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The Alters Anonymous 06/19/2025 (Thu) 14:58:27 Id: 66bc34 No. 1482060
From the devs behind This War of Mine (that was over a decade ago), this is a unique sci-fi adventure where you play as one guy managing his varied clones to survive. There's some similarities from TWoM, except it's not as depressing and it almost looks like a AAA game. It's already out on Steam and GOG, with a Playable Steam Deck rating (that may eventually become Verified).
>>1515448 >>1515460 No wonder the yo-ho-ho version was so bloated. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that whoever recorded the videos didn't know the resolution they'd be played at in the game world, so just sent a bunch of uncompressed footage and expected someone lower the developer totem pole to deal with it, which never happened. If you read what they had to say about AI shit, they were rushing to get the game out. Still it's completely inexcusable. Someone should replace the videos with hardcore hentai and upload the pirated version online to troll players. >>1517968 >The game has a shocking amount of typos, I don't usually notice those and I still caught a few casually. It's not just typos, there's also a bunch of lines that do not match subs. Also for some reason if you clone the Refiner after Molly dies he still talks as if he was there when it happened.
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>>1521930 Which begs the question, if Jan(s) were so preoccupied that the corporation could see that there was more than one person left on the mission, couldn't they just use the implant on Tabula Rasa, get the results for the treatment from Jan's ex-wife and then use that to cure the rest of 'em? Jan Redditor could easily replicate anything they sent him, since he pretty much does all the thinking.
>>1525677 >My assumption is that they're going to add a ton of divergent timelines and some sort of challenge runs with a harsher world and a randomized set of Alters An idea I had was another expedition, but one where the crew actually survives. A more traditional base builder resource management type of deal, I enjoy the mechanics of The Alters and would like if an expansion focused on those. The base game is really easy. Although I do wonder how many expansions the game will get, it doesn't appear to be selling all that well. An estimate I found was 350k on PC, and modern gaming tends to be a 6:4 split on PC/console so that's probably only 560k copies total. Maybe it'll have long legs, 11 Bit's games often do. I think This War of Mine only sold 600k in its first year but went on to sell almost 10 million.
>>1525999 Nice trips, I guess you could consider the base game as sort of the Story Mode experience, and it will be ironed out in future installments. They definitely seem to have big things planned though since the base game can run all the Alters available at launch at the same time (look up the All-ters mod on Nexcucks mod).
>>1482451 guaranteed that's how it goes for all his clones >>1524424 A cat is fine too
>>1529774 After a big party, one of the Alters mentions waking up drunk in another Alter's bed. Yes there is fan fiction written about this
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Interestingly, 11 bit managed to get a bundle deal with Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. It's not a particularly GOOD bundle, and it has a UI bug claiming the discount is reduced, but it's neat two potential GOTY candidates are sold together. It'd be more attractive if it was $20 off instead of $8.
>>1534610 I don't think it's enough to financially save the game, it completely bombed and sales flatlined over a week ago. This is doing worse than Frostpunk 2 and they had to undergo layoffs after that. It's a fucking shame, this is one of my favorite games of the decade so far.
>>1534700 I wonder if the game would've done better if Mickey 17 hadn't been such a shit movie
If anybody yarr-harr'd the game, you probably have v1.0.1.46. This one has a really nasty save bug* that can occur in Act 2 which makes the game unplayable, there's also a potential softlock in one of the Alter conversations. It was fixed, but you need to patch it. https://files.catbox.moe/est432.rar You need to install the patches in sequence. Make sure you direct it to your install folder. Each one will take about 15 to 50 minutes, it'll look stuck but as long as task manager shows disk activity it's still working. These will patch it up to v1.0.2.8, the current one as of posting. *Not actually a save bug, but it did affect saves. It played like a memory leak, though 11 bit said it was an "infinite narrative loop", systems would calculate forever slowly bloating the game until it slowed to a crawl. Days would take 20-60 seconds to start, it would stutter like crazy, freeze any time a speedup happened, skip saves, make saves go from a few kilobytes to dozens of megabytes, it was awful. If you got the bug, there's nothing to do but go back before Act 2 starts and install the patch(es). On a side note, it's amusing how every Let's Player and Vtuber who touches this game does the same thing of editing the Jans to be different versions of themself, pic related.
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The Alters experience
>>1538305 What if The Alters was a dollhouse of female clones? Would that have been more appealing? Hmm.
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>>1545602 That could have a potentially higher amount of sales, but then that would require having a talented voice actress doing several different voices from a single character (that's also well modeled). There aren't much of those even outside of America.
>>1546796 When Tech wakes up and speaks I remember thinking "Huh, they hired different actors for the other clones". Soi when the credits roll by and revealed every Alter was voiced by the same person, I wasn't sure if it was a intentional joke until it didn't show their "real" VAs. It's one thing to be able to voice a thousand different cartoon characters like Tom Kenny, but the Alters all sound like normal people. And he's not even American, these are also accent rolls for him >>1525999 They revealed the sales on Steam today and they're even lower, 280k. 11 bit is based in Poland, I hope dev costs were low enough for them to make an easy profit.
PROTIP The damaged chips are critical for getting through the game without much trouble since they're the only way to upgrade the quantum computer for more Alters. They are easy to miss, so here's all of the locations on the map. Get about three or four batteries for getting through the anomalies in Act 2. There are no chips in Act 3.
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Some people were wondering what an expansion could be like. MAJOR spoiler. At the very end of the game, if you chose the right options, you can get a quest called The Meaning of Life. The scientist feels there's more to the planet the crew hasn't discovered. You can let him follow this feeling and he sets out on an expedition, coming back with the discovery the planet actually has life, an entire ecosystem with water and microbes, safe from radiation. If you let him, he'll stay on the planet instead of coming back to Earth, hiding in the shelter the rebels built. This is obvious potential jumping off point for a future expansion. Judging by the fact I haven't heard anybody talk about this, I'm guessing this quest wasn't encountered very often or people didn't chose to follow it.
The songs that play in the social room, which confusingly aren't on the game's soundtrack. Every Day Carry has to be the most memorable song in the game besides What If, the song they sing at the end of Act 1.
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These songs were surprisingly difficult to find, they're all extremely obscure by tiny, unknown acts. I had to look at the production credits to find them. The only other games I can think of that licensed multiple obscure songs are Hotline Miami and LittleBigPlanet. This next set isn't as good, the three in the previous post are my favourites.
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That's all of the social room songs. There are still a few I can't from around the base, like the gym music or the music in the contemplation room, even with production credits I'm unable to source them. They're probably from some stock music package.
>>1556317 >>1556323 >>1556365 Here's the licensed song that plays later in the game. It's in Act 3, where Jan walks out to turn on the beacon before he and his Alters leave the planet Since they're licensed music, there's some inevitable copyright trouble, so they're not all easily available to listen. There's seems to be an official Spotify playlist (it has the 11 bit studios name on it, along with other OSTs for their games) that has all of the songs used: open(dot)spotify(dot)com/playlist/6CRWH8OtHLQ2bRp6FapSuo The zen music used in one of the rooms (is it from the Contemplation Room?) is difficult to find (at least for me), but I found a link from the production music company from Taiwan and a link to Universal Production Music's listing.
>>1534762 It's the the promotional material giving it a very "reddit" vibe that made me not interested in the game. More than anything else. I don't really see anyone talk about that movie anymore, seemed to have next to no cultural impact positive or negative, so I don't think it was a factor.
>>1556642 >the promotional material giving it a very "reddit" vibe Seriously, the sitcom-esque cover betrays how earnest the game is. The other cover you see here >>1534610 is better, but doesn't get anything about the game across. So much promo art is of the Alters goofing off and being silly, when most of them are complete hardasses with severe trauma.
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>>1556658 >>1534610 A better box art design that I saw is from a limited "Signature Edition" release, although it might seem too boring for a sci-fi game cover (unless it has one of those "animated" lenticular print covers that I rarely see in some books and DVDs).
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>>1556658 That promo has a lot of little easter eggs. Beside the botanist is a poster for South of the Circle, a game 11 bit published. The photos on the fridge are characters from This War of Mine, 11b's first hit. In order, the characters are Pavle, Bruno, and Katia. The poster beside the refiner is practically invisible with how dark and obscured it is, I didn't even notice it until I messed with the light levels to better see details, but I managed to work out it's for Anomaly 2, one of 11b's first games. There's a box for the This War of Mine board game on top of a book with the title obscured, might be "Be Your Best Self" There's a book on the upper shelf that's barely legible, but I believe it's titled "Terraforming Titan". This possibly hints at where the game was originally meant to take place, more on that in a second. (cont.)
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There's a poster I don't recognize, it might be for Frostpunk. They're playing a board game, it could be the This War of Mine TTG but I'm unfamiliar with it. There's some writing on a box I don't understand, I assume it's Chinese. But mainly, what's with some of the Alters? Who the hell are the top two in #4? The scientist also has a slightly different design, the same that can be seen in early game art. Their designs are all a little different, like the technician(?) wearing some kind of hospital gown. This leads me to believe this art is possibly quite old, made early in the game's development before character designs or possibly even the plot were settled. That makes me think the book on the shelf is not a random prop, but tied into an earlier draft of the plot. The unnamed planet might originally have been Saturn's moon Titan. The unnamed planet has an ocean of some unnamed iridescent liquid, similar to how Titan has massive lakes of methane. To add to this, one of the posters in the social room says "SATURN ID / VI" What's Titan's official designation? Saturn VI.
>>1558112 I don't like any of the covers, but I struggle to think of a good one myself. How do you market a game like this? One thought I had was a dollhouse view of the CEBA base with all the different Alters doing things, similar to the building view. >>1558699 >>1558717 Very impressive autism, thank you.
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Prepare for the gayest posts in the thread
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>>1605518 >>1605519 >>1605520 >gayest posts in the thread >not even pornographic
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>>1589284 >go fuck yourself: the game
>>1605955 I'm sure there is any, but if you want literally gay..
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>>1605518 >>1605519 >>1605520 Are those supposed to be sheep? They look terrible.
>>1607456 I thought they were supposed to be rats at first, actually. Like lab rats, I guess? But sheep make way more sense (because of clones) and you're right, I can't even tell what they are at a second glance.


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