>>1963827 Most mini pcs available are igpu only, to have something with a proper card youd need to build it yourself and even then the itx sff shit is more expensive than atx variants of the same hardware

>>1963818 Read a book nigger, holy shit.

>>1963025 >>1963598 I'm going to preorder it ASAP. Maybe even a limited edition color if possible. As for the size, you shouldn't worry since the controller seems to be about the same size as that Xbone Series controller, unless your big hands find that uncomfortable. Even then, there may likely be hardware mods and accessories aside from changing the shell color and buttons. I'm curious if there will be any third-party copycat controllers like those from Gamesir or 8BitDo. There's been plenty of similar Xbox-style gamepads and mods but with TMR, gyroscopes, and extra buttons.

>>1963025 I feel like those pads are going to worn out with the friction with the thumb base, especially the left.

>>1963025 >Am I the only one who wants this fucking thing? No, but out of the 3 new hardwares, the controller places last, even behind the VR headset. I'm glad to see that VR isn't dead.

>>1963852 >Most mini pcs available are igpu only There have been pre-built SFF PC's with GPU's in them for at least the better part of a decade.

>>1963827 >The only reason why this pc is receiving any attention at all is because valve is making it And there being an easy alternative to Microshit while having someone else handling all the bullshit that keeps people away from Linux. >>1964126 >I'm glad to see that VR isn't dead What makes you think it isn't? Hardware is just hardware.

>>1964126 I just hope the price isn't insane.

>>1963085 Is this the evolution of that trio of dancing robots? The smugness seems familiar.

>>1963827 generally agree, and I also think that controller can't be comfortable and still cannot see the point of the trackpads, however, you're missing the point Windows fucking sucks and has become increasingly unusable iOS can't do gaming so there's a considerable demand for Linux support right now it's like when WoW pissed off all of its players for the 900th time and they decided en masse to move over to FFXIV for 3 months, it wasn't necessarily because FFXIV is a good MMORPG (it really isn't an MMORPG at all lol) it's just that WoW had become unbearable. The deck is just fucking retarded boomer gadget-chasing bugman bait, it's the worst possible form factor between a desktop and a handheld and inferior to a laptop in every way. Still deserves support just for pushing gaming on Linux, just because the alternative right now is Windows 11, and nobody wants Windows 11. This one, I might have considered buying if there was an option with stronger hardware and more focus on productivity as well. I don't need it to be fist-sized, I need it to work well.

>>1968754 >I also think that controller can't be comfortable You have tiny baby hands that's why

>>1968937 it's smaller than an xbox controller lol it just has a bunch of retarded extra buttons covering every inch of it, what the fuck am I ever gonna do with 4 extra triggers where my ring and pinky are wrapping around?

>>1963939 The 360 chat pad was a game changer. I used it all the time to text with friends. using the touch pads on the steam controller to type is going to be a big deal for me!

I played games with extensive keyboard input such as System Shock Enhanced Edition and Thief The Dark Project and they played brilliantly with the Steam Deck's touchpads and back buttons. The community layout feature is genuinely a game changer. The anon either never tried playing on a Deck and/or is retarded.

>>1968952 >Why do you need 2 analogs? >Why do you need triggers? >Why do you need paddles? >Why do you need 4 face buttons? >Why do you need analog buttons? >Why do you need gyro? Because you're a nigger

>>1969132 >The 360 chat pad was a game changer. I'll one up you. NGC didn't even have voice chat, so everyone was stuck using the OSK unless you imported one of these big fuckers so that you could just lay into motherfuckers like a drill sergeant and all they could do is is weakly reply with "fuk u" repeatedly. I can't find an image of it, but the Xbox 360 had a chat adapter from Sega specifically for Phantasy Star Universe which used the goddamned analog sticks to select letters. There was an indicator sticker ring you had to place on the controller with all 26 goddamned letters around the right analog stick - as well as common punctuation. There was some button combination you had to press, and then flick the stick VERY CAREFULLY to the letters you wanted to "type" out. Never used one myself, though. I guess retards never realized that you could just plug a USB Keyboard into the 360. I played it at a desk with my PC monitor, but you could easily get a USB extension cable for living room play.

>>1969317 That sounds atrocious.

>>1969532 Not sure why you say this when a steam deck is about the same size as that

>>1969554 If you move your mouse over the big black box up above, you'll find that there's more text hidden underneath.

>>1969132 Trackpad typing on the Deck is even better, imo. You become pretty fast with it once you get used to it.

>>1969317 This thing? I didn't have USB keyboards until the early tens and I was done with consoles by then

>>1969267 >>Why do you need 2 analogs? to move both camera and character in a comfortable way >>Why do you need triggers? Index and middle fingers >>Why do you need paddles? I don't >>Why do you need 4 face buttons? for 4+ different actions, to hit with my thumb or index >>Why do you need analog buttons? my thumb is already on the stick so why not, usually camera control or lock on >>Why do you need gyro? small aim adjustments in FPS, to use combined with analog, but people aren't ready for that + MKB is just better so nobody bothers other than people who play Splatoon one massive problem with gyro adoption is that it robs you of being able to hodl your controller in a relaxed manner, you have to tense up or your aim goes to shit. Very niche, honestly wouldn't say I need it. my turn: why do you need 4 more triggers at the back of the controller where your ring and pinky rest? Name a use case and don't say FFXIV cause I don't believe you

>>1970082 No... If I remember right it was an inline unit that sat between the controller cord and the USB breakaway. It wasn't part of the controller itself - you just had a sticker ring you had to apply to the thumb stick to indicate what letters you were selecting. I'll try to find a picture when I sober up.

I'm not jewish so if it's 200 bucks overpriced I don't care, also I am jewish so I make enough money to not care about 200 bucks.

I could have sworn I had a picture of it saved. I know it was on PSOworld, but it looks like a lot of their archived images have been purged and CoPilot and Gemini are both shitting their pants trying to find it elsewise.

>>1970292 Pay piggy

>>1963827 The question then is will they sell upgrades that can be swapped out in the future, or will they sell entire units with better specs as sequels?

>>1973295 I assume the latter, but itll take a long time for a successor to come out

>>1968952 Wait until you see whatever abomination Mad Catz comes out for it will look like

>>1963827 For linux users it's an exciting premise of maybe gaining much better general support from developers getting strong-armed into finally leaving pajeetOS. For the average user it's a nice easy way to escape the constant enshitification without having to learn a whole lot. and provides a small tv top setup with a low profile that can be used in entertainment centers without taking up the space a traditional desktop would. For enthusiasts it represents a baseline for developers to easily optimizes for, which can have a knock on effect in making more powerful setups run better. But yes, for fanboys it's just cause it has valve's name stuck to it. >>1973295 Chances are their going to just let other companies make future prebuilds with steamOS branding similar to handheld PCs. More inline with how the original steammachine's were invisioned, it's just this time they actually got games.

>>1963025 I already own the first one. The 2nd one looks cool but for how i've gotten used to the first i'm personally not that excited for dual joysticks since i already adapted heavily to using gyro and the touchpads. I'm not happy to see they replaced to clicky flippers with the back buttons of the deck. Thats been the one thing i disliked the most about the steamdeck being that the buttons are far to harsh to push and in an akward position where you don't have nearly as much leverage. I think i'd have perfered they release the steamframe controllers as a standalone thing.

>>1973370 >I think i'd have perfered they release the steamframe controllers as a standalone thing What makes you think they won't?

>>1973477 The fact it uses camera IR like other mix reality headset like the oculus. That kind of points to it being a strictly a bundled thing. Plus neither the knuckles or vive wands work indipendently of the headset and need steamVR running. I'd be amazed if they could work standalone, but i doubt it.

>>1973548 Damn, VR is far more of a dead end than I knew. You'd think they'd be pushing for replacement controller sales or just controllers for people who found they enjoy controlling with a two piece controller but I guess they really want that full unit sale for the people actually invested in it

>>1970082 I still have my 360 controller keyboard. I also still have my controller keyboard for the PS3.

>>1973295 They, as in Steam, will almost certainly not sell upgrade kits - but there's nothing preventing a third party from selling them. Problem is that 90% of the cost of the unit is soldered directly to the main board, so it doesn't really make any sense to sell an upgrade over a whole new unit. Same reason that HP or ASUS doesn't sell "laptop" upgrades despite having a built-in monitor that could save users some cash by not having to buy again. The savings to the customer are marginal compared to the costs of engineering, producing, and warehousing a bunch of upgrade kits.