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/xvsj+/ - ExVShojo+ General Anonymous 07/23/2025 (Wed) 21:53:12 Id: 2e29c1 No. 593980
New Beginnings Edition Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with VShojo. Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other. Image source: https://x.com/ReiyonKouzen/status/1900716124007719244 /xvsj+/ are: Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot GEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGA Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570 Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan | https://www.youtube.com/@MataraKan Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya Expreshojo are: Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug | https://www.youtube.com/@beribug/ Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee | https://www.youtube.com/@feebeechanchibi/ Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo | https://www.youtube.com/@PiaPIUFO Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane | https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane Related: /lig/ for extended + discussion Previous thread >>589507
Edited last time by goodgirlbeam on 07/23/2025 (Wed) 22:17:19.
first
Rolling for my wife
Henya pantsu color roll!
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>>593991 HEYYY MINTO COLORS
Beri design is so cool
Rolling
Roll
Shit, here we go again.
roll also nagi live
Live
Really why the fuck are you guys bringing the 2023 leavers? It will create so much headaches.
Rolling for my husband
>>594026 Nobody even bothers to shitpost here anymore. Include them.
Yeah, silver should still be banned.
>>594011 Purple retard.
>>594035 your funeral
>>594026 People wanted everyone back in op, so I added everyone. You can still use filter ID, remember that.
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good morning, rolling I expect more news today but less than yesterday. potential bombshell being saba in the idol gen >>593772 if you're talking about the thread on YTD (which is more 'people' than the ex) I reported it and suggest you do as well. you can put in a custom and mention she's been a target for a while. their mods are pretty good with context
Beributt
>>594037 agree, we voted for her to be banned and nothing happened to make me change my mind
>>594050 I didn't see a single person mention wanting silver back.
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>>594056 Really? Nothing? You couldn't give her the benefit of the doubt after Vei revealed that management was pitting them against each other behind the scenes?
>>594061 it also make no sense. They are gone for so long they are basically strangers. People already rarely mentioned nyan
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>including the indie bitches
Insane that people are still baiting in 2025
>>594067 After the way she left with that press conference? no
>>594037 >>594056 >>594061 as the anon who originally requested it I agree. OP didn't poll for it last thread when they should have for a rule change, I'd suggest we do one at some point today to get a majority feel. have a feeling she'll stay banned but it'd be fair to ask again
>>593980 >that fucking image right into feels
>>594075 the solution is easy: report the OP, have it get deleted. As it stands, it's breaking rules
>>594075 Yeah, this isn't half. You don't just make a new thread with some opinionated shit like that. Put it to a vote, at least.
I still think we should just keep the people who was in 2025 plus the expresvshojo. Fuck the people who left in 2023 and fuck nazuna.
>>594043 I'll take it >>594075 I have no problem with adding everyone back since mods here seem decent, but doing a poll first would have been good
>>594081 oh shit i didnt even notice this faggot added nazuna, who unironically came back from abandoning that account just to shit on the talents kek
>>594084 Yeah, I think this whole thread is basically bait. Ban OP and make a new one.
I literally asked what should change in last thread >>593676
just report op for this shitshow. No one asked for this.
>>594068 This is basically a new thread. VSJ+ no longer exists. Some of the recent talent will probably drift apart in the future anyway now that there's nothing keeping them together. But we probably should have done a poll.
>>594087 and no one mentioned adding the indie bitches, let alone nazuna
>>594087 If there's no poll, you just continue as is. rule changes have to be formalized to some degree at least.
>>594079 >>594085 hm it's pretty early so yeah that'd be good can someone do a better bake and migrate >>594087 that aint a poll and half the responses were don't add the 2023s
>>594091 like i said at some point we will need to talk about it but not NOW.
>>594073 >>594074 I'll just keep playing devil's advocate here, you can't imagine how she'd feel with management barking at her. That Mouse is better. Mouse is the one that pulls money in. It only really matters if Mouse is staying, silver is just not worth negotiating with or for and add on to that Mouse seems to have ghosted her? You couldn't empathize with silver with that understanding?
Suspicious as fuck behavior from these totally real xvsj+ anons
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Nagi got oiled yesterday, Naggah gets oiled today Some things never change
>>594090 They literally did >>594087
>>594099 And Ill repeat, you don't just make an opinionated new thread without polling it first.
>>594093 >>594094 >>594095 Majority (with significant amount of post #, keep in mind) said "everyone", do you know what EVERYONE means?
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yeah okay please someone do a bake it's the motherfucker ruining the ex more than it already was fucked 594099
>>594105 Do you know what a poll is?
>>594101 I just hope they at least oil the other girls as well
Pink for my wives froggy, peke, mouse, mei, and nyanners
Guys 🥀
>>594103 where is the fucking poll? You don't change op because you fell like. This is not half
>>594105 oh you're an unironic threadshitter
>>594109 It's a froot and haruka day!!
if you want a shitshow go back to half
>>594112 I'll be honest man I don't give a shit about the OP. Take the indie bitches out if you care so much. Just leave the people who never got to debut so maybe one of the 40 people here will click them.
I reported OP, hopefully the rest of you will join it. No opinionated rule changes for a new thread. Poll it first.
>>594119 YES, it was exactly what we said. Leave the thread as it was and add the people who would join. It was what we were doing since the collapse.
>>594122 already did. Good thing saging is not a rule violation here so we can call for reports
So who told these three this thread existed today
Dudes, if you say EVERYONE please specify it as that. But sure, here is your poll: https://poal.me/o9j6su https://poal.me/o9j6su https://poal.me/o9j6su Next one will be determined by results of this
>>593980 refresh, goofballs
>>594106 I'm just trying to have a discussion, man.
>>594134 no, we know there's at least one threadshitter here right now who might bot, that's why the mod did one in such a short timeframe months ago. any poll at this exact moment is suspect so we need to wait
The 2013 leavers dont want anything to do with the XVSJ talents and vice versa. Wholesome and cool girls only no mean girls allowed.
>>594134 Not enough granularity, imo. I'm fine with Nyan and Vei, but not Silver and Nazuna. They invite too much bait.
Lmao i can't with this shit bro 🤣
>>594145 People have been posting all of them except Silver harmlessly for years. Keyfags were insane but they disappeared when she left and then she slaughtered her goslings later.
>>594145 im not fine with anyone of them. Vei and Nazuna just utter vshojo's name to shit on it Silver mightve moved on herself but her name just invites infinite threadshitting Nyanners doesn't even talk about vshojo, at all, hell, at that point we'd add aethel instead
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>>594136 oh I didn't notice, thank you OP IS FIXED, return to normal please
Oh, damn. Mods can modify posts here? Truly next gen. Sorry for not running a poll last thread, I thought asking regulars would be better as it is rather than "botting" poll.
You guys are not real jesus Christ
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>>594154 you're on thin ice buddy thank the vols they actually have tools and the will to use them
>>594152 VShojo is gone, it blew itself up because it actually was a shitshow. So why should I care that they shit on it? >Nyanners doesn't even talk about vshojo Talked all about it yesterday.
>>594159 I don't think I did anything wrong.
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AmaLee just released a Your Idol cover youtu.be/8vzmBJGYZ3k
>>594161 go talk about them in half. We don't want to talk about them here. Simple
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Time for Beri, also since Mint wa/is vshojo.. gonna post sloppa of her butt. Nvm, I just realize I barely have any. Don’t want to post one of her eating dick
>>594161 yesterday after how long before yesterday the only time she'd mention vshojo or anything related to it would be because aethel brings it up
>>594167 that's a real cute minto
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>>594167 just spoil it mate give me those dick munching sloppas
Gunrun wasn't even a real backpack merchant? Fucking poser.
>>594167 plese post a lot of Mint lewds, she's so hot
>>594175 fucker had us fooled for years, unbelievable
The guy with 17 subs has worn on me because he keeps spamming it. Drop it once as a flex then move on dude.
>>594167 i really like that art some dude made of him fucking her ass... Top grade art.
>>594090 >>594093 How is this thread more toxic about it than the 4chan one
>>594185 Because the 4chan users found it
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>>594173 Only have these, I think I saved it because it’s hilarious to me. Pls haunt me Minto
>>594185 Being called a threadshitter over this is kind of wild, honestly.
A new thread, a semi-new day. How are we feeling today? >>594164 Nice
>>594185 Some anons here are terminally paranoid
>>594181 This one? He makes really good vtuber porno yeah.
>>594204 you can post the whole thing... But yeah, This shit was hot
>>594182 new name for gunrun
>>594081 Again, I'm with this anon
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i just open nagi tab and got hit with a sub... KEK
>we coulda had cute minto bag for plushies man my frontal lobe cant take any more anger
>>594213 she's been live for 36 minutes saying arigatou thank you so much abababa
>>594218 oh no this is SO cute. I really hope she can release this some day
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Hotaru schedule, late stream https://www.youtube.com/shorts/piXfpb0HqUE
Beri is really bad at this kek
>new thread >100 posts already lol some of you guys really need to chill out
>>594218 i can't get over the fact she was in vshojo but they never debutted her. Fuck gunrun and the incompetent staff. I wonder if everyone else knew about it, mouse, zen, henya...
>>594218 also, wish that vtubers made more products like these. slightly more stealth merch but still unique, mouse's bubi bags come to mind. I'd also like more home goods since I don't go out a ton, fangamer is great inspiration for how unique and interesting you can go with them
Thank you goodgirlbeam (I'm guessing a mod/janitor) Love ya
>>594241 Just some inane faggots whining about the old leavers (who likely left because they already got fed up with being fucked over by Gun but who cares reeeeeee remove them from OP reeeeeeeee)
>>594260 oh they're one of the most active vols yes
>>594241 No org, but we got streams rn buddy. Finally.
>>594260 imagine... real moderation.
>>594260 The mod that initially conducted the poll for the Silver Question.
>>594262 It's more so about that one silver ritual poster who shat up threads in half for YEARS. We don't need that here.
>>594268 the final solution KEK
Nagi wants to play apex with Froot soon
>>594274 SOMEONE WAKE UP THE LICH
>>594266 streams and the org collapsed in 24 hours, it's not a surprise that we're active. I wasn't here for like a month but so much is going on and the mood is cheerier than expected so it helps keep the chin up
>>594193 Sorry bro
>>594262 i didn't expect this kind of reaction to this, i was one of the people answered to add everyone >>594271 you realize you can just block ids here?
>>594271 Yup, tried and done. Leave that in ex.
>>594271 Sure. But do you want to ban people who post fat vei *waddles in*? The vast majority of posts about everyone else were harmless.
>>594285 You realize switching IDs is not that hard, right?
>>594275 let the girl sort his legal out, she was the very last member to find out about all of this and is very late on her legal proceedings
>>594293 click 🚫, click filter id, i win
>>594292 Nah, I don't care about those. I don't like Vei much, it's more about thread quality overall. Silver just leads to too much baiting.
So if this whole thing did go to court, wouldn't real names have to be revealed?
>>594293 I can imagine it already. >im on mobile ok? >not all (1)s are antis >you’re just schizo and the loop/ useless meta talk fills the space.
>>594292 no one post it here anon... The rare fatvei opening shop but that's it.
>>594310 and we have seen all 3 of these already, sometimes one after the other by the same person kek the solution is to just truly call them out once, report if necessary and then Filter ID+
>>594308 Privacy can be maintained.
>>594308 i'm almost sure lawyers can ask it to run in secret. That's why niji fucked big time by showing secret court documents.
>>594318 Only if the judge allows it.
>>594308 i mean, for sure, they owe pretty much everyone money
I dont like these meta talk tbh
>>594326 Correct, it is possible.
Nagi is watching the new Ama cover
Beri kinda reminds me of Doki, but less tomboyish
>>594331 The company is quite literally dead. It's all going to be meta talk
>>594331 There's 4 streams you can post about, soon to be 5 when Tori goes live
I do not care for any of the would have been new hires. Only minto.
and mouse can show up anytime... So... 6
>>594347 Its ok you can talk about mint here
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>>594343 Beri is going to stop so she doesn't overlap Tori's debut
>>594361 Monster unity. Man I thought Tori model wasn’t done tho, I forgot if she’s going chibi for now or not. Either way we can see the design/name I guess
>>594368 Chibi design of her upcoming model (Cluseller)
>>594347 she was a member for an entire year which is just fucking wild to say
>>594343 If it isn't Hime, I DON'T FUCKING WANT IT.
>Beri talking about Asanagi and ahegao hoodies The degenerate in me is smiling
>>594339 I thought the same thing, she has a super Asian voice and laughs constantly.
https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyqpo7GIgdU Nagi ending soon too, but she's going to go live again later
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Sonch
>>594339 She reminds me of Gigi from Hololive
now i remember mata talked about rose and how she was the only one she still talked from niji... Hm...
>>594308 I'm already here but switching IDs to say unfortunately it's already on the internet. At least it's not super public but now without VShojo it might be harder to get off of Google searches like before.
>>594379 She needs to leak the cluseller ref sheet of the proper model… give someone things(2) to look forward to
Tori is live for her "vshojo" debut
>harpy girl kino
>>594405 iirc she cut off her gen because she didn’t like hearing ongoing drama from the girls. Rose probably just talk about cute clothes and desserts
>>594412 >>594419 So what's her story again? I saw some people saying she graduated from someone else? Or something? It seemed complicated
>>594423 and she is not wrong... A certain british guy is lucky that a certain latina can only blow up his phone with messages...
>>594427 She was Maeve Kagekiri from V&U
>>594427 That’s phoebe, Tori was the student who sank 5 figures into debut/model and put off her post-grad studies. I think.
>>594427 she's an ex VNU. That company had also collapsed i think? but she's 0-2 for shit corpos basically
LMAO
clueseller tetas
Ok switching from Beri, since no raid and overlapping. Tori time.
Tori fucking exploded bros
She’s fucking dead
ok we have our first confirmed dead talent
is she youtube only?
Beri raiding Tori
>>594182 Beri getting in
>>594478 dual streaming
damn this is a screenshottable face
pink thing
I feel like she'd bounce like a beach ball
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what a chubby face
>>594486 thanks dudd
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Body kinda low res
I lost my momo plushie in my house. I dont know where the fuck it went
>>594500 It left
i am back to dooming after watching geega's vod. they knew about the idol gen but not the monster girl gen. geega sounded skeptical if they were even real and with how introverted and isolating the members already are, i have a feeling the monster girls are gonna be forgotten or ignored by the ex vshojo girls. geega said she'll collab with feebee because they've been friends for a while before feebee even joined. god please prove me wrong. please, ex vshojo girls hang out with them...
man if these girls had debuted and them mint... Vshojo would probably buy 6 more months. The worst thing is that gunrun is rich that motherfucker.
Design was done in February, debut should've been in March
>supposed to debut in march and then got endlessly pushed back I hope someone's noting this shit down
>>594508 Probably not. It's gonna be like the JP hires. They are flesh blood with no existing chemistry. Vshojo was never like that nepohires be damned.
>>594500 Get another from Mata, she has a lot
>>594508 There's nothing to even doom about anymore
>>594511 it's already been said multiple times now over the past couple days
>>594510 >>594511 Yeah Pia talked about it, it was March (which they thought was too fast), so changed to summer, then Oct? Then Jan 2026, last update was like March 2026 (lol)
>>594508 that's just geega though and she's forever pessimistic. I think zen will make an effort, probably michi too
>>594508 There are no strings attached, remember.
we would get a souls game girl... Gunrun, hope irs get your ass
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Based inspiration
>>594508 Mouse is following all the would-be members on twitter and Pia made it very obvious she wants to collab with Zen and i'm sure Zen would be more than happy to accept >>594505 Oh she's even supposed to be some kind of fairy
>>594533 zen never says no to new kidnapping victims
She was streaming Elden Ring speedrun to staff members
I’m still pretty depressed from everything but this Tori seems nice, I can’t lie I feel really bad for these girls that got robbed of their debuts. I hope the bigger talents can collab with them and help them out a little.
MOUSE IN ONE HOUR!
>>594517 i know vshojo the corp is gone, but i was just hoping that by some miracle the newcomers would still be included with everyone whenever they still hang out. but im starting to think that will no longer happen and thus i am dooming about how unity would never be restored and is dead
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She has some great emotes
@everyone im nervous and scared and worried about being live... but i will stream tonight at around 8:30 pm et. i cant talk about anything other than what i mentioned in the video i posted so there will be no other information shared. i wish i could. like i said i promise that as soon as i can speak about things i will tell you guys everything. for now lets just have a fun charity stream with singing and chatting. i will try to be live as long as i can before i am unable. i love you guys. thank you for being so patient with me. @everyone also music box of fate music video drops tomorrow
>still trying to be respectful Ok, I like this girl's style even if Vshojo as a company rightfully should be mocked at any opportunity
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>>594508 Geega's statements were honestly pretty callous. She started of the discussion by saying she told the company not to hire them because they couldn't be successful, "watch or support them if you want, whatever, don't be a tourist", and concluded by basically saying they weren't real members. I know this isn't what she meant but it's the way it came off. Geega has to be in a pretty dark place right now. I know she's always kinda like that but she was extra cunty today. Hopefully she can chill out at some point and not look at everything through such a pessimistic angle.
>>594568 I'm surprised it is so soon. I wish Mouse luck this will probably be on of her hardest streams.
>>594581 I mean the vshojo girls were probably expecting people they knew.
>>594581 i couldn't even listen to all that self jerkoff today, saving the company by joining it, my ass. just closed the stream and watched beri instead
>>594566 You know, I get it it’s sad, really. But there’s no reason for unity anymore. The company is gone, and all the talent has left. Geega didn’t even know about the Monster Girl gen. It’s a lot to ask from each talent when they didn’t have prior interaction. I wish them well, and I hope they succeed tho But honestly, if I’m being realistic, everyone will move on sooner or later. And yeah, that’s sad but that’s life. You don’t have to worry about them, though. I know everyone will succeed in their own way.
>>594581 the fact that maiko and panini have reached out to these girls disproves geega, fuck her and her saviourfag grandstanding pettiness she can't even save her own fucking career post gtaspam, let alone a sinking company
>me when i lose 5 grand
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>>594581 Man I just remembered the days when her pc is so shit and can’t play games, and she literally sang her frustrations away on stream after a hour. Good memories, always love her singing
Wonder how the reception would have been if the leaked talents were Ari, Mei, and Froggy kek. Dodged a bullet.
>>594621 Oops, wrong link. Meant to reply Mouse’s discord message. Anways, what’s with Tori’s oshi mark. da rose?
>>594581 Yeah she really pissed me off today. "Not real members" is what did it. They were literally signed, Geega you dumb idiot And it all came off as haughty "too small to be within my notice" shit
Aaaaaand another hype train for Naggah
Tori decided against changing her name after all
>>594634 geega is butthurted anon...
>cluseller model Prepare thine pants
I will have to come clean, I am the creator of this edit #geegahate
>>594647 So it's a love hate kind of relationship?
This model is just something she rushed for her debut, her real model is still being worked on by Clueseller >>594601 she couldn't even save herself from her GTA addiction
>>594634 Did she really say they aren’t real members? Pic related
>oshi mark is 🥀 Big chungus are you Tori?
>>594666 its zoomer speak to use 🥀
>>594634 >And it all came off as haughty "too small to be within my notice" shit It's a wild difference from when she was on that stream with Zen and Mata last year encouraging smaller vtubers to apply. Feels like even if they got the chance to actually debut with vshojo while Geega was still there before everything went to complete shit, she'd completely ignore their existence once the initial debut hype wore off
Man we really missed on 3 high energy members that could've filled the dead hours, but looking back the lack of streams was probably because everyone was too depressed and stressed by their situation with the lack of payments on top of the regular illnesses >>594656 cluseller*
>>594680 anon... Geega ignored even zen. It was so hard to take her from rp to do things. Remember that time they were having some event and geega was playing rp on the other tab? She is crazy and it seems she doesn't understand that people don't like to watch this shit.
>>594663 she didn't straight up say they aren't 'real members' but went on a yap about how they knew the idol gen was a thing and don't know what is 'real' and what is not as she said she literally doesn't know anything about them and never heard anything about a monster girl gen. she had a blip where she was like anyone can say anything, implying bandwagoners, and was questioning how real this monster girl gen is but then said 'well hopefully they stick together, watch and support them or whatever, don't be a tourist'.
>>594694 And I've seen posts flying up everywhere now calling them frauds. Despite it being confirmed by actual staff members Good job, geega
>>594694 It seems even gunrun didn't knew who they were... He knew about the gen but didn't even bother to met them during offkai
>>594702 >geegooners being retards just like geega kek
Reference sheet of the full model
Model design
these girls would be big... And i was wrong, there was really good 2~3 viewers to be saved but not zen friends.
>>594723 Im gonna be honest a good chunk of plusses are as good as these people. I don't understand the hype. I would have been excitded for these as much as if it was Ari
>>594723 Watch Zen kidnap them and then take credit for their rise.
>>594732 the point was to prove we could raise talents. Guess it had gone to shit now
>>594734 I mean if that happens and no other vshojo bothers to help them then it would kinda be because of zen
>>594694 What I'm talking about was later. It wasn't "they're not real members" but it was close, something like "I don't consider them members". I get that she doesn't want to affect some comradeship with people she didn't know until yesterday but it was a cold, callous assessment of people who were victimized by the company.
>>594693 I don't have it but >kuro_mouse_geega's_minecraft_bridge.mp4
>>594732 Ari is my favorite + >>594752 I gotchu fam
>>594771 i remember someone making a joke about her play rp during one collab and she got VERY pissed. KEK
>>594732 Who you would have wanted then saba?
>>594771 I like Ari. >>594782 Anybody? I just don't understand shitting on plusses.
>>594771 Blessed Mousey laugh
>>594780 Because she was literally caught doing exactly that.
Tori's model was made by Blair Labri.
>>594793 And she has the balls to say that vshojo could not raise anyone numbers... Bitch you literally decimated your fanbase with gtarp and banned anyone that complained.
Didnt know Tori has a Twitch channel
>>594771 god kuro and mouse interactions are so peak. also as time has gone on I've found that pudding has snuck up to just below wonderland for my favourite model. wish the rigging wasn't so bad because the art is amazing
>>594718 tits too small
schedule
>>594836 and this dumbass just leaked her VShojo name
SOOOO... i was checking half (yeah yeah my bad). Can anyone explain me the sayu thing? I'm confused about why it even matter...
>>594836 KEK dumbass
>>594820 it's cluseller, he gonna buff it up.
>>594842 Funny but doesnt matter much since tori is staying and vshojo an hero'd
>>594842 What was it?
>>594855 look the top of her schedule
>>594855 its right on the screenshot, on top of it
>>594855 It’s at the top. Probably better to keep Tori, not exactly sure how to pronounce that
Yeah Tori is better
>>594861 elise - farer?
>>594818 Yeah that model is amazing, I wish she used it more, I especially like it with the dark hair + tanned skin kinda sad we didn't have any dark skinned members among the new girls Also Mouse + Kuro + Michi was one of my favorite collab groups, I really hope they stick together >>594750 >I get that she doesn't want to affect some comradeship with people she didn't know until yesterday She probably don't want to be forced to collab or interact with them just for the sake of unity which I can understand to some degree but yeah if this is how she worded it that's kind of harsh >>594785 On top of Papa some people don't like the "new" plusses like Nostro or Sigrid who bullied Mei on Zen's stream to the point of making her leave
>>594843 Sayu met with Gun, she wanted him to hire her and she said she wanted to get a "group of nijis to quit and debut as a new Vshojo gen", Gun said yeah sounds good, then when she got the boot from Niji and was dragged through the mud she reached back out and he all but ghosted her.
>>594883 that was not a bullet but a fucking atomic bomb we dodged.
>>594890 zen needs an erotic healing massage.
<im sorry im gonnna need half an hour more i hope thats ok. so 9pm et
>>594890 Talk to a therapist or your dogs zen, how do geckos not be an anxious mess with her constant vague posting
>>594909 is there anything to be anxious about anymore?
>>594909 Not exactly vague. She deleted the context though
>>594883 She went on stream and leaked a message of Silver saying she wanted her to join. I think she was the person Geega was talking about with "tangentially-related people latching onto the situation". Sayu is a real mess, I don't hate her but she's like one step below michael cat on the menhera scale.
>>594912 well if hear some of her OLD stories... YEAH...
>>594916 >blocked snuffy >wanted sayu... Man
>>594883 >>594902 Mind you Gun took her idea and tried to run with it anyways since even that faggot Quinn said he was approached by Gunrun while he was still in niji about joining vshojo only to get told they changed their minds after he was indie
>>594921 I have no idea who suggested kyo to them... NO ONE liked that faggot.
>>594913 Justified for feeling that way, but it’s common not weird. She’s literally on a platform that encourages it via monetization
Whoever unknown was supposed to be in monstergirl gen should reveal herself already
Tori feels kinda guilty about being a "fraud" or being a grifter exploiting the vshojo name, I hope this is not because of something Geega said, this is the same kind of mentality that led moose's impostor syndrome >>594923 Henya is shy but she can also be really bold and based sometimes
>>594928 gunrun is so evil that he is even decluttering the undesirables for Niji by bait and switch… jfc
>>594916 Sayu's a complete menhera, but if this was before she went to Niji, I could see how Silver wanted her in since I can't recall any bad things about her prior to Niji. It was only after the shit she went through with Niji and the insane Nijisisters hard-doxxing her that she kinda became a nutcase of issues.
>>594941 augh she should be loud and proud, she got in fair and square and deserves the chance to be seen
>>594941 If geega mentally fucked these girls after what theyve been through I will be beyond livid
>>594941 >geega The Nepohire are calling out others about grifting KEK
I’m actually looking forward to Pia’s next stream, I like her
>>594960 no one was a nepo hire >>594968 she needs to drop the insane overlay though, can't tell you how many vtubers I've dropped because of visual clutter and empty space
>>594980 this anon would not survive 2020 mouse
>>594984 yeah, but its not 2020 anymore
>>594984 agreed, I started watching her end of 2022. it's not just the overlay though, I don't think I'd have had the patience for some of the vocabulary she used to use or the direction of her old content. love her to bits now though, it feels genuine
>>594984 He probably could, got nowhere to escape to in 2020
(didn't properly quote the posts) >>594950 >>594951 >>594960 I don't know exactly what is it that Geega said or if Tori was even lurking in her stream so take what I said with a grain of salt, i'm just making retarded assumptions
>>594980 >overlay It was something that was ok with her smaller audience. But after her december concert and this it's been getting crazy with more viewership
>>595006 some of mouse old clips are awful. There was a LOUD ass sound every time someone followed her.
>tummy hort >insomnia Michi #2
Um, you guys weren’t kidding about Tori being a souls girl
>>595020 she said herself KEK
Pia live
Too many streams or-
and she has the gall to call others grifters kek
Is Tori Asian? If so it would be an Asian gen
>>595058 😐 Does that mean she knew about how fucked everything was for all the members regarding the payments? Is she trying to pin responsibility on herself or something? Ahh whatever i'm going to bed
What's with the Geega hate today
>>595085 Vshojo astroturfing.
>>595085 geega saying retarded stuff that are fueling haters
>>595085 Geega opened her mouth and tried to sound intelligent
>>595085 She was being her usual know-it-all self
Just noticed this Pia chick has insanely large milkers
>>595085 I too don’t like her, but I don’t randomly hate. I just watch streams instead. I do like lewding her though, I was genuinely pissed when she left because my lewds became ones of a plus
>>595115 There's a points redeem on twitch to change her tit size. Cuz she's a slime
>>595115 i mean being a slime girl without huge tits is a crime
>>595085 we don't like that an anonymous image board where people are routinely rude for fun is being more supportive to a small streamer who passed a vetting process of hundreds of valid applicants fair and square than someone supposedly mature and kind who was going to be their peer
>>595120 She needs to collab with Mel on notwitch…
>>595085 Eh, it's a bit overblown. She just didn't know anything about most of the new hires, so doesn't feel particularly attached to them. I probably wouldn't either, if I had never interacted with them.
I'll be honest Tori kinda voice filters me. Oh well.
You know, geega is just like asmongold except less right-lean. They both love talking about something they don't know and pretend they do
>>595130 now this is overboard
>>595128 Definitely weakest of the three, she’s a backup watch for me until I see that cluseller drop or seeing her gaming/actual content
Geega does exhibit a bit of pratesoftware-esque narcissist behavior, just not nearly as bad. I still find her pretty entertaining when she doesn't yap about or play GTA.
>>595133 i... hmmm WHAT?
>>595134 Its true she has an overinflated ego of herself. Always talking about how's she's some Hotspot business person and software pro. She is the one who tanked her own numbers with GTARP and lowers her metrics even more by making a NONGEEGA account. She is not as smart as she thinks she is and its time for ego to be popped.
Nagi raided Geega, she said she sent her a supportive message yesterday
>>595130 ok now this is too much. She at least has credentials to talk about shit, and fucking bathes. Geega's problem is that she has an unchecked ego and hates admitting she can be wrong sometimes.
Mouse live.
my girlfriend is live
>>595156 nice. Time to feast
pia's stream is a bit of a sensitive overdrive
>>595144 Her acting like the vshojo community doesn't exist when she just alienated the shit out of them by only playing GTA and admitting no wrong is one of the biggest examples of geega's narcissism.
Mouse live, btw.
>>595164 oh yeah, she saying that "vshojo" didn't helped her numbers. Motherfucker, you kiled your numbers.
>>595163 It's not usually this bad. Her setup is not designed for this many people
>>595167 Don't get me wrong, I do think she's quite intelligent and I do fairly often agree with her opinions on stuff, but she absolutely can't admit that she's wrong when she fucked up.
>>595163 Is this a meme I don't know or did you mean sensory overload
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>>595178 i am esl gomenne
>>595177 she is smart but not very intelligent... My teacher used to say something like this to my brother.
>>595130 >Less Buddy, she's a New Yorker. New York hasn't been red since Nixon, and hasn't had a Republican Mayor since Bloomberg switched parties in 2007, and a governor since 2006 when Pataki dropped. Deep blue for 20 years running minimum.
It still feels surreal Mouse is an indie now
Pia has a nice vocal range
>>595185 the indie queen
>>595185 It is a weird feeling.
>>595182 It's "sensory overload", in case you wanted to know.
>>595185 Ironmouse from Independent.
>>595190 Oh it's a voice changer redeem kek.
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>>595185 you will be seeing >henya from independent >kuro from independent >michi from independent etc...
Dooby streaming rn >Dooby talked to Henya about the situation >Wasn't reached out to by Vshojo and she hadn't reach out to them >Actually considered approaching Gunrun at one point because getting help with merch etc sounded appealing Time to watch mouse now that she's live
it's amazing, she will not being burden by vshojo fuck ups anymore.
>>595200 Mata needs to pay for starting this
fml gtg, catch you later mouse.
>>595204 (me) also WTF it forever for that post to be sent
Phish in chat
9min and already at 11k. yeah, we're getting 30k+ today. maybe even 40k
>>595206 blame numi... She was the one who started "zentreya from vshojo".
>>595204 it kinda baffles me how most /in/posting was outright true or a high posibility
>>595221 man if they had hired competent people instead of retards vshojo would be crazy profitable right now.
>>595204 Imagine if VShojo had been about hiring cute girls instead of paying off a bunch of retarded manchildren six figures by stealing the girls' money
>>595227 imagine if vshojo was led by competent people instead of a snake oil seller and a faggot who hosted LA orgies with the talents' money
Dooby streaming rn >Dooby talked to Henya about the situation >Wasn't reached out to by Vshojo and she hadn't reach out to them >Actually considered approaching Gunrun at one point because getting help with merch etc sounded appealing
The way Pia's redeems work is pretty retarded. I have never watched her stream before and chat is already suggesting I do them with my whopping 500 channel points.
>>595204 >>595242 yeah, someone already copy and pasted from half
>>595244 Because she raised the prices to try to slow down spam
>>595242 did you just repost my post...in the place where the post came from?
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>pia and peke have met and they're going to a maid cafe together ok pia you're my fave
>>595242 HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLY FUCKING RETARD
Mouse speaks
Fuck me I'm going to cry aren't I.
Somebody just dropped 50 on Pia on both Twitch and Youtube. I don't think that happens a lot on her streams.
>Pia met Peke and Mel Hopes for a future collab has increased
hope mouse removed waifujam from her playlist, would be kinda crazy to hear her say "Vshojo is my fiesta till i fucking die" on this stream lmao
>immediately into sound alert spam I'm glad she's laughing, at least.
and the first ttsfaggot hit the tower
>TTS on so it could get worse
>>595280 One of the few times where I'm fine with the tts/sound alert spam. Made her stop crying and laugh instead.
Don't miss the sound alerts but honestly I'll take anything over Mouse being sad over the org
background without vshojo branding, artists are sure working fast
I feel like Twitch should remove the Gunrun emote
ill make an exception for this one time
But I also hope she turns it off soon
>pia stream filled with obnoxious redeems >switch to mouse >they are also spamming every sound alert
>>595285 yeah sound alerts are fine but tts is gonna be so bad if she keeps it
her face during the transition was looking so sad... But this is better now
21k for a somewhat regular stream is crazy
They're oiling the shit out of Mouse. I forgot how addictive this is, I miss subathon.
>>595302 Nothing about this is regular
>>595302 >21k for a somewhat regular stream Not exactly a regular stream considering it's Mouse's first stream after y'know, everything that's happened the past 2 days
>>595302 It's not somewhat regular, it's after the biggest drama of the year (centered on her) and it's not that crazy. Also Lily raid now
>>595311 >>595314 >>595316 I mean a non special event but fair MOUSE TURN THEM OFF
Oh hey, nyan is still a mouse mod
>>595323 yeah, nyan just refused to show up
>>595287 wait, i'm stupid, it's just zoomed in
music is a bit loud, but I guess that's just mouse for you
Mouse isn't going to be talking about it because of the lawsuit. Hopefully she at least highlights the new hires.
mouse <crazy day huh <cant say anything other than the video posted <nano second after getting the green light, she will spill the chocy milk
>>595384 >new hires No one is hired
>>595384 no chance she does that
NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>595271 uh oh
>>595271 its done
>>595404 Skippa skippa
her face when she finally noticed KEK
the speed of the train holy fuck no wonder her shit is crashing. it's subathon speed
<what the fuck is a treasure train >chat immediately disappears because people are gifting so quickly
>>595271 sometimes I wonder what r0xxy actually does as a job
this is like the final minutes of the subathon, maybe a bit less
Holy fuck it's already at level 35 and climbing rapidly
Tori watched Geega stream
>>595424 basically everything which is why sometimes she'll miss things
What if Mouse made her own corpo?
>>595433 You're shitting me. For real? I thought the hate was getting out of control but if you're not bullshitting me it explains a lot.
>>595441 that is how vshojo started
>>595435 That just means either she's not fit for the job or she needs another person on top of r0xxy to help her out.
>>595441 It sounds like the storybook solution but let's be honest, it would fuck up worse than VShojo somehow.
no thank you for sinder... Tsk
>>595446 I mean what if Mouse owned it
>even bao donated I didn't think she held Bao in THAT high of a regard, not to say I thought she was irrelevant but Bao's always been in that "big indie but not massive" (heh) circle to me
LETS GOOO WHITE BOY
>>595454 >come back from hiatus >call Bao a broke bitch >refuse to elaborate
>>595478 she meant plasma though that would be hilarious
>>595464 Yeah and? I'm not shitting on her Tori said after the part where Geega mention that they didn't even met them I WANTED TO MEET THEM TOO GIRL
oops another skip
>>595454 she meant that she donated plasma, look at her twitter
>>595256 tf even vsj staff didn’t know vgen, how did they come to meet?
<wtf <is that number right <is that subcount right
>>595515 the wide eyes after was great
>>595454 You are mentally ill
>>595518 I barely missed it kek What's Mouse's hype train record btw?
>>595143 Getting ahead of the "HOLOLIVE BLACK COMPANY CONTRACT LEAK" that is going to come up, or perhaps the "DEMONDICE WAS PLANNING TO LEAVE FOR VSJ" that has been going around in the wake of everyone coming out and admitting they had talks with VSJ and were at least considering it.
PURPLE YURI LOVE
>>595530 That's not yuri that's dinner.
>>595515 Honestly I don’t number much, it’s like what? 13.5kish normally?
>>595530 that's a cat eating pussy
>>595537 meant for >>595532
>>595535 It was at 7k when stream started
I fucking laugh my ass off every time. >Thank you for supporting the girls. >And Kuro.
Extremely Rare Nova mention!
and there go... Mouse knows about them
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>>595500 peke is just like that
>>595546 wow that’s low, but I guess she’s been missing for a while
>>595557 Mouse gets a lot (often a majority) of her subcount from oilers and if there's no streams there's no time to oil.
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>>595546 50k of stolen merch money recovered in an hour
>>595557 It's tripled.
I got a gifted nice, thanks oilers
>(1)
... i just imagined. Mouse, zen and the girls showing up on court using their models...
karaoke tonight
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fuck yea karaoke this stream, first in a while lets goooo >>595569 same, first since last subathon
>>595577 henya <yes your honor dayo, vshojo didnt pay my merch payment, dayo. <they didn't send my anniversary merch too dayo.
>>595605 imagine henya making kettle noises while doing the oath because she gets anxious
>>595605 <and now they want their visa, dayo
>>595605 >judge:you need to speak up ms Henya. you’re mumbling to yourself, I can’t hear you
>>595613 kek yeah.
Oh, fuck she said RANT. I thought she said she had a rrat. I was going to explode.
She's segueing into a discussion of the Grok vtuber
>>595622 i was waiting for this rant since the last discord stream. YOU HAVE NO IDEA
What's her record?
>>595645 In the 70s? I think.
>>595617 <louder kettle noises.
>>595617 <im sorry chat, ah fuck, ah gomennasei, judge-san. (kettle screaming)
i can only imagine how confused mouse lawyer is right now KEK
She doing a model debut tonight?
Singing next, and Connor will be on stream at some point
>>595183 You can be smart but lack wisdom. Which applies perfectly for GEEGA.
>>595688 She’s excited for the bloodbourne model that she couldn’t use is all. Marathon delayed due to all this shit
ahhh... I missed her so much
ooo she sounds really good today
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such lovely voice
and…I’m crying
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I love her so much.
Vell pushing to break the hype train record
>>595718 I don't think she finds it very amusing.
Why do so many lyrics just apply to mouse, sadge
current sub record, kinda crazy but honestly not impossible, kinda unlikely imo
FUCK
God this is subathon all over.
starting to cry but push through is what always gets me
what a crazy day lol
>>595744 i have dodged them all sadge
>>595737 Spiritually it kind of is considering what its for
FUCK man...
first time song on stream hell yeah. it's good for her range too
>>595744 Damn, nice. I’m missing Pia. I wonder how long I have to be in the stream before clicking out to still participate in the lottery
>>595756 Like one minute, it happened to me before with Vedal
>>595734 It's extremely unlikely. She has an okay chance to beat her own record though.
It kinda hurts to see mouse cry like this, but I prefer it to seeing her quiet and sad everyday. Like I hope this is cathartic to her just letting it out
>>595773 I hope we can see the days when she isn't crying constantly and be happy like she used to be. Probably take a year atleast.
Yes, I stole this. I'm just shocked that Atrioc of all people has a personal interest in this. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2520790813?t=1858s
dummy keeps singing relevant songs so of course she's gonna cry
>>595804 Is that the guy that made Get to work?
Chat just funded a trip to Vexpo for Pia, they are setting a new hype train record
>>595792 I’m not worried about mouse tbh, she’s a strong rat with a strong support system. I worry for Henya and Michi
>>595810 Involved in it, yes
>>595804 Not saying Gun is clean but I think there are more hands in this and he lost control at one point But since hes the face of staff hes taking all the heat IMO Apek and MTD should share some of the blame as well
>>595804 Atrioc the gooner?
>>595818 Henya might work with JP staff, Nova is trying to. Michi has Maiko, but apparently he's expensive.
>>595830 Those who were wronged forgave him and he employed Henya briefly. All is forgiven.
>>595832 henya is at least keeping mamane
>>595832 JP Staff sounds like really great people according based on what NOVA and Mint said. I really hope they can either find new jobs or continue to be like a hired staff for all the JP talents. Phoebe hinted that Mint's idol group debut may still be possible but they need time.
>>595841 also he worked on taking down a lot of the deep fakes sites and till this day hes still working on that shit I believe
>>595850 Which inadvertently assisted in removing vtuber dox as well.
>>595856 Wait you were being serious?
>>595829 The Marc banker dude people found on linkedin need to answer for sure. And whoever the ex-cover doxxing retard is. No clue why they hired some shithead that a Japanese company let go of, I thought they never fire people lol
>>595857 Yeah. He mentioned it in the second update video. Main focus was obviously the deepfake stuff, but the system ended up working really well for removing vtuber dox as well.
>>595804 nothing shocking, he knew him personally. Surely it's not JUST Gunrun, but I do need a face to hate, and until he comes out of hiding with explanation - he is liable for what was happening in his company.
<apparently MIT is real
>>595832 Pia got raided by Bao. Good to see the big indie recognition.
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bakushin
Bro what the fuck I just tune back into Tori and I hear a bunch of farting
>>595945 Went to the bathroom, she said earlier than when she was started the stream she took a fat shit and the mic wasn't on to let us hear. So they did noises with TTS
Here is the video Mouse is talking about https://youtu.be/0RaLcRfsPiE?si=JLuO78DDRIGL_5YE&t=1283
HENYA TOMORROW!
Yeah this is basically like a mini subathon stream. Fucking based, just what we needed.
So basically, they recruited 2 Koreans (beribug and Tori, who I assume is korean due to V&U) and 1 Japanese(Pia) for EN VShojo. They hired a white girl (Mint) and a chinese(Phoebe) for JP Idol? Very interesting choice, not that I'm against it.
>>595964 she collabing with her 2morrow? i just pissed
>>595964 >btw in case if you are wondering i am streaming tomorrow dayo~! >no crying! just fun! DAYO! so i hope i can see you guys in there dayo! >ちなみに明日は配信あります!くよくよせず楽しい配信するぞ~!
>>595968 i mean nova has a kiwi, so it wouldnt be the first time
>>595971 no, just herself
>>595978 oh ok!
>>595977 Wonder if Hestia is a white blonde kiwi or a Chinese/Singaporean Australian.
>>595983 <He doesn't know
>>595957 >she said earlier than when she was started the stream she took a fat shit and the mic wasn't on to let us hear. That's pretty much peak halfchan /ringo/ content right there
it's in record range
Record break coming, Mouse afk
>>595957 Better be careful. Once you go scattuner there's no going back. They will hunt you to the ends of the earth.
>>595983 the info kinda mumble jumble, but she is a Chinese descendant living in Australia, but now working in Singapore.
>>595990 She stood up from the chair to go to pee and made fart noises, this girl ain't so alright in the head LMAO
There it is.
Mouse back. I kinda wish TTS was on.
>>595961 be honest, watching comment section talking about trump and vshojo at same time is kinda hilarious.
>>596012 She's my kind of retard. But, she does that too often she's gonna end up attracting genuine fart/scatfags to her
>>596022 Never wish again.
>>596027 >>596031 What is only typicalidiotfan could send TTS
its over
I love Mouse man.
Final tally.
Oilers broke the record but they didn't shatter it. A lot of big names weren't in the top slots. Not complaining at all but it would have been cool to push it to 90 or something.
>>596079 I think most are more focused on the charity right now.
slime hands
>>596116 Cute hands
Mouse is dying
>>596130 Me too
joycon for scale, also she is 153cm tall
>>596139 I saw a recording of her at offkai. She's literally the size of a child
Is she a Hag? She kinda sound like a hag. I'm not complaining tho
Where's the money froot?
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>>596146 dont you say
How I'm feeling ٩(◕‿◕。)۶
this song is giving me shivers holy fuck mouse
Fuck me.
(╥﹏╥)
Not to doom again but this feels like an end more than a new beginning.
>>596191 What is an end but a beginning?
ah yes, aishite aishite
Mouse said it would get really bad but then become good again. Would this be the end of bad times and start of good times?
>>596204 we are in ragnarok right now. What we know is ending and it will be chaos, but after that a new, bright beginning
FUCCCCCCCCCCKKKK
https://x.com/DokuroDx/status/1948093150284919232 oh my fucking god that pull (or whatever the term is)
That last note was just fucking grit
>>596217 kikuo songs are fucking brutal to sing, you need good range and a lot of practice very few people can pull them
>>596225 That's why she's my oshi
pink love (real)
>>596217 i kinda want to see her do cover for that song. michi was great, zeta also great, for how soft spoken she speak, ado, the goat.
BLOODBORNE MODEL DEBUT
oh fuckkkkkkkk she's a nun
Holy fuck this model is gorgeous
fuck guys, i'm lusting mouse tonight. Gothic nun is my kink
<imma <imma nun
<big booba nun
She looks like Nimi don't tell me you don't see it
>>596308 no...
absolutely adorable
every epebe design for mouse is such a w it's ridiculous the dress is a fucking nightmare for fanartists though with all of the non-uniform ruffles so you can't even use a ruffle brush
the pray toggle woke something fucked up inside me
This model is like top tier out the gate
RUN THE SLOPAMACHINES
s tier pose toggles and transition animations too WOW mouse please get this rigger to rerig kevin's shit I'm begging
Damn that's sick.
I’m having my special release rn mouse
The Bloodborne thing was supposed to be some sort of collab?
>Allowed It was mori
>>596342 >>596338 qrd? i was out of stream for a minute goddamnit
imagine <this outfit with underworld goddess base
>>596342 geega was talking about a duo model with a friend happening even if cshojo isn't a thing anymore so it's probably her
>>596349 i guess the fall of vshojo broke a lot of plans and i do remember she saying something about doing a project with mori a time ago...
>>596344 Holy booba
>>596349 This model was supposed to be what sounds like a dual debut with merch and everything.
>>596354 Geega model was with haruka.
>>596360 did she confirm it?
>>596354 I feel like she wouldn't have said "allowed" with geega though, I also thought mori immediately
>>596359 Dual debut? oh man.... is it like new debut or with the other girls
>>596361 look the video she dropped some days ago
>>596363 Just some other girl that was assumedly debuting a new model too. No clue if vshojo or otherwise.
>>596367 by the way mouse said they "recycled" the model
Vshojobros, are we back?
>>596373 Vshojo? What's that?
>>596351 hmm maybe it's time to turn on my sloppa machine
FREAK ON A LEASH
Some of top donors upped their donos again
>>596373 uh acktually it's call independent.
https://x.com/FerumiKaipa/status/1947808602644947288 is this the 4th member of the monstergirlgen?
This model reminds me of a) Nimi b) this
>>596393 good find, yes it most likely is considering https://x.com/FerumiKaipa/status/1948217081322668146
>>596393 >“Lack of unity” Man, vshojo was ran by /here/tards
>>596396 outfit? frill skirts?, other than that, nimi model look more matured, compared to mouse, uh, bratty
>>596402 Yeah I wonder if a lack of unity could be caused by not paying your talents. Fucking retards.
>>596406 Self-fufilling prophecies, my favorite
>>596403 Nimi looks like Mouse's older sister without depression.
this stream is wild
>>596425 >look how hard I can cum
>>596425 jesus the overlay
>>596424 kek. caretaker older sister vs gothic little sister.
good song lol
<look at my ass
Pia’s rigging is so weird. Her arms keep going up, like she’s suddenly falling
>>596445 She is on a skateboard all the time, that's why it looks weird
>>596446 Ah that makes sense
New song with Bubi coming soon
>>596459 It almost sounds like a rap song or something. Will be interesting.
Pia has a really big pickle
Panini...
la camisa negra kino incoming
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Pia raiding Mouse
Play date secured. Successful raid
>>596517 funny how there is more unity without vshojo.
oh so it was geega for the duo
>>596520 Yeah, no need to waste time yelling at management everyday
lmao it was really geega
>>596521 they were going to do a song... and she's now wearing a chibi of the model
tts unmutes I mute sorry mouse. great day though
>>596536 dont worry >scuttlebutts tts muted. also monke
>>596545 fjkdlsj thank you for letting me know I would have missed this
Connor's parents offered to help lol
>>596575 that's so sweet of them
rare w connor
man fuck vshojo for taking mouse from us. It really sad hearing her saying she doesn't know when she will stream again. Fuck man
>>596590 I have good news for you anon She literally can't do anything but stream or lay around So she's gonna keep streaming
>>596590 watch her go back to normal schedule within a week lol. streaming is a healing balm on her mental health and that's been in the shitter for longer than we probably know
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Didn't expect to come across some Pia lewds while browsing
>>596605 They are few in number sadly...
finally mouse x calli song soon
I want to hear her do this one when she's not crying, feels like it'd be really good when she can go full power
>>596594 >>596595 you said...
we will mouse, we will...
>>596625 What I was literally about to crawl into bed and I closed the stream what did she say
i want to hug mouse so bad... This vshojo exploding made me very parasocial for the rat
>>596625 it is though? now she's not sad crying alone offline, she's got thousands of people showing support live in front of her. it was also fine for quite a while there while she wasn't thinking about it, and god knows there's a lot of games to play for distraction oh hell yes good song
>>596631 the point is that she doesn't want us to see her crying.
Chat is unreadably fast
>>596639 there was 30k early and it was horrible, 20k is still really bad. Normally she sits around 8k so yeah... Today is not a really good day for chat. KEK
actually proud of connor for putting in effort to sing here
>>596650 Mouse did say she was slowly convincing him to sing with her.
>>596651 they're so good for each other in that way
i have a hard time understand people who keeps more than 4 tabs open...
she doesn't use bookmarks what the fuck mouse >>596666 I gain more over a day as my adhd meds wear off but still never more than 10 >>596670 freak
>>596670 >reddit tabs ew disgusting
>>594861 Considering she is Charonte, I like it better than tori. But taking into account the intelligence of the average vtuber watcher...yeah
>>596674 Nowhere else to get specific game information like for Factorio/Satisfactory
>>596679 reddit stole the place of the old "invisionfree forums". Man sometime i miss forums.
>>596670 i know that C, cosmoteer
>>596679 why would you leave it open?
IT'S ALMOST 4... FUCK. It was worth it but still... Take care of our rat guys.
vein gang soon
>>596693 actual platinum era
>>596693 really? WE ARE SO BACK
also
>>596697 monke said aethel asking vein gang soon.
>>596698 This is me
>>596693 oh i have this image
>>596703 nah that's my dono since i posted it. i wish, that amount is like 4 years worth of my salaries, converted to my currencies.
>596710 poor people don't donate
mouse explaining all the situation to her mom <is connor ok?
I'll never get tired of mouse and connor dunking on each other through backhanded comments about bubi
IRL in Halloween Horror Night in September
>>596765 the gall of mouse to call connor a leaker for saying a month when she spat out the location
>>596765 Sounds like they might be pivoting to Disney World.
mouse has been trying to get connor a custom arcade cabinet with time crisis on it but the company ghosted her when she said it was for a youtuber that's so weird, it's basically free advertising
>>596809 that or they go bankrupt.
>>596813 It’s actually a vshojo subsidiary operated by gunrun
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Also i noticed michi uploaded her music reaction to youtube, which is rare, so i decided to take a look who the editor, and it's the same company that does for mouse. Which is good, her youtube kinda like ghost town with how infrequently upload were. And also which how much she yapping, the editor having alot of contents to edits.
I think this situation is starting to affect my health cause I woke up with my chest hurting...
>>596840 you should watch back this mouse vod to relax, her and monke have been yapping for hours and it's wonderfully chill
>>596840 Couldn't be me (I woke up with a headache)
>>596840 I actually feel better now that there's no doubt and they left a place that abused their good will. Also Nagi is live with minecraft.
>>596840 I’ve been really sick this week. I woke up with a headache this morning
>people complain that my mods are tyrannical And they are mouse, having half of your messages be checked by mods when they are just 7tv emotes that have existed in your channel since forever is fucking wierd
>>596871 imo more popularity = more responsibility, as a general rule
Also, incoming rifle-san video. Peak Nagah stream
>>596871 I've had that happen maybe three times and it's because I mentioned death which is understandably for her held for moderation
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>>596878 HUZZAH xdd And some other common shit in my case.
>>596883 Maybe it's your vibe, they know you're evil irl
>>596883 They specifically target you
>Between friday and sunday, she might come back for another stream. >And may or may not be full streams. >By august, she should be okay to stream more.
>5pm est the music video for music box of fate will drop
Pete is the goat. nuff' said
My King is poor... He only makes $80/month...
she just left? Man i had to sleep a bit before work. God, i'm being so parasocial for mouse because of this situation. >>596840 yeah, i had a massive headache yesterday from reading and watching so many bad news one after another. When you pile all this bad things with the ones happening right now in your own life shit gets too heavy.
>>595804 He is not wrong tho
>>595968 Don't assume that because Pia is living and working in Japan is Nihongese. Only saying.
>>596840 For me it was worse during the Froot doc drop because all the vsj members and other vtubers were getting directly attacked, this time even though the situation is much worse it's the vsj execs taking the heat so I feel less stressed out. Not to mention this also means everyone's gloomy vagueposting will finally stop so i'm actually feeling kinda relieved.
>>596962 Yeah, that's the only silver lining here. No one's going after the talents (how could they? they were the main victims). I still think this is worse though because things can never go back to normal with the company gone.
>>596966 >how could they lmao, victim blaming is real. Not to mention all the people that insist that the talents were complicit in the scheme.
>>596969 That doesn't really make sense though. How do you collude to steal your own money? Schizos on /vt/ will always come up with some bizarre angle but it's not going to get wider traction, unlike past big dramas.
>>596969 I checked the ex for the first time since all this kicked off and closed out the tab in twenty seconds. victim blaming on a mass scale is one of those things that really gets to me in a way that I can't brush off
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>>596975 i skimmed the ex once and all i could read was faggots trying to pin this on mouse somehow kek
>>596969 Yeah unfortunately the usual suspects are still trying to attack our girls (mostly on /vt/) but this time there are less of them and they already wasted all their botting money on the previous situation.
For the love of everything, unless they are posting something like good lewds that haven't already been posted here, leave ex behind as every sane person has already migrated here. For fucks sake you still have retards parroting "Mel was a shadow CEO" rrat there
<in +news The pink jp hag cat (nemune) is karaokeing https://www.twitch.tv/nemutanemune
>>596986 o shit it's so weird to listen to her normal voice
Hotaru live, spinning the wheel in P5 gacha
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>>596973 Hatred overrides logic.
>>596990 >That+Singing "ahoy" by Marine My dick can't handle it anymore
>>597003 I knew it
I'm catching up with the Mouse VOD, she did say to support the girls that were supposed to join, I saw some people dooming about the possibility of the new girls being ignored by their seniors, i'm sure they will collab together in the future or at least receive raids.
>>597009 it was an ironic contrast to geega's "they're not real members, i dont know about anything about that they might be just grifting" speech
>>597009 I really hope they get a minecraft server going with all of them and any other friends as that's a fantastic way to get casual collabs with an emphasis on talking so you can feel out the new person
Healing arc incoming
>>597010 Totally disappointed with Geega with that statement. Anons are right she really is the PirateSoftware of vtubing. Gonna be blasting her for that.
>>597015 in that regard id say that just tori and beri need some catching up; mint, pia phoebe are friends with members already
She mentioned Mint as well, hopefully we'll see her again in future collabs. >>596424 Speaking of
>>597018 look while i do agree on the ego and never admitting she's wrong part; but at least geega doesn't say she's the first second generation blizzard employee or that her dad worked at blizzard every fucking minute kek
>>597016 There's are some petals falling that are going to stop that for the time being.
>>597015 That's a wonderful idea. >>597019 Can you guys give me the Youtube/Twitch links of Phoebe so I can follow her? I found a vtuber with that name but i'm not sure if that's the right one. https://www.youtube.com/@feebeechanchibi
>>597031 links are in the OP, anon
>>597031 That's her
>>597032 >>597034 ah thanks
Wait, >small, ex skatergirl, loves Japan and idols, went there to live. Is PiaPi Avril Lavigne?
>>597039 i mean i have yet to see avril and pia in the same place at the same time
>>597040 She's the real one 😯
>>597009 I'm really glad she at least shouted them out, but she didn't even mention any of their names. Who knows whether any of these people will show up in collabs. There's still a long, long way to go. It really sucks that management kept these people isolated from other members so they never had a chance to get to each other at all.
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>>597057 TIL Avril has a paul mccartney replacement theory thing as well
>>596837 well, another new video. good for her. i suspect mouse recommend her to use these agency for her channel. at least she got some profit from these. also her leaving vshojo video were the first video edited by them.
Some real spicy off topic stuff is going down.
>>597068 i'm tired man... is it worth?
>>597070 connor family worried and wanting to help mouse, mouse mom worried about connor... Guys... Nevermind.
>>597071 She's spilling a fuck ton of information. I won't summarize, but the ex is live posting.
https://x.com/VShojo/status/1760308126002405731 HOLY SHIT THEY ACTUALLY MADE A STATEMENT
>>597078 FUCK YOU
>>597079 >not recognizing the numbers by now Become Mason.
>>597076 yeah they are d...ah shit someone at the door
>>597015 Maybe it's cause I'm a filthy 4skin, but the last vsh MC server was the best arc as a group+pluses imo
>>597077 >it's about silver ah, don't care if the ex is talking about it. Nothing they talk about her is ever not disingenuous
>>597092 aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I thought it was something relevant.
>>597071 Gunrun is literally a SEA pagpag numbermonkey.
>>597077 Gonna be honest, I won't believe a word she says unless it's confirmed by somebody who isn't one of the other 2 leavers or mata (she has a tendency to side with people who are vulnerable by default).
>>597092 I literally said off topic.
>>597095 im scrolling through ex, but since i dont watch the stream rn, well...im gonna keep scrolling.
>>597097 >numbermonkey and yet unable of doing basic math
>>597103 just like numbermonkeys
>>597099 It's midnight, go to bed Connor.
>>597102 The only thing i saw and laughed was about "vshojo staff on discord watching everything she was saying". That is some high level schizo. Imagine some vshojo staff leaking all that bullshit people posted about her saying she was "suspended" KEK
>>597090 Yeah, Mei building a shrine for Henya was kino.
>>597108 How would she even know it was staff who leaked it and not anybody else?
>>597115 who knows i closed the tab. I'm already overwhelmed with people i care to hear about some crazy bitch schizo rant.
>>597068 I fucking hate that you made go run over to the ex and even look at her stream. That said, if, if, fucking IF what she's saying is true that during the Hogwarts Legacy shitshow Gunrun told her that she was a disappointment and that her getting harassed was an inconvenience to the brand and other talents, then I genuinely want this flip nigga Gunrun hanged right now.
>>597139 They can make whatever claims they want about Gunrun now, it's not like he's there to defend himself. Again, until somebody somewhat trustworthy verifies any of this, I'll assume she's full of shit.
>>597146 cue Sayu's "gunrun and i met and discussed making a niji saviour project together" bullshit kek
>>597108 i guess so they can wave NDA letter when she trying to spill something, idk. >>597139 well, assuming she broke all the NDA and the first to tell everything, maybe there truth to it, but i wait until all the talents got green light to spill all these tea. Also, from ex
>>597146 Yea that's why I emphasized if three times, but on the off chance that what the three indie bitches have been saying is true, then I actually want Gunrun to get fucking roped. Gunrun and his lawyers better hurry the fuck up and get their side of this shitshow out there.
>>597151 Sure, if it's true, Gunrun should be held responsible. I'll just need to hear it from somebody like Panini who's been there for a long time and has less of an ulterior motive.
Nagi is going to watch Harry Potter on sunday
>>597148 I mean, I doubt she would just outright fabricate something like that. The problem is that her plan makes no sense because she didn't actually have other Nijis to join, it was just an idle fantasy, and then she got terminated.
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>>597153 I know Mouse said the minute after all the legal shit is done and she finally gets clearance from her lawyers she's spilling everything. If she corroborates shit like there being an internal leaderboard among the members I'd legitimately believe the shit Silver has said
>>597156 a retarded that got terminated over deez nuts joke would recruit nijis... Yeah, sure
>>597107 kek just saw that on twitter
>>597163 i have a hard time believing silver because she lied A LOT on her private discord. We had proof of her saying wild shit like "i was suspended".
>>597171 how are you going to feel if she actually was
Why would she lie on stream? That's the dumbest shit ever
>>597171 that's why >>597153 said she'd believe her if a trustworthy source came and confirmed her story.
>>597176 explain to me HOW can se be suspended when no one but herself have her password and login anon.
>>597179 don't get hung up on the semantics and all the history of retards, there are other ways you can control people that effectively result in a suspension even if they can't stop him pc
>Naggers ded again
>>597182 IF it were true, id just hate gunrun and whoever made that retarded decision even more but as it currently stands, it's just the machinations of a schizoid mind
>>597182 ANON you are clearly new here. She was streaming like normal until she left.
>>597184 big gunrun killed her with his ion cannon from the tax haven he's hiding at for this >>597154
>>597196 do you guys think we can send ICE after gunrun?
>>597197 i mean he's brown enough if you wanna take that route
>>597198 they are deporting even Italians last i heard... RUN GEEGA
>>597197 With a last name like Ignaico? They're on his door step.
>>597163 Even then, that's just one unconfirmed thing. She could still be lying about everything else.
>>597200 they deport vinny and mike to italy and the vinesauce group fully becomes EU
>>597202 mouse already confirmed she was "forced" and "guilty trip" into stay in vshojo because she was the one carrying the party but i somehow doubt they would openly call a talent "disappointment", he is not wrong BUT...
>>597139 unpopular take but I agree with gun if that is the case. but my view on that shit is different from most here so it's fine
>>597210 I'll be siding with her atory simply because there's nothing to the contrary. If I were to hazard a guess in the favor of Vshojo, they may not have said that SHE was a disappointment, but perhaps her performance, or her not signing back on. That's hardly in Vshojo's favor though. Still a fucked up thing to say.
>>597213 i mean EVEN FUCKING NAZUNA got the memo.
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>A lot 4chinchins coming out of the woodwork to protect her who. Yeah, my cue to leave for the day
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>>597219 Look I'm labeled as one of the overly paranoid people in here and I even realize there's no "defending" here, if anything people are downplaying the shit she's saying
>>597219 Dude wtf
I'm just glad we managed to remove silver from the OP earlier so we can hopefully keep this to a minimum in the future.
Nagi raiding Hotaru, might do another morning stream if she wakes up early >>597219 you are mentally ill
>>597227 nvm, she picked someone from the minecraft category https://www.twitch.tv/suzune_rabbit
>>597222 because she has made shit up before. No one questioned nyan when she talked about the time she was swated.
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>>597230 >non peke approved male voices on stream
>>597234 oh dont get me wrong i am not opposing the downplaying, i just was telling that anon he's tweaking
>>597224 yea it kind of gets a pass this one time because it's directly relevant to vshojo but anything else hell no >>597216 she was given serious advice to not play for very valid reasons, to protect herself and the company from harassment from any side. it was unfortunately a political statement and the topic affects a significant portion of the vtubing audience, everyone knew this. if she was my coworker or employee I would tell her I was disappointed with her choice as well
>>597240 This. Poor pika had no way to know how bad it would backfire on her because she wasn't aware of how retarded cancel culture was but come on... Even mouse realized weeks early that playing that game was a huge mistake.
>>597236 I actually think one of those might be hesti approved lol
>>597257 > (2)
>>597210 90% chance someone told her they were disappointed or her choice disappointing and her brain warped that into "you're a disappointment". But honestly whatever, they handled it really, really poorly and caused a huge amount of trouble that haunts the girls to this day, even if Silver is an unreliable narrator. No reason to defend this company anymore.
>>597257 Nice try, lil half bro. If you actually paid attention to the OP, you would see that there's no Silver, Vei or Nyan there.
>>597257 Can you credit me when you repost me to /vsjp/? thank you
>>597260 i guess, her trauma runs deep and i don't blame her for it
btw zen live
>>597269 not everyone else's fault that she's unable to sort her daddy issues out
Why can't you guys be normal about this? You're acting like actual drones
>>597276 Go fuck yourself, big chungus.
>>597274 >>597276 I've been meaning to contact you about your car's extended warranty.
>>597274 Is there not a vshojo thread on 4chan?
once more proving that namefags are the worst posters
>>597280 It's so nice.
and the baiting faggot got banned, kek thank you vols
ahhh... mods that don't hate us is so good.
>disingenuous who brings disingenuous posters Color me shocked
>>597222 Otakuchango de Damegami, I'm not arguing if they are defending her or not. I could care less . I'm saying that 4chinchins and others are coping word per word the shit wrote in the ex (I did the dummy and went to read it). The moment where she is mentioned this shit happens. There is even the same loop: >Who >You are a schizo/mentally ill >Blablabla She is banned from being mentioned here for a reason. And personally if I wanted to be /there/, I'll be there. Not the case, hence why it's my time to leave for the day Holy fucking essay, km
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<instantly banned again
>the lawsuit finally hit the courts >zen is called to depose >out of nowhere throws a "how to cock" KEK
>>597305 i guess given the guy who's now ban evading to keep posting, you'd be right to just leave if you don't want to deal with this godspeed anon
I just came from work and I'm not in the loop yet but why would you retards not believe the talents when they tell you about stuff directly, even if its Silver?
Hulk hogan died? WTF is happening in this week?
>>597315 GunRun got the death note.
>>597312 I'll believe her when anyone backs her up, because she spilled some not so nice shit about time before exodus
>>597305 One of the crossposting retards got caught doing it last night because he reposted the shit he stole in the same thread it came from kek >>595242
>>597315 gunrun's evil tendrils reach far and wide, it seems
>>597315 Holy shit!!! Ozzy now Hogan…all my hero’s are dying in a week , FML
damn vols beat me to a reply that's what i get for being shit at phone keyboards >>597315 what the actual fuck
>>597315 Wtf this is how i got the news?
>>597324 zen told me and i told you
>>597312 Yeah I don't understand, I just want everyone to be more neutral and kinda forget their bias for a bit.
>>597321 AirBud is also getting a 2026 sequel.
>>597312 because she is a well know liar
>>597327 Bruh. Rip.
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Also, i guess it's time for me to update my twitter list from vsj to xvsj. Also phoneposting https://x.com/kivonotbabu/status/1948216372049416253?t=SjSo0vS5D8O8GYEqsfKs4g&s=19
Are you guys watching zen?
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Had a truly awful night but I woke up and see sonch shitting on a dramafag on twitter. That's nice.
>>597347 not right now, im watching the bald man instead >>597349 >>597352 based souchou
so zen is confirming that they smoked 11M and no one really knows how...
>>597347 Yeah, she's talking about the 11M "disappearing".
>>597357 oh so the 11M reached vshojo? thought they never got it due to the sillicon valley bank collapse
>>597347 No, I'm on jury duty.
>>597347 It's midnight, I'm going to sleep, maybe a few scrolls on twitter first.
>>597364 yeah, a lot of people speculated they never got the money but it seems they got the money before the bank broke.
>>597357 Ah, well gonna keep that for morning reading.
>>597364 I think nobody really knows for sure how much of the money ever got to vshojo. Probably only Gunrun, MTD and a select few others.
>>597347 phone posting from bed while thinking about a former and new member cover of this is what it sounds like... it'd be great too sleepy now though good night anons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEX8mAV5Ipo&feature=youtu.be full subtitled convo between sonch and loutlot if you're interested
poor zen lawyer
Zen thought vshojo would throw her under the bus and not debut small vtubers from the auditions. She didn't know about the monstergirl gen.
>>597379 i guess this explain some of her zenheras kek
>>597377 I kinda hope she doesn't imitate the 3 leavers too much in this. Her situation is not the same as theirs. Should just leave it to the lawyers as much as possible.
>>597379 why did they keep this from her, it could have shut her up so fast that's craaaazy
>>597379 1000% justified zenhera voices
>>597381 she is being very careful and only talking about well know shit
>>597386 That's good, then.
>>597382 she thinks they are too big, no joke
>>597392 Wait, she thinks the ones we've learned about are too big? Pia, Beri, and Tori?
She also thinks they were too big. She wanted literal fresh blood 1views.
Too big? Is she retarded?
>>597395 yup kek
>>597397 ok zen is retard
>>597397 And how are they supposed to find people who are completely unknown? pick them up from the streets?
>>597349 >retweeting kirsche, proctor, and holo stuff That's a phasefag's burner account, the usual suspects I mentioned earlier.
>>597399 How exactly does one obtain negative viewership to please Zen in this aspect?
>>597402 zen is trying to create another pikamee but she doesn't realize that for one pikamee we had a full voms.
>>597397 a swing and a miss, zen... a swing and a miss...
Also, it's just an unnecessary risk to pick up 1 views. They still need to prove that they can at least hold an audience to some degree.
imagine calling this too big, holy fuck Zen
>>597392 No wonder this agency going bankrupt. /j
>>597416 30-40 viewers average not counting the last 2 streams...
>>597418 i mean gunrun and his retards were bad but zen would destroy this agency even faster.
Zen thought it was unfair that she was still critized because Vshojo already debuted Nova (some said it doesn't count because JP) and she thought that Vshojo wouldn't protect her if the new debuts were not small enough.
>>597425 This Zenhera... what a management nightmare she must have been.
>>597422 Hey, Zen wants to help 5 people start from the ground up. Maybe we'll see it happen.
>>597425 man i cant with this woman sometimes
>>597425 it's zen own fault for being retard and say anything about 2 viewers. No one asked her to do it.
Zen warned staff that debuting Amalee without notifying that the auditions are still ongoing would create a PR backlash and she was told it would be fine.
>>597422 Looking back, i feel like gun try to pleased every talents request, but badly mismanagement destroy everything. Imagine if this not the case.
>>597429 she's just going to end up helping her immediate circle of orbiting 2views and this whole ass cycle will repeat again
>>597425 Jesus zen
>>597436 cue to her raiding fucking sigrid.
>>597429 I mean, any big streamer can theoretically help smaller streamers grow a bit, but that has little to do with finding true diamonds in the rough who will genuinely blow up and be self-sufficient later. Still good of her to try, though.
>>597433 And it was fine.
This feels weird me saying this as a long time vsj supporter but was Vshojo just a pyramid scheme? I had two different GF’s who got involved with pyramid schemes and I told both of them they were pyramid schemes and they didn’t listen until till they fucked over. Shit, I even have a few friends who’s GF’s got tricked into becoming a “life coach” only to realize later that it was a cult. I think that’s the kind of corpo we were all watching for years and we all fell for it hook line and sinker…like the old saying goes if it’s too good to be true, it probably is
>>597445 Eh, I think they just sucked at handling money, tbh. Time will tell.
>>597445 i don't know if exactly a pyramid scheme because it doesn't have the multilevel marketing attributes to it but it does feel like your usual silliconvalley smokescreen startups that grab the big VC bucks and then die
>>597445 no... It's classic "i'm too smart and successful" to hire people who really know what they are doing It is very clear with that jp campaign before even debut vshojojp
Zen calls out schizos attacking the talents for this situation. She also never asked for payments and only recently found out that some other talents didn't get paid.
>>597455 she probably never knew about mouse situation until she dropped that bomb
wait, what was supposed timeline? monstergirls were pushed so far they'd debut after idols? because then Zen makes sense
Zen said she had a lot of fun times in Vshojo and it made her ignore some of the issues.
>>597459 idols were supposed to debut first, yeah
>>597459 idols were always supposed to be before monstergirls, mint was signed and ready before the auditions even had chosen talent
>>597463 >>597464 well that makes sense then, because Mint is pretty big. SHe is probably about idols, and how much backlash she would have to tank if they debuted before monstershojos
Zen thought she was thrown to the wolves by the pr team. Ok that's a bit silly, nobody asked you to make those tweets.
>>597468 she's going full silver kek
>>597468 yeah, everyone in vsj+ was questioning and calling her a retard for saying that... It was her own fault to even talk about that.
MIGRATE >>597474 >>597474 >>597474 MIGRATE
>>597452 Well, pyramid scheme is kind of a loose term now. Basically I think of it as if you join us we will promise x,y,z and you’ll dreams will come true, you start promoting and buying into the idea then they say great job we’ll pay you soon for your efforts and then keep making up excuses for why the payment is delayed and then you never get your money… IDK to me it sounds exactly what’s going on currently with the ex talents
>>597468 If I were her I'd just refered to Vshojo directly about any debut stuff. Why the fuck would you tank it? Let the company do it
>>597397 Gunrun ran vshojo maliciously, and wanted to sign bigger names to steal. While Zen could run vshojo with her retardation, why don’t she fucking pay for 1 views herself, things were already so bad lol
>>597416 There is honestly no other way to explain it beyond that she's retarded.


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