>>33106 something positive

>>33106 It's conceptually good and has certain design decisions that improve upon the Adventure formula. Most of the stages are great. Sonic, Tails, Omega, Silver, and Blaze have decent controls. The DLCs have some good extra content. The music is obviously great. The story, even if it's incoherent nonsense for the most part, can be exciting, emotional, and memorable, and it has some good moments for some of the characters. The prerendered cutscenes look cool. It's broken and clunky because it clearly needed more work and better management, but considering all of its aspects beyond the technical stuff and the things that were left unfinished, it's definitely among the most interesting and exciting games in the series.

>>33110 Hopefully it gets recompiled one day like Unleashed did. Would love to play it with the bugs and load screens fixed.

>>33111 Same. Supposedly now that there are tools to do that for Xbox 360 games it should be easier

>>33106 His world

It was arguably the last time Sonic earnestly tried to be cool. >>33115 How long do you think we'll have to wait to get a recomp?

>>33106 It was definitive proof positive that Sega has no idea what its doing half the time.

music was kickass

>>33138 No idea

I thought it was neat how the Xbox 360 version tried to handle the game at 60fps, since most footage online shows it running at 30. Granted the console cant seem to handle it and the FPS goes to shit when there's plenty of physics interactions, but impressive visually for an early launch title. Just a shame it suffered from an incredibly rushed production.

>>33139 >SA1 was developed over 2 years >Has hubworlds, NPCs, missions and a plot revolving around an elder god that's going to destroy everything >Sonic Team decided to replicate this with Sonic 06 by developing a very similar game in the same amount of time

>>33106 It had potential Ok for real, I think the level design is good for the most part, and I like the gems. And I like how every character plays the same while having different abilities. The music is great, level themes are pretty cool, and some elements of the story are good

>>33153 Yeah it's not just development time that's the problem, although SA1 would have benefited from more time as well

>>33153 I was going to say the missions were an SADX addition (unless you count the few Dreamcast DLCs) but also those missions sucked and the missions in 2006 are even worse so whatever it's still a fair comparison

>>33106 With some tweaks, I think the story could have been stellar. Eggman's time traveling portal should have been done with Mephiles's sceptor in hand, since using just one emerald brings up too many plotholes. They can just break the sceptor later. The scenes with Elise were weird but salvageable. Sonic should not have had explicit feelings for her. He's just saving the princess. She can still resurrect him with a kiss, this is pretty normal for Sonic. The trials were dumb and could've been replaced with actual levels. Since the choice never mattered anyway. Blaze's entire appearance made no sense for the story and should have been introduced separately or removed entirely. I honestly liked all the interactions Mephiles had with Silver and Shadow. Probably the strongest part of the plot. Besides this, the major problems were entirely related to poor graphics, gameplay design, and loading times.

>>33165 >since using just one emerald brings up too many plotholes I think this applies to double Chaos Control as well. I feel like 2006's time travels were written with some limitations in mind, since they only jump to specific points in the timeline, but they never tell us what those limitations are >Sonic should not have had explicit feelings for her. He's just saving the princess. Isn't that already the case though? That's how I interpreted it, he's not in love with her, it's one sided and part of Elise's story is accepting that Sonic is eventually going to leave. And when she accepts that she finds out Sonic improved her life even if he isn't with her anymore

>>33153 You left out TWO important details: >SA1 was only on one console that Sega themselves developed. >The original SA1 i.e. the Japanese version was way buggier than the International version. The desire to hit the Christmas season everybody.

>>33172 At least SA1 got some revised rereleases. Still it's kinda funny how both games are similar in both their design philosophy as well as some of their technical issues (like glitchy collisions), they seemed to have kinda figured out collision problems with SA2 for example

>>33153 you forgot how this shit was dev for 2 brand new consoles, one which was notoriously hard to develop for and then halfway through they had a massive chunk of the main team separated so they could shit out secret rings since the wii couldn't port 06 over

I can say three > The OST (duh) > Silver The Hedgehog > Being able to play as Blaze in a 3D Mainline game with her fire moveset don't get me wrong, the game is ass but gotta give credit where credit is due.

>>33329 Blaze has the most fun controls of all the characters, too bad she doesn't have more (good) stages. I also find it interesting that they put the Homing Attack on X like Unleashed/Frontiers for her but not for Sonic and Shadow

>>33106 Potential.

the way this game handles multiple characters is the way all sonic games should handle them

>>34971 Execution was poor with most characters and besides the 3 main hedgehogs they have very limited movesets, but I agree. Give everyone the same foundation and differentiate them from there. SA1 is the closest to that in 3D aside from this game, excluding Big and the side stuff like the Tornado

>>34971 But why though? Why would you want to play as one character just to randomly switch to different one midway through? Even Heroes felt snappier when it did that shit

>>35011 I thought he meant the way they control, not being forced to change characters. I still prefer this game's character switching over SA2's though, that feels even more jarring for some reason, even though the characters individually feel a lot better

>>35011 makes the levels feel more distinctive rather than being a glorified simon says the whole way through

>>35151 How do you feel about Color Powers, Emerald Powers, and Doom Powers?

>>35218 the doom powers are cool, pretty meh on color powers and emerald powers. doom powers are the only ones that automatically change your gameplay style so theres the connection i guess... not really your point here but i do think doom blast & doom wings should be part of sonics moveset let alone shadows.