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日本語学習スレッド (Japanese Learning Thread) Anonymous 03/18/2025 (Tue) 20:30:44 Id: 939691 No. 1080622
In collaboration with >>>/lang/ Step 0. Resource Acquisition Go here to get Anki, a flash card program: http://ankisrs.net/ Here are some suggested decks: Core2k/6k: https://mega.nz/#!QIQywAAZ!g6wRM6KvDVmLxq7X5xLrvaw7HZGyYULUkT_YDtQdgfU KanjiDamage: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187 Kana: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1632090287 Tae Kim's grammar: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/242060646 Other Resources RealKana: http://realkana.com/ (alternate version) https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html Click the column of characters you want to study and type the corresponding romaji into the box as they appear Kana Invaders: https://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/ Space Invaders/Galaga style clone. Type the romaji to shoot the kana alien KanjiVG: http://kanji.sljfaq.org/kanjivg.html Simply plug the character in and instantly get a stroke order diagram Forvo.com: http://ja.forvo.com/ Type in a word or phrase to hear a native speaker's pronunciation Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/ Great introduction to Nipponese, you can start here to learn basic grammar and vocabulary KanjiDamage: http://www.kanjidamage.com/ Learn Kanji by using mnemonics and radicals Mainichi browser extension: http://mainichi.me/ Learn a new vocabulary word every time you open a new tab JapaneseClass: http://japaneseclass.jp/ Learn Nipponese by playing games (requires registration) DJT Guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/ [YOUTUBE VIDEOS] JapanesePod101: https://y.com.sb/channel/UC0ox9NuTHYeRys63yZpBFuA/videos https://veoh.com/users/JapanesePod101 https://www.dailymotion.com/JapanesePod101 Namasensei: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=nqJ5wU4FamA&list=PL9987A659670D60E0 https://veoh.com/find/Namasensei JapaneseVideocast: https://y.com.sb/playlist?list=PLX6kjDZDLD_dNyrkdvTRKVKIJRo4g7xFD Gonna leave these here for those that belieb
[Expand Post]https://y.com.sb/watch?v=TKg23ZFURX0 https://y.com.sb/watch?v=vJG9kpqTRmU The Guy with mega of japanese dub movies Use the decoder below to get the link & key. YUhSMGNITTZMeTl0WldkaExtNTZMMlp2YkdSbGNpOVpjekI1VWtGdlF3PT0= X1FrMmpJaVQ0aXpZVGhYS241UGNMUQ== The unironic links guy For beginner/early level: https://y.com.sb/channel/UCXo8kuCtqLjL1EH6m4FJJNA For more intermediate levels: https://y.com.sb/channel/UCh-GhnQ7qDQmS6Bz3pGc1Mw https://y.com.sb/channel/UCVx6RFaEAg46xfAsD2zz16w https://y.com.sb/channel/UCcCeJ3pQYFgvfVuMxVRWhoA
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>>1519092 Is there a place were I could find these resources with updated links?
>>1519405 You can probably find most of them using these sites https://fmhy.net/readingpiracyguide#manga
I want to start playing Pokemon Black, is Yomininja the only way to have a dictionary for an emulator or are there other ways?
N4 test is on sunday. I'm a bit nervous about the listening section. It's decently simple but last time for the N5 the reverb in the room was so awful I could barely make out anything and only just passed.
Well I took the N4. Just like last time, I had to sit behind some dude who smelled. And also just like last time the reverb in the room during the listening section was awful. Like listening to takeshi san through a fucking sewer pipe. Idk, think I did alright though.
>>1539789 why did you take the n5 & n4? only n2 and up are useful
>>1539947 For fun basically. Also to give myself a kick in the ass and get to studying.
>>1539947 NTA but I think it's fun to signal steps in your journey that way (even if the JLPT tests are kind of a meme). If you don't make things feel special from time to time, life loses its spark
>>1541335 >JLPT tests are kind of a meme only because most actually learning to use the language is up to you most learners are content with being half-literate mimes, which is I find very depressing
>>1106063 Cure Dolly is literally the only grammar instruction that isn't massively damaging to your Japanese, but even then her views on immersion were bad because you'll never become fluent at speaking or listening with it. Tbh most of her opinions outside of the actual grammar structure were bad. Still worth a skim through all her grammar vids so you have a general idea of just wtf is going on in written Japanese
>>1117508 Learning english is legitimately not that hard, especially how ESLs do it, as in, through vidya/movie/internet immersion when they are kids, especially when they are taking advantage of the plasticity of their young brains. But japanese? Not only it's legitimately difficult, most people do it well into their 20s when their brains calcified. What's more, people learning japanese tend to be desperate for a method to become fluent RIGHT THIS FUCKING INSTANT which is ripe grounds for scams.
>>1611295 Also in favour of cure dolly, she's basically the only one actively explaining in a straightforward way without trying to string you along to grift you. I don't see the problem with her opinions tho.
>>1612501 >the problem with her opinions tho. A few of them come across as sour grapes, she's passive aggressive against top down language acquisition and gets pissed at people caring about not having an accent because millions of 3rd worlders speak English poorly so why should anyone care about speaking Japanese poorly. Both of these griefs are related to her immersion method, which is pretty much guaranteed to give you a bad accent with poor pronunciation, as is any method that relies on the understanding of a written language before understanding the spoken language
>>1612501 >without trying to string you along to grift you. At the end of her very first video she tells you to buy her book.
>>1614023 Which you can fully ignore because all the info is on her jewtube videos.
>>1613216 > top down language acquisition What is even that?
>>1614246 It's a term she used for learning a language through "fuzzy understanding" of speech
>>1614488 >>1614506 Thanks for the explanation bros.
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>>1612318 as if. learning proper english to an acceptable level (i.e. blending in) is not trivial. just phonology alone is enough of a kick to the balls (e.g. strong and weak forms, dealing with clusters, unreleased plosives, devoicing, multiple accepted pronunciations for some words). then you have the gorillion phrasal verbs with a zillion meanings, which are highly reminiscent of jukujikun since all too often the words have little to do with the meaning (e.g. phone it in? oh yeah it has to do with journalists in the '30s calling the office to break a story to the editor because they're too busy chasing after their next scoop and can't be assed to write a proper article. you can totally tell that at first glance right. also see mail it in) >>1117508 because japanese is infamous for having shit learning materials (and the good stuff doesn't get much publicity), and the massive hole has yet to be filled. while there's an astronomical amount of interest, the learning curve is unforgivingly steep, leading to high drop-off rates and a constantly renewing stream of clueless dopes ready to get duped. basically, there are no go-to sites to check whether something is grammatical and sounds natural. furthermore, there are very few explanations on WHY stuff is used (the dojg try in this regard but they're not quite enough), resources differentiating similar words (e.g. 方向 vs 方位 vs 方角 vs 方面) are scarce. you have dictionaries of synonyms for this purpose, but surprise surprise they're monolingual above all, the biggest hurdle is not having people you can consult to tell you how they'd go about expressing certain ideas coupled with an inability to guess due to english and japanese being so far apart (野次馬(onlookers when there's a tragedy)? wtf is that? wtf do you mean "you're right" is あなたの言うとおりだ?). something as trivial as "this is for you" or "how does it work?" turns into a nightmare in japanese.
>>1635470 >no go-to sites to check whether something is grammatical and sounds natural I use grok and it's actually been pretty decent so far.
Can anyone recommend any good on-screen machine translators for Android? Before you ask, yes I am learning Japanese, but I like it when I have a translator that is available on any screen automatically which I can turn on to 'check my work' so to speak.
>>1089217 I wanted to apply for N1 in december. The signup was in july and was closed after a week...
>>1644998 Yeah the sign up period is only like a couple weeks. But it's always around the same times I think.
>>1645639 signed up for N2. should I have gone for N1 considering the passing mark is a mere 100/180 points or is it that much harder?
>>1729186 I hear that it's a decent bit harder.
>>1729186 You could take some practice tests and see for yourself, they are all over, even complete tests from past years. If you want a token white monkey salaryman job though most say they want N2 because that is classified as "business level" so I wouldn't worry about N2 or N1. I also signed up for N2, got the last slot for my testing location, they filled up in under an hour. I don't think I am going to pass unless I grind hard though.
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>>1741346 it's not too hard to understand. using the language and distinguishing between overlapping expressions is another thing entirely. e.g. shit like ~て仕方がない(supposedly focuses on spontaneous emotions/natural reactions like finding something cute) ~てたまらない(supposedly emphasis on sensations brought on by external influences like a mosquito bite) ~てならない(supposedly emphasis on thoughts and concerns that one can't get off one's mind, like being worried or feeling regret, or even glad. the most formal of the 3). there's overlap in some cases of course
Well my letter came in the mail and I passed the N4. Not that it means much but it's cool.
>>1084786 Protip you will find them playing games like Counter-Strike (especially older editions, most of the community servers are Russian) and Team Fortress 2. Learn the alphabet first, its the easy part, the almost impossible part is learning the russian grammar. I've only learned bits and pieces from playing CS and having to tolerate those fucks on my screen in public lobbies. >>1080622 What's the best for learning kanji through set phrases that appear often in writing rather than separate kanji as that could help speed up recognition?
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I'm trying to use Yomitan with Jitandex dictionaries, but I am having a bit of difficulty figuring out how I should format the model fields, as shown in the picture here. What do you guys have it set as? I just want the anki cards I create to have as much useful information in them as possible and to reflect the kind of quality as the more curated anki decks.
>>1789691 I learned most of my kanji so far through vocabulary anki decks. I would recommend writing the kanji out a bit as well to help reinforce them in you mind.
>>1801505 I'm too lazy to make my own cards so I just use Takoboto+Ankidroid+Kanji Study as there's integration between them. I make lists in Takoboto and export them to Ankidroid where I suspend writing part if not needed. Exported Anki cards have links to Takoboto so I can check for details from Anki any time I want and Takoboto allows to view kanji in Kanji Study where I can check Kanji composition. The only downside is that exported cards with rarely used kanji form are written in kanji instead of hiragana.
>>1801505 This is my yomitan setup, and I used Animecards as I went for word cards, instead of sentence cards. https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/151553357 Though I mostly used Memento to mine subs, as it was the fastest and easiest way to do cards, instead of using text extractors and trying to record audio of games, or do newspapaers and have barely any audio. Here is a video for the setup, though it is for sentence cards, I did modify it for word cards https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5bfawC4Is5w >>1789691 >What's the best for learning kanji through set phrases that appear often in writing rather than separate kanji as that could help speed up recognition? Personally I did the RTK method with a premade Anki deck, that had the english word on front, I would write the kanji on paper then compare results with the back of the card. I can give you the pros and cons of this method if you want.
>>1635470 >as if. learning proper english to an acceptable level (i.e. blending in) is not trivial. It is these days when half of the "dialogue" in english these days (especially online) is 80% nigger noises like "cooked" or "aura farming" or "fr" and the likes. It's so trivial now that even pajeets only stand out when they fuck up irregular verbs with shit like "buyed".
>>1177257 If anything it would be more optimal to move to /a/, which is the original place of the DJT threads and the board would actually use some of that activity while I'd wager /jp/ers are happy with niche and low activity.


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