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Games you know of where the devs seem to absolutely fucking love a character, but the players don't give a shit? Anonymous Id: c9a78d No. 2068413
I.e. gaming Poochies. This isn't the most common phenomenon but it's always interesting to me how and why it happens. >Kai Leng 2cool4u OC dork in Mass Effect 3 who feels exactly like "that guy" in a TTRPG campaign who always has to win >Sylux JJ Abrams mystery box character with zero personality and constant "that wasn't him, that was a decoy, you didn't win!" fake outs >Ava Local Idiot Ruins Everything, Everybody Claps
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>2cool4u OC dork >"that guy" in a TTRPG campaign who always has to win This guy to a fucking T. He only briefly shows up but boy does he make an impact, though it wasn't the devs loving him but the no self-awareness cringetard guest writer (who paid for this) loving him.
>>2068413 >poochie.jpg >Games you know of where the devs seem to absolutely fucking love a character, but the players don't give a shit? The term you're looking for is creator's pet. A general concept that encompasses all forms of mediums including video games.
Can anybody tell me why Yacht Club is gay for the least interesting backer OC of all time, he looks like the forgotten protag to a failed shonen manga
>>2068479 Considering how terrible most OCs are, that's pretty good for a random autist
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>>2068479 >>2068554 Reize isn't Yacht Club's fault. His actual creator is an autistic blackie from Deviantart who shoves him into every Kickstarter game who has a "add your OC to our game" tier (which is part of the reason you don't see that anymore, alongside other messy cases like Duncan from Colossal Kaiju Combat and So Sorry from Undertale). http://seizui.wikidot.com/reize-seatlan He has a long list of rules and shit about what you can and can't do with him he tries to enforce. Perhaps to spite him, his entire role in Specter of Torment (having a dad, being corrupted by the Enchantress, etc) goes entirely contrary to them and the ripoff Smash mode has Dark Reize playable first before vanilla Reize (and a better character at that). I think it gave him stockholm syndrome, considering it went to roaring applause and he blew his entire cameo in Indivisible (that failed attempt by the Skullgirls devs to branch out that got Alex Ahad fired) talking up Shovel Knight instead of himself.
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Only thing that comes to mind is Sakurai stuffing endless Fire Emblem characters into Smash.
>>2068580 It'd be less offensive if they had the decency to not give every last fucking one a counter Down-B (except, like, Robin).
>>2068580 That 100% counts. I distinctly remember asking "who the fuck is Byleth" out loud when watching that Direct.
>>2068413 It's incredible how bad Ava fucked up everything too. They could have shot her in the head and things would have improved. Doesn't help that she's a ugly little mongrel. Maya deserved better.
>>2068413 I kinda doubt the Prime 4 devs loved Sylux. His scans in Hunters paint him as having the potential to be at least a half decent Metroid villain, while Prime 4 wrote him like an obligation they didn't understand the appeal of. Though JJ Abrams is an apt description of Prime 4 as a whole.
>>2068580 But Sakurai didn't create Fire Emblem? Wouldn't Kirby be more his "creator's pet"?
>>2068580 Sakurai himself said he knows there are too many FE characters, and that he isn't the one who determains new characters. Left one is machine translated, the other is from a twitter post translating it ryokutya2089.com/archives/28351 It's obvious to tell that after aside from Marth who's the only FE character from a game that predates the console generation his appears in, every Fire Emblem character in smash exists just to promote the most recent FE games at that time.
Japan thinks this character is the funniest thing ever probably because the average age of japanese viewers is 10
>>2068586 Yeah, the counter specials need to be replaced.
>>2069450 >he doesn't want to emulate the Grand Paragon of Lechery in his old age already the biggest homo of the year
Pokémon's Zinnia, of the last decent Pokémon game (OR/AS). I have no pictures of that gigantic Mary Sue. Aside from the Fairy-type thoroughly fagging up the whole series from Gen VI onward (in line with TPC's intent to conclusively shift the target demographic away from males to females--probably why Zinnia happened), Zinnia is the main (or, at least, most egregious) reason OR/AS can't be Gen VI's only saving grace.
>>2069450 >not liking the classic panty stealing old pervert Either a fag or anime tourist Also, people (mostly westerners) forget that Shonen Jump and shonen manga in general are geared toward kids and teens.
>>2069450 Gonna agree first anime had a bit too much segments dealing with him but he was mostly funny, then again most of Ranma cast were unlikeable cunts.
>>2069730 That's gay
>>2069685 Explains why I don't remember her from the original series: they made her specifically for the remakes. Incredibly cringe, glad I didn't buy them.
I'd say Lightning from FFXIII, but it may just be general Final Fantasy fans that don't care for her. Fans of FFXIII specifically may adore for all I know.
>>2069685 Having never played the games, I only know her by her design. I like that her Salamence-styled clothes accentuate her tits. That is all.
Adam Malkovich from Metroid other m. >Game acts like Samus' father figure was her military commander. >Game doesn't mention the actual chozo that adopted her. >Samus' dialog claims Adam was the most understanding of her, but outside one moment where Adam steals the end game area from you, he's just an ass hole. Some claim that he's less of an ass hole in the original Japanese version, but I don't know.
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>>2069685 She got fucked in the PokeSpe manga, at least.
>>2069685 Zinnia has like 15m of screentime total in the postgame and she doesn't do anything at all and loses every fight she's in unless she's teaming up with (you) her entire character is about the ancient guardians of the dragon clan divesting their secrecy and entrusting the future to the modern people (you being the first), it is ridiculous to call her a Mary Sue or that GF cares a lot about her. She's literally there to hand you the keys to her car, pat you and on the back and fuck off. idk if she was annoying in supplemental material like the anime or some of the gachas, because I wasn't around pokemon a lot at the time, but having played ORAS for the first time last year I have no idea what you're talking about. She was fine, moderately memorable.
>>2069340 >Sakurai is just a breathing decoration That's even worse than being a guy who chooses his personal favorites, literally Miyamoto 2.0: <Letting his one hit wonder creation become a circlejerk advertisement for other shitty RPG franchises >>2070073 So the comics have been retconned out of the lore rendering them pointless? >>2069696 >Shonen Jump That's the real issue, not the pervy characters, it's the lackluster goreslop writing that many socially awkward artists tend to regurgitate, never leaving their comfort zone.
>>2068479 This guy is very safe compared to many other creations
>>2068479 >Can anybody tell me why Yacht Club is gay Didn't they add literal tranny options to their games? Why even pay attention to them after that?
>>2070737 i think im into ryona and i don't like it...
>>2071184 you might just hate a specific character and want her ass beat, and that's fine.
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>>2070880 >So the comics have been retconned out of the lore rendering them pointless? The Chozo were brought back for Metroid dread. Other M, despite pretending to be a direct sequel to super Metroid, just has a lot of plotholes and conflicts with the entire series.
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The various Atlus remake girls like Alex from Strange Journey Redux and Nemesia from Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology. Both characters pretty much make their respective remakes much more worse than the originals. >>2069685 ORAS is fucking shit dude and Zinnia is part of the reason why. Funnily enough she could be considered as the Atlus Remake Girl of the Pokemon remake.
>>2072269 Never played Radiant Historia but i remember a lengthy screencap explaining everything wrong with Nemesia. You have that?
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>>2068413 A common feature of the worst characters is that the writer loves them, but the writer is retarded and unlikable themselves.
>>2068413 Revolver Ocelot in all the metal gear games, literally why the fuck is he there I just want to see big boss, especially when you fight him as an old man pretending to be snake
>>2072269 >ORAS is fucking shit dude and Zinnia is part of the reason why. Funnily enough she could be considered as the Atlus Remake Girl of the Pokemon remake. BUT MUH WAIFU!!!!!!! MUH DIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some """people""" need to have their cocks cut off I swear to fucking shit fuck fuck shit nigger fuck
>>2073632 I've never been so convinced someone is a tranny from a single post before in my life
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>>2072269 I liked Alex a little better than the rest of Atlus Remake games, even if there's a mandatory scene with her beating your ass in Sector B and her crashing at the end even if you decide to ignore Redux content Now this girl was something else. She keeps appearing in the main game (and usually stealing afternoon time you could use to advance SLs/Skills) only for her to actually join in the very last dungeon with a quite subpar skillset.
Pretty much every single Atlus re-release girl. Your Maries, Sumires, Nemesias, Alexes, Ariannas, Frederica, Yokos etc. I don't give a fuck about them. No one gives a fuck about them. But we are stuck with them as they destroy every single previously established canon. At least with SMT5V they surprisingly did something decent and separated Yoko to a completely different route.
>>2073993 >At least with SMT5V they surprisingly did something decent and separated Yoko to a completely different route. Yoko was literally cut content from the vanilla release. She was in the game files with the name "chaos heroine."
>>2072675 God, it's like everything wrong with gaming in one concentrated image. You can just feel the utter contempt the writers have for everything good and right.
>>2072675 >sylvanas Dear god I forgot how much they sucked her off. The entire Night elf race was humiliated just to make Sylvanas look cooler. Twice. They killed off Vol'jin just to make this horrid bitch warchief and then fucked 20 years of warcraft lore. It took a lot but the new blizz writers are actually worse than metzen and his orc worship.
>>2077861 Don't forget Nathanos becoming one of the writer's self-inserts who's really cool and Sylvanas's boyfriend and looks super handsome even though he's fucking undead.
>>2073993 I don't remember Etrian Odyssey Untold fucking with or retconning the existing EO lore, just expanding on it and having a "what if" story with a fixed party. The only thing that comes close is the gungnir missiles, and having nukes on standby in case the Yggdrasil went crazy isn't too much of a stretch. Anything else introduced is just adding more background fluff that doesn't interact with anything else. Hell they already had gun blueprints according to what Shilleka said and the tech had been spreading. All Frederica's guns would do is speed that up a bit.
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>>2077861 >Nathanos
>>2077861 Blizzard can only write one female character and she's insufferable.
>>2077861 >the new blizz writers are actually worse than metzen and his orc worship The green fantasy black people are infinitely cooler than girlboss mary sue. They even had her destroy Arthas's soul you know. It's absolutely obscene how much damage they did to the setting just to promote this horrible character. Orcs are probably one of the cooler parts of the setting and Metzen is a cool guy in general. I don't mind them at all. The brown orcs (maghar?) were a bit stupid but it wasn't too bad.
>game series >put a new character in the game that's somehow stronger than MC >if you want to learn more about this character read the comics/side stories/collabs/whatever the else fuck How about no, put them in the previous games or don't do this fucking crap at all
>>2077861 >>2078696 >orc worship The subversion process: 1. Orcs are fictional characters who are pure evil to justify the mass murder of them in a war game. 2. Let's add an intelligent, peaceful orc to the story. It is new and different, and closer to the complexities of real life. 3. Let's have the human heroes team up with the peaceful orcs against both the evil orcs and other humans who misunderstand them. 4. The orcs had legitimate reasons for invading the human realm and murdering every man, woman, and child they encountered. It is not their fault! 5. The orcs are the good guys. The humans are the real monsters! > girlboss mary sue The subversion process: 1. Women are, on the average, physically weaker than men. 2. Let's have a competent woman on the combat squad who can keep up with the men. It is new and different. She is someone that girls in the audience can look up to and respect, and I want to marry my OC. 3. The woman character is popular and there is so much porn of her online. Let's give her a greater role in the story. Make her a leader, make her save the day when the men are in trouble. 4. The woman was written to be better than the men, so that is what she is in every story. And since everyone looks up to her, she also lectures the audience with the author's personal pet politics. (These characters often start on Step 4 without being subverted.) 5. The woman character is better than the men because she has a vagina. She got her superpowers because she has a vagina. And she is fat, lazy, and stupid just like the women who took over the writing team.
>>2079778 This usually happens in series where Teams/writers shift each entry and suits demand a new cool character to sell newest entry. Is pretty shit tho.
>>2078344 Meant to reply to >>2077937
>>2079778 Mega Man X does this in the very first game. God, I hate that faggot, Zero.
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>>2078344 >It's like looking into a mirror FAT
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>>2078696 orcs weren't what was wrong with metzen his problem was CORRUPTION~
>>2084839 You look at the Thrall's Wedding questline and tell that to me again with a straight face. His problem was both having a corruption fetish AND having to shoehorn Thrall into the spotlight whenever he could.
This faggot. There is no reason why he should ever have appeared outside of Lost World. >>2070073 >from Other M Wasn't Adam mentioned repeatedly in Fusion? Or am I remembering things wrong?
>>2085336 Adam was indeed constantly mentioned in Fusion, and becomes her ship's computer at the end, he's also in the Metroid manga.
>>2079882 Blizzard did the "Orcs are misunderstood" thing to remove them from pure evil status and added Undead as the new pure evil, only later to do "Undead are misunderstood" when they buddied them up with the Horde. It's old news but still so retarded. MMOs shouldn't exist.
>>2086448 Were orcs "pure evil"? I don't remember that in WC2 or 3. Maybe it was a thing in 1 but I could never stand that outdated jank. WoW is fan fiction don't cite anything from it
>>2086457 They were comically evil rape demons from hell who practiced necromancy in WC2, what are you talking about.
>>2085228 >Unlike most other wedding attendants (bar the dragons), Jaina does not /clap or /cheer when the orcs finish their vows. >Jaina will very rarely do a /cry emote. Thrall even cuckqueaned a woman that day. KEK >>2086448 >MMOs shouldn't exist. Would it have been better if the same story was told through stand alone RTS/RPG sequels to WC3? I get MMO writing is terrible largely due to the genre's live service nature and constant powercreep, but you'd still have Blizz's writing team at the end of the day.
>>2086530 >Would it have been better if the same story was told through stand alone RTS/RPG sequels to WC3? Without everything having to fit into 2 factions to make the game work and without major characters turning into raid bosses for random adventurers to kill, anything is better, yes.
>>2086448 Orcs stopped being pure evil way back in WC3 though. Turns out they were just corrupted by the big bad devils. The ones in WC3 orc campaign atleast, i don't remember much of WC2 and WC3 story.


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