I missed you guys.

>>145641 I missed you too anon. The last three hours with my internet being down was hell

>>145642 I meant the fifteen minutes between threads, but that also sounds rough. >>145643 Engage with the source material. Play it, watch it, etc. It usually encourages me.

>>145641 It's been like 10 minutes

I found a stupid zelda thing to make a jump from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WWYGrt1Clo

>>145643 You just have to grind

>>145640 For some reason I didn't ask last thread, because I forgot, but Describe your Legion to me please, Colors would also be nice

>>145647 just looking at the thumbnail I don't see me being into it, but good luck

>>145648 how does it feel knowing you are the gayest person here anymore

>>145649 It's catgirls. Nothing but catgirls.

>>145650 If it helps, that's not Zelda.

>>145647 I saw this video before can you add a porn toggle?

>>145649 Our Warhammer autism is weak. We're more Fate/Naruto/Bleach guys

>>145653 how is that not zelda?

>>145647 Yu-Gi-Oh/Gradius was not the crossover I was expecting. I joke, but at this point you could just embrace the shitpost energy either in that direction or make a nod to the Japanese version of Kirby's Great Cave Offensive just spewing random loot from other settings in the background.

>>145644 I was going to say in the next thread, because there was no one below my post, no one was gayer than PsychoAnon but uh... congrats I guess.

>>145655 JOIN US PSYCO AND WE CAN BECOME STRONGER

>>145658 My power is beyond your understanding.

>>145647 How did Zelda get one of the Moai heads from Metal Gear?

>>145647 >>145654 If you see the rest of the videos in the series, you know you don't need a porn toggle. Those are just the ad, the patreon versions include porn.

>>145373 >>145388 >>145394 Thank you WoD lore experts. One additional question: why exactly do I need to buy Spirit Projection? Just out of curiosity; I'm getting it anyways, but why is it so important?

>>145656 That's Zoe, the authors oc. She looks exactly like Zelda and is a princess of Hyrule, but she's stupid af and swears a lot. >>145654 Why would I need to add a toggle, it's already porn.They fuck in the extended edition >>145662 She stole it from the pope.

>>145656 >>145662 It's "Zoe", not Zelda.

>>145465 Thanks for the notes. I'll put them to good use when the time comes.

>>145665 >She stole it from the pope. I presume the next image is him saying no, and her grabbing it and running off. >>145666 >It's "Zoe", not Zelda. >>145665 >is a princess of Hyrule Which is it?

Do you guys think the Garou would be upset at me if I introduced Dead Apostles into the world for the express purpose of eroding the Consensus and culling the numbers of the Cainites and humans?

>>145669 Yes. Not because the actions of the Dead Apostles bother them, mind you. But purely because you did a thing and therefore they are mad.

>>145669 Yes. They don't give a shit about Consensus (wouldn't even know what it is) but they'd be pissed at you doing anything, let alone bringing in what looks to be a bunch of /other/ Wyrm-tainted abominations in your wake.

>>145665 >pic That's some peak early 2000s webcomic energy there and I don't know whether to applaud or cringe at the implications...

If I created two buttons, one labeled "Fix Everything" and the other "Kill A Random Person", and had a thousand Garou choose between each of the two buttons, not even one of them would press the Fix Everything button.

>>145647 It isn't porn but would be a fun Zelda jump, I think this is the same guy that did the Gwen/Raven videos

>>145670 >Not because the actions of the Dead Apostles bother them, mind you. You underestimate the Garou. They are perfectly capable of being mad about the actions of the Dead Apostles at the same time they’re being mad about them being introduced.

>>145660 It's legit too much lore

>>145668 Actually the next page is him saying that's a terrible idea. The page after that is her running off with it. Imagine Zelda, but instead of the bearer of the triforce of wisdom, she was the bearer of the triforce of tiktok. This is Zoe. >>145672 Yes.

>>145665 Blade, you truly have taken slop to a new level

>>145673 Again, you misjudge them. The odds of at least one of them tripping and falling on the Fix Everything button are not insignificant.

>>145678 I just wanna make a funny jump about link using a magic statue to make zelda's tits bigger and her making an onlyfans to pay rent.

>>145670 That sounds like a rough way to live. >>145671 I assume them being Luna-tained abominations and me being a child/emanation of Luna and the Earth wouldn't help, right?

>>145679 It isn't, but instead of hitting the actual button the tripping garou would instead break the buttonso no one else can fix everything.

Guys I found a picture of Psycho.

>>145680 There's also the other videos. In one of them the pope turn Link into Linkle so he and Zoe can have lesbian sex.

>>145676 Just look at something you like and dip your foot in, that's what most people do. Who knows you might find a legion who represents you.

>>145664 >Just out of curiosity; I'm getting it anyways, but why is it so important? The final part of the ritual to become a purified requires the purified to kill themselves to forcefully project their mind/soul into the Shadow Realm so it can be mutated into something similar to a spirit, followed by them finding their way back to their body, restoring it with essence, and then re-entering it. Spirit Projection has two effects. It lets you project your mind from your body AND it lets you put minds back into their bodies if they've been separated. If you don't have Spirit Projection, you can't re-enter your body

>>145681 >That sounds like a rough way to live. It's a hard life, but someone's gotta do it. (No they don't, they do this to themselves and literally nobody is benefitted from this, least of all themselves.) >>145679 That would imply that a Garou could do something positive, if only by accident. >>145683 Now THAT sounds more like the Garou.

>>145686 From what I can tell everything is fucked and everyone is bad

>>145677 >Imagine Zelda, but instead of the bearer of the triforce of wisdom, she was the bearer of the triforce of tiktok. Time to break the seal on Calamity Ganon.

>>145684 Get help

>>145647 >Take the statue back to the pope >pope genderbends link and makes fake zelda look even sluttier I'm gonna have to look this dude up on Kemono so I can see genderbent link fuck fake zelda, aren't I?

>>145681 It would not. They'd probably be even MORE pissed at the idea of you "contaminating" Luna and Gaia with your existence, in fact.

>>145692 You first "little man."

>>145687 Huh. Well that's a thing. So Purified is technically a trap option if you don't take this specific extremely cheap power alongside it?

>>145685 Yup, seen it. >>145690 Ganon is already free. Sort of. He bodyjacks the pope.and then they fuck >>145693 It's not that great. It's there, but it's not that great.

This statue thing reminds me that I need to do a chain where I have the Star Rod and actually use it to its full potential https://youtube.com/watch?v=-rANg2Gk-Zs

>>145688 >That would imply that a Garou could do something positive, if only by accident. They have actually. Again, they stopped Eater-Of-Souls from manifesting and literally da Ning the world. The Garou /can/ do good things - it's just that said things are marred by the fact that they wouldn't have been necessary in the first place if the Garou hadn't genocided all the Fera meant to actually fix the world.

>>145697 >It's not that great. It's there, but it's not that great. Yeah, I found it in like twenty seconds. I was expecting more than basically four frames of animations played really quickly

>>145699 *literally damning

>>145649 I liked the Solar Heralds, but the Word Bearers originally had the name Imperial Heralds and it has soured me on the name. The few other names I've come up with that I like turned out to be existing chapter names. . .

>>145689 That doesn't mean you can't be a light in the dark and the spark of hope that they need.

>>145703 I don't want to convert to your religion

>>145702 >The few other names I've come up with that I like turned out to be existing chapter names. . . Don't worry about it anon, just take the name, Remember the Imperial Heralds would be perfect for you

>>145696 >Spoiler Basically, yeah. I'm honestly not sure why you don't get Spirit Projection free when buying being a Purified, since it's literally a hard requirement for becoming one

>>145677 Link is getting a double blowjob by 'Zoe' and...Felicia Day?

>>145689 The Imperium is a based force of objective Good.

>>145704 So you're an iron warrior eh? That can still work, you sorta seem like one of us Psycho

>>145649 My legion were literally my children. The space marines made with my geneseed were folded into the First instead. Their armor was olive drab with silver "highlights" along the edges, unless it was painted in camo that is, and the crest was just a modified version of the legendary difficulty icon from Halo.

>>145688 >It's a hard life, but someone's gotta do it. I suppose so. Far be it from me to question their life-choices considering I'm both my own dad, mom and daughter. >>145694 There's a certain irony that when a godlike being descended from their second-highest objects of worship descends from the Heavens to help them with their divinely ordained task, their first instinct is to be upset that said godlike being exists. But then, with their history of genociding their peers and coworkers I shouldn't be surprised.

>>145710 That's cool, but did you take over the D'angels and Lion'el Johnson or did they just join up with them?

>>145706 Does it even matter considering you already completed the ritual when you buy the option and the origin says your soul goes automatically back to your body when you die?

>>145707 No that's also Zoe. Link wished for two of her. >>145700 The later ones are slightly better.

I though the Nephilim from a basically WoD Another Werewoof CYOA were pretty cool and pleasantly surprised when they are a canon thing in WoD called Geryo and Shards jump for Sundered World lets you be one. >Firstborn Contagion (600 CP): The Uratha are not Father Wolf’s First children. There was a more savage pack once, who hunted to prove their worth to their creator but could not win his acceptance because their unchecked madness tore at the fabric of reality itself. They drove terror into the hearts of mortal creatures, yet were abandoned by the dark mother he sired them with. A horrid atavism seems to have awakened in you, warping you into one of these creatures-yet by some miracle, you wrested back control of yourself and retain all your powers as a werewolf while gaining the power to transform into a powerful specimen of the First, also called the Urighur or Geryo.

>>145712 I was one of the OTL missing Primarchs. My space marines were just given to the First because I already had my own army, though all of that was wiped from the official record since a Primarch having an army of supersoldiers who were directly descended from them and capable of passing on their enhancements would cause some issues politically.

>>145713 >Does it even matter considering you already completed the ritual when you buy the option Yes, because you ALSO need to use Spirit Projection to leave your body to collect Essence >the origin says your soul goes automatically back to your body when you die? It doesn't actually say that.

>>145716 Why leave your sons? You could have just taken them with you anon and kept their working cock and balls a secret

>>145718 The space marines couldn't have kids, they were just regular space marines. I also didn't want a bunch of retards from Terra. The whole point was that my space marine legion wasn't actually a legion of space marines at all due to the dark secret drawback.

I need more Jumps to make my hive even more powerful

Speaking of WoD, are changelings in Dark Age really that powerful? In the Dark Medieval jump they cost more than mages.

>>145721 I'm pretty sure that was brought up at some point.

>>145721 >>145722 https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/changeling%20600/

Here's a question. You guys are gonna get stuck in a post-apocalypse scenario, but you wanna make sure you don't get bored with likely all the down-time you'll have. What board game would you pack? This is assuming a no power scenario so videogames are out. I'd be tempted to go Talisman due to replayability but the bulk of it plus the expansions would probably be a major drawback. And it might not be something everyone enjoys.

>>145723 Huh. I completely forgot about the chain where I started as an Innocent, murdered some Fae to steal a ranch house in the Hedge, became a Hunter, accidentally became a Beast, and then ate a bunch of Mages to bastardize the Imperial Mysteries and become a false archmage to escape the downsides of being a beast and to reclaim my childhood Imaginary. Fun times

>>145724 I am not into them(mostly because its hard to get people together), but some TTRPGs like DnD could work pretty well.

>>145724 A couple decks of cards plus a book of card games. Has maximum variety for minimum weight.

How strong would a major WHF character be as a Servant in a Holy Grail War?

>>145724 I am rather fond of Coup.

>>145728 Depends on who is his master and if the fame you are taking into account comes from WHF or Fate.

>>145726 There are solo board games, I think Gloomhaven was popular as one. Though I also recall it being a gigantic clusterfuck and needing a huge table. >>145727 Probably the most bang for your buck, and replacements aren't exactly hard to find. Would suck for solo play since you're basically limited to FreeCell or else run the risk of unwinnables. >>145729 Coup is one of the Mafia-style games, right?

>>145724 Risk, of the board games I have in my closet it's a less 'volatile' pick compared to either version of Monopoly I've got. Haven't played since I was a kid tho.

>>145732 oh, right, I forget that despite us being on /tg/ most people here probably aren't into board games

>>145733 Thinking on it I've also got a chess set, played that more recently even if it was still a long time ago.

>>145733 We're not on /tg/ anymore. We're on /jc/.

>>145731 >Coup is one of the Mafia-style games, right? Kinda? It's a free for all, there aren't hidden rolls per se, but it is focused on deception.

>>145733 I like boardgames plenty. I enjoyed Chinese Checkers quite a bit as a kid. Not a lot of opportunities to play as a kid though.

>>145724 I kinda liked Betrayal of the House of the hill, but I feel like it would be tiring really fast. Probably one about spirits that I played and it looked very complex.

>>145737 Silly question but would Knight of the Lord from DS1 work on Cybernetics? Such as to apply your healing to them and ensure they aren't weaker than any flesh they replace?

>>145736 Yeah, that's what I meant. A kind of social game. >>145735 You know what I mean. >>145737 Yeah, I get that. Luckily my stepdad is into boardgames and even wargames so we get together sometimes and play games. >>145738 Definitely hard to choose between fun, replayable, and accessible to other people.

>>145728 They get their asses kicked. Servants are capable of running around at the speed of sound wiping entire city blocks out in single attacks and somehow that is supposed to be weaker than they were in real life, at least according to FGO.

>>145649 Star Pioneers. Technically a violation of my avatar’s genetic material, not that I or Emps care given I’d have done much the same in his position. Imagine Space Wolves but instead of wolves it’s harp seals on a Europa-like ocean planet, and instead of vikings they have more of an old-timey age of sail nautical explorer theme. Colorwise it’s pretty much like if Big Daddies from Bioshock were made in Columbia-bulky nautical suits but more polished and with brighter colors. They specialised in navigating the Warp and space, as well as well as heavy vehicle combat. Their dark secret was NOT the benign colony of seal spirits assisting them in the fight against the Warp (since again, the Space Wolves have established a precedent for that sort of thing apparently being sustainable) but that I was also planning to turn them into C’tan hybrids, further cucking Orikan out of his speshul snowflake status in the LoT scenario. >>145724 Go. >>145721 I remember having a debate with Generic about this, but the long and short is that during Dark Ages Changelings could essentially cast Mage-like powers with less preparation, at similar range and without fear of paradox. Essentially they were closer to being reality warpers than mages were in the short term. I’m still not convinced the jump should only take the short term into account when Mage/Demon have such wanked heights to reach in the long term, but Generic seems to have a very gameplay-focused interpretation of how to balance things in jumps.

>>145739 I suppose so, yeah. I feel like it could go either way but I lean towards yes. No less strange than growing alongside your suit of armor. >>145740 That sounds pretty nice.

>>145728 ”Major WHF character” is such a vague qualifier that you could be talking about anyone from Karl Franz, winner of the “I’m in over my head” award. To Greasus Goldtooth, whose achievements are more about leadership and ambition than personal prowess. To Skarbrand, theoretically one of the strongest beings to ever walk the setting (and in practice, jobbed to Malekith by MAGIC in defiance of all the WHF jump perks that seem to imply Khornate daemons should be good at resisting that shit). Anyway, if nothing else Servants tend to be a lot faster. And anyone with a blasty sword can dish out wide scale pain that anyone who isn’t a vampire or at the bare minimum accomplished isn’t really equipped to respond against fast enough to do anything about. The general thing about Japanese fantasy versus western fantasy is that their wizards are typically much, much faster on the draw even though the vague world-changing rituals tend to be a lot simpler for western wizards to set up.

>>145743 >I suppose so, yeah. I feel like it could go either way but I lean towards yes. No less strange than growing alongside your suit of armor. Nice, thanks!

>>145744 Shard, they just announced Suzumi alt for after FEST. Trinity just can't stop winning. Meanwhile gehenners don't even have main story chapter to themselves

>>145611 >The other is solely the fault of some herbivorous Japanese man that wrote himself into a corner then kept digging himself deeping. The crazy part is the author could have just said nothing. He didn't need to explain the circumstances behind why Bell got the cheat skill just like he didn't have to admit in an interview he purposely refused to have certain character (gareth landrock in particular) level up because then they'd just handle the problems and Bell wouldn't be able to be the hero. He could have, literally, just not said those things and there wouldn't have been an issue. >>145612 White's probably the most generally useful. >>145616 >How did he earn it? It's been a while so I don't remember the exact circumstances but basically it was a combination of things related to personal motivation and ability to persevere towards a goal which honestly Bell hardly qualified for but which Tiona, if you were aware of her backstory, seems basically tailor made to qualify for. >>145616 >I mean, it is a world full of magic and stuff. There is more than enough dangers and reasons for the highest level people to not be around and Bel would need to act. nta but there's only a handful of level 6+ people and only one level 7, and the black dragon that Bell is supposed to defeat canonically defeated two familia which included at least one level 9, multiple level 8's and presumably a whole bunch of level 6's and 7's. For Bell to be the one to take down the dragon requires that he become literally the most powerful adventurer in history. It also requires that none of the people that are already high level get there first because if that happens then Bell can't be the hero, ergo the author deliberately prevents them from leveling up because if they did then Bell wouldn't be needed. The narrative the author wants to tell requires that Bell effectively be the isekai cheat hero that styles on everyone else but the world and story he has written is a sort of lit-rpg lite where he's starting at the bottom and it requires everyone else to stop advancing not only for him to catch up but also requires him to simp for a specific other character who is herself NEVER allowed to reciprocate because it would wreck the specific plot points that the author themselves established.

>>145640 >Time Enough for Cringe Say that to DIO and his Za Warudo.

>>145747 That's a long wall of text to say "the author is a dumb piece of shit.

>>145747 >implying the Gareth Landrock fanbase wouldn't form a Hal's Emerald Attack Team esque clique of rabid conspirators

>>145748 What about it? He should have named his Stand that.

Young Tenten: I want to be a mighty ninja like Lady Tsunade! Adult Tenten: Becomes a failing store owner

>>145752 She said she wants to be like Tsunade when Tsunade spend most of her days gambling and fleeing her debtors. She never said it after Tsunade became Hokage.

>>145752 Real life be like

>>145742 >Star Pioneers. Technically a violation of my avatar’s genetic material, not that I or Emps care given I’d have done much the same in his position. Sound Cool >Imagine Space Wolves but instead of wolves it’s harp seals on a Europa-like ocean planet, and instead of vikings they have more of an old-timey age of sail nautical explorer theme. Colorwise it’s pretty much like if Big Daddies from Bioshock were made in Columbia-bulky nautical suits but more polished and with brighter colors. That's neat, But I'm just imagining your logo being this

>>145753 >>145754 I don't remember her ever using chakra. I mean logically she probably uses it to enhance herself and her weapons but nothing advanced. It's a miracle she's considered a ninja, I mean being a ninja in the Naruto world means you're a wizzard and she's less magical than Rock Lee.

>>145756 She summons her weapons using scrolls, that is a ninjutsu.

>>145746 >Meamwhile gehenners don’t even have main story chapter to themselves …you know, maybe the Great Leader Makoto really is the greatest leader of them all since Gehenna never has problems big enough to merit a main story chapter. >>145755 Honestly yeah instead of the usual skull motifs there’s just a lot of :3 faces on their armor. >>145669 Absolutely not, given what Crimson Moon Brunestud was up while he was creating them Dead Apostles would almost certainly ping as a pest species.

>>145756 The wiki has a grand total of three canon techniques listed for her. One is swinging a magic fan, the second is sealing things in a scroll, and the last is unsealing items from a scroll

>>145758 >Honestly yeah instead of the usual skull motifs there’s just a lot of :3 faces on their armor. The last thing a traitor sees

I have a wonderful idea. If I simply change the akashic records to say that no sapient being or machine can see my tower unless I wish them too then by all accounts they should be unable to see it Unfortunately it is very tall so I will need to also make it be avoided by anyone I dont give an invite too Nothing can go wrong with this plan.

>>145761 Sounds good to me

>>145724 I would pack a couple of ttrpg books. Dnd or cyberpunk, maybe some other stuff.

>>145758 >Gehenna never has problems big enough to merit a main story chapter Given how their few side events are either about Hina or happen because Hina was too overworked to fix them beforehand, I'd say their chance for main story chapter will be after they follow up on the Eden Treaty and combine their bolice groups, given that Hina said she wanted to retire already

>>145759 So she potentially knows some sealing jutsu, and it's not even the OP kind.

Would an Abhorash tier Blood Dragon vampire have any chance against Netflix Dracula? VSbattles suggests yes but >vsbattles

>>145752 Remember, the message of Naruto is trying your hardest, then failing because you aren't the best. Just don't try. Never get up.

>>145762 The best part is I can work this into my paradigm of being a weird virtual adept using information to change reality.

>>145764 Okay, but what happens when Hina is finally no longer overworked and gets a week of napping to build up energy?

>>145767 No the message in naruto is that unless you have super special genes and/or massive political value you are screwed.

>>145770 You're correct, I was partly implying that with 'the best'

>>145769 She assaults (You), sensei

>>145772 Impossible, Hina would never do such a thing. If Hina did assault me, I trust Hina to intervene and protect me.

>>145771 Ah my apologies then.

>>145756 She is an example of a normal person by this world's standards, a somewhat gifted one even. This is what it looks like if you're not a super prodigy, don't inherit super techniques from your ninja clan or great sensei, don't have godlike determination to succeed, or have any type of innate ability. Remember homie, the first exam of the Chunin Exams had people with gray hair participating. You have been cultured to believe the face cast is representative of the norms when not one of them is playing fair at all. All of them are crazy, A-Ranks are big fucking deals, S-Ranks are rare monsters that threaten whole villages potentially, the kinds of throwdowns and fights happening are not regular.

>>145773 She's been too patient so far because of work. Now that she will have extra time and energy, there's no way to escape her

So, I'm going to do a World of Darkness arc in one of my chains, ten jumps long, starting in Mortals and ending in Demon The Descent. The general idea of this arc is to get as many odd templates and weird powers as possible, as well as experience the widest variety of World of Darkness I can. To that end, this is my current lineup. >Mortals >Kindred Of The East >Changeling The Lost >Princess The Hopeful >Mage The Awakening >Leviathan The Tempest >Genius The Transgression >Vampire The Masquerade >Demon The Descent What I want to ask, then, is this: what World of Darkness jumps would you guys replace in this lineup for a more varied/interesting experience, and with which jumps? ExWoD is not allowed.

>>145742 >but Generic seems to have a very gameplay-focused interpretation of how to balance things in jumps Probably because that's the only interpretation anyone ever uses when talking about WoD, for example everyone saying that Paradox is worse in owod when convincing a small backwater village that magic is real should be easier then dealing with an entire conceptual realm trying to kick your balls and people only argue the later is easier is because the mechanics are more polished.

>>145777 Sorry Nyanko, I failed to roll the shupo twins.

>>145766 Probably easily because Netflix Dracula is just a depressed widow with none of the Chaos wank from the games.

>>145779 That's okay, you can try again next time.

>>145761 You do have a way to back up your own memories so you don’t forget about your own tower, right? Right? >>145778 I’m just saying, if the franchise takes the effort to print out a shitton of books about how the splats fit into the wider setting (mostly as footstools for old people) then whether you like it or not, I feel you’ve got an obligation as a jumpmaker to take it into account. Not necessarily OFFER absolutely everything, but use-for example-the known oWoD Changeling vulnerability to people no longer subscribing to whimsy and wonder when weighting their powers against those of people who can still do bigger picture shit than anything Changelings can hope to with enough dream-quests into the Umbra realms or space-twisting demons who always have the option of becoming Earthborn (it’s just really supposed to suck). >Paradox is worse in oWoD …I thought everyone said that because in nWoD you literally have the option to just pay more mana to make the bad juju go away, whereas in oWoD there are entire sidebars dedicated to how if you try to be clever about it the entire fucking world WILL find a way to stick you with the consequences later down the road. Not because it’s assumed every mage will butt head with the archmage-level players without really going out of their way (something nWoD’s setting does not support)

>>145781 I'll do my best during FES to get swimsuit mika and co.

>>145777 I'm just going to point out that all of those are Chronicles of Darkness Jumps except for Vampire the Masquerade. Chronicles and World are two different settings, so I'd try to vary both of them a bit, and I'd suggest both versions of Mage because they're the best at exploring a large number of places/realms.

>>145784 I’m pretty sure this has been pointed out to Nyanko before, but I’m not sure if he’s actually ignorant or just ignoring that for variety’s sake

>>145782 >You do have a way to back up your own memories so you don’t forget about your own tower, right? >Right? Sure I do... sure.. Im not sure how effective that would be what with the whole sourcecode and font of all exact knowledge, data, and truth being tampered with. I just planned on never leaving my tower physically if I can avoid it.

>>145767 >>145770 Just be Orochimaru.

>>145778 I mean, pumping mana into their system to reset their Pattern to its natural state is a normal Awakening mage ability. Like, that's just one of their innate abilities.

>>145784 >>145785 It's one part ignorance three parts ignoring it deliberately. I don't want to do multiple Mage jumps because ultimately that's still just doubling down on "mage" jumps. Also I thought that Kindred, Changeling, and...maybe Leviathan were all WoD rather than CofD jumps? Frankly I'm not sure. Honestly, I kinda want to do more CofD jumps than WoD, but there's a few WoD jumps (Vampire the Masquerade) that I really want to do, so it's not quite a pure CofD arc.

>>145787 Prodigy who studied under the third Hokage and found one of the strongest summoning contracts in the world.

>people having issues with paradox Like just be a prime mage and ignore it Or be a spirit mage and make a deal so it wont come and smack you at a bad time then sit down and pay it later Or be a fate mage and just change fate so paradox never is an issue just by chance

>>145789 >Also I thought that Kindred, Changeling, and...maybe Leviathan were all WoD rather than CofD jumps? Okay, so the way it works is that there's TYPICALLY a version of each plat on both sides of the divide. So there's Vampire: the Masquerade but also Vampire: the Requiem. Changeling: the Lost is the Chronicles version of Changeling. Also, I fucked up and glossed over Kindred of the East, that one IS World of Darkness, so that was my bad. Anyways, on the Chronicles side of things, the ones I'd suggest are mandatory are >Changeling the Lost (the things they interact with are hard for everyone else but mages to even touch, and even then it's dangerous for mages) >Sundered World (lets you explore the paleolithic era and all the weird shit there covering an era that the other Jumps don't let you touch, be a mage here instead of in Awakening- not only does it have less Jumpmaker-imposed restrictions, it frees up a Jump) >Demon the Descent (God Machine stuff is hard to fuck with if not a Demon) And from there you can do whatever else, because most other things can be fucked around with as a mage. I'd focus on WoD then.

Wait shit I just realized my mage paradigm, while being centered on cyberpunk, has largely become either shin megami tensei or digimon. I code daemons, I store them in my digital fortresses and cyberware, I have an entire net realm where I choose and breed them artificially for more potent and loyal strains and allow them to mutate if they desire it in a form of artificial evolution. Then I release them onto my enemies data networks and use them to accomplish my magic as spells worked second hand via specific daemons.

>>145790 Man you know it's bad when fucking dragon ball is better at teaching you effort matters.

How effective is poison on Superman?

>>145793 Considering that classic mage was running off a mix of classic 90s Matrix nerd aesthetics and old SMT COMP-looking gear, it fits.

>>145795 Not very, usually it kinda doesnt work u less its from poison ivey or has kryptonite involved iirc.

>>145795 Usually tanks it unless its laced with Kryptonite

Jumper is gonna get a summoner class in Generic Isekai based on Devil Forgemasters from Netflix Castlevania, one basically perfect to accumulate a large number of minions. You think their kills should count for the purpose of gaining xp in the system? Also anyone have suggestions for some fitting features/spells for the class? Stuff like a mental connection to share thei senses and issue commands to the summons from a distance, store and call them on command, maybe switch places with them, that kind of stuff.

>>145780 He is literally nerfed too, and when he realized that he was hurting his boy (finally) he basically let himself be killed. And that took more than a piece of woof in the heart too,

>>145791 MGQ Paradox has many issues; but I still like it. Original joke

>>145792 I'm aware that there's versions of most things on each side of the WoD/CofD divide, but I like the Masquerade more than Requiem. I was unaware that Changeling The Lost was CofD. All that said, which of my lineup do you think I should replace with Sundered World?

>>145799 >You think their kills should count for the purpose of gaining xp in the system? IMO, proximity should matter. Like, if they're near enough to be under your command as "party members", then sure. Not if they're hundreds of miles away manning the fort back home.

>>145796 The comps DO look like a cyberdeck Even if I prefer implants and actual computers

>>145794 Dragon Ball is inspirational in that regard. As long as people have a goal to work towards, there's no heights insurmountable. Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha are all easily planet busters in a world where that kind of power level was fucking mythical before Raditz showed up. Cell has the DNA of Frieza within him and was stronger than him at time of his arc, yet Tien fucking ruined that guy's day, only unable to kill because Cell's regen is god damn ridiculous. Shit's crazy.

>>145799 Proximity is a good idea like anon said UNLESS you have some way of extending range such as a dedicated minion that does only that. A relay minion. That if taken out causes havoc to minions out of your range Plus maybe you can turn monster corpses into powerful minions dependant on their original power. Maybe your chpices of upgrades for your class can instead largely apply to your minions, minion cap, upkeep costs, etc. Like do you want to boost all your minions or raise your cap?

>>145794 How so? I feel like Dragon Ball was always team hard work and dedication, everyone else did that chosen one shit

>>145758 A pity. You’d think if they hated humans so much, the Garou would appreciate a kind Aristoteles like me coming down to introduce a predator species capable of weakening mankind’s hold on universal law. I bet they’d throw a temper tantrum if I melted the polar ice caps or set off Yellowstone too, ungrateful mutts.

>>145802 Replace Mage the Awakening; you can get being a mage from Sundered World while also giving you access to an era of history the other Jumps don't. You can then use the other Jumps (like Changeling) to fuck around with the modern world. I'd move Sundered World to before Changeling for particular timeline reasons, and so you have more time to fuck around in the modern world post-mage. I'd also suggest maybe dropping the fansplats (Princess and Leviathan) and replacing them with WoD Jumps, since WoD lines are kind of harder to initiate into each others business. I'd suggest replacing one of them with Werewolf so you have access to spirits/the Umbra. Also, now that I think about it, you could also replace Sundered World/Mage with Archmage, if you don't mind throwing the powerlevels into the sun.

>>145795 It affects him, but less than it should, like a drug that would paralyze someone out for hours would just make him dizzy, gass that should knock him out for only momentarily disorient him. Poison that would kill a herd of elephants knocks him out and weakens him for a bit. Alo needs to take about a dozen Tylenol if he wants to start feeling something.

>>145809 >you could also replace Sundered World/Mage with Archmage, if you don't mind throwing the powerlevels into the sun. Anon, you can start as a rank 8 spirit with full access to Magic for 1400 points in Sundered World.

>>145811 I actually forgot about the Pangean option (which are different than Spirits).

>>145812 They are, yes. But he is around that level, which according to the jumpdoc, rank 6+ is where the rules go to die. "Make shit up."

>>145791 I’ve said this before over and over and over again, but all of that is much easier in nWoD than oWoD (which has Entropy instead of Fate anyway) >>145794 The really sad thing is that Orochimaru is legitimately the best example of hard work prevailing in Naruto. He is “just” a prodigy, there’s no indigation his bloodline was particularly special other than having good base stats-and he isn’t even a Senju (as far as we know) >>145795 As a general rule of thumb he’s extremely resistant to mundane poisons but is much more vulnerable to things like the wrong kind of radiation poisoning or a magical hydra’s venom or something. >>145808 >kind Aristoteles The problem is what passes for space in oWoD (space is kind of a lie, it’s mostly just the more eldritch parts of the spirit world supporting a thin veneer of a deterministic universe because muh collective belief) is roughly as hostile to earthly life as Nasuverse space is.

>>145814 Space isn't just a lie, it's a government cover up meant to trick people into paying their taxes.

>>145814 >He is “just” a prodigy, there’s no indigation his bloodline was particularly special other than having good base stats-and he isn’t even a Senju (as far as we know) Nta, but worth noting that he gets immensely stronger after taking a zetsu as host body because he gets Hashriama Cells, letting him use Edo Tensei to summon the 4 Hokake at their full potential but still suppress all but Hashirama when desired.

>>145813 Yeah, the Archmage book is the only one that actually gives stats/rules for 6+ Ephemerals.

>>145805 Yep. >>145807 No, dragon ball has elements of the "chosen one" stuff as well, the entire saiyan race is like that and other alien races are also explicitly weaker/stronger than others. The difference is there is still a ladder up for the weaker ones whereas most shounen just don't have that ladder at all. >>145814 I know that's why I gave Orochimaru as an example, he basically only has his brains and unrelenting autism working for him.

>>145812 Pangaeans are different from spirits sure, but functionally they use the same rules - a Rank 8 Pangaean is around the exact same tier as its equivalent in Spirit terms, and Rank 6 is where all the rules get tossed out. Gurdilag was a Rank 6 Idigam; it killed scores of Uratha, ate the awakened souls of any Mage within range, and required countless sacrifices to finally find its ban and bane in order to destroy it. Gurdilag wouldn't have been shit during the age when the Hosts were whole and in their prime.

>>145791 Life had a spell for completely negating Paradox somewhere

>>145795 You'll have more luck with video game status effect magic.

>>145822 For you to what?

>>145809 I don't mind throwing the powerlevels into the sun, but what I do mind is that Archmage is still fundamentally mage and I want to experience more templates, not less. On that basis and the basis that (with fanwanking to ignore the retarded limit of "you're not going to get past gnosis 5 after this jump" in Mage the Awakening) I can figure out a path to Archmastery on my own, I simply do not want to jump Archmage. On a different note, I jumped Mortals as a Purified so I have access to spirits through there, and from everything I heard Werewolves are treated like dogshit by the spirit world regardless so I'm rather leery of jumping them. Under no circumstance will I drop Princess the Hopeful, because magical girls are kino. I will strongly consider dropping Leviathan the Tempest though, and maybe swapping that with Sundered World?

For me to have a long term chain I've come to realize I need to be "building" something and making some sort of numbers increase

>>145782 What's stopping a owod Mage fro. Just making spells that let you ignore Paradox by dumping more mana since Spheres are meant to be freeform anyway?

>>145814 Ah, so I’m just catching flack from the associations there. Kinda understandable I suppose, in that case. I assume that Gaia and Luna loving me due to Beloved (Angel Notes) and Beloved of Gaia (Tsukihime) won’t really help much at all?

>>145803 Yeah that's fair, maybe make XP gain based on absorbing part of the soul like in Konosuba, so you'd need to be close to the deaths to absorb the power. This also encourages jumper to go out and adventure rather than just summon monsters and control them from the safety of his base. >>145806 A relay minion could also work with that, maybe have Simmons absorb power from the kills themselves and transmit some through the bond to the relay summon. >Plus maybe you can turn monster corpses into powerful minions dependant on their original power. I was actually thinking of changing the creation process entirely. My current idea is basically to make it reliant on using a ritual with a drawn summoning circle and offering a monster core/magic stone as catalyst, with the strength of the monster depending on both the power/skill of the caster and the power of the magic stone, so s a novice you can use a magic stone from a goblin to summon an imp, but even with a raid boss core you can't get a top tier summon until you improve. >Maybe your chpices of upgrades for your class can instead largely apply to your minions, minion cap, upkeep costs, etc. Like do you want to boost all your minions or raise your cap? I prefer no cap from the begining, but just having it add buffs to summoned monsters is also a good idea. Could even be represented by unlocking new chants and magic circles to use when summoning them. Thanks.

>>145824 >On a different note, I jumped Mortals as a Purified so I have access to spirits through there, and from everything I heard Werewolves are treated like dogshit by the spirit world regardless so I'm rather leery of jumping them. They're treated like dogshit because Chronicles spirits are psychopathic cannibalistic assholes. They'd treat anyone else the same way they do the Uratha. Worse, even.

>>145824 >but what I do mind is that Archmage is still fundamentally mage and I want to experience more templates, not less Which is why I said you could replace mage/Sundered World with it, you dummy. > I can figure out a path to Archmastery on my own, I simply do not want to jump Archmage Fair. >On a different note, I jumped Mortals as a Purified so I have access to spirits through there, and from everything I heard Werewolves are treated like dogshit by the spirit world regardless so I'm rather leery of jumping them. I meant WoD Werewolf for WoD spirit-world shenanigans. You can already muck around in the Shadow by being a mage, and since you're going mage in Chronicles and thus won't in World, I suggest werewolf in World, not Chronicles. >I will strongly consider dropping Leviathan the Tempest though, and maybe swapping that with Sundered World? Again, I suggest swapping MAGE with Sundered World, because you can be a mage there which, while gaining access to a unique time period, means you don't have to eat a Jump JUST to go mage.

>>145826 The fact that doing so would still trigger Paradox because you're using magic to build your would-be Paradox sink. There are ways to do this that skirt around Paradox entirely, but dumping more mana into them is not the strat.

>>145825 gamer autism affects many young adults

>>145828 Your relay minions must all be of a template called Simmons too now

oWoD Mage jump or CoD Mage jump?

>>145829 Fair. >>145830 Forgive Nyanko for being a dumb, I shall do things now. Specifically swapping Mage with Sundered World. >I suggest werewolf in World, not Chronicles Genuinely: why would I willingly be a Garou?

>>145834 oWoD has a better core Jump, but I think CofD mages can lead comfier lives. The former problem can be gotten around by going to Sundered World, but that also leads to a less-comfy ten years.

>>145834 I like CofD Mage purely because I like the enlightenment and "seeing into the truth of things" aspects of it. OWoD has more reality warping/becoming your own god kinda themes, but CofD's enlightenment/transcending the world themes speak to me more.

>>145804 thats a duel disk

>>145835 >Genuinely: why would I willingly be a Garou? Because at least you aren't other Garou, and so you can fuck around in the Umbra without having to go mage a second time (though you could fanwank CofD Spirit from mage works the same, in which case I'd replace it with either Wraith or the OTHER Changeling).

>>145839 We have another Changeling jump? I'm tempted to replace Leviathan the Tempest with Wraith, but Leviathan's a pretty funky template in and of itself; what's Wraith got going for it?

>>145825 That's how many jumpers get empires

>>145837 I thought you would hate it for being sexist.

>>145840 Ghost politics. Also a nuke.

>>145840 God DAMN IT we don't, BUT you can go WoD Changeling in the Dark Medieval Jump (which gives you the best version of them, too). >what's Wraith got going for it? Just gives you access to stuff the others don't really touch. On that note, I'd actually suggest putting Mummy somewhere on there. They're really weird and deal with unique shit.

How do you make a pdf?

>>145845 Save as, change file type to pdf.

Are Hellsing Werewolves the strongest in the chain?

>>145845 Depends on which word processor you use. Google docs has a "save as" function.

>>145847 I'm pretty sure there's one weird Jump where the vampire's have busted telekinesis and the werewolves move at hypersonic speeds. That said, Hellsing werewolves just turning into mist whenever attacked by anything other than silver is pretty busted.

>>145847 There's probably ones from JRPGs and Isekai or some shit that are planet destroyers for no reason

>>145849 You're probably thinking of Noblesse.

>>145849 >Hellsing werewolves just turning into mist whenever attacked by anything other than silver is pretty busted That's just a logia fruit

>>145843 Ghost politics sounds annoying; nuke sounds interesting. Elaborate? >>145844 >God DAMN IT we don't, BUT you can go WoD Changeling in the Dark Medieval Jump (which gives you the best version of them, too). Might swap things around to go from Sundered World to Dark Medieval? >On that note, I'd actually suggest putting Mummy somewhere on there. They're really weird and deal with unique shit. I have Mummy on the list as second to last; didn't I... >I forgot to list it Forgive the Nyanko, the Nyanko is dumb. My current lineup >Mortal (Purified) >Kindred Of The East >Princess The Hopeful >Sundered World >The Dark Medieval >Leviathan The Tempest >Genius The Transgression >Vampire The Masquerade >Mummy The Curse >Demon The Descent

>>145845 word on the left, google doc on the right

>>145853 >Sundered World to Dark Medieval? NO because that introduces the problem of not having am mage. I will suggest, based on your lineup >Mortal (Purified) >Kindred of the East >Princess the Hopeful >Sundered World (Mage) >The Dark Medieval (Changeling) >Changeling the Lost >Genius the Transgression >Vampire the Masquerade >Mummy the Curse >Demon the Descent The reason I'm suggesting Changeling twice is because they are REALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT between the two versions, and deal with REALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT things.

>>145853 >Elaborate? Everything that has died or been used is now in the underworld place that ghosts reside. The nukes were used, and are capable of being used once more. Also, if you plan on going Wraith, I recommend the perk that merges you with your shadow. Shadows normally are vindictive fucks hellbent on ruining and killing a Wraith.

>>145855 >NO because that introduces the problem of not having am mage No, I mean going first to Sundered World, THEN to Dark Medieval (as you have set up in your own list). As a sort of vague chronology. >The reason I'm suggesting Changeling twice is because they are REALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT between the two versions, and deal with REALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT things. Still a bit leery about it and sad to see Leviathan go, but I'll roll with it. One question: what's a high Rank Changeling look like?

>>145844 aren't oWoD Changelings miserable, or was that Geists?

>>145826 Canonically the world itself punishes attempts to powergame Paradox by just dumping shittons of paradox on you at once at the worst possible moment. >>145827 Not at all. The other shifters were loved too. They’re dead now. Because of the Garou. The Garou know a lot less about Luna and Gaia then they’d like to think. >>145844 >the best version Technically the best version would’ve predated even the Dark Ages era. And more debatably your powers are vulnerable to sufficient amounts of people not believing in fairies, wonder, whimsy and all that good vibe stuff. Although it’s debatable if this would have a major impact in worlds where humans are NOT bearing shards of God. Probably be careful in SMT though. >>145847 Senior Uratha supposedly evolve into “predator bodhisattvas” although this has never been elaborated on. Also Sauron was technically a werewolf. Also Lunars are a thing.

>>145858 oWoD Changelings are constantly miserable as a result of modern society, yes.

>>145857 I'm not too familiar with the WoD Changelings (but know that Dark Medieval gives you the strongest version of them), but CofD Changelings have an eclectic smattering of weird powers. Of note is that they have unique power over the Hedge and can do shit like manipulate the environment there to do things like reshape dangerous obstacles or create tools. High level Changelings can conceivably do shit like turn an open field into a rickety rope bridge over a valley in the middle of a storm. Outside of the Hedge they lack this benefit (but can easily escape into it) but have a scattering of highly eclectic powers that are so varied and obscure that most random supernaturals don't really have an answer to them. They're very trickster-esque, but as always they can be become really fucking dangerous if built right, but that's a matter of wacky minmaxing. >>145858 >>145860 I'd argue CofD Changelings are a lot more miserable.

>>145861 >I'd argue CofD Changelings are a lot more miserable. Right, that's it. Lings were kinda meh but became miserable, while Old Geists were miserable but became happy Cinco de Mayo people in Chronicle

How hard would it be to Genesis/Sorcery up beastmen in Exalted on par with a Garou?

Oh hey I just realized I saved the version of Sundered World that had Mage Bees, not the updated version that removed them. If I were to ask, Shard would say I should use the Bee-free version. But Bees.

>>145846 It doesn't want to open. >>145848 >>145854 I apparently need an account and be online? It's weird, I remember a time where you could write your stuff without all that crap.

>>145864 dont fuck bees

>>145861 I will say this much for CofD Changeling: They have actually accomplished things, and figured out ways of fighting back. In 1e the founders of the seasonal courts tracked down and defeated the embodiments of the seasons themselves in some way. Things got even better in 2e: It’s retconned that Changelings explicitly get Seemings from ESCAPING Arcadia and are stealing fae nature rather than having it forced on them. It also has more rules for Courts being metaphysical defences against Fae and their Huntsmen (new thing in 2e, the old laws of Arcadia before the True Fae waltzed in and subjugated them by literally stealing their hearts. They’re basically the Terminators of Arcadia, more limited than Contract magic for the most part but also sovereign from a lot of the usual rules and limitations of Changelings/Fae) letting them do things like force True Fae to follow certain genre conventions in their territory, or turn their very clothes into bitey minions. There is no face for cackling evil oWoD Changelings can point at and punch. Endless Winter is not sponsored by a specific entity and may well even be Changelings getting swept aside by some other apocalypse’s side effects. Yes, the surviving “noble” fae who escaped into what is probably the Umbra are seen as cowardly and cruel, but they’re not in a position to do anything of value for the most part. I see oWoD Changeling as more miserable because while nWoD Changelings can and do track down and kill their abusers, there is no real hope for oWoD Changelings other than the World of Darkness setting aside it’s grievances and deciding to lighten up. And that just means oWoD Changeling is dependent on Mage and maybe Lucifer for salvation. >>145863 The mutations system means in PURELY physical stat terms it’s relatively easy, but things like unnatural resilience/regeneration and Gifts are harder to emulate because having a bit of spirit-nature empowering you into a divine avenger is kind of a big deal in both settings. I would say it’s solidly doable with a sorcerous working or N/A artifact, though. MAYBE a 5-dot artifact that operates on an individual basis. >>145864 THE BEES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CANON I WAS TRICKED

>>145865 What the fuck have you been writing your jumps on?

>>145868 NTA, but often I do a lot of the preliminary work in Obsidian, Notes, or Notepad++.

>>145867 >THE BEES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CANON I WAS TRICKED THE BEES ARE THE BEST CANON EVER AND YOU SHOULD PUT THEM BACK IN!

>>145867 MAGE BEES BEST BEES

>>145868 I do the things on Notepads first. Now the answer please?

>>145869 Normally I'm not annoyed by NTAs answering questions, but in this particular instance, I am. >>145872 www.google.com/search?q=notepad+to+pdf Use an online txt to pdf converter basically.

>>145847 There was one that gave Vampire Hunter D some trouble so absolutely not.

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!

>>145867 >THE BEES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CANON I WAS TRICKED That may have been a trick but mages CAN BECOME bees very easily.

>>145811 Also question; how do you do this?

>>145867 Why is it that CofD splats always have a bunch of answer to their problems?

Now we know that in Jumpchain, the movie, Shard will be played by Nicholas Cage.

>>145873 This seems fine? Are there problems with this option?

>>145879 No. Jim Carrey.

>>145879 OH NO NOT THE BEES, NOT THE BEES, AHHHHHHH! THEY’RE IN MY JUMPS! MY JUMPS! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>145877 Standard pay2win (until humanity asserts enough dominance over the planet to, potentially, degrade the concept you embody), It’s the biggest purchase in the Pagaean background. The one that’s 80% of being a peer to Daddy Wolf (the other 20% is the Pangaean capstone where he has the gimmick of having something to do with the Uratha). >>145878 The developers realising over time that player agency makes for fun horror games when you’re already offloading a shitton of superpowers, I guess. Honestly I’d trust the CofD dev teams-even the current ones on Beast, at least at a purely mechanical level-to churn out a better game of Exalted than the current Exalted team.

>>145879 He's a china man, so he'll be played by a Hawaiian or a philipino

>>145847 VHD had a werewolf that caused D to put in a modicum of effort like anon said, elder Uratha become things that can ostensibly compete with Archmages and other Rank 6+ things on their own turf, and Kemono Giga (whenever I finish it) has Yuu pick up and toss a whole ass ferris wheel whilst thoroughly weakened from his peak.

>>145883 >implying they care to keep it even that close No, he'll be a black man, and he'll like it. Or, hell, maybe she'll like it.

>>145884 Do we even have a VHD jump?

>>145864 Bees are very important and good in The Secret World, and are incidentally the servants of Best Gaia. Thus, you should only use the Bee-filled version. It making Shard go into conniptions is just a bonus.

>>145879 I wanna be played by Keanu Reeves

>>145875 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jnecnhS-Z4

Movie idea for Pedowood Romance of the 51 states, where America has blown over into a civil war each state for itself type of scenario where the main character is a Lightskinned mullato and a wise vantablack guru is teaching him to tame his white(Yakubian) part to achieve ying/yang balance and unite the states.

>>145890 >51 states What's the 51st (((state)))?

>>145882 Alright, while there's a temptation to be a massive spirit like Father Wolf, I primarily came here for Mage powers and some side goodies. And I've already got spirit powers via Purified. Maybe. I think. Fuck; if I get the Mage capstone as a Pangaean, would I still technically count as a mage? It says I'd have the powers of a mage, but that's not necessarily the same thing. Could I achieve Archmastery as a Pangaean?

>>145892 I was thinking of doing it as a demon to offer magic to my highest cultist, how are demons in cofd?

>>145777 I'd definitely get rid of Leviathan the Tempest, as it is absolutely not worth being a Leviathan.

>>145893 I have no idea! Ask one of the CofD Lore Experts, not the idiot who's asking said experts how to navigate this strange setting.

>>145892 >And I've already got spirit powers via Purified. Maybe. I think. While Purified can buy spirit powers, they can only buy up to 3 dot powers.

>>145892 OKAY, so Pangeans are FUCKING WEIRD. Buckle up, because Pangeans already have mage powers. Yeah. Pangeans are NOT spirits; they're in between flesh and ephemera, and they also don't feed off of concepts so much as represent them. In addition to having spirit-like Influences, they have mage Arcana. Because of all this and some other oddities of how they interact with mages, it's somewhat implied that they might be some kind of degraded Supernal entities post-cosmic retcon. Anyways, mage capstone might mean you can learn more Arcana instead of being limited to what's part of your nature. Maybe. It'd at least give you a much more varied spread. No clue about Archmastery; Pangeans have Imperial-level Influences but can only have Arcana up to 5 dots, and the mage capstone itself is kind of vague on exactly what level it puts you on as a mage.

>>145892 Getting the Mage capstone as a Pangaean is basically the rules lawyer-y way of declaring yourself as a former god of the Supernal who managed to hang onto more of his purview than most of those stranded in the phenomenal world. You cannot be a mage because being a Pangaean is fundamentally alien from the human experience at least, nominally, unless you declare yourself the Pangaean of humanity or some shit. I honestly have no idea how to rule on that because CofD never gave an actual reason why humans don’t have a presiding spirit the way wolves, bulls or presumably bees do. Fanwank something that runs on different rules. The broad difference between an archmage and a Supernal God is greater specialisation in exchange for much more intuitive and rapid fire casting, being able to use Arcana domains at the speed of numina (powers common to normal spirits; think Stand-level “I think and shit happens”) >>145893 Horrifying. At least, the type of demonhood offered in Sundered World. They’re basically metaphysical lies from an ontological tundra that fundamentally lacks one or more Arcana (or in Mage 2e, potentially other aspects of existence) and HUNGERS for it. There are different types of Lower Depths beings but the Akathartoi (“real demons”, the type offered in the jump) are basically self-aware lies who define their history, nature and capabilities through testaments their victims/petitioners write about them. Their repertoire is one of the traditional Seven SIns, and by nature they’re inclined to manifest them in horrible ways.

"Um, you shouldn't use violence even against bad people and pacifism is-" NO GO FUCK YOURSELF EVIL PEOPLE SHOULD FUCKING DIE

>>145897 >>145898 So it's sounding to me like going Pangaean+Mage Capstone very pointedly ISN'T going to get me the full Mage experience, but gets me like 90% of it at a far higher level (with the last 10% being versatility only available to humanity). That doesn't make things easier for me. ...Hey Shard, what happens if we get the Drop-in capstone (demon) as a Mage?

>>145893 There are like a dozen things that call themselves or might be described as "demons", but Shard already answered about the ones represented in Sundered World. Those are Akathartoi from the Lower Depths (specifically Inferno). The more common use of "demon" in CofD refers to the Unchained, which are rogue biomechanical angelic abominations that severed themselves (sometimes by accident) from the God Machine, which is like a living universal cause and effect chain. THOSE demons exploit glitches in reality to fuck things up in weird reality-glitch ways.

>>145899 Gargantia agrees with you though? At least that bad, non-mindless animal people should die and that perpetuating the war between two hegemonizing empires is pointless and stupid.

>>145899 Does Vinland Saga have a jump? If not, why is it here?

>rules lawyer-y way I fucked up remembering how it and Supernal gods work a little. Let me amend that: Having the Mage capstone as a Supernal god is fundamentally FUCKING weird because it means in additional to your Pangaean capabilities you have a potent-by-Neolithic-standards grasp of magic for human and can learn it like one and share it and argjn;arlgjnarw[ljnq[wr I guess it is kind of like being the missing human Pangaean by default. >>145897 >No clue about Archmastery; Pangeans have Imperial-level Influences but can only have Arcana up to 5 dots, and the mage capstone itself is kind of vague on exactly what level it puts you on as a mage. It’s vague because the interaction is weird and vague as hell, though I will say at the minimum the intention is for you to be a Gnosis 5 guy. Also the higher two tier purchases of Pangaean are intended to work on the godlike entity rules on p. 55-56 of Imperial Mysteries (who can manifest higher-tier Arcana effects as numina) >>145900 I think by definition that makes you a demon riding around in a hollowed-out mage body and soul, either that or some kind of incredibly fucked up symbiosis. The point is you’d be a weird symbiosis of metaphysical truth and lie, and probably by definition the Lower Depths equivalent of a Qlippoth-a guy hollowed out by a malefic, anti-reality force that can occasionally infect people to pull them into it’s Domain Expansion.

>>145904 Frankly that sounds awesome. >either that or some kind of incredibly fucked up symbiosis Would having "An Unequal Joining" tilt things closer in that direction?

>>145899 Chamber is fine and a homie to the end who just wants his pilot-son to live his own right instead of die fighting in a war against space squids who aren’t even sentient enough to remember why the fight started anymore, the other two can go get stuffed though. Especially when Vinland Saga ends in a way that makes it’s own moral ring hollow. >>145905 Probably.

>>145904 >(who can manifest higher-tier Arcana effects as numina) I distinguish between the 6+ Influences/Numina and actual Arcana because Pangeans explicitly get both, so denoted the difference is important. High-Rank spirits don't get Arcana, but their Influences/Numina model the effects of Imperial Practices with a few caveats. Again, it might not seem important, but I feel it is since Pangeans get both Arcana and Influence.

>>145904 >>145907 Actually, I just glossed over the word "effects" so most of that post is pointless.

It seems to me that the best solution would be to just take Sundered World as a Pangaean AND Mage the Awakening to get everything, but I don't have enough room left in my WoD Arc to do that. In lieu of that, my Sundered World build. WoD - Sundered World Origin: The Wise -200 CP Perks >An Unequal Joining -200 CP >Lady-In-Waiting Of Wounds (Gluttony) -600 CP >The Fire Of Wisdom (Path of the Storm/Obrimos) -Free >Community Mystic -Free >Astral Diplomacy -100 CP >To Hell With The Gods -200 CP >Beacon Of Awakening -300 CP Items >Tools Of Resonance -Free >The Omphalos Stone -300 CP Drawbacks >Mystery For The Ages +0 CP >Pariah +100 CP >The Lonely Planet +200 CP >Walking With Horrors +300 CP >Spiritual Distancing +300 CP

>>145677 Oh hey, I just realized that the pope in Link Makes A Wish is Merasmus from tf2. Should I include his powers in the wizard origin, or keep it to just stuff seen in the animations?

>>145910 You can always drop Leviathan for not being canon.

>>145912 I've already dropped Leviathan. See >>145857.

>>145913 Unless you're really attached to starting in Mortal, you can skip it because you're already getting spirit stuff from Sundered World/Mage.

>>145914 I am indeed very attached to starting in Mortal.

>>145915 Then delete Kuei Jin because everyone thinks they're weird and dumb anyways.

>>145916 It's specifically because they're weird and have their own cool things going on that I'm taking Kuei Jin.

>>145910 I wonder if an omphalos stone would help owod magic not fuck up? I bet the atlantean runes would help too

>>145910 Why aren't you a drop in? With the item stipend probably it would be more efficient

>>145910 You could always drop Genius the Transgression? They're just bog standard mad scientists, and I'm pretty sure a mage can do everything a Genius can do. An OWoD mage would definitely be able to do anything a Genius can do

>>145919 I'm not Drop-In because I want to be a mage, and even if I get the Mage capstone that won't make me a proper mage in and of itself (I think). >>145920 I want more templates, not less, and just because a Mage could do everything a Genius could do doesn't make a Genius worthless.

>>145886 oh boy do we have one

>>145920 Doesn't Genius have a way to completely eliminate the Genius equivalent to Paradox?

>>145910 Also, since you're going to Sundered World, just some lore stuff; in this era Sleepers know about the mages and they serve roles like priests and shamans. HOWEVER, Paradox, Quiescence, and Dissonance is still a thing. Sleepers can't actively watch or remember obviously visible mage spells, but they know that mages are working magic (usually on their behalf) when they do shit like ward away pestilence or bring about good harvests.

>>145922 It seems to be a reddit effort. >https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/filename/vampire%20hunter%20d%20.pdf/ Maybe you're thinking of Record of a Fallen Vampire?

>>145849 I'm pretty sure you're talking about The Hunter, a jump some anon made for what was apparently a single story in a short story collection off of Kindle Unlimited?

>>145918 Assuming basic compatibility between the forms of magic, probably. It is by definition a massive chunk of spiritual power. Atlantean runes probably would too simply because they’re imposing facets of reality alien from the Consensus and more tolerant of mystical willworking. >>145920 Pretty much, although nWoD mage is generally slower on the draw than Genius once the preptime phase of a Wonder/spell is complete. >>145923 Needle Grail. …it’s extremely vague what it is in the lore though, other than the creators affirmed it at least exists in some capacity. Despite having picked it myself I’m with Konata in finding it weird to be offered in-jump. It’s like being able to just purchase Golconda in VtM.

>>145903 Because he has no enemies.

>>145898 >Spoiler How strong WOULD a Pangaen of humanity be?

>>145875 THE FEAR I'M COVERED IN BEES I'M REALLY SAD I'M ON FIRE AND ALSO I'M A SPACEMAN

>>145926 https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5odlvi/respect_the_hunter_10_great_tales_of_man/ Is this him?

>>145927 >It’s like being able to just purchase Golconda in VtM. Being able to just purchase Golconda does actually make more sense, since Golconda wasn't actually all that rare in the first edition of V:tM. It was a goal players were expected to seek and there were supposed to be traveling Golconda evangelists trying to help all kindred achieve it Mind you, 1e Golconda was a rather different thing too. It was a matter of coming to accept your curse, being genuinely remorseful about your sins, and finding a way to repent said since, with the reward being that you'll never frenzy due to becoming one with your beast, needing only a single point of blood a week, and not suffering from the Thirst of Ages. It also might just turn you human again instead, if you're specifically seeking out a way to become human again ... Man, I forgot how weird the rules of 1e V:tM were. Like, you legitimately could actually become human again by killing your Sire back then, if the DM agreed.

>>145927 do any of the nwod/cofd jumps have a fanfic toggle?

How would an Eldar react to a human wiggling his fingers and suddenly she can no longer feel She Who Thirsts hungering for her soul?

>>145930 What about The End?

>>145934 see The Dark Eldar™

>>145936 In the case of the Dark Eldar jumper would instead of wiggling his fingers, swing his sword through the air, severing the link draining her soul.

>>145934 Assume that you're an agent of Slaanesh trying to deceive them into complacency.

>>145934 I guess it depends on the Eldar. A Solitaire would laugh probably.

>>145939 I'm now imagining a clown Eldar holding a stick and poking jumper repeatedly to prompt him to do something weird.

Can Elder Scrolls magic do extradimensional storage? The closest I'd think of would be like, Conjuration and storing something in Oblivion, but IIRC we only ever see temporary items (e.g. spectral axes, etc) or allies (dremora, summons). I'm assuming Oblivion even exists post-jump, but I think that's reasonable assuming you bought a relevant option with CP.

>>145941 >Can Elder Scrolls magic do extradimensional storage? I don't see why it couldn't?

>>145932 Oh yeah, just to be clear I mean the weird enlightenment superpower version of Golconda that Saulot typically has in his more dickish appearances. >>145933 Not that I remember. >>145934 Probably credit it to the indomitable Eldar spirit. >>145929 This question makes my head hurt a little even though I kind of did that in my own chain (Arisen myth and heresy comparing humanity to the image of the temakh helped justify it). Depending on how you qualify all the various playable splats (which, apart from demon, are all human-derived) humanity is at the minimum some kind of Eevee for all sorts of divine energies that upset the spirit ecology by being better adapted than any other form of potentially Supernal-sensitive organism, and at maximum the big fish of the solar system. I would say a human Pangaean would by definition have to be Rank 6 at the very MINIMUM in Sundered World since some of the Wise have gone around slaying lesser Pangaeans already, and humanity as a whole was stated to be further weakening Father Wolf due to the hunt lessening in important as a concept. And there is a strong argument for rank 8.

Would you a primarch?

>>145927 >Atlantean runes probably would too simply because they’re imposing facets of reality alien from the Consensus and more tolerant of mystical willworking. Oh hey I guess putting the rock on top of my tower and covering the walls within the elevator shafts and across the outside really was a good idea. The bad idea was probably the part where I painted them in gold on onyx black background. So gaudy.

>>145937 All Eldar are by default Dark Eldar. The Space Elves are just straight up Vulcans, and like Vulcans, who used to be homicidal maniacs in a constant state of mental breakdown before being forced to rigidly control themselves after reaching the point of almost destroying their own society, the Eldar natural state is murder rape but because of the threat of Slaanesh, after they murder raped too hard and destroyed several societies with the birth of a Chaos God, they're forced to control themselves. Born To Dark Eldar, Forced To Craftworld.

>>145944 I like the one who looks like Sadako

>>145947 ...Don't really see it for any of them.

>>145947 >Sadako Curze?

>>145948 >>145949 Curze.

Speaking of Changelings, Pangaeans, and the like; could someone suggest a jump that makes it so that lack of worship/belief/prominense distinctly ''doesn't' reduce your powers?

>>145951 I admire your taste but question your sanity, also the last of them. Strangely I don't think there is a proper one for Horus, Guilliman or Alpharius, though I think I've seen each in different art by the same person.

>>145953 I know barely anything about 40k and nothing about curze. I like her because she looks like sadako.

>>145954 In some ways she also acts like Sadako.

>>145952 Maybe The Meaning Of This Parable from We Know The Devil? It makes it so that powers that depend on external sources don't depend on them anymore

>>145944 >>145949 >>145953 Those are BABES!

>>145943 >and humanity as a whole was stated to be further weakening Father Wolf due to the hunt lessening in important as a concept What if Civilisation was created by the Pangaean of humanity as part of a plan to domesticate the other Pangaeans into submissive femboy slaves?

>>145647 Gonna use that idol to turn Link into a thicc booty femboy.

>>145944 >>145949 >>145953 I had this entire side arc where I tried to recreate the primarch Project and instead make them girls,, This was after the initial heresy and after bringing in the loyalist traitors with me, I made them as daughters to the Primarchs instead with me being their Uncle. And for a long time it was awful, I started to understand the Emperor afterwards a bit everytime they got mad at me

>>145855 Okay, looking between Changeling The Lost and The Dark Medieval, I can vaguely get the sense that they're different things. But is being a Fae in Dark Medieval really all it's cracked up to be? I'm thinking of going back, swapping around to being a Pangaean in Sundered World, then replacing Dark Medieval with Mage The Awakening.

>>145961 WoD Changeling was just to get access to parts of the world that none of the others really touch on.

>>145962 That all but settles my decision to go back and rearrange things, but could you elaborate what those parts of the world actually are?

>>145955 Nice

>>145958 Can a pangean create the thing it represents?

>>145964 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sMQpWCNTQw

>>145963 The Dreaming, and entire alternate dimension which, while touching it at some points, is entirely different from the Umbra.

>>145958 Contrived fetish post aside, there is no canon Pangaean of humanity. This is never explained or given any kind of context or underlying implication. >>145960 This is why neither the Emperor nor anyone devoted to him cared about tracking down Erda once she went innacaves. >>145961 >Dark Medieval Like I said, the main selling point is (sphere) 5-level effects but you don’t have to worry about Paradox and you can spam them on a whim. I would argue Changeling is also relatively localised and specific compared to, say, the bullshit of Entropy but that’s open to debate. >>145965 That’s something all spirits of great power can, so yes.

>>145953 >>145957 I was wrong, though the Smurf is still not a proper one. Also better Magnus. Ok I'm done, posted too many of these. Definitely want to do the Primarchs scenario to grab the full set.

>>145968 >Contrived fetish post aside, there is no canon Pangaean of humanity. This is never explained or given any kind of context or underlying implication. ...So, it is totally okay to be a Pangaean of Humanity? What would that even look like?

>>145968 What would a changeling with living nightmare look like? They are the only ones without examples

>>145966 I like violent girls. They’re fun to tame. Also, have Zelda.

>>145969 You didn't post enough, if anything. Especially naked ones~~

>>145749 If you wanna understand anything about Danmachi Fandom, understand this; a lot of complaints are petty ignorable bullshit or outright reader dumbassery. What *isn't* bullshit, thought, is that Omori accumulated an absolutely incredible amount of ill-will when he posted his totally-not-spite-fic "What IF" about fandom's favourite pairing. Like, holy shit. What the fuck were you thinking dude. In other news, Danmachi jump is technically done, but is also kinda shit. I am gonna sit on it for awhile.

>>145972 Definitely going to grab Boob Up, Catgirl, and Genderswap so I can turn people into well endowed catgirls

>>145973 This is not the horny thread, so I can't post naked primarchs. Also the only ones I haven't posted are just slight variations or an older version of the Lion.

>>145972 I have no idea what this is for, but I like it >it wouldn't be a loz game without someone commenting on Zelda's Ass. Bruh, it's only BotW/TotK Zelda.

>>145968 So there's nothing saying that it CAN'T be true?

>>145976 Naked, half naked, without their armor...

...On the other hand, being a weird sort of Demon/Mage hybrid is really cool. Pangaean of Humanity, or Demon/Mage hybrid...

>>145977 The hitbox meme originated in smash, which used link between worlds Zelda as the basis iirc. So no, it’s not just that one. Also, see >>145647 for the sauce.

>>145974 I have a bit of a problem because albert is way to exaggerated, he makes literally anyone else look bad, most of my problems are connected to the black dragon power

>>145980 Pangeans should have more raw power, but a Lower Depths-tainted akathartoi/mage has cocaine.

>>145981 Touche, but the Zelda Smash took a while to fly. >>145647 .... What the fuuuuuuuuck?

>>145980 As a demon mage you can offer magical powers to your followers

>>145944 >Would? No as i like better shota or women not beefcake. I would do 40k chain but I always end with focusing with starting in Primarch jump but that means that I end with shiton of supertranshumans that will roll almost every world besides 40k. That make me bored fast and thinking who would do what with 100k+ characters is way too much for me. If there was only way to not take your legion then I could do it but well no way to say no to legion in jump with drawback or other way.

>>145970 I have no clue because canonically there isn’t one for no particular reason, but at the same time I can’t see it as being anymore imbalanced than say-being the Pangaean of Predation itself is given concept-AIDS aside Father Wolf was top dog around the place for the longest time. All I can really say is the specifics of whatever other purchases you take will probably define your particular interpretation of it (as with all Pangaeans), and that like most known Pangaeans it’s probably primitive in behaviour and nature. >>145971 >living nightmare Nani? Can’t find it in me jump >>145978 Nothing except the setting saying there isn’t one.

>>145987 >Nani? Can’t find it in me jump Living Nightmare is the generic power levels perk in the OWOD Dark Medieval jump

>>145983 >>145985 >>145987 Fuck it. I can already get Spirit Powers as a Purified (yes they only go up to Rank 3, I have a way around that as well), and from what I can tell this is the only WoD jump that lets you get Akathartoi powers, so Demon/Mage hybrid it is. I still don't really like Dark Medieval though, so what should I replace that with...?

>>145989 Beast

>>145989 If you're okay with OWOD jumps, try Hunter. You can get a lot of different powersets from that

Does jumper pay his waifus for housework?

>>145859 Not surprised, am disappointed. Guess I’ll just have to save Gaea by myself.

What martial art do you think would suit a horse anthro/beastman? I was thinking something kickboxing related.

>>145994 I don't know, but I want to teach a normal horse Capoeira.

>>145988 Oh. Ask Generic, I’m not the jumpmaker. >>145992 I have only had ever one OFFICIAL waifu (as opposed to the minions, comrades, slaves, zealots and senior business partner who just happen to enjoy more operational leeway, agency and emotional support than their title implies) but neither of us needed to do the housework because I awakened the genius loci of any building we moved into properly. The house does it’s own work. And is paid in traces of spiritual energy from the inhabitants.

>>145994 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_stance Keep scrolling down

>>145990 No. >>145991 Looked at it, the jump doesn't really interest me.

>>145994 Capoeira would be a good choice.

>>145994 Horse style is one of the components of Xingyi Quan and I came across this https://www.markrashid.com/aibado-aikido-for-horse-people which as the link says is aikido for horse people.

>>146000 Nice to see you can always find something new on the internet.

>>145934 Depends on the Eldar. Craftsworlder would put the blame on some insane Farseer scheme, Solitaires would just laugh and Dark Eldars would just continue as usual.

Why is it that settings where humans are an invasive species that warps the laws of reality for their collective benefit never have a "God of Humanity" hanging around pushing human supremacy onto everything?

>>146003 I mean, in CofD there kind of is, they're just not in the Shadow/Pangea. Humanity is very much the Exarchs' chosen species (this is not a good thing).

>>146003 Because humans are always depicted as a race full of cultural divisions/ethnicities instead of being a singular culture like other races. So you can't have a god of humanity unless he's a chimera or something like a Primordial from Exalted with multiple souls.

>>146003 >Why is it that settings where humans are an invasive species that warps the laws of reality for their collective benefit ... like?

If I released a pack of Uratha into Old World of Darkness, what would happen?

>>146007 >Ah, others of our kind! What's the situation? >What the fuck >What the fuck is wrong with you

Let's see... 1d5 = 2 >Beast No. >Leviathan >Promethian >Werewolf The Apocalypse Forsaken >Wraith

>>146006 Touhou.

>>145971 A Living Nightmare Fae has basically filled out their entire character sheet. They're peak human in most skills and stats, and have fully mastered all Fae magic to the highest degrees. >>146007 Remembering that most Uratha are Pure, they likely launch a holy war against somebody else/themselves the moment they contact the local spirit world and get told that the spirits all love Luna and her Auspice having werewolf champions.

>>146006 World of Darkness and Fate. SMT as well, I think?

>>146011 Could you point out a list of canon Treasures for Fae?

>>145987 is there a Pangaean of Agriculture that took over after Wolf's Hunter-Gatherer phase ended?

>>146013 Apparently, no one has ever cared enough about Changeling to make a wiki of it. The best I could find is this list of names and page numbers: https://www.pen-paper.net/indices/wod/treasures.pdf

>>146015 >no one has ever cared enough about Changeling to make a wiki of it Same with most of White Wolf i guess.

>>146014 Oh no, all known Pangaeans way predate agriculture. In fact it’s directly stated that agriculture is a HUMAN created concept. The death of Father Wolf also resulted in the end of Pangaea, meaning all Pangaeans either died, were reduced to “merely” powerful spirits in the Gauntlet or became random huge monsters stuck in the physical world.

>>146015 Most of tabletop fanmade content was behind forums, and most of these forums died. RIFTS is a perfect example.

>>146015 Most of the stuff was on forums, of which a good amount got either nuked or died off.

>>146018 >>146019 Ah yes, all the fanmade Yozis and their Charms, now lost to memory.

>>145667 Hey, did we get a new janny named "nick"? Or is that just one of the global jannys?

>>146017 Exept the Pangaean of humanity who should be in a constant state of winning.

>>146017 Actually, the degradation of the Pangeans took place over a long period of time afterwards (with potential implications that not all of them suffered this fate). The ones that became physical have generally died out over time, while the ones that went spirit (and implicitely those that may have kept their nature) still lurking in the Deep Shadow. For instance, Bird is implied to still be fucking with space up to what I think were the 1700s, and may be the patron behind one of the Rapt listed in Nameless and Accursed.

>>146020 Some embers remain though, hidden in pdfs within archives or in the remnants of increasingly failing wikidot sites.

>>146017 the talk of forums reminds me, you ever see the Pangaean stats on the Onyx path forums by one of the writers?

>>146023 Ah, really? Things must’ve moved on in 2e or late 1e since I’m pretty sure the extinction line was the only word for a while. >>146025 Afraid not, life was…busy around the time Pangaeans were the new hotness.

>>146025 Yes, Bird is fucking crazy. >>146027 I'm pretty sure Pangeans were a 2E thing and that they were just BIG SPIRITS in 1E. But anyways yeah, we get a glimpse of a suspiciously Bird-like THING in the pirate section of Dark Ages, and what happened to the people trying to track down Spiral's Deep Shadow sponsor is what just so happened to have happened to Bird's Bane.

>>146028 I could’ve sworn I recall the term tossed around in 1e but it’s been so long ago that if you can name a specific entity, I’m probably hallucinating AI-style. I unironically wanted to see a Mountain-swarm in the present day at some point (for those who don’t know, yes Pangaeans can apparently be geographical features as well as animals). Imagine some poor soul waking up one day with his face crumbling into endless pebbles or something.

>>146029 Yeah, I am VERY certain that Dark Ages is what introduced Pangeans (it even introduces the term as a correction to prior lore, referencing that Father Wolf was referred to as a spirit in prior lore). and yeah, Mountain was one of the listed Pangeans, and they can be either Spirit+Life or Spirit+Matter to affect.

>>145972 What Zelda jump is that from, Blade?

Finished building for Changeling the Lost; my general plan here is to basically use Pledgesmith and Pact-Binder to make all the contracts that anyone else could've just inherited, starting from the ground up with potential to grow far greater than anyone else. Please go ahead and tell me why everything I did is wrong and what the actual crazy broken build would be. WoD - Changeling The Lost Location: Seoul, South Korea Origin: Child -50 CP Age: 10 Time Spent In Arcadia: 38 Years Time Passed On Earth: 2 Gender: Female Seeming: The Wizened (Oracle) Seasonal Court: None Perks >Mental Focus -Free >Social Focus -50 CP >Wyrd -Free >Glamour -Free >Clarity -Free >Another Kith (Fatemaker) -100 CP >Hollow -100 CP >Brownie's Boon -100 CP >Precocious -100 CP >Striking Looks -200 CP >Oneiromancy -100 CP >Pledgesmith -150 CP >Pact-Binder -600 CP Items >Cell Phone -Free >Street Clothing -Free >Fairy Garden -50 CP Contracts >Goblin-Scorned +100 CP >Interesting +200 CP >Perfectly Normal Humans +300 CP

>>146027 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page8#post857671 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page10#post859687 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page24#post1209690 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page25#post1223559 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page27#post1232652 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page28#post1243796 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page29#post1350478 here's the bunch https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page27#post1236727 this seems to be something for modern pangaeans https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page12#post860256 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page18#post869255 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page18#post869302 https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/the-new-world-of-darkness/werewolf-the-forsaken/855280-pangaea-unleashed/page21#post899934 and some misc tidbits about magic, wolf, and humans I saw while looking for the stats

>>146033 Oh fuck there's a lot more than I knew, I only read Snake and Bird.

How detail-oriented are you, Jumpers? Do you learn everything you can about a situation before jumping in? Wing it entirely? Something in between?

>>146035 >Obey Your Master Peak American horse girl.

>>146035 I've wound up watching multiple different shows and movies and reading multiple books because of jumpchain. Though, there are times I just wiki dive.

>>146035 I do more research for chains that meaningfully interact with settings, and less for god-jumpers just breezing through for the sake of this one character/perk/opportunity to flex.

>>146024 It is occasionally a pain to find these pdf, so thanks. I'll be using this thread as an archive now.

>>145952 Flow has a perk where people thinking about you counts as worship.

>>146040 That is not what I asked for even slightly.

>>146036 It's kind of funny that it's the japanese horse who is the fat one in the rivalry.

>>146003 Shut the fuck up you stupid stoat You're ugly. >>146021 >nick I prefer you over that faggot. He owes me money.

>>145952 Nurtured Nature from Monogatari lets you ignore changes and drawbacks from belief while keeping the benefits. I think that should cover a lack of belief too.

Humans are basically sentient cockroaches in fantasy settings if you think about it. Most races could just kill them with ease but they are /everywhere/ like how cockroaches can be found on every continent but Antarctica.

>>145952 One of the devil capstones allows you to retain powers fuelled by the emotions of yourself and others at the highest level you achieved even after the supply runs dry.

>>146045 Goblins fit that description better I think.

>>146045 I always found the description of ants better than cockroaches. We do build our own hives after all.

>>146049 Termites are a hive-building eusocial cockroach species.

>>146050 I highly doubt that, but i'm going to believe you.

>>146051 That's... actually really easy to look up. Like, you can verify that immediately.

>>146052 huh, you are actually right after all. You can always learn something on the internet.

Good morning friends.

>>146054 Good morning friend. Did you sleep well?

>>146054 good morning, wol.

>>146055 No complaints.

>>145892 >Alright, while there's a temptation to be a massive spirit like Father Wolf If this is for your regular chain, I’d expect you to be the Light that is the origin of all Princesses.

>>146053 HEY KIDS want some more COOL BUG FACTS about FUCKIGN TERMITE??? Did you know that termites are generally monogamous? Most observed species form hives between a queen and a single breeding male, where for the duration of the hive's lifespan the queen will continue to only mate with the initial chosen male and not accept any other mates.

>>146058 This is not, in fact, for my regular chain. This is for a side chain. In fact, a secondary side porn chain.

>>146059 pretty cool fact!

>>145972 >Boob Up Simple, but practical. >Happy Wife What about Happy Life? >World Peace >Or maybe this was just commentary on how the world would be more peaceful if Zoe wasn’t a princess anymore? Based on what you’ve said, I’d believe it. >One Million Rupees >”Divided up and hidden all over the kingdom!”

>>146060 Understandable, continue.

>>146059 Based termites

>>146064 kek

>>146054 Mornin' mate.

>>146064 INDEED, and FURTHER, within termites it is KNOWN that homosexual pairing sporadically occurs, generally in instances where termites broken away from a hive fail to find a partner of the opposite sex. In these instances of homosexual termite pairings, they get to work building a nest as usual, but are incapable of procreating to create workers. When introduced to available mates of the opposite sex or an already taken mate, the homosexual termites become murderous towards any perceived rivals, including each other, and attempt to procreate heterosexually in competition with one another and any pre-existing mate.

>>146067 huh

>>146067 gay until the pussy comes around? Getting better and better. I'm genuinely pleased to learn for the first time in 43 years.

>>146059 >tmw termites eating your house is just all the other 'mites malding so hard they're literally chewing the furniture

>>146069 >gay until the pussy comes around? It sounded like the other way around ric, Yuri until they saw cock >learn for the first time in 43 years. You're 43?

>>145972 Can the ass part of boobs up work on guys as well?

>>146071 >Yuri until they saw cock Extremely based. Wow, what a species >>146071 >You're 43? bitch ass nigga don't try to guess my age. I could be your grandaddy

>>146069 This thread is straight until the bussy comes around.

>>146073 >bitch ass nigga don't try to guess my age. I could be your grandaddy You called yourself 43 and no you can't.

>>146069 >43 Damn you really are a old ass, crusty ass bitch.

>>146069 >>146071 It's both. Unlike many other insect species (such as bees, wasps, ants, etc), termite workers are actually an even mixture of males and females. Also they remain sterile and simply don't mature into adults. Meaning that technically you've got the queen fucking her mate and an army of neutered child laborers building the rest of the colony.

>>146069 INDEED, though it is generally debated whether the observance of heterosexual monogamy in eusocial insect species is primarily derived from a genetic impetus, or a social consequence of the eusocial hive-model. However, the murderous competition drive that breaks apart homosexual pairings appears to be a biological impulse, and is a demonstrable crossbreed of two typically conflicting instincts (ordinarily, when two termite nests make contact via their tunnels, they enter a competitive murder mode; in this case, already nesting but homosexual termites find their warring instincts activated at the same time as their procreative urges, a fascinating combination of otherwise simple biological drives).

>>146074 Psycho isn't the whole thread >>146075 bitch ass nigga shut yo goddamn mouth. don't make me get the belt and whip you like I whip yo mama. >>146076 fuck you I'm still young damn kids not respecting their betters. back in my day you would get a good beating for that lip and then another for taking a beating like a bitch. Learn to stand up for yourself, damn brats. I swear all these technology thing have you growing up weird.

>>146078 >bugmen driven into homicidal rage by yaoi/yuri This explains so much.

>>146078 >>146077 Incredibly based and interesting. I'm learning new things. And enjoying it!

>>146079 >bitch ass nigga shut yo goddamn mouth. don't make me get the belt and whip you like I whip yo mama. Hey old man, What's it like to be able to buy a house and how was the economy like when it still worked and you could get a burger for 15 cents?

Is Himeanon having a mental breakdown and spilling bug facts everywhere?

>>146082 Almost as good as knowing I'm going to retire and be maintained by your work, little ass-slave. Please keep going to wageslave on bus and live in a dingly rented apartment, so I can enjoy my actual house, a car, and free money because I'm old. Oh and not to mention all the cool stuff we could do a few decades ago that got banned during your early days because you don't deserve fun. Also I hope you don't mind how we contaminated the planet. Not that it matters since I'll be long gone before seeing the worst of it.

>>146003 Every race in the Forgotten Realms has an origin god, except humans. The official lore was they were stolen from different parts of Earth to be used as slaves and just rebelled and took over.

On an entirely unrelated note, a pox upon Generic Anon. Not for his shitposting habits, but because he makes jumps with a very tiny font size that forces me to to zoom in the PDF multiple times just to read it.

>>146086 Don't mention that bitch in front of me. He owes me money.

Also, while primarily I've been drawing from entomological studies, I believe there is a more reliable academic source we can call on; Biblical studies. Did you know that at a few points in the Greek Bible, that a word translatable to "Hornet" or "Wasp" is used to describe the expulsion of the Canaanites, and can be alternatively interpreted by Biblical scholars as being metaphorical language for the sowing of fear and terrorism, or as them being physically assailed by FUCKING WASPS? What does this mean for us? Are the Israelis and the WASPS connected? I do not know. I simply find it curious. >>146083 Do NOT fucking CALL me THAT.

>>146088 It's alright Himeanon, we're here for you in these trying times.

>>146088 >Are the Israelis and the WASPS connected? I do not know. I simply find it curious. Tell me more, anon. I require your knowledge and wisdom

For those that care, the DLC Digimon for Time Stranger have basically been leaked. So you can go find that if you want, or if you want it to stay a surprise avoid discussion/speculation videos on the topic.

You think it would be a bad idea as True Dragon in dnD to enforce prima nocta on your vassal Kobold tribes to breed an army of half-dragons?

>>146092 Yes, on the basis that prima nocta is a retarded and cringe practice in and of itself. Just get a harem or breeding stables rather than a culture of NTR.

>>146090 It's very simple and I can't add much more, in Exodus and Deuteronomy certain language-choice is used for the driving away of Israel's enemies and rivals, the possibly allegorical word-choice being translatable as "hornets" or "wasps". As the Tora became the Bible, written in Greek, the word-choice used fell on the side of "hornets" which were differentiated from wasps by Aristotle in his History of Animals. However, tracing the issue further than the Greek interpretation, it is still possible to link Israel to WASPS. What this means I certainly cannot yet fathom. The implications are simply beyond me.

>>146094 *Torah I am getting tired

>>146094 I understand anon. I must impregnate students.

Is the site sorta laggy for anyone else?

>>146079 Is your phat ass still perky in your old age or has it begun to sag?

>>145941 You can probably take a shortcut by doing some kind of reverse Conjuration shenanigans to store stuff in an Oblivion Plane, but unless you make a Pact with a Daedric Lord then either they or the Daedra under their control might steal your shit. >>146059 does that mean if you kill her mate the hive is doomed?

>>146099 Not generally, when that occurs an existing worker generally undergoes a change into a breeding-capable adult and takes the role.

>>146079 lol (lmao)

Final members of the team, Ares and Athena, overpowered babies essentially with one half being raised from eggs and then the other half coming from Arceus's miraculous creation powers. I imagine after finding Arceus I'll make a point out of going around the world looking for legendaries and getting samples of every Pokemon possible to build a genetic database for when I eventually come back. Next Jump is Street Fighter, but I'll have to fix the Jump first before I can go. I think half my team will be as Pokemon while these two and their mom will get imported since I can't rely on them staying settled or following commands as easily.

>>146096 >>145981 If I were to pick you up in Generic Ricrod and take you to a jump where you would be gifted with a beauty perk what would you want to look like? Do you have an image as an example? Blade can be a futa if he wants.

>>146094 Question: how much damage could Himeno do if, instead of being infected by Wasps, she was Embraced as a Cainite?

>>146104 She'd do even more damage than in canon. It'd be the exact same situation except instead of brainwashed crazies you'd just have ghouls.

>>146102 >but I'll have to fix the Jump first before I can go as in you're gonna make changes to it or what?

>>146105 Which Bloodline would maximize Himeno's warcrimes, do you think?

>>146104 She's die horribly because she's fucking incompetent and coasts off of everything being an inside job + plot armor. She'd have no idea what she could do without anyone to teach her, she has worse brainwashing abilities which have worse downsides (for her). I fully expect her to burn because she doesn't realize she's a vampire yet and is out in the open sometime when the sun comes up. >>146105 Ghouls are SIGNIFICANTLY harder to make than Soldiers, and Vampires have less control over them. Himeno wouldn't even know how to make them either.

>>146107 Tzimisce.

>>146094 Is it a good idea to get the wasp companion to sting Himeno before she turns into a queen? I don't want to ruin her life or anything

>>146110 Okay, so that would stop a lot of bullshit but you'd run into problems with an existing Queen who's hiding in her school from the start and has been manipulating events to get Himeno to become a Queen and do all the bullshit she goes on to do. Basically you'd be stealing Himeno out from under someone already closely watching her who'd notice.

>>146108 >I fully expect her to burn because she doesn't realize she's a vampire yet and is out in the open sometime when the sun comes up If I give her a detailed and in-depth notebook labeled "so you're a Vampire; now what?" that explains what she is now and how to survive with a big sticker with the words "READ ME" in big red letters on the front, would that affect her odds of survival? Or is she so retarded that she'd completely ignore the manual?

>>146110 >I don't want to ruin her life or anything for what purpose

>>146110 Her life is already ruined, that's kind of the whole point.

>>146112 She wouldn't ignore the manual but there's no guarantee it'd help her get a handle on any Disciplines more complicated than Potency. It'd stop her from immediately dying, but she is really, really bad at everything.

>>146115 It'd be really funny if she figures out how to Ghoul someone, and then her Ghoul(s) effortlessly figure out multiple Disciplines while Himeno still struggles with basic bitch Potency and Celerity.

>>146106 No the last updated text doc was lost so I have to remake it but all methods of replication are completely fucked meaning I have to spend extra time and effort to make sure it comes out clean. I went up to Drop In perks last time I was working on it.

>>146041 I think there was one in OWoD Mortals.

>>146117 Oh, that sucks.

>>146116 Also keep in mind that unlike with Wasps, Ghouls have contradictory predatory/exploitive urges that conflict with what should be their love/loyalty. Ghouls can very much take advantage of mentally weak Domitors.

>>146097 Same on my end. It's been loading everything slow as SHIT since like 1-2 am.

>>146119 Sucks ass, yeah. I will be adding a new general perk which I think was a job skill thing but it's not huge. It was an anon request which is how I discovered the state of things in the first place.

>>146097 >>146121 Try .se instead of .moe.

Geneforge is fun, especially with all the bullshit shaping powers in the jump.

>>146124 Its a fun series

>>146123 I pretty much always use Se.

>>146124 Fuck tactics - swarm of fire and ice raptors.

Guys do you have any ideas or suggestions for spells one should apply to a building? Other than various wards and reinforcements and a perception filter that is. Im kind of realizing that having a ton of space to work as a canvas is a cool idea but I never fleshed out what exactly I did with all that canvas other than maybe enchanting it so that my tower is also a massive interconnected data node that sucks up ambient power and constantly repairs itself. I suppose I could funnel magic into the greenhouses and the mana node to produce more tass batteries?

>>146127 Acid spitter swarm works pretty well too.

>>146127 Just fire and ice raptors? I have complete biological understanding from the perk, so I can do better than that. LIGHTNING RAPTORS

>>146124 I love how much of an absolute clusterfuck the entire setting is. The Shapers and the Council are absolute Machiavellian supervillains exclusively focused on ensuring that the Shaping Arts are monopolized only by those completely under their thumb. As the series goes on, you start to realize why this was and by the end of the game during the Shaping Wars you realize that the Council was absolutely right about everything and that rebelling against them was the fucking worst thing to ever happen. The entire setting is ruled by a bunch of Machiavellian assholes and that's for the best because open access to the world-ending potential of Shaping by those who aren't paranoid schizophrenics obsessed with ensuring it doesn't break containment would be (and later is) cataclysmic on a global scale.

>>146129 Might try some stuff with those later. >>146130 Have fun with your thunder lizards.

>>146114 >>146113 I just don't usually like interfering in jumps especially when I don't know what's happening >>146111 What? I thought what happened to her was an coincidence, why would a queen want competition?

>>146131 EVERY RULE WRITTEN IN BLOOD EVERY LETTER FROM A MILLION CORPSES

>>146132 >>146127 Dragon swarm clears.

Could someone pls link me the qq drive

>>146136 No. Go to spacebattles or qq.

>>146133 The tomboy bully who she thought was her first Soldier is a Queen manipulating her to try and use her as bait to lure out the American Queen so she can kill her in revenge for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>>146136 ...Just go to QQ mate. SB also allows to link QQ drive, if thou must. I think. They have been getting worse about stuff like this.

>>146133 >I just don't usually like interfering in jumps especially when I don't know what's happening I don't understand this cuck attitude, nobody ever accomplished anything worth doing by being timid and fencesitting.

>>146136 ...And reddit has all major drive links in one of their FAQ threads, I think.

>>146138 But then the double twist of Himeno's unique stinger ability allowing her to enslave other Queens means that she was always loyal to Himeno from the very beginning and her whole plan fell apart before it even began.

>>146142 But then the triple twist of it was all a plot by aliens who've been monitoring the planet for thousands of years.

>>146136 9anon should put the QQ drive link in the pinned post, since a lot of his jumps are QQ jumps anyway.

The farmer who beats his wife has already left the tao, he's following human-made rules about dominance. The soldier who never retreats has been poisoned by the artificial concept of honor.

>>146007 As the other anon said, the vast majority are Pure so bad things happen in short order. If you mean the /actual/ Uratha though, then they are swiftly baffled at 1) the Spirits here NOT being utterly insane monsters as a rule and 2) they probably find out about the Garou whilst searching around and after a brief misunderstanding, are left with the realization that the only other werewolves here are basically a massive grouping of Pure cults.

>>146059 Neat!

>>146143 >>146142 >>146138 This is alot more complicated, than I thought. I'm going to create a virus bomb that kills wasps and those infected or at least take control of their hiveminds. Also lets say I use the upgrade ability from generic Isakie, do you think I can give the wasp companion another ability from another queen? >>146140 I'm not just going to pop into an area and shoot people anon.

>>146054 Morning, WoL.

>>146148 For some reason I haven't read Generic Isekai yet so I can't say unless you name the Perk. That said, YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY read the manga. It DEFINITELY won't be a PAINFUL WASTE OF TIME. >I'm not just going to pop into an area and shoot people anon. They deserve it.

>>146091 Do we get more Homeostasis lore? If not, then I'm not that interested.

>>146150 The new Generic Isekai is pretty good. I went there Jump 1 and had a terrible time as a candle.

>>146150 >For some reason I haven't read Generic Isekai yet so I can't say unless you name the Perk. That said, YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY read the manga. It DEFINITELY won't be a PAINFUL WASTE OF TIME. >2.​ ​Upgrade​ ​(Monster)​: When focusing on a target, you can determine its attributes, abilities, and general status. By spending some of your own mana, you can enhance any of these things. The price grows for targets of a higher level than you, and you can specify specific things to upgrade, ranging from specific attributes all the way to species. This skill can improve anything and everything, but can't be used to learn things. This ability can target almost anything, from equipment to party members, as well as yourself. The perk allows you to infuse mana into anything to upgrade it, people, items, powers etc, and no I won't. I've been had before >They deserve it. I'll take your word for it

>>146151 There will be some kind of story content, seemingly involving Parallelmon but we don't know more than that at this time. How are your jumps coming along, friend?

I'm back and forth on it. Am I waifuing Arceus? I think I am.

>>146152 I don't doubt it, I just mostly reserve reading Jumps for a certain relaxed mood but have been busy for a while. >>146153 If you fanwank that you're only broadening their capabilities instead of giving them new abilities, then sure, but I don't personally think that tracks. I'd instead think it would be possibly to use that to make outcroppings of the original ability in question, or of the stinging in general, like being able to cross-species barriers for instance.

>>146155 Fuck the creator god.