Took longer than expected.

How should a gauntlet be structured ideally?

Under the presumption that a repaired and redeveloped Inazuma has an area of 2593 square miles, has a population of 537,267 people, and is deposited roughly in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in the year 1000 AD, should I expect Christian Europe to pull A Northern Crusade on them, or would they just be an absent curiosity for Europe?

I like way too much Asian fantasy mage stories. Things like Warlock of the Magus World, Age of Adepts, Diary of Dead Wizard or Wizard: Start with Biological Transformation. I might do Generic jump based on that stories but it will take lot of time and I need to read Dairy and Wizard till the end of at least till released chapters. >>159927 No info when it would be released. same with 3rd season of anime.

>>159955 In whatever why best fits the challenge and setting. Gauntlets are idiosyncratic by nature, and don't fit as well into standardized formats.

>>159958 Ah, fair. Thought to idly question but that's reasonable.

>>159959 Questions are good. I was just giving you my take on the matter.

>>159957 Did you read Book Eating Magician? I heard it's kinda good. Also what would you even name the genre?

>>159956 No. The naval technology of the era makes it a more arduous undertaking than it'd be worth, especially if the Inazumans don't periodically raid them.

>>159960 I don't have much of a Jumpmaking bug anymore, but a series I quite enjoyed just wrapped up recently and I was idly thinking about it. The setting feels like it doesn't work very well as a normal Jump, but it would work really well as a Gauntlet I think because of all the narrative fuckery and rules involved.

>>159955 Depends on how similar to a normal jump you want things to feel. But aside from it being a kindness to put drawbacks first since the player will need to know how they're getting their points to make choices there's really no set method. Some will give you the other choices in the normal jump order, some will break things up into different phases so you get some drawbacks followed by some options, then another section in the same order as to imply that you can't spend points from section 2's drawbacks (or other parts later you eventually choose from) on section 1's perks (or other parts earlier than the one you're currently choosing from) - and that style seems to be the way that Light of Terra is handled from a broader perspective since it broke the sections into individual jumpdocs. You can also leave everything in a normal jump order if the jumpdoc has a way to switch between taking it in a normal jump mode or specialized gauntlet mode. Just do what you feel works for the way you want it to play out, or don't if that seems too complicated.

>>159963 I always enjoy your work, so I for one would like to see it made.

>>159961 >Book Eating Magician That one was good. I read it alongside Valhalla Saga and Breakers. >>159957 >No info when it would be released. same with 3rd season of anime. That ain't good.

>>159955 To me ideally they should be structured identical to jumps since I hate gauntlets

>>159964 Many different approaches being acceptable is good news. If I made the thing I can't imagine structuring it as a normal Jump, so it would likely end up segmented; broken up section by section. The series was called "Surviving in an Action Manhwa." A random guy was summoned into a manga he loved yet criticized due to his favorite character's death, only to end up summoned into the world by the author and told to make a better ending if he thought he was so great. It's not that simple though, as he was quite literally summoned into the story through its original schedule, with heavy restrictions on how he could interfere with planned out plot sections, and he needed to justify his presence in the story by appealing to the audience all while contending with the author trying to make things interesting while fucking him over constantly. Perspective shifts, time skipping as one chapter ended and another began, etc. Fucked up situation for the guy. The story had a point shop trope where he could basically spend his popularity to obtain abilities or features that would help his character and stuff, so I'd likely try to take cues from that if anything. >>159965 I'm likely going to think on it quite a bit, but given my lack if results with a few other attempts it's probably best not to expect anything.

I woke up and had an absolutely terrible idea this morning. So terrible I have to share it with someone. Steven Universe, but during Rose's Rebellion she revived some human/caveman who helped lead the human parts of the rebellion, and due to Rose's power is now an immortal who goes around fighting gem monsters. And this immortal pink-haired caveman is essentially Big D from Hunter the Parenting. He eventually decides to visit Beach city with him family to visit Rose like he does every century or so, and they get embroiled in the plot of the show Man, I wish I could write. Or know fanfic writers to badger into making this terrible idea real.

>>159961 >Did you read Book Eating Magician? Nope. Looks like I will have a lot of to read to even start working on this jump. >what would you even name the genre So far it is generic asian wizard. Opened google doc file, named it and went back to reading. That are all of my steps so far.

This banner new?

>>159971 ...And yes, this is in fact a banner I got

https://8chan.moe/jumpchain/res/157915.html#q159861 Toying with the idea of "solving" a Sono Karada jump 1 going through FGO and wondering why it isn't uploaded to the drive. Skimming through the various mostly disconnected inspirations for the jump shows their attempts hinge on ignoring how things don't work that way. Thankfully Idolmaster, Kancolle, and Blue Archive don't have any effect on the world spanning plot of FGO until after part 2 or so. So far the main hangup is having to go early and solve FGO's plot myself since I can't count on Dantes, Abby, etc. to just suddenly not care at all if done midway through. Jump 1 Sono Karada >Drawbacks A Taste For Cosplay Greyscale World Change Is The Spice of Life Multiversal Mix-Up >Perks Nothing To See Here Citizen Those Aren't My Nerves You're Getting On Hello Yes I Am Real Master Secret Keeper Manifestation Of Desire Hold On Bro, She's Resisting I Died And All I Got Was This Shirt A Slimey Fate This Is More Than Mere Cosplay (Ashiya Douman) I Died allows for effectively becoming whoever you possess by soul absorption and A Slimey Fate covers for anything else left out. Meaning that the snowball effect will leave jumper rather powerful the further in they go. Going with Ashiya Douman as a demiservant choice was due to it being the best possible option for this dubious endeavor. Not only being an alterego composed of numerous divine spirits but his entire existence uses a spell for absorbing and growing past the usual limits of a human soul by becoming a living spell more or less. While the curses and magical abilities are a nice cherry on top the main thing is the shikigami clone trick which not only adds for survivability but allows for making up the numbers from absorbing servants as we go along. It even lets me somewhat sidestep the big issue of magical energy supply until other means can be reached. Nothing To See Here, Real Master, and Secret Keeper are for keeping up the charade in the early stages and keeping things as on the rails as possible. Manifestation of Desire is in part to keep up the act but also get the memories to go along with using all of those abilities I'll be gaining. Hold On Bro is just in case when dealing with the more powerful souls and divine spirits. Regardless I start out in Singularity F as either a master or spirit and completely absorb Ritsuka. Gaining their plot armor level luck and command spells lets me burn through the latter empowering myself to fully absorb the spirit of Douman to ensure there are no hidden dangers later. From here I'm stumped as how to proceed since while it is somewhat of a loss to not go for acquiring living Gilgamesh in Babylonia its ultimately better to keep to the rails of part 1 to eliminate two Beasts. Absorbing a demon pillar can be done in Epic of Remnant so I'm not in a rush there. Cosmos In The Lostbelt allows for more opportunities to gain powerful living bodies of lostbelt kings and similarly powerful beings but getting to that point is the problem. I'm not sure if I'll checkmate myself in Ordeal Stall or not this way, but after a point I'll have to play it by ear. Part of me wonders if I should even bother with Ordeal Stall if I can absorb coma!Olga and skip right to absorbing ORT after regenerating her heart? Given her 100% self is allegedly capable of such. Going that route leaves me out of servants but I can just drain the Throne of Heroes and leave by that point.

>>159969 I'd read it. And I don't even like SU. >>159971 Yep, it got added during the last thread. Fitting, huh?

>>159974 Yeah, it is a nice one. On par with paper one, altho paper is not instantly understandable in the same way.

>>159971 Yes, I remembered an old screencap and knew I had to make a Jumpchain version.

>>159967 If it was a normal Jump it wouldn't be that terribly different in all likelihood. The story revolves around the (in-story) author constantly hassling and railroading the protagonist, being generally pretty involved even if he only explicitly forces things every now and then. The literal narrative forces of the world can quite seriously just fuck your whole life if they don't like you. The protagonist generally needs to avoid table flipping the plot too much to maintain tolerable levels of favorability with the author for that reason.

>>159956 Better image definition. >>159962 Makes sense, thanks anon. Would I be correct in assuming merchants would still make the journey when they realize the Inazumans have silk, spices and unusually high-quality steel among other trade goods, or is it that not practical for them?

>>159978 Yes, probably. Finding a sea route to Asia was one of the main goals of the voyages during the Age of Discovery. The only question really is "when".

>>159973 Wheres the Sono Karada jump? I don't see it anywhere. Is it the drive shitting itself again?

>>159980 So far it has only been posted in the horny thread.

>>159978 >silk and spices. Brother, multiple european countries became powerful naval forces and empires just for spices. Merchants will go through literal Hell for spices.

>>159981 I see, Thanks for answering.

Are you guys feeling good? I'm feeling good

>>159647 we yearn for our youth >>159861 >current fascination Porn game. >why haven't you posted a build for the jump It doesn't have one >why don't you ma- It's not complete.

>>159973 Yay build! And yeah, the possession stuff really shouldn’t work in the crossover settings because there’s vastly different metaphysics and whatnot. Missed opportunity to make a perk that says your possession is jacked up the wazoo and you can possess anything I guess.

>>159984 Besides my balls unironically feeling really heavy right now, yeah i'm good.

>>159984 I feel fantastic, and I never felt as good as how I do right now. Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day when I felt the way that I do right now, right now.

>>159984 Woke up a bit ago, fulfilling my mortal needs, no tasks pending. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good.

>>159984 For some reason only at select times in the day my muse returns to let me make some jumps. I have two hours before i go to sleep.

>>159956 the fuck is inazuma? >>159984 I wouldn't say good, but I'm not bad.

>>159986 Some of it does and other parts of it do not. For the purposes of the jump I'm just fanwanking that with the 3 capstone perks in tandem my jumper more or less is working with an application of the third magic or something bordering it. Douman being a living spell meant for this is part of the attempt to make it work closer to setting logic. Hence why I'm just chugging on ahead with body and soul alteration through templates and such. Don't worry about the missed opportunity, its just something to work towards over the chain. Otherwise included in a later update I guess. Thanks for the jump.

>>159991 Genshin's Japan expy.

>>159992 Is this the misunderstanding girl?

>>159992 Who is this whore?

Does anyone here play CK3?

>>159984 That stabbing pain in my head days ago turned out to be a very bad case of tension headache, at least I got 2 days off

>>159995 Image Title

>>159742 This is honestly why in my chain, I've just started stacking as many luck perks as possible. Especially when Xianxia rolls around. Every. Single. Luck perk. That way it can be justified to an extent when something happens.

>>159992 what's the deal with fate and the cuckfoxes? Other gachas like AL or BA have foxes being cute super loyal wives. why are fgo writers like this?

Realistically big/huge or exaggeratedly big/huge?

>>160001 >Realistically big/huge This.

>>160001 Exaggeratedly big/huge tits.

>>159980 >>159981 Didn't have upload perms, it's up in the drive now

>>159979 >>159982 Got it. And where merchants go, missionaries follow. Though, presumably commercial gains trump the desire to save souls for most, so once it’s clear that missionary activity threatens access to the market, you’ll probably only have the Church itself trying for that?

I'm wanting to start a new chain and hit up Fallout pretty early, probably jump for the first Fallout jump and then just go through them in chronological order. Could you guys drop some, non-magic, jump suggestions that don't completely invalidate the Fallout setting. I've got Oblivion (the movie) as one, for the drop in items primarily, and potentially CATastrophe as a second, the stable super soldier serum and the gun that functions like the Fallout pulse gun. Although I'd appreciate any jumps with some really low powered shield technologies or basic manufacturing stuff, so Factorio is a maybe.

>>159861 Ordem Paranormal/Esoterrorists. >and why haven't you posted a build for the jump? Because I have only finished Enigma of Fear. The Ordem and Esoterrorists jumps are on the backburner and work on Ocean Game is stalled until power comes back to my house.

>>159999 Orikan in power-up mode is when he's forseen Trazyn stealing his shit. The possom forum however is how Trazyn views him as he's pretending to be a Lynchguard and has already stolen half the treasury

>>160006 Abiotic Factor would be a pretty good choice since its Archotechnic Consultant (my favorite) would let you easily build and improve the Fallout tech base.

>>159994 Yep. >>159995 Suzuka Gozen. A girl who is not for (You) whose creator bends over backwards to ensure you are always reminded of this fact during or after ship teasing in story. Pretended to be a retard so hard she went full retard. Has some neat abilities for absorbing like supercomputer brain and return to divinity sword. >>160000 My personal theory is that its the writer's waifu and he goes out of his way to ruin the story to remind you of the fact. For Tamamo the writers unironically hate her and spend all of the Extraverse dunking on her for it. Unironically you have to correct and leash them because they can't be allowed to make their own decisions. >>160004 Cute elf. Is she from a series or oc?

>>160008 This makes me curious on what level of power you need to not fear Trazyn collecting you as a stasis piece of art for eternity.

>>159973 Also, yay build! >>160010 She's from Hiiragi Popuri's series of doujinshi that have a similar possession theme. Theirs has a more fantasy theme though

>>159969 Absolutely cursed idea, but I'd read it. >>159984 The mosquitos are starting ot become pests yet again, and I've bit the inside of my cheek a number of times lately, but I'm pretty fine for now. Just found out Dead Static Drivs is releasing today and Darkwood 2 got announced, so I've been kind of giddy lately.

>>160011 He's stolen a Custode, has a perfect Primarch copy, a solid chunk of a hive fleet, a supposed Krork, and gets his jollies off fucking with Chaos Marines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr7bf6tIzWs You should remember that he never slept during those 60 million odd years all the other Necrons did. Which means during the absolute height of the Eldar empire he was sneaking about stealing shit with only a tiny retinue of his own personal army. edit: wrong link

>>160000 >160k Soon 200k then 500k and 1m posts full of autism. >cuck Fox No idea fox girls would be perfect waifus. Just take a look at Senko.

>>160010 I like the foxwife. But even I acknowledge that she must be tamed to become a good wife.

Abara is the ancient past of the Knights of Sidonia setting correct or it's implied to be such the same as Biomega is for Blame! righ?

>>160012 >Yay build Can you post it again? The jump, that is.

>>160019 Sure, here you go

>>160015 Having a Custodes mean no one is safe from this guy. I can imagine a Jumper trying to survive with his perfect build only to be scared shitless when he's randomly teleported to Trazyn's mausoleum.

>>160020 is anything stopping me from like, possessing a coma patient and then just living his life normally?

>>159994 >>159995 So, despite people calling Tamamo the cuck fox because she sleeps with Rin during extra, this is the ACTUAL cuck fox. Iirc her designer/writer is obsessed with her and as such pretty much every relationship she has with a/the player ends up with her cheating on you, dumping you, or otherwise refusing to acknowledge you in some way because the writer thinks she belongs to him and fuck you for trying to waifu her, get ntr’d already.

>>160022 Not to my knowledge?

>>160022 Probably not, if that’s your ideal fantasy then go ahead.

>>160023 Ah, so she is indeed for the streets.

>>160023 Hey, there can be TWO cuck fox!

>>160024 >>160025 Time to go full Fallen Hero then.

>>160026 She is for (him). Which does, in universe, mean that she goes to find a random black man to fuck just to screw with you on account of how dare you try to waifu his waifu. Ignore the fact that he’s writing her sleeping with men who aren’t him to spite you, clearly he’s into that.

>>160016 >No idea fox girls would be perfect waifus. Just take a look at Senko. Indeed Some youkai are just prime wife material, not sure why the fgo enjoy being such cucks. >>160010 >My personal theory is that its the writer's waifu and he goes out of his way to ruin the story to remind you of the fact. For Tamamo the writers unironically hate her So one has a writer that loves her too much so he ruins her on purpose and the other just gets ruined because they don't like her... In either case the writers are stupid unhinged cucks. >>160023 I bet she would also cheat on the writer.

>>160024 >First pic She looks like a CPU.

>>160018 No. From what we know of KoS through some of the middle chapters, the gauna there attacked the planet early on, prompting the humanity of KoS to flee on generation ships. Abara is in it's own little bubble as is Blame. Blame is where the overlap potentially occurs because cross dimensional travel is theorized there but the exact results are unproven. Ignore the jump scenarios because those are based entirely on hypotheticals and might as well be it's own premise altogether.

>>160029 Fenoxo tier guy. I don't think those idiots know what they are doing, but it's on par the course.

>>160018 They aren't connected at all, outside of potential multiverse shenanigans per Blame!. Nihei just really, really loves using the same names and concepts over and over.

>>160020 Why are they farting from their ears? joke question

Is there any 40k jump where you can access the dark age of technology era?

>>160034 >Nihei just really, really loves using the same names and concepts over and over Thinking on that I guess it's about time to make the annual Nihei jump.

>>160036 why not just use time travel

>>160020 >I Died And All I Got Was This Shirt So if I give this perk to a waifu she can just possess and assimilate other girls into herself to be a one woman harem by splitting off pieces of her soul? Would this have a hive mind effect?

>>160037 Finally, the Tower Dungeon jump will happen.

>>160036 Necron jump via starting during the war in heaven and then waiting for a long while.

>just learned there's a squirrel girl in FEH's later books damnit BLADE just skip book 5 or whatever and get to work

>>160038 Only the necrons have access to that type of tech, and i'm trying to focus on 40k jumps only.

>>160040 Tower Dungeon isn't complete. I was going to read Aposimz instead, but I'm also considering just watching Kaina.

>>160042 Design's amazingly shit.

>>160039 Not specifically hivemind. They aren't still connected. But they seems to at least vaguely be aware of each other and are all effectively piloted by the same person.

>>160045 I kind of like the etherea/glowyl take on them.

>>160042 If you actually play feh we can chat about it to try and hype me up?

>>160047 Humanoid. The kyuubi squirrel is fineish. >>160048 Odin on his throne? Not that I played it.

>>160046 Hmm, would fully assimilating someone let you take it into future jumps as it's now part of you/the companion who assimilated them?

>>160048 As much as I'd love to, I quit for a reason. There's a drunken lamia girl?

>>160028 Whats this?

Alright you PAthfinder fans. Not saying I'll do it, but I'm curious so will poll ya'll. Give me which Pathfinder 1e APs you would most want to see a jump for.

>>160053 The first one. So I don't have to worry about using the normal pathfinder jump for it and can just fuck around in Xin's Empire.

>>160050 I'll probably leave that as a fanwank question.

>>160053 All of it.

>>160052 Fallen Hero. You play a former sidekick to one of the 'Rangers' (a superhero team) in a world where supers exist. You are actually an incredibly powerful psychic but you kept your true power hidden, pretending to have a different power. After a mission against a rival psychic who outputs a suicide aura goes REALLY bad, you drop off the face of the world and most everyone thinks you are dead. Game picks up as you are preparing for your villainous debut, having decided to fuck the world for whatever reason (you can choose why you are doing it but can't really choose to stop). Unfortunately the old hero you used to work with finds you again, and starts trying to drag you back leading to conflicting loyalty. Part of the story (and the part relevant to what I am talking about) is you using your psychic powers to essentially wear a coma patient like a second body to do some of the dirty work for you, but the friendships and relationships you develop in that body also give you conflicting loyalties.

bird I was working and couldn't say this before

>>160051 >As much as I'd love to, I quit for a reason. Heh.

>>160058 Well, fuck. That was meant to be bird.

>>160058 >>160060 Bird?

>>160060 Why is it auto correcting to bird? bird.

>>160061 Is the word?

>>160062 9anon changed shit?

>>160063 Blue bird from Deltarune. Can't tell if phone or 9anon.

>>160053 Either Strange Aeons for that Lovecraft goodness, or Return of the Runelords for full MAGIC.

>>160000 >what's the deal with fate and the cuckfoxes? The deal is that neither of them are foxes. Tamamo is closer to a jackal that gets fox features from Amaterasu, and Suzuka is an oni cosplaying to piss off Tamamo. The only actual fox in there is the bullied failgirl neet.

I do not say this lightly, but based.

>>160068 >from Amaterasu >Suzuka is an oni cosplaying If your brain has bugged when reading this, or you are thinking "This is stupid", I have only one thing to say: Welcome to the trainwreck that is Fate.

>>160054 >>160066 I'mma keep it a buck with you I weas actually thinking of rolling up all the Varisian APs (or at least the first several) into one large jump, considering RotRL, CotCT, and SD all happen within two years of eachother, Jade Regent is 3 years later, Shattered Star is a year after that, and Return is six years after that.

9anon is based for doing that ignore my last post, didn't realize how political the image was. Now it's just lewd.

>>160068 Osakabehime, my NEET wife.

>>160068 Given how her shapeshifting works, Tamamo taking the form of a fox means that she’s slowly infecting herself with the nature of a fox. So give it time.

>>160066 Isn't Return of the Runelords 2e?

>>160074 And that was one hugefucking brainrot.

>>160053 >Returns of the Runelords >"It's just for +2 all stats, honest" It is a funny module. Anyway, Strange Aeons has a pretty disappointing reddit version, I'd love an actually jumpable version.

>>160055 Fair, one (hopefully) last autistic question, if someone were to take both the slime and ghost capstones would it be reasonable to say they are one with the abilities of both?

>>160076 Its 1e, the second to last AP for the edition right behind Tyrant's grasp

>>160077 Gomenasorry.

>>160078 >Anyway, Strange Aeons has a pretty disappointing reddit version, I Speaking of, I heard one of the other communities had a Kingmaker Jump. Was it any good?

Okay anons, besides Pokemon, MTG and Yu-Gi-Oh, what other jumps do we have for card games? I am feeling an itch to try and master them all

>>160071 >spoiler Yes please!

>>160082 SB. It is... Honestly I don't remember it particularly well. I think it wasn't terrible. Give a moment I'll post it.

>>160083 IIRC we have a Chaotic jump? Or someone was thinking of making one.

>>160081 Never post ever again.

>>160053 Strange Aeons.

>>160088 Looks mostly okay on a skim.

Wow, A lot of people liked Strange Aeons

>>160087 That is murimpossible.

>>160053 Return of the Runelords. The weirdass time travel plot is neat, and I like how if you make one you're going to have to add in a perk that makes you be a hot asian woman

>>160053 Runelords (Any)

>>160093 >nd I like how if you make one you're going to have to add in a perk that makes you be a hot asian woman That would be a drawback. Heck, I'll make it a drawback to make to a body-double for a Runelord of choice.

>>160020 If you take the Ghost and Demiservant option, can you fanwank that when you absorb people you can allow them to influence your personality and mental processes where beneficial, and can split their consciousnesses back off as soul fragments to possess other bodies when desired?

>>160092 9anon, Janington, ban this man please. Kidding in case that wasn't obvious. hahahaha UNLESS?

>>160095 Why would Accidental Clone be a drawback? That +20 to a mental saving throw can be really fucking useful

Any place I could get Shapeshifting clothing that would also allow you to store stuff inside it like equipment? I want my jumper to still retain benefits from different enchanted items when disguised as someone else. Best idea I had was taking that inventory option in Generic Isekai that also lets you store items in body slots and pick up transforming clothes as part of the equipment.

>>160086 It is over on Wanderer's drive. And didn't make it on TG for some reason but Reddit has a copy of it. He got all the way through except one perk line and hit with depression. And a reddit or grabbed it and finished the last pit and tossed it in their drive.

>>160068 >The deal is that neither of them are foxes. >Tamashit is a jackal >Suzukek is an oni >Only fox is the neet Well, that explains a lot actually. How's the neet? Is she any good?

>>160083 Inscryption, Megaman Battle Network/Star Force (technically), and a few more if you want to ignore the main plot and play in-setting card games like The Witcher, KoTOR, FF7 Remake, and FF9. If you take the crossover toggle, you could probably get away with having SNK vs Capcom Card Fighters happen during the Street Fighter jump. SB also has one for Hearthstone. >>160086 We have one, and it was reposted somewhere in the last thread or three. >>159861 >What is your current autistic fascination Refining character designs in the slop mines for a squad and arbitrarily expanding the project scope functionally at random because new ideas (read: distractions). >why haven't you posted a build for the jump? I want the build and story for that jump to line up better, but am having difficulty reconciling how to cut 400 in perks from the total and feel like using UDS or something to make up the difference would be caving. On that note, I haven't actually made many if any new builds since then and maybe might wanna fix that...

>>160101 >Wanderer's drive Got a link? I'd like to add it to the drive list.

>>160057 Oh cool its from choice of games

>>160079 Seems fine to me >>160096 Sounds fine?

>>160100 It's a bit roundabout, but you could always have the shapeshifting property added to a set of layered armor from one of the Monster Hunter jumps and have your actual equipment beneath that doing the storage on top of the stat mods. Similarly, the system you get in Solo Leveling lets you disable your armor's visibility while still conferring the stat/durability buffs as normal, and can be used to store your weapons for equipping/redeployment as you please.

>>160100 Honestly, at that point you'd probably want to pick up a way to equip items without having to wear them, like the Charm Pouch from Secret of Evermore, Wireless Interface from Storm Hawks, the Legendary Treasure Pedestal from Skylanders SWAP Force, or Skill Transference from Lost Odyssey

>>160106 Thanks! …mostly just feel guilty about the idea of completely annihilating someone like that, so the idea of being able to preserve them for future incarnation is appreciated.

>>160088 >Alignment Backgrounds A weird choice, but interesting nonetheless >Attributes Peak human in one attribute for 50 seems cheap. I would've placed it at 100, with the option to replace your 100cp perk discount with one purchase >Paper-bound fate This is weird that this is a perk. Anyone else think so? IT just feels kinda...metagamy? Something about it sits ill with me

Are the mountain ranges in WoW around zones canonical or are they just there for gameplay purposes?

>>160099 Seeyanara, my sweet prince

>>160071 Why does Pathfinder have adventurer corgis. What's the deal there.

>>160091 The power of tentacles!

Rolling to see which Fujimaru Ritsuka(s) exist for absorbing. Which jump should be next? Tentacles & Witches, Lewd Magic Isekai, or Mind Control Isekai? 1. Male 2. Female 3. Both

>>160115 IRL Corgi Lore is that they're fairy steeds. Why wouldn't Pathfinder Fairies also have adorable corgi steeds?

>>160117 w r o n g

>>160115 They're used as mounts by small fey https://www.aonprd.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Faerie%20Mount >>160118 exactly!

>>160117 FOOL!!!

>>160114 Only one of your posts disappeared.

>>160117 Buffoon!

>>160120 >>160118 The fun part is that normal corgis exist in Pathfinder BECAUSE some farmers tried breeding them after being impressed by the capabilities of Faerie Mounts.

>>160117 2d6 = 12

>>160126 /rol{2d6} just add the second l

>>160006 Tom Clancy's The Division? Or Ghost Recon Breakpoint. Dunno if you want to use them but Reddit has its own Fallout folder with a bunch of fallout jumps, not just for the games but also for stuff like being a psyker, mutant or automaton and also iirc one for being in the resource wars during the leadup to the bombs dropping. I think reddit has a jump for The League of Extraordinary Gentleman which might also work. You may also want to consider our Rocketeer jump, or perhaps Demolition Man, Friday the 13th, Robocop, Predator, Alien vs Predator, Lucky & Wild, Firefly, Dredd, Red Orchestra, Ring of Red or Battletech. >>160036 Necron jump, you can start whenever you want between the start of the war in heaven and the 'modern day' of 40k. >>160043 necrons is literally a 40k jump though

Well, since people brought up Tamamo...anyone have a jump they'd like to suggest I go to as my second after Fate/Apocrypha as the first?

>>160110 It's for the game.

>>160130 Depends. What did you do in Apo?

>>160011 A powerful enough psyker can't be put in stasis. A Chaos Undivided Lord Space Marine but not Sorrcer is too weak to break out of a tesseract. Some Greater Demons can't break out of them either.

>>160117 Roll, anon. Roll! Redeem yourself!

>>160126 This might be helpful https://8chan.moe/.static/pages/posting.html

>>160131 Ah. That makes sense

>>160118 >>160120 That is very cute. >>160125 Even more cute.

>>160128 >>160134 >>160135 So not email field like 4chan just typing it in the post? 1d3 = 3

Good jumps to acquire large dog mounts?

>>160139 If you'll excuse the shameless plug, perhaps getting yourself a Palamute from Monster Hunter Rise?

>>160043 What the fuck did he mean by this?

>>160130 silent hill f, you can get another tamamo there.

>>160140 ... It's weird, but I remembered Palamutes as being a medium dog breed, not the large dogs they apparently are? Really gotta get around to actually playing that game. I bought it on sale years ago

>>160130 Come to think of it, fox possession is a pretty decent justification for bodyswap shenanigans.

>>160143 Remember they hatch from watermelon sized eggs

>>160026 Do you realize he's lying? Suzuka isn't for (you) explicitely, it's not cucking because you aren't in a relationship in the first place, it's like accusing Xu Fu of cheating on you.

>>160143 To be fair, everything looks medium sized compared to the Monsters

>>160147 No, like, I thought it was an earth medium sized dog. Like, I had a distinct memory of a full human riding on a dog that was barely up to his knees, like a dude riding a minibike

>>160023 > she sleeps with Rin during extra Or Rani.

>>160139 Pokemon

>>160099 I-I was kidding. UNLESSSSSSSS

>>160053 Mummy's Mask with also interest in Rise of the Runelords or Skull & Shackles.

Blessings of the moon upon ye

>>160150 Where did that protagonist get such a big boi?

>>160154 Evolution

Nope, big boys Pic related, next to my big fluffy dog

>>160156 Did you name your Palico after a boat?

>>160153 An upon you as well Psycho.

Should I Introduce a leveling system that only people who are not allied to chaos, not an ork, and not a nid, can use in 40k, yes or no? I could change the layout so that its full of golden eagles, skulls, and prayers to the God Emperor so it looks like his blessing and toss on tons of purity seals embossed in gold. It could also have an upgrade system for ships or properties And I shall only tithe out a tiny bit of each exp gain amd probably should engage it from terra and let it spread out from there.

>>160153 Smol moons and no spells!

>>160157 Yes. I felt it fitting

>>160153 Thank you. I need them on night shift.

>>160153 Wait can this doll even moon anyone?

>>160153 Stop stabbing your only non-shit sibling, Moon Harlot!

>>160132 Okay, so...I was initially planning to highjack Amakusa's plan at the last minute to make it materialize everyones souls without mind-raping them, but some complicating factors arose. Namely, that all relied on no one else knowing I was there, which with Tamamo's ability to conceal herself from mystic detection was pretty easy. But I was kinda just...a block away when Reika and Jack were butchering some mages to feed Jack. Mages are, of course, typically acceptable targets, at least in the context of a Grail War. But...well, magical fox ears give you good enough hearing to guess at the age of some of the people screaming, and while it turned out the child wasn't going to be harmed, it's kinda hard to distinguish between a child screaming because he's having his chest slowly torn open, and a child screaming because he's watching his parents be butchered for parts. So I intervened, and managed to kill Jack by using my mastery of curses to tank her NP and then land a solid Fiery Heaven followed by Void Cleft on her. Reika was injured in the fighting, but didn't die, so I just knocked her out and left her for the authorities to deal with, even if that was pretty much the same as killing her. Couldn't save the kid's dad, but I was quick enough to save his mother. I didn't bother erasing their memories, since hypnosis strong enough to do that to them in the time I had would risk damage that defeats the purpose of saving them in the first place. All of which served to end up with me being shanghai'd by Jeanne into helping her against Amakusa and co a day or two later, because a third (incarnated) caster in a two-team war interfering to kill an Assassin isn't something you can really cover up without a lot more prep. Which meant I had to stop the ritual I'd intended to highjack for my own purposes. Like, I could've betrayed them, but...wouldn't have felt right after Jeanne saved my ass a few times in the subsequent battles. Once the war was over I mostly just played tourist and played around with modern magecraft for the fun of it. >>160142 Noted and thanks. >>160144 It's a funny sort too, since unless you want to kick out the native soul (i.e. what the fox named Daji did to the human named Daji) they aren't actually removed by default. >>160149 The yuri (or het with GARcher) will commence regardless of externalities. >>160153 The Moon is beautiful tonight. Unironically.

>>160053 Return of the Runelords.

>>160163 It does frost build-up.

>>160159 You do know that's just gonna incentivize chaos to play the long con by throwing people into the meat grinder before attempting to get people to join for a stronger new recruit right?

>>160159 Sounds good. You're still allowing craftworld eldar and the tau to useit . And the necrons, maybe removing the necrons. Can you make so people can see if someone is not on the system? That should help rooting out chaos worshippers and genestealers.

>>160167 But does she have the cheeks for it?

>>160165 Some sort of urban fantasy, then. Dresden Files if you got the tolerance. Saint Young Man. Machikado Mazoku.

>>160168 Thats the fun bit, I can set it so that if you join chaos you lose your gains. >>160169 I guess the necrons do already have it good. I may be able to work it so they are only able to do enhancements to their bodies as if they were enhancing a peice of equipment instead of outright leveling. And yeah I can swing that, a simple analyze other ability would probably be standard starter kit as far as skills go.

>>160170 Takes up 2 slots.

>>160172 >can set it so that if you join chaos you lose your gains. Oh hey that could also work as forfeiture so all their built up exp goes back into the system further empowering those who do not go to chaos.

>>160165 >The yuri (or het with GARcher) will commence regardless of externalities. Nero is saying that, of all people.

>>160111 Canon. Before Neltharion became Deathwing they were tall enough to near completely cut off travel between them, his corruption is what led to him lowering then so faces could contact each other and come into conflict.

>>160173 Are they upgradeable?

Well, I guess I better start reading through all the Varisian APs then for this jump. One question though: IS there any significant difference between the OG and Anniversery Rise of the Runelords? Or at least, any significant changes that would require the addition of a toggle for the two different versions? Also, somewhat off topic Do you think you can fix her?

>>160151 Nyanko is bak. And was definitely really banned and not just off to a diner to eat some lunch.

>>160178 Fix who? There are several NPCs in RotRL this could apply to.

>>160178 dang image didn't stick >>160180 I tried to post an image of Nualia. Sadly, 8chan is disagreeing with it immensly and won't let me

>>160177 Elden Ring upgrade system goes up to 15.

>>160178 No.

>>160182 Damn what are a set of tier 15 asscheeks like I wonder

>>160183 Wait, nevermind. If that's who you are speaking about, probably yes. Old hags are too set in their ways.

>>160179 Instruction unclear. Nyanko was eating dinner while banned.

>>160165 >It's a funny sort too, since unless you want to kick out the native soul (i.e. what the fox named Daji did to the human named Daji) they aren't actually removed by default. I suppose if you cross with FGO via that toggle, one can outright fanwank Amaterasu going for the second try, in a somewhat different way. As good of a justification for inexplicably being a demi-servant as any.

>>160182 I kind of miss when it was just +10

>>159956 Absent curiosity. I’m pretty sure in the year 1000 AD, Christian Europe’s idea of faraway travel is “I once travelled multiple hills to catch a sheep”. The only people who go that far are vikings, and not only do they follow a relatively specific path but they have quaint and alien habits like “personal grooming” and “bathing” that the rest of Europe is too IGNORANT AND SMELLY to have picked up on at the time. The point is, whatever Inazuma is might as well be be Africa in terms of how remote it is. (Meanwhile my own country has probably reinvented tricking paranoid rulers into voluntarily drinking mercury several times over unrecorded by history. God we’re such a clown species) >>160091 I am ALWAYS in favour of any opportunity to commit Outer God-adjacent genocide. I gave the Dominion of the Black the Sword Logic and mutilated Rovagug into a potentially Azathoth-perforating (the writers can’t seem to agree who’s stronger) superweapon for a specific reason.

>>160165 >Which meant I had to stop the ritual I'd intended to highjack for my own purposes. Like, I could've betrayed them, but...wouldn't have felt right after Jeanne saved my ass a few times in the subsequent battles. That awkward moment when you were going to become a villain, but wind up in the hero’s camp.

>>160181 It might be the filetype. Some of the rarer kinds don't show up here.

>>160188 I too miss Demon Souls

>>160071 I really think Jade Regent shouldn't count. It's a weeaboo themed AP that's about a journey across the world and only starts in Varisia. At least the others all (I guess minus Crimson Throne) tie in with the Runelords' empire.

>>160193 I don't miss the dozens of stones though. Did you know that very early in development, Bloodborne was apparently supposed to be sequel to Demon's Souls?

>>160195 >Bloodborne was apparently supposed to be sequel to Demon's Souls That would have been neat.

>>160181 >Spoiler Yes, its a thing. Part of the 2e Seven Dooms of Sandpoint AP is about making the town forgive her. If the PCs accumulate 10 Forgiveness Points, grant them 80 XP and 2 Reputation Points with the Sandpoint Cathedral. Abstalar Zantus announces plans to erect a statue in Nualia’s memory in the square outside of the cathedral, and as time goes on, memories of Nualia slowly turn from fear and anger to shame, regret, and ultimately forgiveness. Nualia’s spirit in the Boneyard hears this—but more to the point, Pharasma does, and when the aasimar is finally judged, she is sent on to Elysium to continue her atonement rather than being consigned to an afterlife of torment in the Abyss. The night after the PCs achieve this victory, they have dreams in which a tearful Nualia thanks them for what they have done—the details of the dreams vary, but Nualia’s thanks remain constant. Her gratitude grants the PCs a permanent +1 circumstance bonus to all saving throws against emotion effects—and may have other repercussions near the end of the adventure (see the Nualia’s Intervention sidebar on page 153)

>>160196 Ikr? And the implications would have been HEAVY.

>>160194 >I really think Jade Regent shouldn't count. It's a weeaboo themed AP that's about a journey across the world and only starts in Varisia. Still, Ameiko and Sandpoint were important parts of RotRL. At the very least I should allow Sandpoint as a starting location and maybe include some parts related to her story in the Jump. Heck, maybe include a "hidden princess" as a companion/perk option >>160197 Huh. I dunno why but that feels kinda...forced? Almost a tad whitewashed? I dunno why

>>160197 >>160199 People really liked that girl.

>>160199 You essentially have to browbeat the town into it. At the start they REALLY don't want to even deal with it besides the head priest guy.

>Revenge of the Rune Lords How many fucking Rune Lord related APs are there.

>>160104 It has been posted before, but I'll post it after work.

>>160202 >Rune Lord related APs Like, four?

>>160202 1e has Rise of the Runelords, Shattered Star, and Return of the Runelords. Dunno about 2e

>>160205 >Dunno about 2e Seven Dooms of Sandpoint, IIRC

Say that I make an Unbreakable Vow with some spirits, and enshrine that vow into a contract. Then, someone else destroys the physical medium of the contract. The Unbreakable Vow was made as something along the lines of "do you agree to the terms and conditions of this contract?", for speed and simplicity's sake. What would happen to the mystical side of the contract? Would the Unbreakable Vow just sorta snap/fail with the contract's destruction? Would it remain even without the actual written contract?

>>160207 It depends on if you make the vow encumbant on the existance of the physical.contract.

>>160207 Depends on the exact specifics and the terms written in the contract but going by myth logic having the medium it was written destroyed would render the whole thing void for everyone that had signed this pact.

>>160176 Huh, what a weird world.

>>160210 NTA and my Warcraft lore is rather dubious, but IIRC the place was literally made as an experiment by some ancient dudes? Having walls that isolate the populace makes sense if you're experimenting on them

did someone make a paprika jump?

>>160036 Do you want the era or just the technology?

>>160212 Dirge made one years and years ago

>>160214 link to his drive is in the same post where all the old thread links are

>>160215 His Paprika jump's been on our drive for years too

>>160216 So it. Back then on /tg/ somebody bitched a lot about his stuff for quite some time; I thought they might have managed to get it removed.

>>160217 Nothing gets removed from the drives. Ever. That's a hard and fast rule for Jumpchain.

>>160218 Stuff got deleted from uploads semi-regularly? Or did I hallucinate that memory?

>>160189 >In the year 1000 AD Christian Europe’s idea of faraway travel is “I once travelled multiple hills to catch a sheep”. Only the peasants working the fields. Merchants, Knights and Nobles did extensive travels at the time and only 90 years later did the first crusades start to be organised.

>>160218 Aren't we considering removing Generic's jumps?

>>160219 >>160221 Uploads isn't considered part of the drive proper. Once it's in the drive itself-not the upload folder-then it's basically immortalized.

>>160219 Dirge himself tried to remove his own jumps from the drive, prompting us to remove all permissions to edit the drives and create the special Uploads folder as the only publicly editable drive.

>>160223 I am perpetually amused by how huge chunks of jc drama just whoosh above my head. I don't remember that at all. >>160221 Not as far as I know, but see above.

>>160221 Why?

Can anyone suggest a jump with a drawback that lets you select what time you arrive in the plot? I'd like to retain the drawback so I can arrive at a time of my choosing in a later jump.

>>160221 No? Far as I understand the jumps are fine...

>>160221 Either way, while his later jumps are kinda shitty, they aren't really shitpost terrible. People don't like him because he tried to force his particular way of interjump balance and was really stubborn and obnoxious about it.

>>160221 No. The only thing considered is whether to allow his most recent stuff to be put on the drive.

>>160228 Like, telling people who had been doing things in a particular way for a decade+ gets people to tell you to fuck off. In progressively ruder way as one continues to insist. Who wouldva thunk.

>>159955 If made as a gauntlet first, you should have ways to get points before perks, because it's a pain in the ass to have to go toward the end of the document to figure out what you have to work with. Companion options are always going to be somewhat limited in gauntlets, especially in gauntlets where the struggle is the fact you are doing something by yourself. If you include them, make sure to clarify that companions don't keep their powers as well. You should also generally have options in the gauntlet to get a limited perk/item set, as it makes it feel more interactive in general. Depending on the setting, it's better to have tiered rewards for gauntlets as opposed to a singular one, as it provides more replayability factor to the gauntlet. Finally, you should always have an option to convert it to an ordinary jump if it feels reasonable, because some people don't like gauntlets by principle. >>160207 Depends on the definition of "contract" you are working with. The general case of the word specifies written or spoken, so it wouldn't break. If instead was described exactly as "the terms written on this contract" or something similar, I would say destroying the contract would technically end it, as nothing more is 'written' on it. >>160221 In general? No. Hell, if he stopped pulling shit with his jumps, we would be fine with them going on the drive. Its only because he keeps pulling shit with them that we keep them out of the drive, because as said >>160222 if it gets on, thats it. >>160224 It was a big deal, but time soothes these kind of wounds out, and it helped that Dirge was somewhat popular as a jumpmaker so after not pulling things for a bit we eventually let it go, though the stain of it remains in many people's hearts. >>160226 You could houserule it if you really want to force going back like that. Honestly, most ones that I know usually specify specific events, so they wouldn't help you anyway because said events don't exist in every jump.

>>160231 >You could houserule it if you really want to force going back like that Yeeeah, I guess... the jump even has a time adjustment drawback, it's just... not a very significant one, and I want to go back a long long time. But my Tism is kinda rankled by just arbitrarily deciding that no, I can pick the earlier era. So, I thought I'd put feelers out to see if anyone knew a "choose the era you jump into" drawback I could bootleg over.

>>160220 Yes, but knights and nobles at least make up such a drastic statistical minority that coupled with overland travel still being limited by non-Mongolian level horseback travel lengths still makes me think Inazuma (whatever it is) would have to go out of it’s way to attract adverse political attention. Hell if Inazume (whatever it is) has desirable exports and pays at least token homage to the local lord there’s an argument to be made those knights and merchants will be bringing back good propaganda about the not!Prester John and what is clearly a holy kingdom of God blessed by righteous prosperity (also they’re not N*rmans. Alternatively they’re not Anglo bumpkins) Also how do you edit or delete a post? My internet shorted out on the train and now there are two chessman and I wish to delete the one not attached to text. >>160211 Kinda-sorta, the Titans (sentient planet dudes) wanted to awaken Azeroth’s world soul because she was supposed to be the strongest Titan ever. To accomplish this they engineered cosmological constructs like the Emerald Dream or the framework of time (although subsequently there’s contradictory lore about how much they made and how much they simply altered from an existing force), created a giant beast to fight the then-vicious tree menace that shattered into the orc race, fundamentally altered dragons into guardians of those established precepts, and did all kinds of other things. That said to my knowledge the establishment of sentient races was never a priority. Instead, living things having FLESH is technically an aberration in the Titan’s design caused by the corruption of the Old Ones (generic lovecraftian tumour issued by the Void Lords to infest and corrupt Azeroth) and by default they make dudes out of living metal or celestial phenomena. Since they operate on a scale and timeframe greater than most things in the setting plus apart from the token evil one the Titans seem to be well-inclined towards sentient life despite being made of meat, it’s impossible to disprove that at some point isolating the populations didn’t advance it somehow. That said, their ultimate goal on Azeroth ultimately didn’t involve any of the created races. There is some debate going on right now whether the Titans were evil all along or not, mainly in the form of confusing new lore implications that have currently been downplayed in favour of the Void finally fucking making progress to eating Azeroth via the Void Lords’ equivalent of the Silver Surfer catching her Void Lord in a pokeball and using it’s power to sic armies of void creatures on the Sunwell.

>>160232 Well, I did find one if you are interested, in Stellar Transformations, Part 1: >An Earlier Moment +0 CP >If you so wish, the moment that you enter this world the wheel of time shall spin back towards an earlier point. Ten years, a hundred years, a thousand-you may start as far back as you like, provided that you must still stay your allotted twenty years. There is no additional cost or consequence to starting at an earlier moment, so if you are prepared do feel free to take advantage of it-perhaps this will grant you the opportunity to avert disasters or prevent tragedies before they are destined to play out?

>>160234 (me) Note that it also forces you to stay twenty years, and doesn't let you extend it, though there is another drawback in the same jump to at least extend it to where you want

>>160232 You could just grab time travel from Oracle of Ages and jump back to your preferred starting time when you enter the jump.

>>160205 >>160206 Revenge of the Runelords is going right now.

>>160010 >>160023 >>160029 Stop being dumb, Suzuka has been written by multiple writers so it tends to more schizophrenic rather then her not being interested. Besides Takenoko is a cuck who likes to watch so it's fine.

>>160234 oh, awesome. Thank you! >>160236 I know I'm weird, but I like abusing the jump system more than I like the idea of having time travel as a power.

>>160226 There's an immortality perk in Code:Breakers that lets you add however many years you want to your backstory, a perk in Ninja Gaiden that lets you set your age to be really young, and I know a few jumps have drawbacks that let you start off as a baby Combine the three and you could start off being born however long in the past you want

>>160239 Fair enough. I suggested Oracle of Ages because the time travel in it is the one I like because it doesn't let you do detailed time fuckery. It is limited to large inaccurate jumps which I like because it prevents me from doing detailed complex timetravel bullshit.

>>160226 We don't usually like to do that here, because starting date can be an element of balance. Like, for example, in any apocalyptic jump, you could start 10 years before the apocalypse and completely ignore it.

l e t s g o g a m b l i n g

>>160243 No, I'm waiting for the manga units

Should the 40k leveling system project funnel energy to the emperor? Part of its function is regeneration but considering his....state, it would take a lot.

>>160245 Yes, anything to restore the Emperor is a good thing.

>>160242 I know it's uncommon. I'm not new. But it has bothered me since the early days, like the early madoka jump that puts you in before the plot ever happens. But, I'm happy to play loose with the rules, so long as I'm doing so within certain constraints. I'm not actually trying to avoid anything, I just want to take part in the ancient history of the setting, and then take a return trip to visit the events of the books.

>>160246 Unless you accidentally him into the Dark King, or into the Chaos God of Order and Tyranny, or he just wakes up having learned nothing, being the same violent, myopic, overly ambitious warlord he always was, or he wakes up still missing the better parts of his soul... there's a lot that can go wrong, is the point.

>>160243 I CAN'T STOP WINNING!

>>160153 Using my godlike crafting build to make Ranni progressively cuter and more realistic doll bodies but each one is 1cm shorter than the last.

>>160245 Only if it includes a safety valve to cut it off if he starts turning into the Dark King.

>>160252 >Dark King I know that "Emperor might be turning into something evil" existed as a brainbug in one form or another for literal decades, but that's not a particularly great execution of that idea.

>>160245 Fixing Emps is going to need a lot more than regenerating him, as >>160248 can attest. Also, no, because the Emperor very likely just goes back to being as much of a problem as he was in 30k, just with a bunch of crises to distract him from doing the really stupid shit for a bit. Now, if you could specifically give it to the good part of the Emperor which isn't a asshole, MAYBE, but its best not to replace one magical tyrant (the Chaos Gods) with another if possible.

>>160254 NTA but isn't the Star Child the Emperor's discarded compassion? If you sent the healing energy to him through that and made them fuse back together as part of the process. . .

>>160253 Yeah, it’s literally just a Kirby villain. Kind of…off-brand.

>>160255 As I said, Maybe. The ultimate issue is that even if you fuse the Star Child properly back with Emps, you get the Emps of 30k. Which was a paranoid wreck, which, on paper, cares about humanity and making sure we can reach our potential, but was so openly xenophobic that he was willing to attack other human space empires for the horrific crime of getting along with xenos. Reviving him properly means you have a chance to convince him not to be a raging asshole, but it will only likely work because if you created a level system he very much will think you are some entity similar to the Chaos Gods but siding with him for some reason and he might not want to fight you now. Even then, if you can't be convinced that you are genuinely friendly and helpful, he likely would try to undermine you out of paranoia.

>>160257 The Emperor has pretty much always been a net positive, he has his flaws many of which trace back to him mutilating his own soul to be more coldly decisive but even going full warlord the Imperium would be a better place with him in charge than with him stuck on the torture throne. Sure the brutal oppression would get more efficient but it would also be less common as those who actually follow the imperial cause will have better lives in general. Which is most people. The Tau will get fucked and only some of them deserve it but most of those getting screwed over by a return of the Emperor in full will be genuinely evil abominations since for all his faults the Emperor was vastly better than the High Lords and the bureaucratic nightmare under them. The current situation of 40K is not one that would be made worse by the Emperor, at worst he just won't improve things as much as he could if he was less of an asshole.

>>160068 > Tamamo is closer to a jackal that gets fox features from Amaterasu Tamamo is actually still a fox, jackal is a shitty translation of Yakan.

>>160259 >>160260 I SAW THAT.

>>160258 I do agree that the current situation would be improved by the Emperor returning. This is less because he is some sort of Saint and more because the situation is just that bad at this point and the Imperium has fallen into so much corruption and rot that anyone capable of cleaning house at all can vastly improve the situation, as seen with Roboute Guilliman. But if its between that, and a top-level jumper capable of giving a leveling system to the galaxy who is likely far more capable of actually fixing things up then Emps while also not being a paranoid authoritarian dictator with a bit to much of an obsession with gold, then I am going to suggest the latter over the former.

>>160258 This is ridiculous apologism for a man who created the imperium in the first place, an atrocity built on a mountain of atrocities by any reasonable standard. The solution to the problems the Imperium has is to destroy the Imperium as a political entity and let the fractured remnants of mankind crawl out of the hole that the Imperium put them in, building a better civilization unfettered from his corpse and leaving him to be remembered as the monster who enslaved mankind for most of its history. Obviously, you do this after killing the Deldar and various other shitstains.

>>160263 I'm a secondary, but isn't the Imperium a necessary evil? Like, its horribleness is, at least in part, due to the galaxy being awful and there being legitimately no other option, and without the Imperium humanity gets turbo-fucked in short order.

>>160264 >I'm a secondary, but isn't the Imperium a necessary evil? Yes, it's currently the least bad option available (for humans).

>>160261 Messing up as bad as Typemoon translation team.

>>160266 Now I am curious. What was it?

>>160214 hm, odd. Just saw it on Youtube and it triggered a memory of people discussing it, figured it was on /jc/ but if the jump is that old it is likely before me

>>160257 >so openly xenophobic that he was willing to attack other human space empires for the horrific crime of getting along with xenos To be fair that was so rare as to not really be a thing. Remember that Horus was the first officially found Primarch, and was maybe the one fighting with him the longest fucking Alpha Legion multiple choice backstory bullshit and his response to finding an empire of humans and xenos working together in true harmony was to go “Secular shit! I didn't know this was even possible!” which means that he never came across anything like that before at all.

>>160268 >Paprika is still free on YT after all these years Thats genuinely surprising

>>160269 I'd like to back when interex and shit was confusing new lore rather than established bit of canon you are forced to adress in some way.

>>159956 I'd be shocked if Christian Europe even realized you were there by the time the jump came to a close. An island chain in the middle of the Atlantic in the year 1000 AD? Odds are decent they literally never even come across you, no one is going that far out into the Atlantic in that time period. Unless you go to them I can't imagine they'd even know you exist.

>>160264 Sort not really. The history of the Imperium starts before civilization, because the Emperor is just some random ass caveman who happened to have always been the most powerful guy ever for nebulous reasons, who decided his was the right to determine humanity's future. In the course of this, he was basically the illuminati throughout everything leading up to the Age of Strife, where the interstellar civilization humanity had already built collapsed into pieces due to FTL breaking. At this point, he decided to declare himself king of fuck mountain and brutally oppressed everyone, made everything completely dependent on himself to satisfy his massive ego, and is himself responsible for the technological regression, the inequity of planets, ect. all of which are endemic to the modern Imperium because he instantiated them by deciding the Imperium should exist at all in the way it does.

Why are female Servants like this?

>>160274 What are the female Servants going to do? Not rape their master?

>>160264 In universe? Yes and no. While by the current date the Imperium represents the majority of humanity and is one of the few things keeping humanity in general from having to side with Chaos or something similar, the only reason it got to that point was that any other human entity which might have actually grown to be a formidable force themselves were destroyed by said Imperium. Additionally, there are a lot of signs that the only reason Chaos has gotten so strong that it threatens humanity as a whole was entirely because the foundation of the Imperium was so brutal and the Horus Heresy strengthened them so much that it allowed Chaos to actually push out of the much smaller region they originally controlled and actively start conquering more human planets. As seen with the Voltann, while they are not nearly as expansionist or caring to fight Chaos as the Imperium, almost any other human civilization would have ultimately developed much stronger without any of the overly restrictive shit Emps enforced on humanity. >>160269 Eh, not wrong. The fall of the Interex are kind of complicated, but its pretty telling that the first reaction of the Imperium, after a horrific diplomatic incident where they effectively got accused of siding with Chaos after one of Warmaster Horus retinue had stolen a major artifact wasn't to attempt to diplomatically resolve the situation, but to conquer them and exterminate all of the xenos which were originally seen as 'fine'. It was less that they were fine with the xenos as a whole and more that they were willing to postpone killing them as long as relations were maintained. >>160271 I mean, the Interex mostly were added to show how grimpdark the current setting is by essentially adding an actual reasonable empire and saying "see, humanity could have been this, but it went wrooooong!".

>>160273 t.Chaos

>>160274 Aren't Command Seals meant to be used to prevent exactly this scenario?

>>160274 Grail Wars tend to involve Great (Wo)Men, not necessarily moral ones.

>>160274 You know, the strange thing is, I can't think of any time this actually happens. The closest situation is with Summer Tamamo, but even then its not like she was claiming you couldn't date, unlike her normal version.

>>160258 We got along pretty well, yeah. It’s nice to deal with someone with whom I know where I stand. I just helped him finish his Enuncia translation project then sat back and watched him work after firewalling off Chaos. … …actually, I wonder if I should create a human subspecies of my own? Recreate my cute monstergirl daughterus using local stock, as I did in Destiny. Now that the corpus thing is confirmed canon dealing with the Chaos Gods is much less complicated than was previously assumed. I’ve already nullified all of the missteps of the Imperium from preventing the departure of the Primarchs to (amazingly enough) being the voice of reason and moderation to the Emperor regarding the divergent human civilisations (the cuendillar seals on the Warp as a whole helped). I’ve already leveraged the completely inexplicable friendship between Sanguinius and the Silent King which is totally not just the Silent King fucking with ignorant naked apes as a gobetween due to being the galaxy’s token semi-benevolent C’tan and granting the Necrontyr a form of immortality that preserves their souls. I have an entire Space Marine chapter that feels kind of sad knowing their Primarch’s purpose will eventually involve leaving the Imperium behind. Oh, and I have two Erdas bumming around in caves doing nothing. I could do it. Reverse engineer the principles of enhancing psychic potential through collective conscious which regardless of the Emperor’s past has been substantiated by very old 40K precedent specifically Inquisitor Draco, then use enhanced psychic power as well as the Enuncia to sculpt life on a scale matched only by the Old Ones. Give humans better collective psychic might and uniform purpose/nature than orks, more adaptable physiology than tyranids, and with all the finished science of the Necrontyr. I don’t have to contest the Emperor over the galaxy. As a eusocial ethnostate I would have them hunt and eventually domesticate the migratory patterns of the Tyranids, adapting to the interstellar void and spreading to not just the far corners of the universe but alternate timelines and the past or future. I probably shouldn’t because even if I don’t set out to be the final boss of 40K, the Emperor would absolutely lose his shit and come after me for making Xeelee Saga-like humans to cultivate into Downstreamers. It’s just a shame it has to remain theoretical for strategic concerns despite the lack of a resource shortage at this point. >>160273 >nebulous reasons Either his birth was the plan of a bunch of fused shamans or he stole power from the Chaos Gods, and either way he was the top psychic dog on Earth by the time he was trying to recruit the other Perpetuals to his cause.

>>160258 It's also worth pointing out that going by canon just leaving him on the golden throne isn't a solution anyway since it's in the process of failing after so many thousands of years without proper maintenance >>160273 I feel this completely ignores just how bad things were on Earth, much less other planets, before the Emperor actually revealed himself and got going. There were literal Chaos cults and nations led by chaos sorcerers on Earth after the fall, and before Emps came out swinging, and to even slightly infer that the setting would have been better off with those guys and the techno-barbarians as opposed to the Emperor is nothing short of laughable.

>>160267 It was the same post but without the reply. >>160278 Not if they spike your drink.

>>160279 >Pic Godspeed to the one anon masochistic enough to make a dupe

>>160281 Hey in the Silent Hill F jump if a fem-jumper / waifu picks up that god capstone perk for being the embodiment of the patriarchy can they instead be the embodiment of the matriarchy? Also, just as an aside, wtf is even going on in Silent Hill F in the first place? I don't have like 30+ hours to watch a long play of new game 4+.

>>160284 Dupe of what?

>>160282 >>160282 I think the anon just hates the emperor

>>160286 Danmachi

>>159956 Don't expect a crusade, but do prepare for possible Norsemen. They're landing in Vinland right about when you show up, after all, so if anyone gets lost on the way back they might run into you. Whether these are Christian already or just the last few pagans, you might be seeing longships before long. What happens from there depends on whether they're trading, raiding, exploring, or settling, but the Viking Age proper ends just sixty-six years out from when you're landing, so you shouldn't have TOO many problems. Also, watch out for the weather, things are going to start getting colder fairly soon. Now, on the other hand, if you stuck yourself in the middle of the Pacific, Polynesians would be inevitable. The Long Pause has just ended, so the canoes will be arriving shortly.

>>160288 Ah. That. Uh. I really should get back to it.

>>160285 Oh no, given the slant of the game (and also just the fact that Japanese gender politics are…not entirely akin western ones) I would say is a female Jumper would instead be a champion and icon of the traditional Japanese patriarchy that just happens to be female. “She’s one of the good young ‘uns, a real young lady of class and means”, the old privileged conservative Japanese boomers would probably say about you if they weren’t busy being metaphorical divine entities. There hasn’t been significant centralised female authority in Japan since the time of Queen Himiko, they literally only got a female prime minister last month. It is like the difference between being a Greater Daemon or Chaos Champion if that makes any sense. But…patriarchy, instead of Chaos. >wtf is even going on Just search ”all 4 endings” on ShitTube with your favourite Chrome clone to fuck over advertiser scum. Long story short, the NG+ thing is apparently happening in-universe because a god highly implied to be the messenger or representative of a very old tree that was worshipped before the foxes is trying to fuck up the entire marriage because it’s jealous the foxes stole it’s worship and thus power. Subsequent replays unlocks different perspectives on what’s going on, like more insight into the parents’ relationship, and ultimately lead to different outcomes at the end. It is still unclear how present all humans apart from Hinako are. The final ending involves Hinako realising she’s been played and beating up the interfering tree(?) god to break the loop once and for all

>>160282 Didn't he actually sign a degree that he must be put back in the throne if he ever gets cured and tries to leave it or something?

>>160292 The Terminus Decree is probably what you're thinking of, yes(?)

>>160292 Apart of the new lore, that he only told the grey knights for some reason

>>160282 >I feel this completely ignores just how bad things were on Earth, much less other planets, before the Emperor actually revealed himself and got going. Yeah, I am ignoring that, because in my opinion Earth doesn't fucking matter in the grand scheme of things. The forces of Chaos are self sabotaging even on their best days, if the Emperor had poofed at the start of the Age of Strife, then Chaos would have ripped Earth apart and then petered out because they can never build successful empires, only subvert them. Earth is just one fucking planet. There are plenty like it in the galaxy. And, you know, many of those other planets which you seem to gloss over would have been the seeds of much better civilizations than the Imperium would have been, had they been allowed to grow. Would they have also destroyed their competitors? Yeah probably, I'm not saying a lot of them didn't deserve to be destroyed, but they would have managed it without establishing an absolute central authority dependent on a single man who maintains his autocracy with literal brainwashing. The future of humanity would have continued to progress even if most of them eventually collapsed because there would be something that could feasibly grow into the gaps left behind.

>>160294 Oh yeah, if he ascend to a warp god they must put him back in the throne somehow too.

>>160296 I swear the new staff at GW hate 40k

>>160233 Inazuma is a not-Japan roughly the size of the Palestinian Territories ruled by a lightning goddess who transferred her soul into a sword to avoid entropy after making a self-aware and ensouled puppet identical to her to manage her day-to-day affairs.

>>160296 The most retarded lore they've done in a long while, and that's really saying something.

>>160246 He's a retarded tyrant. The galaxy would unironically be better off with him dead.

>>160282 >There were literal Chaos cults and nations led by chaos sorcerers on Earth after the fall, and before Emps came out swinging, and to even slightly infer that the setting would have been better off with those guys and the techno-barbarians as opposed to the Emperor is nothing short of laughable. I mean, here is the thing: all the various Chaos cults pre-imperium were so scattered in their beliefs, a lot of them wouldn't even have empowered the actual Chaos gods but create alternate versions of them in the Warp. Chaos ironically became more united after the Imperium snuffed out the cults, as it allowed certain interpretations of the Chaos gods to take hold and spread because it let the remaining Chaos worshippers solidify their beliefs. Additionally, the primary reason why Chaos can invade other planets AT ALL is because of all the Space Marine legions that fell to Chaos. This is a risk regardless on which hypothetical supernation fell to Chaos, but most Chaos incursions would be far weaker if they didn't get as far as it did. There are also some signs that Chaos intentionally wanted the Imperium to come into being to increase their power, but this is much more speculative so I figured its best to spoil it. >>160287 It really is not that hard. Again, when your best argument for Emps is that the other side is worse, that doesn't exactly make him the most appealling individual. All of his good traits are often riddled with hypocracy, and he is ultimately a tyrant who insists that HE is the only one who can guide humanity, and everyone else who insists otherwise is wrong.

Goddamn typo deleting my spoiler. My shame is evident.

So in new 40k lore Kill the emperor and then do it again when he becomes a chaos god.

>>160296 Its like the writers actively hate the setting

>>160300 >>160302 Big E was literally trying to set up a more Republic like government for mankind and seemed to mostly plan on just hanging around as a figurehead in case shit ever really hit the fan again while trying to make us our own Webway.

>>159973 >>160117 Absorbing both protagonists and largely sticking to the plot of 1 leaves us mostly at the same end result. My occasional lapses in possession and absorption mean that by the time Epic of Remnant comes around everything is off the rails. Holmes catches on early which leads him to avoiding Chaldea, and consequently throws Shinjuku's original plot to the winds. Seraph avoids chain ending solely due to using a clone to go. Agartha is a major breakthrough point solely due to absorbing Phenex who immortality aside is a major mana generator which clears up my biggest weakness with it's addition. Ashiya Douman as a foreign disciple takes an interest in me and decides to make everything from Shimousa onwards ten times more obnoxious since instead of casually playing around he is actively messing with me. Part 2 is a hot mess the whole way through as I scramble to adjust to all the moving bits and pieces after they've been butterflied. Atlantis onwards is particularly bad and I largely pull through in the same ways as canon by relying on the remnant servants and God Destroyer Alliance. Avalon le Fae goes off the rails when a few clones I snuck into Camelot take advantage of Morgan's execution to absorb her when she is weakened. From there I give up on Ordeal Stall and just beeline to absorbing U-Olga and then ORT (subspecies) before cracking the planet and vibing in space for 8 years. I really don't see a way through Ordeal Stall given the trial and turning off Chaldeas isn't enough to cancel Part 2. Best I can do is quit while I'm ahead. Jump 2 Mind Control Isekai >Location Divine Realm >Origin Summoned Hero (200) >Drawbacks Flat Broke >Perks Cheat Skill [Absolute Possession] Hey What If I Appreciate The Fanservice [Absolute Submission] Throne of Heaven (Magic) >Items Guidebook With the bullshit of the previous jump out of the way its time for a vacation. Mindless fun with the local monstergirls and goddess, plus abusing hundred face hassan's duplication mixed with a slimy fate to enjoy time with a harem of servants. My brain is off and my soul is healed by being free from Marisbilly's Wild Ride. At least until the next FGO jump.

>>160279 >pic Reminder that the girl on the left should be getting the MC's cheat skill.

How does your jumper reward their most loyal and/or successful followers?

>>160270 Nah, it's newly free this month.

>>160306 Brother, do you really want to start us on talking about what the Emperor of Mankind's thoughts and intentions were, when GW is full to bursting with hack writers who have retconned everything a billion types?

>>160296 The implication that the Emperor legitimately thinks the Grey Knights are powerful enough to manhandle a fucking Chaos God back onto the throne with enough determination and effort but hasn’t sent them to like, stuff Khorne in a bag and toss him into a black hole or something is funny to me. It’s like someone saw what the Ultramarines did to Magnus in TTS and decided to up the ante then make it canon.

>>160308 the amazon girl? Why?

>>160309 Access to more of my super soldier upgrades, and the "VIPs only" part of the afterlife if/when they get there.

>>160309 cultivation resources and greater access to jumper's library, relative to the value of their accomplishments.

>>160312 >The implication that the Emperor legitimately thinks the Grey Knights are powerful enough to manhandle a fucking Chaos God back onto the throne with enough determination and effort but hasn’t sent them to like, stuff Khorne in a bag and toss him into a black hole or something is funny to me. That would kinda imply the Big E expects to be a weaksauce chaos god since he didn't send them after other chaos gods.

>>160313 NTA, it's because she literally has exactly the same situation IE simping like mad after someone way stronger than her. Except she's actually more deserving, because her feelings are stronger

>>160309 Give them a golden pearl so they can form their own Bevin

>>160302 >It really is not that hard. Again, when your best argument for Emps is that the other side is worse, that doesn't exactly make him the most appealling individual. All of his good traits are often riddled with hypocracy, and he is ultimately a tyrant who insists that HE is the only one who can guide humanity, and everyone else who insists otherwise is wrong. I don't care much for him as well but after the age of strife where he saw how humanity had fallen so low of course he would take the mantel. He didn't want to and activily avoided it until he had no choice, the fight of old night made him that way, he had to become a tyrant to protect what he cared about and see it prosper. I don't really like Big E but I can understand him

>>160296 Are we sure the Grey Knights aren't a Chaos plant considering they muder Sisters of Battle to wipe the blood on their armor?

>>160309 Look man I just make sure the afterlife and universe keeps going every plane and planet has its own gods and goddesses to do the nitty gritty. I do have a deal where you can choose, reincarnate into a different world, join my army, void, or spend as long as you want in the afterlife dimensions.

>>160320 That would require GW being able to write good stories or for their lore department to actually talk to each other

>>160320 >Are we sure the Grey Knights aren't a Chaos plant considering they muder Sisters of Battle to wipe the blood on their armor? Once a month was too slow for their sister of battle blood supply.

>>160243 Yes, lets buy out struggling companies, use organization and business perks to make them unstoppable engines of commerce, then take a 1000 year nap while accumulating value on the shares. The gambling is whether or not the surrounding civilization survived long enough that jumper can collect interest upon awakening.

>>160309 It’s entirely on a case by case basis. There is so much variance between my most loyal and successful followers that the category encompasses beings who would be DC Crisis villains if they weren’t working for me, and magical girl main characters. I just have a freeform wish granting system rigged to a Miracle Machine so I can manifest a floating whether someone wants their own infinite multiverse of perfectly static crystals and sonic patterns that orbits her forever, for me to show mercy to a universe that might otherwise pose a threat to my plans, a curated set of blank but nutritious souls, or a headpat.

>>160313 >>160317 It was the one on the right with the tiddies, because the flatty is slowly being dragged into MC-kun's orbit; but yes, she simps for her party leader significantly more than Bell does for Ais to the point that it's basically her (other) defining characteristic by the time she's introduced in the story, with the other being not flat like her (supposed twin) sister.

>>160309 It depends. For some, she sculpts their bodies anew, stronger, healthier, more comfortable to live in, even bearing a measure of her regeneration. For others, she heals their wounds, fades their scars, and undoes whatever disabilities they might seek to discard - or grants this boon to whoever they quested on behalf of. She will also do this for those who sufficiently impress her even if they aren't her followers, so long as they aren't specifically enemies, and the healing thing she'll even do if she's just feeling sentimental that day. Foreign Contact from The Free Universe (can share biological powers with a meaningful touch) and Gloriana from A Study in Emerald (heal anything short of outright death with a touch) are fun perks. Now I just need perks to make people metaphysically count as my children and I can adopt people and have them inherit my bloodline powers. That's probably going in a later arc, though.

>>160318 At least you're not a Prison Meister.

>>160328 >Inherit my non-biological bloodline powers Why do I keep forgetting words?

>>160319 He stomped out every positive quality of humanity and actively advanced the agenda of Chaos. He didn't need to take the reins, he shouldn't have. What he used his power for when he finally decided to get off his ass proves, is only that he never had the best intentions no matter how high off his own farts he was. He never did shit to better humanity before the Age of Strife, and coming out of it, he's the one who declared himself an Emperor and strangled mankind's potential by making it dependent upon him.

>>160329 Good times. Gooood times...

>>160306 Disagree. The only reason he created the High Council at all is that he thought that mortals should have SOME say, but instead of actually making some representative council to reflect the people of his Empire he decided "fuck it, just convert the non-primarch part of the War Council to rule in my stead" while he fucked off to focus on the Webway project screams someone who just needed someone to do the actual job of running the Imperium while he focused on what matters. Hell, they still were tasked SPECIFICALLY to fulfilling his orders, so his 'republic' would be closer to if the US only had the executive branch alongside an immortal god-king who told everyone what to do. >>160319 Don't get me wrong, I perfectly understand that the Emperor means well. But just like we don't let kids who had a bad childhood beat the shit out of people who were also pieces of shit unpunished, Emps doesn't get away scot-free for his crimes just because he had "good intentions". >>160309 I have perks for making my subordinates lives better. If I have to reward them directly, I will usually just get them gifts or something, because I'm friends with my followers and they already got my support elsewhere. >>160329 But then again, why not be a Rim Meister?

>>160332 Go home ADB, you're drunk.

>>160321 Reference to the Conduit CYOA. https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gwzwnr7j The basic premise is that there's dimensional travelers, called Conduits, that gain power by traveling across worlds, with the biggest stuff requiring you to "Master" a world, which you can only do to a single world. A Bevin is an artificial sanctuary cave dimension thingy made by ancient Conduits. It's a place of rest and recovery, generally taking the form of a comfortable cave lair thing with a huge lake and nice water features A Golden Pearl is something only a person who has chosen to master a Bevin can produce and they can only make one per decade. They can either use their pearls to make their Bevin bigger, or they can give it to someone else to turn them into a Lesser form of a Conduit. Basically, I reward my most loyal people by giving them an incredibly limited resource that'll give them an eternal sanctuary and immortality

>>160331 ...The fuck do those grey knights think they'll even be able to do?

>>160337 Murder Sister for another powerup, probably?

>>160336 Ah, I was under the impression it was a Xianxia thing.

>>160332 Nigga what? The things that the Emperor saw and fought that almost even killed him multiple times during Old night was haunting Terra, even if you don't like Emperor he did a positive good to most things because the alternative was way worse

>>160272 I was planning on colonizing the Azores and integrating the Canaries as a protectorate. Probably establishing trade with Ireland and Iceland within the first two decades. >>160289 It would honestly be rather weird if I end up with Christian Norsemen visiting, considering the Jump immediately before this was The Circumstances Leading to Waltraute's Marriage, and I was one of the Æsir, have a regular delivery service of apples from Idunn, and a copy of Gungnir….and Freyja. Would make things kinda awkward.

>>160339 Nah. Although a Bevin's an absolutely wonderful place for Xianxia things, now that I think about it. It's a safe and comfortable place that no one else can get to, and it comes with loyal unseen servants that'll do whatever you need them to do, before you even need to order them. They'll even learn new skills if you bring the appropriate tools into your Bevin Basically, absolutely wonderful place to spend a large amount of time meditating or to start an alchemical garden.

>>160337 Get hard countered by the sisters of silence before being smeared by the Custodians

>>160340 Stop equating 'terra' with 'most things' and you'll maybe start to understand what's actually being talked about. Earth doesn't matter in the span of the Imperium, it would have been just as good if not far better if Earth ceased to exist along with Emps.

>>160334 >Don't get me wrong, I perfectly understand that the Emperor means well. But just like we don't let kids who had a bad childhood beat the shit out of people who were also pieces of shit unpunished, Emps doesn't get away scot-free for his crimes just because he had "good intentions". I never said he gets away scot free, I'm saying I understand his goals and what he wants to do but disagree with how he went with doing it, trying to speed run a stelaris playthrough after doing a Civ playthrough

>>160341 Iceland's Althing may be questioning its recent decision to be officially Christian (a decision that happens the very year you show up) for trade purposes if this gets out. Well, either that, or the pagans allowed to continue their practices in private will just feel vindicated when everyone sits down to discuss all of this.

>>160339 Nah, Crucible is the xianxia conduit world. Well among the canon ones. The Mandela fanworld is probably the closest there is to a xianxia Conduit world. >>160346 Well first of all there would need to be a codified pagan faith for everyone to agree on instead of numerous oral traditions passed on by different clans.

>>160344 And I'm saying even outside of that anon the crusade was needed. Did it do all good? No, The Emperors need to bring ALL of humanity under one banner again was dumb, but it WAS a good thing for the most part

Mr. Bean is an alien, right? Would the Imperium destroy his people for being xeno scum?

>>160347 Indeed. Such an issue would also need to be legislated at the Althing. The Althing is going to be busy.

>>160347 >Well first of all there would need to be a codified pagan faith for everyone to agree on instead of numerous oral traditions passed on by different clans. The funny thing is most pagans think all of Europe just worshipped Odin or something and maybe greek gods. Its a meme

Good night my nikkas I'll hope tomorrow I can finish m workload and go to locals I'll let you decide which deck I use. >Naturia >Gem knight >Adamancipator >Chimera Fusion pile

>>160352 >Adamancipator This

>>160348 >but it WAS a good thing for the most part This is an assertion with no weight. It did a lot of harm, and whatever good you think it did, it didn't do because it wasn't necessary. Any good thing that happened as a byproduct would have happened otherwise, so all the crusade ever achieved was purely detrimental.

>>160349 Correct. And that…honestly depends on which branch of the Imperium encounters it first. The most likely and grimdark explanation is that some high-strung Inquisitor who hasn’t had his daily dose of BLAMS to feel good about his worthless existence sees spacefaring nonhumans and immediately orders an Exterminatus for no good reason. But there actually is a chance that if a pragmatic Order Xenos rep or an EXTREMELY eccentric Primarch (I’m talking Roboute and his memed gf) is the one to make first contact, the Bean Species is benign enough to be considered potential allies. This is however very unlikely. Moreso than ever since GW has apparently decided to effectively squat the Ynnari while unsquatting the actual squats. >>160351 >That one clan who shows up asking why everyone hates their noble forefather Loki, friend of Odin >>160352 Gem knight.

>>160352 >>Naturia >>Gem knight >>Adamancipator >>Chimera Fusion pile 1d4 = 1

>>160352 How do anime girls cope with having such oversized chests?

>>160352 >Adamancipator This one, I haven't played for too long to know what's good but the big monsters in this archetype look cool.

No matter where you stand on Big E, I think we can all agree that 40k would have turned out much better if it had been the God Senator of Mankind Armstrong ruling things with unparalleled psychic might instead.

>>160355 >the Bean Species is benign enough to be considered potential allies I think that's outweighed by their incompetence.

>>160360 I strongly disagree.

>>160345 I was trying to agree with you, sorry if it sounded like I wasn't, it wasn't my intention. >>160348 We don't ultimately know how needed it was. Chaos wasn't yet a major threat to justify it, and while there were some pretty shitty xenos at the time its a genuine question of killing them was worth killing the countless other xenos who were likely more then willing to be friendly with humanity. In many ways, the Emperor is well paralleled by Caesar of Caesar's Legion in Fallout New Vegas. He intends to unite the US into a new form that won't collapse again. At the same time, he is perfectly willing to destroy currently functional governments just so he can have more control, while at the same time suppressing the technology of the general populace 'for their own good'.Sure, what he says sounds like a good thing, but looking in between the cracks it becomes increasingly obvious that they are more power hungry then they would like to imply. >>160360 ...Actually, to some extent, yes. He wouldn't be MUCH better, seeing as he still is a might makes right kind of guy, but at least he wouldn't be a hypocrite. Hell, he would probably be chill to many xenos as well.

>>160360 Apparently 8chan is just saying no to me posting gifs today. Ah whatever.

>>160364 Post pngs instead.

>>160361 …fair enough, let me rephrase: The Bean species is benign enough to be considered pets used to bribe particularly eccentric Imperial nobles. >>160360 I’m pretty sure Godstrong would have inadvertently handed the Imperium to him on a platter since fighting for your own reasons is still…well, fighting. Unless the plan is to turn humanity into orks in which case, fair enough, orks seem surprisingly Khorne-proof even when Khorne is trying to reward them by bringing them to one of his battleworlds. The more I learn about nu-40K lore, the more I’m struck by the fact that I am simultaneously more and less (at least, in the short term) extreme than Emps in different areas.

Where can I get/be a werewolf with the ability to teleport A Wherewolf, if you will

>>160367 >Not a Wearwolf who steals and wears people's clothes

>>160367 The Sims 4 Werewolves get the ability to teleport by tunneling through the ground

>>160367 >spoiler 87 years dungeon!

>>160367 Warcraft.

>>160351 To be fair, you had roughly similar gods between the different Germanic groups, but they diverged during the Migration period even before a bunch of them turned Christian. Tiwaz/Tyr became less and less important to the Norse as Odin/Wodanaz waxed in prestige whereas he was just fine elsewhere, Frijjo may or may not have split into Frigg and Freya in the north while remaining one goddess in southern Germanic lands - their pantheons weren't exactly the same, but they were variations on a theme. Beyond that, you get the Celtic gods (differing between continental and insular, with the insulars in turn not the same between Britons and Irish) the Greek gods (who may or may not have absorbed some Semitic and Mesopotamian gods during that 500-year-or-so period when the Greeks forgot how to write stuff down), the Italic gods (and the Etruscan ones they absorbed while also syncretizing with the Greek ones), the Baltic gods (Lithuanian, Latvian, and Prussian), the Slavic gods, and they're all very distantly related to the Vedic Devas by virtue of ultimately stemming from the original Indo-European gods. It's a big beautiful mess full of people (outside of the Greeks and Romans in Europe) not writing things down because oral traditions are honestly pretty reliable right up until someone starts killing the storytellers. Then you had all the migrations and conquests mixing things up and people failing to write things down, and before you know it, the Greek god of the North Wind (Boreas) has become the Japanese wind god Fujin (it starts with Alexander the Great marching all the way to India, continues with the Greco-Bactrian kingdoms doing Greco-Buddhism, and sees Boreas turn into Wardo in India and Feng Bo in China as he travels east with Buddhism proper until we finally get the green guy with the bag of wind). It can be a bit difficult for the average person to keep track of, even if they are a dedicated reconstructionist Neopagan, is what I'm saying.

>>160365 Sadly such Italian saucery is still beyond my skillset. Pastamancy is as far as I ever got.

>>160366 >I’m pretty sure Godstrong would have inadvertently handed the Imperium to him on a platter since fighting for your own reasons is still…well, fighting. Strangely enough, it wouldn't be as much as you would think. While all people being killed does strengthen Khorne, the very fact that it has a purpose (even if the purpose was to 'prove your strength of ideology' or something like that would actually make it less empowering in a symbolic sense. Combined with the fact that Armstrong isn't going to be arbitraily fucking over existing religions, and Chaos is still net weaker in this scenerio, as the various gods of humanity will still be around to push back against them if they are present. This is ignoring the fact that everyone would obviously begin worshipping Armstrong, of course, but I'm giving some slack here.

>>160367 DYN Freaks, Hounds of Tindalos, Ferocious Blue.

>>160372 He's more of a Whenwolf, isn't he?

>>160367 OWoD Woofs can do this with ritual stuff.

>>160377 I'm sure he has a cousin who can teach him mage portals.

>>160367 Castlevania Netflix, there is an option to get a weird ability as a monster like that cyclops that petrifies people. Otherwise there are a lot of settings where you can pick to be a werewolf in addition to being a werewolf and just pick up teleportation magic, like DnD related stuff or Highschool DxD.

>>160367 Dragonfable and AQW

>>160373 And to this day, nobody knows who made up Loki. Maybe Loki, not Odin, was the Jumper all along. >>160375 >the various gods of humanity Eh, I’m not sure how much of a help they’d be considering how well the Eldar pantheon fared.

>>160369 Ehhhh... >>160370 Denied! >>160371 What even is this. I feel like this is from looney tunes. Is this from looney tunes? >>160372 >>160377 That is a whenwolf, correct. >>160376 Thank you. >>160378 Yes but owod woofs deserve death and I'm not becoming one.

>>160383 >Ehhhh... It is exactly as fast as actual teleportation

>>160331 >get back on the chair my god emperor How about no and fuck you. How are the grey knights not a fake chapter? Or whatever you call a group of astartes? They constantly destroy the imperiums anti chaos forces

Good evening fellow self-inserters, in Chainsaw Man, what type of powers would a devil embodying the primal fear of the unknown have?

>>160386 Who knows?

>>160386 That's just the Darkness Devil. Darkness and the unknown are the same concept in terms of fear

>>160386 It would be absolutely unstoppable off-panel, and characters witnessing the aftermath would be more traumatized by it than people who actually lived through it because their imaginations would run away with them while survivors wouldn't be able to remember any specifics.

>>160383 >What even is this. I feel like this is from looney tunes. Is this from looney tunes? I was just playing off your terrible pun. Think the actual machine used to be at a baseball stadium? >>160386 Erasing knowledge of itself, being anywhere that isn't being actively observed by people, censoring itself when perceived.

>>160386 Oh I dont know...

>>160386 Devils seem to have completely arbitrary abilities, and I don't mean this to besmirch the author, but rather in the sense that the most powerful Devils all seem to be themed reality warpers with very vaguely defined limits. They don't necessarily have specific superpowers.

Did anyone ever make that dragonriders of pern jump?

>>160392 >and I don't mean this to besmirch the author do so

>>160367 The Garou can do this :^)

>>160392 So they're basically like Stand users in JoJo where low-level Stands actually do kind of relate to their Stand name but after a certain point it's just unrelated bullshit all the way down?

>>160354 >This is an assertion with no weight. It did a lot of harm, and whatever good you think it did, it didn't do because it wasn't necessary. Any good thing that happened as a byproduct would have happened otherwise, so all the crusade ever achieved was purely detrimental. What you're saying has even less assertion since we have even less to deal with, it was argued that humanity shouldn't have tried the crusade and should have just be left to slowly die in ignorance of what they once were, and some would consider it better, but it was NEVER going to be another great human empire that wouldn't have gotten raped by any of the other horrors. The main thing of the aftermath is we can't go back and the only way out is through >>160363 >I was trying to agree with you, sorry if it sounded like I wasn't, it wasn't my intention. Its fine, >>160363 >We don't ultimately know how needed it was. Chaos wasn't yet a major threat to justify it, and while there were some pretty shitty xenos at the time its a genuine question of killing them was worth killing the countless other xenos who were likely more then willing to be friendly with humanity. Chaos was always nipping at the heels even during the crusade like when the luna wolves got possessed by a daemon of Nurgle. And the emperor's reaction to the Xenos were built on pass experiences of them where almost EVERY SINGLE xeno ally humanity had betrayed them and tried to wipe them out after the rebellion of the Men of Iron, so Big E just decided to not take any chances again. >In many ways, the Emperor is well paralleled by Caesar of Caesar's Legion in Fallout New Vegas. He intends to unite the US into a new form that won't collapse again. At the same time, he is perfectly willing to destroy currently functional governments just so he can have more control, while at the same time suppressing the technology of the general populace 'for their own good'.Sure, what he says sounds like a good thing, but looking in between the cracks it becomes increasingly obvious that they are more power hungry then they would like to imply. I'm sorta getting what you're putting down but I'd have to disagree, since alot of that tech IS BAD, like crack a solar system bad. Remember and think of the silliest and most powerful tech that the imperium uses even sparingly and DAoT that was sealed away was even worse. And the Emperor does care and DOES believe in humanity, if he didn't even for a millisecond Chaos would have already won

>>160104 Okay, I am off work and here is Wanderer's drive as asked. It is small as expected https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZdVDAsOdiMKqUkwDMT3KdNlf_WrtfQ7M

>>160386 Just look at Blackbeard and Sukuna beating Gojo and you basically have your answer.

>>160398 Tenks, adding now.

>>160394 There is no good reason for why the Fire Devil should have the ability to turn people into pseudo-Devils, not even according to the logic of concept bullshit.

>>160393 No. BLADE was planning on making a jump for specifically the Harper Hall trilogy, but that didn't pan out

>>160401 Obviously its because fire spreads! Im just bullshitting I only saw 1 or 2 episodes

>>160401 Fire very specifically turns other things into more fire.

>>160402 Ah well fuck. I have a couple copies of the big data books and map books. Harper hall is the best but Im sure people would want something that started in the actual first book instead. As a rider.

>>160386 They'd basically be the Devil equivalent of King from One-Punch Man where they're actually completely powerless but everyone confronted by them uncontrollably extrapolates the possibility of what they're capable of and keeps misinterpreting everything they do as actually proof of their seemingly infinite monstrous and terrifying powers.

>>160397 >but it was NEVER going to be another great human empire I dispute this. Motherfucker, there would have been a dozen human empires greater than the Imperium if the Imperium didn't happen to them, because technology would have continued to advance instead of stagnating. The idea that there wouldn't have been any future without the Emperor is just Imperium cope. You're just an emperor simp.

>>160309 Yes, jumper's maid gets to bask in his glory every day. She also has the honor of tending his garden and being his body guard. The last time he tried to force her to take a vacation she started a cult in his name.

>>160392 There's an in-universe theory that chainsaws used to have another use besides cutting down trees that would have justified the Chainsaw Devil's ability to retroactively erase concepts, but erasing so many concepts also inadvertently erased this theoretical use as well, leaving the power without any context to justify it. So perhaps this applies to other devils as well. This occurred to me just now though, so assuming the author also thought of it might be giving him undue credit.

>>160382 Other funny things include: >the possible Vedic-Iranian theological feud, what with Ahuras vs. Daevas and Devas vs. Asuras >the Basques are also there; they're not Indo-Europeans, they might be the last remnants of the Early European Farmers, but their pre-Christian mythology is at least somewhat attested >who the hell were the Sumerians, actually? A(n) (ethno?)linguistic isolate surrounded by Afroasiatic (East Semitic) speakers and Indo-European (Anatolian and Indo-Iranian) speakers, they managed to theologically influence everyone around them to the point of even reaching the Romans (Inanna -> Ishtar -> Astarte -> Aphrodite -> Venus)

>>160346 >>160347 >>160355 The real wildcard is that in CK2, Odin is actually real. You can meet him in an event. You can also participate in the summoning of Cthulhu (and either ram him with a boat or die, he goes back to sleep either way), call upon the power of Satan (and all the chthonic or witchy deities still worshiped) to send a demon to possess people, steal their lifeforce, or give you (if you’re a dude) your dick back after you managed to loose it, and praying to Jesus, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu or Zeus can cure cancer. None of this is obvious to the average person, but it’s all there. ‘course, I have Circumstances Freyja along, so she’s likely to take an interest in the Icelanders and possibly push things a bit either subtly or, uh, not so subtly. >>160351 Most polytheistic cultures assume everyone else worships their own gods along with the gods they actually worship if they’re familiar enough to know who they are. It leads to funny times. Ironically the East Roman’s still talk about Slavs and Steppe Nomads worshiping Mars and Venus.

>>160385 The same way the Marines Malevolent apparently have the job of making all the other Chapters miserable and being rewarded for it by the Lords of Terra, I guess? I bet their Primarch disowned them so hard their lineage is censored from Imperial record.

>>160409 Well yeah, they did. They were used for c-sections during childbirth.

How strong would the Devil Devil be in Chainsaw Man?

>>160414 But about the Devil Devil Devil (the DDD)? The Devil who embodies fear of the Devil Devil?

>>160414 >>160415 No. Bad. No recursion. Cease this immediately.

>>160414 My idea was that they can summon chibi minion versions of the other devils that have those devils' powers, but how close their strength is compared to the originals depends on how scared people are of devils as a whole

>>160416 Become the infinite recursion devil

>>160413 The theory that the Chainsaw devil is actually the Birth devil makes a lot of sense, since it easily justifies why the erasure is retroactive. It's because he's undoing their birth. Also, this ties back neatly into Denji's quest to get laid.

>>160410 >the Sea People are actually an ancient Sumerian falseflag for attacking other nations that got poorly recorded and assumed to be a separate civilisation by later researchers >>160407 I think in the current canon, the success of the League of Votann at literally every field except pure expansion for expansion’s sake compared to the current Imperium is the strongest anti-Emps argument there is. >>160412 …actually, let me amend this post of mine with another theory. >The Marines Malevolent is just a falseflag operation conducted by the Minotaurs to commit even more warcrimes shucked off to a different identity. It’s like Alpharius and Omegon but more overtly evil.

>>160419 >femdom vore unbirth manga

>>160419 >Denji's quest to get laid Poor bastard is doomed on that count. RIP our boy.

>>160420 You'd think that, but the Sea Peoples are about a thousand years too late to be proper Sumerians (and also some of them were probably Greeks turned pirate after the Trojan War went Not As Planned and things started getting bad at home).

>>160422 Cucked by America itself. Even Suzuka Gozen has never cheated on her man with an entire country.

>>160231 Thank you, that all seems like very reasonable advice.

I'm coming in to officially report that Time Strangers is fucking sick and I'm so happy I avoided spoilers.

>>160313 nta but the flatty, Tiona, basically has a burning desire at least as strong as Bell's and a far more tragic backstory which she managed to overcome. The specifics require going into a fairly long explanation and its been years since I kept up with Danmachi but basically Tiona fights to preserve the smiles of her sister, and many others, who were ground down by the absolutely vicious culture of the amazon homelands under the goddess Kali's rule.

>>160427 Are we sure Bell isn’t like, an Actual from Nobilis or something who distorts the very narrative he’s in to be about this static but generic pattern? A very boring Actual for sure.

>>159978 >pics Where i can find maps like this?

>>160296 And they would accomplish this, how?

I recently got 2 Dragons from the "A Song of Ice and Fire" Jump. What am I supposed to do with them in Future Jumps? I feel like they'd be a pain in the ass to feed and keep in check when you're not near them. The sheer existence of them would also mindbreak most grounded settings which I'd like to avoid because it would derail the plot and the people within it like crazy, especially if they're superstitious or Dragons aren't supposed to exist. How would I go about hiding them or keeping them out of sight?

>>160428 Comically, you probably don't even know the half of how what you're saying is so damn true

>>160426 Im stuck on the last mission because I keep fucking around and putting it off

>>159957 Are you Nubee or Gene?

>>160432 Box em

>>160419 Feels like it's connected to the fact that humans in CSM can transcend into trees after living for too long and arriving at an answer, at least ties with the chainsaw thing.

>>160432 When I store pets and monsters I just hit them with Temporal Stasis from Pathfinder and shove them in a Greater Bag of Holding in the warehouse.

>>160437 Don't tell me that Chainsaw Man shares a setting with Fire Punch.

>>160433 I genuinely do not. All I know about Bell is from the jump and what you talk about him. And in the final analysis, after parsing through all your irony and bile: I am still reminded of a soulless automaton removed from the very themes and concepts of a setting, but inexplicably turning into a kind of metanarrative singularity that forces it to conform to it’s own rules against all reason and logic. Except instead of a self-replicating virus or bodyjacking consciousness, it’s just some dumb kid who’s only allowed to be a specific amount of horny, and his designated fanclub.

>>160437 >Jigokuraku is the distant past of CSM …huh.

>>160436 >Box em In what? Adult Dragons in the A Song of Ice and Fire universe are supposed to be hundreds of meter wide.

>>160291 >f The writer is a hack

>>160432 Import them as Pokemon and keep them in their balls when you dont need them.

>>160442 In a pokeball.

>>160442 So? Box em.

>>160445 Pokeballs dont work on non pokemon because every pokemon is actually willingly shrinking to fit in the ball.

>>160334 >so his 'republic' would be closer to if the US only had the executive branch alongside an immortal god-king who told everyone what to do. I mean if the immortal god-king in question is legit interested in ruling and wants whats best for the people that sounds a lot better than a real republic. >>160367 Noblesse? There's a werewolf origin and you can take on of the 200cp vampire perks out of origin to give yourself an inheritable ability to teleport. In fact I'm pretty sure teleportation is specifically brought up as an example in said perk. >>160358 In anime land that's a c-cup. >>160386 They'd be the embodiment of the off-screen Haki and be completely unbeatable so long as no one was around to witness them doing anything. >>160440 nta but the author of the setting has gone on record outright stating that he deliberately nerfs other characters and prevents them from the logical progression that they should have earned in order to keep it so that only Bell can be the hero that everything hinges on because if other heroes could level up the way they should then Bell wouldn't be needed because the other good guy heroes would just handle things themselves.

>>160443 I’m not going to lie: Love or hate the ending, it is awfully derivative of the premises established in Umineko and Higurashi. Except there’s fewer extradimensional refugees this time. >>160448 >nta but the author of the setting has gone on record outright stating that he deliberately nerfs other characters and prevents them from the logical progression that they should have earned in order to keep it so that only Bell can be the hero that everything hinges on because if other heroes could level up the way they should then Bell wouldn't be needed because the other good guy heroes would just handle things themselves. Yep, that’s exactly what an Actual infestation would feel like if the Actual was very boring. And canonically, Actuals CAN be very boring instead of giant swarm-beasts for Nobles to have to drive bcak into the Drowning Deeps.

>>160407 >I dispute this. Motherfucker, there would have been a dozen human empires greater than the Imperium if the Imperium didn't happen to them, because technology would have continued to advance instead of stagnating. The idea that there wouldn't have been any future without the Emperor is just Imperium cope. I dispute this, simply because they wouldn't have been as nearly as large in any way as the Imperium was because they couldn't conquer like the imperium could or even had as much tech as they did >You're just an emperor simp. I'm not but okay, you're just a hater

>>160450 Without having a dog in this fight, it’s worth noting that the League of Votann have over half their military consisting of robots and machines with the power to rip apart planets that have not fallen to Chaos. In fact, they’re so consistently good at dealing with Tyranids (there’s like…one solid recorded victory for the Nids) that they actively hunt Hive Ships for resources. I bring them up because for better or worse, when squats returned they have become the premier example of an abhuman species that has secured (relative) prosperity in the galaxy without any interference from the Emperor or his followers. They don’t even hang up skulls and eagle wings.

>>160447 Just use knockoff pokeballs from another setting. There are plenty of those in the chain.

>>160451 I have to say, the writers really do hate 40k and I at least know why I never hear about these fags. These are just human tau with less reason for being around

What if my cursed technique is just Boosted Gear?

Jumps to become an eldritch shadow monster like pic?

>>160434 Same, the infinite side missions have grabbed my attention and I want to train up my reserve team. Also getting to face boss enemies that aren't status immune with Lilithmon on my team is so fun. Right now I think my main team is Lilithmon, Examon, and Chaosmon. While I scaled wide and rotated a lot, three of the four components there were digimon I'd already trained up quite a bit and so the fusions are pretty good. No idea what I want for my reservists; tons of viable viruses, few ideas on Data. Idly thinking maybe Belphemon Rage Mode or Milleniummon for a physical virus, and Venusmon for a vaccine. I got that buff all stats on heal skill on Venusmon so she would be really good. Stuff like that.

>>160456 Creepy pasta jump to allow you to become a black furry with tentacles and eyes on one side of your head

>>160456 Generic Creepypasta is where I did that, but you can also do so in Kingdom Hearts as a Heartless.

>>160456 Spirits of Creation or Infernals.

Well, my computer just crapped itself and now is running at hilariously slow speeds. Going to have to run some shit as soon as I can while phone posting. Goodnight thread, I hope I can get this working soon.

>>160442 Stick em in a HP magic suitcase.

>>160461 G'night.

>>160461 Get a backup of your files whiles you can

>>160456 Pathfinder. Any of this thread's mainstays would also work. Feito, Exalted, whatever. Do you want a jump where shadow powers play a large lore or you are fine with getting them from anywhere?

>>160454 …not an unfair comparison honestly, I would go so far as to compare the Votann to the Tau but if they actually 100% lived up to all their propaganda between having quality of life technology so advanced they can SIMULATE ALCOHOL DIGITALLY for their Ironkin (read: AIs with robot bodies accepted as equals) citizens, well-preserved ancestral knowledge data banks, cloneskein technology that has resulted in the League reproducing artificially since living memory without a single unintended mutation, superior alloys like transubstanium, and permanent solution to Chaos corruption (dimming their souls using a genetically induced “shroud” that makes them much harder for daemons or other Warp predators to find. The “downside” if you can even call it that is this means they produce fewer, weaker psykers). They don’t even have a funny Warp entity trying to co-opt their entire culture!

>>160465 >Do you want a jump where shadow powers play a large lore or you are fine with getting them from anywhere? Either is fine. Also, what's Feito?

>>160466 You're really explaining why no one ever talks about these fags, these are the gay D&D equivalent to 40k since they're the anti thesis to everything 40k. And I liked the Tau

>>160467 FEITO: GURANDO ORDER Also known as Fate franchise.

>>160469 >FEITO: GURANDO ORDER Excuse, ODAH

>>160439 Perhaps Denji will one day invent the supertech responsible for the powers in Fire Punc.

>>160456 That eldritch monster looks like it kisses boys.

>>160467 Anyway, shadow mages exist in both Pathfinder and DnD, so you can get some stuff over there. Shades is a pretty swell spell. Alan Wake is all about shadow stuff. You can get custom shadow powersets from any of the custom power maker; recently Static Shock had one, there is another in RWBY, JJK has both canonical shadows user and would allow you to makee a custom powah

>>160472 Agreed

Huh, I wonder if theres any chance of there being coma patients in 40k in hospitals or if its standard practice to just turn em into servitors.

>>160475 Noble, sure, commoner, on a rare very well off planet.

>>160473 Theres a set of scissors in 5e you can use to turn peoples shadows into shades. Very useful.

>>160476 Frankly it depends

>>160384 Ehhhhh... >>160390 Huh, neat. >>160395 Yes, but the Garou deserve death. >>160393 >>160402 >>160405 Oh no, I'm perfectly aware that the main draw of dragonriders of pern is, you know, the dragonriders. But Dragonsong was the first pern book I read, so it's kind of special to my heart. If you think you want to make a jump for it, go for it.

>>160455 I think that was technically the concept behind Shrine just being slashes or fire before the space shit.

>>160456 Hollow Knight

>>160395 Is there a gift for Kemonomini shit or various degrees of uggo furry is all that is possible for thesee uggo magic werewoofs

>>160476 I mean I suppose thats fine. Mindless bodies or bodies of those so deep inside their own mind they will never come out both work for my purposes. Well off ones just put me in a better starting point.

>>160479 I love the menolly books, I tried the audiobook but its sooo fucking bad. Narrated by grandma.

>>160476 >a rare very well off planet. Brother even Ultramar, the Jewel of the Imperium, has a life expectancy of only 30 years.

>>160485 There are pleasure worlds and other worlds with similar tech to ours.

>>160485 >Brother even Ultramar, the Jewel of the Imperium, has a life expectancy of only 30 years The fuck? 40k lore is all over the place once again. Dark Heresy had examples of reasonably well-off planets. Fucking up one was an Ascension plot hook, even. There was a bunch in books I don't even really remember now.

>>160397 >where almost EVERY SINGLE xeno ally humanity had betrayed them and tried to wipe them out after the rebellion of the Men of Iron, so Big E just decided to not take any chances again. I dunno man. It seems like the sane decision was to try to secure your independence and security against the dudes who regularly engage in gunboat diplomacy to get 'allies' they can push around at will, have spent the last few thousand years producing horrible WMDs on a cosmic scale while performing horrific experiments on themselves, and are now producing the planet-killing mutants who serve as portals to Hell AFTER almost getting everyone killed by their rogue AIs. Like, from the perspective of most aliens, humanity fucked up just as hard as the Eldar, and no one likes the Eldar either.

>>160486 In the past, sure, but not in the newer lore. Also pleasure worlds don't count since there would be vast armies of slaves and servants tending to the nobles who actually get to live well. >>160487 Modern 40k is really going all in on the GRIMNESS and DARKNESS of the setting.

>>160488 >Like, from the perspective of most aliens, humanity fucked up just as hard as the Eldar, and no one likes the Eldar either. You're not going to have me disagree with you on that anon. I was just explaining the reasoning. >>160489 >In the past, sure, but not in the newer lore. Also pleasure worlds don't count since there would be vast armies of slaves and servants tending to the nobles who actually get to live well. This fugging sucks >>160489 >Modern 40k is really going all in on the GRIMNESS and DARKNESS of the setting. No they're going in on what they THINK is grim dark, and that's only on some areas. Because they can't write and the writers don't even talk to each other. Everything is all over the place