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Fear & Hunger Anonymous 01/02/2025 (Thu) 04:11:12 Id: edefd1 No. 1056543
So I finally got 1&2 after it spending years under the radar for me, I should note I had zero idea of these games besides them being girmdark. >Game is a horror turn based RPG >Big point of combat is dismemberment <Enemies can very easily do the same to you including blinding the party >Shit is also based on the toss of a coin >Items are also RNG <RNG will rape you harder the enemies will >Grinding much like last remnant will get you nowhere >Choosing your starting character and knowing to use them is the difference between a good run and bad run >You will be raped <In the literal sense >Sound design is excellent >Each time you get into combat you feel the insane risk of each encounter >The Eclipse style monsters and tier events >Some enemies can be talked to while giving you a thrashing >NPCs range from insane to tragic <You can recruit several >Game might be more obtuse then a Souls game in certain regards >Piss easy to absolutely fuck yourself over >Items can be used to fuck over enemies or bypass things in the dungeon >Multiple endings I'm going to start 2 soon but I thoroughly enjoyed 1.
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>>1712667 Thanks for pointing these out. I'm still working on the Dungeon Nights update but I decided to fix these up. >Phase for Le'garde now costs 10MP >Since Walk on Water doesn't require any MP to use when using it at the salmonsnake pool, I just changed it's MP cost to 0. >no more infinite stones from the Cavedweller minecarts. <He won't fight in the cell because it'd be a new encounter and the others just use the ones for having Le'garde in the party when meeting him? I'm not sure what you mean by this could you provide some screenshots for clarification. <lmao Maybe the boys were enjoying the show? Was bleeding after 2nd sexing. Not sure if intended or if anything can reasonably be done about her inconsistency. Yurifags might just have to wear Salmonsnake Souls. There is a specific switch that activates when D'arce accepts a proposal for the girl. But the switch is skipped on future proposals, I fixed this so it won't happen anymore. <Another issue: Having a party member use Steal, whether taught from a scroll or on ex-party leaders. It seems to get entangled with skill use by the party leader. i.e. Using Run or Talk, also procs Steal messages. It's not a permanent effect and I'm guessing might be vanilla behavior but haven't tested too much. I think it's vanilla behavior, certain skills will activate a {SKILLS BATTLE} switch alongside the switches for having steal/run/etc active. I'm guessing since all these skills share one script that can only activate once per turn, it just runs all the actions together. Not sure if I can do anything about it since there is a limit of 20 tabs you can put in the troop encounters and making a tab for each skill might result of there not being enough tabs for the more complicated battles. <This gave me the idea to use Passages in The Void. Which let me escape back to Collapsed Mines. I'm certain it worked like that because I'd used it to get Blue Sin earlier. Don't know if it's documented already, but would be surprised if it wasn't. Seems to be a bug/oversight. The book takes note of where you are so it can return you to that specific place, but there is an exception if the "test_sword5" switch is activated by pulling out the sword. There switch never gets turned off after this so you will always return to the collapsed mines from now on. Fixed this by having PoM disable test_sword5 after you come back from this scenario so you will return to your original position in future usages of the book. Thanks for pointing out this bug in particular because I found a few other bugs involving PoM that needed fixing: >Reexamined the Book of Forgotten Memories, found a bug that would have caused sanity to stop decreasing, hunger to stop rising, and possibly other effects due to it activating a switch called "No Decreasing" and then using an exit processing command before deactivating the No Decreasing switch. >If you read the Passages of Mahabre and go to "book Mahabre" without pulling the blue sin out, if you read the PoM while you're already in Book Mahabre, when your time rounds out you will just be teleported back into Book Mahabre again and be trapped there. >Opening the westernmost chest in Book Mahabre from the right side would cause a graphical error on the easternmost chest. >rapidly transitioning between the two book Mahabre maps or interacting with/opening a chest while the mahabre timer runs out could cause the script to return you home to bug out and leave you trapped in Book Mahabre. Tried to fix it by simply stopping the timer while you're transitioning maps and interacting with objects. >Everyone's default dialogue was overridden by their Void dialogue though, so maybe they didn't come back right. lmao When you go to a new map, there is a script running parallel that activates a switch for the location you're in and deactivates all others. I don't bother to put in a deactivation for the void map switch thinking I wouldn't need it. I don't think I will since I fixed the PoM bug but I added it in just in case. Patched up all the typos you pointed out and found a couple more like a crevice being referred to as a crevasse.
>>1718510 >a crevice being referred to as a crevasse While crevasse is generally used in reference to massive cracks in glaciers or packed snow in the mountains, technically it can just mean a really large crevice. Was it really big?
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>>1718533 The 3rd screencap shows the girl standing in front of the crevice. It is described as small, and you have to crawl through it instead of walking through.
>>1718743 >The 3rd screencap shows Please excuse me, I'm a retard.
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>>1718510 >I'm not sure what you mean by this My bad. It's just an empty question. Guessing about the reasoning of a design decision that was probably made by Jasanon anyway. I'm not dissatisfied with the way it works now. Like character-wise and everything, it checks out to me. Was just wondering if the decision to do it that way was influenced by something as simple as: Vanilla Rag never starts a fight in the cell so there wasn't an event of that type there to edit. I wanted to check all possible Ragnvaldr & Le'garde interactions for anything broken first. Expected to find a broken fight somewhere, but I did not. Everything seemed in order. Admittedly, I've only passed lead to Le'garde with Ragnvaldr in party as D'arce. So I've potentially missed something. Rag seemed to factor not just Le'garde's fucked up body & supposed amnesia but the old party leader too. If it were different dependent on the old leader I'd guess the break down would be: D'arce/Girl = Leave and Cahara/Enki = Fight. I do plan to try it as Enki sometime soon, but I'm not expecting it to lead to different results. Just an early goal for next time I play as him. Got a Le'garde & Penance'd Cahara save and a Girl & Le'garde save currently. The Penance save was to see if it'd cause any problems on it's own like the armor becoming removable, the portrait reverting, being able to get a second armor, or Le'garde inheriting the broken dick, but no such issues. I'm gonna go ahead with Ending B as Le'garde out of it. Girl & Le'garde is to check incest, if Le'garde will leave with Girl for E2 (unexpected), and Girl getting Yellow King. Want to check Marriage and Fusion as party members. So far just flirted with it. Forming one as Le'garde puts Marriage in the wrong party slot but they do stay party leader. Still the one effected by overworld hazards or learning by scrolls & hexen, but they'll be in the wrong spot. No additional changes if Fusion is made. Vanilla thing but "intervined" in the forming Marriage text. Also want to check if Le'garde can trade a second Kid Demon to Pocketcat (not sure if I can pull off the setup for this one). And two Girl passed lead to Le'garde, one virgin, one not. Ideally I'd also like to try leading Girl is consensually pregnant before Le'garde is leader, but already believe it'd be impossible. Speaking of pregnancy, what does Motherly Whispers actually do? Only tried using it in the old version, but it seemed like it was equivalent to Loving Whispers for first use and no effect on subsequent uses. 1 time limb restore? I did find one more thing so far. This Priest in Inner Hall version C is giving the dialogue prompt for Girl to Le'garde (Girl was never in this party). The other in the shot speaks normally. Only time I've chatted with any of these guys while not Girl. So don't know if it'd be the same in the other versions of the area or if the one I killed for the robe was also bugged.
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>>1718533 >Want to check Marriage and Fusion as party members. So far just flirted with it. Forming one as Le'garde puts Marriage in the wrong party slot but they do stay party leader. Still the one effected by overworld hazards or learning by scrolls & hexen, but they'll be in the wrong spot. No additional changes if Fusion is made. Vanilla thing but "intervined" in the forming Marriage text. It seems like I forgot to include exceptions for if Le'garde is a marriage himself when deciding how to rearrange party members. I don't know if anyone noticed, but I changed things around so that each character has preferences on where their followers go. For example, if you're playing as D'arce, she will put Le'garde closer to the front of the party, but if you're playing as Ragnvaldr he will put Le'garde towards the back of the party. Replaced "intervined" with "intertwined." Fixed the issue with the priest.
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Finished making the girl playable in Dungeon Nights. Next is coming up for a route for her so you can take her to prom.
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>>1697090 >Do you have any ideas for Girl's S Ending? Current idea is this: In the normal mode, the girl is looking for Le'garde because in the mod she is aware that he is her father (it's left more ambiguous in the vanilla game) and she feels she cannot survive for long without an adult caretaker. But in hard mode, Le'garde is always dead and none of the other adult heroes are available to recruit. So her mission in the hard mode is to find a new father to adopt her. The canidates I had in mind were: Trortur, Nosramas, and Buckman. The girl can ask for one of them to be her new father as they will agree if certain conditions are met depending on the potential father. For Trortur, the girl can convince him to adopt her by defeating The Tortured One and/or Valteil in the past and bringing Trortur to their defeated forms in the future with the implication that he will have an undying subject to experiment on. For Nosramus, it's more simple you just gotta answer some questions like the boss battle with Valteil. However, since the girl is ignorant of the world, the correct choices will not be available if the girl hasn't read a book containing a reference to the subject or talked to someone informing her. For example, she will not know who Gro-goroth is and will not be able to pick his name as a choice unless someone reads Study of Gro-goroth to her or some other character mentions it. So to do this ending, you'd have to loot as many bookshelves as you can to get the appropriate knowledge. For Buckman: You can ask Buckman to adopt you after you bring back Jeanne, and if you do, after you save the Gaunt Knight, instead of the usual end of the route where the Buckman's party will be gone and he leaves you a note and the ring of wraiths, Buckman's party will instead be trapped in their meeting spot by some monster threatening them and behind held off by the Gaunt Knight. The knight is holding his own, but it is clear he needs help and if you decide to leave the map the monster will just kill Buckman's whole party. But if you decide to engage the monster, Buckman will finally agree to adopt you for all you have done for him and his group. I was thinking the monster would be the Double-Headed Crow Mauler. I was considering commissioning an artist for the S-ending, I'll probably go through the pixiv tab and look at who has done porn with the girl before. Even if the pictures aren't going to be pornographic, I figured a normie artist would still object to their work being used for this mod and that a porn artist would be more accepting of the idea. I like the idea of asking the artists of these pics, but I can't find their commission info anywhere. I liked how the girl was drawn in these pictures, and they DO have commission info so if the first two guys aren't interested I might hit these two up instead. https://baraag.net/@Vermelhatan/111508743705923873 https://baraag.net/@LucasMist/111445370378670494>>1697090
>>1733720 I haven't started any work on the S endings btw so if you have a better idea for a better S-ending I am all ears.
https://files.catbox.moe/aagkb6.zip New update for Girl Marriage Mod is out. The main thing this game adds is the ability to play as the girl in the dating sim mode of the game called Dungeon Nights, as well as pick her as a partner to take to the prom. Fixed various bugs for this mode, namely bugs that made a few potential partners impossible to be romanced.
>There's a fucking dating sim mode Is it hilarious?
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>>1743468 It's more lighthearted and silly. It was meant to be more of a short gag but got fleshed out to be its own little campaign. It's still fairly short, you can complete a route in less than half an hour if you know what you're doing.
>>1743468 Despite the 'dork and griddy' reputation the game has, the devs are complete shitposters. The game was literally made as a joke iirc, one its playerbase didn't get.
>>1747401 They got high on their own gas with the second one, though. There's a reason you don't see people discuss it here.
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>>1747406 I thought they got high on tranny dicksword gas? >>1747401 >The game was literally made as a joke iirc, one its playerbase didn't get. So it's not grimdork medieval fantasy? It's just a bunch of shit that's "edgy ironically", but the core playerbase chooses to take it seriously, like with Kingdom Hearts?
>>1747585 >I thought they got high on tranny dicksword gas? Yes. Their community got infiltrated by lefty freaks and they made the sequel to pander to them. Trannies, furry shit and toning down rape and sexual content because they complained about how that was "problematic" in the first game.
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>>1747406 The reason I don't discuss it is because I haven't really played it. I'll probably start once I'm done with the mod because hopefully by then the Termina update will be done, the Termina sex mod will be updated, and I'll be able to play as Marina and recruit Samarie as my loyal party member and personal cumdumpster...hopefully.
>>1747665 Can you remove any references to tranny shit? At the very least as an option?
Like I said, I haven't played the game much so I don't know how much work that would actually involve. Wouldn't I need to completely change the backstory and Marina's sprites and such? And isn't Marina's actual gender supposed to be a secret? From what I know, there is a deleted line of dialogue where Marina refers to himself as his father's "crossdressing son" so maybe I can add the scene back in (hopefully it's just dummied out and not removed entirely otherwise I'll have to dig up and older version of the game to make sure the scene is implemented properly) and if the player hears this line of dialogue or finds out Marina's true gender in some other way (like I said, I haven't played through the game so I don't know if there is any way to learn it besides actually playing with Marina and not skipping the backstory) the game refers to him with male pronouns instead? For the sex mod, I didn't like that they gave Marina boobs so I edited Marina to have a male torso instead. I never shared the mod anyway, it was just for personal use but I posted the spritesheet, it might be out of date now though since I think the modders have made at least one or two new updates since then. >>1131039
>>1747764 I actually think it would be easier to just make Marina a canon girl instead. From what I remember originally there was no mention of Marina being a boy originally at all and that was added later. Maybe I'm misremembering that but I have a memory of it/
>>1747795 Oh, sorry I'm not really into yuri porn that shit is boring so my mind didn't go in that direction. I'd rather just keep Marina a dude, I don't really care if he is a troon or whatever because I just headcanon him as a femboi anyways. But if anyone else wanted to make such a mod, I think it'd be a lot easier to just make Marina a biological girl, I think just tweaking his backstory and changing up the pronouns. I don't think you'd need to mess around with scripts or anything, just dialogue and text bosses.
>>1747585 >So it's not grimdork medieval fantasy? It moved the timescale to post WW1 and it being in an actual city instead of a dungeon. This results in a lot more out of place stuff which is exacerbated by the fan pandering that the first game did a better job integrating smoothly. Though the out of place stuff mostly surrounds the trap as his dialect and dialogue feels oddly modern. >>1747764 >Miro actually removed it. Lost a lot of respect for him right there, imagine being so weak as to not let a character have actual insecurities due to it potentially offending the trannies populating his discord. I should've have expected this with the eceleb cave people incident where he was ready to cave, but I regret giving Termina my time now if the dev's games are going to be this neutered moving forward. Like the other playable contestants should've been patched in by now but the game still hasn't gotten that stupid fishing minigame. I get he lost his laptop and a years worth of work on it but Jesus Christ the game still feels incomplete with how ambiguous the A and C endings are as it is.
>>1778434 >that the first gam I think the plot was lost. When did this discussion move to the second game? I was talking about the first, as well as my reaction to there being a dating sim mode in it.
>>1747585 >It's just a bunch of shit that's "edgy ironically", but the core playerbase chooses to take it seriously, like with Kingdom Hearts? The first game, yes. It was made as some kind of experiment on being edgy but the devs decided to take it more seriously and do a lot of fan pandering after the reception it got.
>>1778720 My mistake, my mind moved to the second game as it was the thing I noticed more. Anyway to actually answer your question, the first game is medieval dark fantasy horror. There's a big focus sex/rape but plays itself as straight horror rather than an ero-game that makes it stand out beyond the general cruelty and dismemberment. There's a silly mode where it's a highschool but it's an extra mode divorced from the overall experience.
So all that's left now content-wise are the S-Endings? I take it those will take much longer though since they require much more new art assets and programming than other parts of the mod and you're trying to get art commissions?
>>1747585 >So it's not grimdork medieval fantasy? I think anon is referring to Dungeon Nights, the hidden dating sim mode in the first game. The entire thing is meant to be a goofy parody of the main game where you're trying to go to the prom with one of the other characters. >>1778434 >Lost a lot of respect for him right there, imagine being so weak as to not let a character have actual insecurities due to it potentially offending the trannies populating his discord. It's too bad the characters don't have more endings. An ending where Marina chooses to detransition would have been cool. Surgery and Hormone Replacement Therapy weren't widely available back then, so for Marina it'd be as easy as a change of clothes. Are there any games where that happens? The only things I can think of is Snoot Game where your romantic interest will stop identifying as non-binary is one of her endings, and South Park Broken But Whole where you can choose to identify as trans or cis, but can change from one to the other by talking to an NPC. >>1779237 With my current plans, the only art assets I need are ending cards. In terms of programming, it's not too hard but it is tedious since you gotta make sure all the switches and and variables are set up correctly. The ending idea I'm currently working on is the girl potentially getting adopted by Nosramus, Trortur, or Buckman. With Nosramus, you just have to answer a few questions, but since the girl is ignorant of the world, if she has not heard of the name of a person, place, or thing, the option of it will be replaced by a ???? and unselectable, so in order to get this mod you need to raid bookshelves and learn from them. The quiz is five questions out of a pool of twenty. The books you get are RNG, but if you search as many bookshelves as possible you would have to be extrodinarily unlucky to not get the books. Even then, you can also learn the answers from various NPCs, or you can go to the hall of the gods to get answers from them instead. After Nosramus, doing the Trortur route should be fairly easy to script, but Buckman's might be a little tricky.
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I don't even need the detrannification ending, it's more that any flavor to a character must be removed because trannies NEED constant affirmation and under no circumstance are even positive depictions have any wrinkles or doubts of their own. It's the absolute cowardice of removing an entire section of character writing that bothers me. It feeds into his relationships and complexes(to the point of it being the entire basis of his moonscorched form), but tranny characters can never be seen or depicted as anything but a perfect,happy and confident spokesperson for their cause and lifestyle so it had to be removed.
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Still working on the S-endings, in the meantime I found out someone else is working on a lewd mod too. https://indalo.itch.io/fear-hunger-lust-mod It adds a safe space where you can leave party members and invite NPCs like Buckman's party. In earlier builds of my mod I tried to add the option to make love in beds but removed it because the bed sprites were too small to work with lovemaking scenes but it seems this mod got around that issue by simply adding in a larger bed. I haven't tried it yet and the mod is also a WIP, but I wanted to post it in case anyone else was curious about it.
>>1781493 Exactly, nothing more disgusting than stick up the ass dogmatic moralfagging
>>1796586 Murder is wrong. :^)
>>1057514 What was even pozzed in BG3 besides le meme bear?
>>1797158 As long as you have a decent reason it is not
>>1797252 Ugly western faces/bodies and every male companion trying to fuck you at every turn, also making the world extremely "diverse".
>>1797252 I imagine it does the new "inclusive" thing of making practically everyone sexually flexible so you can be in whatever homosexual relationship you choose even if it doesn't make sense for most the characters, but I don't know for sure.


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