>>1139884 I'll admit the story to Days carries it quite heavily, but I also find the game impressive that it took KH's gameplay and Faithfully put it on the DS, it just happens that Re:Coded took it a step further and did a better job in terms of gameplay complexity. I was also playing Days with Retro achievements, so I was more invested in the game then simply beating it, so I did plenty to add extra depth the game then is required to beat it.

>>1139962 I wasn't a fan of day's story at all so that didn't help me either.

KH4's so dead that there's managed to be two whole Star Wars celebrations since it's announcement and no confirmation of Endor actually being in the teaser.

>>1075465 Squeenix has a bad habit of announcing things too early it’s like a staple of the company to announce things early and go radio silent about it

>>1078400 >Atlantis being replaced by Traverse Town. God I love Traverse Town, would’ve been so cool to revisit it in vanilla KH2, glad it got a glow up in DDD

>>1181269 When was DQ 12 announced and when was the last time we heard about it?

>>1175746 >KH4's so dead Have you not learned any patience over the years? You'd think after KH3 was announced in 2013, and it released in 2019, People would take the hint that quality AAA video games take a long fucking time to make nowadays. I've gotten accustomed to waiting a Decade for sequels to games like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. >>1181269 Logos and CGI trailers have never meant shit, a game is only actually proven to be getting made when we see real gameplay footage. Everything before then might as well be Nonexistent, Remember Elder Scrolls 6 was announced in 2018, and you can bet your ass they weren't working on it at all, until after Starfield released in 2023.

What’s up Refugee Bros and Kingdom Hearts Friends

>>1228062 >KH4 will suffer the same fate I doubt it, KH3 not only needed to make good on like 8 games worth of building up plot points and needing to finally conclude all of them, it also suffered from Development troubles, and them needing to switch engines, which had to of been a huge set back. Until we hear about similar development problems with KH4, if the games development is smooth then it should be fine. KH4 is also a clean slate pretty much, the only real plot points were are gonna be following is the Master of Masters narrative, and the Mystery Box, and maybe we'll see some of the World Ends with you cast again. Everything else is pretty much just new shit, we really don't have any expectations now, since nobody knows where this story is going anymore. KH3's DLC proved that the dev team still had what it takes to make Kingdom Hearts good, KH3 just had problems during development holding back it's Potential. KH4 at the very least will be better than base KH3 is, because aside from the Graphical fidelity, you can simply tell it's content is way more bare bones than we've come to expect, Base KH3 being bare bones is an outlier for this franchise, it's not a trend yet.

>>1228211 I've always said KH3's problem (at least, storywise) is that it's not KH4. KH3D ostensibly WAS KH3 in literally every sense including name, and it broke the biggest rule every other "side game" followed: 'Sora doesn't know it happened.' Every single non-numbered game up to 3D, Sora either wasn't there or has zero recollection of its events, which makes going between the numbered games simple as the player could learn alongside him whatever is going on. It's why the divide of people who played CoM and who didn't doesn't affect KH2. Sora doesn't know any of these literal nobodies, nor does he give a shit. Half the OG Organization are just weird projections he fights (assuming Data Org/Absent Silhouettes are canon) and nothing more. 3D should have just been a Riku solo game where both of them get ready to go into the test but Sora slips too deep immediately, with Riku having to dig his way through Sora's dreams to wake his ass up. It also would've helped if BBS was a proper PS3 game since it's essentially 'KH0' but that ship had already sailed by then.

>>1228062 KH4 is being made under very different conditions to KH3, I don't know if it will be good but it won't turn out the same way as 3.

Honestly I would rather just have FF or SE worlds at this point for KH4, with KH3 it's proven that Disney doesn't want an anime boy touching their property in any shape or form. And if that's what we're going to get, the Disney worlds in KH4 are going to be a nightmare or completely discombobulated with sora and co. You can really feel that shit in KH3 as soon as the last Disney world is done they rush the plot hard as Sora rescues ventus and aqua within the same cutscene

Replaying Kingdom Hearts 3 for the first time since launch has been weird. I actually find the Disney Worlds to be more fun than they were the first time around (except Arendelle, though I'm more sad than annoyed thinking about the wasted potential caused by Disney refusing to let Square do anything fun with it), but the many retarded directions that the main plot goes in makes me feel angrier than before, too. At least I've got the main story out of the way, looking forward to finally beating the Nu Data Organization and Yozora this go around.

>>1075465 to be fair KH3 got its first trailer in 2013 and it took 5 years to come out

>>1234992 >Kingdom Hearts 4 is primed to sell badly and you know it >I don't know what else to say to you except that I'm being realistic. If you think Kingdom Hearts as a brand is this powerhouse juggernaut you are deluded. I don't know why you're stating any of this as if I'm anymore deluded than you are, when I also think my view point is reasonable and realistic. You're trying to make it seem like KH4 is destined to be a failure, when every single entire in the KH franchise has been a success. People have made fun of Kingdom Hearts writing, and calling it shit for ages, so that's not really a factor in how well the games sell. Base KH3 was underwelding and people were disappointed, but I didn't play KH3 at release, I only played it after the DLC came out, so I saw the base game was undercooked, but then the DLC had a bunch of really fun content. I just care about the game being fun to play, and the DLC for KH3 showed me they can still make KH's gameplay fun. That's all I need to think KH4 has a reasonable chance of being a good game. But the facts are we know almost nothing about KH4 so trying to prop it up as some guaranteed masterpiece, or doom saying it's gonna be shit, is pointless. There is nothing tangible to judge right now. The Data Org in KH3 and Yazora are all great fights, and that's give me reason to believe KH3's content being underwhelming was due to development circumstances. KH4 shouldn't have the same issues unless we see otherwise. If KH3's development went off without a hitch, and the base game is what we got, then there would be reason to worry, but that's not what happened. I don't care if KH4 is the best-selling game in the series or not, I just care if i'll enjoy playing it, but if we are gonna place bets on if KH4 will be successful or not? Then you'd have to be a stubborn retard to think it's going to underperform. Don't let your emotions cloud the facts. Disneyland has actually set up Kingdom Hearts shit before because KH is one of the few things associated with Modern Disney that people still give a fuck about. There is an entire generation of people who grew up with Kingdom Hearts who have now had kids and are indoctrinating them into this franchise. Kingdom Hearts is gonna do just fine.

>>1235631 >>1235666 >And if you need a famous recent Square Enix example look at the sales of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Square Enix themselves said the game sold disappointingly You're leaving out have the fact FF7 Rebirth did poorly was due to it being a PS5 Exclusive at launch, so the market for the game relied on PS5 owners instead of the entire rest of the market. >Remember the Cloud Switch versions? That kind of complication also hurts Kingdom Hearts You say that ignoring that KH collection is on Playstation, Xbox, and PC, Sure the Switch version being cloud only sucks, but they can easily just make a Switch 2 version of the collection, and then get that market again with a better product. You keep stating Kingdom Hearts is a mess, and I agree, but it's been a mess since 2006 when you needed to play a fucking GBA game to understand who half of the characters were in a sequel to a PS2 game. None of what Kingdom Hearts has gotten criticized for over the years has ever amounted to it's sales going down. You can personally think Nomura is a hack writer all you want, I really aren't Committed one way or the other when it comes to KH's writing, i'm just along for the ride at this point, but people still like Kingdom Hearts for it's story. You are very much underestimating how large and dedicated the Kingdom Hearts community is to this franchise. Your personal Criticisms of KH don't mean shit, when there is a far larger audience buying the games anyway. You can go a head and think KH4 is dogshit when it releases, people will still eat that shit up.

A lot of stuff has leaked about Missing Link over the last 6 months. Very briefly >Has been in development for over 6 years >Completely restarted development to better fit mobile >Its dev hell lead to a Kingdom Hearts Union X remake being cancelled >More stuff leaked from the 2024 build, will feature at least 20 Disney worlds >Supposedly only reason it hasn't been cancelled is because it contains signifiant story elements that tie into Kingdom Hearts 4 Don't you love gacha slop completely fucking the series over?

>>1353477 Is this Nomura's doing or just the SE suits who want to maximize cross-platform promotion?

>>1235820 >You can personally think Nomura is a hack writer all you want This isn't subjective or up for debate. It is objectively true. Absolutely no one can say that KH games have well written stories.

>>1353477 >Its dev hell lead to a Kingdom Hearts Union X remake being cancelled Good chance this probably would have been an actual console/PC game and not totally reliant on Gacha. Shame that died. >Supposedly only reason it hasn't been cancelled is because it contains signifiant story elements that tie into Kingdom Hearts 4 I'm so fucking sick of all these mobile games that SE keeps killing off after a few years being important to the plot. It was already hard keeping track of the story before the advent of the internet and all the games being easily available for one platform, but now we gotta stomach mobile games designed to suck all the money out the players pockets that don't even compare to modern Gacha games we are seeing now, much less the handheld games, and look up cutscenes to a dead game on (((Youtube))) to even understand what the hell's going on in KH4 because the in-game recap is going to miss important story beats like KH3's did. I just want to play my fun vidya and have a decent idea as to what's going on, but no, I have to keep on top of the story to the gacha prequels because Nomura wants to one-up Blazblue on how hard it is to keep track of the story and SE wants more money to waste because they think that making $100-million dollar games that requires a NASA supercomputer to run and an extra 1TB SSD to store the game on is a good idea.

>>1356074 >>1353477 >Supposedly only reason it hasn't been cancelled is because it contains signifiant story elements that tie into Kingdom Hearts 4 About that... https://archive.ph/j5MSL

>>1353583 It's hard to tell? It's probably a mixture. >>1356658 Absolutely no surprise, the game was in development for longer than Kingdom Hearts 3 was. Sometimes you have to look at a project and say "This isn't working". It being tied into KH4 was probably the only reason it survived this long, what really pisses me off is how KH4's development was based on this gacha slop launching first. There's a good chance KH4 would have been OUT by now if they didn't decide to make Missing Link first.

>>1356658 No more worthless spinoffs. Just main games from now on.

>>1356874 I'm not sad the gacha is dead. I'm sad there have been five years of wasted time with no projects because Square and Nomura assumed it would fill the gap.

>>1356658 >Missing Link is canceled GOOD. Now they can finally focus their efforts on KH4 instead of that Gacha crap. I promise you if they weren't focusing on Missing Link, we would have at least gotten another trailer for KH4 and possibly even a release year of 2027 instead of 2028 if lucky. If the story to Missing Link was THAT important, Nomura can just make it into a movie or something and either bundle it with KH4 or release it online.

Do any of you remember this from a few years ago? The Kingdom Hearts 2020 roadmap for the "Second Phase" of the series. I don't think I've ever seen a roadmap go well.

>>1357918 I feel like anyone who would be invested enough to want a KH roadmap would also be invested enough to know not trust a KH roadmap

Some actual, honest-to-god screenshots of Kingdom Hearts 4. Square Enix appears to have hired This Man.

>>1359841 This looks like an early, maybe late-alpha build considering how the enemies don't cast any shadows. I'm glad there's finally some news on this game as it's been roughly three fucking years between the announcement trailer and now, even if the screenshots look like they were made in Gmod. I feel like we got more updates for KH3 by this time. >playable Mickey >and it's not scripted like Re:Mind or when you die to certain bosses in 2 Thinking back, I noticed that (((Disney's))) not using Mickey as much anymore since he's public domain now. I'm surprised to see him in anything new from them now.

>>1359841 I miss the hand drawn Sora face

>>1075613 >>1111924 >>1356873 Ain't no way someone is down bad for the KH monkeys

>>1114003 If you can't suspend your disbelief when you hear Goofy say, in his a-hyuck Bill Farmer voice. "Maybe Sephiroth is the darkness inside Cloud's heart?" then the series isn't for you.

>>1360476 That's only for the Verum Rex world, according to Nomura. Sora will look "normal" outside of it.

>>1362168 idk man. KHIII also had CGI Sora on the UI

>>1362171 I thought you meant his model. I don't like 3D UI Sora either

>>1362221 Makes it easier to port for future releases. No HD graphics to redraw for modern resolutions, it just using a better version of the same model. I think a lot of games think with that mind now.