.

>>57913 Ah its in forerunners. I see. Huh I dont really want to have my hyperspace lane be a physical mass of tendrils, I was expecting them to be in an upper dimension or something.

Which, non qq, Cyberpunk jump do you think would be the most "comfy" to live in for a decade? I say non qq because I think that'd just make Neon Dreams of Organic Toys the automatic winner if you went in there as a human.

>Wow talk last thread >Get curious to see what blizz has been doing recently >Khadgar survived >And he's on a wheelchair >A magical flying wheelchair Absolutely fucking KEKY. You can't make this shit up

>>57915 I'd put my vote for Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex.

>>57672 Evening Alvan with red eyes

>>57916 Why do settings feel the need to insert wheelchairs into settings that obviously wouldn't have wheelchairs?

>>57916 >actual fucking dragonoid on a wheelchair evolved into actual fucking khadgar on a wheelchair

>>57915 Cyberpunk, with minimum amounts of drawbacks. Also, VA-11 Hall-A.

Where's a good place to make a living doll companion?

>>57915 Honeatly as long as you have money any cyberpunk settings probably pretty sweet.

>>57922 Overlord

>>57916 Why does it need wheels if it can fly

>>57786 C'mon, don't fucking add divergent payment rules. We just had a guy trying to use Warframe to justify a higher starting budget last thread. >How To Be Fucking Awesome Please explain how this works. ...Unless this is meant for the Joke Jumps folder, in which case never mind, but probably add something to the title to let DriveAnon know.

>>57922 Bloodborne.

>>57927 I wasn't even aware the jump let you be anything except human.

What happens if I drop Darkseid, or a jumper that's basically just him into Lovecraft?

>>57929 He'll start making out with the elder gods.

>>57928 It's specifically a companion option.

What are our most light and good and hopepilled saviourmaxxing powers around I need to prevent despair crash outs and heal witches in PMMM, and save the court of tears in Princess The Hopeful.

>>57930 That makes sense for a Jumper, but does Darkseid really have that kind of game?

>>57932 From Child of Light >Light Up Their Hearts (-200): Times have been hard ever since Umbra’s shadow enveloped Lemuria. Vicious monsters roam everywhere, making it difficult to even survive, let alone gather food, and if anyone is unlucky enough to cross paths with the Queen of Night, they might find their life overturned in the blink of an eye. Yet in this everlasting night, you’re a brightly shining light. When they see you, people can’t help but look up from the cold, hard ground and gaze towards better times. Just your presence can kick someone into motion, when they might’ve otherwise remained griefing in darkness for the rest of their lives. With your guidance, you can help others overcome depression, cowardice - and even lacking knowledge of four-line stanza rhymes. But not only can their pain be soothed and their flaws smoothed, you can lead them towards greater goals. Take a child whose entire village had been eaten by an ogre, and who has just been told that her parents died as well. Her sorrow could be cast away and transformed into righteous anger and determination to defeat the evil that was the source of the tragedy. Curiously, this is much more effective with music - a single song enough to wash away all the tears in the hearts of those who hear it, even your own.

>>57932 The greatest is probably To be continued from generic DC, buffed with just a shadow of my true glory.

>>57932 Try being a Solar. Alternatively, try stacking power levels until something breaks. This doesn't come with inherent hope effects and can't fix everything, but knowing that there's someone on your side who's going around punching out all the horrors that were previously thought invincible is a major morale boost.

>>57933 He's got a bunch of kids but i'd imagine "game" would be irrelevant for him you feel me? He doesn't seem the type to pitch woo, just a rapist of some description.

>>57922 Fate/Nippon

I'm not sure if anyone else knows this, but the Itachi Shinden update that Psycho removed is now back in the uploads folder.

>>57932 >Neverending story Child-like saviour (600): All of Fantasia can be saved by a single human child. You too can now stave off the death of fantasy, of emotionlessness and of cold pragmatism. You are a beacon of light, hope, imagination and creativity in a world that lacks it and desperately needs it. Your fantasy and creativity alone is sufficient to hold all of Fantasia, thus all of human fantasy and protect it from the Nothing. You hold the power to usher in a new age of childlike wonder, creative spirit and hopeful dreams both for Fantasia and the human world. Whatever settings you visit will always become lighter, more hopeful, more creative, adventurous and fun just by you being there and bringing your light.

>>57916 Now we just need Kotal Kahn in a wheelchair over on Mortal Kombat, and the prophecy will at last be fulfilled.

>>57942 >Kotal Kahn in a wheelchair beats the shit out of everyone >As soon as he gets up once all the battling is done he immediately explodes

>>57940 You made me look, you made me stare, guess now I have to take off my underwear.

>>57944 ?

Which Fate Legends jump is the one that gives you Paracelsus's skill in Magecraft?

>>57945 It ain't there.

>>57947 It was when I posted it, someone must have removed it before you saw. Thanks to whoever did that btw.

>>57946 Him specifically rather than just someone better or similar? None, Val never got around to doing Fate/Europe.

>>57948 What was even different in that update?

>>57919 Politics

>>57950 Eternal mangekyo and rinnegan.

I was gonna take the perk from Gungrave that lets me enter jumps as a clone of someone, the perk from Ninja Gaiden that lets me start as a child, and the spaceship item from DearS that lets me enter settings in a crashing spaceship, to show up to a comic book setting as an alien-made clone of a superhero Who should I be a clone of? I figure Spiderman would be a bad idea because of the whole clone saga, but being a clone of Ironman or Batman might lead to a comfortable life

>>57919 The men who grew up in the 80s and 90s, who are now being asked to try to appeal to teenagers who care about social justice, remember the afterschool specials about blacks and girls and kids in wheelchairs from their youths and try to copy those. They fail to understand that wheelchairs are a far less attractive to that crowd, because unlike being mentally ill or gay or transexual, you cannot pretend to be stuck in a wheelchair.

>>57879 nah, you can fight her through pure stats. High level Taijutsu like Gai's eight Gates or Sakura's punches remain relevant until the end.

Is Kirby Part 1 too much of a cp vampire? Most builds I've seen for it are pretty sparse and even I struggled to get a satisfying build when I used it myself. I don't feel like this is a problem I usually have with my Jumps, so I'm not sure what's so different here.

>>57956 Seems fine to me?

>>57951 Right but like, couldn't they just use a wheeled platform or something? >>57954 That is a hell I wouldn't wish on anybody.

>>57955 Nta but unless you have space time ninjutsu she can simply drop you into one of her dimensions and let you die like that.

>>57932 Captain SNES >Beyond Despair(600, Old Pro) - Alpha Energy. It’s something that’s only been seen a few times, and is most associated with a fellow Pro, Megaman. It’s the only force seen to counteract the Touch of Sorrow, or the Sovereign’s might in general. Simply put...It’s Hope. The power of heroism and idealism, the power of refuting cruel reality and making that dream real. This power can amp up your strength by several magnitudes and turn what otherwise would have been an impossible fight into an even match...as well as bolstering the minds and hearts of yourself and those around you. The awakening of Alpha Energy within you can even spread out as a wave of hope, bringing light to people for miles..but such strength is not freely accessed. Alpha Energy can only rise to its potential in the face of despair, in the face of a dark and desperate time. As such, this power only becomes apparent when it seems all is lost. It is only in the darkness that the light shines brightest.

>>57957 Maybe it's just in my head then.

>>57937 Solars are not hopecore.

>>57955 Yeah, but your base is gonna have to be WAY higher than Guy because she would literally speed blitz and beat the shit out of him easily. He was fighting a far from full power Juubidara that she shits on in every way imaginable.

>>57959 theoretically yes, practically she has little experience using her powers offensively and no fighting instincts worth speaking off, so if you combine that with you being aware of her abilities you could likely avoid it and speedblitz her before she gets ideas like that. Like I geniuenly think all it takes to defeat Kaguya is a solid hit to the face that splatters her brain, if Sakura can land a hit that breaks her horn, I cant see this being too impossible.

>>57953 <I figure Spiderman would be a bad idea because of the whole clone saga >not confusing the locals who thought all those clones were made by someone on earth >not having Earth's heroes paranoid there will be another alien invasion >not having space heroes paranoid there's someone else dropping clones on random worlds You could just make it worse...

>>57956 CP Vampires are not an objective term. One person's CP Vampire won't be that for another person. Some people just want to stuff everything from the document into the build. Others will look at the same document and feel like nothing is worth getting. As for that jump specifically, I didn't find it necessary to go past the initial CP allotment. There are so many Kirby jumps that everything can be obtained somewhere else, so I don't feel any sense of "FOMO" as it were.

>>57907 Lots of unmaned droid ships sent off to explore. Or just follow the space whales that use hyperspace naturally.

>>57956 I had no issues with my build for it. It offers incredible power and has numerous drawbacks that are relatively low penalty (especially if taken early in Chain like as a second Jump and taking the +400 Dedede scattering past perks as shards option). It even offers +200 CP if you go without a copy ability. You just have to accept that you won't get a majority of stuff there and acquiring celestial level power in one of numerous ways is likely to lead to a huge CP sink. My build here: https://pastebin.com/BMrG0J7s

>>57916 WoW also has auto play now, so you can walk away and your character just attacks and loots on his own. Why even play anymore? I saw an interview they were making it so people could auto run raids.

>>57943 And thus, the natural order is restored: With Sindel being the strongest pure melee kombatant, even while not being empowered by a bunch of souls and enough to rival actual Elder Gods with but a little help from Nightwolf and the Great Spirit, for no particular reason.

>>57958 >Right but like, couldn't they just use a wheeled platform or something? It's not about logic or what is appropriate, their political views believe such things to be conditional and subjective. It's about displays of obeisance to prove that you're "the right/correct kind of people". Because that's all they want, obedience and zero questioning.

Is there anything in particular you guys would want in a Deltarune jump?

>>57972 Fluffy goatboi to act as our host body, instead of Kris

>>57972 It's a bit early for that, isn't it? Roaring Knight perk Create Dark Fountains perk Magic If Susie is half-human, maybe a half-human monster race The ability to take control of others through symbiosis? Prophecy item

>>57972 A harem of Ralsei goat/bunnybois.

>>57972 Kris, Ralsei, and Susie as a group companion for 300 CP. Sure, have them cost 100 CP individually, I don't care, but a group companion slot for the three would be amazing. SOUL Origin that lets Jumper possess a resident of Hometown, effectively 'dropping into' their life. Detailed magic perks and/or potentially a magic centric section. The ability to create dark worlds and acquire the Knight's power. Lightner, darkner, and Eldritch abomination species options.

>>57972 Wouldn't it be better to wait until every part is out? According to Google only 4 out of 7 chapters have been released.

>>57972 Option to be an outside observer and source of endless DETERMINATION, since that's the player's whole schtick in Undertale and Deltarune

>>57972 >Gerson I'M OLD perk >The Original____Starwalker >Weirdly prophetic videogame >Thorn Ring >Dess companion to confuse the shit out of everyone >SOUL companion that is cracked at fighting

>>57977 Look, man, that's gonna take forever even if Toby did hard confirm a 2026 release for chapter 5. I can just update it as it goes along.

>>57979 >cracked at fighting Don't forget cracked at guitar playing too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAfzl6ApUwk

>>57972 I would like a Dark World of our own design item.

>>57980 >I can just update it as it goes along You're gonna regret those words

>>57983 At least we would HAVE a jump for it.

>>57980 I'm not saying it can't be done. Just seems like an unnecessary gamble. There's no way to know what will be revealed in the following chapters, or how things in past chapters might be re-contextualized. For all anyone knows by the time the 7th chapter is out the Jump will look so different from your consecutive updates that it might as well be a different Jump.

>>57980 >I can just update it as it goes along. That's hell (and/or The Shroud) you're walking into.

>>57985 I'd agree if it was still the dark times where there was a grand total of 2 chapters to work with, but we pretty much get it by now and a lot of stuff that could be big reveals (the Knight, Titans) has already been revealed.

>>57987 >It turns out the Roaring Knight was a fake

>>57972 some bonus if you also jumped undertale

>>57932 What options do we have to fix meguca/witches/the PMMM world that don't require you to have the raw power to bend the setting over backwards?

>>57990 All you need is a way to get rid of the Witches inside of soul gems. Purification magic should work?

>>57990 Manipulation and keikaku perks to find/engineer into existence more girls like Madoka and get them to make wishes.

>>57990 You could create authority in Campione that is based on blessing, purification and healing. Just collect all souls gems every day and recharge them or craft some bowls of purification that would recharge gems placed inside them automatically. You could make purification feeling better then sex to brainwash magical girls to want your touch.

>>57990 Technopathy. Just hack the Soul Gems so they don't do the things the Incubators want them to do in terms of accruing negative energy/spawning Witches and such. While the fallout from that might not be the best solution, it shouldn't be terribly difficult to turn off some stuff and disable/remove their admin privileges if you're just going by vibes instead of trying to decompile their entire OS.

>>57994 Nta, but the accumulation of negativity is the world's balance, it's not something specifically caused by the incubators AFAIK, so admin access or not it shouldn't be possible to stop it.

>>57972 Psycho, would the Joyboy perk help you free yourself from Imu's influence if you are a holy knight?

>>57954 This makes way too much fucking sense holy shit.

>>57996 Probably not. You'd need to sack your arm or some shit like Shanks did.

>>57980 Dude I'm having to redo entire perk lines from a single update to a small game that only added 3 new abilities per class. You're basically committing to potentially having to rewrite large portions of the jump every time a new chapter drops. I strongly advise you to reconsider and not go chasing after the flavor of the month.

>>57998 I still think it makes no sense if it is as easy as losing the arm, but ok.

>>57999 It's not flavor of the month to me. The game is something I enjoy and care about very much.

>>57956 The only thing that comes to mind, and I haven't read it in a while so I might be wrong, is that the powerlevel options come across as way stronger and more cost-effective than the other perks. I think the assumption was that the regular perks would scale with your powerlevel, but their description assumes you're at the lowest powerlevel.

>>57972 >pic I like this evolution of "where the fuck are we?!"

>>58000 Do not underestimate Lordof D. Coast.

>>58004 Lor D. of D. Coast.

You guys know of any way to turn a suit of power armor into a wireless node for a ship ai? I mean I want to be able to communicate at any range with my ship and want to rig in some setup to allow my ship ai to connect to local tech to help with hacking.

>>58006 Install comm gear on your suit. Iron Man could do it in a couple hours, or Steel in DC. The Culture and the Polity have the necessary technology too.

>>57672 Amber hair Silver eyes Tan skin

There were no complaints last thread so I'm calling Captain Commando done. Can someone upload it to the drive, please?

>>58006 Just make sure your power armor can move without a pilot and have a decent comm system at both ends. Honestly feels like basic robotics when compared to the fact you have a ship with an integrated AI and a power armor you're trying to use as a remote drone. Like, it's practically a standard feature on most StarkTech suits to the point that it caused a whole mini-plot to happen because Ultron decided to take the whole armory out for a joyride.

>>57956 >>57956 Looks mostly fine as a whole to me. The Dream perks are the only really vampire part about it. They're neat, and I really want to purchase them, but I like my Meta Knight build too much to let go of it for Kirby logic perks. I guess it'll be nice if they were a bit cheaper? The upgraded Dream World costing 600 cp is painful.

>>58008 >>58011 Im not really trying to puppet my armor, the thing Im looming to do is have a link so the ai can use its full capabilities and track me no matter the range or amount of stuff in between us. Since getting caught underground or ending up in space are both possibilities. So yeah getting basic comms setup is doable making it fullproof is much harder.

>>57972 So you know the ThornRing and Weird route?

>>57972 An option to replace Kris, for reasons ranging from it being neat to avoiding the critical fumble with the doe childhood friend.

>>58015 You aren't playing as Kris, you are playing as The SOUL. Kris is his own character.

>>58013 Weirdly, you might want to look into whatever tech goes into Pokemon's communications network. Even back in Gold/Silver, you can reliably get phone calls in what may as well be the middle of nowhere since you're entirely too deep in a mountain with a strong magnetic field and/or in another region from the one making the call. And it only gets zanier from there when you squint at the data transfer systems for trading pokemon.

Haven't been able to work on chain very much, but a thought occurred to me. >I'm going home. >I want to make my own guild because I was only able to challenge and overcome dungeons- and reap rewards - because of how much back up I had. >Got new Skills to make artificial life. >Don’t think much of them at first. >Decide I want to make my own Guild. >Nobody just joins a new Guild started by a random stranger without great financial backing. >Decide I'll just make my own Guild members. >Realize I don't really know how to organize a Guild. >Speak to Gwyndolin who I've eventually become somewhat cordial with. >He has extensive experience leading a covenant and goes about writing guidelines and bylaws for me. >Some old friends come by to visit. >Medusa and her son(?) swing by first, he seems thoroughly freaked out to see Saint Priscilla though. >My buddy Wesker from the Research Commission also swings by, I introduce the two. >They both say they can't fight, but they would appreciate a room while they're staying in this world and I have no reason to deny them. >I'm making friends and moving up in the world. Life is really changing for the better! >After a few successful dungeon raids in lower Grade dungeons, I advertise again. >No one wants to sign up still though. >Could it be the large, abyssal humanoids I call Guild Members? >Could it be my skeletal armor I wore for pictures to look strong and presentable? >No, it must be the lack of noteworthy Awakened and guild funds. >This attractive woman named Juri from that new Fight World that opened up while I was away shows up with interest, that's really cool. >While contemplating what to do with my new Guild, I question some of the new members and friends of mine that I've made for their input. >Gwyndolin, Medusa, Wesker, and Juri all appear to have some light suggestions, if I'm interested, since I asked and all. Joon-Woo wasn't stupid, I was. I am absolute manipulator bait. The next apocalypse is going to be cooking in my garage.

>>58016 Hence why I'm asking for an option to replace Kris. As in Kris the character. To avoid fumbling with Noelle like how Kris just left her after whatever happened to Dess, leaving her lost and confused and wondering if her and Kris were even friends despite all the memories they shared, how she named after her cactus after him, and how she has a blurred picture of him as one of her screensavers. That's why I am, specifically, asking for an option to replace Kris for a jump.

>>58017 Thats not a bad idea really. Not even talking about their weird dimensional tech.

>>57949 >Val never got around to doing Fate/Europe. FUCK

>>58021 Maybe Gene can be convinced to do Fate jumps. Him and WoL are the two most active jumpmakers now.

>>58022 No.

>>58022 We don't need more garbage jumps that take a random assortment of FGO characters to make perks around. You will make choices in this choose your own adventure game, and you will not get everything you wanted, and you will be happy with it.

>>58021 I it can help FancyFireDrake made a Fate Legend Voyage to Valhalla jump where you can buy the sword of Paracelsus and a philosopher stone.

>>58025 But that's not a /tg/ jump so it's not worth mentioning.

>>58021 Neither Fate China or Fate Norse or Russia. >>58022 Let's harass him. >>58023 Let's harass you! jk jk jk.

>>58026 Eh, beggars can't be choosers, and Fancy is good, in doubt I suggest.

>>58028 And we are very beggars.

>>58023 Hey quick question about your Bayformers jump. The Railgun item says its mounted on a carrier, but in the movies its mounted on a destroyer. What should I go with? Also, assuming I buy it by itself (that is, not imported onto another vehicle) does the ship have anything else for its role? Would the destroyer be loaded with missiles, or the carrier with jets? Do they have a crew or do I have to start hiring?

>>58028 /tg/ proves that beggars can be choosers and it doesn't matter who the name is, as long as they aren't in the community, the jumps won't be considered.

>>58018 I was enjoying the idea of Juri joining just to have somewhere to operate out of while she was scoping out this world, since my Guild looked like an obvious villain front. Not sure what she'd do upon finding out I'm just stupid and surrounded by villains rather than being evil myself. I think Gwyndolin and Medusa are petitioning me to go back to Soul Eater for different reasons, trying to "reclaim the work I put so much time and effort into, that I was most responsible for making in the first place" because Gwyndolin wants Seath's old piece of Lord Spul recovered so the flame can be linked as originally planned. Medusa just wants the progress towards "curing" the Undead Curse to be ruined since she's a hateful asshole. Wesker meanwhile suggests using his connections to establish a strong presence in the Medical World, which is still hot and valuable among Awakened. In reality he wants a new front operation as he develops "t-Peluda" and plots his conquest of Monster Hunter. Juri is mostly trying to get my bank book and pull the rug out from beneath the guild. She'll likely just pretend to be an enforcer that's down for whatever while pushing for escalation though.

Which jump would you would be best to get a huge tiddy Hachishakusama as a companion? Came across picrel vidrel? and it's flipped a switch in my brain to big tiddy good caveman mode and I know I won't be able to continue on my chain until I get it out of my system.

>>58021 >>57946 You could come reasonably close to his abilities in Kara No Kyoukai through some of the Magus perks, like >Familiar Master >First Rate (Jewel Magecraft, and Average one) >Risen Legends(Alchemy) You should be able to mimic most of his feats that way, though philosopher's stones you make likely wouldn't be nearly as potent as his sword. Alternatively you could go with the Faded Scholar perk in Fate Legends France for either alchemy or jewel magecraft) and you could get his sword through the 300CP tier of the custom Magic Weapon option.

>>58027 >Fate Norse or Russia nta, but those were supposed to be included in Fate Europe. Val really only had Europe and China left(the last one she claimed to have done 95% of but never could be bothered finishing it)

>>58031 Harsh, but it's starting to become true.

>>58021 >>58027 Val wasn't gonna do a Norse or Russia Legends. She was going to do China, a big Camelot & GrecoRome overhaul, and Europe (Russia, Norse, misc Europe not covered by other jumps, and Altera), and then just updates here and there for them as new shit came out. Here's the last China wip she posted.

>>58033 GEH probably.

>>58035 Oof, really? Sad. Russia is Europe? Whaaaa? Still miss her. >>58037 Big up bro

>>58036 Are you new? This has always been the case here.

>>58040 Always? Now you are pushing it.

>>58021 >pic Why do anime girls have such a hard time buying clothes that fit properly?

>>58030 >Hey quick question about your Bayformers jump. The Railgun item says its mounted on a carrier, but in the movies its mounted on a destroyer. What should I go with? I don't know boats. I assumed carrier just meant "really big ship". Just pretend I said destroyer if that's what it was in the movie. >does the ship have anything else for its role? Would the destroyer be loaded with missiles, or the carrier with jets? Do they have a crew or do I have to start hiring? Missiles sounds reasonable, but not jets and crew.

>>58042 That's a man normally, so I assume this is spontaneous gender bending.

>>58014 Yeah. >>58015 It'll probably be a Drawback given Kris's unfortunate circumstances

>>58010 thanks for the jump bookman!

>>58041 nta but what I think he means is that the element of drive puritanism has always existed. Ever since the SB community started making jumps that element has existed. It wasn't as prevalent because back then they didn't have that many jumpmakers, but nowadays both SB and reddit have active jumpmakers on par with the active jumpmakers here (in terms of volume). SJ-Chan was probably the first to catch a lot of flak especially when SB didn't have their own drive.

>>58048 In term of volume, yeah, in term of quality? Nay.

>>58006 The Halo UNSC jump's armor customization table has stuff for that.

>>57936 Asriel in Dreamland sounds like it could end up basically being the therapy session that boy needs.

>>58018 >Medusa >Wesker >Gwyndolin You have the worst friends ever

>>57972 Not making it so early.

>>58052 Oh, yeah, atrocious.

>>58043 Ah alright. A modern carrier, especially a nuclear powered one, is basically a mobile military city. A Nimitz-class easily has a crew of 5,000 aboard and weighs in at over 106,000 tons at full load. Compare to an Arleigh Burke class destroyer, with a crew of less than 400 and displacement of less than 10,000 tons at full load.

Unless I'm getting something wrong a Timberwolf in the Battletech jump costs 500, 100 Clan Tech + 200 Omni-Mech + 200 Heavy Mech. Is that worth it over just getting a nice Assault Mech for 300 or an 'upgraded' one for 400?

>>58049 Quality is subjective and frankly doesn't matter, because the arguments involving it devolve into pointless personal attacks. Nothing productive comes out of it.

>>58057 I want to agree with you, but reddit jumps are rarely good in the first place. Sure there are a few good ones, but they are the exceptions.

>>57980 Psycho, take it from a man who has done this exact thing for ongoing properties and /will/ have to do it again (Enigma of Fear is getting multiple full-fledged DLC, I am STILL working on the Pristine Cut update and Terra Hypnagogica has adapted to a model of dropping whole ass PDFs for the new chapters in the future, just as two examples) - you do not want to do this. Especially for something like Deltarune where a single Chapter can completely upend the entire jump with new revelations.

>>58058 It does not matter. Whether a jump is good or bad is left to the individual user to decide. The problem isn't even when people push the narrative of "outside community is bad" as the objective truth, because that's just 4chan culture. It's when they get angry about people disagreeing with them and fail to recognize the hypocrisy that they are engaging in the same circlejerk behavior they condemn.

If I exterminated every single Hutt in Star Wars, would anything of value be lost?

>>58060 We don't hate other communities because we're a circlejerk. We're a circlejerk because we recognize that all the other communities that actually exist are happy to lap up low quality shit that they pump out regularly. The fact that you're in the corner whining about how there's no such thing a real quality and that you can't objectively say a three page jump where everything is one sentence long but makes you a million time stronger than the protagonist just proves you don't belong here either.

>>58061 Things get much better in the long term but much worse in the short term as all the assholes working for them fight over the power vacuum.

>>58042 >>58044 Everybody knows that guys turned into chicks get the best tits.

>>58030 >>58055 Now I feel compelled to get a battleship form in Bayformers so I can have the railgun as a mouth cannon.

>>58060 I agree it's not the best mindset, but it's actually an objective truth that Reddit jumps are not know for their quality.

Good news, I found a copy of Batman and Robin. Will start watching it after my Sunday chores and post the first WIP in the jump making thread tonight. So far I do have the hero and villain items all listed out. Still lacking perks and drawbacks

>>58064 Or else, they would be lame!

>>58056 Clan tech is miles better than inner sphere stuff. A clan heavy is, pound for pound, superior to an inner sphere assault mech. Better heat management and capacity, more *and* superior weaponry, better sensors, better engines, better electronics and all of it usually at half the weight of IS stuff. The only thing the IS has that is theoretically better than the Clans is stealth tech because the Clans consider that stuff dishonorable but even then stealth tech in the IS is limited almost exclusively to the phone company's hidden assets. If you're going to purchase a mech at all it is always worth it to purchase a clan mech over an IS one. Same with the dropship, if you're going to purchase one it's always better to pay the surcharge to have it come with clan tech than not.

>>58061 well there would be widespread anarchy over the hutt space with tons o gangs/group of pirates trying to claim a piece of the territory spanning hundreds of worlds for themselves. This is only workable if its part of a well organize reclaiming effort with the inhabitants of the worlds the hutts control, or I guess you could work with the republic to put the hutt space forcefully back under their authority but that is still gonna be devastating to the civillians on those planets.

>>58056 I don't think you need to pay for the Omni-tech option to get a timberwolf as I'm pretty sure that's already an omnimech to begin with. The omni-tech option seems to be about not only being an omni-mech but also coming with several full loadouts of different equipment already provided which normal purchases wouldn't have.

>>57875 Yes, but you only get the doves if you're using guns. >>57880 You speak as if I know who that is. >>57926 Fearful Priapism years to be free. You use it as a supplement. Make two builds at once. In whichever way you want, basically, you are your own dm. if something seems to good to be true, it might need a nerf.

I think I want Joon-Woo to accidentally butterfly the timeline, averting my villain path, without any intentions in doing so. This would relate to somehow dragging Medusa's attention long enough that a specific series of events occur. (Bad Timeline) >Saint Priscilla sees me raising Homunculi >Requests I try to create a new body for Crossbreed Priscilla, the other version of herself that we found murdered. >I do and it sorta works. >Crossbreed Priscilla remembers Crona and Medusa from her past life. >Medusa kills Crossbreed Priscilla again before she can warn me. >Frames the killing and soul theft on someone else. >Saint Priscilla becomes vindictive and helps drive me down a more violent path. (Good Timeline/New Timeline) >Medusa isn't at the base when Crossbreed Priscilla gets her memories of her past life, and is able to freely tell me that Medusa murdered her and what Crona has been through. >Saint Priscilla takes custody of both Crona and her reincarnated other self. >Medusa is driven off after returning and I contact Death City about her.

>>58067 Here's a drawback I thought up when I was considering making a jump for that series: >Worlds Worst Detective (+???)- Tim Burton dares to ask the real questions: What if instead of a suave playboy, Bruce Wayne was a creepy balding weirdo? What if instead of a genius detective, Batman stood around in shock through a gang fire fight, wondering to himself if that criminal who asks "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?" before shooting people might have any connection to the guy who asked his parents "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?" and then shot them? Now you are every bit the equal of Batman when it comes to social graces and deductive reasoning. But hey, at least this doesn't interfere with your skill at mowing down scores of gangsters with lethal force.

>>58069 Fair, but in that case is it worth it to get a Timberwolf for 100 CP more than an Atlas upgraded with Clantech. >>58071 That. . . doesn't sound right but would tip things in favor of the Timberwolf if true.

>>58074 I will consider that. The Tim Burton Batman also openly kills people. He strapped a bomb to one of Penguin's goons and just shoved him off screen to die in an explosion maybe a drawback as to just how bad Gotham is. The first movie has a hooker trying to proposition an actual child in from of his parents. It is in the first three minutes of the movie.

>>58072 sonuvabitch, someone finally explained how their supplement mode drawback works. I'm not even going to try to argue with you about why you shouldn't be screwing around with other people's jumps' mechanics. Instead, as the author of ~1/3rd of the WoD jumps on the drive, allow me to introduce a new rule to all my jumps, effective immediately: >If you have reached this document via any means other than it appearing as the next jump in your linear list of jumps or via a Companion import option in this document (such as through a "supplement mode"), you do not get a build. You start with no CP and cannot gain CP. You have no background and cannot take Perks, Items, Companions, Scenarios, or Drawbacks. You do not obtain any alt form. In the event that a Drawback or other mechanic contradicts this note, this rule takes precedence.

>>58056 >Timber Wolf Pleb mech. Any of the Marauders, Crabs or the like are the superior choice.

>>58077 >sonuvabitch, someone finally explained how their supplement mode drawback works He literally just said "It works however you want it to work" >Bitching rule And you still somehow managed to completely misinterpret how supplements work. Your ruling quite literally does nothing

>>58062 You were so caught up in writing that you didn't even complete your sentence, leaving it a run on fragment. Re-read this and see where your train of thought derailed. >The fact that you're in the corner whining about how there's no such thing a real quality and that you can't objectively say a three page jump where everything is one sentence long but makes you a million time stronger than the protagonist just proves you don't belong here either. It's odd that you immediately jumped to assuming that "there is no such thing as real quality". Quality is subjective. What I recognize as quality is a reflection of time and effort, but I know all too well that the same time and effort can be seen as a lack of quality because other people prefer brevity and succinctness. So what is "real quality"? What I consider quality is real. What you consider quality is real. But they don't necessarily overlap, because it's a matter of taste. Making jumps isn't a process like manufacturing steel where you can set a KPI based on metal purity. But that is besides the point. This was not about people's quality metrics. It's about how pointless the whole circlejerk is. Instead of making something better, they're content to repeat the same thing over and over, while expecting other people to agree with them mindlessly. There isn't any catharsis or entertainment value to it after nine years of this. These people have been trained like Pavlov's Dog. >>58066 An objective truth has no exceptions. Which is what the hardcore drive puritans believe in. Which is fine, up until the point where they try to shove that mindset down other people's throat, or they start arguments over it like they're campaigning for something. Like the "invalid jump" anon. It's unproductive.

>>58078 Well it does have versatility going for it, which is nice. Otherwise I was thinking an Atlas or King Crab in the assault weight class.

>>58078 The objective best choice is anything that solely uses energy weapons. Ammunition is expensive after all

>>58078 >not rocking an Awesome You are pathetic. >>58075 If you're a clanner then your mech buys can be omnis already. The omnimech option is there to turn your mech into an omni so you can convert it's loadouts quickly if that's something you value. If you just want a single loadout in a clantech refit assault as a freebirth then just buy clantech and ignore the omni.

>>58079 >He literally just said "It works however you want it to work" Which means that my jumps would have to otherwise be balanced around the existence of an official supplement to them which does or doesn't cause all starting locations, age roles, backgrounds, races, perks, items, and drawbacks to change in an unknown way. Which is impossible. >Your ruling quite literally does nothing Explain the exegesis of rules by which you can interpret this new note as not impacting a jumper's build.

>>58056 Don't grab an assault mech. Grab the LCT-6M Locust, which can run at 302km/h and carries only laser weapons. Sure you'll have basically no armour, but you'll be running around faster than anyone can actually react to AND you won't ever need to reload

>>58081 If you're going for a Atlar or King Crab then to game the jump you'd be better getting a clan dropship, a couple sets of battle armour to use as templates to sell and then just raiding Helm before anyone else gets there. >>58082 Full energy loadout Black Knight is my go to in BTAdvance, it's good pretty much all the way through and even with like 3 clan PPCs and clan double heatskins you can alpha on literally every turn. >>58084 >Awesome Ew. Why would you ever choose that when the Rifleman III exists.

>>58085 >Which means that my jumps would have to otherwise be balanced around the existence of an official supplement to them which does or doesn't cause all starting locations, age roles, backgrounds, races, perks, items, and drawbacks to change in an unknown way. Which is impossible. Yes, it HAS been widely accepted for more than a decade that you can't balance your jump around things people are bringing in from other jumps. I don't know why you're surprised by this? >Explain the exegesis of rules by which you can interpret this new note as not impacting a jumper's build. Oh, that's easy! When you use a supplement, you make a build for two jumps and run them at the same time. You don't use a supplement mode to visit another jump

>>58056 The Pillager is pretty cool, 100 ton assault mech with jump jets, two gauss rifles, 4 medium lasers, and a large laser. Just slap a small pulse laser on it and you have a mobile unit that can engage and manuever against almost any threat at long range or ride up and pound the shit out of said threat a close range.

>>58076 Based shotacon prostitute.

>>58089 Pulse laser is for infantry, I forgot to mention that. But that is more of my preference then necessity.

>>58087 Because it's Awesome you secondary faggot.

>>58088 >Yes, it HAS been widely accepted for more than a decade that you can't balance your jump around things people are bringing in from other jumps. A supplement mode does more than bring in additional power or at least, this one might. It modifies (or doesn't) the setting and Drawbacks, without Drawback primacy being invoked because Drawbacks don't trump other Drawbacks. This means that my Drawbacks that are now vastly stronger/weaker than they were intended are no longer balanced. >Oh, that's easy! When you use a supplement, you make a build for two jumps and run them at the same time. You don't use a supplement mode to visit another jump Making a build for a jump applies the Notes for that jump. If I am reading perks out of a jump document and putting them into a build, certainly I have "reached this document". Is there a wording you think would be better?

>>58092 Whats that? I couldn't hear you beneath my jump jets.

>>58094 Whatever ya say, skeet.

If you want a Clanner Awesome get a Hellstar. Its better as a mech but looks lamer.

>>58095 The only good thing to comefrom the Awesome.

>>58097 IMO while the Awesomann is cool it's not as great as its predecessor.

>>58084 >If you're a clanner then your mech buys can be omnis already. I'm rather new to battletech but despite having cool toys the Clans seem. . . retarded. Like commit faction scale suicide in a war they should win retarded. >>58086 I briefly considered the Locust variant that trades its 'arm' guns for medium and small laser pairs, for some actual fire power on the thing. But the Locust seems like a meme, a fun meme but still a meme. >>58087 I figure If I got an Atlas and put a companion in a King Crab and two others in light/medium mechs that could make a decent Lance, with the Assaults being the main force and the other two serving to counter flanking attempts. >>58089 Those guns do sound nice. . .

>>58093 So I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea what you're babbling about. But imo at least, a supplement is inherently the second jump in the operation. So someone would already have to be in your jump, and then decide 'not spicy enough, needs more dudes of legend', and then there were two jumps. So your whole thing about how if you reach this jump by another other means... is completely useless? Realistically tho, interjump balance is a fucking joke, don't even bother to try.

>>58096 The Hellstar is minmaxed garbage. How is it fun to play? It and all other dual+ gauss, dual+ cerppc, cpl spam mechs suck ass.

>>58099 >two others in light/medium Vapor Eagle is a pretty good clan medium, failing that the Raven or Spider are good for scouting. Or you can go for the 400km/h locust. You could skip out on having others and just make a Steiner scout lance of Lich's

>>58099 What era are you in?

Tell me about ridiculously cool guns. One of them isn't like the other

>>58100 The normal course of events is that the Benefactor chooses your jumps. You do not even know what jumps will be given to you in the future, much less have the ability to read them. Certainly, there is nothing in my Vampire: The Masquerade jump which allows a jumper to read the Dudes of Legend jump and start choosing Drawbacks out of that foreign jump's Drawback section. What DOES seem to work, is that I could get the Dudes of Legend jump, read the Drawback section, choose "How to be Fucking Awesome" out of it to apply to my build, and then choose the Vampire: The Masquerade jump as the custom jump option for that Drawback. >Realistically tho, interjump balance is a fucking joke, don't even bother to try. You are the one who is writing supplements for my jumps that interfere with their mechanics. I didn't ask for this and don't want it, but now that my jumps officially have a optional supplement, it's up to me to try to balance them around this new fact.

>>58105 Well one of these is magic, which is crazy to me because terraria has plenty of ridiculous, cool, and ridiculously cool guns

>>58105 The railgun from Anders fires 1mm spheres of depleted uranium at .25c made out of only Earth tech. Otherwise I kinda like the cool Ceph guns from Crysis even though it's mostly just their version of terraforming equipment.

>>58106 Would it make you feel any better if I trashed the drawback and replaced it with a line in the notes saying ‘you can use this jump as a supplement to another wod jump’ I’m pretty sure the difference is meaningless, but if it makes you feel less bitchy then I don’t mind.

>>58104 Planning for either 3025 or 3049 for the Clan invasion.

>>58110 As you said, the distinction is meaningless. It doesn't matter whether you write a document that starts messing with my jump's mechanics through a Drawback or starts messing with my jump's mechanics through a note. The result is that my jump's balance is now borked (or worse the rules are no longer even well defined) and it's my job to clean up the mess you made with your horrendous overreach and breach of etiquette.

>>58111 Are you joining the winning team?

>>58110 Dude. It's Genericanon. Genericanon is one of the biggest autistic retards here, and never stops whining about shit. It's best to just ignore him.

>>58113 >the winning team The phone company?

>>58107 **I lost the SDMG pic, so I decided that since I have Golden Shower, might as well==

>>58114 If it is the same guy, it would be nice if he would at least have the courtesy to put on a trip.

>>58114 I am also the largest author of the small selection of jumps he is screwing with here, so I feel like a I have a justifiably greater than normal interest in the issue.

>>58116 Fail.

>>58113 It seems like the Clans exist to be dumb, die in battles they should've won, and commit suicide by Comcast; so while I'd happily take their discounts in the jump I'd prefer to join the Lyrans or the Suns in setting.

>>58117 He hates doing that because then he can't pretend to be multiple people to make it look like his views have more support than himself. He's done that before and admitted to doing so.

>>58117 He never trips, sadly. That would make it too easy to filter his bitchy ass.

>>58115 Don't they lose pretty much everything, get butthurt and then brigh their entire network because one crazy lady gets put in charge. I'll give it to them that their successor org made a pretty cool thing with "The Wall" >>58121 >I'd prefer to join the Lyrans or the Suns in setting Disappointing, go full Taurian and be bullheaded.

>>58112 I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but, uh, no. The balance is not 'now' borked, the balance has always been borked. Supplements have been a thing for years, reddit recently decided that hyperspecific jumps to have a sharingan or a dragonborn or a digidestined that you could slap on top of other jumps to make them more interesting needed to be a thing, and then there's the good old 'i don't fucking know, fanwank something' wherein someone will jump every wod vampire jump at the same time, just because. official rules mean nothing. Anyone who dislikes supplements will ignore me adding one. Anyone who likes them will ignore your attempts to invalidate it. Interjump balance is a fucking joke.

>>58111 If you're in 3025 then the Atlas/King Crab combo are slow and short ranged so you'll want something fast with good range to support them. The any of the Wolverine/Shadow Hawk/Griffin trio would do fine in that role but if you prefer a different medium that could work too. For the light something like a bug would be fine, though you could run a Panther to beef up your ranged firepower as a counter to other lights instead. In 3049 there is a lot more tech to play with. While you can do dual gauss cancer for your assault battleline to push the range out you're going to want a fast medium to skirmish with and something sneaky to scout, a Raven would be good here but since the 3L only entered production in 48 you might go for something else.

>>58125 Just ignore GenericAnon. It's the most sane and reasonable thing to do.

>>58087 >5th pic of Taihou dropship Looks great but kind of dogshit as an actual dropship and only half-assed as a pocket warship. Shame, it's probably the best looking aerodyne dropship too.

What jumps is this guy even bitching about? I wanna run a train of supplements on them.

>>58125 what the fuck are the out of context shit in the reddit drive anyway?

>>58117 He will never ever do that. He's freely admitted to not wanting to do so because then it means nobody gets to deal with him getting up in their face and screeching about shit that doesn't matter anymore.

>>58128 NTA but what's wrong with the Taihou?

>>58105 Unfortunately Dead Cells does not have a shark gun. It has a shark... club I guess? You use it for two melee hits then throw the shark at your enemy to bite them.

>>58129 He mentioned Vampire: The Masquerade and is whining about Dudes of Legend, so I presume he's talking about White Wolf-related jumps.

>>58128 >best looking aerodyne dropship too I like the bulky design of it but the Drost has always been more interesting to me, even if it was counted as a failure in setting. I'm not sure if it really fucks up as a pocket warship given the 4 sub-caps when compared to something like the Conquistador which has none

>>58130 They're generic racial jumps, but you're supposed to be going to settings your race isn't from. It's for stuff like getting isekai'd to DC as Sonic the Hedgehog or a Keyblade Master

>>58130 They got too lazy to make a jump that would fit the skill set they wanted, so they made a supplement to get the skill set without attaching it to the setting.

>>58121 >Lyrans or the Suns I would say you have terminal shit taste but those are decent factions for getting into the setting and if you like them, then you like them and there's nothing really wrong with that. I'll still shoot you though.

>>58129 On our drive, it's basically just Cultist Simulator. There's no point in actually bothering with him though, GenericAnon's never going to change his idea of what a Supplement is. Dude's had it explained to him over and over and over and over for literal years and he still can't understand the basic premise

>>58125 >Supplements have been a thing for years Supplement mode on our drive (nobody gives a fuck about Reddit) started with Poka the Blind Girl's author sneaking it in as a line in the notes, but without mentioning that you get a build. Then Cultist Simulator's author came in, was asked to explain basic shit about the jump's Supplement Mode (such as "is this the kind of supplement mode where you merge worlds or the kind of supplement mode where you make a build for both worlds but only go to one?"), refused to answer, and ran off back to Reddit. Many months later, unrelated anons stuck it on the drive, where it was accepted. More recently, Merge had a supplement mode, again without specifying anything about it. So no, you're the first person to step up and proudly say you think it's okay to use other people's jump documents in yours like this. Reddit does it? Too bad, we aren't Reddit, we don't accept Reddit's (lack of) standards, you are are well aware of that. >Anyone who likes them will ignore your attempts to invalidate it. And then I'll be able to tell them to stop whining that my jump is unbalanced if they house ruled out a big red note about balance I put into it. >>58131 I do not doubt at all that you would be right where I am if someone had tried to use a Drawback in another jump to get around the end-of-humanity-causes-chain-fail thing in that one occult TTRPG jump you tried to make.

>>58072 Chuck Wendig is infamous in anti-woke circles for being one of the most prominent drivers of woke bullshit in fandom spaces, most notably for having been one of the main people to have ruined Star Wars but he's responsible for a lot.

>>58133 It has some stupidly fun ranged options though. Those fucking Crossbows. Heavy Crossbow, Repeater Crossbow, Ice Crossbow, Explosive Crossbow. I know the meta is using the Legenddary Cursed Sword and git gud no hit run everything, but it's too stressfull for me, so I go by the Baseball Bat and The Boy's Axe.

>>58139 Because everyone who explains it to me gives a completely different and contradictory explanation. Just a few posts ago was the first time I have ever heard this alleged rule about being able to take Drawbacks from another jump document. Here's an idea: if you're so mad about me (the person constantly whining about how Supplement Mode's supporters refuse to provide strictly defined rules for Supplement Mode) not knowing the rules for Supplement Mode... how about you tell me the rules for Supplement Mode like I constantly ask you to every time this discussion comes up?

Making a supplement, what do you guys think? >You gain a gorllion more points. >Can only be used on genericanons jumps. Y/N?

>>58139 I wonder if he realizes that the very first jump I made (Nyanko Days) has a supplement mode. And well predates Cultist Simulator.

>>58145 Y

>>58145 If it makes him suffer, then sure.

>>58145 Only if it gives you a free crate of Gorilla Glue as a gift.

>>58145 Ye

>>58145 >genericanons jumps He made jumps?

>>58144 I've literally never seen anyone give contradictory explanations. It's literally always been "do two jumps at once, you figure out how age/sex/location works on your own" I know I've personally given you this exact explanation six times that I've found in the archives so far >>58146 Probably not? He doesn't realize Cultist Simulator's been on the drive longer than Poka either

People really want to shitpost about generics huh. I understand the feeling, but still.

>>58144 NTA but supplements are just "make a build for both docs and get both of their effects at the same time." That's it. How settings merge, if there is a setting to merge from the supplement(s) at all, is up to you.

>>58154 Prediction: he will ignore you, or say that this contradicts what one guy said twenty morbillion years ago

>>58140 >I do not doubt at all that you would be right where I am if someone had tried to use a Drawback in another jump to get around the end-of-humanity-causes-chain-fail thing in that one occult TTRPG jump you tried to make. I don't care enough about that to give a shit. I even went ahead and changed it so you could fuck around however you like with Esoterrorists setting, just don't expect there to be a safety net if you can't fix what you broke. And if someone decided to do interjump shit with it, then I'd just feel content knowing they cared enough to even bother making a build for one of my jumps just for the sake of trying to find a creative way around it. Unlike you, I do not get ulcers from the mere idea of Supplements so I'm not going to lose sleep if people try to rules-lawyer their way against my jumps.

>>58138 I'm rather new to the setting and of the 'major' factions that I actually know something about the Capellans exist to get dunked on, the Combine hates mercs which is a likely career path, the Free World's League is an endless pit of civil war (which isn't a bad thing for a potential Merc I suppose), and the Clans have the best tech but are also clinically retarded with even the competent parts agreeing to an obvious gambit to get them to commit collective suicide against the phone company. The Lyrans are rich as fuck but keep letting random idiots get power with money and thus can't leverage that economy into anything other than drowning foes in Assault Mechs.. The Suns are. . . the space British. . . but they have some good stuff and have some superficial sun theming, which I always like for dumb reasons. While not ideal and maybe there are more appealing smaller factions I've not learned much about but they seem like the most appealing ones with tolerable downsides and some fun advantages.

>>58125 If it's all houserules and fanwank then why does the supplement toggle need to exist in the first place? Won't people who do that sort of thing just do it even if it doesn't exist? I've honestly never understood this.

>>58151 He tends to drop jumps at random while accepting no feedback. Except with the Eberron jump where he got into a multi-thread long argument trying to defend his decision to put in a mandatory non-canon limit to how far we could advance in the local classes, because he thinks having the basic potential of a human in D&D means you'll instantly become omnipotent? or something. He eventually threw a tantrum and removed that limit while adding in a note that you can just start off with however many levels you want in whatever class you want

>>58132 It ways 12,000 tons but can only carry 36 power armor troops, 2 aerospace craft, and can carry 472 tons of cargo. It has 400 tons of fuel capacity but it only lasts 1.84 days. If it has an actual mechbay for carrying mechs I haven't seen the stats for it so I'm pretty sure any mechs it ends up carrying eat into that 472 tons of cargo space. Compare that to a Leopard dropship which weighs 1900, less than a sixth the taihou, which can carry 4 battle mechs, 2 aerospace fighters and has 34 tons of storage capacity. It can carry 137 tons of fuel and can last 74.5 days. It is also dramatically cheaper than a Taihou. I haven't been able to find exact prices but given the ubiquity of leopards and the sophisticated and expensive equipment on a taihou you could probably have 10 leopards for the price of one Taihou. From a comparison between the two the Leopard can carry the same amount of aerospace fighters, the same amount of mechs (roughly, but in actual mech bays) and at a fraction of the price in upfront costs and fuel and maintenance costs. TLDR - If the taihou was going to be a dropship, make it a dropship. If it was going to be a pocket warship then focus exclusively on that. Trying to do both means it doesn't do either job particularly well.

>>58099 >But the Locust seems like a meme, a fun meme but still a meme. Locusts ARE a meme. The LCT-6M is the biggest meme of them all. It's still fun as heck tho

>>58146 I was not. It probably slipped by due to my unfamiliarity with the SB-sourced concept many years ago. >>58152 And the idea of coming into a collaborative CYOA project, writing an option that says "all of the rules for a different part of this project, written by other people, change in a way which I refuse to define" is unusable. You cannot play a CYOA that refuses to define what any of the choices do, especially when people already had a bunch of well defined choices and you've come in to change them all. >>58154 >How settings merge, if there is a setting to merge from the supplement(s) at all, is up to you. Not in the Cultist Simulator jump, which quite unambiguously mandates that the settings DO merge.

>>58158 If it's all imagination and fanfic writing then why do jumps need to exist in the first place? Won't people who enjoy that sort of thing just write fanfics even if the jump doesn't exist? Same principle. Yes, you can do it anyways. It's just easier and simpler for some to have a jump, or to have a specific option saying "Hey, you can combine this with another setting for extra fun!"

>>58162 Man, you just can't help yourself can you?

>>58163 >If it's all imagination and fanfic writing then why do jumps need to exist in the first place? Because it's NOT all imagination and fanfic. It's rules. That's all a CYOA with a non-OC setting is: a list of rules that you are meant to choose between. > It's just easier and simpler for some to have a jump How is it any "simpler" if the people writing it refuse to define how it works? What about the process has been simplified?

>>58161 >>58099 >Locust 432 km/h Locust configuration, MASC and a supercharger Load it with 2 ER Small lasers, one er medium and double heatsinks it becomes an impossible discoball.

>>58164 Again, best to just ignore him. Otherwise he'll never shut up. He can, and has, eaten enitre threads with his autism if people keep feeding him.

>>58157 If you're a merc I'd say go with Lyrans because they're the rich ones and they're not absolutely terrible as a society even if they do have a lot of terminally stupid social generals. Suns would be after that, then FWL. Fuck the Combine and I the Capellans kind of suck in general. Depending on when you start in the timeline you could also pull some shenanigans like being the one to discover and loot the Helm castle brain with its memory core and massive storage of pristine SLDF mechs, vehicles and equipment. Or be the one to find and loot that SLDF cache that showed up in the recent-ish Battletech top-down strategy game (mechawarrior? I can't remember the name offhand). Also worth keeping in mind is that if you start early enough you'll never need to worry about the Clans because they'll only show up long after you've already left.

>>58164 He's been throwing this same argument for literal years

>>58157 That's literally all just memes, not entirely wrong but lacking context or exaggerated to a greater or lesser degree. Don't be afraid to ask around /btg/ for information to learn about the setting. Just don't break containment by mentioning us. I'm not going to demand you go and read all the novels but the house books give decent overviews of the factions and you can get them for free off the drive.

>>58167 This. And considering we go on for 2000 posts here, it would be hell to deal with him for that long.

Update on Naruto shit: Jumper is much stronger after the time skip than initially speculated. He's probably only a little weaker than Itachi or Pain, though he handily surpasses them and could rival Obito when he enters sage mode. The issue is he can't maintain sage mode very long at all yet. This has retroactively upscaled Jumper's dad and mom.

>>58135 Yeah but the conquistador can transport 24 mechs, 18 aerospace fighters, 12 heavy vehicles and an entire company of soldiers. The taihou by comparison doesn't even appear to have an actual mech bay. It might be able to outshoot the conq but the conq can actually land troops and do the job of a dropship.

>>58162 >And the idea of coming into a collaborative CYOA project, writing an option that says "all of the rules for a different part of this project, written by other people, change in a way which I refuse to define" is unusable Yet somehow everyone except you finds it perfectly useable. Or something so incredibly trivial that it's not worth paying attention to It also isn't changing all the rules, it's maybe changing one part of the build that a bunch of people just straight up ignore anyways >You cannot play a CYOA that refuses to define what any of the choices do, especially when people already had a bunch of well defined choices and you've come in to change them all. ... Have... you never played a CYOA before? Because choices that don't define what they do are actually pretty common

>>58167 >>58169 I'm aware, I've seen it in action. It's just kinda painful to watch. Like a dumb chihuahua running into a glass door, over and over again, never realizing that glass exists. You keep wanting to open the door, but the dumb dog starts growling, barking, and biting at you whenever you so much as approach. Then just keeps running directly into the glass door.

>>58173 I never actually noticed the Tai didn't have any mech bay, had to read the Sarna entry on it and thats fucking pathetic for a dropship. Although it's a Drac ship so what can you expect. >>58168 Helm should already be looted by the time they start, it was 3028 it got hit. The New Dallas core and a Mothball yard there alongside a HPG sitting in a satelite in space. Also that prestine Colossus class dropship is sitting on Epsilon Eridani till like 3070 so there's that too.

>>58172 What happened?

>>58170 >That's literally all just memes, not entirely wrong but lacking context or exaggerated to a greater or lesser degree. True, I've been watching some lore videos on the big factions but a lot of the key points I care about in the context of a jump the same ones being memed about. >the house books give decent overviews of the factions and you can get them for free off the drive. That. . . is something I think I'll grab, even if I don't read them right away.

>>58174 >Yet somehow everyone except you finds it perfectly useable Because they refuse to think through the actual consequences and meaning of a build while piling on more dopamine generating "This perk uses a lot of words that make me sound strong YAY!" options. >It also isn't changing all the rules,it's maybe changing one part of the build that a bunch of people just straight up ignore anyways A supplement mode, depending on its exact rules might change the physical and magical system you carry forward to new jumps, ages, starting locations, backgrounds, alt forms, perks, items, companions, and drawbacks. Every single thing in a jump is subject to change via combination with another jump. >... Have... you never played a CYOA before? Because choices that don't define what they do are actually pretty common Yeah, low quality CYOAs exist by the boat load. They don't tend to last as long or get as popular as Jumpchain, which has a flexible but well defined system for how things fit together, to the extent that most people pick it up via osmosis instead of even reading the rules.

>>58176 Ignore that Helm comment it was 3028 that happened, so they'd have to start really early for that and miss out on the Clan stuff in 3049. They'd be in time for the Argo stuff in 3025 though but thats not really cannon and there was someone making an HBO battletech jump

>>58172 reminder that unless you're a jinchuriki to a hostile bijuu, you could just have a small animal on your body gather natural energy for you.

>>58181 Speaking of the HBO battletech jump is there any word on how that's going? It's been a while since the guy making it gave an update on it I think.

>>58181 The Argo is actually canon, just not the vidya version, the canon version lacks all the extra cool bullshit like automated repair/manufacturing facilities but its more or less there as a vessel.

>>58180 Reposting from the Jumpmaking Thread. Well, yesterday was the last test of college/university for me, so as promised, I have been working on the Tomie jump. I have once more read all of Junji Ito’s Tomie stuff Turns out the dead wife guy was not a detective, dunno why I put that in my head, I suppose my mind just associated it with the cult stuff. Nearly done with the options, but I still need to fluff it all, and do another re-read to see what stuff I can quote the manga for the name. If anyone has any suggestions/Requests fell free to say them. Should have a WIP ready early this week, and hopefully the full thing before the end of it.

>>58177 I just realized given all the circumstances surrounding Jumper and his training he would be way stronger. He also tapped into the Naruto shadow clone training method by having the chakra wolf feed him chakra the whole time. He also mastered FTG to the same degree as Minato and isn't that much slower than him. He's kind of a freak right now.

>>58181 A jump for the 2018 Battletech game would be pretty cool, it's a small an easily digestible portion of the setting.

>>58182 That was Ma and Pa specifically though and they seem to be masters of sage mode. I'm not sure you could just train a dog to gather sage energy for you. Ma and Pa probably wouldn't wanna help Jumper, if only because they wanna be on standby for Jiraiya.

>>58184 Huh thats nice to know, even without the extras the fact it can act as a KF extender and a massive carrier means it's worth picking up. Also the huge fucking grav decks and pool. >>58183 >>58187 23 March was when I last saw them post and they got held up with it. >95355374 4chan post

>>58179 >Because they refuse No, it's because most people can understand the basic idea of "pick your own age/sex/location". >A supplement mode, depending on its exact rules might change the physical and magical system you carry forward to new jumps, ages, starting locations, backgrounds, alt forms, perks, items, companions, and drawbacks. Every single thing in a jump is subject to change via combination with another jump. Holy fuck I knew you didn't understand the idea of "take two jumps at the same time" despite literal years of people trying to explain it, but I didn't think your interpretation was so incredibly stupid. Physical/Magical systems are already incredibly subjective things, even when taking a jump as a standalone. They work the way the person making the builds thinks they work Alt-forms, races, perks, and items wouldn't change. I'm not sure why you think they would? The only thing that'd change is Age/Sex/Starting location, which a lot of people just flat out ignore anyways? >Yeah, low quality CYOAs exist by the boat load. They don't tend to last as long or get as popular as Jumpchain, which has a flexible but well defined system for how things fit together, to the extent that most people pick it up via osmosis instead of even reading the rules. It's not just low quality CYOAs that have ill-defined options. Every single jump with an open ended pick a power perk, like most of your oWoD jumps, do it too.

>>58181 iirc the argo got canonized when a splat book came out detailing that one periphery state faction the game is about. Some of its details got changed though, iirc for example it's 97k tons instead of 100k tons.

Is this doctor who jump finished in uploads? Cant open the imaged version for shit on my end

>>58185 A perk to make it so in future jumps you can toggle at the start of the jump whether they're "normal" or whether they're horrific nightmare-fuel worlds as written by Junji Ito.

>>58187 You could probably cut Battletech up into eras and get like 4 jumps from it. Age of War, Fall of the Star League, Succession Wars then Clan invasion. The stuff after the Clan invasion is kinda meh so could be skipped and nothing really happens in the Star League era itself outside of them doing horrible shit to the periphery but that could be folded into the Age of War part

>>58192 It's complete, but it is shit. Hopefully it doesn't get into the drive.

>>58194 The Jihad is cool...

>>58192 Don't think it is. I got a copy of the pdf though

>>58190 Don't feed GenericAnon. Nothing good comes from interacting with him.

>>58195 >>58197 Ah ok there is a non imaged version, my bad

>>58191 >splat book came >House Arano (The Aurigan Coalition) So it did. >cargo capacity of 57,039.5 tons Fucking lol, no wonder you can cram in a million fucking mech parts in the game. >>58196 Eh I'll give you that, I was more referring to the Republic of the Sphere shit where Stone decides to figuratively nuke the Merc business and everyone has lost their telephone privileges

Alright fuck it, I'm a hypocrite, but I can't let this stand. >>58165 >Because it's NOT all imagination and fanfic. >Jumpchain isn't a single player imagination game GenericAnon, do you even understand what Jumpchain is on a fundamental level?

>>58201 Please let it. drop

>>58201 I already warned GenericAnon, please let this pointless discussion die.

>>58202 >>58203 I'm letting it drop now, but I just had to get that last one in.

>>58201 >>58201 Jumpchain is 11 years old, at this point it's either a way of life or a child we have all collectively raised terribly.

I'm going to build my own SDS system when I get to Battletech.

I think that I am being perfectly calm and am staying away from personal attacks, while debating the rules of Jumpchain in a rational manner. >>58190 >No, it's because most people can understand the basic idea of "pick your own age/sex/location". I cannot "understand" how you can read a rule that says "roll 14+1d8 for your age or pay 50 CP to choose freely" and a rule that says "roll 20+3d8 for your age or pay 100 CP to choose freely" being combined into a free age choice because that makes no sense. >Physical/Magical systems are already incredibly subjective things, even when taking a jump as a standalone. They work the way the person making the builds thinks they work Granted. >Alt-forms, races, perks, and items wouldn't change. I'm not sure why you think they would? Jump A has dragons as mindless beasts. Jump B has dragons as wise magic wielding hermits. I buy a dragon race in my build for Jump B and a human race for my build in Jump A. What happens? Is it different if this is one of those supplement modes where you merge worlds instead of one of those in which there you make a build for one setting then go to another. If I supplement DBZ onto DC, and it's one of those supplements where the worlds merge, how to I companion Goku Kent who assuredly exists in the merged world? And that's my number one gripe about Supplement Mode. On top of all the other things wrong with it, people insist on using only one term to describe the very different ideas of merging two jumps' worlds and of making a build for two jumps while only going to the second jump's world. >The only thing that'd change is Age/Sex/Starting location, which a lot of people just flat out ignore anyways? What about people like me, who don't ignore those rules? >>58201 Yes, do you? We aren't making new settings here. We're defining rules for a game, using popular IPs. The specific rules for the game define it as Jumpchain and not the similarly themed CYOA called Crossing the Verse, which is a totally different set of rules for being a repeat isekai protagonist keeping powers between new worlds. >>58203 I do not accept the idea that calmly discussing whether it is a good idea to allow other authors to write unauthorized supplements to my jump is "pointless", and am happy to take the discussion back to /tg/ if you disagree.

>>58205 Does it matter which one if the game's still fun?

Is it morally wrong to use your vast cosmic powers to change all women's clothing into slutty harem garb?

>>58205 Imagine if we awaken our chain using the collective autsim energy throughout the years like some warhammer shit. That be cool n shit.

>>58206 For what purpose?

>>58206 Why? Buf if you do there's a bunch of drone weapons in Castle Nautilus that are just sitting for you to grab. Otherwise you'll need to raid Comstar blacksites for the tech unless you want to just straight up recreate your own but that way leads to AI madness when they look into jump hyperspace

>>58210 No, and in fact you should do it immediately, and have it be retroactive as well so nobody questions it.

>>58208 >and am happy to take the discussion back to /tg/ if you disagree I strongly suggest you do. In fact, I feel that I speak for many of us when I ask that you go back to /tg/ and remain there for the foreseeable future.

>>58212 >>58213 I think its pretty neat, sure there are plenty of better options but by god I want my SDS system with all the cool drone swarms of warships, dropships, and ASFs and those Pavise battlestations.

>>58193 While there is an artstyle perk, somenthing like that fells like it would fit better for a general Junji Ito jump, Tomie has Tomie and her consequences on the world, the bodyhopper and arguably Souichi if you include the crossover Although there is a multi tier drawback for rest of his works.