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/iemg/ & /pmpg/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General Anonymous 04/18/2025 (Fri) 00:41:51 No. 17869 >>17971
Renaissance Edition How to request advice: >Budget >Intended use (media, source, environment) >Frequency response preference and music examples >Past gear and your thoughts on them FAQ: >Where do I buy IEMs? Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio >Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.): https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide >EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.): https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/ >/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki: https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/ >Frequency Response Graph Tool squig.link >Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs: • Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20 • Truthear Gate (Neutral) - $23 • EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35 • Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Warm Neutral) - $35 >Bullet IEMs: • Tanchjim ONE DSP (Neutral) - $28 • Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140 >Flathead Earbuds: • Blue Vido (Warm) - $5 • Faaeal Iris 2.0 (Warm) - $10 >USB-C DACs: • JCALLY JM20 - $24 • Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38 • Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45 • Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110 >PMPs: • HiBy R1 - $85 • Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120 • HiBy M300 - $200
[Expand Post]• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200 >AVOID USING: • Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos
best amp with replaceable battery?
>>17876 snowsky retro nano
>>17877 >"randomly FIIO custom high-capacity 3.7v 450mAh lithium battery" i was thinking more like AA
Holy fuck. Did the ratzos follow us here??
>>17878 eh you won't find much better than that, they used something with an AAA form for smaller form factor the nano uses 10440 batteries, you can find a pack of 4 rechargeable ones with higher capacity for like $15
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just bought these, for $4 its surprisingly good.
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GY HiFi-67 received. Great cable, top class handling and memory, and braiding quality is good (not excellent, a bit loose but no excess/misalignment) Ear hooks are also decently stiff, and it's above average thickness for an 8-core cable.
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>>17869 (OP) Henlo. TY baker.
How we liking this new way of showing insertion depth variation?
>>17999 That's cool! But don't forget, this is also highly individual ear dependent.
>>17962 I also got this one!! Should have it by the end of the week!!
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FAEAAL Iris 2.0 for fun too. >>18006 Oh yeah of course, it's just a fun thing to visualize >>18024 Nice, it's a very good one, I especially like the hardware for the plug. The chin cinch is a quite tight. Sucks that I don't have any IEM that match it aesthetically, so in the cable storage box it goes.
Best waifu earbuds (wired)?
What's the point of these kind of headphones vs like, any other headphone?
>>18052 this or epz custom pos just dont be like foxzo or isabellezo pls >>18053 >headphones bad sound quality, overpriced for what they offer, headphone hair also not portable enough to go out with, but also not good enough to replace speakers >earphones iems = earphones >earbuds shit with no silicone tips, same problem as with headphones
>>18055 Fuck I go out with headphones on, it's easy to tell I'm wearing them so it keeps normies from speaking to me, they sound better than any "IEM" I've used, IEMs make my ear insides feel yucky if I use them too much and they get gunky with yucky stuff >>18055
>>18056 >Fuck I go out with headphones on my condolences >it's easy to tell I'm wearing them so it keeps normies from speaking to me im ugly so i cant speak on that >they sound better than any "IEM" I've used probably if you dont use eq >IEMs make my ear insides feel yucky if I use them too much and they get gunky with yucky stuff only when i wear etymotic, the rest are completely fine, you got shit genes lol
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>>18063 >"I'm ugly" >Y-you have shit genes I'm not going to tell you you're incorrect about your headphone preference, but I disagree with you, and your argument has convinced me I am better than you >>18063
>>18072 post what headphones youre using neow and at least im pretty on the inside (of my ears)
>>18073 In between headphones currently, it's why I was asking
>>18074 sure but what headphones were you using? like what have you listened to up till now?
>>18075 I had a planetronics RIG I believe since 2014 I think? it's been a while, I spent like 350 (australian) dollars, I don't remember the exact model
>>18076 ok yeah so those are most certainly complete shit honestly any of the recommended iems will decimate those shitphones, but its also probable that you got used to their shit sound
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>>18077 Anon, realize that I stopped caring about your opinion when you said >you have shit genes and >I'm ugly in the same post, my curiosity about your crappy/inferior earbuds has come to an end, I'll find some nice headphones that are more comfortable, sound better, and don't come out of my ears covered in shit or cause an ear infection, you keep your hobbies anon
>>18080 at least ask the fine folks in /hpg/ then oh wait they all died of ear cancer, tough luck
>>18081 They'll be back to tell me to spend 2000 dollars on a headset I'm sure (I'll spend it too)
Xixtas.... 4U BLACKED version HYPE!!!
>>18100 maybe its the lighting, but i kinda prefer the original version
>>18044 Have you tried the Yincrow x6? Wondering how it compares to the Iris 2.0.
>>18100 this girl is cute as fuck.
>>18121 I have a while back, X6 was a bassier and warmer while the Iris 2.0 felt more neutral and "correct" in the higher frequency ranges But that's only for me, god knows what you will actually hear on your end. As my animation shows, the response of an earbud is very dependent on the fit so I wouldn't rely on earbud impressions or measurements from anyone
>>18122 too much AI filtering. she doesn't look anywhere close to this IRL
editor here its been a mess and a half, especially during the first two days seems like everything has stabilized so we can try and move forward if 4** is gone 4ever, then we need to find refuge somewhere. there are currently two semi-active /iemg/ threads around. one here on sharty, the other on 8**.moe. the gazette has been updated to reflect the current situation. there is a survey to determine which imageboard is preferable for long term use (or use it to voice your thoughts who cares at this point) and a list of concurrent /iemg/ threads if 4** comes back, i will still monitor every thread that is ongoing for the rest of the month on the day that 4** is restored, after which i will stop so yeah, sit back and enjoy the change, seems like there is decent activity in both instances
>>18486 ignore the formatting im struggling
Just found this place. Fuck soyjak.sharty
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Remember that I WILL rape your earussies with my triple flange tips.
>>18486 BASED! ty editor!
editor here link to survey for those that havent seen it yet https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/Eh2vBQ5uzfhizpnnYWU7FBqJt3sK2eiI5auiqD4-lRY/embed/
>>18553 I can't tell which website is safer and overall better.
>>18489 this, we have more schizos and less pointless soyjak responses here
>>18560 There's 40 posts and nobody has said nigger yet though.
>>18560 >this, we have more schizos and less pointless soyjak responses here soyjack is total shit. 90% of posts are just soyjack posting for the lulz. Or they're just AI generated to increase the perceived traffic.
Currently have an SMSL D6S DAC and an SMSL H300 amp. My friend wants to get into """hifi""" so I'm considering buying an xDuoo TA-32 and giving him my raisin. Quite curious about the tubes. I'm really not too sure about not having I2S just in case though. I don't use IEMs at home much but I also think this amp would be a bit noisy for IEMs. Suppose upgrading the tubes would fix that? I also can't tell why they'd have balanced XLR inputs. I suppose for a phono amp that has a balanced output perhaps?
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I'm addicted to making these animations, pretty sure it's a waste of time compared to what I usually do but it looks so good Also very neat to see how the ear canal resonance (and corresponding harmonics) shift while what appears to be driver resonances (6 and 12 khz) remain static. On another note, I'm still in the process of testing the Retro Nano. It's great for what I use it for, but there are a few things that prevent me from crowning it as being objectively better than the Qudelix 5K, which has much better software and EQ capabilities
I'm a budchud now. Any recs for must try buds? Ironically among the cheapies I have now the Apple Earpods are the best.
>>18574 >I'm a budchud now Tragic, I will pray for you >Apple Earpods are the best. Still very good and the reference for budget sets imo. I genuinely don't think there are any must try buds. Airpods 4 are surprisingly very good in terms of bass output and ANC believe it or not, feels like dark magic. The only method I found of getting excellent sound quality is through measuring them and using EQ.
>>18568 > TRN MT5 Insertion Depth Sweet! Really love these. Thanks anon.
can't even fucking read this gayass captcha
editor here realized i havent really introduced myself im responsible for the iemgazette, which was started as a way to archive valuable posts, discussions, and measurements that were often swept away by the nature of imageboards ive also taken charge of hosting of the eq guide written by someone else, a comprehensive guide on eq and factors to consider now for actual updates the result of the survey have been released to the public, 8 (8chan) to 4 (sharty). the survey will be left open but i have taken note of where it stands as of now. for now i will continue with updates in both instances, but that might change later on i have also sorted out the aes project. for any request, contact me with any of the methods found in the gazette. https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/ https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/ https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/Eh2vBQ5uzfhizpnnYWU7FBqJt3sK2eiI5auiqD4-lRY/embed/
>>18568 tyvm for these, they show very clear what I hear when using triple flange tips vs stock tips: The ear canal resonance peak is shifted to a frequency where it's practically irrelevant, and a boost in all frequencies below 1 kHz. I thought triple flange tips would eliminate the need to eq because there is no need to eq the treble, but it turned out that the sound is too warm with these. (My reference is a pair of active speakers.) So I ended up using a lowshelf filter at 1 kHz set to -3 dB when using triple flange tips. Still better than eqing treble peaks, because this is tricky to get right.
>>18689 Don't understand why people are voting 8chan
>>18689 Thank you for everything you've done, editor! Really appreciate it. >the result of the survey have been released to the public can you post a screencap or something? >>18707 >Don't understand why people are voting 8chan The other place is just soyjack shitposting.
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>>18717 here you go answers before and including the blank answer were submitted before the responses were made public
>>18717 Our general specifically is better on the other place right now.
>>18719 Thanks! >>18721 >Our general specifically is better on the other place right now. 8chan is getting more PPH on most of the threads that I'm watching on both boards. I don't know what the future's gonna be like.
>>18722 Well yeah it's much newer than 8chan.
I just don't understand the whole premise of this website. You make and moderate your own board and you add your own rules on top of the global ones?
>>18724 >I just don't understand the whole premise of this website. You make and moderate your own board and you add your own rules on top of the global ones? Yes. On 4chan, mods and owner made all the decisions on rules. Over here, you can have the board owner and community make them instead.
>>18721 >better on the other place right now. i'll stick with the measurements and pics here thank you very much >>18723 i agree with anon, it's a bit worrying that half of the traffic on sharty is for /soy/ and /pol/\ there are flaws here, but in general it feels more diverse and more active as well
>>18725 So how's that better? If someone in power decides they hate me, they'll do the same thing 4chan mods did. >>18726 >i'll stick with the measurements and pics here thank you very much These can be posted anywhere. >it's a bit worrying that half of the traffic on sharty is for /soy/ and /pol/ We're talking about iemg specifically though, those two boards are irrelevant to us.
>>18727 >So how's that better? If someone in power decides they hate me, they'll do the same thing 4chan mods did. Given how cucked the 4c mods were after reading the leaks, anything's better than those tranny faggots.
>>18728 Of course, but I'm comparing 8chan to soyjack in regards to the poll. Trying to understand which one is objectively better, and right now I'm under the impression that we're being set up for 4chan 2.0 with 8chan. Could be wrong of course, although it just feels like people are biased with their voting.
>>18729 >Trying to understand which one is objectively better The only objective metric you should use is traffic. Whichever site has more people is better. Everything else is secondary or just doesn't matter at all.
>>18727 >These can be posted anywhere. but anons haven't posted them, i doubt most people will post in both threads at the same time >We're talking about iemg specifically though, those two boards are irrelevant to us. it was more to illustrate the fact that even if sharty had higher pph than 8c (it doesn't), a significant amount is dedicated to these two boards i don't know what the spread is like here, but i prefer having retards spam /v/ than /soy/ of all places >>18729 i doubt this is a permanent thing. either way sharty is limited by its manual approval system while 8c is prone to weird shit it's a game of compromise
>>18730 This thread was made 3 days ago and has 11 total posters. Everything else is not secondary at all, because if moderation is full of nigger trannies like in 4chan (hopefully it's not), we wont have shit. >>18731 >i doubt most people will post in both threads at the same time Exactly. I'm trying to figure out what's better and pick one. >but i prefer having retards spam /v/ than /soy/ of all places Not relevant to iemg. >manual approval system What's that?
>>18732 >This thread was made 3 days ago and has 11 total posters believe it or not, this is about average even back on 4c, we're just missing advice seekers since most posters here seem to be regulars anyways >Exactly. I'm trying to figure out what's better and pick one. look at the sharty thread and tell me what useful or interesting shit is coming out of there not much apart from the same shitposts we've seen before and headphone fags >Not relevant to iemg. site and board longevity is important if we stay here indefinitely >What's that? every image on sharty goes through manual approval by one of their mods not an immediate issue but it's in the same vein of concern as the moderation on 8c uids are a mixed bag, depends on if we want shitposts to be as prominent as before or not
>>18733 >this is about average even back on 4c Really not true. >we're just missing advice seekers They're in here, just not receiving replies. >look at the sharty thread and tell me what useful or interesting shit is coming out of there It's the same exact thread aside from charts guy who obviously wont bother making his posts twice. >site and board longevity So how are the mods on here? >every image on sharty goes through manual approval by one of their mods I thought it was AI.
>>18719 I agree with the kamala harris supporter
>>18734 >Really not true. eh it was around 40-60, if we take half as being advice seekers that aren't coming back, and remove a few anons lost during migration, the number of posters makes sense >They're in here, just not receiving replies. seems like most have >It's the same exact thread aside from charts guy who obviously wont bother making his posts twice. and that alone warrants using this place would have said the same for sharty if that anon posted there >So how are the mods on here? haha let's not talk about that >I thought it was AI. that's what i thought as well but apparently not >>18748
>>18751 >seems like most have I didn't. >and that alone warrants using this place Well if we choose sharty he'll come to sharty. >haha let's not talk about that Bro...
Actually now that I think about it, I'm curious as to which board Staxguy prefers, and as a third and best alternative I'd suggest the doushio imageboard.
>>18753 no way you're xduoo anon if so that's sad, pretty sure you haven't received any responses here or elsewhere lmao >Well if we choose sharty he'll come to sharty. well hopefully but at this point it seems like everyone is relatively split on the issue, and editor anon doesn't want to take a hard stance so we'll probably be stuck in this situation >Bro.. was joking, but i haven't heard any major issues. admittedly i wasn't all that active here but most problems i've heard about are at the site/board-level and history related rather than specific moderation fuck ups >>18757 probably sharty since it's also a /hpg/ thread if so i'm definitely sticking with this thread
>>18760 >no way you're xduoo anon Hey that's me. >if so i'm definitely sticking with this thread Why? He's based and an OC poster.
>>18761 don't take this to heart, but /hpg/ has been abysmal for the last year and more, and is just not useful in any way 712 and staxguy would have been tolerable if /hpg/ had anything of substance in it, but between the gaming headset advice the same shitposting, no wonder it fell through the gutter it isn't any different from headfi or reddit or youtube or forums or any other place, and the advantages of an imageboard are wasted when you consider the slow market and relatively high barrier of entry
>>18762 Well before I got banned on 4cuck I updated the OP to specifically tell people to go >>>/out/ with gaming garbage, but with 11 total posters it's best if we have a merged thread with Staxguy included. >it isn't any different from headfi or reddit or youtube or forums It is. Posting OC and saying nigger.
>>18764 >It is. Posting OC and saying nigger. that's a very low bar all that's left is just the usual imageboard banter which then begs the question: why even stick to /hpg/? /iemg/ benefits from the eq guide, a good mix of schizos and people that know their stuff, the gazette, and an extremely fast-paced market that suits ear dildo autists perfectly
>>18767 hpg benefits from all of those things just the same and as a matter of fact I use EQ on my headphones while I leave my IEMs as they are,
>>18770 /hpg/ doesn't have a dedicated gazette or eq guide, nor does it have anons that know their stuff (ie acoustics) or independent measurements
Ok enough bitching about where to move it doesn't matter. 4chud will be back in a few days surely.
>>18775 Why should we go back, even if it comes back? It's comfy here.
>>18774 The one from iemg works for hpg. There's no reason to split generals with a userbase of literally 11 people. >>18775 I'm perma banned on 4cuck so you guys should pick an alternative or you'll miss out on all of my amazing OC and I'll also be lonely.
>>18775 >who's telling xim >>18776 hopefully they take the time to update everything and actually have useful features, but knowing them they'll most likely be investing in more hrt >>18784 the difference comes down to effort and usefulness, which /iemg/ has a lot and is the primary reason why it managed to stay afloat /hpg/ suffocated on its own incompetence >you'll miss out on all of my amazing OC post oc NEOW
>>18786 I've been banned on 4cuck since November so I haven't made anything new but I used to post OC all the time. >which /iemg/ has a lot and is the primary reason why it managed to stay afloat That's kinda funny considering IEMs are cheaper, require cheaper hardware to run, and there's so much less variety compared to headphone technology. There should be way more material for discussion related to headphones.
>>18788 There's way more variety in iems. You got the standard headpos big 3 DD/planar/estat along with BA, piezo and MEMS. The only thing headpos has that pos don't are ribbons. Of course the thirdies here can't afford all that but that's a different issue.
>>18788 there should be, but it has been historically limited by people have the same talking points as reddit/headfi/etc. and not nearly enough technical knowledge and substance to counterbalance the shitposts/spam
>>18790 There's definitely less variety in IEMs. Headphones have closed, semi-open, open, over ear, different pads, head straps, dds, planars, estat, a billion different amps and DACs, etc, etc, etc. IEMs are good with a cheap portable dac/amp combo and you're done. >hihi but my custon shell with fox penis on it Nah with IEMs you don't need to spend more than $600 (on sale) and you're good with literally two pairs with two different kinds of tips. With headphones I can be autistic and get a 10 piece collection of different types in different price brackets and they'll all be significantly different and I can be further autistic by having different types of amps for them. IEMs are arguably the superior technology, but that's why they need less and have less actual variety. China just keeps shitting out new models all the time and reviewers are making shit up about how different they are. >>18791 Still no reason not to combine both threads like the OP in sharty did. We're a total of 20 people combined between both boards.
>>18792 >Nah with IEMs you don't need to spend more than $600 you could spend $20 and be done if you use eq >inb4 retards thinking money is a factor learn acoustics, you'll never reach perfection without eq >With headphones I can be autistic well this is the core of the differences between /hpg/ and /iemg/. the former is still clinging on to the hobby-aspect, the latter has for the most part adopted the optimal objective-based approach to sound quality, with a few anons still posting their impressions and such headphones in terms of eq and personalization are actually farther ahead than iems yet very few people seem to take advantage of that strength i hope you realize that there is no difference between having source pairings for iems and headphones. in fact i would argue that source pairings are even more important for iems
>>18794 >you could spend $20 and be done if you use eq This too. I was being generous because otherwise IEMs are a solved topic and there would be no reason to have a thread in the first place. At the minimum you wont get a good cable with a $20 pair. >well this is the core of the differences between /hpg/ and /iemg/ Either way, there's a million things to talk about with headphones, and combining the threads would give us one way more alive thread, especially since half of the topics intertwine. Doesn't matter anyways though because 4trannyniggercuck is gonna be back soon and all of you will go back and leave me.
>>18796 >Doesn't matter anyways though because 4trannyniggercuck is gonna be back soon and all of you will go back and leave me. ok cmon man you're making me sad now hopefully the bans get lost during their update and we can have a nice family reunion (impossible) in the end i don't really mind mixing both. it's still very early so we don't have a good judge on which im is better
>>18797 Even if the bans got wiped, they'll still ban me instantly. My OC is very easily distinguishable between the different boards I frequent, and I'm 100% certain they have my (static) IP written down. The perma ban itself was for a two month old post that I also didn't make. A faggot mod literally had it written down and searched it up to ban my static IP for that old post made by a mobile shitter. It's fully over for me. Before you leave me to die I just need opinions on the xDuoo TA-32 for IEMs specifically. I'm certain it would have noisy output with IEMs, not to mention sensitive ones, even on low gain. I already hear noise with my sliivo using my SMSL H300 on low gain (balanced output). I've heard upgrading the rectifier tube will eliminate that issue, but I've never had a tube amp before.
I want something anime but also not weebish so people think I’m weird. Looking for wired and good for J-pop
>>18798 totl/impressions anon here. there MAY be a ta-32 demo near me. i'll audition it on your behalf
>>18801 Like at some event? Do you have IEMs of different sensitivity using a balanced connection to test on low gain perhaps?
>>18798 very niche question so i'm not surprised you got no reply rectification with tubes i've only heard in guitar amp topics, not really for sound reproduction iirc it's mostly for compression and maybe additional distortion products, i haven't seen seen anything about reducing noise >>18799 get something with anime packaging (tanchjim, truthear, moondrop) or ball out and get custom epz faceplates >>18801 he's totlzo, he lives in singapoo near the hangout (crinacle's demo store) pretty reliable in terms of getting impressions of niche products so he can certainly help out, and the hangout has a ton of iems
>>18809 >i'm not surprised you got no reply That's because Staxchad isn't in here. He'd 100% know all the details. He has like 55 tube amps. >crinacle Lmao, I'm more of a Jay enjoyer, but I'll take any advice I can get.
>>18803 Not event. I live near a fuckton of audio shops, including an xduoo distributor so if I'm lucky I may be able to find a ta-32. >Do you have IEMs of different sensitivity using a balanced connection? Most of my totl shit are low-impedance, low-sensitivity. But I'm assuming (you)'re daily driving the sl41 mk2? So the closest equivalent in specs I have on hand is the salnotes zero. Alternatively you could list off commonplace chifi pos with similar specs, I may be able to find them at the shop as well. No Myer though.
>>18811 >sl41 mk2 Yeah those. Kinda butthurt I didn't wait for the CKLVX D62. Not that I knew they'd come out in like a month but yeah. This is one thing I don't like about IEMs as well, they just release ten thousand new ones per year. I'm also butthurt for Myer and don't know why you guys removed them from the rec list. Right now I'm debating between buying a pair of Studio4s or waiting for a new breakthrough Myer IEM in a slightly higher price bracket. The sliivos are very good though. >I live near a fuckton of audio shops That must be so lit. I live in a dead country where IEMs have zero hype and I have to really consider every single specific when ordering something so I don't fuck myself over.
>>18812 honestly i don't even know who is in charge of the rec list, or if they even post at all hell i think nobody knows, not even editor anon
>>18813 I can tell it's definitely been updated somewhat recently though.
>>18798 If measured at specified power, given SNR numbers imply noise level of 13.6 µVrms (unbalanced) and 12.3 µVrms (balanced) which would be bad (good devices have like <2 µVrms i.e. 16 dB quieter). Dunno about different tubes but doubt it makes a significant enough difference.
>>18812 kek, that explains why the sliivo posting suddenly stopped. i was wondering where sliivo anon went. >Kinda butthurt I didn't wait for the CKLVX D62 Don't be, the sl41 mk2 are a good buy. Better than the Vol S at least. >I live in a dead country No canjam or equivalent events?
>>18800 No one actually likes K-pop. They just like that the girls dress and dance like sluts
>>18815 Bad for IEMs or in general?
>>18816 >i was wondering where sliivo anon went Well there you have it. I was banned for no reason at all by a power tripping spiteful schizo 4cuck nigger tranny mod. >No canjam or equivalent events? Events? Lmao don't make me laugh. We have a store with "hi end" in the name that sells either literal garbage or overpriced memes.
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>my local """hi fi""" store's brand selection for IEMs LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>18817 k-pop is sovlless corposlop j-pop is kawaii sugoi ear candy >>18821 fwiw i was also banned like 7 times from posts other than mine, thankfully i have a dynamic ip so i'm good was also wondering where you were, funny to see you got locked out lmao >>18824 >has hi fi store lucky
>>17962 I just got mine. This cable is fucking great. Very good quality.
>>18818 IEMs are generally more sensitive which makes it more likely for noise to be actually audible, but it's not like similarly sensitive headphones don't exist at all.
Feels good that a couple of you remembered me still after all of these months even though I never used a trip or avatarfagged or attentionwhored. Just more proof that I'm right and the tranny mod was wrong and that 4cuck mods don't care about OC or post quality. Safe to say I had the last laugh. Bless you bros.
after years of hard work my KZ EDAs finally shat the bed so I'm looking for a replacement >must be comfortable, especially for sleeping on my side >below $40 that's it bonus points if they don't have crazy amounts of treble and/or they have good seal, regardless of their tips
>>18838 >must be comfortable, especially for sleeping on my side Lmao this used to be one of my main requirements when I was asking for recs a while ago. Our guy Jay made a IEM size website at iemfit.com. I haven't tried it yet, but it could be useful for you. You don't want a fat fuck shell that's for sure.
>>18838 >comfortable, especially for sleeping on my side >don't have crazy amounts of treble >have good seal you're asking for etymotic er2se / er2xr (personally, I would recommend er2se for sleeping, because I don't know if strong subbass disturbs sleep) In my experience, it is the most comfortable iem for sleeping on the side, because there is nothing sticking out of the ear. Also, there is no iem with better isolation. >below $40 nevermind, they're more expensive than $40, but they're worth it
>>18898 >eardildos for sleep insane rec
>>18899 What's your recommendation? What's the argument against etys? There are many people who sleep with earplugs. I haven't had anything better when it comes to comfort when lying on the side than these. Plus, the isolation makes it possible to sleep even if it's not quiet (e.g. in a plane), and the music can be set on a very low volume.
I came across this article while searching for eartips reviews >https://www.audioreviews.org/guide-to-iem-silicone-eartips/ how accurate do you think these scores are ? I'm looking for something to take the edge of the treble, dunu s&s seems like the go to for now.
>>18937 I don't know but dunu s&s are too fat for my ears and I personally swear by tangzu sancai tips.
>>18947 >too fat for my ears yeah I'm worried about that too >sancai tips sancai wide is also on my shortlist, seems like it increases bass by looking at the scores on that page.
>>18954 I think that's a meme. Eartips are for comfort.
>>18956 I want to believe thats true, and I agree that comfort should be the main concern, but there are just so many different tips with different shapes, and there is no way I will get to try all of them, so I ended up looking at these things.
>>18961 That's why I spent hours measuring the tips I had at the time with a caliper and researching/comparing online and theorycrafting by using my alien IQ to narrow it down to these few ones. Ended up buying divinus velvet, dunu s&s, dunu candy, tangzu sancai, and azla sednaearfit xelastec. Most of them can straight up go in the trash compared to the sancai. Obviously very subjective, but they're perfect for me. Velvet is praised for the material and feel, but the sancai is better. The s&s would be the best if it wasn't for their chode shape not being compatible with my earussy. They're supposed to form to your ear with time, but nah. Candy are just decent. The azla I assumed would be a combo between the s&s and the sancai. They have the alleged ear forming material and the conical shape, but they're still too fat. I had to get the smallest ones of each of these too. Wanted to get spinfits as well, because they're supposed to tilt and fit your ear the best, but they were out of stock. Now I'm convinced the texture and shape are the most important things for tips, with the sancai having the best texture and a shape that fits me. It looks like a brain, and I have a big one, so it all makes sense. Personally I don't trust these sound property ratings at all. That's what EQ is for either way. If a tip sounds godlike but is hurting my earussy I'm not wearing it.
no chuzo, no schitzo posting, no shilling, no real music, the fun is gone man
Literally dead.
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totl anon here. I was gonna wait for 4c to come back before posting my impressions, but since i gotta post my ta-32 impressions anyway i might as well post the whole lot.
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>>19079 (me) Still on the hunt for a good stack. >Hiby RS8 (no pic, forgot to do so) Compared to the DX340, the RS8 sounded less aggressive, less dynamic. Makes for a more relaxing listen. The R2R meme of being more “musical” than delta sigma fits the description of the RS8 perfectly. I’d love to snag a used RS8 for use as a beater pmp. >Cayin IDAC-8 and IHA-8 Neutral leaning on warmth. Pairs well with Storm & Nautilus. But Duality’s bass sounded pillowy. Similar in timbre to the FiiO Q15 whilst the FiiO K17 sounded more sterile in comparison. A/Bing with the DX340, the Cayin stack has a minor metallic sheen to the treble. Good generalist stack. >Questyle CMA18 Master Stereotypical “ESS” sound – bright and lean, but in a harsh rather than resolving kind of way. The initial transient is piercing and masks finer details in the resonance/decay. Bass quantity is also stunted and hurts dynamism. Not good. >Mass Kobo 465 (+ CMA18 in DAC mode) Similar warm-ish timbre as the Mass Kobo 433. Fuller sounding than the Cayin stack. The 465 is the perfect pairing for the Storm – lush sounding midrange with beautifully extended treble. In comparison, the Holo Bliss is more dynamic and the Duality pairs better with the Bliss, but it’s also the more fatiguing listen. Thus far the 465 is one of the best amps I’ve ever heard – it is reference-sounding in an organic manner but never sounding dry/clinical. Also bearing in mind I’m using the CMA18 as the DAC, so the amp portion of the CMA18 has got to be utterly dogshit to account for such a night-and-day difference.
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>>19080 (me) >>18798 >xDuoo TA32 Warm, thick, treble roll-off. Doesn’t handle treble transients well. Sounds good on bright neutral pos like the Salnotes Zero 1 but I probably wouldn’t pair this with bassy sets like the SL41 MK2. There are IEMs with better “tube-like” coloration like the Softears Twilight and Kinera Thorking so I don’t see the value in this brick. Even amongst tube amps I’ve heard better – Luxury Precision EA4, Cayin IHA-8, Cayin C9 II, etc. But I digress. TA32 sounds fairly competent at running IEMs, even designed to do so. I didn’t hear any noise on the Storm and Salnotes Zero on both low and high gain. Some slight distortion/noise on my Duality which I could only discern on select tracks. If you’re using typical chifi pos with specs more aligned with the Salnotes I wouldn’t worry. >Aune S9C Pro BT Similar chifi tonality like the FiiO K17, albeit with better bass control on the Duality – bass sounds tighter and more controlled than on the K17. But timbre is dryer than the FiiO. Poor separation of treble, crispy-sounding, a lack of proper decay. >Tangzu Wan'er 2 Bright neutral. No sibilance. Similar in tonality to the Salnotes Zero but with a slight emphasis towards female vocals. Low-end is weak and thin so it’s no good for classical or male vocals but it does weebshit well. Good pos, I’d pick the Waner 2 over the Gate and Bunny any day. 9/10. >EPZ Q1 Pro Egregious Harman timbre, tranny tuck is really bad on this pos. More midbass presence than the Waner 2 but the bass quality just isn’t that good. I’d rather ditch the bass and get the Salnotes Zero 1/Waner 2 which sounds cleaner overall. Compared to the SM4 and Nova, the EPZ Q1 Pro is severely lacking in air. 5/10.
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>>19082 (me) >Ziigaat Lush I can see why it’s called Lush. Warm neutral. Sounds like SL41 MK2 with less bass emphasis. Midbass bloat causes the Lush to sound muddy, and the lack of air hurts instrumentals. Poorly tuned set, if Ziigaat actually wanted it to sound Lush they need to boost the lower midrange kinda like the Twilight or Symphonium Meteor. Decent male and female vocals though. 6/10. >7hz Five Meme pos. Bassy yet thin-sounding because of the massive cavern in the uppermids. Also because of my resonance peak the treble timbre of the 7hz Five is really fucked. Even the bass texture is not that good despite having 5 DDs. Bass is shit, midrange is shit, treble is shit. Congratulations 7hz, you’ve outdone yourself. 0/10. >Yanyin Canon Pro There’s tuning switches, but the overall tonality is neutral (leaning towards bright) and bass-lite, similar to the Moondrop Meteor/Cadenza 4. Very airy with extended treble, plus an early pinna gain for female poison. Up-Up config gives some midbass presence which I did not care for – it’s not controlled and smears into the lower mids. Down-down config clears up the midbass bloat and makes the overall tonality cleaner. Surprisingly good for classical despite the lack of low-end due to Canon Pro’s early pinna giving string quartets that liveliness and energy. There’s good uppermids energy but the Canon Pro doesn’t sound as shouty as stock Harman sets. Overall, a good neutral set, albeit slightly overpriced in today’s market. 8/10. >Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite Neutral tuning, similar to the Canon Pro. Compared to the Yanyin, the Orchestra Lite has a distinct lack of subbass, but midbass is good – it’s tight and controlled, unlike the Canon Pro’s Up-Up config. The boosted midbass helps the Kiwi Ears sound less shouty and more dynamic than the Yanyin despite having similar squigs. The treble air on the Orchestra Lite is just as good as the Yanyin. A competently tuned neutral set that has aged well and still remains relevant. 9/10.
>>19083 anon do you hate me or something, you could have posted all of this under one post
>>19083 >orchlite 9/10 lol, lmao even its mid as fuck, weird treble spikes, no bass
>>19096 i forgor you can post multiple pics at once and stuck to 4mb out of habit >>19097 >weird treble spikes thats entirely dependent on your HRTF, plus you can remedy that with tiprolling. i used spinfit neo. >no bass yes i mentioned that, but it works for the tuning kiwiears is going for. plus they didnt fuck it up like yanyin did so maybe the immediate contrast made me overrate the orchestra lite. but still the orclite werks and beats most of the new pos on the market
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>>19099 >muh HRTF ultimate stormdrainer cope
>>19080 >>19082 >>19083 thanks so much anon!
>>19082 xDuoo TA32 bros we got cooked...
>>20186 Although anon is comparing it to amps that cost 2-3 times more. You can also upgrade the tubes, so I really wonder how close it would get. I mean I could really spend the money on a Cayin combo, but I just don't see the reason to.
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>Budget 100 USD >Intended use (media, source, environment) Media >Frequency response preference and music examples None, I listen to video game osts and occasionally some hard rock >Past gear and your thoughts on them 7hz timeless, they broke in half after a couple months. Would like something that doesnt do that.
>>20191 Unless you're deadset on tubes I would just get the FiiO K17 - it has a fuckton of features whilst being similar in performance to the Cayin stack (though the IHA8 amp has way more power). >>20219 Wan'er 2. But if you're willing to wait for sales: Topping Hane. Also worth mentioning the Kotori Dauntless - neutral, bass-lite tuning for vidya OSTs. Probably doesn't suit hard rock tho.
>>20281 I'm not deadset on tubes but I'm deadset on never buying fiio ever again and it's extra features are bait and bloat I'd never use. Could look towards the Aune S9C Pro, but that's not that big of an upgrade from my SMSL D6S and SMSL H300 combo I don't think. Another option is to get for example a Laiv Harmony uDAC, becuase it's allegedly goated, it looks good, and it has all the features I want, but then I'm not sure what non overpriced amp to pair that with. That plus a Cayin iHA-8 for example gets too expensive and their aesthetics don't match either.
I wonder if Laiv are secretly working on a cheaper and smaller headphone amp to possibly create the best combo under 2k.
>>20288 >Laiv Harmony uDAC I heard the uDAC + HP2A stack during Canjam and I'd caution against it. Laiv leans right into the R2R meme of being "warm" and "musical". Unless that's your preference there are more transparent-sounding R2R dacs like the Holo Cyan 2. The Harmony uDAC is so audibly warm that no amount of amp rolling is going to cancel that coloration. >That plus a Cayin iHA-8 for example gets too expensive If you're looking at the kilobuck range the Topping DX9 is quite decent.
>>20298 >Topping I'd rather kms. >Holo Cyan 2 >1400 eurocucks >no buttons Hard pass. I'll just wait a couple of months and see if anything new comes out or if I'll grow out of the desire to upgrade. Otherwise I'll just yolo buy the TA32 and maybe play with some tuberolling.
"upgrading" sources has to be the most masochistic approach to the hobby so retarded it loops back to being based
>>20301 You used the wrong word, but keep in mind upgrading for me also means my bud gets my old stuff so he can enjoy it too.
you picked up a Nova when it was $80 right?
>>20307 No because aesthetics are 50% of an IEM, that these ones are ugly.
>>20311 there's no such thing as a good looking IEM
>>20312 CKLVX, Studio4, etc.
>>20312 fox pos
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>>20311 >>20312 symphonium's next pos has some nice lookin faceplates
>>20327 looks stupid
>>20328 post your pos
>>20329 I use the Novas they don't look great but no IEM looks good
>>20330 tanchjim origin
>>20327 This looks quite gay and niggerish.
>>20331 >1DD may as well get the BLACKED pos
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>>20330 >deaf AND blind
What are some other iems with transparent faceplate, where you can see the internals (especially the driver) from the outside, other than the Gates?
>>19082 >Good pos, I’d pick the Waner 2 over the Gate and Bunny any day. 9/10. Agreed. I own all three. Waner2 is the best of the three.
Can pick up the Wan'er 2 for dirt cheap ($12) Is it even worth getting it purely for measurements? Feels like it's only a very slightly tweaked Wan'er.
>>20416 >Is it even worth getting it purely for measurements? Feels like it's only a very slightly tweaked Wan'er. It's the best bang-per-buck IEM of the year so far. And the eartips are 10/10 and cost $12+ on their own. And they sound really, really good. It's a fucking no-brainer.
>>20421 This is not a matter of it being good performance wise, I'm asking if it is worth getting it just to do measurements, or if it's similar enough to the Wan'er to just ignore it. I'm sure it's a great package but I have enough stuff in my backlog to review so I want to keep my purchases to stuff that is of use.
>>20422 >I'm asking if it is worth getting it just to do measurements How the fuck can you answer this objectively? It totally depends on you and what you want to do with the measurements. All measurements are available online anyway for free.
>>20416 you're getting the sancai tips too, so why not
>>20423 The measurements I only do so I can post them here (mainly insertion depth and distortion as those are the rarest). If the Wan'er is mostly the same, which is looks like it, then I'll probably skip on the Wan'er 2. >>20425 I have 5 pairs of the size I use, and also the narrow bore version (which does a lot of weird stuff in the treble, might be fun to show in the future)
>>20426 >If the Wan'er is mostly the same But it's not .
>>20427 Which brings me back to my point of deciding whether or not it's even worth getting it and taking the measurements and posting the results or not. I think I'll just wait for 5128 measurements to pop up and if there's something significant worth looking over, I'll get it then.
>>20429 I never regretted buying a single Tangzu/Tanchjim or a Simgot set.
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>case maker says his leather is too good to be used on my dx340 what the fuck
Tanchjim One non-dsp (analog cable) - any good?
4c, which is a shorthand for 4cesspit, was a travesty, abomination and a fucking disaster - thoroughly cucked website with dumb tranny jannies and ancient engine, I mean yotsuba was outdated and pre-obsoleted by other engines back in the 00s, while even small chans ran by one jobless bum had much much more features like live updates without refresh, Aleph engine here shows that it's possible and plausible to implement even in big websites anyway, /iemg/ is now divided and should be united to some point - what we don't need is to go back to 4cesspit, but what we do need is to have one general to post about pos, along with schizos to make our day better, except maybe deafzo, saintfag or other insufferable retards who might as well have their own /iemg/ spin somewhere else - imagine a whole general dedicated to posting about edc pro or og cca cra being TOTL, minimum phase and enough for everyone with occassional thiefaudio ltd shilling what I personally hope for however is for the old breadzo to return to what turns out the proper successor of the old /iemg/, be it here or somewhere else, and stop the retardation that started back on 4c a few months ago
>>20327 Look nice but I'd love it if more brands made simple and subtle designs and not make them stand out so much. You look like a fag flexing pendants with these on. Sadly chinks love shiny shit.
>>20523 Hexa looks good. Scandinavian style minimalism is the way to go.
>>20336 Tanch Kara
>>20429 We need more measurements with triple flange tips.
>>20514 4cuck is definitely unusable but we need more than 19 posters somehow.
>>20525 >Hexa looks good it's not comfortable though.
The xduoo ta32 looks better and better each day
>>20514 >/iemg/ is now divided and should be united to some point afaik its only here and sharty, and sharty is dead so i think most regulars are checking here >old breadzo doesn't really matter, nobody even reads the op >>20557 24 uids is actually decent at the peak of iemg activity we were nearing maybe 70-80 uids, so 25 is to be expected when the hobby is slowing down due to tariffs, when there are less thirdies seeking advice on budget pos, and when most 4c posters dont bother checking altchans
>>20734 We're at 19 though bud and the thread is quite dead. I'm leading half of the discussion almost. There wasn't a single post made after I went to bed last night.
>>20737 >the thread is quite dead I'm always here. I just curb my blogposts to a minimum so that the thread isn't just me attentionfagging.
>>20743 In my opinion people should blogpost and shitpost and even off topic post here and there if the thread is so dead. Even if a post is only 10% on topic it will still spark a discussion. There's nothing wrong with blogging as well. Even a post like "listening to x on my z" is great.
>>20737 i see 24, and either way its dead because shitposters and schizos cant put effort into migrating to another board, they are already using 98% of their brain power just to type out their repetitive posts and attach the same image over and over
>>20750 Actually let me test songposting. I'm listening to this on my sliivo right now.
>>20759 Pretty cool that you can upload music files. That shit took 10 minutes though.
>>20761 And it also stutters when trying to play it back. What a waste of a feature.
>>20759 >>20762 loads fine for me on another note, seems like 4c will be back some time soon as their api seems to be back and they left a "see you soon" message. sorry banned anon, but we will probably be going back. hopefully you can get in but who knows enjoy being alone forever!
>>20778 I'm never posting on 4cuck, regardless if I get unbanned, which I wont. >enjoy being alone forever! Thanks for the curse...
>>20436 I second this. I have the same experience with these companies. Aful is also not bad.
>>20786 >>20436 Myer is the goat.
I hope you guys at least keep my legacy alive by mentioning me every once in a while on 4cuck after you leave me for dead...
>>20788 nigga ask gazettezo to include you in an obituary or something idk
>>20788 just ban evade holy shit its not that hard
>>20794 Static IP plus fingerprinting plus I'm too unique plus fuick 4chan niggers. >>20793 I'm already in there with some of my contributions. You just don't know which posts are mine, because I'm not an attentionwhore.
>>20799 >I'm already in there well not anymore lmao idk i feel like you could just message him and he can relay whatever the fuck you want to say
>>20808 Wachu mean isn't the gazette eternal with all historical entries?
>>20809 yeah i meant not anymore as in you wont be getting any other inclusions anyways heres my track, took like 2 seconds to upload
>>20811 Can't even load past the first two seconds fuck this chan and also my legacy is cemented. He could include my last farewell if he'd like once 4cuck is up and you guys can consider me forever dead.
>>20813 >Can't even load past the first two seconds werks on my machine
>>20813 anon, you're a thirdie aren't you...
should i buy a pair of cadenzas and gift my mom a pair of chu2s actually is there anything like the chu2s but without the metal shell so the filters dont clog up with the humidity in my area dont know what else to add so heres a random pic of my lastfm log of today
Completely forgot about that SMABAT earbud/IEM hybrid, will probably redeem next.
Sorry to be off topic but there is no headphones general at the moment, is a Hifiman Sundara a good pick for budget headphones or should I just bite the bullet and buy something expensive
>>20788 maybe they wipe all bans when the board come back.
Tanchjim Origin is still one of my most used sets ever, which I didn't expect even when I finished my review considering the bass, but man it's hitting the spot.
>>20848 we only discuss the best earussy raping shiny chink petroleum tinnitus garbage for 15 bucks in here, fuck off
>>20853 Salty beta brown tranny homo 4chan moddies would never do that. >>20829 Kind of. Not entirely.
>>20848 Personally I wouldn't buy anything chinkifiman. I'd spend more for a pair of Sash Tres or wait for the new Verum.
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I really like our guy Jay's video formats with this tournament bracket shit. Do you guys agree with his rankings? I haven't even tried half of these but his way of explaining his opinions always makes sense to me.
It's over you guys are gonna leave me now...
>>18798 I have around 3000 bans on 4chan, just evade nigga. I'm posting from 5 different subnets.
>>21112 Guess I gotta mention for the millionth time that I can't ban evade, because I'm on a static IP, and either way I don't want to waste my life and energy evading and censoring myself on a nigger imageboard ran by niggered niggers that don't care about thread quality at all and don't mind shutting down OC because they lost an argument and their personal feelings got hurt. I love chatting with you guys in /iemg/ and /hpg/ but it's not like I NEED it. As usual, I will do everything on my own. I always do my own research. I always find my own IEMs/headphones and accessories. Some things never change. Would be cool if I were able to share my findings with all of you, but you can't change faith. Gazette anon didn't even mention me in the new thread. I will bair this pain on my own. Forever and ever alone.
>>20848 I haven't found any good headphones in any budget, I was only able to salvage some headphones after realizing 1.5k-3k range heavily depends on the fit. Don't buy if you can't demo, if you can demo try different pad positions and learn how to consistently get those positions, give openbacks a fair chance by having a bass shelf EQ at hand. Proceed at your own risk.
idk this thread was kind of cozy, i might stick around here
>>21137 i wish we could see UIDs on 4c, feels like the tourists are back
>>21139 iirc the last time we could see unique posters it was around 50 by the end of the thread
>>20416 how? where? on aliexpress they are 20$ and I cant find another place.
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Fuck 4chan. Truthear Hexa, triple flange tips, eq, posting in a dead /iemg/, and just kick back and enjoy the music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l61-xQRkAwn7ZmwwBDeGuCxnofeHFrNzw
odds: order xduoo ta-32 right now evens: don't 0: die in my sleep tonight
>>21239 post receipts NOW
>>21243 Waiting for stock. They're on pre-order at my preferred store.
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>half the 4c thread wasted just screeching about simgot
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Thinking of giving my old gear to my friend and getting an xDuoo TA-32 for my DAC and headphone amp and maybe rolling the tubes, a 3E Audio A5 stereo speaker amp with Virtual HIFI Supersonic v2 opamps, and a Fosi Box X5 for my phono preamp. In that order and not at once, so if anything better comes out I could rethink, although: xDuoo TA-32 >interested in the rohm dac >interested in tubes and they can be upgraded >no I2S but has AES, so I can pair it with an SMSL PL200T CD transport if I really decide I want to waste money on one >can act as a preamp although no with volume control out of the XLR output, so I'm not looking at mono speaker amps, or amps with no volume control >display and menu kinda gay although it doesn't have bloat, chink viruses, and apps that are broken like the FiiO KA17, which also doesn't have the superior digital input of AES 3E Audio A5 stereo speaker amp >powerful enough for my Elac Debut b5.2 >allegedly the best value compared to everything else for the price >TPA3251 is allegedly better than TPA3255 >has volume control to compensate for the xDuoo >automatic on/off feature when detecting input, although the TA-32's outputs are constantly live, but can solve that with my douk switcher >quite ugly but it's ok I guess Fosi Box X5 >idk it measures good and not too pricey And in the meantime I can look for new IEMs in the $300-500 range and I'm sure they'll release like 5 in the next few months.
>>21313 i mean shit i never realized how much of a useless fuck fest it was, i'll definitely be posting more here since it's way cozier
>>21326 The XDuoo has audible coloration, so having it as the sole amp/dac in your collection seems dubious. I'd imagine that your sliivo is going to sound incredibly muddy on that tube amp.
>>21335 are there measurements of the sliivo with impedance adapters? feel like that will probably be a big factor
>>21336 doubtful that you can impedance graphs for the sl41, but from online anecdotes apparently the sliivo becomes more bassy
>>21339 find*
>>21335 I don't use IEMs at home unless I've just washed my hair though. I use my Sash Tres SE planar headphones mostly nowadays. Looking to buy a couple of more IEMs down the line so do you think I'd benefit from a separate amp just for them eventually? I can't imagine needing an expensive one for IEMs and if I want to listen to an earussy pos I could just use the xDuoo as a DAC. Otherwise I'm not seeing what good DAC/AMP combo to upgrade to. K17 sounds good on paper but I don't like FiiO and their shitty intrusive software and drivers. A Cayin stack gets too expensive and it's also white. Could get an SMSL RAW-DAC1 for example (non pro because white), but then what amp would I get to pair with that?
Damn, Studio4s are 3D printed, don't have pressure vents, and only come with a 3.5mm cable.
>>21450 studio4 in 2025 is beyond comprehension when the p50 exists
>>21452 I only see those for sale on alishitxpress, which I refuse to buy from, and they're also ugly as fuck. Reminder that aesthetics are 50% of the IEM experience. I'd never put these uglies inside of my earussy. By the time I get tired of my current IEMs they'll 100% release a new and amazing one that will tick all the boxes anyways.
>>21453 >which I refuse to buy from why? > they're also ugly as fuck pay an additional $30 and you can customize the faceplate with whatever you like and choose your shell color/transparency
>>21459 >why? Ass. Slow shipping. Difficulties with customs and taxes. Personal information safety. Debit card info hacked.
>>21462 agreed on all of that but alix sells things at consistently lower price than other retailers (like at minimum 20% less) >Debit card info hacked. ok that's bad but man are you really buying shit online with a debit card??
>>21466 What else am I gonna buy with?
>>21468 oh i don't know a credit card? or at least using the debit card through a service like paypal? rawdogging the online world with a debit card is actually insane
>>21471 Prepare for a rant, but we don't use credit cards over here plus paypal is nigger garbage. I got scammed by a british auto parts company once, and paypal took their side, because the retardedass bitch working the support ticket was a literal fucking braindead NPC retard that knew nothing about cars, and they edited the product description before I was able to waybackmachine it. They also made it nearly impossible to cancel your gaypal account some years ago. I had to threaten them with legal action for them to delete my account and all my data. These niggers keep your data such as your name and email, and if you want to issue any payment to an online store that uses them as their payment provider, and you have or had a account in the past, they immediately know and won't let you pay without logging in. That prevented me from using a lot of online stores, because my gaypal account was also randomly automatically put on hold by their retarded AI, because they needed me to verify it was me, despite me having used the account for years with no issues. In order to do that you have to provide pictures of an ID document with all of your personal details exposed, despite them claiming they only need your name and DOB. Blacking out the irrelevant data breaks their nigger AI, and contacting support is nearly impossible. When I finally got in contact with some pajeet, he insisted I was obliged to give them all my details by quoting some wall of text EU regulation. Upon reading it, not only was it fucking expired, but it was never approved in the first place. They deliberately lie to you and expect you to be a retarded NPC that will fall for it. Told the retard that that shit isn't in action and is from like 5 years ago and that I'm contacting a lawyer if he doesn't delete my account and data, and then all of a sudden it wasn't an issue. >rawdogging the online world with a debit card is actually insane It's not. My bank has a lot of security measures in place and chinkiggers can't do much with just my CVC number. Normal online stores that aren't fucking alichinkpress also have actual payment provider security. In general, I'm not buying anything directly from ch*na either way. That's why you look for distributors, and if some pos isn't sold outside of aliexpress, well I'm not fucking buying it. There's hundreds of other IEMs to choose from.
>>21482 This is also why I refuse to buy FiiO garbage. The app for my KA15 doesn't fucking work unless you give it a shit ton of random permissions like bluetooth, wifi, nearby device tracking, and whatever else. Why the fuck does that app need all of that to function? It didn't function with the permissions either way. The KA15 wasn't on the list in the app months after it's release, and the EQ presets wouldn't even save. Their online PEQ webpage that's supposed to be an alternative didn't work for months either, and I highly doubt it works even today. My FiiO K3, which was my first dac/amp years ago also constantly had driver issues. Same reason I'm not buying the K17, despite the good aesthetics and overall design with the knobs and switches.
Zeos' fat gay redditor ass has also never said why he does this, but I've noticed how he never connects certain chinese products via USB to his PC. He always uses his motherboard's optical output, even though it's widely known that USB is superior. Gee, I really wonder why. In his K17 review he straight up said he's not going to get into their app.
>>21482 I also do not buy from aliexpress, because all payment options are shit. That's unfortunate, as I can't get my hands on the Jcally JM20, and also the deep-insertion iems from Yu-9 that I haven't seen anywhere else.
>>21487 The jcally is on hifigo, which is almost as shit, but for now I've decided it's passable. Not sure how secure buying from there is, but they somehow handle all of the tedious customs and tax garbage related to my EU shithole country, so that makes it a lot more convenient for me. In my case they also don't use UPS and don't get me started on fucking UPS.
>>21487 which yu9 are you looking at? im thinking of getting the fish or the u554
>>21490 This one looks very interesting to me: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005632489271.html I really like my etymotic er2se, but I don't like that it has a proprietary cable. And the YU9 is the only etymotic copy that I have heard of.
>>21491 WHAT ARE THOOOOSEEEE
This guy (https://www.pragmaticaudio.com/iems/?share=Thruthear_Gate) has multiple measurements of the Truthear Gate, one of them called "Gate Triple Flange". I want to see this so much, but unfortunately there is an error message when trying to select it.
>>21492 They are supposed to be used with triple flange tips and inserted deep into the ear.
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>>21493 I get an error too, then get this result by clicking all of them back and forth. Not sure if it's accurate though, because the curve kinda looks the same as the first one. >>21495 I don't think you should be inserting things that deep into your ear canal.
>>21491 ah same, they look really nice and apparently some other anon said the cable it comes with is very good i already have some modded filters and an aftermarket cable for my 2xr but im looking for alternatives since sourcing etymotic parts is getting very difficult >>21495 it's meant to be like that, extremely good isolation and it fixes some issues with other iems
>>21496 >I get an error too Okay so it's not my browser. I will check it later. >I don't think you should be inserting things that deep into your ear canal. I think you should, considering the effects of deep-insertion on the sound. Those animated measurements by this anon (>>18568) kind of show how the sound changes.
>>21498 Anon do you know how hearing itself works and if you fuck your ear you're gonna make it worse?
>>21499 I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Btw I'm this anon (>>18501) and use the iem from picrel right now. If you're afraid of hurting the eardrum, then this is not an issue at all since these tips are still far away from it, even if you push.
>>21388 >Separate amp for IEMs Honestly the FiiO K11 (non-r2r) will have no issues driving all IEMs with the exception of meme boutique pos. If you want a more powerful, low SNR amp for some other reason then get the Singxer SA1 V2 (it's black too). The Singxer is more transparent-sounding than the xDuoo so now you have 2 different flavored amps to choose from. Again, you don't need an expensive amp for IEMs. In fact the Topping DX1 was my IEM daily driver for a good part of the year. The only reason I'm auditioning TOTL amps is because Subtonic/Nightjar/Symphonium intentionally design their pos to be hard to drive so they can better scale with headphone amps and from my anecdotal experience it does sound better.
>>21504 >FiiO K11 No. >Singxer SA1 V2 Should have bought this instead of the SMSL H300 but back then I didn't want to spend that much. I like the toggle switches, they're so comfy to use. If I'm getting the TA-32 though I think I'd spend that extra money on tube upgrades instead. Surely tube rolling is not a scam. >Subtonic/Nightjar/Symphonium Man those prices are cracked. I feel like diminishing returns territory with IEMs starts around the $600 mark. How much better can they really get? It's just an IEM.
>>21507 Forgot to upload the cracked song to go with my post.
>>21513 man i dont want to be rude but we all have shit music taste wtf
>>21517 My music taste is impeccable though.
I don't judge the music, but I would expect people who value sound quality and spend serious money on (and spend time discussing) audio equipment would listen to better recordings. Right now, I listen to this: https://youtu.be/p636Rw_L3XU
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It's just a shitty amateur recording, but sounds much better than these two examples.
I would expect people who pretend they know music to know the difference between something recorded in the 80s and something recorded much later and with much less going on in the recording and for them to not listen to music on fucking youtube.
bunch of pussy ass hoes hop on Real Music https://soundcloud.com/zukenee/sets/guillotine
If it wasn't made with real music instruments it's not real music.
>>21526 And to be more specific >recorded 2-3 decades later >"shitty amateur recording" but still using expensive professional equipment >only 3 instruments >only 3 instruments that are also just acoustic >no effects >no drums >no vocals
>>21507 >I think I'd spend that extra money on tube upgrades instead. Seems like you've made up your mind then. I know nothing about tube rolling so do share your impressions. >diminishing returns In this hobby "diminishing returns" is just a euphemism for how much you can afford to spend. Some IEMs just don't have a cheaper chifi alternative. I find that chinks have an extremely hard time getting budget pos to sound warm & smooth without introducing mud (zero:red is a great example), and so you have to move up to the $400~600 bracket for competently tuned warmfi - like the Artpical Lucifer & Symphonium Meteor. Though I do think chinks have 'solved' the U-shape sound signature. I've tried summit U-shape pos like the Forte Ears Macbeth and Hercules Moses, and Thieaudio/Ziigaat pos like the Hype4 and Estrella come eerily close to that level of sound quality. That's a real case where diminishing returns exist. >How much better can they really get? Summit pos can be subjectively better. Firstly, treble is hard to get right. Most chink pos have this 'chifi' glare when it comes to the timbre of uppermids/treble. Newfags don't know how smooth treble can get until they've heard pos like the Palavox Akasha/Volk Etoile. Or how extended treble can really get, like on the Traillii/Helios/Annihilator. Secondly, while expensive ≠ better, but it does mean that manufacturers are more willing to experiment with less-marketable tunings which might perfectly suit your preference target - the Nightjar Duality is outrageously bassy and surely unpalatable for most people, but it's such a hilarious listening experience that I'm willing to pay the $3000 for it.
>>21537 Are there even non-chifi IEMs in the 400-600 range that are worth buying?
>>21540 nta but it depends i guess? like most iems in that price range, and also those above all up to summit fi i feel have a great experience around them, from contacting the boutique to the ordering process to the small handwritten notes and shit but objectively, in terms of audio performance? not really, they mostly source the same drivers and factories to manufacture their iems. very few companies are actually developing and manufacturing their own drivers in house, that's just the reality of the iem business >non-chifi didn't read that part until now but maybe? sennheiser stuff is solid if you like their sound, same thing with a few final audio pos
>>21540 Apart from Lucifer and Symph Meteor? Not really. Maybe Kotori Dauntless and Zephyr for the sub-$200 range. Boutique stuff is rare enough as it is, much less budget boutique stuff that sounds good.
Anyone tried both the I3 MK3 and Orchestra lite? Can get them both for the same price of around $125 but I'm hesitating between the analytical style of the I3 vs the neutral warmihs sound of the OL
>>21702 I've heard the Kiwi ears but not the I3. There's an anon collecting purple pos on 4c who owns the i3, you could try asking there as well.
>>21703 Yeah but it's kind of a mess over there if you haven't checked. On another note, made the new bread in honor of Sliivozo, enjoy
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Uhh guys?
>>21893 At least wait for sales anon, clearly you're not in urgent need of an amp. Also I think the XD05T looks cooler.
>>21896 Aren't sales in June? I never see hifigo have sales on expensive items anyways.
>>21897 >on the fence for 2 weeks >can't wait another month alright you know what just do it
>>21893 worth ze tube warmf!
>>21898 I was on the fence for longer, but this is also on a 1 month preorder. I'm waiting regardless and I just know the sale will either be minuscule, or it wont even be in stock. >>21904 Don't make fun of me.
Not sure if I regret my xduoo ta-32 preorder considering tubes are consumables and will probably last 2-3 years while degrading in quality.
>>22140 anon stop flip flopping like a lil bitch get that shit and THEN complain/regret, it's way funnier that way
>>22140 clearly you're not built for this, how about you just return back to your shitty SMSL stack with your tail behind your legs
>>22147 >>22150 Sounds to me like you wanna fight irl. What's up then?
I thought about buying IEM until I saw someone wearing some in the subway. It looked strangely bulky and made the guy look mighty retarded.
>>22170 >caring about what strangers think low test mindset, truth is nobody gives enough of a fuck to look at (you) to see what you're wearing
>>22172 I bet you'd look at me, fagget.
>>22170 You don't have long hair that would cover the IEM, baldy?
>>22175 I'm no hippie, no.
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super comfy thread. meanwhile, I eq my hexa to jm-1 df, and put on triple flange tips. The deep insertion elevates everything below 3 kHz (as seen here: >>18568), and they remove these nasty treble peaks.
>>22181 >EQing to raw DF sweet mother of jesus...
>>22170 then get something that isn't bulky?
>>22181 Yes, but because of the deep insertion, this is not the FR at the ear-drum.
>>22188 meant for >>22185
>>22186 I'm open to suggestions. Is the Tanchjim ONE DSP really that good? Why does it have a USB C connector instead of a 3.5mm jack. Hell, I'd even settle for a lightning connector.
>>22246 it's fine, the value is in the EQ. it's decent but the cable is pretty meh. or you can just get the 3.5mm version, i doubt the differences in your case will be noticeable. idk something like the chu2 or bunny are small enough and don't really protrude out and are relatively sleek enough imo to not be a major retard flag as well, they are worn over ear so the fit is more secure and stuff
>>22249 Will look into those, thanks.
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Blogpost on my desktop stack conundrum. I have been searching for an amp that can drive my Duality/Storm for a while now, and it's frankly disappointing how many summit-fi amps are simply ill-equipped to handle low-impedance, low-sensitive iems. Subtonic/Symphonium/Nightjar iems are designed to suck current like no other, but there aren't many amps out there designed to handle that load - most of em either enter oc protection or start distorting. Prime example being the Ferrum Oor - widely-accepted to able to drive the Susvara, but it clearly wasn't engineered to handle the same 80db sensitivity at 2 ohms, that shit-brick made the Duality sound like the Zero:Red. The Duality when appropriately driven has this really deep visceral subbass which you can feel right down to your bones, and so far the only 2 amps which have given me this sensation are the Holo Bliss and Benchmark AHB2. I guess it's no surprise that it takes a speaker amp to drive the Duality since that's speaker impedance territory. So following this train of thought I'd like to find a demo for the Enleum AMP-23R which can allegedly do 45W @ 4 ohms. Also interestingly today Zahl announced a new cut-down version of their HM1 amp, the Zahl H1. It's priced relatively cheaper at $8000 and allegedly "sounds the same as the HM1" according to Goldensound so now I'm mildly interested. The Zahl amp is supposedly another "current monster" like the Holo Bliss so fingers crossed the Zahl doesn't shit its proverbial pants like the Cen.Grand or Ferrum amp when I plug 2 ohms inside it. If all else fails, the Holo May + Bliss stack is going to be my default pick but I'm not a fan of how the Storm sounds on the Bliss - it's too dynamic and 'slammy' which is ill-suited for emotional tracks. Other Storm/Holo owner recommended that I get the Mass-Kobo 465/485 as a 'secondary' amp to complement the Bliss but I've yet to lose my marbles to that extent.
>>22258 >tfw I was gonna tell you about the Zahl but you already knew about it Can never get my moment of shine. The Zahl has the input switch and the gain switch on the back though. Kinda gay.
>>22317 I only use XLR and IEMs (lo-gain) so minor inconveniences at worst. Plus the stereo & feedback knobs are cool. Also I'm kinda retarded and just learnt that the Enleum is SE and only accepts 6.35mm termination (why the fuck would the gooks do that) so that option is off the table.
They shipped my xDuoo TA-32 today!
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>>22428 congrats sliivo anon, be sure to share your first impressions
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>>22429 I'm not big on words when it comes to describing audio. As long as it works I'm good. I'll be stuck with what I get either way. Just hope the tubes aren't noisy for IEMs. For impressions I'll just take a look at how it works and all it's features, and share how I've set it up with all my audio sources. I'm hoping the SE input passes audio to both the balanced and SE outputs at the same time, which it should. That way I can only use one of my passive input switches. I'm considering getting a spectrum analyzer just to make my setup look cooler. Or uglier with all the random colors not matching. I think the TA-32 always has all outputs active so I could output an audio signal to my speaker amp via XLR and then the analyzer via RCA and all of the digital and analog inputs are gonna go straight in the xDuoo. That would mean having it always on though, and as far as I know the tubes are still active and wear out even if I'm just using it as a DAC or preamp. You also don't get to have volume control with the preamp feature unless you're using the SE tube output, which I don't think I will, so my speaker amp upgrade has to have a volume knob. Unless I wanna spend money on an actual preamp too... Anyways. it should be 2-3 weeks before it arrives unless they somehow ship it in 1 week like last time. Hopefully the thread is alive by the time I get it.
>>22431 I found a headphone amplifier at the thrift store the other day and I'm kind of confused, does it just make my headphones louder? could I plug a mic into it and that work too? what's the point of them?
>>22435 Your headphones have small speakers inside of them which need to be driven by something to produce sound. Better amplifier = nicer and louder sound.
>>22435 Isn't the term self-explanatory? It amplifies headphones aka makes em louder. >could I plug a mic into it no you need a dedicated ADC, some "gaming" amps come with this like the Schiit Fulla or Fosi K7 >what's the point of them? Because certain headphones are hard to drive. Unlike gaming/consumer headphones like your hyperx/logitech which are designed to be driven directly off your motherboard, audiophile headphones like the hd600, ath-r70x, dt990 are designed to be driven from a dedicated amp, because your motherboard does not provide the necessary current/voltage to move the transducers in those headphones.
I'm using some random marshal earbuds I got gifted years ago, because the gayass dogshit fiio ka15 can't deal with my linux thinkpad, and holy fucking shit these are so uncomfortable and ass sounding compared to my sliivos. And there are people out there in real life that are listening to even worse ones. Wow.2c0
I don't get the point of streamers. Don't understand the point.
>>22483 Because they're meant as a source for hifi systems in home theaters. Imagine a dedicated listening room with two tower speakers and a hifi stack in the middle - that's where the streamer goes. Obviously if you only listen to music right at your PC you wouldn't get one.
>>22528 >home theater I'm not no Bill Gates...
Man...since 2 weeks back the thread quality over on 4chan has been egregious - It's like a wave of /pol/ newfags just discovered IEMs - just constant brand shitflinging and disingenuous objectivist arguments to attract attention. It's like hating/shitting on the hobby is the only way they know how to engage with it.
>>22572 always been shit, just that the stench is much more obvious after the vacation it's part of the charm even if it's all just the same shit over and over
>>22572 Too many jeets, kikes, and gays.
My xDuoo still hasn't left ch*na.
>>22647 I ordered a Jutem leather case for my DX340 on taobao a while back and the seller told me the waiting period is 45 days. Let's see whose product arrives first.
>>22648 For sure mine. I ordered from hifigo and it's so crooked it wont even go through customs and I wont pay VAT (hopefully I don't jinx it). It's just moving warehouses in ch*na before it flies off. Hopefully it arrives in one piece too. Otherwise it should arrive withing 2 weeks I'd say (I hope).
>>22649 >I wont pay VAT (hopefully I don't jinx it) Lol good luck with that. It's easy for tax evade for iems because customs will just assume its some $5 pos but I wonder how it will go with a hefty tube amp.
>>22650 I don't know why and how but it doesn't even go through customs somehow. Hopefully it applies to this order too.
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Some new amp/dacs coming to High End Munich: >Aune A triple stack and a flagship amp. >D&A Some new brand with Shenzhenaudio as the distributor. Unsurprisingly it's already measured on ASR. Apparently priced at $700 - specs look decent for the price but I'm kinda jaded with Chinese stacks. >Eversolo New DAC-Z10. Rumored to use AKM chip. >Luxsin New sister brand of Eversolo. New amp/dac all-in-one: Luxsin X9. Priced at 1100 euros, uses AKM, 4W into 32 ohms. >Gustard Gustard R30, new R2R dac.
>>22673 But I just ordered a TA-32 crodie...
>>22676 you can keep the ta-32 as a tube preamp bwo. i'm still looking for a summit-fi stack but one of my initial plans was to run a tube preamp into the holo bliss
>>22677 A tube preamp into what though croski? I'm not the massivest fan of my SMSL H300. Also not buying another headphone amp that's for sure. I might consider using it for my potential speaker amp upgrade, although people are saying the tube SE output isn't better than the DAC XLR. Anon what kind of gear do you currently have anyways? A holo bliss is over 3k... BY THE WAY my TA-32 is currently in Hungary. I might get it as soon as the end of next week holy shiiiiiit.
>>22714 >Anon what kind of gear do you currently have anyways? DX340 for my portable use, FiiO K11 R2R for my desktop use. The R2R dac portion is decent, but the amp is severely underpowered for my iems (see >>22258). >A holo bliss is over 3k Unironically the Bliss is still a bang-for-buck considering that other amps at its price point don't match the Bliss in terms of low-distortion power delivery. But I'm dragging my feet on my desktop upgrade since the Mass-kobo 485 is dropping end of May and I'd like to demo that first.
>>22740 >FiiO K11 R2R Fucking eww anon. >Mass-kobo 485 You'll be able to just walk in a store and test a new release from an obscure brand like just like that? Damn.
>>22763 >You'll be able to just walk in a store and test a new release from an obscure brand like just like that? Yea, I even got to hear the $17000 flagship, the 465 (>>19080).
>>22779 Must be nice having a local that just gets all the gear.
>>22788 Unless you live right in the middle of Antarctica I'm sure there's always a local community of audiophiles in your city, you just gotta expend the effort to search for em. My friend lives in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in Australia and he slowly managed to garner enough clout for manufacturers to send him demo units to cater to his locality. It comes down to lurking more in every online community you can find till you make friends with people who live near you. But if you can't be fucked to larp as a social butterfly there's always the option of flying to the nearest Canjam. If you spend your time wisely you can audition a hundred sets in a weekend, and that will give you infinitely more experience than reading a 100 AES papers and larping as an audio engineer on 4chan.
>>22790 >local community of audiophiles in your city, Nah bro. So called """audiophiles""" over here are absolutely retarded. No knowledge or taste whatsoever. Beats by dre type of audiophiles. There are of course bound to be a couple of actual audiophiles with real expensive gear that's not just overpriced meme garbage, but they're not part of any community. They just mind their own business. Like me, except I'm not a genuine audiophile and my stuff is just mid-fi. I wouldn't consider the TA-32 hi-fi, and that's gonna be my most expensive piece. Online "communities" over here boil down to facebook groups of people either flexing some old yamaha receiver, them drawing BMW logos on their speakers, or richfags showing some outdated overpriced garbage, because that's all our one """hi-fi""" local store sells.
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>>22790 Didn't know what Canjam was by the way, although these locations are not a thing for me. London being the closest, which isn't even close for a eastern yuropoor like me, and I'd never set foot in fucking London lmao. All of these other locations I'd also never consider visiting ever, aside from HK or SG, but that's such a big commitment just for audio. All of the expenses to go to Asia would amount to a hi-fi setup lmao.
>>22790 Overestimating the amount of audiophiles, never mind IEM enthusiasts. Australia is fine because it's an English speaking country so social media and forums are good places to check. The rest have to rely on Facebook groups, in which case I'll pray for whoever has to go through that. >If you spend your time wisely you can audition a hundred sets in a weekend, Canjam is decent for trying stuff out, but the whole atmosphere and setting can really skew your perception. Local stores are so much better. >that will give you infinitely more experience than reading a 100 AES papers and larping as an audio engineer on 4chan. Meh, you need a mix of both. You'll get infinitely more enjoyment out of just listening to stuff, but if you want to understanding why you're hearing what you're hearing, then getting "proper" knowledge is the only option.
>my TA-32 shipment is going to be handled by the nigger local company instead of the good one FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
TA-32 has left Hungary.
>>22919 grats, I bought some symbio w and shanling se100 tips to tide myself until the mass-kobo demo drops
UH OH I JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE THAT MY TA-32 IS ARRIVING TODAY >>22922 You're getting these because they have interesting features I assume, or do you know some secret about tips? Me personally I'm a sancai shill and I don't think I'll ever try a different pair. What are your favorites?
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>>22939 >or do you know some secret about tips? Nah I'm just a collector, I buy every tip on the market. >What are your favorites? Simplest is best - nicehck07, bgvp a07, acoustune aet07, basically any of those medium-bore stock tips. Reason being most iem brands tune using those tips in mind. But I am a fan of Nostalgia XWB tips, they offer the best treble extension out of any wide-bores I've tried. >I'm a sancai shill and I don't think I'll ever try a different pair If it works, it works. Tip comfort is incredibly subjective so congrats on finding a pair that suits you.
>>22940 > Reason being most iem brands tune using those tips in mind. Never thought about it like that.
>>22941 It came to me during Canjam after chatting with the people who tune those iems. For example Kotori Audio tunes using sony silicone tips as a base because those are the cheapest and most accessible tips that they can source from their supplier.
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Holy shiiiiiiiiit I just got two packages at once
>>22943 holy FUARK...
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Testing the fitment before I wire everything up. Had to put it on the right side, which is cucked. Maybe I could get a 4 pin xlr male to female cable and route it to the other side.
Fuck me dude it sounds like it's broken. Cracks and pops at every note what the fuck man...
>>22948 check your DAC lineout, similar shit happened when i tried the fiio k11 r2r + masskobo433 stack
>>22949 DAC lineout?
>>22950 oh right, forgot it was an all-in-one. could be the tube socket in that case
>>22951 One of the tubes did have crooked feet which i straightened out but the socket can't be that fucking sensitive...
>>22952 Ok it works now. Apparently you can't power it using an IEC socket. Hopefully it didn't do any damage.
Damn this isn't noisy with my sliivos at all. I thought I'd need to roll the tubes because some youtuber said there's some background noise but I can't hear it..
>>22954 Well no I lied. It's not completely silent although it's better than my H300.
Damn so the preamp functionality is only for the digital inputs. You can't input an analog signal to the xduoo and pass it through to a speaker amp.
Enjoying some goth music with my TA-32 on world goth day today.
I was wondering if I got any real improvement in audio quality with my TA-32, but today I got reminded how awful it can be. Went to my friend's place to fix his PC and gave him my old F**O K3. He has a pair of ATH-M40x and it sounded like a tin can full of shit. I was wondering if it was broken or something. I wonder if my sliivos would sound like literal liquid ass to someone with a better pair.
>>23032 Coincidentally, I was out yesterday auditioning new headphones and it really put into perspective how warm and muddy my daily driver (Aune AR5000) is. But prior to that I've never thought my Aunes were "bad". And truth be told if you're stuck with a pair of headphones without the opportunity to A/B with other sets, brain burn-in quickly sets in and you acclimatize to your gear within 15~30 mins. If you'd listened to the ATH-M40X for longer, those apparent flaws would have disappeared because of sensory fatigue, and that's how people can live with "shitty" gear. You just learn to enjoy what you have. >I wonder if my sliivos would sound like literal liquid ass to someone with a better pair. Subjectively perhaps. If someone is used to a brighter signature, they might find the Sliivos to be muddy and low-res. I subjectively find the Sliivos to be slightly boomy and lacking in treble extension, so I'm going to prefer the Tea Pro (tighter bass) and EPZ P50 (brighter treble). Now bearing in mind I don't think it's possible for those pairs to sound "objectively better" than the Sliivos (and the ATH-M40X), but that's another can of worms.
>>23039 >and the ATH-M40X Nah lmao they definitely do. Those are absolute garbage. Creaky plastic shit with the worst ear pads that peel cancerous flakes into your ears. That being said I'm still looking for a sliivo upgrade or sidegrade in the 400-500 dollar range. Don't think it exists now though.
>>23040 rather than looking for an upgrade for your sliivos you could consider looking into a different sound signature, something less bassy and more neutral-sounding
>>23043 Yeah for sure. That's what I meant by sidegrade. Just can't seem to find something that catches my eye. I'm sure some amazing IEM will come out by the end of the year at least though.
>>23045 >amazing IEM will come out by the end of the year Not really in your price bracket, but there's the Mysticraft Tribrid (no official name yet) priced at $999 USD. It's still in the works but I've heard it during Canjam and it sounds like an Elysian Annihilator/Elysian X. It is peak value for performance and is going to be my default rec as 'baby's first kilobuck' when it does drop.
>>23046 Sounds cool. I'm more of a speaker/headphone baby though. I only use IEMs when I'm outside and I doubt I'd spend that much ever.
>>23047 What headphones do you use? I've been looking for an upgrade for my Aunes for a while but most high-end headphones that I've tried are just unnaturally bright to my ears. It's kinda baffling that "something warmer than the HD600" is such a hard ask.
>>23048 I'm Sash Tres Chad from /hpg/ so I use a pair of Sash Tres SE (with EQ). Have DT 880 Pros, which I don't use, and a pair of MDR 7506, which I only use when I play/record guitar.
>>23049 >Sash Oh, it's one of those "one-man operation" type of headphones. Headphones from those types like the Modhouse Tungsten, Philphone, Sierra Open etc have a certain appeal to it. Fingers crossed I can convince my local retailer to source a demo.
>>23050 Your local retailer is goated if they can, because these are made to order. It's one dude making him with his dad in his basement in Ukraine. I got mine a year ago when they were being bombed still. Dude made me a solid by declaring a lower cost so I didn't have to get raped by customs. They are really well built and very comfortable and sound great too, although I prefer them with EQ. I usually try and say an IEM/headphone shouldn't need EQ but it is what it is. Takes a few months to get built and sent out though. I hear the new Verum 2 headphones are gonna be even better when they come out as well. So far they had some kickstarter thing but I wasn't interested. Can't remember if the Verums are made by a Ukrainian or a Russian, but there was some drama surrounding that. Maybe your retailer can get those too. Does your retailer have Stax? I'm really curious about Stax, but I'm definitely not spending that much ever. If you're a summit-fi'er though you can justify it.
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>>23051 >Does your retailer have Stax? Yeah they do, I suppose you're referring to these? Stax aren't really on my radar cuz they need a separate energizer though. I want my amp to drive iems too, not just exclusive to headphones.
>>23052 Yeah but if you're going for summit-fi, you can afford it. Or you can at least demo them. I wonder what the difference in sound is.
Bought waners off Amazon (their linsoul shop) and yep it’s been a month and they still aren’t here
>>23062 Not sure what a waner is but I've never shopped from Amazon and I don't think I ever will.
There were some interesting headphone releases at high-end Munich: >Fiio FT7 >Moondrop Para 2 >Moondrop Horizon >Meze 105 SILVA >Aune AR9000 Also my Taobao eartips have shipped but they are stuck at the harbour in China until the ship departs on 3 June. Sigh.
>>23162 All chinese.
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Need to stop getting baited into buying things I'll use once a month but I wonder if this will be good to use with IEMs.
What is this thread?
>>23208 In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General
>>23207 Yeah it's going to work with IEMs, but you're overpaying for the R2R and Jan tube output. For the most part, I'm not a fan of cheap R2R implementations because they measure incredibly bad (the FiiO R2R had a 70db sinad) and sound worse than their delta-sigma contemporaries. If you want a CD player just get the Moondrop Discdream.
>>23210 >Moondrop Discdream That one's kinda garbage though. I want a CD transport anyways. Can't imagine walking outside with a CD player in 2025. Not buying this shanmeme either way, I just thought it looked cool and wanted to bump the thread a bit.
>>23211 >>23211 >kinda garbage Other than not being able to rip CDs it just works. Bought one for my mate and he seemed pretty happy with it.
>>23213 Nah I wouldn't use my rare pristine CDs in that scratchmonster. Can't use it as a transport either. It's a literal meme. I'd be happy to get it as a gift too. Would never buy one though.
>>23211 >>23214 If you want a transport there's the SMSL PL200T which is only 200 bucks.
>>23219 I've been eyeing it since release, but apart from the ugly color, it's $499.
>>23209 Okay, what does that mean?
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>>23226 that's my bad, I'd assumed the first figure I saw to be correct
Not IEMs but I just got a new speaker amp and I'm disappointed. I fucking hate shills.
>>23238 Reviewers aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. That's why as a matter of principle I don't buy stuff that I can't demo.
>>23247 I'm drunk as shit right now
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I want to integrate a CD and a cassette player in my system. For whatever reason this Tascam model with the digital output is discontinued and they only sell the shitty analog one. Could overpay for the PL200T and deal with the ugly color, but then I'd also have to find a cassette deck too.
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>tfw peqqed by PEQdB as "basshead" and Beats products align closer than expected >untuned Power Beats Pro being close to such a degree >stock MDRs were probably great in the 80s except its 1985+40 and inventions like neodymium magnets and mass injection moulding exist Above notices aside, I'm trying to pick though either one of these >Kiwi Cadenza >Tanchjim Bunny >Simgot EW100P & EW200 The EW200 is probably closest when it comes to the generated preference squiggle, plus it's basically the same price as the Cadenza. Only downside I can see is the Presence & Treble getting a tad grating, but it would be better than 7506s as a whole. Then the Bunny and EW100 would be good if considering going slightly cheaper but still keeping allegedly good build quality.
>>23325 >Only downside I can see is the Presence & Treble getting a tad grating I can't comment on the other two, but I've heard the Bunny and yes, it is grating. Then again, I have two friends who daily drive the Bunnys so it really is a length mode/hrtf issue.
>>23325 EW200 is mega bright and shouty, more so than every other pos you mentioned The Bunny and Cadenza are probably your best bet, but I don't know why you're choosing based on sound quality if you plan on using EQ. If not then all of them will be drastically different than your target.
>>23328 I see it more as even with EQ, the 7506's can only go far in terms of adjusting sound First image was more or less to demonstrate how fucked the supposed preference profile I got was, that even EQing would only go so far. Second was more of potential picks I had. but yeah I can disquality the EW200 in that case.
>>23331 With IEMs you can go very very far, much farther than you would expect For IEMs, if you are proficient with EQ, you should only be focusing on looks and comfort.
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>Impulse bought a Questyle CMA15 yesterday Lmao fuck me. Shop was selling the last CMA15 unit at a heavily discounted clearance price, so I fomo'd. It doesn't drive the Duality the way I like it, but it'll suffice for now. The Questyle has a nice physical switch to flick between HP Amp and DAC-only so that's going to be fun when I do add an endgame amp to the stack. Unlike other amps, the Questyle is current-driven and has quite a nice warm tonality akin to tubes, so it does a niche in my collection, but I'm gonna look for a dryer sounding amp next.
>>23333 that cable + iem combo is so ugly, what is wrong with you and prestige anon
>>23334 That's the stock cable (Mira MK2) for the Storm. It's not like I intentionally uglified my setup.
>>23335 get the yongse britney, it will probably look superb with the storm and is more functional a shame that your setup looks as ugly as it is, don't know how you even listen to them knowing how ungodly they look
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>>23336 I appreciate the suggestion anon, but admittedly I have a massive price bias - so it feels wrong to substitute the mira cable for smth cheaper when the mira retails for $2000 msrp.
>>23337 yeah it was kind of obvious you had a mental illness. no worries, there are other options. an all black cable from pwaudio will probably match well and really put focus on the faceplate. na aoraki mk3 fits the color scheme nicely, same for penon storm and ea centurion 2 (black gold edition) anyways you should really optimize your cable, the msrp of the mira is most likely mega inflated just to make the storm stand out as a product. shoddy product matching tbh
I've decided that EQ is a meme.
>>23340 How so?
>>23342 Analog audio. How am I gonna use EQ to compensate for my POS' shortcomings if my source is my vinyl record player hmmm? Check meight EQists.
>>23333 (me) addendum: cma15's tonality isn't warm at all, it's my music that's warm. after A/Bing with my dx340 for a day i'd say the questyle is mildy bright
Gave my friend my old f**o jh3 pieces of shit and he said his bluetooth skullcandy pieces of shit sound better.
>>20437 (me) My Jutem leather case got delayed again, goddamn chinks
>>23386 Pics?
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>>23387 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqxHkfvp64
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not my pic (obviously) i ordered lemon yellow colorway for mine
>>23388 Damn you got the 4chan (gay and cringe) colorway.


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