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/hsg/ - Homestuck General: Christian the Disciple Edition Anonymous 07/01/2025 (Tue) 18:40:45 No. 52970
HOMESTUCK THREAD! This is 8chan dot moe, we can have them here, unlike 4chan's /co/, that keeps nuking them, in the longest and most ridiculous secret rule of the site still implemented to this day, legends say it is some Gay Janitor's decade old vendetta. Make sure to read the board rules. Discuss how good homestuck was at its peak, how soulfull Act 5 was back in the day, the absolute embarrassed disaster that is post-canon, how Hussie got groomed by ipgd, how Toby Fox is a total faggot who steals music and how like his music his characters are mostly bad remixes of Homestuck's characters (success =/= deserved), ships, fanfics, etc. The /hsg/ Original Posts were all around a single sentence long, but here we are looking for something else, real and long discussions with arguments plus the shitpost (but not limited to just one or the other) and all the fun 2011-2012 internet shit, hopefully this enough of an effortpost. Feel free to suggest what should be included in the next one. >What about megidochan? Their /hsg/ aren't really about homestuck at all. its just a glorified /b/ that occassionally posts homestuck reaction images. If you want to make those kinds of posts, then by all means go there, but I think recent /hsg/ threads that were on 4/co/ were actually on-topic if only to correctly critcize Hussie and homestuck 2, and there where a fair amount of effort posts in them as well. If nothing else, it can be comfy in an odd way to talk about how badly homestuck went off the rails with peers. <but homosuck is too dead to have a regular general. No shit Sherlock, in case you haven’t noticed, most of what made the Internet fun is gone. Lets just enjoy our dead fandoms while in peace we wait for AI Overlords to take over everything. Nobody expects this thread to be quick. The point is to have a place to discuss homestuck and related content. Also serve as a place for homestuck-related posts that don't deserve their own thread, which would be 90% of them. >Info https://homestuck.net/index.html https://mspaintadventures.fandom.com/wiki/ >Art https://mspabooru.com/ >Music https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/music >Where the hell do I read Homestuck in 2025?? I would like to reread the comic! / Finally get into it after all these years of not checking it. https://homestuck.github.io/ >News 4/13 was 80 days ago. Not much happened Michael Guy Bowman made a new homestuck song : https://bowman.bandcamp.com/track/on-the-thirteenth-day Shipping from the honeynbutter thing starting again (June 21), and will progress in chronological order. (https://www.honeynbutter.com/news/2025/4/6/honey-amp-butter-x-homestuck-sunday-april-13th-2025) The Hiveswap kickstarter started 12 years and 300 days ago Hiveswap Act 1 was launched 7 years and 290 days ago Hiveswap Act 2 was launched 4 years and 220 days ago Worthy of the award for worst Kickstarter of all time, not even Homestuck took that many years to complete. Previous Thread: >>45024
nigger
why is her ass so FAT
Dave and Bro are the best characters
Not off to a good start I see.
I’ll take the honor of making the first non-shitpost of the thread. Many say that Homestuck should have ended with Cascade, understandably so since it was all downhill from there. Given that cascade exists for the primary purpose of setting up Act 6, how would you change it so you could actually end the comic there?
>>53016 john/jade/jack fight lord english. done.
>>53017 >>53017 That would require a bigger asspull to solve the problem. Maybe Andrew could have made a montage of treasure training time, but I honestly don't see it working. A part of me pictures the Beta kids living their "normal" lives via retcon powers and godtier mergering.
>>53017 Wouldn't it be a bit anti-climatic to beat him so shortly after he was introduced? Especially considering they still hadn't beaten Jack up to that point. Though them "kiteing" Jack into fighting Lord English would be clever. >>53018 I think rather than trying to wrap up the story within the Cascade flash, it would be far more achievable to change Act 6 to be shorter and fix everything wrong with it.
>Make OP for new thread >Someone else makes new thread before you Ironic. Do irony hipsters even exist anymore?
Does anyone remember why the mods at halfchan have such a vitriolic hatred for Homestuck that they nuke threads on sight, or has it all been lost to time?
>>53031 Because of off-topic circle-jerking and porn posting, apparently.
>>53032 Bullshit, if that were true there'd be no threads on /co/ at all.
>>53033 It was pretty bad even by /co/ standards. You can still find some of that original clique sperging out in places like the pornthread to this day. But yeah its been far too long since theres been enough energy in that fandom to cause that level of issue now. But if you think the type to become a mod on 4chan is the type to ever let a sleight go or reasses a decision you can't be helped.
>>53035 Emphasis on the word “was”. Most threads over there these days are 90% porn-dumps
>>53030 >Do irony hipsters even exist anymore? Not in any meaningful numbers.
>>53041 >Most threads over there these days are 90% porn-dumps People don't have all that much to say outside of Homestuck 2 and no one wants to talk about that.
>>53053 You don’t understand, I meant most posts on half/co/ in general. As in: threads on ANY topic are predominantly porn dumps.
>>52970 Cute catmom
>>53056 Oh yeah most people post porn in between watching stuff but the ratio has gone completely out of wack.
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If Hussie had learned the term 'stylistic suck' before he learned the term 'irony', I fully believe things would have turned out a lot differently.
>>53018 >>53026 anon asked to end it at cascade. I think that prety much closes the main plots at the time, Jack, LE identity and Jade was still hyped as important/relevant/necessary/strong/sexy
>Someone from 4chan's /hsg/ we had today suggested coming here. >This place seems nice.
>>53067 It's a better site.
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>>53067 checked this place out from the same post. very weird setup compared to the 4chan I'm used to but I like there's consistent discussion. I'll try to lurk a bit to learn the culture too
>>53070 >So will I. >Might post my drawings, if they're welcomed.
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Kanaya's foreign policy confuses and frightens me.
>>53077 Bro, what foreigners are even in their Earth? their kingdoms are equivalent to states.
Was Wizardy Herbert and Complacency of the Learned relevant in any way?
>>53067 >>53070 Everyone who stayed behind on halfchan is doing so because it's all they know and even if they're aware it sucks ass and the culture is dead, they're too scared to try something new. Really, we should do more to bring people over and let cuckchan die, all those anons have to lose is their chains.
>>53089 >There is a thread up right now, and it hasn't been quashed yet. >Hmmm.
>>53091 >fuck I'm starving >every time I approach this green table I get kicked out and spat on >I could go over there to the red table, it's got steaks and nobody's gonna kick me ou- ooh look, a couple crumbs fell off the green table! >well okay the crumbs are smeard with shit but who cares I'm gonna stay at the green table! You know what, I take it back. Maybe they do deserve it.
>>53078 >HS^2 dont they all start trying to kill eachother for trite drama anyways in that
>>53078 >HS^2 dont they all start trying to kill eachother for trite drama anyways in that
>>53088 >Wizardy Herbert No >Complacency of the Learned Kinda? It's drawing a very vague parallel to the trolls while Calmasis is foreshadowing to Caliborn and Calliope
godammit thread didn't update and dialogue box didnt close out so I hit reply twice. put me up against the wall and execute me for spam.
>>53094 >Kanaya is very explicitly a greenblood >artist draws her with red blush One job.
>>53098 >artist Anon...
>>53099 And I had one job too, it seems.
>>53100 I mean, it's pretty obvious that its AI, right? People have developed a feeling for it these days
>The Thread was quashed. >Damn.
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>>53110 I know, right? What took them so long
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>At least I could save this.
>>53112 You're welcome I guess. My doodles used to be a lot better before my PC died
>>53113 >Unfortunate. >I would send some money for a new one, but I'm strapped myself. >Everso. >Its Nepeta Day. Time for a Patriotic Nep.
>>53114 Oh, no worries, I've got a new one but I lost all my old brushes, which caused a long break from drawing which fucked with my abilties
>>53115 >What program do you use?
>>53117 I use paint tool sai 2
>>53119 >Very nice. I used to use a bootleg of the first one. Now I'm up to ClipstudioPaint. >I wish CSP had better binary brushes.
>>53122 I'd try and move over to CSP or Photoshop but that will just set me back again and I don't think I want that
>>53123 >Understandable. What are you working on today?
>>53124 I drew something for an alt account earlier. Tomorrow I wanna finally draw some smut for the /aco/ thread and my socials again. Don't know what yet
>>53126 >Oooh. That sounds like fun. I'm doing some of that too.
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>>53098 You can correct for blush color with the devil's machine if you want to, or just in post. That one was just an old shitpost I had laying around. Forgot it was Nepeta's independence day though so have a hot dog on a hot cat.
>>53074 I'd really like to see them! I'll post mine to when I start drawing again sometime
>>53126 >socials I get that pretty much everyone uses normalfaggot social media now, but I still wince at the term "socials". >>53078 Troll Will Smith confirms that trolls have races similar to humans. Plus there's eastern alternians. Technically, we don't know if they have asian features or merely speak nipponese, since our only example was depicted in an artstyle where you can't really tell, but given the aforementioned Troll Will Smith I think its. Troll races appear to be unrelated to their blood color though. Always weird it dumb how some people wondered if trolls had ears or noses when its revealed within the first few pages they do. The kind of people who try applying hard speculative-evolution to trolls when they were never intended to be.
>>53144 I always wondered why, if their horns are different colors, why aren't their bones or teeth?
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Happy Birthday.
>>53144 >>53154 Again, what foreigners are there going to be there when Earth C is controlled and was colonized by a single government? Trolls having different races has fuck all to do with it. On the speculative biology, it is more interesting than canon, so a decent chunk of people just roll with it.
>>53147 Horns are mostly made of keratin. >Earth C I don't care about beyond Cucked, but any new universes created would have aliens in them, so they would be. >it is more interesting than canon I don't know much about the speculative biology autism the fandom has gotten into, but regarding the common 'design' headcanons for trolls, I'd say they're usually shit. Grub scars? Shit. Cow ears? Shit. Most of them result it immensely unappealing designs, especially when combined together. Meanwhile, the standard troll design, not sure if its still canon since Hussie got some artists that draw the abovementioned shite onboard a while ago is pretty strong, and doesn't need any adjustments. I am aware of the "Trolls are literally insects" headcanon though, and can safely say that its retarded.
Uh. We're looking for the chick with big boobs. Heuheuheuheuh.
>>53144 >but I still wince at the term "socials". I don't think I've used the term like that before either. But its much easier to say than list every website I post on (which is only twitter and bluesky but still)
>>53169 Madame Murel has some big breasts, though its hard to tell because her head is even larger. I wonder how many of you have actually read Problem Sleuth
>>53171 I've never finished it. I don't think it hooks you quite as well as HS
>>53173 >He has never experienced SEPULCHRITUDE I pity you. I finished it 3 days.
>>53175 Maybe I'll pick it up again
>>53176 I'd recommend it. Keep in mind I was staying up roughly until 1 am each night for 3 days though; while it is shorter than Homestuck it still has 1673 pages.
thinking about how NOT rushed the franchise would be if hussie's dad didn't die and that game company didn't run off with half the kickstart money
>>53178 >run off with half the kickstart money Wasn't that just a rumor?
It's raining like hell over here. Knowing she's a bit crazy, a bit insane, would Aradia throw on a swimsuit and go dancing in the rain?
>>53180 Pre-Death? She can't afford a swimsuit so she would do it naked. God-Tier? She would dance in the rain but with her god tier outfit, those people never change out of it
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>>53179 Nobody really knows. There's credible evidence Huss was just an absolutely dogshit boss to work with and strained the relationship until they didn't have many good options, but even if he's as bad as they say it wouldn't excuse squandering all the money on other shit even if he presented no development plan and left them twisting in the wind. Wasn't what they were given the money for, is fraud. Simple as.
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>>53127 Well, I did it
>>53111 >>53112 >>53113 >OC Neato. >>53188 >Beyond Canon OC Disgusting Neato though. >>53183 I guess the question is, do we know they actually spent those funds on King's Quest or did they give them back? I heard Hussie spent the money on Act 7.
>>53189 hussie will say anything to save face
>>53189 >I guess the question is, do we know they actually spent those funds on King's Quest or did they give them back? the game studio barely made any progress on hiveswap while hussie was paying them which counts as stealing the budget to me
>>53192 Wouldn't the claim that he spent kickstarter bucks intended for Hiveswap on an animation for Homestuck actually make him look worse? >>53198 If he actually paying them budget, sure. Was that what actually happened though? Activision would have paid for King's Quest's development, so I can easily see the Odd Gentlemen simply giving Hussie his shekels back and working on King's Quest instead, and Hussie subsequently spending those shekels on the flash animation.
>>53189 >Beyond Canon OC >Disgusting Hey, canonical Meenkat is one of the best parts about hsbc, alright?
>>53207 You could have just drawn regular Karkat.
>>53211 Why? Big buff rebellion Karkat is a good look for him
>>53212 Buffkat was the best thing to come out of HS^2.
>>53212 Still came from BC.
Leijons are good cats, but whose the best cat?
>>53218 Jaspers. Too much troll talk in this thread.
>>53220 He needs a little hat.
>>53220 >Too much troll talk in this thread What else is there to talk about? They have the most sex appeal
>>53227 >What else is there to talk about? Sburb mechanics, The narrative style, Hussie's writing choices both good & bad. Any of the non-troll characters.
>>53228 I like god tier. I think its cool that different characters can have the same associated element (and visual color) while still being very different through their class. It's a really fun system and I love its visuals
>>53229 Its remarkable how Huss was savvy enough to recognize the trolls were a huge draw despite not being big players in his mind initially and make them a bigger focus, but seemed to think there was 0 fan interest worth pursuing in the classpects and Sburb more generally. Despite trying to figure it out being one or Rose's motivations. Hell. Aradia and Sollux reconstructed the program manually and we learn absolutely nothing about it from this. Not even vague shit that never pans out, just nothing period, skipped.
>>53230 I mean, I don't need every single aspect of the game to be explained. Especially Sburb, I'm perfectly fine with what we see. We have enough pieces to be able to know what a "regular" session would look like. But yeah, more things with classpects would have been nice. I think having more active antagonists would have been neat and you could use that to explore certain aspects like Doom more. Plus give Karkat the opportunity to go god tier, c'mon, he's like the main troll
If Sburb Beta has its double square on the top right, Sburb Alpha has its double square on the top left, and Sgrub has its double square on the bottom right, what would have its square on the bottom left? Whatever the Cherubs used, or maybe a Sgrub Alpha?
>>53233 Whatever the ^2 crowd of knockoffs uses when they decide the situation is too fucked to handle and figure that the only way to fix it is to run a proper session of the game instead of the 4 1/2 session rat king abortion that resulted in earth c. With finality terminating all their existences and undoing all Kate fuckery. A man can dream though
>>53227 >They have the most sex appeal Jade's right there.
>>53067 >>53070 >>53074 That was me. Are you guys enjoying your stay here? >>53030 I think it’s kind of funny how you were just minutes away from making your own new thread with your own OP text, only to find out I did it first on the same day that you thought of doing this. We had spent like a whole month and a half with no one making the new thread, everyone still talking in the old one, saying someone should make a new one and shit b ut no one actually committing, while, the rest were just unsure about how 8chan dot moe works, thinking there was a post limit (when there actually wasn’t), and going back and forth on whether it was time to make the new one. And the funniest part is, that same day, there was the update that James "officially" abandoned "Homestuck". Like we even had real news to put in the Opening Post... but I ended up making the thread just hours before that announcement dropped. Just lol.
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>>53235 Despite everything, it's still ==> You
>>53235 Jade is cute, not hot. Especially with Karkat
>>53240 I like the idea of jade being the tallest beta kid
>>53231 I do wonder how aspect powers vary depending on the class. John’s windy powers, for instance. Would a knight of wind have different wind powers or the same powers but just use them differently? >>53236 >the rest were just unsure about how 8chan dot moe works, thinking there was a post limit (when there actually wasn’t) It looks like they saw how the gamergate threads on/v/ worked and assumed everything was like that.
>>53243 I think every aspect user has theoretically every aspect power but its all based on personality. Aradia COULD do all the time fighting stuff that Dave does but its just not her personality to be a fighter so she doesn't do it. Likewise Dave could be a caretaker of the dead but that's not in his character
>100 replies we are so back
>>53244 I don't think that makes sense. Aradia has her clones. If she could bounce around time like Dave, couldn't she flood time with her clones?
>>53236 >This place is strange to me. I never ventured outside of 4chan until the blackout, and even then I went to Megidochan for a few days. >This place is nice.
>>53228 >Sburb mechanics For the most part those have been "solved" haven't they?
>>53250 So have all the trolls.
>>53251 But those are characters, "parts of the lore" have a lower lifespan before people give up and say it just wasn't defined. Shit like what other races played the game is a fun discussion but there is at best 2 candidates/hints.
>>53252 What other races do you think played their version of Sburb?
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>>53236 >That was me. Are you guys enjoying your stay here? it's quite nice here so far, yeah! thanks for the recc. I'm glad there's a place I can still converse with anons about the comic. I've been working on some stuck-sona doodles for fun too I'd be down to share sometime, if this place allows for cringe stuff like that too I never got around to drawing all the characters in my style and headcanons, but I'd like to sometime
>>53253 Squiddles into becoming the horrorterrors is the usual one that I hear and is fun enough, I don't know about this second one they mention though.
>>53252 Carpacians are also characters, as are humans. How about a discussion that involves trolls but is not limited to them: Disregard Beyond Cancer and everything after act 5. Going off of how the kids/trolls/carapacians handle crest a new civilisation in the new universe? >>53253 This is more of a meta question. In other words, it’s “what other kind of ay lmao race would hussie design”. Sburb npcs aside, we only have two examples. One of which isn’t even meant to play sburb. Trolls are based on internet trolls, Cherubs are based on Lord English who is based on Lil’ Cal. Another alien race, that are actually meant to have some significance instead of being background aliens, would probably be based on some other internet/cultural phenomena and/or mspaintadventures in-joke. Maybe an entire species of juggalo horse furries?
>>53256 You have given me the horrible realization that had Hussie managed to remain separate from the fandom instead of subverted and devoured by it, the logical next internet phenom into alien would be tumblrites. I know Beforans were kind of that but cheaped out and lumped into trolls. So like them but worse.
>>53257 > know Beforans were kind of that That’s the other thing, trolls are named after internet trolls, but their personalities aren’t just based on trolls; they’re based on internet autists in general. To be fair though, most characters are to some extent, so theres no reason why uniclowns couldn’t be tumblrites at the same time as Beforans.
>>53256 >Going off of how the kids/trolls/carapacians handle crest a new civilisation in the new universe? Carapacians are followers for the most part, so they would end up as civil servants like they were during the game. The Kids were too lazy to set things up. Personally, I wouldn't give them credit for how the people of Earth 3 became a post-scarcity civilization. Maybe Mayor or PM get the credit for that because of their connection to community prompts, so Carapacians would be the culture the other species would branch off from using the internet for cultural renaissances (resulting on some weird shit that wears the skin of normal culture from around 2012). Trolls are way too bullshit as a race, even when you lowball them. It is a wonder they didn't become the Hegemons with their millennia-long lifespan and psychic powers. >Maybe an entire species of juggalo horse furries? There is a chance the Squids also represented a player race who became the HorrorTerrors but that was a crackpot theory.
Gentlemen... BEHOLD!
>>53256 A friendgroup of mine did brainstorming for a hypothetical sburb session once and someone came up with White Knights as an alien species who would keep butting into the players private pesterchum debates to defend people in like annoying ways. It was a funny concept
>>53261 CORN
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>>53257 Alright then /hsg/, lets design an ay lmao based on tumblr. We'll with a humanoid base. Now reply with your suggestions on what it should look like.
>>53265 I feel like any fan species based on ye olde tumblr has to have a counterpart thats based on ye olde /co/ but that just brings us to cherub territory
>>53262 Thats the type of thing where fans gobble it up trying to figure out what their endgame is and what significance the person theyre defending at a given moment has into endless fan speculation and shipping only for the reveal to be that they don't know themselves either.
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Had one more 'merica left over. Too much crocker biscuit for the tin.
>>53254 Cute fanart. >>53255 I'm only on Act 5, Act 2, but Squiddles have sort of disappeared. This would have been a fun twist. >>53256 I've been wondering how Juggalos got into the mix. I wonder if the Carapacians somehow caused it.
>>53268 I'm curious. How did you make this? My friend sends me AI generated drawings now and then and its made me curious.
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>>53271 I use civitai, a site which hosts a lot of different models (your stablediffusion etc.) The better option would be to run one locally but that takes a more powerful rig than ive got.
>>53274 Hmm. I'm going to try and make a Vriska.
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>>53275 Have fun with it, its a nice toy. There's a couple vriska models for the big 2 checkpoints (pony diffusion and illustrious). I dont care for them overmuch and have considered making my own but they're still fine. Hobbyist quibbles. Don't have many to show since I'm lukewarm on Serket in general but heres her getting her ass slapped.
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>>53276 This wasn't so bad. I still prefer drawing but I can see the appeal. Its like ordering fast food.
>>53280 Looks good! And for sure. Its a different tool at best and an amusing toy at worst. The need for a pretty strong GPU to do the really complex stuff is a high enough wall on its own to stop most people's hysterics.
>>53281 I might use it for poses. I never have a good time thinking them up.
>let’s design an ay lmao based on tumblr. >reply with your suggestions on what it should look like. <no one has made suggestions
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>>53282 I hear some people like it as an easy way to test or sample colors as well. >>53283 8chan is slower. I liked the White Knight idea so some kind of armor motif would be neat, the more impractical and obviously performative the better.
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>>53265 obligatory 3rd eye
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Drawing all sorts of things today.
>>53274 Cute Nepeta. Those should be human hands, though.
>>53276 >>53280 this is incredible stuff, not many people get vriska. >>53289 now draw the sequel in which she sets herself on fire and has to take off her clothes (which she enjoys).
>>53292 Nah, drawing some Helluva Boss stuff for a friend.
>>53294 >Helluva Boss I hope you’re drawing each and every last character in that show getting funnelled feet-first into a wood chipper, alongside every hazbin hotel character.
>>53295 Nah, just some pin-ups and stuff. I like the show. Not always but I like the show. Millie's VA is what I imagine Terezi sounds like.
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>>53296 The world isn't ready for southern belle Terezi, but it would explain her natural draw toward Dave...
>>53297 I go with Southern Terezi because of two reasons: 1. Chick I knew that was kinning Terezi had a deep southern drawl and I associate the two together. 2. Southern Lawyer Terezi. >"Well, y3r' H4RN$H." *Pulls back on suspenders*
>>53298 >H4RN4H*)
>>53283 It's because there are no visuals that have anything to do with tumblr. Like lets say the idea is a whole species of annoying SJW's, what does that idea look like? Blue hair? Pride pins? It's just not something that really makes sense as an alien species. Trolls work because a troll is an actual creature
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>>53298 Oh god youre right. Mental image revised immediately. "W333333333333333LL I M4Y B3 JUST 4 S1MPL3 COUNTRY L3G1SL4C3R4TOR BUT TH4T FR3SH SOUTH3RN 41R M4K3S FOR K33N NOS3S 4ND TH1S WHOL3 C4SE ST1NKS 1 S4Y, ST1NKS!"
>>53269 >Cute fanart. thanks!
>>53254 You've got a good sense of linework. Good stuff
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>>53265 >>53284 >>53288 That's a start. What else?
>>53311 I don't think the white knight thing works? Tumblr isn't really known for white knighting
>>53311 Vitiligo
>>53312 All of social justice bullshit is a white knighting routine. I think there should be something covering or impairing the vision of the normal eyes. They don't need to see reality, just whatever the third eye is telling them.
>>53314 Wouldn't the helmet's visor do that?
>>53316 I like your ai slop and I like roxy but somehow ai roxy doesn't do it for me
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Clown website. The thread is on for 3 days and almost at 500 replies and THAT'S when you delete it??
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>>53319 I thought perhaps they were going to let it slide because it was actually "planned" so wouldn't be a flood. Like we have to fill out a fucking permission slip or something. Anyway, I'll still make a thread for the start of the read-along, though I suppose we can carry it on here (if people are okay with keeping things spoiler-free to where the read-along is.) To anyone who isn't on 4/co/, I had the idea of an organised read-along of all of Homestuck, with people meeting to talk about it up until the point we got to in order to bring in new readers. This is the reading plan: Week 1 (Sat 12th July): ACT 1 and 2 [pg 1 - 758] Week 2 (Sat 19th July): ACT 3 and Intermission [pg 759 - 1357] Week 3 (Sat 26th July): ACT 4 [pg 1358 - 1988] Week 4 (Sat 2nd August): ACT 5.1 [pg 1989 - 2625] Week 5 (Sat 9th August): ACT 5.2 and Cascade [pg 2626 - 4112] Week 6 (Sat 16th August): ACT 6.1 and 6.2 [pg 4113 - 4816] Week 7 (Sat 23rd August): ACT 6.3 and 6.4 [pg 4817 - 5511] Week 8 (Sat 30rd August): ACT 6.5 [pg 5512 - 6242] Week 9 (Sat 6th September): ACT 6.6.1 to ACT 6.6.3 [pg 6234 - 6920] Week 10 (Sat 13th September): ACT 6.6.4 to the END [pg 6921 - 8130] The dates are the start of the parts we'll be reading, so it all starts this Saturday.
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>>53317 Different guy. That may be NovelAi rather than civit but I cant tell for sure. Novel uses its own proprietary fork of SD to my knowledge. Very heavy on that sort of 2.5D anime look much AI is fond of. Which is unavoidable but theres degrees lol. Civit at least you can inject things other than that sort of look if you wanna. More western styled or painted looking
>>53317 Im convinced part of Roxy's appeal is anyone can tell how much of a bombshell she's coded to be but the simplistic HS style and sprites act like lingerie and leave it to your imagination. Like the size of Crocker's knockers.
>>53320 >ACT 1 and 2 >ACT 6.1 and 6.2 Anon... plurals.
That's what I get for just building the list around ten lines of ACT and then putting the information around it.
>>53317 She could probably use some more work, I'm still pretty new to this stuff. Doesn't help that NAI keeps trying to turn any Homestuck character into a troll, so you have to put in a whole bunch of negatives just to stop that from happening.
>>53319 It was to piss us off.
>>53322 Ever since I found one cosplayer on Tumblr I have always imagined Jane as basically her. Fat knockers and equally fat ass.
>>53326 You gotta give up on the novelai fren, its just not built for niche or custom things. Unless they start letting people plug LORAs in. >>53328 Bustygumshoe gets us all in the end
>>53329 Part of it may also be because I'm still using v4 instead of 4.5, which produces results more like this.
>>53330 Its more a problem of how it works at a technical level than the version. On an unrelated note i remain terminally mad we never got an iota of what a Mage does. Every class gets magic bullshit i want to know what the one named after it can do dammit
>>53329 My man you know it. Busty is top tier.
>>53329 >Bustygumshoe Who?
>>53333 https://www.imagefap.com/pictures/11547064/busty-gumshoe A darling of old homestuck tumblr. Chubby chick who was good at looking embarrassed to show the goods but did so anyways.
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>>53334 >fat chick
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Opinion on art that depicts trolls as humans?
>>53336 Its gotta be done well. Black haired Serkets are great, but Blondes? Fantastic.
>>53334 That's the goodstuff.
>>53312 The design is based on suggestions, and somebody suggested “white knight”. Simple as. There should probably also be some suggestions for the coloration of the skin, eyes, hair, other features that haven’t been suggested yet.
Now I want to draw Jane. Thanks guys.
>>53336 That's some good fanart. Too bad most of his other art depicting Homestuck characters is bad. >>53339 >coloration of the skin, eyes, hair Pastel eyes and gold hair, maybe? The Trolls use bright colors.
>>53310 thank you so much. it's a lot of fun I would also like to see stuff other anons have doodled too
>>53311 very nicely drawn >>53313 seconding this but it has an alien skin color like blue (for tumblr) or some shit
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Janey. Janey we can see your-
>>53336 I always liked the idea of some sort of theme for humantrolls. for example >air signs are blonde >water signs have black hair >fire signs are gingers >earth signs are brunettes
>>53345 What makes what an elemental sign?
>>53346 water signs: scorpio (vriska), cancer (karkat) and pisces (feferi) air signs: gemini (sollux), libra (terezi) and aquarius (eridan) fire signs: leo (nepeta), sagittarius (equius) and aries (aradia) earth signs: capricorn (gamzee), taurus (tavros) and virgo (kanaya)
>>53347 >Blonde Terezi. Huh. I don't hate it.
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>>53348 quick doodle for fun. wasn't sure what type of blonde to make her
>>53349 That is a very nice doodle, I like it. I just drew up a pair, Aradia and Vriska, for someone, but I'm a bit unsure of the rules. Lewd stuff needs to be spoiled, ya?
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This is fun.
>>53353 >That is a very nice doodle, I like it. thanks man, it was super fun. might do one more tomorrow >I just drew up a pair, Aradia and Vriska, for someone, but I'm a bit unsure of the rules. Lewd stuff needs to be spoiled, ya? I'm rather new to this site but blue boards operate similarly to 4chan right? I'd just assume it's a sfw board and edit steam or a funny meme over the naughty bits before posting. you can also include an imgur link to the uncensored version in any case anyway
>>53355 cute! really like the way you did her hair
>>53349 >>53355 >>53336 >Homestuck: Beyond... Well, anything weird and it's all normal I guess?
>>53320 you will be hosting this read along here or on 4 /co/ or on another site?
>>53360 I'll be making a thread on 4/co/ for it on Saturday, but it's going to be more of a book club sorta thing than a literal "all on the same page" where we're all doing the same thing. Since this is also for new readers it'd be nice to avoid spoilers, and forcing a general to abide by those rules wont really be fair (unless it has its own thread here?) I'm also considering changing the threashold for various weeks, so that the first week is Acts 1,2, and 3 since it would end in a way that would generate a lot of hype for new readers.
>>53359 homestuck where they're all human and stuck at home because they got grounded for different reasons
>>53362 Story starts on 5942nd of April, 2009. Even time is stuck in an eternal 2009
>>53353 Theres been blatant porn posted before behind spoilers and noone seems to care. Probably so long as it isn't the bulk of the thread or made into a problem there's no issue
Temmie's art style produces some interesting results.
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>>53313 >>53314 >>53341 Thanks for the suggestions. How's this? Anything else to add/adjust?
>>53342 >I would also like to see stuff other anons have doodled too This was in the previous thread.
>>53369 We've accidentally recreated Spiral Knights
>>53370 There's always something weird, but also really wholesome, about troll/human families.
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>>53347 Redradia does have a draw... (The horns stay on, shes built different. Or a furry.)
>>53359 Homestuck, but they scratched all the way around the disc and made the humans into trolls and trolls into humans. >>53369 Looks neat, but I do think the vitiligo is a little too noisy. It doesnt' fit the single colors of the rest of the cast. Also, would't having a gender symbol on each character's chest be limiting? When I think of white knights, I typically think of people who either have no better reason to be there than to express guilt, or a desire to have power over others, or a desire to play people they're defending against people they don't like, or a desire to not see people upset (even if they're hurting themselves), or a desire to sleep with whoever it is they're defending. The White Knights would, as far as my interpretation goes, butt into arguments between the Trolls and Humans because they want to fuck Nepeta or Jane or whoever else. Just imagine that one argument between Karkat, Dave, and John where Karkat tells them not to racemix because he implicitly wants a harem or that other argument where Present Karkat and Future Karkat white knight Jade over their own insane behavior on repeat.
>>53369 I like it. not a fan of the blonde hair though. maybe try a light grey? how about the pink pants of 3 with the hairstyle of 6 with the blue shade of the 2nd head?
>>53361 sweet, I'll be there! I recently have been re-reading homestuck with a friend who's never heard of it before and he's got some funny theories about what's going on
>>53369 I like this guy. Whose the antagonist?
>>53370 Fucking adorable
>>53370 these are amazing. I like the idea of john growing into a chizzled jaw. and their kids look adorable
You're telling me a boy whose primary weapon is a two handed mace isn't going to get buff and toned?
Out of every kind of AU theory for every eventuality ive seen I don't think Ive ever seen one for how things would have gone had Vriska used Aradia to kill Sollux instead of the other way around
>>53357 A Catbox then, ya?
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>>53342 >I would also like to see stuff other anons have doodled too I guess when it comes to doodles instead of fully rendered things I've done a couple of requests in the /co/ threads
>>53413 I remember that thread.It was a fun time. >I want to draw a GHB again.
>>53412 Very nice. Seeing two chars with the same sized tits is almost a novelty. Vriska really thought she'd have the upper hand.
>>53416 I thought of making Aradia a bit bigger, or Vriska a bit bigger, but I thought it'd be funny if they would argue that amongst eachother.
>>53417 Aradia doesn't care in the slightest except that showing off any cleavage results in Vriska buying an even more ill fitting push up bra the next day.
>>53383 well to be fair he doesn't really use it much
>>53419 >Aradia and Vriska having been having a "Whose Bigger" competition since Middle School, both insecure in the fact that they want the other one to fail. >Meanwhile, Sollux and John bump fists, knowing that their girls are both stacked like pancakes.
Thoughts on Big Nep and Smol Karkat?
>>53413 >john, lets fuck >ok... kek, these are all great. I wish the /co/ threads were more allowed
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>>53431 curious. state your case
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hallo
>>53438 That's a very long tail. But very cute
have you guys ever drawn yourself as a homestuck? just me?
>>53439 haha, yea >>53440 >spoiler post em
>>53363 Okay, I made this joke, and now I'm thinking about Mark Fischer shit and now I kinda want to make this into an actual thing. Not a "time loop" but a sort of cultural, technological, time halt, Not sure about the characters* or the story yet, but I can't escape an idea of Windows XP Service Pack 10 style things. *as in, will it basically be a spin-off entirely of Act 1 only, as weird as that sounds.
>>53431 Equius is the only one who has grounds to be considered "big". The rest of the trolls and kids are probably around the same height and weight. I wouldn't mind headcanons if so many of them weren't making the characters fat flabby and otherwise ugly. Those are mostly just bluesky headcanons, sure, but they taint my view of headcanons overall.
>>53431 Newtypehero aint ever coming back and is mildly psychotic as all artists are but their contributions were a great service to the fandom
>The thread was purged once again. What a shame. But I did enjoy some of its topic. >Chaos Cultists. How did it go? >Khorne: Karkat, Aradia, Eridan >Nurgle: Eridan, Equius, Nepeta >Tzeentch: Terezi, Sollux, Vriska >Slaanesh: Kanaya, Feferi, Tavros
>>53455 They're all gonna be pretty shifty but I'd swap Nepeta and Kanaya. Both for Nep being a heinous furry and Kan being ridiculously hard to kill and willing to sit around in bad situations not making a move.
>>53456 A good point. I will allow this switch.
>>53456 Nep also prides herself on being a mighty huntress which is more dedicated than Khorne's indistriminate slaughter, plus she's obsessed with social dynamicsin general and romance in particular.
>>53455 >The thread was purged once again. You don't say?
>>53461 You're right Vaas. Maybe we should try something different, see if we can convince folks to just come over here.
A discord server where the public area is little more than a contact list and everything has to be one-on-one like old IM clients?
>>53463 >discord server No.
>>53455 Why would Aradia be Khorne instead of Tzeentch? Why is Eridan on the list twice? Would Gamzee be Nurgle or Khorne?
>>53464 Didnt someone post a discord link in the last thread?
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>>53455 Could honestly see swapping (Khorne) Eridan and Feferi. She doesn't have much of a character in the story but we do know Eridan did literally everything he did chasing some tail, tail that Fef would not give up unless she actually liked the guy. But she do got the psychokiller Fuchsia genes waiting to bubble up. Do agree on it being a 50/50 on if she'd succumb to hedonism or bloodlust though, so its more about Eridan placement.
>>53471 It was a joke. The invite code spelt out "you're a faggot."
>>53466 >Aradia for Khorne? She's bubbling with unbridled rage to see it all end. >Eridan listed twice. I wrote that after first waking up and lost the plot. It was meant to be Gamzee.
>>53462 why do the 4/co/ threads keep getting deleted anyways?
>>53478 There's lots of theories. At this point it's probably just the monkey-ladder thing, and it's just accepted wisdom to delete Homestuck threads.
>>53479 If I knew how to contact the mods, id ask them why.
>>53480 There's the IRC but they'll probably just laugh at you if you joined to ask them.
>>53480 Why bother? Just bring the party over here, let cuckchan rot away.
>>53481 Maybe just me, but if many joined in and asked, for long enough?
>>53482 I'm liking this place more and more, but I do wish we had a somewhat larger presence. At the very least a /tg/ board.
>>53484 >I'm liking this place more and more, but I do wish we had a somewhat larger presence. Then bring people here, duh. Fun fact, by the way: you can't so much as mention this place on cuckchan because it gets your post tagged as "spam". Even now when we're at arguably our lowest moment they're still fucking terrified of us, they don't want anyone to know about this place. Think about it for a moment. >At the very least a /tg/ board. Boy, do I have good news for you.
>>53485 Ive noticed. That's why I always regard this board as the "Other Chan". They can't use that as a spam filter, that's for sure. If they ever come about to doing that, then we might make an image detailing such. >/tg/ Where?
>>53487 I am blind, pah. Thank you.
>>53488 (Überprüfen sie diese doppels) You might also want to check out the boards list. I guarantee you'll find something you like somewhere, and besides we have a lot of boards that need a little love such as /bane/.
>>53487 there wouldn't happen to be an artwork/critique adjacent board would there?
>>53490 You betcha: >>>/loomis/
>>53491 >almost every board I need and it's more on topic to boot I'm liking this site more and more
>>53489 No wonder I couldn't find /tg/, it was under /gacha/, and I assumed that was a board dedicated to gacha games.
>>53438 this is adorable, your style is really cute
>>53438 Thank you for drawing this for me.
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>>53447 See pic related. >>53437 I like Nepeta and Karkat. I think they're cute together. But I also like the potential of "Karkat remains a manlet" and "Nepeta, the smallest of them all, has a growth spurt and begins huge." Tangentally related to >>53451 but I also like Newtype's depiction of "Big Nepeta/Small Karkat" because, God damn, that stuff is just the butter on the toast. I also had one hell of a RP ages and ages ago that had an Older, Bigger Nepeta and Smaller Karkat in a snowstorm that never left my mind.
>>53492 Look long enough and that "almost" might end up not applying anymore.
I wish I could have been on 4chan when this banger of a scene dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYBzZj7Bddk
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>>53447 I don't really like that Equius is always portrayed as this hulking beast of a man because he's still 13. Personally I really like the way he's portrayed in this one paradox space comic because he actually looks like a 13 year old
>>53499 God hes such a dork, I fucking love John.
So, I am unsure of how this type of Chan works compared to 4. Does the thread have a bump limit?
>>53502 Check out this post from the last thread >>53012, they explained it
>>53503 Perfect. Thank you.
Speaking about threads and that, should I make a new thread here for the read along, or should we stick to the general? Obviously sticking to the general would stop there being multiple HS threads in the catalog, but it would also mean new readers might (actually, will) come across spoilers. Are the mods here cool enough to separate a general thread and a themed thread?
>>53505 They're threads for different things, so I'd say go ahead.
>>53505 Could always use the Read Along as the General. List it as Read Along Part II if you're going back to 4chan.
>>53507 >if you're going back to 4chan But why would he want to?
>>53508 Its hard to leave home sometimes.
>>53509 You gotta leave the abusive home someday, or you'll never get better.
>>53479 LAME
Now that we've got some suggestions for 40K out of the way, lets go Battletech. >House Steiner: Vriska, Terezi >House Kurita: Aradia, Sollux, >House Davion: Karkat >House Liao: Eridan >House Marik: lolno one >Concordate: Tavros(Duh) >Magistracy of Canopus: Nepeta(Duh), Feferi, >Marians: Equius, Gamzee
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>>53501 > I fucking love John. Me too, man. The thing is I've loved Con Air for ages. so when I read the comic and this kept coming up it was the best thing ever. Like when fat bitches see a weight slider in a game and feel "valid and seen." I was the fat bitch!
>>53516 Hell yeah my guy, hell yeah. I still got it on VHS somewhere.
>>53517 I had it on tape, since I recorded it off the telly. On, either BBC2 or ITV they did this summer blockbuster season where every week they showed an action movie. Another one was Hard Rain but I can't really say I cared about that and taped over it with Die Hard With A Vengeance a few weeks later. Those tapes just went somewhere as the years went by, as these things often do. Nice that you still have it. Do you still have a VHS player?
>>53518 Recording off the TV, man those were the days. We recorded all sorts of things, from Teen Witch to Star Bear. Yeah, I do, but the damn thing is broken. Its helical scan head hasn't spun in close to twenty years.
>Drawing an OC that came to me in a dream. >Realize that she is, for all intents and purposes, Terezi but human. Huh.
>>53520 >Yeah, I do, but the damn thing is broken. Its helical scan head hasn't spun in close to twenty years. Damn that sucks. >Recording off the TV, man those were the days. Yeah. I also had a bunch of pirated movies as well, since my dad knew a guy who did them. I have a weirdly strong foundational memory of the opening of Land Before Time, where the newt thing is swimming around with the bubbles, and a really aggressive tracking, since (as you probably know, but for the youngsters listening to the old folks tell tales) you'd be recording the tracking that the original playback is doing, and any more over the top of that. What was the last VHS you got? For me it was Fellowship of the Ring.
>>53523 We knew a guy too. For $10 he could get us any movie that just came out. How he did it was he'd get into a movie theater pretending to be a fat ass, but inside the fat suit was a camcorder. Good times indeed. For me, some of my foundational VHS memories was the 7th Voyage of Sinbad's opening along with the beginning part of the 1953 War of the Worlds. Fantastic movies. >Last VHS ya got? The last three were, in order: >Fellowship of the Ring on two tapes >Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone >Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The Clone Wars one is special: It came with a sort of recap by C3PO and R2D2 detailing the events of Episodes IV-VI. It was neat.
Imagine... Big cat girls...
>>53496 >But I also like the potential of "Karkat remains a manlet" and "Nepeta, the smallest of them all, has a growth spurt and begins huge." solid case. I kinda like the idea now- especially since nepeta is a natural and strong hunter. also this anon's art >>53438 helps
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>>53527 His rendition is most excellent, but I also enjoy larger size differences. Half a head to a full head or so. Granted this is a rather extreme example but I do like it regardless.
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>>53526 Be careful how big you imagine such things.There's some real freaks out there.
>>53535 >CG: NEPETA WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU A GIANT. >AC: :33 < magic. >CG: GET THE FUCK BACK TO NORMAL. >AC: :33 < nyo.
>>53376 >>53376 >>53378 >I do think the vitiligo is a little too noisy. I tried simplifying it. >would't having a gender symbol on each character's chest be limiting? It occured to me that the gender symbols originate from the greek planetary symbols. See pic 2. >not a fan of the blonde hair though. maybe try a light grey? >how about the pink pants of 3 with the hairstyle of 6 with the blue shade of the 2nd head? Done Also came up with some DEEPEST LORE. The planet white knights are from is stuck in a late medieval stage of technology & society. This is because most of the "triclops" name pending emit counter-electrical signals that disrupt electronics, thus making it impossible for them to be developed in the first place. This is a defense mechanism that exists to counter their natural predator: The Platypus platypuses are giant monsters on this planet. The black wizards lack this defense mechanism, which made them a target for platypuses. This pressured them into developing advanced technology to defend themselves, resulting in them making electronics and eventually wacky sci-fi technology. Black Wizards view technology as magic, but not in the sense they don't understand what they're doing. They understand how thermodynamics works for example, but view it as a magic system. Basically they just do science and engineering but use magic words to describe it. Black wizards were already disliked for attracting Platypuses, and are now envied for their prosperity. Naturally they dislike the normals in return. They would be the "imageboard user" stand in. The White Knights have a typical medieval society, if that society was tumblr. Those deemed to be the most "oppressed" are . Males are subservient to females & gays as penance for patriarchy. The most decorated white knights are given the chance to mate except this is a lie told to keep them in line, as in reality the white knight race is perpetuated by a single alpha male. I haven't thought of any reproductive or romance weirdness except for them being like orangutans, because of the whole "beta white knight" thing. This would only apply to the white knights though. I was thinking there would be a different race per planetary sign, like a fantasy rpg.
>>53544 I vote for the moon to be a wizard of some sort
>>53485 I tried hiding links in images, but OP was more affective by posting “8 - chan dot moe”. I wonder if he got banned for that.
>>53441 >post em ok but warning it might be too cringe for human eyes: it's sketches of me as a troll and my husbando I've doodled my friends as homestucks too but those are in physical sketchbooks somewhere
>>53446 not too sure what you mean but I fully support wherever you're going with this
>>53547 Oh, this warms my heart to see it.
>>53547 These are wonderful anon
>>53547 Adorable.
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>>53534 newtypehero's definitely one of my inspirations. as you said, some of his stuff is a little more than my usual liking but most are just wonderful
>>53559 Sweet Jesus.
>>53544 The gray on their hair is too light, and the neck guard looks too much like a second mouth. Other than that, I think it's all right. I think making each symbol a different race (as in, species) leans too hard against the idea of Sburb. It'd be interesting, however, if each symbol was a different class as in fantasy RPGs. Additionally, I think the "imageboard user" stereotype was already used with the Cherubs and Homosuck, but the archetype of a politically and socially incorrect guy who tries too hard to signal these things to the point that he ends up as no better than a White Knight who likewise simps for a handful of, many times only nominally, politically and culturally incorrect women is real. As for inspiration for Triclopses, do you think the characters should be inspired by all associations with their symbols or planets or just those from the Classical period? >It occured to me that the gender symbols originate from the greek planetary symbols. See pic 2. It'd be funny if a non-White Knight mentioned that the symbols on their chests aren't historically accurate, given how the symbols on Wikipedia are just the modern versions of the original symbols, which are explained in the rest of the article. >Platypuses I like this idea. It fits the humor of Homestuck. >Orangutan Mating I like this idea too. I'd look at Orang Utan Republik for more information. The page on relationships and mating strategies should be of special interest. >>53559 I thought the tail was Nepeta's ass at first.
>>53549 >>53550 >>53558 I'll admit I was a little nervous to show it but that means a lot! I had a lot of fun daydreaming if it's ok with the threads, should I doodle more of these sometime, would you guys like to see them too? of course, I'll be doodling regular stuff like canon characters too like the human terezi doodle
>>53565 Feel free. We need more whimsical goofy bullshit and less irony and fretting over being "le cringe"
>>53559 >Karkat in puberty: Grows one inch taller. >Nepeta in puberty: Grows right inches and three cupsize bigger.
>>53544 >DEEPEST LORE very creative lore dump >no pluto free our boy pluto
>>53376 >Homestuck, but they scratched all the way around the disc and made the humans into trolls and trolls into humans. kino
>>53570 The classical Greeks didn't know about Pluto.
>>53564 >The gray on their hair is too light, and the neck guard looks too much like a second mouth. How's this? >a different race (as in, species) I was more thinking "subspecies". At the very least within the same genus. > I think the "imageboard user" stereotype was already used with the Cherubs and Homosuck So was tumblr with the before trolls. White Knights overlap with tumblr. The association just came naturally because of the 30-year old wizard meme, along with them being the tech users of the planet. Speaking of which, I imagine the kids of this session would get their computers from the wizards, who have created insulated devices they can use without disrupting it. It would be a forbidden-friendship kind of deal. >if each symbol was a different class as in fantasy RPGs I figured each race would all be the same class, e.g. White Knights & Black Wizards. >do you think the characters should be inspired by all associations with their symbols or planets or just those from the Classical period? Not sure. What version of the Zodiac did Hussie use? >the symbols on their chests aren't historically accurate We could use the classical version, but then the Venus symbol wouldn't be as obvious. >>53545 Witches? Or "clerics" maybe if we're going with the rpg classes? I figure they'd be the female counterparts to wizards, so they'd also be able to use electronics.
It's funny going back in the booru and seeing how normal a lot of the shipping art is, before all the weird "they're a gay hetero couple" weirdness started. It really was a different time...
>>53577 People still draw cute non-degenerate art of ships, though? Just not in this artstyle since its not 2012 anymore
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the idea that she saw him goof about with his sickles sparking her interest in him wouldn't leave my head
>>53579 Oh that's incredibly cute. I miss peanutstuck
>>53578 Not as often.
>>53576 >What version of the Zodiac did Hussie use? The traditional Western Zodiac. If we're using that, we'll have to add Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Earth would be a tossup. However, I think it may be better to only make the classical symbols for now because of an interesting feature of them in astrology called "essential dignity". In astrology, essential dignity is a concept where the location of a planet in a given sign is relational to its effects. From this, we can draw relationships between the characters. The biggest detriment right now is that Sburb games need an even number of players. We're at 7. Including Earth would bring us to 8. Including Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto would bring us to 10. >how's this A little lighter would work. Right now, it contrasts too hard with the skin and eyes. >subspecies I see. That makes more sense. It's like the fish Trolls. >Moon Moon is cute. Are her shoes supposed to be the vertical crescent moon seen on Greek gods? >who have created insulated devices they can use without disrupting it. So the kids are using their computers in Faraday Cages? >so was tumblr with the trolls Understandable. I imagine each of the symbols will be a different kind of person who fits the definition of a white knight, despite Venus being the only one who's the one most clearly white knighting. When it comes to the Triclopses, right now we have >White or Orange Witch(?) Female = Moon >White Knight Male = Venus >Black Wizard Male = Mars From what I've read, I think Saturn should definitely be a Rogue, the Sun could be a Barbarian, Jupiter could be a Bard, and Mercury could be a Ranger or a Monk. >>53579 Cute image.
>>53582 I mean, yeah, cause homestuck isn't as popular anymore. I don't think you should compare the cherrypicked findings on the booru with what you see on your twitter timeline
>>53584 I think it's not so much the size of the fandom as just the kinds of people that occupy it. The fandom of the 10s, as full of art hoes and other Harry Potter/Twilight adjacent teens as it was, is very different to the freaks that form the majority of it now. It could have been the same quantity then and now, and the dominant art style would still be different. God, I can't believe things are so bad now that I'm defending Twilight.
>>53577 >>53584 >>53586 johnvris was fun. almost makes me want to re-read it again
Alright guys, it's up. Here: >>53588 There: https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/149365450
>>53590 >Cuckchan link
>>53594 Everyone's a critic...
>>53590 >404 it's joever
>>53579 This is adorable. Hmmm. Would Marcy be a good voice for Nepeta?
>>53599 I made another thread and that got deleted too. Plus I was banned for breaking the rule that threads must be about comics or cartoons of Western origin. Oh well. Maybe this is going to be a bit of a wash out?
>>53579 Unmitigated Kino
>>53605 It won't.
You guys ever interact with cosplayers? One came into the shop that I haven't seen in years and reminded me of how we met.
>>53615 I went to a few recent cons in homestuck cosplay and met a few others, too
>>53617 There's a Vriska cosplayer In on own that came into the shop today. A real sweetheart.
>>53600 gave it some thought. the old cartoon version doesn't have the fitting cadence, and maybe slightly higher pitch than what i'm thinking about. the 2014 cartoon marcie is a tad nasally. the movie marcie might fit? if adjusted for nep's speaking cadence. or movie peppermint patty (but that's just because i'm a sucker for her) >>53615 man, i wish. the last con i went to was years ago but didn't have homestuck cosplayers >>53618 sounds nice anon
>>53618 Maybe someday...
>purrlease take my question seriously! cats just don't give a shit sometimes and it's funny
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>>53635 Karkat later that day
>>53584 >vriska taller than john >fangs so sharp they nip him when they kiss I kinda dig this
>>53635 Adorable. You've got great expressions man.
The 4chan thread is a lot more interesting than I thought it would be.
>>53644 How long until it gets deleted
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dicking around with various stylers. its always tough to find something between 'completely flat colors blob' and 'toy story 3D shiny plastic nightmare.' the other one Ive been using is great but its fun to see what comes out better with other styles. more cheesecake than nsfw but spoilered anyway.
>>53646 >more cheesecake than NSFW Anon, come on.
>>53644 The Ur-Homestuck idea sounds real, but there's no source provided.
>>53652 I think it's more a hypothetical. Of course there wont be any proof that Hussie lost his fucking mind, but there's a point, and I think everyone admits this, where Homestuck "becomes" Homestuck, whatever that means to whoever is talking at the time.
>>53646 Do an Aranea
>>53653 Thats around the middle of Act 5 for me.
>>53644 I think this place is a lot more chill than 4chan so I'll just say it here. I really don't understand the issue people have with the dancestors. They're on like four pages that are big exciting playable games, they give us a look into a whole new world and also... they don't matter. So what if you think Rufioh isn't interesting? He'll never speak again afterwards. And then people bring up "oh, Hussie only made them to sell t-shirts" the only one of the dancestors that wears a classic zodiac-shirt is Meenah (because she's the first one introduced, so she follows the fashion of the classic trolls so we immediately get the player vibe). And like, of course there are 12 other playable trolls. The moment Doc Scratch talks about Beforus in Act 5 we know they exist. We know they exist before we know the Alpha Kids exist. You can dislike the dancestors but genuinly hating them to a level where you sperg out in every /co/ thread? They don't have enough screen time to be that hatable. Just admit you have adhd brain and can't spend 15 minutes getting to know a character
>>53657 >I really don't understand the issue people have with the dancestors. Anything that advances or layers Homestuck's creativity is an affront to the savages.
>>53646 have you tried generating them as chibis?
>>53653 Homestuck became Homestuck at Act 1 for me.
>>53661 Shut up and let him destroy the thing you value, anon!
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>>53660 Can do, the big nep/karkat earlier was basically chibi if not for the big fat cat tats. Can be anywhere from just cutesy looking to full on animal crossing doll mode, depends what you want. >>53655 Easy quick example. Cutesy but not fully doll-like.Shame Serket loras are pretty much all mid at best.
>>53663 There isn't even an Aranea one that is, what I would call, decent. I've tried using a Vriska one with short hair and it just looks odd. Thank you regardless. she's cute.
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>>53254 >>53249 I am deeply happy that you two are enjoying your stay here. I want to make it very clear: NOW YOUR SOUL BELONGS HERE, THIS IS YOUR NEW PLACE!! The contracts have been signed. You will now be here forever, part of the new community being born on 8 chan dot moe. YOU WILL ALWAYS RETURN HERE FROM NOW ON. YOU WILL SEE. >>53247 >We're at 346 replies now Okay, I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but that’s very fast for how this board usually moves, lol. It took the first Homestuck General 65 days to pass 500 posts. Here, we’ve almost hit 400 in just 12 days. >>53662 >>53658 >>53662 BTW you Verb guy. I wanted to ask you this while I was considering whether or not to comment on something. Did you know about this place beforehand, or did you discover it just since the "Homestuck Read-Along" thing started?
>>53658 Hussie spent too much time on them. The time and energy he spent on one bound could have been spent on progressing the plot. Meenah and Aranea are the only ones who needed fleshing out since they were the only ones who contributed to the plot. >>53657 I never got why the openbound troll sprites were drawn without noses when trolls were well-established as having noses prior and after it.
>>53663 cute chibi aranea requesting chibi dolorosa
>>53667 >I never got why the openbound troll sprites were drawn without noses when trolls were well-established as having noses prior and after it. It's just an artstyle thing
>>53587 Thinking about it the only ships I like, or care about in any way, happen to be the ones that had some basis in the comic. John x Vriska Dave x Terezi Dave x Jade Karkat x Terezi. However, I don’t care for other ships that were “canon”. I guess it has something to do with most of the aforementioned ships occurring with act 1 - 5, or at least having some seedlings of them. People are too harsh on act 6 I think. While it certainly did get bad, it was a somewhat slow decline rather than being instantly worthless. Still, most of the relationships shown throughout act 6 are unappealing to me.
When drawing Jane, should she be just curvy or a bit chubby too?
>>53676 400 pounds, black with vitiligo, arm hair, leg hair, facial hair, and balding That, or anorexic.
>>53677 Ah yes, the Tumblr Special.
kanaya is so lucky...
>>53657 >I really don't understand the issue people have with the dancestors. They are fine but people wanted and expected a lot more from them.
>>53669 mind if i give it a shot
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>>53664 yeah its a real shame. Id have made my own Serket one by now if I liked the character more. Almost did for Nepeta but someone did come out with one I like. >>53669 Tricky tricky. Weird outfit to describe. And I'm never sure whether to do actual eyes or not on Rosa but here's a shot.
I thought of making my own LORA, but my machine, its ancient. Its not worth it. Thus, I draw.
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Jane dear.
>>53697 Did you make this? It turned out great.
>>53697 Cute
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>>53697 keep up the good work anon
>>53666 I've known about 8chan since the Gamergate days but never used it and don't plan to use it now that it's a honeypot like 4chan. Hopefully anons eventually just migrate to ZZZ or whatever.
>>53702 I'm asking about this specific version, Retard. Which is kind of recent, there have been multiple 8chans hosted by different people. In fact right now there is another one with a smaller userbase called 8kun.
>>53703 My balding faggot father knows what 8kun is, you dumbass.
>>53685 nice
>>53704 And you still haven't answered the question, but that kind of already confirms that you don't even know what's going on. Look, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but...the whole idea of a "Let’s Read This" thread involves actually reading the comic and commenting on the pages or segments as you go, adding your own commentary, kind of like a Let’s Play that you "host" except with the added bonus of inviting people to read along and share their own thoughts or reactions to yours. That’s the whole point of the activity. Not just starting a thread, posting something like "wow I’m on page 82!" and calling it a day. The first versions of the thread (versions of the thread that you didn't make, I am aware) didn’t include any kind of commentary or analysis from the OP. IIRC, it was just someone pretending this was totally /co/ activity while the thread quickly devolved into some Homestuck shitposting. Which, honestly, just plays into the perception that 4chan Jannies have of us, that it's impossible to make an actual Homestuck thread without it turning into /Homestuck General/ of the week. The reason I bring this up is because, before the original anon (whoever it was) started the whole "Homestuck Read-Along" thing, we actually had several solid Homestuck threads — with real discussions, story analysis, good shit. Then this guy came along, clearly unaware those previous threads even happened, and did the "Read-Along" thread just because there hadn’t been a Homestuck thread in two days. And as a result, the first few attempts kind of sucked. Now, by pure luck, your thread Verb,turned out much better than the previous ones. You actually got some anons to take the bait and start reading the comic, which was great. I don’t know if it was you who posted that analysis of the page 82 title, but it was solid. Then there was that other anon reading it for the first time who was complaining about how bored he was and ended up saying something about Umineko, that felt GENUINE, which is good. I’m not trying to discourage you, or do a "I only want threads with X level of multi-paragraph effortposts" post policing. That’s not what I’m trying at least. I’m all saying this because the first few of these threads were honestly not very good, and the Homestuck threads that came before this "Read-Along" thing were much better. But, by chance, yours was a big improvement (even though, you didn’t do anything that different from the others OPs), and I think it would be a shame to lose that momentum. When you make effortposts, it encourages other people to do the same and actually participate. And I'm telling you all this because I hope you notice the circumstances in which you are. You can achieve something really good if you get involved in what you are doing here. TLDR; Do that Cytube stream shit or I would made fun of you forever because you gave your money to 4chan to become a premium user and thus prevent them from deleting your thread, LOL
>>53708 Okay! Tell me how to set up a Cytube stream.
>>53657 people had an issue with the dancestors? I really liked them. they were a very colorful crew to play around with and give more homages to their zodiac without completely taking over the plot. their stay was quite short, it's not like they were super intensive to the writing if you didn't like them
>>53720 They were built up as having potentially huge roles but in the end the only relevant ones were Meenah and Aranea. Aranea actually made something happen, and Meenah just sort of meandered around. The rest? Just fluff, and not even filled out fluff.
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>>53583 >From what I've read, I think Saturn should definitely be a Rogue, the Sun could be a Barbarian, Jupiter could be a Bard, and Mercury could be a Ranger or a Monk. Concepts.
>>53698 I did! >>53700 Thank you. :>
>>53701 Oh thats adorable. Wish I knew how to animate her hand.
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>>53666 >NOW YOUR SOUL BELONGS HERE, THIS IS YOUR NEW PLACE!! The contracts have been signed oh no, I'm falling down another rabbit hole again it keeps happening
>>53735 I told you about Homestuck. I warned you bro.
>>53735 You can't fight the Homestuck.
>>53732 Just draw 2 more frames of her hand in a higher and lower spot and add half life item clipping sfx. Ezpz
>>53739 Oh I know how, I just don't have an animation program.
Vriska. Should she have curves?
>>53708 > I don’t know if it was you who posted that analysis of the page 82 title, but it was solid. That was me, and not the guy you're replying to. That's also what kickstarted the ur Homestuck talk which was super fun to talk about because it feels like a new approach to the comic, rather than just complaining that it fell off at a certain point. Asking if Homestuck became something different in the telling, and at what point did that happen? (it seemed pretty agreed to be that the first three acts were planned for a very different story) I don't expect anything to happen from it, but the idea of sort of conducting archaeology on the first three acts of Homestuck and trying to reconstruct a possible future with that plan Hussie might have had in mind. Another thing that came to mind from that little bit of text under the title card is a sort of immanence. I Think that's why it reminded me of Pantheon, and how it starts with that feeling of "the world has changed..." far more explicitly. >>53748 No. Sticc.
>>53749 Terezi have good hips?
>>53749 (me again) Weirdly enough I think the part of Homestuck that most matches that title page is the epilogues. HS-82: >The streets are empty. Wind skims the voids keeping neighbors apart, as if grazing the hollow of a cut reed, or say, a plundered mailbox. A familiar note is produced. It's the one Desolation plays to keep its instrument in tune. >It is your thirteenth birthday, and as with all twelve preceding it, something feels missing from your life. The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. His coarse schemes are those less of a prankster than a common pickpocket. His riddle is Absence itself. It is a mystery dispersing altogether, like the moon's faint reflection, with even one pebble of inquiry dropped in its black well. It is the most diabolical riddle of all. >"Absence diminishes little passions and increases great ones, as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire." -Walt Whitman >Yes, you are certain Walt Whitman said that. One hundred percent positive. >You have a feeling it's going to be a long day. From Candy-36: >A few hours of aimless wandering through the sky brought him back here, to his old house. He hasn’t lived here in years, but it feels exactly as it had when he last left it. It’s like no time has passed at all. John leans back in his dad’s desk chair, stares at the ceiling and listens to the war. >The steady drone of weaponized airships up above has become so commonplace in everyday life that he barely even notices it anymore. But now he focuses, trying to pick out the individual sounds. No matter how hard he tries, he can’t tell which ship belongs to which side, or how many there are. He doesn’t know whether they’re coming or going. Rose, Kanaya, and their daughter are probably up there somewhere by now. >The washing machine chugs along in the next room. In John’s experience, troll blood is incredibly difficult to wash out of clothes. His t-shirt is probably going to be Vriska-colored for the rest of its life. >Somehow, no matter what, he always seems to end up back in this house. It’s been through the Medium and two different universes, and come out of it with only a slight warping to the foundations. Everything is coated in dust. He hasn’t bothered to turn any lights on, or change any of the bulbs that have burned out over the past few years. He thought he heard someone moving around upstairs a while ago, but he didn’t get up to check. He hasn’t gotten up for... how long has passed? He has no idea. Obviously the text from Homestuck itself is lighter and a bit funnier, but I think they're both playing the same notes on different instruments, if that makes sense.
>>53748 Yes, “sticc” is a forced meme made by the same newfags who draw everyone with afros and vitiligo. <but she’s a flat in the comic You mean, like all the female beta trolls? <b-but beyond canon Is bad fanfic. Also their motive for making her flat is that they retconned her into a “her”.
>>53754 > “sticc” is a forced meme made by the same newfags who draw everyone with afros and vitiligo. way I understood it hussie originally had all the characters to have relatively normal builds but then fans kept bombing him with "is feferi fat?" "is vriska fat?" questions till he finally said yes and memed on it
>>53749 >that analysis of the page 82 title Screencap? >it seemed pretty agreed to be that the first three acts were planned for a very different story Do you think the trolls were part of that original story plan? >>53757 Pretty much, yeah.
>>53748 Yes, but small ones.
Nothing will stop me from drawing Titska
There is a thread up, and its Nepeta themed.
>>53763 Yes, you’re posting in it right now.
>>53757 Id imagine any non porn addict comic writer doesn't really think about bodytypes very often if theyre doing any kind of style that can avoid it, like say pixel sprites. Or writing a story unconcerned with something that mundane. Nothing wrong with speculation on what a character's lifestyle might have them looking like from fans who've got a lot more time for that. Porn is porn though. Anyone pretending like they can have 'canon' porn if they screech enough about 'canon' bodytypes (which are armless sprites btw) just seems like weird cope at best and delusional powertripping at worst. May as well do whatever with it.
>>53767 There is a fine line with depicting how someone in a given work ought to look like, and then exaggerating them for pornographic effect. Memes can invoke certain images in people's minds about how a specific character ought to look like, such as "Big Butt Pyrope" or "Sticc Vriska" and the like.
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That being said, Vriska Titty
>>53727 These look cool! Aesthetically, I like the top row more than the bottom row, and I especially like Saturn (female). However, I'm partial to Saturn (male) because he looks like an edgy John. Keeping essential dignity in mind, I'm torn between the two rows because I assume Venus would be the equivalent to John, so his relationships and how they fit into the setting would be paramount for the theoretical quest associated with the Triclopses. For instance, Venus's Exaltation is Jupiter's Nocturnal Domicile, but Jupiter's Exaltation is the Moon's Domicile, and the Moon and Saturn's Exaltations are Venus's Nocturnal and Diurnal Domiciles, respectively, while Mars's Exaltation is Saturn's Nocturnal Domicile, and the only time Saturn's Diurnal Domicile comes up is in reference to the Sun, which Saturn is Diurnally in total opposition against, and the Sun's Exaltation is Mars's Diurnal Domicile, and Venus and Mars have opposing Detriments and Domiciles both Nocturnally and Diurnally, and the Moon's Fall and Exaltation are Mars's Nocturnal Domicile and Detriment, respectively, and the same goes for the Sun in reference to Venus's Diurnal Domicile and Detriment.
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My tastes change depending on the day but I frequently come back to Feferi as what I heard called Mermaid Mode, drastically bottom heavy but mostly in the hips/thighs not specifically the ass.
>>53727 Oh yeah, these are some cool dudes.
>>53741 Draw two of the frames, save each as png and use ezgif. If not that, Krita's free though I haven't messed around with its animation process.
>>53758 >Screencap? It wasn't that long. Just: >I don't want to get all "youtube video essay" but I think it's interesting that Hussie wrote that page, and had this idea in the year before Arcade Fire's The Suburbs released. I don't think he was making some point about the distance between people in an increasingly digital age, and all that stuff, at least not consciously, but it was there a bit I think when he designed each of the four kid's living arrangements. It could probably be a bit more fleshed out. >Do you think the trolls were part of that original story plan? They weren't in the first pesterchum client under contacts, so if they were thought up early I'm not sure if they were aliens, or if there was even twelve of them? I guess we'll never know for sure, but when I get back to reading it I'll keep an eye out for it.
I like to imagine terezi is thin and perky like her horns. and vriska is tall and lanky like her horns
>>53781 Terezi is described as having sharp features in the epilogue
>>53782 Imagine being John in the epilogue and having her bony ass and thighs bouncing on you.
>>53782 fuck yeah just how I always pictured
>>53781 By that metric we have Tavros as The Fattest Fuck and Aradia as so many curves they're falling over themself. And also there'd be two Sol- shit you're on to something
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>>53787 >karkat's facial features are round and his growth somewhat stunted like his horns >aradia is shaply and curvy like her horns >tavros might've grown up to be very sturdy and broad like his horns (fitting as a bull themed page player) had he not been crippled in both body and potential >sollux...well you got the idea before I did >nepeta is short with a roundish face like her horns but an athletic body from hunting. quite cat-like >kanaya has a tall, subtle and elegant body like her horns >terezi is pointy and perky and of average height like her horns >vriska is tall and lanky like her horns >equius is robust but also full of sparring scars like his horns >gamee is tall as fuck and gangly like his horns >eridan would've grown up to be angular and chizzled like his horns (his dancestor has a chin dimple which supports this case) >feferi is a swimmer who and is slightly taut and slim like her horns >their ancestors and dancestors share similar looks to them but not necessarily exact thoughts?
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>>53789 Kan's simple and graceful but for that one part that juts out and down on one side... Lowbro jokes aside yeah mostly tracks. I do think Equius isnt meant to be as muscular as his freak strength implies though, always got the impression its supposed to be largely supernatural
>>53789 That's a pretty good theory, and it would make for some good foreshadowing. I might take this up and draw it out.
>>53790 Can you do a femkat
>>53790 >but for that one part that juts out anon noo! >I do think Equius isnt meant to be as muscular as his freak strength implies though in my mind he's not bara levels of built. at least not until he grows up if anything. but that he's more built than the average peer his age I would say >always got the impression its supposed to be largely supernatural been a while since I read but I figured it was the combination of sparring + genetics + the absolute insane mega steroid powerup drinking the milk from his butlerhorse lusus gave him. so yeah in a sense the milk could be considered magical going by hussie's crazed writing though it is also funny to think all lusus milk can get one roided but equius was the only one weird enough to fuck around and find out >>53791 >That's a pretty good theory, and it would make for some good foreshadowing. thanks, man. feels good to finally share all the random headcanons I've had >I might take this up and draw it out that'd be a high honor! I'd love to see it if you get around to it whenever
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>>53792 I did a long time ago off similar suggestions of "wears the sweater to hide fat tits" and "angry shortstack" but theyre on the excessive end and its been ages. Any particulars? Build/clothing/pose etc. I just think the ponytail is cute.
>>53793 This might sound weird but I always saw Equius as being not that very buff, at least not in the beginning. His strength comes from his Blue Blood genetics, but hes rather slim. Yeah, everyones got the same bodyshape, but he feels more athletically toned than the rest, albeit with more definition in his arms. That being said, "equius is robust but also full of sparring scars like his horns" gives me a good idea.
Its always weird remembering Terezi's eyes aren't just a flat red or like marbles but are normal eyes scorched into ruined lumps. Probably extremely uncomfortable to look at. Which she likely banks on.
>>53797 Im curious. Are her eyes dead? Why hasn't she removed them?
>>53804 Shes completely blind. Its never addressed how she handled the physical aftermath of going out and looking directly at the Alternian sun for an unspecified period. All we know is that it doesnt take much exposure to their sun to straight kill you, so staring wide eyed into it is sure to be grisly. We also don't know how most medical problems were dealt with on Alternia. Stuff like the robolimbs in the comic were directly fabricated and installed by Equius, a group friend. It would seem if you don't know someone who knows someone youre just fucked. Maybe hiveswap mentions any kind of advertised medical care, surely some troll is doing it to make bank if nothing else. Galactic conquering armies need doctors.
>>53807 I always wondered if she would mind having her eyes removed, and if that would be something she would go for to avoid infection since she can technically see through colors
>>53807 Why didn't Equius give her robot eyes? Was she holding out hope that she'd get her sight back? Did she just like the color of her eyes?
>>53813 She didn't want to. Terezi sees her blindness as something connecting her to her dragon mom and also as an important event between her and Vriska
>>53789 Vriska and Kanaya would have spikes, since their horns have spikes.
>>53815 Could say they're hairs, like a moth or spider might have.
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>>53711 Check out my second attached pic. >>53749 >>53752 Well let me tell you, your commentary is very good, please continue sharing your thoughts! I having fun reading them, and it's the kind of content that I feel separates the Threads on 8chun, with the kind of stuff you see on MegidoChan. >>53804 Your post was number 413 in the Thread, congratulations.
>>53796 nah, doesn't sound weird at all. I just mean x is more y than the average troll, not that they have to be extremely out there. I like the idea of blue blood genetics being outrageous like you mentioned I liked picrel's interpretation of him too. he can be about as mucular as this. also I like the idea of him having a long face because of the classic "why the long face" horse joke. why the hell not, right? >gives me a good idea looking forward to it
I also am working on headcanons for how exactly everyone's clothes look- taking a little bit of artistic liberties of course
>>53825 > headcanons for how exactly everyone's clothes look I didn't think there was much room for speculation there.
>>53831 We already know they're all fatter than holy hell. Hussie declared it so.
>>53842 What multiple children does to a sticc.
>>53842 Now make her do her taxes.
>>53843 How the fuck did Jake fumble this
>>53845 She was never actually interested in him. She only wanted his hope powers
>>53846 And his dick
>>53847 I don't think Aranea has shown any sexual desire in the comic. I think she got it all out of her system during her eons in the dream bubbles
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Scarves are a very portable snack when you're a Child of the Moth
>>53844 She'd rather be dead again.
>>53817 >Well let me tell you, your commentary is very good, please continue sharing your thoughts! I having fun reading them, and it's the kind of content that I feel separates the Threads on 8chun, with the kind of stuff you see on MegidoChan. Glad someone's enjoying my random thoughts. Something that occurs to me now I've gotten into the part of the story where Rose is starting to play the game with John is what Sburb is as it functions. Without getting into what is revealed later, it almost seems like way to see through the veil, to sort of access the debug options of a reality based on Simulation Theory. The time elements also remind me of the concept of time as a "solid" object that goes from the first quantum moment to the last, and all time exists at once within it, and we just perceive time as we move through it. The sort of "techno-gnostic" elements (as someone in the 4chan thread put it) almost feel backed up by things like the Alchemiter. I know the days of readings like this are numbered as the comic progresses, but at this point it's fun to think about them in this way.
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>>53831 like I said I'm taking a bit of artistic liberties with it- such as specific sleeve types to their shirts or skirt lengths!
>>53842 >>53845 >>53850 Hot, now make her fix my life.
>>53846 He only wanted her body, it could have been a mutually beneficial partnership!
>>53842 >>53845 >spiderweb bra and stockings love this idea
>>53854 This would fix me forever.
>>53748 >Should she have curves? I like the flat Vriska meme mostly because I find her envy is pretty cute.
>>53857 It's an extremely erotic concept ::::)
>>53862 You can upload 5 images in a single post.
>>53866 Why anyone would go back to 4chan is beyond me. This site is so much better in every way.
>>53870 There are just more people there, which makes discussion more fun
>>53871 But that's not true.
>>53870 It's because Botchan has more active users (more humans + the bots lol) and everything is faster there. That's all, nothing more. But yes 8chun is superior in every possible way, so it's not even the site's fault, it's the people's fault.
>>53873 Bunch of beaten wives, the lot of them.
>>53848 >Asexual Aranea. Why is that hot to me.
>>53853 Oooh, sleeve references...
>>53871 >discussion And that’s where your argument would fall flat for the vast majority of threads on halfchan. Most of the posts there are barely three word long trite. It’s most famous on 4/v/, but even 4/co/ isn’t much better.
>>53877 4Chan's got like, four main posts, especially on /co/. >Coomers >Deathbattle >WHO IS BETTER?!?! >Clear and obvious bait for the sake of engagement. Occasionally you'll find a genuine thread but those are far and inbetween. Even the actual coomer threads, like Funbag Fridays, barely make it to the post limit anymore.
>>53878 Maybe we should advertise more aggressively and make everyone come over here. Let the ailing patient finally die.
>>53878 It becomes impossible to ignore how compromised it is if you keep track even the slightest bit. Every single post by a real user that isn't someone having a schizophrenic meltdown just feeds that little hope in the back of your head that maybe the 'real' chan experience is still out there, but its cope. Partly by the changed nature of the internet, partly simple age. >>53880 Don't do this. Leading horses to water etc.
>>53880 It will take far longer and far more than just us poking this bloated, cancerous body to get it to keel over. The only thing that can kill 4chan is 4chan.
>>53880 Jannies over there work overtime censoring all mention of 8moe. I think the approach OP did is the best way to get past the radar, at least for now. Jannie’s will notice if you overdo it though.
>>53884 Imo, we should keep Homestuck posting to a low. Lets make another thread in a few threads, see what happens.
>>53880 don't force it too hard or you'll get the bad eggs too
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>>53789 >equius is robust but also full of sparring scars like his horns
>>53815 horns are commonly spiky so I just take it as alluding to an average look
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>>53792 Took a whack at something more proportionally sensible with the modern know-how. But no Femkat is ever going to dodge the tsundere allegations so lets all make our peace with that from the start.
>>53888 you made him look super cool, great stuff anon just needs more sweat drops kek
>>53895 I mean you're right but you don't gotta shout it onto the message boards.
>feferi is a swimmer who and is slightly taut and slim like her horns See, this has always been my headcannon for Feferi. She lives in the deep sea, shes constantly swimming and dragging large, heavy objects. Either one of two things are going to be a fact here >Deep sea = she needs to be thick with fat(blubber) to stay cool and insulated(The mammal approach) >Deep sea = she needs to be quick and agile, like a salmon or trout(The fish approach). I like the idea of agile and somewhat curvy Feferi, so I'ma go with that next.
>>53899 the middle ground there you're doing is a good idea. I also like your theory aquatic trolls have some amount of blubber
>>53901 Consider this as well. Depending on where the Aquatic Troll lives, thats where some of their physiology comes from. Eridan, being on the sandy beaches and barely touching the water, doesn't build up fat reserves like a deep sea Troll like Feferi might. Hes more active, and thus, would have more toned and athletic muscles, albeit in a relaxed state since hes also a big fucking nerd. Meenah, by contrast, I don't remember her ever swimming in any capacity, and thus would be somewhat sedintary in her life and might actually be the thicker one of the group, before becoming active during her game.
>>53866 >only five >not eight She'd be so disappointed...
>>53903 Can you craft an Aradia? I've been sending your stuff to a friend of mine and she loves Aradia.
>>53904 I hope she enjoys these!
>>53878 You forgot another category: >literally just grabbing screencaps from Shitter
>>53884 >8moe I just realized that we've been neglecting an opportunity. Couldn't we make edits of Vriska and 8moe/Cakechan?
>>53906 This the updated NovelAI? Impressive if so
>>53916 NAI 4.5 seems to struggle with a lot of the same things that 4.0 did when it comes to Homestuck characters, namely symbols (I haven't gotten a single Aradia with an actual Aries symbol) and the fact that anything with a "Homestuck" tag is assumed to be a troll unless you put in a bunch of negatives like "gray skin" and "horns". On the plus side, it takes way less attempts to get horns to look accurate enough, as seen with the Aranea posts above.
>>53903 why does she mog vriska so heavily
>>53919 That was my next thought because the Roses are just kind of a blonde woman with a headband. Still, getting the horns right is always a start and the outfits are way closer. Still doesnt hold up vs actual custom loras but novel is never going to let people have that level of control. They do have some amount of regional prompting going though which is shocking. Should let you do multiple distinct chars way better.
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Aranea should've been a permanent part of the cast. If she got the ring of life before Vriska corrupted her into a manipulative villain (even though her motivation was just (Aranea did nothing wrong)), she wouldn't've gone evil and would've been WAAAAAY more helpful then Vriska was. Anything Vriska can do Aranea can do, but just better. All hail Kindfang I love her so much
Who is the best Troll to knock up and why is it Fem Eridan?
>>53925 why would you wanna knock up a femchud when the best troll ever (Aranea) is right there?
>>53920 8uilt different!!!!!!!!
>>53927 god I love her so much
>>53925 Im not sure theres anyone left who remembers who and what Eridan was past an outlet for yaoi fetishes or worse. If there was to begin with. Much as it grosses me out Erisol at least started as the usual "these characters absolutely hate eachother, fujos need them to fuck" and has over time mutated into people actually thinking there was any form of relationship there. Headcanon on gooncanon. Im angry, angry about shippers >:[
>>53929 I mean he was a kinda racist (which is to be expected when he's the second highest of the hemospectrum) guy who wanted to date Feferi. He's also a huge pussy cus he tries to join Jack instead of trying to kill him. There's not all that much to remember tbh
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requesting roxy wearing john's god tier hood on bed
>>53937 Addition to this request, Rogue John.
For your consideration gentlemen. Aranea Serket. Stuck in a wall.
>>53941 I'm considering it... sounds hot
>>53941 Oh thank goodness, I can get away from her blabbering and go stare at Porrim's Maryammaries
>>53943 You could punish her for all that blah blah blah. Here. Have a spanker.
>>53944 spanker? I hardly know 'er!
>>53916 Not him, but I'ma try and make an Aradia with the machine. I like her, shes friendly.
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>>53937 Im surprised this worked
>>53967 oh my fuck holy mother of fuck i have to jerk off. Good stuff man, just a little mistakes on the lips and that nose is kinda strange but you made my day.
>>53974 She's in her Lets-Make-An-Heir-Wear I was too surprised at the overall success and making dinner to employ the usual tricks. Like GIMP, or making the ass bigger for a better distraction.
>>53967 Is every girl you generate stacked?
Thought I'd give it a try and make a Roxy myself. Stealthy rogue. You can trust her. But you can't trust her shadow.
>>53977 I could make a sticc if I wanted to (see prior Femkat/Kanaya or the Neps in previous thread). Sometimes I do if a pose is kind of complex or I'm using it for making some kinda shitpost but trust me when I say everything I've posted is already showing max restraint on my lust for curves.
>>53911 >Couldn't we make edits of Vriska and 8moe/Cakechan? You'll have to be more specific. What kind of edits?
>>53928 My first kiss was with an Aranea cosplayer, so I've always had a special attachment to her.
>>53995 Did you bang her?
Thoughts on the Grand Highboob?
>>53995 based
>>53996 We made out in the stairwell at a convention center for about two hours, and she let me touch her underneath her dress. We kept in touch for about a year and a half after that but we never actually met up again.
>>53727 As an idea for how to color them, look at the metals associated with each classical planet.
>>53727 love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>54007 Thats pretty sweet man.
>>54022 I miss her dearly.
Good morning everyone, OP Here! We're at: >506 replies So we've exceeded the bump limit. Which means we exceeded the 500 post mark TOO FAST compared to the previous thread (which took around 65 days to exceed 500 posts), here it only took us 17 days. That's very fast compared to anything else on this board, in fact. Given the current events, I have a request and a proposal for how we will move forward: First, I ask that no one make a new thread yet, because I would like us to continue this thread until it REACHES 888 posts. That means that once we reach 887 posts, no one here should make any new posts. So the 888th post is an edit of Vriska promoting 8chan, with a link to the following thread. That 888th post and new thread can be done by anyone, not just me, but it would be good if someone had the edit prepared beforehand, to use it first in the next thread! From the third thread onwards, I will proceed (or whoever creates the new thread should) to provide an explanation that, from now on, we will only create a new thread every 1000 posts. Following the example of Toonami's Threads, they are the only other threads on this board that have a speed close to ours: 3: >>52756 2: >>47771 1: >>46559 <Ok but why didn’t we do that from the beginning? Also, didn’t you say that the rules establish, as you explained before, that it is valid to create a new thread as long as the previous edition reached 500 posts?? The thing is, I was operating under the assumption that the Second Thread would be much slower and less active than the first one, because most of the activity in the first one was a product of it being born in the middle of the 4chan hack, with everyone unable to use the site and most taking refuge here. So I simply figured the second thread would take at least 100 days to reach 500 posts, and given that, I know for a fact that the simple act of creating a new thread resets the momentum of the conversation and motivates people to participate again. I figured it would be better to create a new thread at that time (1st July) rather than wait until December or something for it to reach 1000 posts. Not to mention that this would make the General easier to find for new users who were invited here to 8chan, because simply by entering here, you would see it bumped on the front page instead of having to navigate the catalog a bit to find it. In my experience, those kinds of details attract people's attention. And last but not least, I hadn’t even noticed yet that Toonami threads were the only threads on this board that reached 1000 posts at that point. I just looked at other Generals on the board that follow this structure of waiting until 500 posts for a new thread. But none have been as fast as this. Unexpectedly and against all odds, this thread ended up being almost 4 times faster than the first edition. What the fuck lol, so we behaved against my forecasts and we are doing well. So yeah, from the third edition onwards we will follow the 1000-post structure (unless activity declines greatly), and for this thread, to celebrate, we will do the 888 Vriska thing. Suggestions? Comments? Complaints? You don’t agree? Feel free to leave a reply and say what you think.
>>54031 how about the 888 vriska thing but with Aranea instrad
>>54032 Sounds like keeping with the spirit of what this Thread was :D
>>54024 you deserve a better life mate. Take care
>>54031 woo bump limit- the next step in learning how this site works >Suggestions? Comments? Complaints? You don’t agree? Feel free to leave a reply and say what you think. sounds good to me. since you are doing a vriska/aranea theme thread next op may I vote that we have different characters in the op moving forward?
>>54038 different character each thread sounds nice. Given how many characters are in this series it'd be doable to have at least 42 threads, assuming each thread is based on one character at a time
>>54031 This sounds reasonable. I'm game.
>>54031 Why not just ask the BO to increase the post limit?
Don't threads start fucking up at 1000 posts?
>>54051 Over 1000 not before 1000
372 more post then, this going to be interesting
Why did Hussie make Jane, the second sexiest character, evil? Does he hate women?
>>54058 Her evilness makes her hotter.
>>54059 true... I didn't think of that. Maybe Hussie's actually not that bad
>>54060 Occasionally his genius shines through >Buckteeth >Short black hair >Nerd glasses >Primary colors are Cyan and Red >Loves to bake/always wanted to be a mother >Biggest fucking tiddies >MILF
it's wild how all the HS girls I like the most have been/are evil. Why does Hussie make his sexiest babes evil? Is he dumb, or was he actually a 300 IQ mega-genius
>>54063 Hes a genius retard.
>>54031 > Which means we exceeded the 500 post mark TOO FAST compared to the previous thread (which took around 65 days to exceed 500 posts), here it only took us 17 days. That's very fast compared to anything else on this board, in fact. Previous bread maker here, this is the main reason why I didn't want to make another thread so quickly.The other reason was I thought the threads would automatically lock after a certain point, lmao. The main reason it went faster is that you did a better job of advertising it on the 4/co/ threads. I was just hiding tiny urls in images because I got banned instantly when mentioning this thread there, and again when I attached a spoilered image containing the link more visibility. I guess it must have been some bot-janny, since all you had to do in order to avoid detection was substitute one of the characters. With the benefit of hindsight, it might be worth while asking Frank to increase the bump limit as >>54046 says. Also, to be fair, we also had more barely on-topic softcore porn posting the thing /hsg/ was banned for on cuck/co. I'd recommend anons to take advantage of the ability to post 5 images per post and consolidate their horny posts into one as much as possible. >Suggestions? We can work on the OP for the next thread. Somebody attached a refined version early on in the thread. pic unrelated.
Here's the template in question: /hsg/ - Homestuck General: [Placeholder] Edition Discuss Homestuck, other MSpaint comics like Problem Sleuth, and other HS-Related content. We've started a homestuck read-along here: >>53588 >How do I read homestuck? Not through the official website since its broken. The Unofficial Homestuck Collection is the best option: GitHub: https://github.com/GiovanH/unofficial-homestuck-collection Official page: https://homestuck.giovanh.com/unofficial-homestuck-collection/ (dead) Mirror with archive links: https://unofficial-homestuck-collection.carrd.co/ (mirror) Third-Party Mods: https://github.com/GiovanH/unofficial-homestuck-collection/wiki/Third-Party-Mods Gay HICU fork: https://homestuck.github.io >Videos https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHO1rc05qiGtAidSBy_8jsEOlHXR6x4cd&si=Y8Z9B8tG1JXl1Hz7 (for those too lazy to read) >Wiki https://mspaintadventures.fandom.com/wiki/ >Art https://mspabooru.com/ >Music https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/music >Fanventures https://mspfa.com/ >Forums https://omegaupdate.freeforums.net/ basically dead >Other Resources https://homestuck.net/index.html >News The Roach has stepped down from HICU, apparently for health reasons. Hussie is attempting to become relevant again via instagram modelling Beyond Character-Assassination is on a sadly short hiatus. HICU had the shere impertinence to gather shekels selling a JOHN plushie when they're in the process of retconning him into "june", alongside a Vriska one. Both are sold out so they now have enough funding to continue beg you for money on patreon. Michael Guy Bowman made a new homosuck song : https://bowman.bandcamp.com/track/on-the-thirteenth-day Any additions/adjustments?
>>54072 >Fanventures I wonder what the point of these is. Homestuck was originally a quest. The ideal way to make a Homestuck spinoff/fangame would be a quest.
>>54072 >HICU had the shere impertinence to gather shekels selling a JOHN plushie when they're in the process of retconning him into "june", alongside a Vriska one. 1 explain this june thing 2 post the plushies
>>54046 >>54070 I mean, I'm not sure it's a good idea to make that change. The only Generals on this board that reach 1,000 posts are the Toonami's Threads, as the OP mentioned. The rest of the Generals on this board follow a "New Thread once 500 post" process. And then Homestuck Generals would become second when we start the 1000 post thingy. Doesn't it sound like Kinda would ruin the Board changing its entire structure just for what happens in two generals?
>>54072 awesome. can't wsit to check out all the resources too >The Roach has stepped down from HICU who's the roach and what's and hicu?
>>54079 Maybe the mods could just lock and archived these threads once they hit 500?
fun fact (true): mimosas will fix your hangover
As much as I love Aranea, I think her and the other troll dancestors shouldn't've been included. The only two beforus trolls who mattered (Aranea and the other fish one) could've been replaced with one of the alternian trolls, which would give them much needed characterization. Hussie is a hack, not that that's new news.
>>54107 But I like the dancestors. I'm already bothered that we never see anything of the Beforan Ancestors. Imagine if we went the WHOLE comic without seeing the ORIGINAL players? That would have been really annoying
>>54108 I mean I like the Beforans too, but adding twelve new characters after you already added twelve new characters is just ridiculous. If the story was longer, it'd probably be able to accommodate characterization of the dancestors, but it's not. And also developing like 32 (alternian and beforus trolls, alpha and beta kids) would be a herculean task of monumental proportions.
>>54109 >If the story was longer It's plenty long enough already. If anything the story should have been shorter.
>>54110 fair. A way to make it shorter though, would be to just not introduce the beforan trolls, and instead give any important roles filled by them to any of the alternian trolls. The story would probably be a tiny bit shorter. You could probably also cut out the alpha kids. They didn't really do much. And also cut out that entire act with Caliborn. And just not introduce Calliope, that could probably work.
>>54111 There was no important roles filled by them is the problem. The only things they did was either introduce problems (the solving of which does not count as an important role since they don't happen without them) or waste time better spent on the many other undeveloped or lost plot threads.
I must draw Renity's fat ass.
>>54107 I love the dancestors, and even though it's frustrating how some alternia trolls got a lot more depth to the rest, I respect hussie's choice for subverting the expectation that they would all make it out with their own arcs. it made the gamzee killing spree that much more horrifying I will say though that I wish meenah and aranea's screentime got swapped for two of the more underdeveloped zodiacs to comfort my ocd about how uneven it is
Imagine. Evil Jane in an evil corset.
>>54120 sounds really hot
>>54109 >>54110 >>54111 Here's a Hot Take: A story is not bad for being long or short, HOWEVER, making a long story which good is harder than making a good short story, because the longer the story, the easier it is for you to screwed it up. The problem is not that the story was long, but that Hussie was too Hussie for it.
>>54123 well yeah there's plenty of long good stories. If Hussie just found a way to end the story without adding more and more and more and more and more stuff, it'd probably have been better for it, unfortunately, Hussie Hussie'd out and Hussified his story until it was fully and irrevocably Hussed
>>54124 >well yeah there's plenty of long good stories. Name 3
>>54125 Well I don't really know any, I was assuming there were, because, reasonably, a story should be able to go on for a subjectively long time whilst also being good.
>>54125 Wheel of time, Dune (till Frank died at least), lotta the classics are that way for a reason. If you like nonfiction Gulag Archipelago is great for hating commies or bureaucracy in general. >>54120 Speaking of
>>54076 The majority of fanventures are written by people who weren't aware, or otherwise do not care, about homestuck being a quest originally. A few fanventures were quests though. >>54077 >1 explain this june thing A while back Hussie hid a bunch of signed Toblerone chocolates around, with the reward of "canonizing" the wish of whoever finds them. One of them wished for the "popular" headcanon of John being a tranny named "June". Apparently it was 1st pic >2 post the plushies No. >>54080 James Roach, former creative director of the Homestuck Independent Creator (((Union))). Around 2019, Andrew Hussie handed homestuck over to a bunch of crazy hackfraud fans to make Homestuck^2: Ambiguously canon. The original team was lead by a communist tranny called Kate Mitchell whose a whole other rabbit hole, but did such a bad job even tumblrites hated it. Around 2022, Hussie approached former music contributor James Roach about completing Homosuck^poo. So they formed the HICU and began updating the glorified fanfic again in 2023. "James Roach" is just the fake name he took to get into collage. Because apparently racist college professors are literally color-blind and can only tell if you're mexican via your name. >>54107 Makes sense. I agree. I was of the opinion that you would have just Aranea and Meenah as is, while having the rest be background characters with no dialog i.e. no openbound, but it makes more sense to give their roles to pre-existing characters as you said. Really, most of Homestuck's problems could be solved by reducing its length, in no small part because there would be less time to get corrupted by tumblr. >>54123 I wouldn't call that a hot take at all. The criticism of homestuck's length isn't that it could have never remained good being as long as it is, but that would have been better to wrap up while the comic was still good than risk it degrading. Thinking on all the nutjob tumblr communists who took over homestuck, it occurs to me how much of a double-edged sword the "collaborative" approach Hussie took with his fanbase was. Its funny He ended up hating his fanbase and correctly comparing them to a cult when its that crazy tumblr the same ones who sent death threats to sherlock actors need I remind you crowd he actively catered to.
>>54141 >former music contributor James Roach I could be wrong about this, but was Roach even a music contributor during the comic's actual run? I'm pretty sure he didn't start getting involved until Hiveswap.
>>54141 >Hussie hid a bunch of signed Toblerone chocolates around, with the reward of "canonizing" the wish of whoever finds them. what a cute way to interact with fans for an author. too bad the fan had an off-kilter self-fellating idea
>>54141 if only someone else were to have found Hussie's golden ticket... We could've had literally ANYTHING, but no, it had to fall into the hands of a tranny-lover. I can cope with Roxy being trans, because it's in one timeline, and the other her is actually alive, but there's literally only one John, meaning they're gonna force the one and only version of him left to troon out all because of the whims of one retard. It just pisses me off so much. The ONLY thing that could make this even slightly better would be having John get together with a female again. Specifically not a guy, since John was all like "i'm not a homosexual" so they could rationalize him being into guys whilst being a "girl". Poor guy is just being beat down by the narrative (Dirk) worse than Jade was
>>54148 Simply ignore everything after The End and it won't be your problem.
>>54149 I could, but if you give a starving man a plate of shit, he'll still eat it. And after binging Homestuck and the Epilogues, I'm ravenous for more content, even if it's shit
>>54143 James made a gigantic total of >2 !!! music tracks in the original run of the comic, and that's about it. Yes, as ridiculous as it sounds, someone who made a gigantic total of just two themes, out of hundreds of this comics' music tracks contributed by hundreds of people, the guy who did only 2 ended up becoming the "CEO" of Post-Homestuck. >>54148 > I can cope with Roxy being trans Why should you even accept that? Personally, I have no problem with the idea of X character going troon in a supposed sequel. My problem is that they couldn't have chosen worse characters to fill that role. Literally nothing about Roxy screams trans. I find what they did to her a insult to her character, even if it's just in a timeline. John is almost as bad, because the entire point of the character is that he was the only "normal" one in the entire cast.
>>54151 >Why should you even accept that? Because I can kinda ignore it. It's not like she looks too masculine as a tranny, and they hardly even show "him" really. Does it make sense of Roxy to troon out? No. Hell, it'd make more sense for Dirk to if anything.
>>54152 The thing is, Roxy barely appears in all of Homestuck2. It actually seems like the writers genuinely hated her. Candy Roxy has far less dialogue than Meat Roxy, a character who already appeared very little so far.
>>54153 Well obviously they hate her. They took a character who seemed pretty comfortable in their own skin, and trooned her out. You don't do that with character you like. That's why they're going to do that same to John, toblerone fuckery probably aside.
>>54141 >Andrew Hussie handed homestuck over to a bunch of crazy hackfraud fans why would you do that. why would you ever do that!? >whose a whole other rabbit hole well now I'm curious about that too >but did such a bad job even tumblrites hated it how do you fuck up that badly kek
>>54148 >if only someone else were to have found Hussie's golden ticket... We could've had literally ANYTHING what would you guys have canonized if you found the toblerone? me? I would canonize dirk and dave liking each other romantically in a separate timeline- not the main one of course
>>54157 Hussie has always been incredibly easy to manipulate. He never expected to be someone responsible or looked up to and in turn was easy to get to divest that responsibility, made worse by his dad dying whom he genuinely loved and probably got lots of advice from centering him. The second that last anchor was gone he's lucky he didnt end up in Scientology. And if there's one thing troons cannot live without it's manipulating others. >>54148 I'd have gone for something like 'In a gameless timeline, Feferi beats the Condesce'. Improbable, self-serving, but has absolutely no bearing on any future storytelling.
>>54148 >>54159 If I had the Golden Ticket, I would just ask that Homestuck2 be deleted or the site be closed/archived. And just pretend the Epilogue never happened and focus on finishing Hiveswap once and for all. I think that would be best for everyone.
>>54159 >spoiler that would create crazy good drama, but if I had the toblerone i'd canonize murderstuck having been retconned by John, or at least retcon Feferi and/or Nepeta's deaths so that they or the other trolls (not Vriska) could have another shot at something other than being fodder. That or the beta kids all being prototyped into one sprite. I always found the mashing of characters into one to be fascinating >>54161 that probably wouldn't work tbh. But might've been able to canonize the deaths of all the main characters (so they can't be ruined further)
>>54161 dunno if you can ask for all that when the reward is only to canonize one thing but it's a solid idea
>>54162 >or at least retcon Feferi and/or Nepeta's deaths so that they or the other trolls (not Vriska) could have another shot at something other than being fodder. I would love if nepeta got retconned to make it out and we had a chance to balance out the leo sign screentime. plus she's a based character overall- very earnest and cool. feferi is cool too but I feel that her sign got balanced out by meenah and condie having a lot of screentime so that's not as much a priority to me personally >That or the beta kids all being prototyped into one sprite. I always found the mashing of characters into one to be fascinating that would be so cool to see in something like a doomed timeline. I wonder how they'd end up talking
>>54164 I’ll tell you what I would canonise if Hussie ever does another one of these: >all the characters in homestuck are cishets One wish, all damage done by trannies is undone, and leaves no room for tumblrfags to make any other characters trannies or make John gay or whatever. It would have the side effect of retconning some previously gay/bisexual characters straight, but frankly I think tumblr deserves it after forcing trannydom onto John. A less extreme version would be: >All the characters who were trans at the time of writing are now retroactively always cishets. If Hussie ever does another toblerone quest, we need to go full HWDU on that.
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>>54148 >>54159 >>54160 >>54161 >>54162 >>54171 Just FYI, there were multiple toblerone wishes and not every single one has come true. They're more of a suggestion. Something like "end homestuck", "retcon someone's death" and "make everyone cis" would just be ignored, y'know. And the thing about June is that according to Roach (I think) there are three things that were mandated to happen by Hussie: Yiffy, Helltier Vriska and June. So June seems to have been planned by Hussie even during the epilogues, which checks out because Roxy actually tries to talk to John about his gender and its kinda out of nowhere which is kinda shitty writing but it at least shows that the author had intention of going in that direction
>>54177 >it at least shows that the author had intention of going in that direction After an entire 8000+ webcomic of John being entirely comfortable with the fact he is a man. It makes “iceman is gay” look organic. Even if he spent a million pages setting it up, though, the whole concept of June is so counter to John as a character there’s no way of canonising “June” that isn’t trash writing.
>>54164 dragon ball did it several times to the point of nobody having any idea what should be considered canon anymore. Nothing is set on stone, this is art, they can do whatever they want.
>>54177 wtf is helltier vriska
>>54201 (me) nvm, just looked it up. I hate ^2 and Hussie a little more now. We got "helltier" before we got Aranea returning. Sad really.
>>54159 >what would you guys have canonized if you found the toblerone? Fedorafreak's successful session caused Problem Sleuth, and, by extension, the Midnight Crew.
>>54171 >All the characters who were trans at the time of writing are now retroactively always cishets. I can get behind this one. no need to punish any of the other characters who are fine the way they are >If Hussie ever does another toblerone quest, we need to go full HWDU on that. god I would love a new toblerone quest that I actually can participate in
>>54205 Davekat was out of character, so a wish that would include fixing Dave would be good.
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>>54177 >roxy is a donkey kong fan >hussie draws house of dirk fanart >more handmaid content >bringing back the forums >gamzee in hanbook outfit all these kino wishes and we got this timeline. any time players here that can go back and fix this?
>>54207 How exactly was it ooc? I mean yeah, I don't really like davekat and prefer dersecest instead, but it seems kinda in character? Like with all his interactions with Karkat, I can see them dating
>>54207 davekat was a funny crackship that never needed to be canon. dave already showed a proclivity in comic toward friendly, funny girls like jade and terezi how is karkat even in the range of his type
the amount of sex female trolls owe human men is ridiculous
>>54209 >any interact between two characters is sexual tension I expected shippers to have grown out of this by now.
>>54212 no I mean that's not what I meant. What I meant was that I can see their dynamic. Some characters just can't mesh well or have barely interacted, but Dave and Karkat have a dynamic. And really, I think they should've had a kismesis instead of being matesprits
>>54177 > "make everyone cis" >when there are actual gay couples and the trolls are all bisexual
>>54214 Hussie could probably bullshit it in if he wanted to
>>54210 Before characters were retconned into trannies bridget, gay crackships were canonised korrasami. Wonder what the next forced headcanon trend would have been if the cultural zeitgeist hadn’t gotten sick of the pozz.
>>54211 After adopting human relationship structures and marrying said human men, right?
>>54214 >>54215 They already did the inverse. It’s no less contrived than that. <I was just lying to myself when I said I was bisexual <I always knew deep down I was different from the other trolls <it was just alternian/beforan society that kept me from realising my true sexuality
>>54217 of course. Premarital sex is for degenerates
>>54210 Homestuck shows perfectly why almost any semi-serious creative views much of the fans with utter contempt.
>>54214 Cis means "not trans". It has nothing to do with sexual preference
>cis Don't use troon words. Just use the proper word: normal.
>>54224 That's like saying "straight" is a troon word
>>54224 cisgender is a scientific term though. There's almost no other way to describe the state of not being trans, beside just "normal" which isn't that descriptive
>>54222 oh i see. Well jade always had a dog dick but i get you. Actually is very strange how much dog dick jokes you can make, and it doesn't come as even offensive or forced or trying to be anything but a joke. Meanwhile Roxy trans didn't even involved leprechaun magic or anything, and is supposed to be a big deal. Everything after credits is so fucking boring
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>>54227 >Roxy trans they did WHAT to roxy?
>>54227 Jade isn't really trans? If anything I'd say she's more intersex coded. Roxy being trans in the epilogues is alright. I like how both Roxys have gender thoughts and intepret them in different ways. The main issue I have there is that Meat Roxy's drip sucks ass and that every conversation between Roxy and Dave just revolves around "haha you're my dad now instead of dirk" like it gets old quick
>>54220 Based. I hope these couples are very happy.
>>54224 If you were making a toblerone wish, you’d want to make it as clear as possible, leaving no wriggle-room. >>54225 Not really. Nobody used “cis” prior to gender theory. >>54226 I don’t think 99.9% of the population needs a word to describe them. >>54229 There’s nothing “coded” about it. Jade is beyond-canonically a hermaphrodite with a dog dick.
>>54228 Basically, in the epilogues Roxy and Calliope spend a lot of time together and they start exploring their gender identities. Calliope, free from her duality with her brother, goes they/them in both meat and candy timelines. In Meat, John disappears, leading to Roxy and Callie to stay a pseudo-couple. Roxy, exploring her feelings, at first takes on they/them pronouns as well but eventually goes full he/him and embraces a sort of "third strider brother" persona with a matching pair of shades. Meanwhile, in Candy John and Roxy get together and they have a child. Due to Roxy not hanging out with Callie that much, the topic of gender doesn't really come up so Roxy stays she/her though she does still think about herself and her gender. She says that when she had her kid, it made her realise that her biological sex doesn't really mean much. Her womb, her breasts, they don't make her a woman, they just have a bodily function. So while Candy Roxy still goes by she/her, I think there's reason to still read her as "female presenting non-binary"
>>54229 >Jade isn't really trans? If anything I'd say she's more intersex coded please don't start with this shit
>>54233 >Roxy and Calliope spend a lot of time together and they start exploring their gender identities See, this is the problem. Only people in the weird gender culture stuff even do this to begin with. To everyone outside of it it's just a bunch of weirdos ruining their lives.
>>54233 But “female” is biological sex, anon. That’s a different thing from “gender” remember?
>>54236 Y-Yeah? Where did I contradict that?
>>54233 >have a baby >your first instinct is to quesion if you even feel like a woman by the girl who kept begging dirk to impregnate her no less. You all can dress up as bunny girls i don't care, whatever makes you happy. But roxy is peak girl and the worse character to pick for this, in fact, i think thag's the point and is intentional "we can't have actual feminity that's racist".
>>54233 >being trans stems from thinking trans thoughts to begin with they were trying to be progressive with this but accidentally set the movement back 20 years and that's ironic kek
>>54237 >"female presenting non-binary" >implying the way she dresses is “female” >when female is a biological term I suppose you meant “woman-presenting”. Then again, most trannies give themselves fake breasts despite breasts being a feature belonging to a biological sex which supposedly has nothing to do with gender, so who knows.
>>54241 I still don't see the issue. Candy Roxy presents herself as a biological woman and is content with the label. "female presenting" and "woman presenting" is the same thing. And yeah, most people want to look like what their gender is supposed to in their culture, so it would make sense that trans women would want breasts, be they real or fake
>>54242 >"female presenting" and "woman presenting" is the same thing Glad you agree woman is a biological sex, lmao >And yeah, most people want to look like what their gender is supposed to in their culture <you should chop off your dick and get fake breasts to match an arbitrary societal standard So much for body positivity.
>>54244 Well the "chopping off your dick" part isn't required since you don't go outside showing your genitals. And I mean, yeah, most people try to match their arbitrary societal standard. I don't see you going around wearing a kimono
At least in my fan art I can make them normal Hussie can't do anything about it.
>>54245 >the "chopping off your dick" part isn't required Which makes it all the worse. >most people try to match their arbitrary societal standard There’s a vast difference between wearing attire and implanting silicon lumps. I certainly wouldn’t get a plastic dick implanted onto my nose if society expected it. Y’know, I remember when tumblr used to be against “conventional beauty” and “gender norms”, back in the day. Now, when it comes to gender? You should totally match whatever norms society imposes on your appearance even if it involves spending thousands of bucks on fake tits. I’m sure this is why they feel immense psychological distress at having/not having a dick; because they’re just trying to match societal standards. Which is is weird, because I though tomboys liking board shorts and football was supposed to be evidence that they’re really dudes, not something they’re trying to do to match the expected societal norm for a gender they aren’t currently aware of being. Of course, women are “supposed” to look like the biological sex “female” because that’s what a woman is, and trannies wanted to be biologically female and just came up with gender theory afterwards >I don't see you going around wearing a kimono You don’t see me at all nigga, this is an imageboard.
>>54247 I see you in my dreams, anon...
>>54232 well yeah 99.9% of conversations aren't about gender, but when a conversation veers over there, it's nice to have words to describe concepts being discussed
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when are we getting the next chapter of the fucking game
>>54253 goddamn why'd they make him so sexy wtf
>>54253 Only thing we can do is make our own. We might not have talented artists but what we do have is.. uhhh... well... uhmmm...
>>54255 reasons, of course. why else >>54256 it's been several years. where is the kickstarter money going. HUSSIE
>>54257 the kickstarter monkey goes to drugs and hookers. Hussie told me this in person btw
>all roxy discussion in current year funnels into gendershit Jane was right, I liked her better when she was an alcoholic.
>>54261 nooo don't say that. she had a problem :(
>>54262 the "problem" in question being that she's gonna need another refill
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>>54261 This is why I hate the "you'll always have the original webcomic, the original version, the remake doesn't ruin anything because the original still exists, just ignore the Star Wars sequel trilogy and you'll be fine Disney doesn't force you to watch it" argument. No matter where you go, sequels/ramakes/new-forced-content ruin the discussion of the material you loved so much. In other news fam, someone made a Homestuck thread on /co/ and it was deleted pretty fast: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149465464 . Honestly, I'm not surprised and I don't know what they expected. Apparently, the "Hey... it's me, Dave Strider from Homestuck" and "nebada" Thread weren't enough for them. They can't just expect to have a literal Homestuck thread every day the second the previous one was archived. And I would have preferred someone continuing the so-called "Homestuck Read-Along" to do those two previous threads that I quoted tbh. Oh well, I hope the Umineko anon didn't get discouraged and that he keeps trying to read the comic, wherever he is.
>>54266 I think you should be able to have a discussion about anything HSBC related without anons sperging out about trannies. I feel like most of them haven't even read the epilogues. There are WAY bigger issues with them than like the one and a half trannies in the comic
>>54267 Anon. I mention it because, of all things, it was Roxy's gender what got us into a 25+ post discussion last night. And my message would still apply if we were talking about something else like Kanaya being a huge cuck.
do you think if I fucked Rose that Kanaya would watch in the Cuck Chair, or would she rather sit on the floor?
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>>54269 Kanaya isn't a cuck, she was cheated on. If you want to talk about cucks in post-canon HS you don't have to look further than Jake. There is a whole scene about Jane fucking Gamzee and then the non-existent camera zooms back and reveals that Jake has been sitting in the cuck chair the entire time
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I'd rawdog Jane while Jake watched
>>54270 I mean did you see how Dirk literally cucked her? I mean she was okay with it for a while. If I had Dirk's powers, nothing would stop me from fucking Rose
>>54274 But that's not her fault. She was literally mind controlled
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>>54272 But isn't that like indirectly fucking Gamzee? Like by sharing a sexual partner?
>>54276 a mind-controlled cuck is still a cuck though
>>54278 To answer the question, Kanaya is refined enough to sit in a chair instead of on the ground
>>54277 No. It's not like an indirect kiss thing or something. Plus, if I had to fuck Gamzee to fuck Jane I still would. If anything it'd be like I'm cucking Gamzee too, rather than fucking him indirectly.
kinda scared to read the epilogues now
What's with all the deleted yiffy posts >>54281 Just read em, man. They're better than what people think
>>54266 Remakes and reboots and sequels don't change the content, but they do change the CONTEXT. There was a pretty good Plague of Gripes video about that once.
>>54284 Whoops, meant to reply to >>54282
I fucking hare Yiffany think she IS the worst contribution of Homestuck2 as a whole. >>54282 Don't read them, save yourself the horror. >>54284 That was me, making a mistake in what I wrote twice. First stating that Yiffany was a character from the epilogues, when she was introduced in Homestuck2 (directly), and the second time I omitted her name for writing too fast, I thought that if I deleted it quickly I would save myself the edit or clarification, but I made two different mistakes each time, oops.
>>54287 I'm actually interested in why you dislike Yiffy that much if you're willing to have a genuine discussion about it
>>54288 What would you like me to explain exactly about why I hate her?
>>54289 nta but yeah I would. Do you hate her as a character or just hate how she is in the context of the story
>>54282 I think you should read 'em. They aren't really that bad, unless you're REALLY attached to the characters and would hate it if they were slightly flanderized
>>54289 Do you just hate her because you dislike the whole Jade Rose Kanaya situation?
The brief talk in the thread about Homestuck as a 70s sci-fi novel got me thinking about Homestuck as a novel in general, and how I used to like reading novelizations of games I liked. I remember loving an FF6 novelization which completed at over 300,000 words or something. I'll never go and look for it because it was probably really bad and I don't want to ruin the memories.
>>54293 Yeah it's fun to think of a work of fiction you like and imagine how it would be in any other medium. I think about homestuck as a live action movie quite often
>>54277 Oooh, that Jane.
>>54294 That's true, but in the case of Homestuck I worry about it's longevity. I mean it was unreadable in the original form only a few years after it finished. What about on another 10 years? The same can't be said about a lot of other media.
>>54296 Made to dominatrix troll bois
>>54298 no no no no no. Made to dominatrix ME
>>54290 >>54292 Everything about Yiffany's situation and everything that revolves around the character is literally the worst thing about the Homestuck sequels. It's just bad writing, a bad approach to writing ideas, and even bad character design. It's as if Yiffany embodies all of Post-Homestuck's flaws in a single character. If you want, for example, to write a story about Roxy "becoming trans" (although you couldn't have chosen a worse character to write that story about, but whatever), you have to tell me the story of how the character got there. Explain to me what the circumstances were that made the character got there and make such a radical shift in who the character is as a person. You can't just show up and tell me that Roxy is trans because she was "exploring gender identities" and expect me to just accept it without developing what led Roxy to make a decision that changes so much about who she is. Explanations of HS symbolism like "well she's a void player and they're unpredictable" are lazy. You can't use symbolism as a substitute for character development; you gotta SHOW ME the character development, tell me a story about it. This problem applies to everything that happens in Post-Homestuck in general. Returning to Yiffany's case. First of all, the story never gave a convincing explanation as to why Jade is so desperate to have a baby and have the child through ""natural means"". Keep in mind that during the hiatus and before HS2 changed its name to HSBY, we had literally zero of what we have now cling to in order to justify the characters' actions. In the days of HS2, the same arguments were constantly repeated by fans wondering why the hell they thought this would make sense: "..uh why didn't they use ectobiology??" "why didn't they just use ectobiology to make a baby between Jade and Dave?". Now, years later, we finally got an answer, which is that Jade feels "weirded out" by the inhabitants of Earth C, since she sees them as "weird bootleg versions of her and her friends". So basically, after all this time, it turns out that the inhabitants of Earth C all look like weird remixes of the main characters of Homestuck. Apparently, this always bothered Jade, and that's why she wanted her child to be someone "different from this". I have no idea if people realize the implications of this. But basically, believe it or not, they had to resort to MAKING JADE RACIST just to justify her actions and explain a plot point that never made much sense. Say this out loud and analyze how ridiculous it sounds. They forced the idea that Jade is disgusted by the inhabitants of Earth C (racism) to make sense of the plot. LOL. All this for what? To solve a problem that POST-HOMESTUCK ITSELF INTRODUCED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Because before the Epilogues, the idea that Jade had a dog dick was NEVER something established. Even if we accept this ridiculous idea that Jade is now racist (?), this explanation doesn't address a ton of alternative questions about how to solve the problem. For example, was it really impossible for Jade to fix and change her body? This is Homestuck. Now they should be able to create technology as or more advanced than the Alchemiter. Hell, technology is not even necessary. Roxy literally has the power to "CREATE" (steal) LITERALLY ANYTHING, FROM VOID. How the FUCK didn't they find a way around this then?? Maybe I wouldn't be asking these questions if only they had actually explored these themes and shown me what happened to Jade all those years that led her to think that CHEATING SEX WITH ROSE was the only way she could have a kid and feel satisfied with the process. If I have all this to say about Jade, you can imagine how much I'd say about Rose. I don't have time today to go on for hours since I gotta do some stuff. But I'll just say that I don't see Rose as the kind of person who would be willing to hide something of this magnitude from Kanaya for 15 years. We are STARTING from the fact that the entire conception of the character makes no sense and ruins two already established characters with a plot that does nothing more than introduce more drama for the sake of mre drama. All for what? For a girl who doesn't speak, doesn't have a defined personality yet, and Hussie literally came out of his cave to tell me that "she's going to be everyone's new favorite character" trying to brainwash me into ignoring the bad writing. The cherry on top? The design is horrible and has no real connection with either Rose or Jade. Doesn't look like their daughter. <Are you saying you would have preferred Yiffany to be a cute dogirl with long hair and a prettyy dress? Yes. Because even THAT would have been a better design than Yiffany's. And for your information, I LOVE TOMBOYS. Yiffany looks less feminine than both Jade and Rose at 13. She doesn't look like a tomboy, she doesn't even look "non-binary" Yiffany is literally the Nostalgia Critic but with dog ears and an angry face.
>>54300 I really don't get how Jade being freaked out by the fact that everyone in Earth C looks like a fusion between her and/or her friends is racist? I mean, I'd be kinda freaked out too if that was the case for me.
>>54301 Imagine that at some point in time, a white woman lives in an African country with her white husband, and they have a pair of friends from a similar white couple there, but everyone else in this country is black except for them. The woman desperately wants to have a child, but can't because she's unfortunately infertile. But she's so desperate to have a child and raise one that she's willing to adopt. So she goes to an Orphanage, but refuses at all costs to adopt a child from there because all the children there are black and none are white like her. And she dislikes the idea of adopting a black child, because she believes that black people "look weird" and "they make her uncomfortable" so she doesn't want her child to be one of them. But for reasons she cannot leave this country either. The woman resorts to secretly asking her husband to impregnate his best friend's wife, so that a baby can come out of there and she can adopt the baby as her own child, because she prefers that to adopting a black child. And the three of them keep this as a secret from the woman's best friend, who conveniently had to left his wife for 10 months. Is this "racism"? If that's not the right word, what word would you use to describe the behavior of this white woman?
>>54277 both jake and jane would kick gamzee's ass. Stop posting this trash
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>>54300 Earth-C's inhabitants looking like weird off-brands has always been canon since they have the gene pool off like 4 people. Also Jade wasn't the racist one, Rose was (though Candy Rose at the end of Candy is intentionally trying to be rude and mean and has no filter. Earth-C is ultimately a fake world inhabited by weird look-a-likes so Rose's feelings are kinda valid. Rose trying to make Kanaya hate her for when she's comatose is also why they didn't tell her about Yiffy). Jade's feelings towards ectobiology makes sense. A large factor in how Jade acts in the epilogues and beyond is informed by her loneliness (which is tied to her space aspect) stemming from her life alone on the island and then 3 years alone on the meteor. Even on Earth-C she doesn't fit into any relationship with the other players which is why she tries to fit herself into davekat. Her choice to have a biological child supports this, she wants to feel what a regular woman feels like. Living, loving, giving birth, all these "normal" human experiences she's deprived from. It makes sense that tries to get the closest thing to it. Then there's the whole Rose situation. Yiffy exists both for Jade to feel normal as well as to have that relationship with Dave (since Rose is the closest person to him genetically) Then there is Yiffy herself. Yiffy exists to be a stupid plotpoint. Maybe the dumbest, most stupid plotpoint to ever exist in homestuck. She is everything Ultimate Dirk hates about the current state of homestuck weaponised and that's the point. And about her personality? Well, we haven't really seen it. We will finally get to see her talk in Act 2, we'll probably see her room at the boarding school and we'll get tons of character interactions with her. We can't really judge her right now. And I don't know, I like her design. Probably the best design in the omega kids
>>54305 >Earth-C's inhabitants looking like weird off-brands has always been canon I never said otherwise. When I said a problem introduced by the Epilogues themselves, I was referring to the fact that Jade has a penis and this is the reason why she can't get pregnant. >Yiffy herself. Yiffy exists to be a stupid plotpoint. Maybe the dumbest, most stupid plotpoint to ever exist in homestuck. She is everything Ultimate Dirk hates about the current state of homestuck weaponised and that's the point After reading this, I have no interest in debating you much tbh, sorry. No, I don't think that "doing something bad on purpose" makes something good or interesting, nor does this make it have layers, nor is it a justification for anything, for that matter. In fact, in your post, you exhibit the exact kind of mentality that is the entire reason why the Epilogues and HS2 are so bad. The "do things for the sake of the reasons why you do them instead of asking yourself if it fits the story" and "we'll make sense of it later" mentality. You literally tell me "we haven't seen enough to judge her as a character yet" as if that means anything. When the Epilogues were the only thing available, we didn't yet know how the story would continue to judge where all this was going. We didn't know the reasons why everyone was so negligent toward John. Maybe what they hadn't told us would make the Epilogues make sense. It's been six years since then, it still doesn't, so I'm judging by what we have so far, and what we have so far is bad. I don't feel like browsing Homestuck 2 and taking a screenshot, but I distinctly remember Jade stating that the bootlegs were one of the biggest problems with "this place." Rose simply agreed. Maybe I'm remembering the order of the conversation wrong, but they were both on board with this perspective. if you like Yiffany's design, we're clearly not going to agree on much from the start.
I request one Jane.
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>>54306 I'm also not a fan of the "this plot point only exists as ragebait" but Yiffy isn't really that. Candy itself exists as a twisted post-canon mirror and Yiffy is just the epicenter of it And nope, the off-brand comment was made by Rose. Jade simply wants a regular birth instead of ectobiology
>>54303 Bro it literally happens in the epilogues
>>54266 I shudder to imagine the state of the MSPA forums if they still existed today. Although let's be honest, the damn HS2 staff would probably be moderating it and they'd just shut anything down that was even remotely critical of their work.
Obviously we need to make our own Homestuck continuation, with (unironically) blackjack and hookers.
>>54308 > Candy itself exists as a twisted post-canon mirror and Yiffy is just the epicenter of it What does that even mean? What does it even matter? Homestuck 2 isn't even canon. I think that's the conversation I was thinking about, but I'm not sure. My brain probably mixed up who said what because I understood the intention of this scene to be to make sense of Jade's decision. I still don't feel like it changes what I said or my points much. A character being racist towards Ectohumans to make sense of a plot point sounds like you're seriously not good at writing to me.
>>54309 and? is out of character
How are the Triclopses going? It looks like people stopped giving suggestions for them. >>54256 >We might not have talented artists Some of the people in this thread are pretty talented. What we likely don't have are coders. If anything, I think the adventure game and VN formats are too far away from the core of Homestuck unless they're additions to a central Sburb simulator.
>>54313 >and? is out of character The discussion against people low-key defending Epilogues in a nutshell.
>>54314 I can code in game maker studio but I feel like VNs and adventure games are the only real genres a HS game could exist in (because HS itself is a visual novel in the style of an adventure game). A sburb simulator doesn't really work. Sburb is too open-ended which is why it only works as a linear webcomic instead of an actual game. You won't get more than genesis project.
>>54302 well in that specific scenario, yes, that'd be racist, but this and the Jade Situation aren't analogous. By virtue of being mixtures of her and her friends, they are the same/similar to her own race. Her not liking them isn't related to race, therefore isn't racism.
>>54314 How would you even do a sburb simulator? Sburb is both incredible versatile and random (infinite item combination, randomly generated planets and prototypings that can completely change the trajectory of the game) while also being super specific (those random planets and classpects are all tied to the character's character arc), both of which things you can't do in a simulator game. At most you could have a linear game with sburb as the setting
>>54319 Can a black person be racist toward black people? Can an asian person be racist toward other asians? Can a JEW be a REAL NAZI? The facts are, that here >>54308 it is directly stated that she dislikes what comes out of Ectobiology. You can have your own opinion on all this. But I don't see why it's "crazy" to call what Rose and Jade are demonstrating here; Ectobiophobia. You can say you don't agree with me. But saying you don't know where I'm coming from. I think is dishonest at best.
>>54318 >genesis project I didn't know about that. Too bad it seems like development has ground to a halt. >>54323 >Sburb is too open-ended which is why it only works as a linear webcomic instead of an actual game >How would you even do a sburb simulator? Sburb was created as a mechanic in a quest, which is derived from traditional roleplaying games. Open-endedness was the point. We could take all of the mechanics of Sburb, fill in the blanks, and use it as the foundation of a story. For example, prototyping. If we have four premade characters, then we have four premade backgrounds and four sets of decorations which could be used for prototyping. We may have to fence in the simulation just a bit because some players would want to try something stupid like prototyping a spoon, but the average player, not knowing the mechanics of Sburb during their initial prototyping, would likely prototype interesting things around the room. Lets say there are six of these interesting items in each room. From there, we have 31 possible prototypings for each character, or 124 possible prototypings total. Each prototyping affects enemy stats, and players face enemies in the JRPG-style Strife system seen in Homestuck. The 124 number could go up any amount with future updates, and there would be enough potential prototypings in the initial 124 to create a set balance. Dialogue could be conducted in a visual novel format or with old CRPG word catching or both, and things like quests and gameplay where the player is not acting as a server player could be controlled and played as adventure games. The players could even finally get that chat client video function working as a side quest. When it comes to the characters themseves, we would be able to, in an ideal world, use something like the Extended Zodiac Quiz to determine the party composition, if not initial character backgrounds, but those would obviously not be in the initial release or builds. This would eventually enable players to build parties of their own from all of the possible classpects and normal zodiac signs as long as the rule is followed that more than one character bearing any given zodiac sign and/or classpect cannot be in a party. Instead, we could initially have a quiz to match the player with their initial character from a set group of four and build around that. A character dying would give a prompt to either restart the game or throw the player back to the latest checkpoint. If the party has someone with the Time aspect, and that person isn't the one who died, going back to the latest checkpoint will highlight useful objects and dialogue options up to the point that the character died originally. Once the player unlocks Derse and Prospit, each character will have two lives and thus be able to continue from wherever it is they died, provided they can make the trip there via a minigame or something like that. Like I wrote, VN and adventure game mechanics aren't things I'd dislike in a Homestuck game. They would just have to be attached to a central Sburb simulator which would drive the story as long as the players don't become a failed session like the Alpha and Beta kids. We could call the version the characters use Sburb Gamma or Sburb RC (Release Candidate) or something and make the inciting indicent be that one of the players' dads works at the Sburb publisher for this timeline and got a copy for them for their birthday. Whether or not this is true would be based on which character says it.
>>54325 >via a minigame And by that, I don't mean something like a match-four puzzle. It could be a bullet hell.
I am the 666th post. I am SATANAS.
>>54325 I still feel like that's still too many variables and mechanics. But also sburb isn't really my favorite aspect of homestuck in general so ehh
>>54324 Sure, she's ectobiophobic (which is distinct from racism), but I don't think it's that weird. It's unnatural. Her wanting a natural baby is just like how some women want to give birth naturally instead of having a c-section
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>>54330 >but I don't think it's that weird. It's unnatural Ok now answer the next question: Are trans women, women?
>>54331 >spoiler That's an fascinating question. What is a real woman? Biologically speaking, no, they aren't female, but when referring to gender as a social construct, then I suppose a trans woman is a real woman until you find the dick. Like Schrodinger's woman or something. Unless they have an axe wound or something, then well who knows. So I guess the answer is that it depends on the context
>>54331 Nta but sure why not who gives a damn
>>54300 Based and truthpilled. trannyshit always ruins absolutely everything it touches on every single level as a bare minimum in storytelling. The rest of the literary analysis is insightful but its all predicated on that one corrupting desire. Just like real life!
>>54333 >Schrodinger's woman Okay, that really made me laugh. Congratulations, that alone makes me feel like it was worth having this stupid ass conversation with you. I like you.
>>54336 I appreciate it nonny. This conversation was very enjoyable for me
>>54335 The thing is that if a character doesn't even know what sex they are, or have been somehow persuaded out of this assurance, how can they really be assured of anything. Or to put it in story terms, if a conversation can make someone "question their gender identity" then what's to stop the villain/hero having just one conversation with them and having them changing their entire moral structure?
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>>54335 You quoting my post made me realize what they tried to tell me here: >>54305 >Earth-C's inhabitants looking like weird off-brands has always been canon since they have the gene pool off like 4 people. About the following part of my original post: >So basically, after all this time, it turns out that the inhabitants of Earth C all look like weird remixes of the main characters of Homestuck. Apparently, this always bothered Jade, and that's why she wanted her child to be someone "different from this". The reason I wrote it that way was because I wasn't specifically referring to the original babies. I simply originally assumed that after 5,000 years of paradox people interbreeding, this would lead to a different humankind, not so similar to their original ancestors. It's not so crazy to make that interpretation when the credits seem to imply that human society was rebooted and eventually made the movies we had post-2009. Then in the Epilogues we learn that Christianity just happened again, somehow. And then in Homestuck2 itself, we meet none other than...Bernie Sanders... I don't know about you, but he doesn't look like an "Off-Brand Doppelganger" of any of the Beta/Alpha Kids. You all can see that, all this world-building is total bullshit.
>>54340 You're right about there being people that don't look like the kids. Presumably there was enough mutation in the 5000 years to resemble real life. I think there's an undeniably black woman in one of the bonus stories too? Though based on Rose's comment I'm guessing that the majority of people still resemble the main 8 kids
>>54341 >Listen, Kanaya, Jade and I don't have a problem with Bernie Sanders, Neo-Jesus, and Sam Worthington. It's the vast majority of Earth-C Humans the ones we find unpleasant to look at. Despite being just 80% of the population they commit 200% of the crimes.
>>54342 ... Wait... Dane Cook?
>>54343 Dane Cook is definitely an "Off-Brand Doppelganger" of John and Dirk, with a bit of Rose because no glasses.
>>54331 No. >>54333 >Biologically speaking, no, they aren't female /discussion. > but when referring to gender as a social construct “Gender”, as defined by gender theory, is a “social construct” in the sense it does not exist, as Gender Theory is false. Sex does exist, and is what “man” and “woman” have always referred to; an adult male human and an adult female human. John Money’s Gender Theory™ seems to be based on the notion that because societies have certain “norms” about how males and females should/should not behave, that these norms are actually a separate thing called “gender”, which is at the same time an arbitrary social construct and a tangible thing that someone really is. This is all a categorical misunderstanding. These norms are what society has thought a man or woman ought to behave like, not what makes a person a man or woman. Phrases like “you’re not a real man unless you do x” are not literal, but rather shaming a man for not doing what they ought to do. Now, you can have a character be “trans” without it being bad writing if you establish them that way, as opposed to contradicting the thoroughly established “gender identity” of a character who was never intended to be a tranny in the first place, but it cannot be good writing when the story makes out that believing gender theory is sane or healthy because it is based on a fundamentally misunderstanding of human nature. Simple As.
>>54329 I may have been too convoluted. To make it simple, I'll use the events of an initial build (one with the player playing as one premade character from a group of four premade characters throughout the game) before entering the Medium as an example >player starts the game >player takes a quiz to see which character from the party of four they start as, and an invisible thirty minute timer starts >player sees a world map with the location of all of the characters in their session >player controls this character like they're playing an adventure game (either from an isometric or profile perspective) >player interacts with their room, decides their Strife kind, gets to know their character, and gets to know other characters through Pesterchum >dialogue between characters in Pesterchum here (via a text adventure or visual novel, or both) decides initial relations (and, in the future, events prior to the game), which have the greatest immediate effect of deciding the order of server and client players >player interacts with, and potentially fights using the JRPG-derived Strife system or avoids using a basic cover system, their parent and either receives Sburb RC from them or is sent an illegal copy by the character who does receive it from their parent >for gameplay reasons, the player has the option of their character either being the first or last person to enter the session, allowing them to enjoy playing Sburb as their initial character and interacting with their client or playing an adventure game and interacting with their server player >the player's home is a sandbox or semi-sandbox upon which objects can be moved around and deleted, Phrenalia objects may be placed, and the architecture changed via Sburb's Sims-clone UI >upon opening the Cruxtruder, the invisible timer suddenly becomes visible >as the client, the player is helped or hindered by their server as they work to create the cruxite artifact and prototype their sprite >as the client, prototyping as handled by either throwing things you can pick up into the Kernelsprite, or convincing your server to do it for you if the object is too heavy or far away >under certain conditions, the server make pick something to prototype for you, sometimes with malicious intent >from here, the player's character enters the Medium >as the server, everything is as desrcibed, but as the server >deciding to be the first or last player not only gives the player in real life the knowledge of what has to be done, it gives their character this knowledge and allows the player the option to communicate this to whoever they become the server or client to >a player playing a server character may, as long as they have a computer to do so, switch between adventure game/RPG and Sburb gameplay >a player with a device capable of running the Pesterchum client may Pester any online characters at any time >as an easter egg, a player performing a certain set of tasks or with a certain number of completed games may find Rose's GameFAQs and choose whether or not to share it with the other characters In the future, switching between characters would be possible, but the tradeoff is that time continues moving. Other characters will help each other out to continue the game in the absence of the player. This could be semi-directed by the player if they open a bulletin board, but the effectiveness of these commands would be determined by who opened the bulletin board, who is making suggestions, etc.
hoping that other dirkdave anon starts posting here too. they were real chill
>>54350 imagine the smell
>>54351 of dirk's sweat
>>54352 y asshole
>>54284 >wake up >get out of bed >browse /hsg/ >See faggots unironically saying the epilogues are “better than what people think”, and some even defending beyond cancerous It’s time to stop advertising this on cuck/co/.
>>54354 Don’t worry, I counterattacked with arguments about why the writing in Post-Homestuck is trash. Was fun.
>>54311 Somebody mentioned in the previous thread making a “snootgame” for homestuck. I imagine such a visual novel would essentially have several “fix-fics” comprising the routes, alongside several bad ones. Beyond Canon would occur in a separate route from the canon ending if Homestuck, of course, but I think both would be bad endings. It could have a meta element of John using his retcon powers each time you load a save. Maybe it would even start with John seeing the absolute state of Homestuck and deciding to retcon things properly this time.
>>54354 I mean the Epilogues aren't really that bad. I found it entertaining to read a majority of the time at least.
>>54357 Yes we know you are retarded.
>>54358 Do you really think the Epilogues were both bad and boring, if you even read them in the first place, or are you just trolling?
>>54356 no idea what's meant by a snootgame of homestuck but a vn collab by anons about a non-canon timeline going differently would be a lot of fun
>>54359 >if you even read them in the first place Why do you have such a disbelief at the idea that someone would read them and just think they're a giant pile of shit? I enjoyed about three scenes in the entirety of story. And that's about it. I find it more entertaining to read a random hentai from a tag I like, than any whole page of the Epilogues.
>>54360 >he doesn’t know what snootgame is I pity you
>>54361 It's not like I can't believe someone could read and hate the Epilogues, it's just that a lot of people, especially online, like to hate on something they haven't seen/read before just because other people hate them. But yeah the majority of the pages of the epilogues were boring, and I even skipped some of them, but in the end I still found it entertaining. To each their own I suppose.
>>54363 How are you not capable of seeing the link between the fact that they were such drudgery that you had to skip through them, and then thinking the product is somehow quality? It sounds like self delusion man. You might enjoy a scene or two from them, I did, but the epilogues are dogshit. Getting 1 out of 100 is still an F- failure of a final score.
>>54365 I guess I don't have high quality standards for media in general. Usually if something I watch/read keeps me entertained enough to keep reading then I like it. As a continuation of Homestuck, yeah, the Epilogues are pretty shit I guess, but I did have fun reading them
>>54367 well good and bad are subjective. People saying that the epilogues are dogshit and shouldn't be read etc. could be wrong for someone else. What I mean to say is that someone should try the epilogues to see if they like them first instead of asking fellow anons on their opinions on it, because opinions vary from person to person
>>54368 Well, I completely agree. I just don't treat it as the same, saying "read them if you're interested and develop your own opinion on your own" to "imo they're better than what people think and like the epilogues aren't really that bad, my very epic argument for that is that I find them entertaining sometimes, but well, whether it something is good or bad is subjective, btw I possibly don't have standards". If someone says something like "HS2 good" they will obviously get a response from someone saying "No, it is trash wtf", It's an unpopular opinion about a controversial sequel, and if you don't have any way to back it up, it certainly comes across as just talking for the sake of it.
>>54368 >well good and bad are subjective And that’s all that can be done to defend the epilogues.
>>54369 >Well, I completely agree Then the conversation is pointless. There’s a reason we have writing classes, because good and bad writing is not subjective. Not entirely. At most, you can say it is subjective to a degree, but that degree is not so large as people using it as a shield from criticism make out.
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her thighs: strong and healthy
>>54380 Now give her fat tits to balance it out.
>>54380 >skirt nepeta would never
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>>54381 I was trying to restrain my booblust why would you do this to me. >>54383 She discovered Karkat likes them, or something.
>>54384 Heh heh heh.
>>54342 >earth c has a god that will never shut the hell up about SOME old movies from a very specific time period while ignoring the rest >claims is law to know them by name and if you happen to know more than him you get retconned with magic hand powers name a more dystopian earth.
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>>54384 >She discovered Karkat likes them, or something now this I can buy
>>54387 Nobody knows how she got this idea and she won't tell them. Probably saw something on his monitor and took it out of context. The important thing is how likely Karkles is to turn a corner and find Nepeta in pounce mode and getting an eyeful of how healthy the huntress haunches are from behind
>>54388 depends of whether she is going commando, has sexy panties, or veeeery small stockings. *wink wink*
>>54356 It could actually be about some of these ecto-people in Earth-C, so your character isn't John or whatever, but one of the normal residents. Sort of a "you're not the centre of the world" but for the characters of the comic.
>>54253 I really don't understand what the issue is. It's a fucking point and click adventure game. They really don't take this long to make. And they're not even good ones in all honesty. Act 1 is mediocre and Act 2 is essentially just a visual novel
>>54403 As i understand it the initial problem was Hussie is an awful leader and had no real plan as to what to do with it. A story outline maybe but in game development thats kind of jack shit, simple game or not. With his mental degeneration now I assume there are too many people grasping for control trying to take it in diff directions, all with no clear leadership. >>54389 Does give me an idea for after work... I can't do regional prompting for multi character things, but I can do 2 related things and fuse them the old fashioned way like with the giant nep this thread, or Nep/Meu + Roxygen thing last thread.
>>53455 The chaos gods as Troll players >Khorne Ragerr - Maroon Blood - Knight of Rage - Land of Rust and Slaughter >Slaneh Extazy - Fuchsia Blood - Witch of Heart - Land of Masks and Parties >Tzetch Waiyzz - Teal Blood - Heir of Mind - Land of Spires and Schemes >Nurgle Rotign - Olive Blood - Bard of Life(or Doom) - Land of Swamps and Machines Minor chaos gods >Belkor Shadar - Indigo Blood - Prince of Void - Land of Castles and Shadows >Maalal Allend - Lime Blood - Page of Time - Land of Dust and Echoes > Vashtr Foorge - Yellow Blood - Mage of Space - Land of Frogs and Forges
>>54392 I wasn’t thinking it would be a literal parody of snootgame, so it wouldn’t have to have the same theme as snoot game. How did Cavemanon decide on a theme for snot game anyway? Seems like it’s based on the protagonist being anon.
>>54300 you seethed so hard i had to see what the big deal was. I like her design, in fact at this point i think i like the character and everything you said is therefore, invalidated. >le tomboy meaningless buzzword. Also like the other anon said is not racism, is just being weirded out by literal clones of yourself and your friends. >>54331 better question, is the sex good?
>>54418 When I said "you're not the centre of the world" I wasn't so much as saying it'll take that theme from Snoot Game as much as saying that part of the nature of Earth C is that the characters from the comic itself don't have to, and perhaps shouldn't, be main characters in this hypothetical story. What's the point of this new world if they have to basically keep the story going? Their stories are over and they have earned their rest. But even a created world is still a world, and all the normal, petty, lives are lived by the masses of ordinary people that inhabit it. What I'm really trying to think of is a story where there isn't the same story beats as from the comic itself. So it's not the same dick around in the house, install Sburb, etc. I think if a project does have these elements there'd have to be a new take on it. Sort of like I've been talking about with techno-gnosticism (technosticism, if you will) which changes the context of the entire story if it does hit the same beats. I don't know, I'm just spitballing. I've been thinking though about the Robert Holdstock novels about Mythago Wood, where there's a woodland in England that constructs beings based on a sort of underlying construct of myth. Very Jung.
>>54389 KK you're alerting the meowbeast stop breathing so damn hard. hand to god I tried to make the skirt cover more but you basically get 2 options: long trailing one or "might as well be a belt." I guess pretend it got flipped up or something while I work on VantasVision.
>>54422 Cute Nep (and Kark)
>>54420 >is just being weirded out by literal clones of yourself and your friends. The thing is this is what kind of interests me about having an E-C story, because the clones would all think they're totally normal and would have their own desires and thoughts totally removed from anything that happened in a world they weren't a part of.
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>>54422 <hornykat so that's what the blood aspect is about. And nep is heart, pumping blood into his...
>>54424 Wouldn’t they be made by combining the genes of the cast, making them functionally no different from children. They shouldn’t look any more like “bootleg copies” than a normal child.
>>54426 You're right. I was more making the point that the people wouldn't see themselves in that way. Especially after multiple generations.
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Ectobabbies.
>>54420 >you seethed In your dreams, lol faggot. >Also like the other anon said is not racism, is just being weirded out by literal clones of yourself and your friends Selfcest for high-minded people who love themselves.
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I wanted to do something like a first person POV looking around a corner, and I started getting somewhere but that'll take more time to workshop than I have so you get unobscured Legjon.
>>54428 it's probably a bad thing that this turned me on a little
>>54428 >Trolls and humans can’t reproduce together Incorrect. See: >>45787
>>54430 >tail isn't a buttplug come on man you had one job
>>54433 This is a family friendly board sir. As barely clothed as its all been I don't know if it's a good idea to start pumping out actual things-in-holes porn onto here.
>>54434 pretty sure I saw some boobies earlier it's probably fine
If a Giclops was a vegetable, what would it be?
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>>54436 Nevermind, I figured one out.
>>54437 tag yourself I'm the potato imp
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>>54435 Yknow I was galvanized to actually go look at the first pinned thread and wouldn't you know it, the official rules are there. And if there's any thread that's a containment general, it's Homestuck. So here's Nepeta with everything she could stuff in there at once. That said I don't really want to just spam actual smut so you get one in the dark of the night. Seems a good rule of thumb.
>>54440 you're so based for this thx anon
>>54438 I'm imp on the cob
>>54437 Did we ever see what happened when planets are prototyped? Presumably it would just make the underlings visually part plant without affecting them in any way, but I’d like to think they’d sprout little fruit underlings
>>54444 That would make the term grinding a bit more interesting, no?
inspired by a milkshake i drank today
>>54403 >I really don't understand what the issue is apparently the initial studio hussie hired to make the game (it was supposed to be in 3d) took half the money and did jack shit so he has to work on half a budget
>>54403 >Hussie contracts a company (The Odd Gentlemen) through his company (What Pumpkin) to make a Homestuck game and gives them Kickstarter money for it >the company takes the money ($788k out of $2.4m) and agrees to a dev schedule >Hussie puts Homestuck on hold to try gamedev >Hussie thinks development will only take two years, during which he can update Homestuck infrequently >release date is October 2014 >the company allegedly funnels the money into other projects, particularly Neil Gaiman's Wayward Manor (which they also allegedly stole money from) >the company gets noticed by Activision and is contracted for a King's Quest remake through Sierra >the company allegedly funnels most of the money to the remake >Hussie demands to see what they have made for his game >in February 2014, they show him their allegedly playable build of a single room, with a single character doing a single simple motion because the build is bugged to the point of being impossible to play >Hussie gets annoyed at the lack of progress and moves across the country to try and direct things >the company ices him out, physically blocking him from entering the building >Hussie gets pissed >legal battle ensues >the company keeps spending money >after seven months of legal proceedings, the company says they only have $390k left, with $170k having been spent on KQ since proceedings began >the company claims they spent $190k on his game, but it more likely went to NGWM before they landed the KQ contract >as stated before, they were also allegedly embezzling money out of NGWM, and they started work on NGWM when they were supposed to be working on Hussie's game >the company says that making Hussie's game creates too great of a workload and requires too many man hours >legal battle ends >all development is moved in-house and has to restart from scratch >Homestuck has between 2012 and 2014 been under a "gigapause" and received few new updates >Homestuck's fanbase has bled into other fandoms >Hussie is already a bad boss, and he's an even worse director >Hussie blows the remaining KS money >years pass >what's left of Homestuck's fanbase continues to bleed into other fandoms >it has an odd and slight resurgance among young people >^2, Hiveswap, etc become modern Homestuck >Hussie is too detached from his work to care
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>>54455 this is the most tragic story I ever heard. but also, I have so many fucking questions >the company allegedly funnels the money into other projects, particularly Neil Gaiman's Wayward Manor why would they need to funnel money towards other people contracting them. the contractors should also be paying them not the other way around >(which they also allegedly stole money from) they got away with stealing from 2 companies and no one did anything? >legal battle ensues how did hussie not have a clear set case to instantly win? what the fuck is going on? >the company keeps spending money how is this LEGAL?? >Hussie is too detached from his work to care I mean after that fucking nightmare I'd want to move on with my life an onto other projects too
>>54429 i agree that selfcest is high-minded, but none of the HS characters are particularly smart or been shown to have taste, so it makes perfect sense for jade to hate it.
>>54455 Yeah that's all fine and good but that's in the past. What's taking the current team this long? Just assets? It can't be the gameplay
>>54460 first time directing a game + no budget also iirc some of his crew had to learn coding
>>54461 I get the no budget part but we're two Acts in. Shouldn't you have the basic code for a simple point and click adventure game at this point? Really all you're missing is art assets and idk, puzzle design but again, these games aren't even that good so that can't be the reason its taking forever
>>54462 idk I just think budget is the primary reason. you can't hire that many coders or artists to speed things up
>>54463 We need more merch to fund faster development. Give me those god tier quest beddings!
>>54464 we have to buy every single plushie and shirt!
>>54457 >why would they need to funnel money towards other people contracting them Money from lower paying contracts goes to higher paying contracts in a pyramid. This sheds the fat (Hussie) while keeping everyone else. Undoubtedly, no one at TOG thought making a game based on a webcomic would be worth their time. They're now making a musical using American Sign Language. >they got away with stealing from 2 companies and no one did anything? NGWM, even if it is shit and was scrubbed of almost any trace of TOG soon after release, something TOG reciprocated as it also scrubbed any trace of it from itself, actually released and had institutional support behind it because Gaiman is a well respected author. They made games for Activision and Neil Gaiman. Hussie is chump change in the literal sense. >how is this LEGAL?? Hussie is not a good businessman, and the particulars of things are behind NDA. >I'd want to move on with my life an onto other projects too Anon... the only thing he has made since Homestuck is a lesbian Homestuck-adjacent VN about Leftism and his feelings on Homestuck's fanbase with a semi-self-aware self-insert and a really catchy name. He is never, ever moving on from Homestuck, even if he doesn't care about it anymore. If anything, he is constantly seething internally about Toby Fox. The VN is so bad that, despite initially having the same price point as Undertale, Hussie made it free then was so lazy that he left the description for the game, where he said he's asking for it to be made free, unchanged. Hussie is totally checked out, and the combination of money, a New Englander background, and exposure to Leftist politics allows him to spiral into obscurity. >>54460 >What's taking the current team this long Inexperienced developers after a decade of development under an uncaring and unstable boss on a shoestring budget. As I wrote, Homestuck's fanbase is very small nowadays, and Homestuck from almost 15 years ago is not Homestuck from today.
Much of the 'odd gentlemen embezzlement' story is hearsay that HEAVILY favors Hussie but little is known. https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2020/10/03/the-hiveswap-fiasco/ This article is very well researched for those who truly must rake through decade old drama.
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Well, that hasn't happened in a while
>>54458 that and it's not even really fully selfcest, what with everyone being combinations of you and your friends, instead of full clones of them. It's more like incest really, since they're all kinda the progenitors of the new generation of humans
>>54455 Any proof of this? >>54466 >semi-self-aware self-insert It’s funny. He correctly noted that his fan base was composed largely of crazy cultish lunatics, and yet he doubled down on the political cult that lead to said behavior among his fans in the first place or seems to have at any rate. I can only hope he’s left carlos that all behind. >>54467 >Much of the 'odd gentlemen embezzlement' story is hearsay that HEAVILY favors Hussie Yes that’s what I suspect
>>54471 just go to /trash/ and search for vriska
>>54408 Any thing I can add on to this
>>54473 Denizens. I will not elaborate.
>>54466 >If anything, he is constantly seething internally about Toby Fox ah you are one of those
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Chat logs and dialogue shouldn't include typing quirks unless the characters are actually typing. Outside of that, it should be written normally.
>>54476 But then we would miss out on most typing quirks in Act 6
>>54476 I can understand logically why one wouldn't, but also think that using the quirk often helps keep to the character better. Their personalities are highly tied to it. Writing Karkat with perfect normal text and grammar sounds harder than the alternative
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Came to me in a dream. Tzbangs...
>>54480 Image gets worse the lower you look.
>>54481 Perfection. I debated complete stick figure but Terezi with no blind girl pyrump feels wrong. Gotta pick an ass and stick with it eventually when you're dicking around on lunchbreak.
>>54476 i like to imagine vriska saying "8" between words
>>54482 No, I mean that the head is okay, then the body is kinda bad but still sort of connected, then you get to bellow the waist and it's not even from the same picture. If you're going to post slop, don't post slop that's so shit.
>>54484 You mistake me using whining as a springboard for real acnowledgement, sorry. As I will do now. I hope your transition from halfchan goes smoothly. There keeps being clamor about that prisonbound fanventure but has anyone here read it who can say something more about it than fapbait? Sexless puritanism larping is a path to sad threadcopping but id like to hear more than just waifuism.
>>54486 It's been a while since I've read it but I liked it. The main cast is charming enough, it gets to a point where you're intruiged fast enough and it looks fantastic. The main character is especially charming, she's very clueless. And yeah I guess the girls are hot too but that's not really that important to me
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>>54488 All glubbers are exclusively for Karkat
>>54489 very true and very based
>>54466 >he is constantly seething internally about Toby Fox. ?
>>54480 ... Shit I need to draw that,
>>54498 For all the various eye covering fashions Terezi ends up with I really can't recall too many with the long bangs style. Even more surprising given the UT/DR overlap with their man chars using it.
>>54476 no way they are fun and add personality
>>54497 the average toby schizo projects his anger over homestuck on hussie, and claims he is the one upset and jealous, when in reality, the real world i mean, hussie and toby are friends and have referenced each others work in the past.
apparently one of the characters in Deltarune is based on Hussie and you can rape her in it so idk if Toby really liked him
>>54464 >implying HICU are spending those shekels on gamedev I think not. >>54477 That would be the least of Act 6’s issues. >>54505 t.hussie seething
>>54467 The end result of Gio's articles doesn't answer where the $788k went. What it does provide is a, likely founded, idea that the alleged embezzlement and fraud happened because Hussie didn't provide a working design document until the year of release and that Hussie is a terrible businessman because he had the naive idea that if he funneled money that wasn't part of the initial contract into a secret deal with TOG, TOG, who by his account asked him for additional work on Homestuck until they could work on Hiveswap, would make a separate team for Act 7 which wouldn't interfere with Hiveswap and would be able to work in tandem with them, and a terrible boss because Hussie is a creative who is unable to manage other people. Regardless, TOG, when pressed to actually make a game for an existing contract, didn't do so and admittedly had little intention after being offered King's Quest, as shown in their interview, and continued to spend money despite being given orders to stop, turning $788k plus however much else Hussie had blown on Act 7 into a granted sum of $220k which Hussie then mismanaged yet succeeded in spite of until he bombed Hiveswap to make it 2D soon after the release of Undertale and in complete contradiction to his previous statements on WP's development pipeline. The TOG story is sympathetic for Hussie from its source, and is generally sympathetic to Hussie because he was naive, but what Hussie did after receiving the $220k is obviously something not worth being sympathetic to. It implies what Hussie could have done had TOG let him into the studio. >>54470 >Any proof of this? ipgb's now deleted release on what was given by Hussie through Kickstarter, and Gio's articles on Hiveswap. Some of what I wrote are just assertions, however. I should have made a longer writeup, but I didn't want to put in the effort and just went on what I remembered. >>54497 Coincidentally, Hussie had the entire game switched to 2D very shortly after the release of Undertale, and many characters from Psycholonials are ambiguous compositions of people within Hussie's life, including Toby Fox. Calling it seething was too far, but Psycholonials and his history of pettiness give the impression that he has complicated feelings about Toby Fox and the success of Undertale/Deltarune in relation to Homestuck/Hiveswap.
>>54508 >Coincidentally, Hussie had the entire game switched to 2D very shortly after the release of Undertale Pretty sure that was just for budget reasons. The original webcomic used pixelated art, so if he was copying Undertale why wouldn’t he make the sprites pixelated?
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The words pixellated and Hiveswap dinged around like a screensaver in my head until you get Chahut's hefty 16-bitties. I think the player has failed some sort of quest trigger. Or succeeded.
>>54489 I’m surprised how many Koreans draw homestuck fan art these days. >>54512 Pixel AI art generally looks obviously AI than regular AI art, I notice. Lower resolutions means less things can go wrong I guess.
>>54517 Resolution's part of it. If you're not localgen you can only start at a few preset ones which will always naturally limit compositions without a ton of fiddling. But just making it smaller doesn't automatically make higher quality, that one was put through a second step that upscales it and adds more detail at the higher resolution after all. Rest assured the first output looks worse. I think a larger part is mental. Pixel style gens are far less commonly done, so it doesn't trip the inclination to start hyperanalyzing it and getting worked up as fast as the majority anime-realism type does. People try way too hard to either love it or hate it. Luckily I don't want to make money with it so perfectionism doesn't matter when playing with a toy. Too many words, not enough Homestuck. If Homestuck were made looking back at a more current generation internet instead of the IM/Forum one Hussie was from, do you think they'd all be constantly tredmilling through different chat programs as the previous gets somehow enshittified? You could kind of replicate the natural hurdle of needing to be at the PC to do Hosting things by having Sburb act weird and shitty depending on what phone you have and needing to go get a different one that a Guardian has or the like.
>>54508 >Coincidentally, Hussie had the entire game switched to 2D very shortly after the release of Undertale after TOG stole half the budget he had to make the game from scratch on his own with his own team
>>54363 I don't need to read first hand thatJade knotted Rose to know I would not want to enjoy whatever abomination of a narrative brought that into existence. Unless it was porn.
>>54525 Of course it sounds bad if you reduce it to "Jade knotted Rose" instead of actually describing what happens "Jade's story is about being doomed to be alone due to her aspect, which eventually leads to her taking drastic measures (exacerbated by the Candy universe's inherent non-importance leading to pointless drama) and we get to see the social ramifications of it" like I feel like that's actually interesting. It's, you know, a story? Would HSBC be better if nothing bad ever happens and all your favorite ships stayed together and there was no drama?
>>54526 It's a dogshit and contrived story where all drama arises from terrible fetishistic retcons forced through by that deranged troon Kate who manipulated and backstabbed to get to their position and turned something people loved into a disgusting ego trip that ended abruptly in the ground. You probably think Jade had a tail too.
>>54526 Nope, still sounds bad. "Its a commentary on bad fanfic" isn't a justification either. If they wanted to do that they should have it be its own story with characters based on but still distinct from the homestuck counterparts, similar to how psychocolonials was based on Hussie's experience with the fandom but the characters in it weren't literally Hussie and his fandom. >its interesting there's a multitude of other interesting things a writer could do besides giving Jade a dog dick and having her impregnate Rose with her gross dog dick behind Kanaya's back. If there truly had to be a soap-opera infidelity, you could have had Dave cheat on Karkat with her and get Jade pregnant with his normal human dick instead of, y'know... A DOG DICK
>>54526 Jade knotted rose.
>>54531 Isn't she a party slut as well? Who can tell how many others she's knotted.
>>54529 You know you can still jack off to Jade vagina porn even if she does have a dog dick in the sequel comic nobody reads, right? >>54531 She did and it was probably awesome
>>54534 >You know you can still jack off to Jade vagina porn even if she does have a dog dick in the sequel comic nobody reads, right? Are you retarded?
Need Us ade in an oversized t shirt, and panties with a tasteful bulge.
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>>54535 I'm talking about fictional characters having dog dicks, clearly there must be something wrong with my brain to cause this so yeah sure
>>54537 Let's see if you can answer this question. Why is it a problem for people that Jade has Dogdick in HS2?
Holy samefagging. I think we somehow picked up the schizo from the aco thread. Don't know if we've got the same options for quarantining them though besides not responding.
>>54538 I don't know, it doesn't really bother me. Though I get that people are weirded out or disgusted by the idea, especially if they've been following the comic for a long time >>54539 What aco schizo?
>>54540 >I don't know If you don't know, why do you act like you know the reason, then? "I don't know the reason, so I'm going to assume is for this and said it"
My issue is that it's basically a shitpost made canon, and were meant to see it and the fallout as emotionally resonant storytelling.
Yep, definitely them. Don't feed it, its just going to regurgitate endless semantics instead of accepting noone wants to celebrate and cater to their disgusting fetish. Going to see if 8chan has a filtering system so they can burn themselves out in silence.
>>54544 I just wanna say I'm not samefagging. And I don't even like the dog dick (or at least not that I would call it a fetish) I just don't mind the story that results from it. If we're all done regurgitating the same topic, let's just move on
>>54545 How about you *move on* your mouth to my dick, because your aspect is Mind, cuz you don't Mind. And Mind Players are Sluts, so the idea of you sucking my dick now is interesting because I don't mind the story that results from it.
>>54546 Awesome
>>54546 well if anything we have really to go by, Jade is the sluttiest character in maybe all of the Homestuck Continuity, so if anything Space would be the sluttiest aspect
>>54548 Terezi is literally the sluttiest of all the characters in the original webcomic. Her entire Post-Act 5 story revolves around having relationships in every quadrant with the other characters, and her life revolves around that, to the point that she took advantage of the retcon to ask John to fix her love life. Jade dated Davesprite in one timeline and that's about it. Terezi on the other hand had something with Gamzee.
>>54549 damn that really is true. why is the blind chick so damn horny?
>>54551 Literally percieves the world via taste and smell, the most sexually perverted senses.
>>54549 Epilogue Jade is literally a promiscuous party girl.
>>54554 >Epilogue Not canon.
>>54555 true it isn't canon, but it does exist as a continuation of Homestuck so I headcanon some of the events in the epilogues are canon, slutty adult jade is one of headcanons
Anon in the Thread: >Why people care so much abour Jade having a dogdick?! It's a sequel that nobody reads, you can just ignore it and jerk off to porn of Jade playing with her pussy! Also, the same Anon probably: >Let me use the Epilogues/HS2 as my evidence that Jade is canonically sluttier than Terezi. >>54556
>>54557 The thing is if he does bring in the post-comic stuff you still have Terezi of the comic PLUS her fucking John.
We need some kind of new set of names for the characters in the strangely named epilogues as neither the story nor characters in it have any resemblance to the comic called Homestuck. Then they can talk about their independent story without confusing it with the actual material and conversation around it. Less muddied waters since theres no crossover between them.
>>54558 Mind Players want SEX Heart Players they rather looking for a romantic relationship that satisfies them. It makes sense when you look at Dirk and Nepeta. Neither of them is a slut, they just dream of a romance that fulfills what they're looking for. So it's possible that Latula exclusively loves Minuta because he has two huge dick.
so what powers does a doom player have?
>>54557 oh no I'm the one who was saying jade was sluttier. We're two different anons. Jade in the epilogues gets railed and/or rails (because of the aforementioned horrible dog penis) a lot. like a slut. Homestuck is canon to the Epilogues, so by use of the transitive property, the opposite would also be true? That or the Epilogues take place in some sort of doomed timeline or something.
>>54557 "I don't mind dog dick" anon here, I'm not the other guy :) I've happily exited the conversation
>>54561 they aren't really shown tbh. Sollux is apparently a mage of doom (which I didn't know until now), and he does jackshit
>>54563 Yes very very HAPPY. Because now you are HAPPILY sucking my dick: >>54546 You don't have to talk anymore, I know very well that you are using your mouth for other things.
>>54565 >t. jade
>>54561 It really seems like they don't get anything. Sollux gets so little screentime you could just pick any small thing he does and pretend its Doom related. Mituna, like any dancestor, may as well not exist at all.
>>54568 those are some massive glubbers she has
>>54568 Can you make an image with Big Feferi and Small Karkat?
>>54572 Not him (god we're going to have to start calling ourselves NAIguy and CAIguy or something) but how big? In whatever dimension, be they sane ones or not.
>>54569 Apparently today is World Whale Day! >>54572 I would never prompt a dude
>>54574 >I would never prompt a dude based as hell
>>54574 also are you willing to prompt Feferi and Aranea kissing?
>>54573 not him, but like I think Feferi should be 2-3 times his size
>>54573 The proportions in the top and bottom images are fine, I just want a large lady with a smaller guy. I know using AI to generate two characters together is kinda difficult so I'm okay if it's more like >>54422 >>54574 >>54575 >I would never prompt a dude But small guy being dominated by large woman is good
>>54578 yeah but i can get not wanting to see some guy whilst i'm trying to jerk off. seems a little bit gay
>>54576 NAI v4 struggled a lot with doing multiple Homestuck characters at the same time (especially a human and a troll), usually mixing details together or accidentally swapping colors around. Looks like v4.5 is a bit better in this regard.
>>54580 nice, looks pretty good. thanks NAIanon
>>54578 Noted, probably take a whack at after work then. Got an idea i was working on already I think I can turn into this. For discussions sake do we think Condy's absurd stature was a Fuchsia thing or a Thief of Life thing? Even at a conservative estimate shes like 8 fucking feet tall.
>>54582 it's probably a fuchsia thing, since I don't think the Condesce played Sgrub so she wouldn't have an aspect. It was Meenah who played sgrub or whatever it was called on beforus, and she's the thief of life
>>54584 Its usually shown that she's got some attachment to it, kinda like the Demoness did. If not in literal Sgrub given abilities then in powers she gave herself with technology
>>54564 >>54567 yeah sollux and mituna were who I had in mind. I get doom is about something like sacrifices and the inevitable but we never see anything powers-wise iirc
>>54585 I guess so. I still don't think those powers made her as tall as she was
>>54586 You could warp it into something about creating or bending rules/inevitabilties like with Sollux's ~ath coding but itll always be way more fanon than anything else. Just got no evidence. That said working from that as a baseline is fun. Make the rules and break the rules.
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>>54582 The condesce isn't that much bigger than Meenah in HSBC. I think it's just those fuchsia genes >>54583 I'm not picky but big is good
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>>54589 Fixed Sassacre standing too low. The condesce really isn't as big as people make her out to be. She's like a head taller than the average adult I guess? That's within human biology
>>54589 >BC Lol In the actual material shes almost never the same size twice which is why theres really only an average to go off. Theres some tumblr post still floating around that cataloged all her appearances and how wonky it is
>>54591 Well I based it off of her sprite during Collide, which gives us the most "objective" scale I suppose?
>>54589 mark twain is so lucky bros...
>>54593 I never really liked the Condesce before but DAMN now I get it
>>54592 so she's about three Roxys tall? But then again, they're all rendered in a symbolic manner, so who knows how tall the Condesce really is
>>54593 Yeah, I know. Evil tall women are my weakness. Thanks, Becky Sucrose. Also, did the AI not manage to give her her glasses? I really like them...
>>54595 The shortest appearances are around mid-upper 6' while the most out there obviously symbolic ones are damn near 20' iirc.
>>54596 This definitely isn't what you meant, but I just remembered one of my favorite panels.
>>54598 okay these actually go kinda hard though
>>54590 >>54589 You think the kids saw her as gigantic because they were still kids, and always saw adults as being big?
>>54600 that would make a lot of sense actually, seeing as though we're always looking through a kid's perspective in the comic
>>54474 Fine. Khorne gets Snapping Turtles Nurgle gets Toads Tzeetch gets Axolotls Sandesh Salamanders Belakor Newts Maala gets Oolms Vashtor gets Monitors
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>>54598 I was trying to remember the last time I did any Condy that wasnt compeltely unfit for non degens and remembered this one nearly a year old. Still pretty wonky but I remember deciding that yeah she absolutely would have an ass out version of the suit. Spoilered for jank and ass indeed being out
>>54603 built for sexual destruction (of me)
>>54602 Those are consorts fren
>>54510 >>54523 >Pretty sure that was just for budget reasons >after TOG stole half the budget By multiple accounts, 3D Act 1 had reached bugtesting, and Act 2 was starting development. TOG stealing the budget was months beforehand, and WP NYC was already established, funded (to a degree), moving to a new office, and, by Hussie's admission, had a 3D development pipeline and its own adventure game engine built on top of Unity. For years, Hussie and WP had promised, showed off, and even demo'd a 3D Act 1, and Hussie threw all of it away and dissolved WP NYC to make a 2D game. He went against his own words that WP NYC had made an efficient development pipeline, and, while he did address the budget concern at the point of WP NYC's dissolution, he made a thinly veiled implication that TOG had misled him when it comes to cost efficiency for 3D games.
>>54588 >something about creating or bending rules/inevitabilties > Make the rules and break the rules that's a really cool idea. this will be my new headcanon for what they can do
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>>54582 >>54578 CG: I STILL DON'T SEE WHAT YOU GET OUT OF THIS HUMAN SUNLIGHT EXPOSURE. "IT'S NOT KILLING ME" DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT ENJOYABLE. CC: You mean "KRILLING M--E" 38D CG: I CAN DROWN MYSHELLF ANYTIME. CG: FUCK. CC: 38D!!! - This got WILDLY away from me and my reach has far exceeded my grasp. But I did have a lot of fun. Even if I am a SolFef truther. She is roughly 3.4x Karkles Tall. Next time I should stick to porn where I can use the size difference to hide fucky perspective via smothering.
>>54609 Hell yeah. I wasn't expecting her to be this big
>>54534 <You know you can still jack off to Jade vagina porn This is the paultry excuse of a defence the Beyond Cucked fan has for dog dick <She did and it was probably awesome And this is the reason why the Beyond Cucked fan defends dog dick. >>54538 “Because it’s revolting shit that has no reason for being in the story beyond appealing to mentally deteriorated faggots” is more than reason enough. >>54544 Are people really unaware of how easy it is to doctor (you)s in mspaint?
>>54611 Why would I samefag about a topic that I don't actually care about lol
>>54610 A smarter decision would've been to make it viewed completely from the side so that she could be at a sitting posture on a sandbank or swimming horizontally under the water and he could either float above or sit in her lap. But I already had one piece made and if you couldn't tell by the AI usage I'm lazy and stubborn. It's pretty weird sometimes about making the perspective depth you would get from someone sitting up but viewed from above.
>>54605 Then I don't really know for denizen most I cansay is that either Khorne or Tzeetch got Abraxus
>>54614 Make each a type of greater demon maybe
>>54615 That's more 40k rather than Hermetic. I can list my idea for Order(read. None chaos) Gkds Sburb players
>>54559 Jones Always-a-Man-Bert Gayed breadsticker Roza lal-on-dee knott Jadog your harlets Your turn
nice, we're almost at the 888 posts goal jannies moved the 4chan thread to /trash/. we are officially garbage!
>>54625 wait was there a new thread?
>>54626 yeah, didn't last very long though
>>54629 was it the vriska one or are we talking about a different one?
So is op gonna make the 888th post with a link to the new thread?
>>54631 the vriska one yeah >>54632 that's what he says he wants here >>54031
Include the Triclopses in the next OP!
I remember araneaposting in the last Homestuck thread on 4ch. i'd do it here to, but this place is way slower and I wouldn't want to clog up the thread is shit(posting) about her making me spider-man the way I shoot webs all over the place
>>54625 If there's any additions/adjustments to be made to this >>54072 OP template before the next thread, now's the time to mention 'em.
>>53579 >>54643 I know the main thread header has to be vrisk but I vote the peanuts one up in there too for being based
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>>53895 Forgot id done one with anger storage units while testing for the not porny one.
>>54643 I'm ready to post the thread when we reach 887 replies, just in case anybody is wondering
>>54643 >>54655 no arguments here. looks good let's get show on the road
So aranea or Vriska
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>>54659 Aranea >888 NEW THREAD EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!: >>54657 THIS IS 8CHAN DOT MOE
If John, Dave, Rose, and Jade were to play a game on the Sega Saturn together, what would it be?
>>53016 >>53026 i wouldent make it the very end but i would make act 6 much shorter like hussie originally planned >have an extra photo in the pre-cascade album thing >its a scene of jade and dave both making shit in the alchemeter while on the phone with eachother >jade combines 4TH WALL && PROBLEM SLEUTH POSTER >it makes one of the windows from problem sleuth but the inside is blacked out >dave gets the code and combines it with his bathroom mirror >it makes a stable portal between both windows >this is used by rose and dave in cascade meeting up with jade on the battleship right before the tumor goes off >they send the code for the portal to the trolls who do the same >this way they can develop and train as fast as possible


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