My social life is over.

>>1103082 Fucking huge news

>>1103082 actually insane news, thanks for posting, can't wait to grind a cleric by healing zombie mushrooms ad nauseam like in the old days

>>1103082 Nemi's pretty cute considering she's probably nearing 50.

>>1103082 I never played Maple Story, but I always thought it looked cute. I think I will be trying it this time.

Surely this would be with fourth job, anything but mage is inting. int and mag att being 1:1 is crazy.

Looks like this has been in the works for over a year now

>>1103082 It's fucking over for me.

Pretty sure my friend is gonna be glued to this game for the next month considering he hops from private server to private server.

>>1103274 I'll be straight up with you to save time, it's a massive grind time sink in which you spend hours somewhere to gain a level. In Artale pre-Aqua I was taking over 10 hour per level. It isn't a quest focused leveling game. Take that as you will.

>>1103082 holy shit this is gonna be huge

>>1103082 On the bright side, Royals and Legends are finally going to meet their well deserved end, Inkwell is absolutely going after their ass if he wants ClassicMS to succeed, and force all pserver players to move to official. On the other side? It is going to flop drastically after the novelty wears out, people are going to scratch their nostalgia itch then realize pre-BB actually SUCKED and move on with their lives because they are too old to keep pretending they're having fun after the first 30 levels.

>>1107152 Skill issue, I'll keep it alive personally.

>>1107178 I mean, there will probably be crossover events where playing Classic MS might give you rewards for Modern MS and vice versa, that would be one way for Inkwell to force people to keep it alive. What's the high IQ strat for Classic again? Go all in with a Cleric?

Ice/Lighting or Assassin?

>>1103082 It won't feel the same. I'm not the kid I was 19 years ago, unfortunately. Might be fun to try and see if older usernames pop up for this revival, but these nostalgia baiting attempts make this really sour for me to be quite honest. Sorry to be a party pooper.

I wanted to be excited but in the video they just kept repeating "this is how we're gonna capture what made classic MapleStory so great" several times and then didn't list one concrete thing that they would do to that end.

Break the habit, MMObros. Know that it's all a waste of time and it'll never be the same as it was 20 years ago; different community, different interests. Everybody is a hyperfocused efficiencytranny now, there is no fun to be found on MMOs anymore.

>>1107821 Assuming we have 4th job, mages will just fuck on every class. Though, avenger is sex.

>>1103082 They gonna shove pay2win shit on it, being it hp wash and 2x coupons like it used to be or even new pay2win shit.

ohhhh im soooomping im soooooompin

i just want them to remove HP washing and have an auction house like maple worlds did and it will be perfect. also to the guy crying about mages, they were completely suboptimal for bossing and were only good for farming. besides bishops obv, the best class in the game.

>>1112548 >lead game designer behind early Maplestory and Maplestory 2 yet almost nobody knew who the fuck she was until now how did she do it?

>>1103082 Going to go Bishop/Cleric like in the old days.

>>1103082 i'm just gonna say it. early post-bb >>> pre-bb. game peaked with chaos.

>>1114234 The instant they roll out potential is the moment I won't touch the game again.

>>1112591 >implying mages aren't going to make your farming rates look pathetic in comparison >implying you're not going to be paying mages for leech They own you little bro

I played the entirety of the GMS beta back in like 2004 or 2005 or whenever that was. When official MapleStory launched, I got a bunch of sweet Scania usernames like "Jesus". I have very fond memories of my MapleStory beta days, but I did not play official GMS for very long, because by the time that official GMS had launched, I had already played JMS to 3rd job so there was really nothing new for me to do. That said, I'm can't see myself playing this, except maybe to download it and play it for a minute just to say that I did. I played some MapleStory pservers a couple years ago when I got the itch (after having played Reboot to the mid 100s in like a couple days) and I have to say that I think the "post-Big Bang" MapleStory experience is much better. I wasn't around for the Big Bang, I quit well before that I think, but I think I'd rather play a modern MapleStory pserver than play an official relaunch of original MapleStory. The old jobs just weren't very fun when you get down to it. Post-BB is much closer to an actual video game, even if it's super fucking bloated with "content".

>>1103082 Will the Henehoes come back? I wanna erp with some blown out ones nostalgic for doing the same dam

Will the Henehoes be back? I wanna fuck some blown-out one who’s nostalgic for doing the same damn thing 20 years ago and make her feel wanted again

My bad

>>1115763 >Henehoes Excuse me, are you implying that Henesys that a thriving whore industry that I somehow wasn't privy to?

>>1115785 They have to, this only works if we get the right ratio of attention whores and grinders. The yappers needs to keep the gamers entertained, while the gamers keep the yappers motivated. Balance.

>>1115763 >>1115785 A lot of people in modern maple still use alliance chat and buddy chat a lot so there's a decent chance if the classic server is popular.

>>1112591 They also cause massive inflation and encourage leeching. There's a reason newer servers reign their asses in. And many people hated how they were only good for farming and never brought to bosses. It was awful design and everyone knows it.

>>1112591 farming is 99.9% of your game hours old ms had 2 bosses

>>1103916 Is it not possible/fun to play it casually? I don't even know what you do in the game and how you gain levels, it just looked fun.

>>1117481 Playing it casual is perfectly fine, there were a ton of people who just used it as a chatroom. This would be what henehoeing is.

>>1107211 Assuming they keep it classic with no balance changes, and we have 4th job/progress to 4th job patch eventually? Absolutely all in on lukless bishop.

>>1112591 >and were only good for farming. what do you think you will be doing in old school ms? socializing? that aspect of the game is dead, anon unless you get into some tryhard speedrunning cliques, most people will be trying to mind their own business like the other anon said, there aren't that many bosses to worry about to begin with and you will be outdamaging your average hermit anyway because it is just that faster to progress with mages, especially bishop which is going to be 99% of the population btw

>>1117752 Nice, I'll give it a try after all. I only played WoW very casually for a short time, but I had fun.

Did they say what content will be in it? what do they consider the cutoff point for classic?

>>1117054 pre-bb maplestory had a lot more than 2 bosses

>>1122170 I think he means when it first came out, there was Jr Balrog and later Zakum, I think the third boss was that fish or did ludi came out before the water area?

Bros does this mean I have another chance at getting a mentally ill goth GF? I came so close in the past on RuneScape and MS

>>1122170 >zak >ht >pb that's all the relevant ones

I wonder if they will keep PQ's the old way or change it so any amount of parties can be in there at the same time.

>>1103082 About damn time. Private Classic servers never really did it for me. People forget that part of the appeal of old Maple was the feeling of it being alive and partying with people and private servers all feel super dead. This one will actually be alive and active. Looking forward to henehoeing and PQing with you lads again when this comes out.

>>1122696 i think you would be disappointed when the vast majority of people will metagame the fuck out of it and move incredibly quick through all of the "content".

>>1123408 This. There is no feeling of "community" anymore with MMOs. A huge majority of players only care about efficiency and lack of time waste. It's a race only the biggest losers can win and the only way to win is to not play.

making the experience 1:1 the same as back then is not a great idea longevity wise they will need to try balancing nostalgia and progress people so hellbent on going back to killing one mushroom at a time are just a loud minority hell, just take a look at the kimetsu no yaiba collab people are barely reaching 210 before giving up on tanjiro because "the mobbing is bad", "the bonus exp is a scam", "the skillset is boring" old maple is mind numbingly boring in comparison, most people are going to give up you will see dozens of people dropping out without even graduating out of henesys hunting grounds 1

>>1123408 people really need to take what happened with wow classic to heart. reviving old MMOs to relive the past just doesn't work. without some kind of filter in place (i.e. the process of accessing a private server) the modern MMO audience will optimize all the fun out of the game.

>>1123408 This is pretty much the problem with the modern MMO mindset. Maplestory was fun because you hung out with people while grinding. Maybe do a PQ now and again. Now a lot of people are going to race to the end since the game is already figured out.

>>1103082 I know that Maplestory has always been a Windows-exclusive, but I'd be really happy if it was cross-platform. Probably not, since if I'm not mistaken, their anticheat would make that a tall ask, but seeing how they're porting Blue Archive to Steam, one can hope.

>>1122600 >cwkpq and its bosses >scarlion and taiga or whatever they are called >anego and the other showa bosses Also a shitlot of other bosses like bigfoot and HH for exp farming

>>1125303 mac support is coming, maybe it'll work on linux as well.

>>1124132 Some people will tough it out. I know I got to 137 in Artale before Leafre finally dropped. I mean yeah, 1~101 was made easier and classes were buffed, but there's still plenty that love the game.

People insisted that wow classic would die in a week, people would get bored, no one wants to do attunments, etc, yet it's still popular years later. Same things were said about runescape classic, and it's even more popular than modern runescape. These arguments fall on their face every time. Now imagine how many people have been waiting for an official classic MS server. Not fartale or some other thing that is essentially a private server with nexon's implied blessing by not being shut down. I think people forget just how insanely popular the game was before the BB update.

>>1122352 Yes. She might even be a single mom. Imagine. We're all going to fucking make it.

>>1124132 >The skillset is boring Anon, tanjiro is essentially a class that stops at second job in a game with 6 job advancements. He is extremely boring and unfun and unrewarding to play both when grinding and bossing IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CURRENT GAME. Old school maple is way slower in general and plays completely different as a whole, but that doesn't mean it's not fun. It's a completely different context

>>1128572 lol right? If you're a warrior I sure hope you like slash blast and power strike for 120+ levels. And no final attack to spice things up because it literally lowers your dps.

I tried Maple once but I got confused by all the event UI stuff and gave up after an hour or two. What are the “classic” classes? I played as the Knight of Light guy but thought the class with the mech seemed cool.

if this will actually start from the earliest version possible,where it was only victoria island and progressively roll out the content i will literally become the cum

>>1126497 Maplestory was still decently popular in early postbb which I would argue is the true peak of the game. Unfortunately, it all went to shit when class mobility got out of control, and then they eventually just gave everyone a flash jump and full screen attacks, which just homogenized the game so dramatically. Map design also greatly suffered overtime to just be only optimized grinding layouts. You could say potentials killed it but that was introduced a little before the prebb update not to say that its defensible at all, or even Victoria Island's layout getting murdered which is a legitimate point.

>>1132301 Classic classes would be the mage/warrior/thief/archer, AND pirate(corsair is sex). A lot of the mobile UI elements came later, 100 clickables on your screen to take you to 100 event pages shouldn't be there. We grinded it out because it was good.

>>1103082 The people who created the problem cannot be depended upon to fix the problem

>>1137632 the problem is MMOs

>>1135122 Would be cool but I also wouldn't want them to roll out the content too slow. I don't want to outlevel being able to LPQ and OPQ for example. Could also lead to people quitting if there's not a lot of stuff to do.

nostalgiakeks be like

>>1141827 Fewer classes, sure. Especially with the insane power and mobility creep that kept on climbing. I could do without anything past Pirates.

>finally find a private server i like (banesauce) >this happens >private server is guaranteed to die on classic release Alright.

>>1142154 There's still like a year before Classic World launches so you can enjoy it for a while.

>>1142154 >banesauce >Thu Apr 20 2023 >in alpha for 2 years What?

>>1142533 but it's really going to launch for real this time (in several months)

streamers are going to ruin the shit out of classic everyone will be donating gear and mesos to them while they buy gachapons and 2x coupons from donation money >>1123408 this as well, happened on Artale random Kronos lvl 290 dude in a mid-core guild was the #1 hermit >>1126146 impressive, what class?

>wanting auction house Artale steely dupe + RWT noped the fuck out

we needed classic maple back in 2015 really no one will have an enjoyable experience today >streamerfags always having a PQ or grinding party any time they are on >nu-maple sloppers who drop $2k monthly on MVP red will go all in and try to be the next tiger/suushi/fangblade >third world service sellers will be grinding for both streamers and tryhards instead of a legit race to 200 >possible FM dupe/storage exploits out the ass >trooncord cliques controlling the market and boss economy + having blacklists for non-LGBT players >getting muted for 1 week/1month because you named the jew in chat and was spam reported by 15 different trooncords

>>1142911 None of this is any different than fresh private server releases. Someone will always outspend you, someone will always have a more reliable static than you. It's not a big deal. You seem like a numapler.

>>1142962 nigger private servers come up and die in a week these days because of all the things i mentioned you're a retard if you think "its not a big deal" because all these things take away from nostalgia of playing pre-bb

>>1142911 Everything you named is why I think "Classic" WoW and "Classic" Maple and "Classic" whatever else is kind of dumb. You simply cannot have a "Classic" experience of any MMO in modern times. Everything is too optimized and "webbed" and jewish. For example, you will *never* see a high level player with nonoptimal stats like you used to, and rather than just aimlessly grinding while having fun, people are going to nolife grind race with dedicated coordinated groups that have mapped everything out weeks/months in advance. Things simply are no longer how they used to be, and even release something identical to what it was in 2005 cannot possibly be "the same" in 2025.

>>1143038 >because all these things take away from nostalgia of playing pre-bb Yeah bro, I miss everyone running PG hack at WS or just mapvaccing. I need the true fucking experience.

>>1143065 did you not play artale? there was literally chinese botters day and night who would come back the next day after being banned with a new name like qwyue7123 while i sat muted for a week for saying fuck kikes, the only way to find a party was to ask in the fucking dicksword channel thats going to be the classic experience as well >>1143048 yeah WoW Classic was literal cancer, everyone suddenly had 3 proffession alts making 500g daily and raiding on two different accounts

>>1103209 i did 35-71 at wraiths it sucked

>>1143143 >did you not play artale? No, I've been waiting for official classic servers. Last old school server I played was a year or two ago.

>>1143048 Everyone is going to optimize their stats of course, but if they take some inspiration from mapleland shit like (stat)less builds may not be much of an issue. For example they nerfed maple weapons to be on par with other weapons and come with the same stat requirements as normal weapons because the community felt they were too powerful and eclipsed every other weapon in the level ranges for many classes, which they were and did. I believe they also nerfed/nixed sauna and/or bathrobes for the same reasons.

>>1143207 There are now thousands of zoomers who can grind as much as fangblade and tiger. I am a 35 year old retired neet and I was gapped by random zoomers, streamers, chinks ,and nu-maplers even though I grinded 8 hours a day for a month on artale. I wasn't even top 100.

>>1109640 I haven't played an MMO since I was 15. It was around that time I realized everything was p2w, and real life sucked the magic out of it.

>>1143379 I'm aware there are a lot of grinders out there. When throne and liberty came out, I was on that all day while working as long as nothing got too neglected. That game requires a bit of effort, I could easily hold my footpedal down and afk some flat map while keeping track of the screen for a botcheck, all day. There's certainly nothing wrong with not being able to do that, there will be a ton of people who can't.

>>1143048 I somewhat agree, but honestly, most people even back in 2005 were also optimizing a lot. Everyone was using skill & stat builds back then, the skill building was even more autistic back then, where people would look up follow plans for every single level up. I know it won't be the same, but I've got some friends who also played MS back in the day and hope to reach at least 3rd job with them.

>>1143431 Botting is old meta now. You're going to get sussed out by trooncord patrols. Zoomers play legit + pay2win + buy grinding service when they log out to go to work/school.

>>1143497 The most people did back then was maybe remake a warrior or sin to be dexless after funding to maybe lvl 70-80 (highest lvls pre-orbis release) No one was multi boxing 12 mages on their inbuilt macro storage 20 button fightsticks like they do today. You will see streamers unapologetically do something like buy 100 ap resets to get enough dex to hit something 20 levels higher then reset back to 4 dex when they get enough levels. If you want to save your sanity get to 70 and quit until maple weapons come out otherwise you'll be competing against masters LoL streamers with 2k viewers buying thousands of gachapons

>>1143814 >until maple weapons come out I pray they either get nerfed or cut entirely. Like players in maple land have realized, they're just another bullshit gateway to degenerate builds and warps the gear progression entirely around themselves.

Some of you guys have a really weird and unhealthy relationship with maplestory. You're clearly ridiculously invested in parts of the game that literally nobody cares about. To most people, MS was just a chatroom. The entire game is designed so that you kill 3 monsters, run out of MP, and then sit on a chair chatting with your friends while it recovers. That's Maplestory. Not whatever weird shit you care about like *checks previous posts* "streamers having lots of resources" or "inflation" or... "mages"???? In no universe is anyone asking for classic MS because they want a game where poopsockers don't exist, the economy is good (lmao at the very idea) and all classes are equally good at farming. You and the wider playerbase have completely different expectations of this game. I thought the racial slur comment was especially funny, like the reason private servers die is because there's a massive and vitally important community of nomadic antisemites getting kicked out of one server after another.

>>1103082 They should update the game by putting in map-wide public voice chat. Chatrooms are outdated, everyone's used to VC. To accurately replicate the feeling of walking into the FM in 2005, you need to max out the user's headphones with incomprehensible screeching the moment they walk through the door.

So, what's the catch? I mean other than the potential lack of players, they're bound to do something that'll ruin everything right?

>>1145856 Instead of being the actual original game, it looks like it's a recreation of the original game inside of the modern maplestory client as a separate world you select. This means you have to download current maple to play it (like 50gb) and it might also mean some things aren't exactly like they used to be. From the trailer we can already see stuff like down jumping and being able to use ranged attacks at melee. But I guess the biggest catch would be how they want to monetize the server, whether they will introduce p2w items or let it purely be cosmetics driven.

>>1145263 >>1145397 you're in the absolute minority of MMO players, this is not 2005 anymore, there is nothing novel about a chat room. but i also don't get the idea of being obsessed with being top 100 or whatever when there isn't even a pvp or resource incitement for that. my only gripe with that is leeching, i think they should completely cut it off and make it an unviable leveling strategy.

>>1142639 Did it as a Sniper. Only got one level since, and it was off of Zakum. Getting to 130 off of Vikings was something else, but I have to acknowledge that my class was boosted to kill faster and they used a later iteration of the Vikings map with more sniping platforms.

>>1146423 getting asshurt about leeching is why nexon completely murdered any kind of party play(like LHC) and eventually instanced everything it is fundamentally impossible to create a system that incentivizes people playing together without also potentially enabling those who desire to to leech classic case of overmoderation ruining game mechanics, just ignore it

>>1147763 >just ignore it no, the most optimal way of playing the game being afk is retarded and not healthy for the game.

>>1142911 >twitch shilling in chat no we dont need that. even better if they blacklist it. dont want any streamer targeted ddos periods.

>>1145856 >So, what's the catch? I mean other than the potential lack of players, they're bound to do something that'll ruin everything right? its probably some monetized mobile like version of classic maplestory, many such titles come to mind that went that route of testing the waters through mobile classic first before bringing back a shit classic server

>>1146317 Also looks like everyone has higher than hp values in the vid. If their solution to hp washing is to just bump up everyone's hp growth, I'm totally cool with that. I'm tired of every server's """solution""" is to subject the player to some ridiculous time or meso sink for some bandaid work around to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. Everyone having more hp isn't going to "ruin" the game, nobody but idiots dies to alishar in the first place, and the world will keep turning.

let's face it, 99% of players are just going to speedrun as priests in order to rake all the modern ms rewards as soon as possible then bail the remaining 0.9% are going to be the royals/legends population who will have to forcefully move to classic ms because nexon wanting to monetize classic ms means they will sue the shit out of pservers, and they cannot win a financial attrition battle against a megacorp and the final 0.1% is the true amount of "old good new bad" nostalgiafreaks who will somehow come back/move from modern and manage to stick for longer than a week despite the realization that old ms actually sucked huge dick and nobody treats maplestory as a glorified chatroom anymore, especially now that discord exists

>>1148807 Training with your buds is fun, if you somehow like the Maple grind.

>>1148287 It's going to happen anyway. And it's going to be pure cancer just like it sounds. Streamers will be freely advertising their shit through smegas all day and night, therefore dividing the community by creating large 200+ person guilds that are just there to give them mesos and items and worship them. It already happened on a minor scale in Artale.

>>1148160 then don't complain when they ruin party play (again) maple has 'struggled' with this issue since its inception and nexon's answers have consistently driven the game into its current state as a single player grind fest with a a chat box attached

>>1145263 You just don't get it, people don't think like this anymore. If Nexon says there is a $50 starter package with a pet and gachapons literally everyone will buy it and call you a loser poorfag if you don't. No one is going to go FUCK NEXON THATS STRAIGHT PAY2WIN anymore. Consoomers won. Sloppa won. You will eat up Nexon classic slop and not complain about anything.

>>1150895 There are plenty of people that are proud to never touch world coin items to sell off for mesos.

>>1148807 Damn right I’m going to roll a priest, it’s a straight upgrade to wizard which I would have played anyway.

>>1151725 >selling world coins for mesos that's one of the reasons i dropped Artale around level 100 it was obvious people were getting ahead of me as they sold enough WC to buy 50+ atk claws(75-100mil) ,steelies (150mil) while I just had tobis and a 48 att 'rab

>>1153840 Artale had other frustrating aspects like star drop rates. I never found a damn star in that game ever though I spent an inordinate amount of time at Vikings. Making star drops so rare because you only need one was such a detriment. Assassins had a hard time self farming them (and it's only worth farming ilbis), and people in certain training spots didn't get the jackpot drop to cover potion costs or allow them to make a profit. Not only that, but stars became even cheaper than their OSMS counter parts. Tobis eventually became less than a mil while in OSMS they were hovering around a mil with so many tobis and ilbis in circulation because you only need a single star to upgrade. I heard China is getting their own Maplestory server called Blue Shell or Blue Snail or whatever, hopefully it curbs the amount of CN/TW people coming into a NA server, because those are the biggest pay to get ahead players. Even streamers frequently training with 24/7 snowflakes/flowers were bowing out to Asian players due to their spending habits. It really depends how much value you put on player ranking and gear, because it's more than just money since CN/TW top players account share as well. In the end people that spent minimal to no money get the last laugh knowing Artale was a fictional server on Maplestory Worlds and didn't go balls into it.

>>1158284 >CN/TW people coming into a NA server, because those are the biggest pay to get ahead players. unfortunately the westernized asians in Cali/Toronto that make up 80% of the current playerbase are the exact same. anyone can make $20/hr these days just driving uber or doordash and buy themselves a full week of grinding service on pixelmarket its even worse than account sharing as at least that is done legit, most times these service sellers just use macro/bots as well so there is absolutely no way of ever competing fairly in the race to 200 in classic hell i can already see people setting up deals over discord to sell NX for mesos without even needing an auction house to straight pay2win

another thing is the game is going to go up/down whenever nu-maple is having maintenance as well, basically resetting all the field bosses, FM, and hot spot maps and you will need to base your whole schedule around these downtimes...its going to suck ass...

>>1132223 Maybe so, but imagine the whispers I'll get from all the e-girls once I start dragon roaring in henny 1

>>1164923 there will be no cute girls to groom this time anon, this is actually the deadest of the classic delusions you may get a few terminally mentally challenged 30+ women, and instead of guys pretending to be girls to scam you out of mesos, you will get actual tranny freaks trying to have e-sex with you but not ironically

>>1103082 Let me know when Ragnarok Online Classic comes out. Happy for you guys though.

>>1143413 I refuse to play any game with any level of microtransaction, barring one (1): a subscription fee. Anything outside that, even "harmless" paid skins with "no mechanical advantage" (this is a lie in most cases, in Call of Duty, people who buy skins are proven to be placed in winners' queue). I will NEVER play a game with P2W of any kind whatsoever, even OSRS Bonds style membership.

>in the coming months >later half of 2025 So we can't even think of a release date before spring of 26 then. No point in getting hyped then

>>1167062 Just the fact that it won't be a separate client and we will need to download nu-maple already gives me bad vibes. We won't be able to truly start fresh as all the IGNs will already be taken. There is already a lot of hate for classic on the MapleStory subreddit. Nu-maplers are already asking to tie some kind of rewards from pre-bb to their nu-maple account. It's not going to go well.

>>1143569 just set an alarm if: <you stop moving for X seconds <a player enters the map <you die <you're moved to another map etc pixel bots can handle the stuff above, though it's easier to do if you can read memory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l3FvedlrKo >>1167498 those are all sus behaviors if any troons come to record you

>announcement gave me the itch >can't be arsed to wait for the official release is there any pserver worth playing?

>>1186320 none they are all on borrowed time now, until nexon begin spamming cease and desists plus why burn out now when you will be needing to play 24/7 to achieve any significant progress at classic 1x rates anyway

>>1186320 Even if there were, I wouldn't bother. Don't want to burn yourself out now, and most are kill when classic launches. Legends and royals might survive, but it's mostly people that have already been playing those servers for years anyway and don't want their years of hp washing through vote points to go to waste. These days those servers chew threw new players as fast as they come in. I told them long ago that hp washing and leeching would be the death of them when something better comes along. They refused to listen. They shit in their beds, now they get to live with the consequences.

>>1107152 yea vanilla rates fucking suck dick, so chances are they'll go back to pservers

what does this mean, pre-big bang but post-pirates?

>>1186791 i never for the life of me will get people arguing for hp washing and why both of those servers didn't outright remove them instead of whatever cope shit they did. its the most ass backwards archaic mechanic imaginable. its seriously pisses me off how there are people retarded enough to actually argue in favor of it. /autismvent

>>1148441 I've only found 1 server that increased hp/mp years ago, but it was ran by a dude that pumped n dumped servers so it didnt last long

>>1187000 my dream is a progressive server starting from the earliest versions of only victoria island

>>1186879 Some higher rate servers might stick around for a while for this reason, but then those servers aren't trying to be like the real game anyway. Low rate classic servers are on a timer though.

>>1187026 that would be very cool

>>1163026 >its down for another hour >another hour >another

>>1186320 Check out reboot Hyperion. A fresh reboot world came out last. I've been playing since pre-1st anniversary of pre-bb and find nu-maple reboot is now tolerable and not PAY2WIN. Having a legit vac pet (that can loot multiple platforms at once) is a blessing for the price of $10/month. Gabe added all the cosmetics to steam marketplace so you can even merch cosmetics for steambux. The 20th maple anniversary is coming and they will be adding in more 6th job skills, and giving a 1+4 hyper burner to 260 coupon that gets you set up to solo Nlomien and start making 2bil a week just from weeklies and dailies.

>>1187653 >reboot is now tolerable and not PAY2WIN Repoop is on the verge of getting normalized though. Inkwell realized the casual "P2W IS LE BAD" crowd are hurting his profits, and the servers are actually filled with gacha addicts willing to sink $2000+ into lootboxes as seen with KnY collab. And with steam market (completely going against repoop's philosophy lol) being fully fleshed out, he is going to notice tons of people actually becoming considerable spenders, and finally pull the plug.

>>1191265 >And with steam market (completely going against repoot's philosophy) Are you retarded? how is trading for cosmetics against what reboot is about?

>>1187091 maintenance extensions are the classic experience thobeit

>>1194031 Sorry I'm a retarded regtoid. I kneel to the reboot gods.

>>1195164 don't forget rollbacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHQXlue7Sg

>>1103082 HOLY SHIT IT'S FUCKING HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE

>>1195962 That's hot, don't tempt me with a good time.

>>1123408 Won't stop me and like-minded people from going slow. Poopsockers will always be poopsockers. I just want to play the game without being forced to do event/dailyslop and starforce my way to quitting yet again.

>>1103082 not touching this shit unless i get a asian gf to breed with

Fuck, if it's 1x I will never get to even LPQ. But I will enjoy playing with you, my chan frens

>>1204115 That shit legit scares away many potential new players from modern. Once in a while I'll get a wild hair up my ass and just give modern a chance, and when I make a character, get fifty levels without any effort and a thousand dailies and tutorials blasted up my ass at once, I just nope the fuck out.

>>1204249 You can have an Asian gf but she's in her 40s so it's up to you if you want to risk breeding.

>lived in an extremely abusive household in the 2000s >all i wanted to do was play MMOs but never could >now in my mid-20s >all the stuff from the time is coming back with good remaster projects >will actually get to play good MapleStory and have adventures with friends Between this and getting to talk to Vriska Serket the day before 4chan got hacked, my life has been extended a few olive branches.

>>1195962 I earned over 1m NX from rollback duping and selling it in the MTS Wasted almost all of it cubing Empress gear

Fuck it, I'm hype for OSMS. I was 6 when I first played maple back in 2005, such good memories with my brothers and cousins. The community probably wont be like it was back then and it might not last for a long time, but I'll have a good time playing it again.

>>1206376 We don't know if it will actually be OSMS at this point. Nexon might cave in and start making QOL changes which will put off at least half the vanilla enjoyers, myself included.

And from the way I've seen private servers and Maple worlds apply custom QOL changes....I'd rather just have the original 1:1 experience as the changes always ruin the class balance. It either makes the underused classes completely busted like Paladin becoming #1 tank and dps instead of an awkward STRcel weaker than dk and hero in every way except elements and defense or shadower becoming a cracked NL with flash jump and shadow partner instead of a useless dick ass thief. Any archer changes I saw either turn them into cracked mobbers with NL tier DPS or just straight up give them their nu-maple skills like double hurricane or no cooldown snipe. Pirate changes always make them OP as fuck as well, like infinite boat hp or infinite super sayian form thats also boosted to attack faster and be in iframe constantly.

>>1204443 Just don't make the mistake of playing on non-reboot servers. Those are still at $20 for an 11 cube stack. On reboot you can buy 10 cubes for 120mil from an NPC shop and freely cube any gear to legendary.

>>1204761 >good MapleStory I don't know about that. Maplestory being "good" depended on a lot of factors completely separate from the game itself. Then there's always the chance they go full retard on monetization, as they do. Still, if you have a group of friends it'll probably be fine.

>>1112591 >and have an auction house like maple worlds did Fuck that, just let the community make a new basilmarket if they need to. AH autotransactions kill player interactivity.

I liked that in old maple every class was unique. Everyone didnt have flash jump (dits didnt have it for some reason?), every class had a decent party skill. Did not like hp washing tho

>>1215877 The funny thing is that flash jump is now one of the bottom 3 ways of movement in bossing. The top being mages teleport, allowing for precise dodging and movement while dpsing. The second best are "rush" skills, new KMS update give everyone a rush skill that moves you just a certain distance straight. Precise moveskill you can weave into attacks. Now flash jump is the worst bossing movement because it covers so much distance it's not precise and can land you into ohkos just from momentum.

>>1122696 mapleroyals was active, but i still got bored of it because i'm not 14 anymore.

>>1220079 That's just too funny. Flash jump is by far the best mobility skill in classic by a country mile, especially before 4th job is introduced, because mobility skills are rare and good ones even rares, so simply the fact that it moves the user so far automatically makes it the best one. But in modern it's shit because there's a million mobility skills and it moves you *too* far. Nexon devs are truly clowns.

>>1222400 Classes are not unique anymore, its a shame.

>>1215877 >every class had a decent party skill. Lol.

>>1224271 He is half right, every explorer "path" has a decent party skill >mages has Holy symbol >archers have sharp eyes >warrior has hyper body >thief has haste >pirate has speed infusion I may be forgetting some.

I played Maple Story during its early peak in my early teens, back then when the 4th job did not exist, when Global Maple Story and Europe Maple Story were two things and Europeans were forced to play on the latter Why would I want to play this? The only thing I'd say I miss is the classic Victoria Island

>>1122696 >Private Classic servers never really did it for me. People forget that part of the appeal of old Maple was the feeling of it being alive and partying with people and private servers all feel super dead. This ironically also applies to our current 8chan/4chan situation today, down to a T. Especially on this board. But people are not ready for this conversation.

What's the appeal of Maple Story? Asking as someone who like Guild Wars 2

>>1226200 Back then it was chatting with people while you grind away. Nowadays who knows.

>>1226200 >>1226318 >back then Chatroom with cute artstyle >now Cute artstyle

>>1225009 Everyone is split into microdiscord communities where people farm clout of whoever is in there. Everyone else is ok with just discussing the game on reddit. These two things hold us anons back greatly from enjoying the game together. Our only options are to play the game alone, solo until we realize we are not the target audience anymore. That ship has sailed and only trooncords and minmax zoomers will be on classic among clueless boomers who don't know the online environment has changed to be hostile and not welcoming. Unironically the only thing anons can find in classic maple is probably some trooncord or zoomercord to be on bottom of the hierarchy in. The only other option is just not playing.

>>1226200 For me its >Cute artstyle and 2D platforming + 2D action rpg >Lots of branching classes >Fun to explore world. Maple Story's world was simple and yet fairly big. I think it was how there were so many hidden areas. You could press up in the most random locations and it could take you to a totally different area. And what this anon said>>1226318 Maple Story, or at least classic Maple Story, is old school vanilla type MMO grind. These kinds of MMOs were made only to socialize with others which made grinding not as bad.

Classic Maple WILL succeed. I WILL have fun. Doomers WILL pretend they never made these posts.

Scared of what HP washing might look like. I think it's a neat yet bad idea on it's own as a build option, but the P2W element is absolute cancer.

You simply can't just log in and hit mushrooms today and log out. The gaming environment has changed. Zoomers can now grind as much as fangblade and tiger while watching anime or tv shows on a 2nd monitor while chatting on discord so the game itself becomes a tertiary interest for secondaries who heard about the good old pre-bb times. If it goes like Artale, release KPQ will be packed, you will literally need to do a 24 hour grind to get to a decent enough level for KPQ and hope your party is all mages or sins, if it's not it's worse than grinding. If you don't get to 21 and start KPQing asap you will be forced to solo grind/quest to at least 30. That's already a way different experience than what we experienced as a child. Just constant pressure and stress to not fall behind. If it's Victoria Island only, then people will grind all the way to 70-80 instead of wait for orbis+ LPQ release. There won't be any "grinding parties" for anyone besides the tip top players looking to get max exp and fuck off to solo grind areas later. If you don't already have a group set up and race to 200 you will most likely be playing solo or having to wait/search discord for hours to get a shitty 30 min grind party while theres asians account sharing 24 hour grinding and buying out all the hot shot drops for pennies until the average player is higher and economy gets ruined. Everyone will be selling the same things now making them worthless after a while. People who spent most of their first week or two doing 8+hrs grinds can now kill golems and start farming GFAs to sell for 2-3mil a pop while KPQers are struggling to make 200k for a repot.

>>1103633 Most likely they got mogged by that browser-based Maplestory remake with an engine that doesn't suck and they're trying a WoW Classic thing

Also anyone from China/Korea/SEA playing will have an huge adventage due to Nexons California based maintenance schedule. It will be midnight for them when the game comes up after maintenance so they can get best FM spots, find cheapest items, train on empty maps when majority are logged off. Any western grinder will be cucked and have to suck off china cock to get a boss party with chinamen who will laugh at you. Source:artale rankings, even Niru, the first lvl 300 on GMS, got mogged by a bunch of chinamen https://rank.artale.one/en

>>1226200 It is actually a pretty unique game in style and gameplay (and so successful in this regard that none of the MapleStory clones/competitors survived) The current version of the game is vastly superior to the upcoming official classic version a few nostalgiafags are hyping up, especially since they began actually taking the "Story" part of the name a bit more seriously But thanks to WoW ruining the entire MMO genre and slant eyes being addicted to gambling, MapleStory wasn't safe from the P2W menace

>>1226200 Like someone else said, the world is really impressive. It's very big and feels like a challenge to traverse. Getting from one place to another is a whole platforming challenge of its own, and the game encourages you to explore because there are quests and shit hidden in areas they have no business being in (although quests usually aren't worth it). Modern Maple has completely lost that appeal because every class has crazy mobility skills within an hour of playing, and the maps are all small and relatively flat. Exacerbated because you just oneshot monsters with your broken screenwide leveling skill instead of having to move around them. It was like this in Maplestory 2 as well by the way, I think Nemi worked on that and she still had the touch. The world was fucking massive and very well designed, and then the moron devs wasted that and turned it into a generic theme park quest2cap game where all you did was click text boxes to level up for 50 hours straight

>>1228436 >and turned it into a generic theme park quest2cap game where all you did was click text boxes to level up for 50 hours straight I'm still mad. That large world and no reason to visit 80% of it. Grinding didn't even give real exp,and your reward at the end is WoW-tier raidlogging bullshit, with classes that spam one to two buttons in combat.

>>1227614 me personally i will be doing all the quests and just chilling. miss those private servers where you get a ring that progressively gets more stats as you finish more quests, made the completionist aspect of it that much more fun.

meipursutori [shrieking intensifies]

>>1114234 Literally this, especially when pvp was still around. That was the best time to be playing

>>1228603 Yeah. A lot of people complain abiut early MS's slow leveling but they're completely missing the point. It forces you to explore the world because you're not always going to have the best grinding spot. It also creates a bridge between poopsockers and less poopy players. If you can gain 50 levels in a day, a semi-casual player who takes a day or two off work can be 100 levels ahead of you in no time. Imagine striking up a friendship with a guy one day and the next time you log on he's lightyears ahead of you and you'll never talk to him again unless you grind twice as hard as he did to catch up. When it takes 50 hours to level up, your friend is now half a level ahead of you instead of 100. You can still play.

I liked getting the PQ items like slime shoes and R&J pendant. Shame no one really does PQs in private servers. idk if anyone will in official either

>>1228745 >Imagine striking up a friendship with a guy one day and the next time you log on he's lightyears ahead of you and you'll never talk to him again Truuue. MMOs need to go back to the days where you were expected to actually play in each level range for a matter of days/weeks.

If I wanted to be a mage in classic there's no reason not to be priest, right? F/P seems attractive with poison letting them train anywhere, but all that amounts to is better solo grinding with little other benefit.

>>1229490 pretty much I/L has the peakest aesthetics in classic but unless they do any sort of balancing, there's pretty much no reason to play anything but bishop its kit just shits on every class hs+genesis is peak for mindless grinding its overall kit makes it a dream class for solo players while very far away from being the best single target, you're even more mandatory than dexless sin in boss parties this is why they're going to dominate the classic population, nobody in their right mind is going to invest time in more than one character there, and bishop is the easiest pick

>>1230166 People will play the game for fun. They'll make a Spearman and invest 8 points in INT and constantly die trying to get to a map they have no business being in. It'll be fun.

>>1228663 The really, really early questing sucked dick, but I think many forget that they added a lot of quests to the low levels and actually give a worthwhile amount of exp. It's not only possible, but even viable to level up through questing all the way to the 50's, and make some nice money off it too. It's not as fast as pure grinding, but it's nice to have some goals other than grinding horny mushroom for ten levels then grinding kpq for ten level, etc. How much of that is going to be there at launch though.... dunno.

>>1231258 My dumb ass once climbed all the way down to Omega Sector. When I realized that I would have to climb all the way back up, I considered quitting that character right then and there.

>>1231309 I did similar shit back in the day. Good times exploring.

>>1227614 Level 21 doesn't take 24 hours and a level 21 lukless can solo KPQ including king slime. You can actually get 30 in under a day. Only problem is mesos for new magicians. If people funnel money to them, they can just carry the whole party. Most people couldn't KPQ back in the day either unless they woke up at 2-3AM. Everyone had ACs (autoclickers) and/or mashed and every channel was just packed. People sat around chatting and tracking and hoped they would get in a few times a day. It was way less efficient than training normally but special feeling. I'm a former tryhard. This same thing will happen again however if you're a sweat you can kinda get into KPQ a little early on day one. Just grind like hell and get in on the first wave. >no friends comments in the thread tbh you'll make friends as you play. Not real friends but common interest associates. And you're already right here in a huge Maplestory community so it's not like you wouldn't be able to form a party. People are too tsundere to admit imageboards are social media too because they hate tranny namefag circlejerks.

>>1231889 lv30 is definitely doable in one day at 1x rates, though it's not fun marathoning that.

>>1231258 wake up gramps, we are in 2025, not 2005

>>1231889 >Level 21 doesn't take 24 hours not in modern pre-bb servers like royals/legends/artale...yeah thats a few hours at most but if its really from scratch...like v0.1, without first job kill quests giving ~200 potions.... you will need to get really really lucky to have any money to afford potions to spam magic claw as a mage, level 10-15 might take as long as 10-20 for others warriors wont have enough meso to spam hp potions for slash blast but can still level off single attacks to 20 sins will need to do 1 L7 and 1 single star throw to preserve mana while training and save mesos to buy new stars/recharge until level 20 or so all the mob drops are like 5-10k in npc which gets you 50 pots ant tunnel/wild boars/evil eyes all the drops npc for 20-50k each which lets you buy 200-300potions and start grinding for an hr+ theres going to be an xbox hueg difference between people who stop at 21 on day 1 and people who already did KPQ and are 30 before logging off...and these diff will keep growing as there will be less training spots

>>1234009 Not trying to step into your conversation, I just want to say that stuff like >without first job kill quests giving ~200 potions.... you will need to get really really lucky to have any money to afford potions to spam magic claw as a mage, level 10-15 might take as long as 10-20 for others warriors wont have enough meso to spam hp potions for slash blast but can still level off single attacks to 20 sins will need to do 1 L7 and 1 single star throw to preserve mana while training and save mesos to buy new stars/recharge Is exactly the kind of stuff I want to relive. If this is going to be some kind of QoL-ified funserver where you smoothly progress with no friction and no money problems then idgaf.

>>1234009 I NEED THIS AGAIN, MAKE LEVELING SLOW AGAIN IN GAMING

>>1234009 Wage cuck bros...

>>1234408 WFH chads rise up, this is going to be the comfiest game release yet. I'll have even more time than when I was a kid, plus I'm slightly smarter now.

>>1234408 Don't worry, they'll keep the p2w so you will have plenty of time to catch up with the neet f2p pservfags who will be too busy farming mesos to buy gacha items.

Ahh the days of rationing potions on my warrior because meso intake was less than the cost of pots and I need (not really) the next shiny weapon upgrade. It might sound like a children yearning for the mines joke, but most of your money going towards potions is unironically a good thing. Classic doesn't really have any other meso sinks, so when potion costs are no longer a worry, inflation is right around the corner. This is why NLC pots are simultaneously so good and horrible.

>>1234576 But grinding is the entire game you are paying money just to grind more

>>1234009 >afford potions to spam magic claw as a mage no one in their right mind is doing that though on a fresh server though it is 1 point into energy bolt then not touching magic claw until the mp passives are maxxed and you're likely still not touching magic claw until it's like lv10 or so, basically bolt all the way until unlocking kpq

>>1234576 Are 90 day cosmetics still a thing? Hope not, I wouldn't mind getting something just to fulfill my poorfag childhood wishes.

>>1234663 You haven't experienced pre-bb with a modern audience yet then. Streamers will go magic claw first then sell pets as gifts for like 500k each to their viewer simps and be able to have enough potions until 30. Streamer sins will have stars donated to them and possibly GFAs/work gloves. Warrior streamers will get a ton of people donating useless accuracy scrolls and such so they'll never miss and can play with 30 dex

>>1234433 zoomers have infinite time as well with no obligations, if even niru got btfo i think us anons have no chance

>>1234643 2x exp coupons and drops that lasted for 2 or 4 hours existed back then in the cash shop and some gacha items sold for quite a bit, so you could actually pay to grind less. >>1234703 I haven't played modernMS but I heard that they have some permanent cosmetics, though not for everything. Some other anon can clarify more.

I really hope this is a progression server. I'm of the opinion that MS went to shit sooner than bb, so just being "pre-bb" means nothing to me. I need to go further back than that.

>>1235866 I agree. Vic island only for a month or two. The sleepy island sanctuary dungeon and its mobs are neat, tauros are such cool mobs, but their hp to exp ratio is awful so you only hunt them for the highest level gear. Which means the place immediately dies and gets abandoned for the rest of time the second orbis gets released. Unless they get updated to not have horribad exp ratios.

>>1235866 You prefer stopping on third job explorers or 4th job? I had a lot of people tell me third job was a lot more balanced between the explorers.

I wish maplestory as a whole was more than "press 1 key for 5 hours". Why is nexon so retarded

Post yfw jump quests

>>1236944 we know it just turns into nu-maple trash where you're mashing 10 different FMA skills with 3 sec cooldown

Royals or Legends? Haven't played in 10+ years

>>1242659 neither, either wait for classic or try artale

>>1236944 that's a pre-cuck issue though if you want to destroy your wrists, current maple's got plenty of high apm classes blaster, evan, cadena, khali just pick your poison and enjoy your dance dance revolution gameplay

>>1234911 Why do people keep using zoomer as a pejorative as though you weren't the same age as them with the same amount of free time when MS came out

>>1240742 God I love jump quests. Actual platforming in a platforming game is incredibly fun. It's one of the things that Guild Wars 2 did right. Of course, my main was a cleric so I had a vested interest in learning to do them quickly and accurately, but I enjoyed speeding through all of them, especially Sleepywood, not just the subway.

nu-maplers assemble lets drive these nostalgiacuck out of their home

>>1243796 Watching people get filtered by zakjq will be so good, too bad they won't force 800x600.

>>1243796 Indeed, maple feels very good as a actual platformer. >>1243915 ZakJQ is fucking easy, only annoying part is the last jump of the second stage.

>>1242659 Legends has classic-ish rates and claims its bot free, but is ran by a literal tranny that thinks defaming is le bad Royals is bot infested like crazy, mods powertrip (tho that goes for everything), i think they have some post bb stuff? Unless im mixing it up with other servers

>>1244407 >ZakJQ is fucking easy I had this same thought, until I started playing some prebb servers and witnessed multiple people consider quitting or breaking rules to get zjq service. The average person is useless.

>>1244407 It can be hard if people don't know how to work with and against knockback from hazards.

>>1244689 Current generation of faggots lack skill for platformers.

>>1228704 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZOvQnsBq0

>>1243796 They're not my favorite thing, but they're a nice side activity. I've done the shumi jump quests a bunch of times and gotten good at them because they give nice exp and rewards. >>1244407 I've done it, but I don't think it's *easy*. But it says a lot that some people are so bad at platforming that they need to pay someone else real money for hand them their account for zjq services.

>>1244897 I find it easy, the zak ones at least, maple has a lot of harder jump quests. People are just lazy and ragequit after the first fail.

>>1243408 Zoomers basically have no concept of fun. They need to be told what is fun and can't create their own fun.

This is cool and all but how about they fix the issues people had with MS2 and bring that back

>>1245145 I wish, but they'd need to rebuild the entire game at that point which won't happen.

>>1245145 Nexon wont waste any money to fix that game, they obviously don't think its worth. But a more chill MS2 would be cool, i played when it launched in korea and it was very enjoyable even with the language barrier, even more the customization stuff, playing custom music and shit was extremely fun.

i got the emo skramz playlist buldin up bros for those 1000 hour grind

>>1243796 >my main was a cleric so I had a vested interest in learning to do them quickly and accurately elaborate

We will be there on Day 1. First month of this will be like an event similar to classic wow's first launch, I know the fun will taper off and that's okay.

>>1243911 He's a zoomer.

maps should be instanced if you are not in a party and i will die on this hill >b-but ks wars are f-fun! g-griefing is le fun and peak mmo n-nostalgia! we are not edgy teenagers anymore, 99% of the people going to play classic are 30-40+ old fart neckbards i don't want tranny circlejerks bothering my comfy mindless grind because i told their grooming guild to fuck off

>>1246489 Who is we?

>>1246573 Just run a local server and play by yourself, you're supposed to interact in an mmo. You fucking loser.

>>1245360 ms2 was a really fucking cool game that got completely fucking butchered by awful design decisions, wtf is wrong with gooks

>>1246149 Gotta channel surf for an empty wraiths spot as fast as you can

>>1246573 instanced mobs, like they do in grandis now you can watch other retards grind poorly and die without losing exp

>>1103082 runescape was ahead of it's time look all these bigger faggot finally catching up.

Do you think they'll actually finally get aggressive in trying to shut down Royals and Legends?

>>1247305 actually how long have they been working on the classic server? do you think they were working on it when they shut down yeou in late 2023? do the proprietors of royals and legends just have way better opsec and thus can't even receive the C&D letter?

>>1247305 I've always wondered why Royals and Legends had immunity. I was a part of many v.01 servers over the years and they mostly got got on technicalities.

>>1247305 they're not running a charity here, classic won't be free they definitely will try to get rid of their competitors, even more now that nexon will have legal ownership over old school maplestory

>>1247742 we know how awful nexon's lawyers can be after what they did to dark and darker i'm sure they've been trying to take down royals and legends for over a decade

>>1246573 It's an mmo, it's kind of the point to force player interaction. And as much as I hate faggots camping bosses they're way over leveled for, doing what you're suggesting would instantly drive the worth of scrolls and stars to worthlessness.

>>1246573 It's not about griefing. It's about making a decision between staying in a contested map vs exploring the world and finding another map to level in. Same shit with jumping down through platforms BTW. It's not "QoL". It makes it easier to monopolize maps and removes an incentive to go find a shittier map that's easier to monopolize. Classic MS isn't just about theoretical number optimization grinding, it's supposed to have complex issues to tackle. But people keep trying, over and over, to remove all those complex issues in the name of "QoL".

>>1246573 I miss screaming on FM for hours to sell stuff, talking to people and shit. That still happens on private servers but with less people.

>>1247531 No fucking idea if Matt and kimmy's identities are know. >>1247544 Dont Phoenix still exist?

>>1246682 They have a grind fetish, seriously, the social part of maple 2 was top tier.

>>1247531 god it should be like yeou where you can play in your browser flyff did that when they came back

>>1248294 Yeah playphoenix.net Phoenix is not so good because it advanced too far. There was another one called rsvp some years back but I'm not sure if it's still around. These are the modern ones I've kept up with. Haven't been in it for years. A friend of mine said a new server is being worked on and has entered beta but I don't have the details. Haven't spoken to him in a long time. This was before the classic announcement so maybe it'll get shut down anyway.

>>1103082 Holy shit I did not expect something like this to happen anytime soon. Definitely going to enjoy exploring and doing quests whenever it launches. Hopefully they replicate the older artstyle(s) too, not a fan of how overtly shiny and smooth the current visuals are.

>>1245360 I remember playing closed beta for the NA release with the rest of 4chan and we had a great time. The combat felt ok-ish but fun seeing so many people playing at once. The custom skins was downright hilarious because it was nothing but people posting rage wojaks and anime girls and the popular ones at the time was FranXX. The whole experience was just a time capsule on what was popular at the time.

>>1248628 >flyff did that when they came back I heard they went balls out on the cash shop.Which turned a lot of people away.

>>1249713 I've made 200k blue crystals from miku stuff and early gacha gooner outfits

And yeah doing absolutely nothing with the zones and the mobs in them besides putting in a main quest along the path was criminal. They should've let us grind out like 10k-100k mobs before we can get to next zone. Then put mobs that give 2-3x exp in the PVP zones or let waves of invading elite mobs try to kill off botters.

>>1249713 Yeah the CBT was extremely fun, in every single respect but the actual progression mechanics. The moment-to-moment gameplay was fun, the world was pretty, the minigames and customization shit was all top-notch. I had a fantastic time. I remember leveling a character entirely by playing Claire de Lune on a piano in an early starting zone while AFK. That's such a fun little idea, getting rewarded to that degree just for playing some music in-game. And then of course, that character couldn't do any endgame raids and shit because you were forced to complete all the mandatory story quests to get unlocks and bonus points.

>>1247842 Honestly I think it would be funny if classic didn't have jump down. It's always touted as some mandatory QoL feature, but the original game release didn't have it and maps were designed around not having it, that's exactly why some maps are a pain to ascend or descend without it. I'm not saying it shouldn't have down jump, but the absolute salt and seething at its absence would be funny as hell.

>>1250764 This, it absolutely doesn't fall under "QoL" if the game maps were explicitly designed around it not existing.

>>1247825 Maple was about player interaction until sometime way into post bb where a bunch of revamps made it a solo until end game thing

>>1245145 I'd play an active ms2 private server if there's one. Hopefully not run by chinks.

>>1245145 As much as I enjoyed MS2(pic very related), it just wasn't Maplestory. The only open world mob grinding I did was for my epic pet. I wouldn't be mad if they rereleased it though, sitting in town and playing music was my favorite.

>>1224289 If you pick the actual two mage branches you're shit out of luck because who gives a fuck about mediation? White Knights and Crusaders get jack shit as well. Rage that gets supplanted by an attack pot and... a class with no party buffs? Lol.

>>1227826 Niru didn't grind the whole time. If you want to compare to a legit NA grinder then you look at #1, Ag. But yeah, he use to gap everyone, now it's a 2 level difference. Almost Monto dropped right off even though he was a grinding machine at PW parties. I think January DDoS shit killed his drive. The truth is if you aren't early to anywhere, you aren't going to profit like you could. I'm sure there were people that could sell clean 36 attack scarabs for 50 mil. I got one when they were about 16 mil. For awhile now they have been just vendor shit. It's like needing to get in on PW parties so you can profit off of Dragon's Tail drops, or early to Klang and Lorang to get good money off of a Yellow umbrella. Early movers have an advantage selling items. Late movers have an advantage buying a decent amount of items. >>1228745 It's more around 5~12 hours to level pre-3rd job grinding spots depending upon your level and grind spot.

>>1252212 niru was still top 5 on artale for the first 1-2 months before the china invasion >#1, Ag. But yeah, he use to gap everyone, now it's a 2 level difference. Almost Monto dropped right off even though he was a grinding machine at PW parties. I think January DDoS shit killed his drive. nah lets face it they got btfo by china in the race to 200 a mage losing his 30+ level gap to lvl 150 bossers the moment they start doing HT effectively making the past 6 months of 12+ hr grinds worthless that's classic maple for you

this is who ur gonna race to 200 against lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rezLLMhwSM

>>1252824 you get that much exp from HT? I was an I/Lcuck back in the day so I wouldn't know anything about that.

>>1253041 the top 3 heads give as much as 9 zaks worth of exp, body + wings give about 3 zaks of exp tail + legs are about 2 zaks worth of hp so yeah its almost 2 weeks of daily Zakums just for one full run

>>1253106 Jesus. One more strike against my option of playing wizard instead of cleric.

>>1253001 i'm not sure why it's always "race" with this thread, maple was just fun to play around in

>>1253481 its the only thing worth doing nostalgia run lasts like 30 min otherwise

>>1253481 you aren't 12 anymore, there's nothing "fun" about loitering around you know what's going to be fun? bossing everyone's starting fresh, there are no paid carries, no turbo whales nuking HT in one burst you actually have to be mindful about your resources and you can't just facetank attacks like a retard yes there will have lots of speedrunning tranny parties who will grind 24/7 in order to be world first and fastest daily killers but to the average player, this is going to be an opportunity to actually have fresh fun, since in modern maplestory you're not allowed into the latest bosses until you pass several interviews about your gear, stats, BA, bank account

>>1253715 poopsocking is never worth doing, and racing in an mmo is always poopsocking

>>1252109 Was combat orders not in prebb? Swear it was.

>>1254423 irregardless your experience will be ruined by poopsockers either way if you poopsock or not if you give up before trying you may as well not play at all or get your 30 min dose of killing snails and getting the chair on a pserver

>>1253106 Another reason people fucking hated 4th job wiz design shunting them out of all bossing parties.

>>1103082 Fun fact, the original devs never left. They've been working on the modern game and are part of the reason why it is the way it is.

whats with all the doom and gloom

>>1254933 It's just one of the things that follow fighting games and the culture surrounding them. At the end of the day, find a game and community that you can mesh with and go from there.

>>1252109 On that topic, is Threaten ever decent? It looks like ass.

>>1255440 It might have worked on bosses (so reducing their damage slightly) but I could be thinking of a later patch.

Looking at threaten on HS, it reduces attack and defense by a percentage, so it definitely didn't work on bosses, at least not the big ones like zakum. You know, the funny thing about these mob debuff skills is that they don't even need to be that powerful against bosses to be useful. Let's say something reduced zakums def by 50 and took 25 more damage from physical attacks as a result. It's a tiny amount, but when it's being slammed by thirty people for like a thousand hits per minute, that shit adds up over half an hour. Disorder is much weaker but I don't think even that works on bosses.

>>1257193 i used to be almost fascinated watching korean groups taking down new bosses (to me, we didn't have them yet) and seeing all these shadow partners and just streams of ilbis/crystal ilbis

>>1257571 >they release classic without 4th jobs >as result the dexless sin bandwagon is going to be several times bigger than the genesis bandwagon >so priests might not have a hard time finding boss parties due to overpopulation at all yep it's decided magician i go

>>1257678 Assuming we get to 4th job eventually, I wonder if they’ll fuck with mage ultimates or not release NLC potions. That affects my wizard choice greatly.

>>1186320 play revivalstory, it's the oldest versioned fully released server right now, theres some buffs to make up for lower than retail pop. also ironman mode if you wanna play solo. https://linktr.ee/revivalstory

>>1258059 what's the population like?

>>1257678 Was crossbowman on the lower end of popularity ? Because thats what I played as a child then rerolled into a bowman. I'm going all in on crossbow this time and nothing can stop me

>>1258432 They were strictly inferior in 4th job (didn't stop me from maining it), but before that they're pretty good for being able to freeze things.

>>1258537 Thats ok, I never metaslaved on maplestory. As long as I can play the game and the class isn't expensive to maintain throughout playing. I remembered crossbowman being more rare at the time in like 2006/2007. I remembered sins being literally everywhere. Bandits were kind of rare too

>>1258432 Definitely. Slower attack speed than bows and a second job aoe that can only shoot straight ahead vs bows that got one that could shoot upwards or downwards with a massive explosion that could hit platforms above and below. They were just straight up inferior to bows.

>>1258724 >and the class isn't expensive to maintain throughout playing That's pretty much why I avoided meta classes. Their shit was WAY too expensive.

>>1258763 I always did this back in the day as well. 100% of the population were metaslaves so if you picked an unwanted weapon type then you basically got every single gear upgrade along the way for free and could freely farm up money for a second character if you really want to use the good stuff.

>>1258738 Fuck, you just unlocked my memories of being jealous of Arrow Bomb.

>>1258338 add "huehue" to the end of every one of your sentence and you'll fit in.

god i hope its just victoria island for a least the first month, no free market, everyone can yell in perion channel 1 like the game was meant to be

>>1254933 Not dooming per se but anons deserve to know the current facts, we've been through a good 15+ years of private servers by now and have seen what happens to servers that do QoL or skill balance - they quickly turn into nu-maple. We don't want any of that "rewards for nu-maple for playing classic" shit The classic has to be 1:1, 1x vanilla rates. No QoL, class imbalance is part of the game and it takes years of shitty pserver attempts for people to realize it

Isnt meso explosion quite OP if there is only third jobs? Meso guard too.

>>1261752 Yeah if you can afford it.

who else /reverse pescas/ here pure kino item

>>1261789 I honestly love how maplestory weapons often used to go from silly to cool designs, from stuff like surfboards and a staff that is a literal mushroom to giant cool looking swords and more "normal" looking fantasy weapons.

How does dexless sin even work, and why bother? I don't really play sins so I never knew the answer to this. A lot of people seem to go low dex. Does dex determine accuracy for sins? >you can just scroll for dex By that logic, you can just scroll for luk. I must be retarded because I'm a mage main in classic.

>>1261849 im more curious about STR dits. Were those ever worth it?

>>1261860 I think they had different damage variance but I forget when they're better and worse. Tight numbers are probably better for consistent training.

>>1261849 Lucky seven's and triple throw's damage raises a lot more from LUK if i remember correctly.

>>1261849 Dex is only needed for weapon and armor, accuracy is given by dex and luk. It’s why accuracy doesn’t exist for thieves and archers. It really needs maple weapons though, and in classic those only dropped during the anniversary event.

>>1261823 yeah its crazy we used to stare hours at the icons in the game and notice every little small detail about it and even make up headcanon for the items like Doombringer being Jr balrogs sword when he was a human

>>1261860 strdit = better if you can 1shot, but typically weaker, their weapons are sometimes 1 speed higher str + dex + luk = higher min dmg like if your range is 572 ~ 1034 on a regular dit then a strdit would be something like 685 ~ 949

>>1261849 you get higher max dmg on a dexless until about lvl 60-70, you typically have +50-100 more LUK than dex sins at that level you basically take advantage of that DEX scrolls are cheaper than LUK you need around a ~42+ atk claw to compete with a ~30 atk meba/maple claw vic island endgame is scarab 45-50 atk

>>1261860 STR dits are better if you have a Dragon Khanjar, which is their shield that has a lot of base watk. Only thing is that it probably won't be obtainable at the start cause it came out way later in GMS.STR dits were a joke in the community before then.

>>1261752 Sure, if you've got money pouring out of your ass. For the other 99% of people, it's too expensive to be more than a gimmick or add on skill to pickpocket.

>>1261849 L7 completely ignores dex in the equation for damage and has an obscene damage multiplier with luck. Because of this you want to hard prioritize luck and have only the bare minimum dex needed for your gear. This is why maple weapons are so ridiculous on sins and why low/no dex sins damage soars way above normal dex sins, which already is higher than everyone elses damage. And while I agree with scrolling for luck, dex scrolls are available for nearly everything and tend to be more accessible.

>>1262511 Still good if you are one of the first people to do zak or ht.

>>1116721 Rein, as in "horse reins" or "reindeer"

ngl im kinda tempted to play a progressive server. I miss Croosade and Swordie

>>1276192 wasn't Eluna the swordie spiritual successor

I wonder if Warriors/Archers will get nu-Final Attack or the literal DPS loss Final Attack.

>>1276629 says its up to date on gtop. gay

>>1277253 How exactly did they end up smoothing that one out in the end? I remember being baffled it actually made you do an attack animation and wished it was just a free extra attack roll.

>>1277591 It became a free extra attack roll.

>>1277253 I hope they fix it. It's easy to just write it off and forget it existed since that's what people did for years, but it clearly wasn't meant to be so bad it ends up being a thirty skill point dps loss. All it has to do is mimic the aoe attack and its damage and boom its useful. Some people don't like the additional frames of animation since it briefly takes away control, and they're free to not take it, but it shouldn't be an outright dead skill. Whatever the case, I don't think they're going to just leave a thirty point trap skill that lowers your dps. They may not have known better back then, but we do now.

I have fond memories of my friends and I getting to level 25 on the starter island and just absolutely refusing to leave, making fun of all the actual noobs there.

>>1280280 There’s a whole lot of skills that are useless or functionally useless. I’m curious how many will be looked at.

>>1280409 Sure, there are plenty of bad skills. Bandit's endure that allows slightly more natural hp and mp regen only while hanging from a rope doesn't exactly push the needle. But final attack is in a different league because it actually and measurably lowers your aoe mobbing damage. And mobbing damage is what you're dealing out 99% of the time on every class with access to final attack. It says a lot when dumping second job points into improve hp recovery and iron body is the better option.

bros im going to make a paladin two handed blunt weapon

>>1280748 based Still not locked down what I want yet outside of the vague idea that I want to build a guy for 1/2shot burst damage so I can farm low enemy density zones and avoid the swarm at all the well known aoe spots.

>>1280748 based, my friend is doing that too After a week of autistic deliberating about meta, farming, and training speeds, I settled on… Bandit. It has the most interesting kit throughout all four jobs, and enjoys a lot of convenience.

>>1280742 was band of thieves ever considered "good"? or was it just flashy

>>1281076 lol no While it does finally give them something to hit up to six mobs, dagger range is short and the other "thieves" that hit other mobs only happens if you hit something yourself, pretty much forcing you to face tank shit in order to hit multiple mobs. On top of this, the devs seem to have forgotten to account for daggers having much lower attack power than most weapons, especially compared to warriors who mostly use two handed weapons with bigger multipliers than one hand weapons, so while its listed to do something like 190% when maxed, it's really no better than slash blast damage... except by this point warriors are getting things to raise their damage even further. (combo, element charges, dragon fury/crusher) So it's essentially a worse slash blast that you don't get until third job. Yeah, the bandit class was absolute meme tier and one of the least popular classes for good reason. Especially when set next to the assassin class that the devs couldn't stop ejaculating over.

is there something like a FFXII MMO like a game where you automate most of the grinding with official bot tools and take it easy while chatting/alt-tabbing and doing anything else these MMOs keep coming back but fuck if I'm gonna waste a second youth grinding manually on fucking MS I just wanna meet people

>>1281358 >Chief Bandit on a fresh classic server where money won't be available to explode things The play might be to farm scrolls to sell just to be able to train...

>>1281435 I say all that stuff as someone whose very first character all the way back twenty years ago was a bandit. I want to like the class, but unless they get some big buffs I wont be making another one. Probably go with an i/l mage or DK.

>>1281458 Hey what a coincidence, I was an I/L mage. Don't. Be a healcuck or pick your DK.

Maybe i'll remake a char on royals or something just to scratch that itch in the meantime. gtop100 is down to 2 pages of maple servers. Is there nothing nowadays? where do people shill their servers?

>>1281392 Learn to code and write your own bot. I bot in retail Maplestory. As long as you write your own bot, you will never get caught. Hackshield is only checking for known executables posted on public forums.

>>1280742 >Bandit's endure that allows slightly more natural hp and mp regen only while hanging from a rope doesn't exactly push the needle. I always found it enviable that they could AFK at white fangs and lycans without drinking those cold pots. >>1283557 Do you bot 24/7 or do you just bot like 10 hours a day while asleep and away? What's the longest you've run a bot? Do you have anti-detection measures like varied attack times, not moving to the exact same pixel over and over, etc? Like how does it actually work? I've botted Runescape a bit but not with my own bot.

>>1283557 Big doubt unless you love just love blowing through accounts and getting banned doesn't bother you.

>>1280910 sindit?

>>1286185 Yeah, no reason not to be sindit. Double Stab is ass.

>>1287099 you max savage blow first right?

>>1287423 Yeah, followed by the usual 5 mastery > 6 booster > max mastery

Weird, I was hopping for trannies to go back to 4chins already

https://www.nexon.com/maplestory/micro-site/playtest They’re taking applications for a play test, but it’s in person.