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Anonymous 04/24/2025 (Thu) 21:32:39 Id: 2abd43 No. 1246578

hello 8/v/ I would like to discuss a topic that was impossible to talk about on deadchan because of certain schizos. that subject is trends in sexualization in vidya, specifically in asian countries. historically japan has had a reputation for sexualized content in vidya. you would look at games like dead or alive xtreme or oneechanbara and think "this kind of game could only be made in japan." lately though it seems like this trend has been reversing. jap games are not as sexy as they used to be. dead or alive no longer has pole dancing. the titties in anime titty games are no longer as big or as exposed as they used to be. many people would blame this on western censorship, but I don't think that's entirely the case. you can see this trend even in games with little exposure in the west, especially in the realm of gachashit. if you look at popular jap games like umamusume or gakuen idolm@ster all you will find are safe and conservative designs. the trend may be most apparent with dead or alive penis vacation. both the new characters and swimsuit designs are noticeably more restrained than what you saw in doax2 and wouldn't be out of place in an idolshit game. japan has always had a preference towards cuteness, even over sexiness, and I think this current trend is just a continuation of this preference. it may even be that highly sexualized characters were actually because of western influence, and now that the west has become gay and pozzed japan is returning to its natural interests. it's also worth noting that while characters are officially becoming less sexualized, fan art of them is as degenerate as ever. it may be that rather than being completely opposed to sexualized characters, the japs want ones that are presented as "good girls" in the source material, but whore themselves out to old men in fan works. I think there may be a link to this behavior with idolshit fans. they are known for being obsessed with the idea that their favorite idol is pure and uninterested in men, but then do shit like making them touch their cum at handshake events. many currently popular jap games are idolshit themed so it is likely that such behavior is being imported. now the other aspect of this that I find interesting is that this trend does not seem to be replicated in other asian countries. korea and china have always been seen as simple copy cats of japan, but in this case they seem to have diverged. games like nikke, brown dust 2, and azure lane are full of hypersexualized designs even beyond what used to be expected from japan. characters from these games look like strippers and even have piercings and tattoos. even in terms of personalities characters explicitly want sex and try to jump the player character. perhaps this is also the influence of american culture. it's also interesting that blue archive, which is developed in korea but targeted at japan, is far more conservative than other korean games. what do you think about this phenomenon? do you miss obscene anime titties? do you think it is a passing fad and they will return? will you switch to gook and chink games if they deliver when japs won't?

Anonymous 04/26/2025 (Sat) 00:09:16 Id: dfe719 No. 1260506

>>1259972 flat is a relative term

Anonymous 04/27/2025 (Sun) 21:55:55 Id: bb8829 No. 1275035

>>1259156 just her cock

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 03:58:52 Id: 587c43 No. 1277073

>>1256210 He's talking about games in general. I don't know why are you so focused on using idol projects which are a completely different genre and offer a different kind of fanservice as the out for these companies following clear disincentives put out by banks and private equity firms. I feel like you're being dishonest. The market for lewd stuff clearly existed before and things like did well enough. Some of it was successful enough abroad too, then it gets censored or stop being made because of changed guidelines. Increased censorship and even big Japanese publishers like Capcom and Sega saying that they now self-censor internally before localization "for the global audience". >idolshit is all about image, and part of that image is restricted sexuality. this has nothing to do with the censorship being imposed on other segments of jap culture. I think you're being dishonest and incredibly stupid at the same time. You keep repeating yourself with this cope and keep patting yourself on your back because you managed to rationalize something an outside force is forcing to happen as "natural market factors". There's an invisible hand and it isn't the market, buddy.

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 10:34:29 Id: d96c53 No. 1278703

>>1246845 The point is that companies that pander to schizoids on Twitter lose on potential revenue rather than the certain sales. Silent Hill selling a lot is nothing new, but it permanently alienated a lof of the actual fans that would have bought future entries. I think something similar happened with the Crash Bandicoot remakes, everyone bought the trilogy because of nostalgia (aside from being a good deal), but come Crash 4 and the oldschool fans who got disappointed by the direction of the series just ignored it and trendy people and normalfags couldn't care less if it wasn't something they could easily clear.

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 10:43:37 Id: 3246fb No. 1278738

>>1246578 I hate how most arguments are either you have to like ugly women that look like men in wigs or half naked women with tits and asses bigger than their head. No inbetween. Why can't we just have good looking women that are not designed to appeal to either trannies or gooners, but just normal people that don't want to look at freaks of nature?

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 15:56:37 Id: 71ed0d No. 1280167

I remember when Illusion was an obscure Japanese company. Their greed is their downfall. To live happy, live hidden.

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 15:57:54 Id: 714670 No. 1280172

>>1280167 It's the fate of all publicly traded companies. To crash and burn for the sake of capital.

Anonymous 04/28/2025 (Mon) 16:05:59 Id: febaf6 No. 1280200

Sadly, Japan has become mostly irrelevant in the vidya sphere over the years. If it weren't for Nintendo, they would be. The pozzing of the ganes industry has been a tragic disaster

Anonymous 04/29/2025 (Tue) 05:13:39 Id: 2abd43 No. 1284233

>>1277073 I bring up idolshit because it seems like almost all of the popular made in japan gachashits that aren't some short lived anime/game tie in are idolshit or idolshit adjacent these days. I'm not talking about games crapcom is making for the global market, I'm specifically talking about games made for the domestic audience with little or no concern for international sales.

Anonymous 04/29/2025 (Tue) 05:29:36 Id: 8be64f No. 1284287

>>1259519 Seeing this images makes me really disheartened, because Nu GoW has completely abandoned any amount of sexuality the older ones had which wasn't just "oh MC is fucking more sluts" the various oracles and other women actually looked hot. Feels like every Sony IP abandoned all the babes that complimented the meat of the main game.

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 08:53:30 Id: dc2435 No. 1295613

>>1278738 People are addicted to extremes and flip-flopping between whatever ideas are contrarian to the norm. People got tired of sexualized trophy wives, so they flipped towards realistic-style women that embody both masculine and feminine traits (though unfortunately a lot of the times they just make them dudes with boobs) and generally have all the warts and issues real people tend to have (often times glorified or glazed over as to not invite criticism over them), and people made rallying behind that their entire personality and casus belli. Now that that's considered the norm, you have people wanting outright porn models with massive jiggling tits and ass that constantly perform sexual innuendoes and exist solely to please the player instead of existing as their own character, and people made supporting THAT their entire personality and goal in life. People seemingly don't want the nuance and balance of just "making characters that can be visually appealing yet also interesting and developed" because there's still the fantastical "wish fulfilment" element that the realism camp dislikes and the idea that the character needs to have dozens upon dozens of oddities and quirks for the sake of it instead of using them tactfully for character development and world building and whatnot, and the sexual gratification camp believes that such characters are "safe horny" or whatever buzzword of the week they've adopted because they may not appeal entirely to conventional sex appeal standards and because the characters are written to have their own relationships and goals instead of being harembait for the player that exist solely to get into lewd situations and make suggestive poses towards. Personally I just want nice looking characters that're also interesting and well written with some form of artistic/narrative intent, but apparently that's just fence sitting if the way those two groups act is anything to go by.

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 10:23:36 Id: 457107 No. 1295825

>>1253209 >Reminder that our parents, the people who were at Woodstock, founded the free love movement, and who's greatest childhood memories was listening to Hendrix while smoking weed and having free sex, are the same ones who have turned into puritans who are now trying to restrict Japanese games and ban fictional Bikinis because they "hurt women". Oh, nothing’s changed. They have “free love” now than ever before, and it is far more “free” than ever before, unless you’re a straight white men of course. But this isn’t contradictory to the free love moment, on the contrary it is the natural continuation of it. It was always about promoting faggotry, whoremongering, and ultimately help establish cultural marxism. Straight men at the time just happened to take advantage of it, but it was by no means for them. Divorce rates increases as amount of sexual partners spouses have had increased, and Jewish media started churning out no end of books, tv shows, movies, And now we’re in the situation where a healthy relationship is all but impossible due to the absolute state of modern women. So there’s no hypocrisy here, and certainly no Puritanism when leftist demand all female characters be ugly gorillas in hijabs while slicking to bara porn. The sexual revolution is doing exactly what it was intended to; give feminists, gay faggots, niggers, and trannies unbridled license to engage in as much cockmongling excess as possible at the expense of white men. But you don’t want to admit

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 21:55:29 Id: 00e6b4 No. 1298754

The current state of western media puritanism has amazed me that somehow ideological puritanism has beaten out a desire for money, it's baffling. I can hardly think of any other industry where this is the case. Every single AAA company over the past ~10 years has been trying their hardest to commit suicide in appealing to a demographic that doesn't exist (while simultaneously sabotaging cultures that don't capitulate through platform gatekeeping) I would understand if this were a bad cyberpunk setting where money is flowing in from shadow organizations but...that really doesn't seem to be the case given that many studios are laying people off with stock prices and sales plummeting. Hopefully the 2030s will improve things somewhat, or at the very least that these old dinosaurs will die and get replaced.

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 22:23:24 Id: a0a134 No. 1298917

>>1277073 >There's an invisible hand and it isn't the market, buddy. nta but I don't see a functional difference between the invisible hand and the market. They're basically two sides of the same apparatus now. It's increasingly hard to disentangle what is and isn't organic. >>1295613 This position is too reasonable to be monetizable to the corpos, shills, ecelebs and useful idiots who profit from keeping the pendulum swinging as hard as possible. >>1295825 picrel

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 23:03:55 Id: dd589d No. 1299162

>>1298917 <All those who censors sexy characters are puritan >Not really. Feminists believe women should be allowed to dress like sluts and engage in rampant whore-mongering free of criticism, and in-fact believe women should be free from all accountability in general. They only censor artwork depicting sexualised female characters because they appeal to men while actively encouraging gay porn. Your logic for calling them puritans is an Incredibly superficial oversimplification. <y-You’re incapable of understanding nuance! Ironic.

Anonymous 05/01/2025 (Thu) 23:29:09 Id: 9c75fe No. 1299297

>>1298754 >somehow ideological puritanism has beaten out a desire for money Are you completely unaware of the fact that these companies are getting paid by investment companies and even the actual government to sanitize these products? They don't need to sell

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 00:17:55 Id: 00e6b4 No. 1299513

>>1299297 No, you're right. My take was naive as I've generally avoided all /v/ and twitter culture wars for the past decade but the evident thing that would make sense is that it's 10-30 executives at the top getting payouts and the actual workers getting fired/turned into a revolving door outsourced sweatshop, the layoffs don't matter to anyone actually in charge, or profitability for that matter. The whole entertainment industry has stopped being about making money and instead is for a few executives or leaders in each company to sell out and use their product or platform as a cheap propaganda tool to pump and dump like a crypto scam. Kill me, back to ignoring AAA outside of checking in every 5 years or so. I just stopped paying attention or buying most mainstream games around ~2013 or so and hoped things would improve but they never did and I'm still playing (mostly) pre 2016 AAA games or indie titles for the foreseeable future. Corporate sterile domination of all platforms and all media has killed my interest and I should just focus on real life, anyway, that's enough doomering, to be positive there's clearly a massive market opening for any AA and indie developers that want to fill this void, it's never been better if you can code and draw.

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 00:48:35 Id: 9f50ee No. 1299634

>>1299580 >>1299585 >>1299602 kill yourself.

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 00:50:54 Id: 23ef45 No. 1299646

>>1299634 Don't respond to Will Martin aka Willy aka Niggerpill.

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 00:51:14 Id: a0a134 No. 1299649

>>1299585 It's okay blackpill-kun. When AI simulations are perfected, compute privileges have replaced money, and subscription platforms are the only way to access the resources needed to run them, nobody will even remember feminism, or the woke, or much of anything else really. Video games as you know them will likely become like board games, and they'll be excellent because the only people making and supporting them will be the most hardcore adherents. There might even be an after school club.

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 01:18:10 Id: 5f2dea No. 1299783

>>1246578 >gacha games are safe? Many voices in Japan already stated they should stop having political correctness in game and anime, and they should first make games for them. On the other hand they also have laws baked in giving the government to censor any games/anime which pretty much works like a Damocles sword. But as long as they start doing their own thing, they can deal with any local roadblocks their government give them since there's less international noise and they can focus on the local stuff.

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 01:40:04 Id: 00e6b4 No. 1299915

>>1299589 >How Time to go find out, I'm not sure either. Personally I think we're just in the first dark age of the internet and of electronic media. The sane people are hidden away in private discord group equivalents that you have to hunt and find to avoid the mobs/bots, anywhere public is on sanitized platforms that don't allow you to be honest; or are overrun with bots. It's not about being free to publish a game with anime tiddies, it's about the very concept of free expression that is dying online, strangled in ideological madness. And I think gen Z, and especially gen A will eventually become tired of it but for now we're in this awful transitionary period of corporate control where the levers are Twitter, Reddit, Discord and bot controlled 4chan. A new paradigm will eventually happen but if not, at least we can all take solace in remembering the golden age haha... for now I'll just shitpost with the other oldfags on new years while drunk. But it is frustrating. Culture as a whole seems to have not moved on from ~2014, and we can type on small scattered boards like this one but the outside world is still going to be as reddit TOS/twitter addicted and dominated as ever whereas before it was boomers being addicted to fox news, you wouldn't ever interact with them. Now you do. They are in your hobbies, your corporate boards, and on your imageboards. It's genuinely up to gen Z/A now to get irritated and change culture. ...anyway, whining won't change much. I could write a book on how frustrated I am from growing up on the internet and seeing the modern state of things. I'm sure (you) could too. Let's hope for a better future. The only alternative is to get power yourself and try to make it happen

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 03:01:50 Id: 7b527a No. 1300273

>>1299661 even one of the main goyim which was sega is abandoning the west and just making yakuza wacky again the fuck are you on about nigger

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 03:09:49 Id: 7b527a No. 1300315

>>1299648 >>1299915

Anonymous 05/02/2025 (Fri) 03:37:03 Id: 7b527a No. 1300438

>>1246578 >Light-bulb moment. >Go to 4jeet to see what news is prompting another wave of antijapan propaganda spam. >Another PS5 price increase. Sounds about right.

Anonymous 05/25/2025 (Sun) 00:00:42 Id: 7ad65b No. 1398684

>>1258865 Steam in particular is a mess and its a complete roulette if you get approved or not depending on which reviewer gets assigned to your project. Evenicle 1 has a loli character and it got approved just fine, you even had one of the trap games having a shota character and it got approved. Honestly, steam alternatives need to band together otherwise roasties like Mary will decide what you can and can't buy.

Anonymous 05/25/2025 (Sun) 23:53:36 Id: 86eae2 No. 1402113

>>1246778 >Blah blah blah safer designs appeal to a wider market and make more money, simple as that Anime is infinitely more popular than modern western animation

Anonymous 08/22/2025 (Fri) 10:15:56 Id: 0f185d No. 1682124

>>1252330 >>1252330 >unity and unreal 5 slop >optimistic No thanks. Real devs devoted to their passion and ideas will write their own engines. Unity and UE5 (and whatever else pre-baked engines there might be that I'm not aware of) is a guaranteed money grab game build on/around current game trends and thus an automatic big no-no from me. Also an immediate [NIGGERLISTED] stamp on that bad boi.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 02:34:16 Id: 6f8bc7 No. 1718758

>>1248023 >Most women don't like fanservice in the same way that men do Play an MMORPG. Or watch a bitch play the Sims. This is a total bullshit piece of propaganda pushed by fags and fag hags. Men want to see hot women, women want to see hot women they can project themselves onto being taken and/or abused by not necessarily hot men, or even monsters and animals. Change the cover of any fanservicy game to include even just an innuendo of violent or forceful sexual conduct, and you got Twilight or 50 shades.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 03:11:23 Id: 9c75fe No. 1718846

>>1718758 Women like what men like because they have little to no agency and plenty just do it for the attention. The only people who push for the feminization of everything either do it out of a misguided attempt to achieve a bigger market share or to create jobs for their faggot friends.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 05:00:30 Id: c3fa02 No. 1719024

>>1718846 And out of spite. You forgot spite.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 05:14:24 Id: 20d1d2 No. 1719050

>>1719024 Well, they should get some more sprite if they're out of it!

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 05:53:03 Id: 6f8bc7 No. 1719101

>>1718846 Nah, I'm saying men and women's tastes as to which kind of women they like in their media are the same but for different reasons The real reason women never played Vidya as much as boys is because vidya is a new form of media and it has become socially acceptable only relatively recently The perception that it's "for girls" is really all that matters, the proof is every best seller of the last 50 years. It's literally porn and the women in it are hot. The movies they like are porn. The tv series they like are porn. Women like to see hot women and pretend to be them.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 07:16:15 Id: 227610 No. 1719190

I don't mind big titties in my video games or anime or other media, but actually make a good product in the process. Big tiddies aren't gonna magically make a POS gacha skinner box into a good game. Neither is it gonna redeem a boring 400 hour JRPG that's mostly just hallways and grinding. If you make a steak out of cheap cuts of meat, taped together with meat glue and other fillers, then don't expect anime tiddy A1 sauce to make it taste good.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 10:37:57 Id: 9a369c No. 1719530

>>1246578 I think the difference between borderline hentai gacha games and triple A studios is that the former actually make money from the users (and they know their target audience very well), while the latter are like newspaper and other legacy media that's struggling to stay afloat despite all the insane milking techniques, so they rely on investment firms keeping them afloat as a repurposed propaganda tool.

Anonymous 09/03/2025 (Wed) 14:07:27 Id: d8e3bc No. 1719971

>>1246878 >wedding dress outfits for loli characters what honse's loli?

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