threads are too fast

I hope Henya will be ok...

>>589526 Don't worry argiepekefag, they're gonna get pretty slow soon.

>>589537 I doubt that. This is just the beginning of the end.

is it too early to lust mouse?

Fuck im already crying

Rolling pink for vtuber jesus

Really feel bad for Tori just as for Beri and Pia even if she doesn't show it as much.

>>589546 She is currently vulnerable.

Sad roll

i never thought i'd wish for gunrun to killhimself more than Mono

>latest delay was Jan 2026 jesus dude, glad they don’t have to be strung along for a whole year

>>589567 Purple retard.

>>589571 dude, they wanted to pull a haruka.

Henya starting

Henya time! Get hype everyone! Surely an energetic and happy stream!

Henya starting, idk if i can watch this, the Michi one already fucked me up

>>589560 so... maybe?

holy fuck this already feels awful and she only said her name

fuck off and die kirsche

https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius She live

Fuck you Gunrun

OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK WHY WHYY WHY?

Henya also is owed money. Shocker.

you will die, gunrun

Same stuff with Henya. Basically everyone got fucked over...

<vshojo owes me a significant amount of debt <that i havent been played in a long time

Bros, how do we reference this gen? Perhaps… Supernova?

>>589655 The Death.

WHERE'S THE MONEY GUNRUN

>>589655 the final nail

>>589655 Abortion

>>589670 heavenly will do what we all want to for his kamioshi

>>589655 No one sees my vision? Supernova, because it blew up? =(

Henyaversary merch is gone-gone, holy

>>589675 i hope he crushes gunrun with his big fucking body

I can't handle henya's voice right now.

>>589675 i'm not racist BUT... Time to spread the word through the ghetto.

I wish fucking cartel treatment for Gunrun and the upper management involved in this.

>>589670 Connor-san watching now also

>>589701 He is Connor-chan now.

Man I got to go and can’t watch Henya, but hang in there guys

Pink for Nyanners, Mei, Froggy, Ironmouse, and Peke! Pink love everyone <3

>>589711 That's a bleak color...

>>589684 it's jarring hearing her and mouse without "streamer" voice. I'd heard mouse's before when she did the idf podcast interview but not henya's

Henya since the very beginning had problems with merch, I remember her apologizing for debut one. She can't catch a break.

>>589641 Getting really tired of this cunt aggressively orbiting around her

>>589682 Wait you mean the one that included the green card? Wtf of course the one bundle I buy isnt gonna be shipped

level 28 hype train in emote only mode >>589720 she and phase are clearly trying to groom her because she doesn't know how bad they are and it's disgusting

>>589720 they want to leech from her so bad. Since day one

henya said she loved me... Later nerds.

>>589726 fortunately so long as she and mouse remain close i trust they wont be able to reach that deep

>>589739 mouse and connor adoption arc. Now that would be a really silly sitcom.

>>589739 She gonna get poached to geex+. Same with hime. And mouse.

The theme for the new EN gen was monster girls

>>589745 the best outcome

It was sad but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, thankfully she still has her manager and even a lawyer to help her sort everything out

>16k people sitting in an ended stream lol

>>589748 i mean with pia being a slime girl and beri a bug, it made total sense

>>589754 Isn't Henya's manager also Kson's manager?

>>589745 Honestly, I wouldn't mind. Way more layers of protection and actually people they know and Connor is even on the board. Plus, Kadokawa backing could lead to some interesting stuff.

>>589745 GeeX+ and Mythic will be poached by Henyacorp

>>589757 It is

>>589759 She gonna buy vshojo ip and renamed it to v-dayo

>>589757 There's 2 accounts with a very similar name so they could be owned by the same person https://x.com/henyamng https://x.com/ksonmng

>first 5 minutes of the vod muted by twitch REEEEEE WHY THE FUCK DOES TODAY SUCK SO MANY DICKS WHAT ELSE CAN GO WRONG

>>589767 it's mamane on both

>>589745 hope so. tbh I trust connor over most of the girls when it comes to serious matters and doing the right thing, the man dedicated a significant portion of his life to charity that hasn't even personally helped him

>>589745 I don't care who poaches her as long as they treat her well, respect her boundaries, and are not doxfags and dramapigs

>>589745 oh also, hime's grandma is already signed to geex so she might just roll them into one since she doesn't need to protect her identity

today was a really awful day and because of gunrun i can't even have my emotional support rat today. What a shitshow man...

>>589776 It probably already got clipped, just wait a bit

>>589788 I mean, it would be funny to see on their roaster, hime amd hime's grandma

idk how i'm gonna react if I see a clip of a nova crying

henya from independent

>>589808 oh man im glad peke is off because if there's a nova who would end up crying on stream, it's her

Froot said she also has loose ends to look over with legal experts, so she's most likely gonna discover Vshojo fuckery on her side as well

>>589819 yea she even refrained from explicitly saying she's leaving vshojo because she's on a waiting game with her lawyer

>>589811 man I do wonder what they are thinking They are pretty much new to all of this specially Hotaru You can tell she has never streamed before joining

>chat guessing what kind of monster girl Tori will be in her redebut tomorrow >someone says "a woman" >she laughs Ok I'll follow. She doesn't have a stick up her ass

>>589829 >doesn't have a stick up her ass Literally all I ask for these days.

The more I think about it the more mad I am. Fuck that asshole.

>>589748 What if the 4th member was a horse girl

>>589838 After today I honestly won't be satisfied until I see this asswipe Gunrun and everyone involved in upper vshojo EN management is in a jail cell. MTD too, I believe Aethel when he says MTD isn't entirely blameless. This snake is just trying to save his own ass.

>>589861 mtd's tweet screamed "im throwing you under the buss to save my ass from public scrutiny" and i'm mad it worked

>>589861 Take into account that Aethel's issue with him was personal (he was probably a cunt to Nyan as she was leaving), but I believe he was involved regardless.

>>589861 As much as I want this to happen, it won't. Bad people always get away with stuff like this.

>>589867 Even if he wasn’t, he’s guilty of incompetence

>>589861 Here is my rrat MTD was in charge of all the con appearances/parties and he was making them paying the bills and not caring for the price and we know AX and Twitch con That shit is expensive AF specially how big of a space they had originally Remember that big ass screen they had at AX

>>589891 i mean... yeah? This is not the government

>>589796 https://youtu.be/mNxtwycTz2w?si=yoI93NeEIfjqhdnn

>>589902 i don't remember henya saying that... Did she said it?

>>589891 I never understood why would someone unironically call it nepotism when they never hired inadequate people/relatives. It's just networking, it's a standard in entertainment.

>>589904 She did say it, well, she said "I trusted this company"

>>589911 Technically its cronyism

>drops 16k >refuse to elaborate >leave

>>589827 well, you might be surprised because of her PL that we do not discuss. Idol agencies were schematics for vtuber agencies

>>589933 I understand that but like she probably might feel like a fool since she has the experience from her past

>>589922 cronyism also means it favors relationship over merit which is just untrue in this case. They pick the best they can get. More so in auditions. And it's not always about numbers too, group dynamics has to be taken into account and is part of qualifications.

quinn is going around saying vshojo tried to hire him... WTF?

>>589939 she trusted Loutlot, Loutlot trusted Gunrun, Gunrun is walking away. I'd say Loutlot is a fool, but thing, japan

>>589943 I'd believe it because of that shill campaign with all those collabs.

>>589929 are they part of connor's chat? i think i've seen that name b4

Tori seems like ending, Pia is going live

Slime girl is live

>>589954 I think so. They gave a lot of subs to both mouse and him, iirc.

A second Charlie video has hit the V.

>>589975 is there anything left to hit at this point?

>>589952 I remember all the sudden collabs with this unfunny bum, it felt really forced and i'm glad he never got in

>>589982 the clout... But i honestly want more eyes on mouse charity.

>>589988 5 minutes in vt would show them no one wanted to watch him and we know they had people lurking vt.

Souchou going through it lol, she never tweeted as much. Hope it helps her to channel her frustration.

imagine if nyana and kitanya were actually part of the new vshojo gen and graduated less than a week before this shit

>>590013 holy shit that would be so sad

>>590003 i want to hug her and say everything will be alright. Probably not but i will be hugging kson. Fuck the world.

anyway talking aboput something nice, Michi said she will probably have a streatch goal for her subathon to go visit Numi in the US and my Purple Yuri ass is about to finally join in a subathon goal push

>>589982 they are not bad. they are vultures circling around corpse of vshojo, but it keeps situation in a spotlight and makes it big deal; I'd say this is good for talent affected by it

these girls would greatly benefit from vshojo public. Too bad they have to get only half and us for now.

expreshojo member lol

That slime girl sounds very fun and unhinged

>likes fo4 Ok i'm done, she deserves it...

Its crazy that they were all at Offkai and Gunrun didn't even bother meeting them, what a faggot

>>590075 Someone said she didn't even knew who they were only that the girls were selected.

guess you guys were right...

>>590075 he probably already knew it was over at that point

Genuinely hope Pia Tori Beri will find the success they were hoping for and more. Love all of them, watched Pia most of them and Beri a bit too. Tori seems really nice. Hope they'll be able to connect still and get the attention they deserve from viewers and the ex talents they wanted to meet.

>>590087 about?

>they were supposed to debut on march but it kept getting delayed >>590075 He was probably too busy planning his escape

>>590098 she preparing to leave lmao

>>590100 nah bro he was grinding his fortnite skills

>>590047 vulturing has been somewhat limited on this imo, I'd reserve that label for anybody who makes it all about them

the final hibernation. :(

>>590132 OOF

>>590140 >>590141 >>590142 We were cucked out of it...

>>590147 Gunrun took some genuine kino away from us

>GUNRUN hit the second tower, they stole the charity money lmao I love Pia

Those 3 preshojos streams are such a whiplash

Well, here's the final count. Mel as the longest tenured Vshojo at 1701 days. Ama as the shortest at 117 days. Nova made it all of 242 days. Vei and Nazuna were the only ones that made it /out/ longer than they were /in/.

>>590158 >they actually found some decent 2views and had them ready to go Who were the other two? I'll give their vods a watch.

>>590166 Beribug and Tori Oriane

>>590166 BeriBug and Tori Oriane

>>590161 Accompanying bar graph.

>>590166 PiaPi https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo https://www.youtube.com/c/PiaPIUFO Beribug https://www.twitch.tv/beribug https://www.youtube.com/@beribug Tori Oriane https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane https://www.youtube.com/@ToriOriane follow and support them please

Ah fuck, she is crying now >i had to say goodbye to this dream

>>590156 Based nimi. Indies together strong

Feel terrible for these girls They had the opportunity of a lifetime turn to shit

Oh man I really liked her energy and now she's crying... this girl reminds me a lot of Michi, i'm sure they would've gotten along really well >>590156 Based

oh man... Now that she talked about mel... Fuck

Pia is friend with Mel apparently

Snuffing out these bright-eyed, motivated new hires is almost as infuriating as the Nova situation

>Pia was hanging out with Mel in Japan and became friends without Mel knowing Pia joined fuck.

>>589975 just watched yesterday's video for the first time >I don't think all of their talent is going to leave overnight oh charlie from 24 hours ago, how naive you were

>>590126 both getting facts wrong and blaming wrong CEO for actually having a spine and answering kson's call live. that's sloppy

i need a second... Too many sad news today. I need a breath. Fuck.

this is what makes me so mad. nova is gonna be in the shitter, all the new girls never got the chance to debut. the members who were already in will ultimately be fine, but nova and and these newcomers won't be and that they thought they will be.

She also speaks fucking japanese, she could've been another bridge between the EN and JP members and comfortably collabed with either groups, what a fucking waste man

>>589975 Dude this nigga got glazed by mouse, now he’s farming the corpse and not even making a dono to the idf. Unless I missed it. Two videos is crazy

>>590228 She was also in peke's chat a few times, and i remember peke raiding her once

>>590230 Let them all farm the corpse.

Michi's cursed tarot mentioned again

>>590236 Least they can do is drop 1500

Man we were fucking robbed Pia is great

>>590139 Hopefully being indie helps Haruka get her mojo back

https://x.com/sayusyn/status/1947833717374046587 Look who popped up lol

Any new developments today? Couldn't stand constantly seeing my girls ipset so I checked out. Saw that Michi and Haruka left though

>>590227 I have hope that Hestia will be okay. She speaks very good English and could transition to an ENtuber easily if she wanted to, which would increase her views a lot

>>590248 This should finally put an end to her brain goblins

>>590254 Henya got scammed and is leaving

>>590230 charlie is an OG on youtube which means he's a massive signal booster, and he's also anti-corpo long before this. I have no issues with him making multiple videos especially when things are happening so fast

>>590254 Everyone is owed money, everyone left, we know the audition winners and when they were supposed to debut.

>>590251 holy shit

>>590256 i had no faith in hestia until her collab with giri. It was amazing, i feel in love with her but i can't really watch full jp streams during work.

>>590256 I need Hestia to become a mid 3view with a good sub base so she can be free of her job.

>>590251 uh oh google dockey

>>590251 still don't like sayu and she would have been a bad hire but all of this certainly tracks and may be why vshojo was eager to hire some former nijis, they'd already been primed on it. maybe they got bad vibes from sayu, it was shitty to ghost her though

Bad people can be victims, too.

>>590289 THANK GOD, she had gone into many dramas after this shit

How is Tori for those who watch her stream?

>>590251 Just small talk, “tell my guy”. She’s talking it like a verbal promise lol. Done plenty of sales pitch that seem to went well only to have them backtrack or scale down the promise. She is in fact beyond saving

decent lineup

>>590289 >they'd already been primed on it I mean, they got handed nijisanji's internal shit and how bad it is LONG BEFORE it became public. They knew which strings to pull for Mata Kuro and Michi

I wonder if zen will pick all these girls and invite them to the old zen wild ride and being very selfish here, i hope mouse get better soon and talk with them, it would be so meaningful for them.

>>590299 self-proclaimed tiktok zoomer she's funny

>>590306 WAIT A SECOND... I KNOW THAT NOSE...

>>590306 >Keekihime UUUUUUH

>>590322 * surprise *

This Pia is a gem. It's a terrible shame their debuts got pushed back. Sure, the company would've still gone to shit but if they had debut in March, they would've had a decent exposure and gotten to do some cool things.

>>590334 She is getting an exposure, not as big, but still significant

>>590334 yeah...

>>590334 they could had been debutted in feb or even jan. They just knew the company would collapse.

Vshojo could have had a monstergirl gen fuck gunrun

>>590317 Meh. You say Hime, I say Syd.

Im on copium, but I hope Zen and Mouse will do some good stuff with them. Zen will Zennap them and Mousey will bring them along with to XVShojo Minecraft server to collab with the other members.

>>590353 I really hope she moves forward with MouseCraft.

rad

>>590334 She's great

>>590365 honestly, her server would be better than the trash vshojo made.

>>590365 I know Henya will joined that's for sure

>>590373 Yeah, because it wouldn't be hosted on a fucking baked potato on the sidewalk. She can get an actual server.

uhhh

>>590384 She cute.

>>590384 isn't she from V4Mirai?

>>590392 Yes

>>590384 https://x.com/koumariya/status/1947697714407633247 >Been trying to find the right words to say and I can't find them or I can't say them .. I don't know if I'll ever have a chance to say them..? >9:38 AM · Jul 22, 2025 well there's another one

>>590384 Is she trying to tell us the same thing happened in V4M or was she also in consideration for Vshojo

cute video

>>590401 man this is so sad.

Mel and Pia are planning a beyblade tournament

>>590401 It was absolute cinema

>>590384 who? For real, who?

>>590408 Mel should make an org.

>>590414 >he doesnt know the pure sex asmr vampire Get on that shit

>>590415 worked out great last time

>>590419 i don't like slut asmr sorry.

List of all the would-be's?

>>590423 Me neither but her model is AAA

>>590426 i was about to say her model is sex

I think Pia model is really sex with the short hair

>>590425 >>590180

these girls lost almost one year for this... Man, 2025 is very cursed.

>>590443 Let's hope 2026 is a turn around. Mouse said things will get really bad, which it did. But then things will turn back to normal.

In brighter news.

>>590454 $700K HUZZAH

>streams 5-6 times per week >has a job on top of that

>>590454 yo ray and jaiden each put in 10k, nice

>>590452 2024 was awful for me but 2025 had a good start then everything had gone to shit and now my oshi is suffering... Meh

>>590454 That's insane. Silver linings I suppose

>>590472 Hestii is a hag, try to be wake past 10pm after 30s, see how fun it will be...

>>590481 I'm well aware

Definitely going to continue to follow Pia. She's great.

Damn gonna catch the vod, y’all praising pia so much

>>590489 she is kinda michi coded but not a lot of TMI (for now)

>>590489 She is great, also check out Beri

i think one of the greatest revelation is that momo could had been one of our core members. Shit is crazy.

One thing though, she really needs to do something with screen clutter, it was a bit overbearing.

>>590504 The greatest revelation is that even through their greed clouded eyes and malicious mindsets, Vshojo had the clarity to completely ignore FeFe.

>>590509 evergreen

>>590510 this shit is so fkn cringe

>>590509 It's very funny that fefe was monitoring the view count on her private audition tape and it never went up

>>590509 They were greedy not dumb. Ok they were dumb too but not that dumb

>>590509 This image will now be retired

>>590510 Man, I got banned twice for posting that. Also when I posted this classic during the keyfag arc before we knew Nazuna. Man, the timing of his castle video was great for the key tease.

>>590513 i like to imagine that panini saw the name, rolled her eyes and >>590510

>>590519 half jannies are a bunch of faggots. I got banned for posting the "mouse vanished" gif

>>590513 it's almost like naming yourself after a typo from the worst person in the world shows a lack of forethought to professionalism and normal people don't want to go near that shit also how she created drama by fake bullying herself through dms and threw buff and chibidoki under the bus for it despite them doing literally nothing ever

>>590530 All of that can be ignored for the much worse offense of whoring out her nude model like a common harlot

I haven't really posted lately cause all this shit is so depressing, and on top of everything Ozzy died today...my eyes have been water works, I think I'm taking a long break from the whole vtubing scene, I'm an OG poster but I think I reached my limit of emotional exhaustion, I'll miss you guys and some of you guys I've known for years (thread wise) we've been through a lot together. Please keep our little community together, maybe one day I'll return. I never thought it would end like this. My heart is broken and I've run out of tears. Much Love, Anon

>>590544 Mel literally does that?

>>590558 fefe is a professional victim anon... All she does is cry about people doing bad things to her

>>590557 the worst shit already passed up, cheer up anon

>>590442 >we would've gotten beribug Man that one hurts bad, hopefully the auditioned girls have no qualms with the current members

>>590568 evil momo was gunrun all this time...

>>590569 current members didn't even know about them, some of them found out literally today

>>590578 ironically I'm fine with non-vtubers making videos about this but false seems cringe. he's pissed me off lately and I have no idea why because I used to like him

>>590583 Sounds like an autism problem.

>>590557 I don't know how long this thread will go on but i'm glad to have shared this place with all of you tho i'm not going anywhere

>>590516 For Fefe? This is more appropriate

someone anons weren't around for zen stream so here you go... It kinda explains all her zenheras out of the blue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb3D2ieSRM8

>>590558 Yes I fault her the same way

>>590516 I mean, it is invalid now.

>>590599 Breh I’m watching at x2 and it still annoys me, please speak with less fluff Zen

>>590616 she is probably reading a script and crying too. TTS is doing a shit job in hiding it

>>590616 read the transcript on youtube, that's what I usually do

the fact she is still pissed with gfuel KEK

>>590623 I get it now if vshojo wasn’t paying her and they forced this shit on everyone I would be pissed too

Well that was a waste of time, time for Pia vod

>>590650 and the fumbling keeps getting worse. We were about to get a literal nobody wave and it would had been amazing.

>>590663 She just confirmed she was pissed since the end of the last year when people started to spin the rrat she hated mouse and shit KEK

>>590674 I mean, we know Vsj was still paying out until late last year. Not sure what Zen is yelling at gun for the last few years tho, but 20min of just saying she can’t talk about shit

Even Sushi is about to cry..

>>590650 I just fucking realized I posted her concert earlier >>590306

>>590700 lineup for a concert*

>>590700 Are you saying these five were the lineup for the next debut? /j

>>590693 sushi is about to spill some tea

Pia’s voice isn’t the cutest but her model is great and expressive, and her energy is good so far

>>590727 anon, it's late at night here and i'm tired. Can you ask grok or gpt to make a tl;dr?

>>590724 If the company was competent, first debut date was march… I’m just gonna focus on how cute she is, learning details just gonna make me sad

Sushi is saying she had good experience with staff and talents but she won't be able to say she worked with Vshojo because guilt by association is strong in japan.

Don't worry guys, her grandpa confirmed that Hime go out basically unscathed. Queen never cry.

>>590742 >Phoebe, a VTuber formerly known as Amy Amami, shares an emotional message revealing that she was one of the undebuted talents selected by VShojo in 2024. Although she was supposed to debut earlier, repeated delays and unclear communication from the company led to mounting frustration, financial strain, and ultimately, her departure. >She dedicated all of 2025 to preparing for her debut, giving up other opportunities and putting her second VTuber channel on hiatus. Despite immense effort from herself, other talents, and staff like Panini, many promised resources—including a new model, stream assets, and support for her 5-year anniversary album—never materialized due to poor communication and delayed payments. >Phoebe expresses deep disappointment in VShojo, criticizing their lack of transparency and failure to live up to their "talent-first" claims. Yet, she also takes time to thank the kind and hardworking staff she worked with and expresses love for her supportive community, the Phoebe Hive. >While she is heartbroken and exhausted, Phoebe remains hopeful, promising to continue pursuing her dreams independently. She encourages fans to support all past, present, and would-be VShojo talents and emphasizes that despite the setbacks, she and others will move forward.

>>590742 from what I remember, Vsj would be her 3rd agency. She was in prism project before. Delay also fucked her royally, both money wise and passed opportunities. Poor communication, constant delay, debut changed to self-funded with promise to pay them back (lel). she praise panini but also said staff don’t know what’s happening internally half the time and was kept in the dark. Man delays are fucked, stringing them along is evil. Iirc Beri decided against furthering her studies while waiting for vsj too

>>590770 What about the millions Hime lost?

https://x.com/PekeIsPeak/status/1947862368828199187 peke /out/ officially

What a cluster fuck of unending dogshit dude jesus Christ

>>590773 >>590774 thank you guys... It only get more depressing. And now sushi is saying she can't even talk about all the amazing work she did for vshojo. 5 years in the trash i guess.

https://x.com/AkatsukiDHotaru/status/1947861730480296319 https://x.com/HestiaHappiness/status/1947861984017608793 https://x.com/NagIsekaied/status/1947861729045573942#m https://x.com/PekeIsPeak/status/1947862368828199187 All of NOVA is out, Hotaru will be the first to stream at 6PM. Nagi at 9PM, Hesti at 10:30. Peke is still on vacation.

>>590780 My heart skipped a beat, I thought you meant out of streaming

All the Nova members have announced their departure from VShojo. They are discussing with the JP staff regarding future activies together as NOVA.

>>590819 I want to see and laugh at the PR statement of Vshojo.

Kinda noticed this gem in tiltify, what a chad

I'll keep watching nova despite my shit nihongo. I enjoy my autistic one piece and jrpg fan too much. Also watching sushidog and she confirmed that she got a delay in payment sometime last year as well from vshojo and had to pester a jp staffer to get paid which she did, and that tipped her off something was wrong at vshojo because companies only delay payments if they're not doing well. it looks like timelines from kson and others are lining up, the cash sometime around september or before just burned up and they started scrambling.

GNMF

https://files.catbox.moe/2h0pgf.webm the ex is not that bad sometimes

>>590874 I forgive him

>>590874 Kek. Also >where's the money gunrun!

sushi is stuck with a bunch of vshojo tarot cards. OOOFFFF

>>590874 許さない、死ぬ

>>590886 i have her 2nd ver. vshojo tarot cards, there's mostly no vshojo branding but kinda ironic now with GunRun as "The World" card. kek

>>590908 she is thinking about giving the originals to connor and mouse if they decide to use to charity or something

>>590913 that could be a neat idea. Vshojo garage sale event: scrounge up all this fan merch and sell it for charity

>>590913 fantastic idea

>>590801 >>590808 sherlockdayo won, vshojo is dead

>>590819 loutlot at least felt responsible for his talents. hopefully he fulfills his promise to let Nova/Univolt stay as a unit with their UMG deal etc.

>>590939 What a clown world, he was right all along. Vshojo is evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgde3wglIJ4 lol

>>590961 i'll wait for the tldr, the downfall has been kinda liberating but i'm burnout from all these my experience video lmao

>>590961 uh oh mint google dockey

>>590858 >companies only delay payments when they're not doing well yeah this is one of those things you learn from experience from other jobs. if vshojo were taking months to pay me that would have been my cue to leave. even if they did promise they would eventually pay me. I feel like leaving my current job whenever Im missing one hour's worth of pay let alone months

>>590961 The ride never ends. Tho I’m not really interested now, there’s so much out there from the monster girls that I sort of know what to expect.

>>590961 tl;dr anon... We are all exhausted

>>590994 It's just starting

>>590999 yeah there will probably be more. it was mentioned before but vshojo had a ton of reach as a company.

>>590961 Mei was right i dont wanna know anymore please release me from this burden i yearn from the whimsy and bliss of ignorance let me die but not before i see gunrun dragged to the deepest pit of hell on the slowest crawl through a thousand spike road so that i can at least die in peace knowing that retribution has been delivered because i know for a fact justice will not come just let it all end now

>>590999 is it about mata raping her in the vshojo bathroom?

ah so mint didn't get merch money either

Mint never received money from podcast merch

>>591017 gunrun mocked her about her DEAD DYING CHANNEL

>>591017 Yeah...but also about the podcast merch money dissapearing into a black hole

i couldn't resist watchiong it, Mint was pitching an idol group gen to vshojo

Mint pitched an idea of idol group to vshojo

MINT WAS A FUCKING VSHOJO MEMBER

>>591032 >>591033 >>591038 Holy fuck, Gunrun if you didn’t siphon the money we would have MINT IDOL GEN. l thought this couldn’t get any worse

THERE WAS A WHOLE IDOL GEN WITH MINT DEBUTING BEFORE THE PIA/BERI GEN

holy shit man, she was literally signed

this is easily the biggest non-money revelation holy fuck mint oh no she's crying fuck fuck

>We had mint >somehow vshojo fumbled it I'm tired of this shit bros

this is the worst one. this is the worst worst worst one. hearing her talk about lost opportunities again... I sobbed the first time I saw that pomu stream and it happened again

>wow tf Mint just kinda fucked off to yt after all that help, kinda cringe <she was already vshojo

Store receipt leak was actually real, she was a member

this has unironically been the biggest fumble in the history of vshojo, a gen with mint (great singer) and some others very likely on her level and another one with great 2 views, holy fuck that would've been so good, kys gunrun and MTD too, we know you spent money on the parties and useless advertisement faggot

WE HAD IT ALL ALL THAT WE /IN/POSTED WE WERE SET FOR THE PLATINUM ERA AND SOMEHOW THESE FUCKS RUINED IT ALL AND NOW WE HAVE NOTHING BUT BROKEN TALENTS AND CRUSHED DREAMS GUNRUN YOU WILL PAY IF NOT IN THIS LIFE IN THE NEXT AND THE ONE AFTER AND THE ONE AFTER

>>591067 And surprise, Valentines Day merch drop was pocketed by Vshojo

>mint choose vsj over everyone else vshojo wins once again

Sorry Mintbros, Gunrun had us all fooled.

This is ridiculous. Vshojo had a fucking powerhouse roster ready to roll. And they fucked it all up.

i'm tired right now can someone edit the V here? Thanks "YOU BLEW IT UP GODDAMMIT YOUR MANIACS"

>>591073 actually fucking infuriating, my last hope that i really don't think will be fullfilled is for a vchiban style group with no actual corpo to start with people like Mint, Henya, Michi and others who liked the group dynamic

>>591085 5% stream revenue would have fixed all of this, maybe other ways but that would have been such a simple fix that michi and geega both said they'd all probably agree to

My autistic ass keeps feeling guilty about this shit even though I'm a rando and have nothing to do with the company. I just feel dirty for supporting this scam. Maybe it's time to take my meds.

>>591085 That’s putting it lightly. Constrast from the one or two year invites, all the gens planned was mindblowing.

>>591101 everyone here thought vshojo was good anon...

kys gunrun, i barely watch Mint and this shit is hitting me harder than Michi and Henya, she had her whole dream and project crushed

/in/posts were real, jfc this is generational fumble

>>591110 same. this was her dream above all else and she had her dreams crushed a second time even after trying so hard again

>>591110 this is the thing, she has been longing for this "group dynamic" ever since she left niji and this was supposed to be it but once again, this fuck crushed another dream actually unforgivable

dude... Early someone was saying something about mint having multiple menhera attacks and such... Well, it explains why she never collabed with mouse or henya again. GOD SHE HAD TO WHORE HERSELF TO PHASE!

VShojo lineup 2025 + Mint Idol Group + Piapi/Phoebe/Beri/Tori Oh my fucking god, this shit is fucking boiling me

Her line about people that DO knew how bad things were didn’t do shit and let her walk into a burning building… I just keep thinking how it’s shots fired at lily, farming like a retard and bragging about no nda lmao

>>591129 yeah the pieces are falling all together now and it fucking sucks

>>591142 her and sinder are made for each other tbh it's all just business to them

>>591142 could you do a quick summary of what lily's been going on about? I only saw her first tweet and have ignored since, she's always rubbed me the wrong way

>>591156 we now know for sure she was the one who gave the parasite lawyer a copy of the contract.

>>591142 How is it shots fired at lily?

What's fucking next, Saba approaching VShojo since she followed Gunrun a few months ago? Get me off this wild ride brother

>>591156 My info is secondhand, people were updating the thread before how she drew up the contract Vsj offered to her on stream and ripped it apart point by point, and also talked about she didn’t give a fuck since no nda. Said something like she KNEW it was sus since so many obvious redflags, and vshojo wasn’t it. something like that

>>591142 If anything, that's shots fired at Vshojo talent or management she may have talked to, hell, direct shots at Mata make more sense than Lily

>>591185 it meant the executives and the money people obviously, but my mind went there. Since she was so fucking proud of knowing

didn't see this getting posted but based

>>591185 It's obviously at people like Gunrun who knew their finances were toast and then promised her shit he would never be able to deliver on

Ok, I feel bad for shitting on Mint, I legit thought she was ghosting everyone in VShojo. Fuck you Gunrun.

>>591160 not surprised >>591170 thanks >>591190 fuck yeah get some campaigns going on this

>>591193 pun not intended

at this point i'm just waiting for the Saba experience with Vshojo, it just keeps getting worse

>>591165 >>591205 I mean if you need a cash influx via merch, getting former gura is how you'd do it >>591208 uh oh

>>591208 >the idol gen was Mint,Saba and Nimi

And sorry to Mata, she was looking out for her friend and coworker this whole time.

>>591214 stop…

>>591208 PLEASE NO MORE... I CAN'T...

wait, Pia lives in Japan? Makes sense she met Mel and became friends, I was thinking it was a trip.

if saba was actually getting /in/ this might be the biggest org fumble i've ever seen, not just in the vtuber community

>>591261 Tomorrow I’ll find out vshojo also signed Taylor swift and LeBron.

we could have had it all man....

So, Panini is vindicated right? Fucking executives

I need a smoke

if the mint-saba-nimi thing was actually a thing i think vshojo would've unironically tripled in size, actual global niji/ holoEN competitor level

now i remember the trip mint and mata took to japan to meet dempagumi idols back when she was still deerskin. loutlot is the one with connection with (ex)dempagumi (furukawa mirin etc. she hangs out with hotaru and the rest of nova). We are so fucking cucked out of literal kino in the making. From her account, seems like loutlot was really trying to make it work but with the funds being siphoned his hands are tied.

pain

Phoneposting, but holy shit. If somehow vshojo not screwed up with the funding, 2024/2025 will be crazy years for vshojo, but alas...

>>591286 holy fucking shit, she said she was mostly involved with vshojoJP with the idol gen, imagine if Mint had a thing with someone from her kamioshi idol group with her in the idol gen, i can buy that mirin joined with how much she collabs with NOVA, actually killyourself gunrun and MTD

>>591300 >we couldve had peke and "definitely not peke" together

mtd that fucking faggot is absolutely guilty that's why he jumped ship early dude I'm so pissed

Everyone was memeing on mastering man up until NOVA debuts, but he was actually cooking this whole time. Loutlot...

>>591300 > i can buy that mirin joined with how much she collabs with NOV fuck me man, that would have been amazing

>>591304 >definitely not peke did i miss something? i'm still at the peke might've be a small time VA before joining rrat

>>591307 i know it would be hard, specially without the financial cushion kson and henya were, but i wish loutlot could grab the nova girls, whatever staff he can scrap from this mess, and make his own little thing with idols and vending machine beer

All this "what might have been" and lost possibilities are fucking me up. Burning of the Library of Alexandria type shit. We could have had it all and now we only have a bunch of people crying over broken dreams.

The promise of a golden age is over...

>>591319 it's a recurring joke from the time they all had their first collab. Mahiru, one of the ex denpa girls were in, had pink hair just like peke and the collab image had them next to each other so people joked about Mahiru being peke i have been playing uma these weeks and idk if it's the crack i was smoking or the fact that these kusogaki brats all sound the same but i feel peke might be one of the lesser VAs for this thing, i swear her voice is somewhere there

>>591323 Legit. Good riddance I thought, never did shit anyways I thought… but now I see all the shit that could’ve been…

>>591327 good is a big word, he admitted to not paying JP even if the JP side had the money while he still took his salary

Well now we know what was the "big things". They truly were big...

>>591342 He could not pay JP because the account was controlled by EN side. He and staff had a salary cut to keep the company going.

>>591342 what he admitted was the incompetence of just assuming EN was doing its part. JP does not directly pay anybody, payroll all came from headquarters at EN, loutlot only saw the bulk jp money in, jp money out He's not blameless, but he didn't singlehandedly decide not to pay kson, for example. Also they also cut his salary in half

>>591342 the JP finances are approved by HQ. if HQ doesn't approve, even with all the naked dogeza he could do, the money won't come. Are you expecting he pays for all JP projects out of pocket?

>>591342 he literally was not capable of paying them. and if you don't know the extent of the cash problem, as he didn't because it looked fine from the JP side from what he could see, a company keeping staff at half pay while trying to make money to pay talents their secondary income is a completely reasonable business decision this entire thing happened because nobody could see the bigger picture

>>591367 i will say he was a real boss by going to kson stream and speaking about it... People will hate him but he owned it. Gunrun is on running for months.

Real shit https://x.com/zentreya/status/1947885756045005147

>>591353 >>591355 >>591367 i'm expecting he does his job and looks after his side of the company, i don't think he was malicious but i just can't see him as a good person, there is no way that with how much talent said were pestering for payments he didn't know about them not being payed and he did NOTHING until things went public, then he says he can change the contracts to help kson and henya literally on the spot, fuck off with this shit

>>591375 Yeah, he’s trying to make it right. He’s also actively doing what he could to protect JP side with contract changes and saving Nova. Gunrun still missing, presumably on a flight to SEA and slow burn his savings on retirement

>>591387 as much as i want to give zen props for this, she's not gonna get him on a call, no chance. I'd love to be proven wrong, but this is just a shot to the air that will end up in nothing.

>>591399 yeah no chance that he or the other fuckheads responsible do anything but communicate in text

>>591399 Gun isn't picking up the phone unless it's from his lawyer.

>>591405 at this point the only thing we will get from vshojo is a lawyer note about it

>>591420 i hope gunrun isn't picking up the phone because he's getting gangraped by a bunch of niggers

Hard to say who I like most from monster girls. Beri spent most of the time crying, tori redebut tomorrow, so obviously Pia is my fav right now but that could change. Who knows.

>>591388 Contracts negotiation were happening before this revelation. He know something wrong on EN side, he try doing the best he can to mitigate (sponsor income directly go thru talents). Mind you, the staff only income thru EN, they don't have any income from other sources (unless they have 2nd job) while the talents only losing revenue from merch and sponsors.

i was reading some saying that because vshojo fucked off with donation money they committed federal crime and the LLC veil with not protect them when the IRS shows up after their money.

>>591438 good, gunrun and MTD should be ruined for life for what they did, MTD maybe less if he only wasted money on parties and useless shit but gunrun should be ruined 1000%

>>591438 that would be nice but there's no guarantee. the good news is that because this situation is so visible and has the support of a lot of creators with a lot of money they'd be happy to put towards legal action, if something can be done then there's a good chance it will be

>>591447 *assuming the money MTD wasted was only the funding from 3rd parties and not talent/charity money

Niggers

750k to IDF now

>>591454 legal eagle representing mouse KEK

>>591474 naggers

>>591479 I'd be surprised if he doesn't cover this on his channel, it might be a while from now but considering he contributed to the auction twice and is aware of online shit it seems like an interesting story

>vshojo could have a world class idol monstergirl gen Fuck I'm crying at how wasted the Vshojo dream became. We'll never get the Vshojo diamond age. How can you fumble this hard....

>>591492 he seems a lot more worried about trump administration many crimes. Must be hard loving the law and watching some retard shitting all over it.

>>591493 someone in half posted a pic from sabas chat. She said something about having things to talk about but was too tired for it. OH MAN CAN YOU IMAGINE?

>>591501 a few months ago he said he was going to try and do some more react and fun stuff like before and other presenters can take on the serious/daily stories. it's still lopsided but he's actually trying so you never know

i guess pheobe was in the idol group with minto

>>591507 This is definitely the biggest fumble in the history of vtubing.

>>591522 gotta be pretty high up in the biggest fumbles in content creation, not just vtubing

This explains Mouse's sponsor week.

>>591528 this is up there with the death of Machinima and MCNs who were that big

i want to wish something awful to happen to gunrun but i cant even formulate a though bad enough to describe how much i want him to suffer

>>591533 What happened again? They urged her to take all those sponsors and took all the money only to still not push anything out?

im going to bed and when i wake up i want no funny surprises you heard me

>>591549 No. She's doing all that to recover the unpaid merch shit

>>591555 i have a feeling they are in fact not going to be "funny" but i also have a feeling there's more suprises

>>591555 Hotaru is streaming in 3 hours so no promises lol

>>591547 last week i came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9R16NV9Imo that what i desire for the people i hate now... Eternal life with no meaning or escape.

>>591555 but you'll miss the saba dockey

>>591573 >the entity only picks intelligent people yeah no way gunrun is getting this treatment no matter if i wish for it or not, it's just unrealistic

>>591609 i'm petty, i'm just want him to get fucked.

I think I'm just gonna wait till mouse streams then ill surf here. my heart and head kinda hurts for everyone but there will be a good thing forthcoming for all those affected, at least i try to believe so

>>591632 Before creation comes destruction

>>591620 I want him to get fucked but also tell us who else screwed up this bad. There are 100% people that deserve getting blasted but couldn't be happier that most people focus on gun.

>>591638 gun is default because he was the boss. MTD probably has some fingers on it too... We will have to wait for the lawyers.

>>591547 Just find someone and do that voodoo doll or something

>>591547 Hope IDF sends him a pager so we could reach him

>>591661 oh i remember an old movie about some guy who run over some gypsy family and he escape justice because he was rich. The survivors curse him to lose weight until he is nothing but bones and skin no matter how much he eats... That would be nice too. Found the trailer... Man 90's trailers were weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4NcET1R-k

I'm watching the Mint thing and holy shit I am PISSED They stole all the money from her merch drop with Mata and the merch store they made for her Everything was going to be SO COOL but they fucked it up!

>>591679 Kek.

>>591129 Hey now, she's Kiara's whore.

>>591692 i want to be kiara whore too...

>>591692 I hope she gets to fulfill her dream some other way.

the sad thing is that now we know why nyan was always weird around mouse after leaving... Sometimes it felt like that kiara stream.

>>591609 honestly with the info about having apparently two full gens oneof which was Mint in an idol group just waiting I've come all the way around to thinking he must be some kind of twisted genius who did this shit deliberately for fun. I though he was an idiot who wasted money and didnt have any way to earn more but this man arranged the creation of an amazing feast didnt eat a single bite and then shit in every dish just to watch our horrified faces and make the chefs cry.

No org

Nagi skinwalker?

>>591753 I wouldn't be surprised if that really is Nagger. She is pretty unity-pilled and loves her senpais.

This is such a shitty situation but it could have been worse. No one has really come up with a credible rrat to blame the girls for this somehow, nor does it seem likely they'll be able to. Everyone got out immediately instead of being forced to stay with the company. Hopefully we can get to know the new girls who never got to debut and they can have some sort of success outside of the company.