>>2070737 i think im into ryona and i don't like it...

>>2071184 you might just hate a specific character and want her ass beat, and that's fine.

>>2070880 >So the comics have been retconned out of the lore rendering them pointless? The Chozo were brought back for Metroid dread. Other M, despite pretending to be a direct sequel to super Metroid, just has a lot of plotholes and conflicts with the entire series.

The various Atlus remake girls like Alex from Strange Journey Redux and Nemesia from Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology. Both characters pretty much make their respective remakes much more worse than the originals. >>2069685 ORAS is fucking shit dude and Zinnia is part of the reason why. Funnily enough she could be considered as the Atlus Remake Girl of the Pokemon remake.

>>2072269 Never played Radiant Historia but i remember a lengthy screencap explaining everything wrong with Nemesia. You have that?

>>2068413 A common feature of the worst characters is that the writer loves them, but the writer is retarded and unlikable themselves.

>>2068413 Revolver Ocelot in all the metal gear games, literally why the fuck is he there I just want to see big boss, especially when you fight him as an old man pretending to be snake

>>2072269 >ORAS is fucking shit dude and Zinnia is part of the reason why. Funnily enough she could be considered as the Atlus Remake Girl of the Pokemon remake. BUT MUH WAIFU!!!!!!! MUH DIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some """people""" need to have their cocks cut off I swear to fucking shit fuck fuck shit nigger fuck

>>2073632 I've never been so convinced someone is a tranny from a single post before in my life

>>2072269 I liked Alex a little better than the rest of Atlus Remake games, even if there's a mandatory scene with her beating your ass in Sector B and her crashing at the end even if you decide to ignore Redux content Now this girl was something else. She keeps appearing in the main game (and usually stealing afternoon time you could use to advance SLs/Skills) only for her to actually join in the very last dungeon with a quite subpar skillset.

Pretty much every single Atlus re-release girl. Your Maries, Sumires, Nemesias, Alexes, Ariannas, Frederica, Yokos etc. I don't give a fuck about them. No one gives a fuck about them. But we are stuck with them as they destroy every single previously established canon. At least with SMT5V they surprisingly did something decent and separated Yoko to a completely different route.

>>2073993 >At least with SMT5V they surprisingly did something decent and separated Yoko to a completely different route. Yoko was literally cut content from the vanilla release. She was in the game files with the name "chaos heroine."

>>2072675 God, it's like everything wrong with gaming in one concentrated image. You can just feel the utter contempt the writers have for everything good and right.

>>2072675 >sylvanas Dear god I forgot how much they sucked her off. The entire Night elf race was humiliated just to make Sylvanas look cooler. Twice. They killed off Vol'jin just to make this horrid bitch warchief and then fucked 20 years of warcraft lore. It took a lot but the new blizz writers are actually worse than metzen and his orc worship.

>>2077861 Don't forget Nathanos becoming one of the writer's self-inserts who's really cool and Sylvanas's boyfriend and looks super handsome even though he's fucking undead.

>>2073993 I don't remember Etrian Odyssey Untold fucking with or retconning the existing EO lore, just expanding on it and having a "what if" story with a fixed party. The only thing that comes close is the gungnir missiles, and having nukes on standby in case the Yggdrasil went crazy isn't too much of a stretch. Anything else introduced is just adding more background fluff that doesn't interact with anything else. Hell they already had gun blueprints according to what Shilleka said and the tech had been spreading. All Frederica's guns would do is speed that up a bit.

>>2077861 >Nathanos

>>2077861 Blizzard can only write one female character and she's insufferable.

>>2077861 >the new blizz writers are actually worse than metzen and his orc worship The green fantasy black people are infinitely cooler than girlboss mary sue. They even had her destroy Arthas's soul you know. It's absolutely obscene how much damage they did to the setting just to promote this horrible character. Orcs are probably one of the cooler parts of the setting and Metzen is a cool guy in general. I don't mind them at all. The brown orcs (maghar?) were a bit stupid but it wasn't too bad.

>game series >put a new character in the game that's somehow stronger than MC >if you want to learn more about this character read the comics/side stories/collabs/whatever the else fuck How about no, put them in the previous games or don't do this fucking crap at all

>>2077861 >>2078696 >orc worship The subversion process: 1. Orcs are fictional characters who are pure evil to justify the mass murder of them in a war game. 2. Let's add an intelligent, peaceful orc to the story. It is new and different, and closer to the complexities of real life. 3. Let's have the human heroes team up with the peaceful orcs against both the evil orcs and other humans who misunderstand them. 4. The orcs had legitimate reasons for invading the human realm and murdering every man, woman, and child they encountered. It is not their fault! 5. The orcs are the good guys. The humans are the real monsters! > girlboss mary sue The subversion process: 1. Women are, on the average, physically weaker than men. 2. Let's have a competent woman on the combat squad who can keep up with the men. It is new and different. She is someone that girls in the audience can look up to and respect, and I want to marry my OC. 3. The woman character is popular and there is so much porn of her online. Let's give her a greater role in the story. Make her a leader, make her save the day when the men are in trouble. 4. The woman was written to be better than the men, so that is what she is in every story. And since everyone looks up to her, she also lectures the audience with the author's personal pet politics. (These characters often start on Step 4 without being subverted.) 5. The woman character is better than the men because she has a vagina. She got her superpowers because she has a vagina. And she is fat, lazy, and stupid just like the women who took over the writing team.

>>2079778 This usually happens in series where Teams/writers shift each entry and suits demand a new cool character to sell newest entry. Is pretty shit tho.

>>2078344 Meant to reply to >>2077937

>>2079778 Mega Man X does this in the very first game. God, I hate that faggot, Zero.

>>2078344 >It's like looking into a mirror FAT

>>2078696 orcs weren't what was wrong with metzen his problem was CORRUPTION~

>>2084839 You look at the Thrall's Wedding questline and tell that to me again with a straight face. His problem was both having a corruption fetish AND having to shoehorn Thrall into the spotlight whenever he could.

This faggot. There is no reason why he should ever have appeared outside of Lost World. >>2070073 >from Other M Wasn't Adam mentioned repeatedly in Fusion? Or am I remembering things wrong?

>>2085336 Adam was indeed constantly mentioned in Fusion, and becomes her ship's computer at the end, he's also in the Metroid manga.

>>2079882 Blizzard did the "Orcs are misunderstood" thing to remove them from pure evil status and added Undead as the new pure evil, only later to do "Undead are misunderstood" when they buddied them up with the Horde. It's old news but still so retarded. MMOs shouldn't exist.

>>2086448 Were orcs "pure evil"? I don't remember that in WC2 or 3. Maybe it was a thing in 1 but I could never stand that outdated jank. WoW is fan fiction don't cite anything from it

>>2086457 They were comically evil rape demons from hell who practiced necromancy in WC2, what are you talking about.

>>2085228 >Unlike most other wedding attendants (bar the dragons), Jaina does not /clap or /cheer when the orcs finish their vows. >Jaina will very rarely do a /cry emote. Thrall even cuckqueaned a woman that day. KEK >>2086448 >MMOs shouldn't exist. Would it have been better if the same story was told through stand alone RTS/RPG sequels to WC3? I get MMO writing is terrible largely due to the genre's live service nature and constant powercreep, but you'd still have Blizz's writing team at the end of the day.

>>2086530 >Would it have been better if the same story was told through stand alone RTS/RPG sequels to WC3? Without everything having to fit into 2 factions to make the game work and without major characters turning into raid bosses for random adventurers to kill, anything is better, yes.

>>2086448 Orcs stopped being pure evil way back in WC3 though. Turns out they were just corrupted by the big bad devils. The ones in WC3 orc campaign atleast, i don't remember much of WC2 and WC3 story.