>>1261860 strdit = better if you can 1shot, but typically weaker, their weapons are sometimes 1 speed higher str + dex + luk = higher min dmg like if your range is 572 ~ 1034 on a regular dit then a strdit would be something like 685 ~ 949

>>1261849 you get higher max dmg on a dexless until about lvl 60-70, you typically have +50-100 more LUK than dex sins at that level you basically take advantage of that DEX scrolls are cheaper than LUK you need around a ~42+ atk claw to compete with a ~30 atk meba/maple claw vic island endgame is scarab 45-50 atk

>>1261860 STR dits are better if you have a Dragon Khanjar, which is their shield that has a lot of base watk. Only thing is that it probably won't be obtainable at the start cause it came out way later in GMS.STR dits were a joke in the community before then.

>>1261752 Sure, if you've got money pouring out of your ass. For the other 99% of people, it's too expensive to be more than a gimmick or add on skill to pickpocket.

>>1261849 L7 completely ignores dex in the equation for damage and has an obscene damage multiplier with luck. Because of this you want to hard prioritize luck and have only the bare minimum dex needed for your gear. This is why maple weapons are so ridiculous on sins and why low/no dex sins damage soars way above normal dex sins, which already is higher than everyone elses damage. And while I agree with scrolling for luck, dex scrolls are available for nearly everything and tend to be more accessible.

>>1262511 Still good if you are one of the first people to do zak or ht.

>>1116721 Rein, as in "horse reins" or "reindeer"

ngl im kinda tempted to play a progressive server. I miss Croosade and Swordie

>>1276192 wasn't Eluna the swordie spiritual successor

I wonder if Warriors/Archers will get nu-Final Attack or the literal DPS loss Final Attack.

>>1276629 says its up to date on gtop. gay

>>1277253 How exactly did they end up smoothing that one out in the end? I remember being baffled it actually made you do an attack animation and wished it was just a free extra attack roll.

>>1277591 It became a free extra attack roll.

>>1277253 I hope they fix it. It's easy to just write it off and forget it existed since that's what people did for years, but it clearly wasn't meant to be so bad it ends up being a thirty skill point dps loss. All it has to do is mimic the aoe attack and its damage and boom its useful. Some people don't like the additional frames of animation since it briefly takes away control, and they're free to not take it, but it shouldn't be an outright dead skill. Whatever the case, I don't think they're going to just leave a thirty point trap skill that lowers your dps. They may not have known better back then, but we do now.

I have fond memories of my friends and I getting to level 25 on the starter island and just absolutely refusing to leave, making fun of all the actual noobs there.

>>1280280 There’s a whole lot of skills that are useless or functionally useless. I’m curious how many will be looked at.

>>1280409 Sure, there are plenty of bad skills. Bandit's endure that allows slightly more natural hp and mp regen only while hanging from a rope doesn't exactly push the needle. But final attack is in a different league because it actually and measurably lowers your aoe mobbing damage. And mobbing damage is what you're dealing out 99% of the time on every class with access to final attack. It says a lot when dumping second job points into improve hp recovery and iron body is the better option.

bros im going to make a paladin two handed blunt weapon

>>1280748 based Still not locked down what I want yet outside of the vague idea that I want to build a guy for 1/2shot burst damage so I can farm low enemy density zones and avoid the swarm at all the well known aoe spots.

>>1280748 based, my friend is doing that too After a week of autistic deliberating about meta, farming, and training speeds, I settled on… Bandit. It has the most interesting kit throughout all four jobs, and enjoys a lot of convenience.

>>1280742 was band of thieves ever considered "good"? or was it just flashy

>>1281076 lol no While it does finally give them something to hit up to six mobs, dagger range is short and the other "thieves" that hit other mobs only happens if you hit something yourself, pretty much forcing you to face tank shit in order to hit multiple mobs. On top of this, the devs seem to have forgotten to account for daggers having much lower attack power than most weapons, especially compared to warriors who mostly use two handed weapons with bigger multipliers than one hand weapons, so while its listed to do something like 190% when maxed, it's really no better than slash blast damage... except by this point warriors are getting things to raise their damage even further. (combo, element charges, dragon fury/crusher) So it's essentially a worse slash blast that you don't get until third job. Yeah, the bandit class was absolute meme tier and one of the least popular classes for good reason. Especially when set next to the assassin class that the devs couldn't stop ejaculating over.

is there something like a FFXII MMO like a game where you automate most of the grinding with official bot tools and take it easy while chatting/alt-tabbing and doing anything else these MMOs keep coming back but fuck if I'm gonna waste a second youth grinding manually on fucking MS I just wanna meet people

>>1281358 >Chief Bandit on a fresh classic server where money won't be available to explode things The play might be to farm scrolls to sell just to be able to train...

>>1281435 I say all that stuff as someone whose very first character all the way back twenty years ago was a bandit. I want to like the class, but unless they get some big buffs I wont be making another one. Probably go with an i/l mage or DK.

>>1281458 Hey what a coincidence, I was an I/L mage. Don't. Be a healcuck or pick your DK.

Maybe i'll remake a char on royals or something just to scratch that itch in the meantime. gtop100 is down to 2 pages of maple servers. Is there nothing nowadays? where do people shill their servers?

>>1281392 Learn to code and write your own bot. I bot in retail Maplestory. As long as you write your own bot, you will never get caught. Hackshield is only checking for known executables posted on public forums.

>>1280742 >Bandit's endure that allows slightly more natural hp and mp regen only while hanging from a rope doesn't exactly push the needle. I always found it enviable that they could AFK at white fangs and lycans without drinking those cold pots. >>1283557 Do you bot 24/7 or do you just bot like 10 hours a day while asleep and away? What's the longest you've run a bot? Do you have anti-detection measures like varied attack times, not moving to the exact same pixel over and over, etc? Like how does it actually work? I've botted Runescape a bit but not with my own bot.

>>1283557 Big doubt unless you love just love blowing through accounts and getting banned doesn't bother you.

>>1280910 sindit?

>>1286185 Yeah, no reason not to be sindit. Double Stab is ass.

>>1287099 you max savage blow first right?

>>1287423 Yeah, followed by the usual 5 mastery > 6 booster > max mastery

Weird, I was hopping for trannies to go back to 4chins already

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