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Elin/Elona Thread/General: 8ternal League of Nefia Anonymous 11/25/2024 (Mon) 23:45:12 Id: f0b35d No. 1043639
Fuck /v/, this is /jp/ territory now. Remember when roguelikes were fun and not just a cynical means of nodevs avoiding having to handmake content? Remember when Elona consumed your life? Remember eating children and rounding up a monster sex slave harem during a run? Lafrontier certainly remembers, and not even (((Unity))) or ///Early Access\\\ can dampen the fun. >Elin Download: https://mega.nz/file/jRd1jKyY#ZylETgXk_FKFKtsIqpcq_7pCMpcQUyZvj6MHW8e3hOk this is last week's version, whatever >Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki >Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides >Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX >Beginner guide, FAQ and links for Elona+: https://rentry.org/8vkaw >New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://unknown.spam/xccbd5of >Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
>>1043639 How is this different from Elona, in gameplay.
>>1043644 Isometric, way better crafting/building/gathering. Genuinely a plain improvement to base Elona in most regards I can think of, though obviously Elin is not yet done.
>>1043639 >Fuck /v/, this is /jp/ territory now. Tengoo is that you?
>>1043660 Tenwho?
>>1043667 The one who nuked /v/ 3 times and did absolutely nothing wrong.
>>1043639 Is there a steam link?
>>1043644 >>1043646 This game also has given up the traditional roguelike controls for a much more mouse-driven experience. If you got filtered by that when you tried Elona you'll probably like this more. >Genuinely a plain improvement to base Elona in most regards I can think of, though obviously Elin is not yet done I'd say so far that it WILL be an improvement upon Elona once Noa puts more content in. If you go into this game coming off of plus or an omake, after you get your bearings and aren't getting fucked in the ass by the tax man you might be disappointed by the lack of content. However, the game just came out and it's been getting nearly daily updates. Hell, the main quest isn't even done yet. Once the game gets developed a little more I think it'll be well beyond Elona. >>1043843 https://store.steampowered.com/app/2135150/Elin/ I'd say give it a buy if you already like Elona. I feel bad about how badly Noa got screwed by those chinks.
>>1043639 Just checked out the game for a brief moment and it's a little fun if complex. All I did was gather shit and kill low level mobs as a witch succubus. I wonder how I'm gonna managed to deal with all this stuff since I'm still struggling to gather leafs and grass to make a house and a bed.
>>1043951 You may want to change your class from Witch, the main gimmick, Alchemy, isn't implemented yet. At the very beginning, after you complete the tutorial quests, you want to start doing some noticeboard requests in nearby towns (Tinker's Camp to the north and Mysillia to the East are closest) so you can get Platinum and learn all the skills you don't have yet. Just have some goals in mind and figure out a way to accomplish them while paying your taxes and you'll start to naturally progress. Also, since you're a succubus, either craft a loot or use Furniture tickets to grab the microphone in Mysillia and start training your music skill, you can make LOADS A MONEY doing party quests once your skill is high enough.
>>1043955 (Checked) I was thinking of a more non combat approach of making items to sell and taking advantage of the charisma stat.
>>1043957 Totally doable as far as I know. In the beginning you can make good money crafting tables/chairs and putting them in the sales chest. Since you're focusing on charisma definitely train music, it's just as good as it was in Elona at moneymaking.
>>1043948 It also runs on C#/.NET instead of Hot Soup Processor, so it's easier to mod. Eventually there'll probably be mods that import stuff like E+'s expanded bestiary and Omake's dungeon events.
>>1044209 Yeah I'm really optimistic about the modding possibilities. There's already lots of quality of life mods and sprite replacers(which I don't use aside from the one that allows you to change your pet's equipment without the karma penalty).
>>1043958 Started over as a succubus pianist and did the quest. Managed to earn some gold crafting a box with palulu wood and dropping shit I've found, built a house, and so on. My combat skills are a bit lacking but so far I'm doing well starting out. I have to craft a shovel for a farmer but I don't know where I can find the recipe.
>>1044374 >succubus pianist A popular choice. If you do some noticeboard requests in Mysilia you can take the microphone in the church with a few Furniture Tickets, and it doubles as a throwing weapon. >My combat skills are a bit lacking but so far Everyone's are when you just start, the hobo phase in this game is WAY more punishing than in Elona, especially because you don't just start out with class-specific equipment. >I have to craft a shovel for a farmer but I don't know where I can find the recipe I'm pretty sure you know it by default, but it may not show up when you search for it because you haven't created the crafting station that makes it yet. Just looked up on the wiki, it's the Tinker's Table. Also for anybody that doesn't know yet, I'm going to spoil the current money-making meta >collect flowers >deconstruct flowers with hammer to get leaves >create makeshift arrows with those leaves >put the arrows in a compost box to make fertilizer >deconstruct fertilizer with hammer to get corpses >turn corpses into fishing bait >catch LOADS a' fish >put fish in sawmill to get bonito flakes (these are also useful as seasoning in food if you wanna keep some) >put bonito flakes in brewery barrel to get fish wine >sell fish wine in sales box You can make tens of thousands this way.
>>1044455 (checked) Thanks for the tips I already have the Tinkerer's table and already finished the request. Unfortunately before hand I couldn't finished a quest to make a shelf and suffered a Karma drop for it. How do I get furniture tickets.
>>1044479 When you complete notice board requests in towns, in addition to the quest rewards you get influence for that specific town. You can spend this influence at the notice board to reroll the quests on it OR you can go to the town secretary and trade it for furniture tickets. if you click on a piece of furniture in the town while holding a furniture ticket, it will tell you how many tickets you need to take the item. Things like the microphone or other smaller things will only cost a handful, but some are marked as "Not intended for sale" or something like that. You CAN still get them with tickets, but it'll cost a lot of them, like 40+.
What's the deal with the new gods in Elin? Do they offer anything worth getting?
>>1044557 https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Gods Always check the wiki. Now I've always been diehard into Lulwy for the speed, the loli angel and the tsundere mommy prayers. However, both the new gods are, and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, catgirl backer gods. Of note, I would say, is Horome, who boosts magic and charisma stats and gives you the ability to headpat any NPC/neutral mob, which aside from raising affection can cause them to randomly lay an egg that, if it's fertile, you can put on a bed to hatch and if it's not you can cook it.
>>1044564 Ah, I didn't know there was a wiki for Elin already. Much obliged.
>>1044566 It's in the OP, along with a link to all the player guides on it so use it. Just like with Elona, ya gotta play with the wiki open. It's nowhere near as extensive as Elona's, but it's still pretty necessary.
>>1044568 Shit, my bad for skimming the thread.
I played it. I legit don't like how you're railroaded into building your base as a tutorial compared to Elona/Elona+. Especially when Music is superior for farming cash than most of the thing you do in the base anyway. Also finding generators outside of wishing for them is a literal pain. And why does every individual lamp uses 10MW wtf they better strong enough to signal batman in the sky but no they're just a bit stronger than the starting torch. Overall I kinda enjoy it, hope it gets added more stuff specially all the legacy dungeons from Elona.
>>1055857 >railroaded into base building Yeah kinda sucks, but I think they are going to add other prologue options if the character creation screen is to be believed. Also, for anyone interested, I found this: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources Looks like there's a decomp already (which makes sense since its a (((unity))) game). Really the fact that it has workshop support is my biggest draw. I've already modded custom classes in so I can fine tune my starts. Currently running wizard stats with sword saint feat. Good things on the horizon for this game if they keep adding to it.
Thanks OP for providing the MEGA to Elin, but has anyone got it running on Linux? I really want to check it out but I'm having issues opening it.
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>>1058977 Proton not working? It should be assumed the game is Windows-first. BTW latest patch from today. https://mega.nz/file/jvRE2YTS#YPKTkPTZREEbz2yhdVR18w5A9xVFRNWqU_bDQsLfKH4 how the fuck is Game-2U such a good resource for catching up
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bought it the other day because of the consistent dev updates. Very few early access games have this ethic.
Elin update, as of April 9th, 2025. Extremely overdue. https://mega.nz/file/SGRE1TSS#XZ6QKdbIwWPFI9Wbw4tihqWHSReMSKYkmogRAHuIKQU
Already got 300 hours into this. And the devs added a buff to melee characters (enchant specific to weapon types, a weapon skill like Bladestorm/Swarm (think Vergil's judgement cut) and also sword magic spells for spell casters. They kinda nerfed healing power for basic heal spells though, so it's kinda a shame.
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>>1087737 Well, this is my first time trying. I see Elin is not that different from Elon? On the surface literally same shit just isometric.
>>1087906 It'll take you a bit to get used to, I still kinda wish I had the option to use proper roguelike keybinds, but yeah a lot of knowledge from Elona will be useful for this new game. As anons have said earlier in the thread, prepare to do a LOT more crafting/base building than you were doing in Elona.
>>1087906 Elona is strictly more freedom in adventuring. In Elina you're tethered to your base because you're literally paying taxes on your land. It was a leftover design from the original concept of Elin(being a Inn simulator Elona spinoff) so it's not totally like Dwarf Adventure mode or Elona's more overall pure sandbox gameplay. It's less of a roguelike and more like a Souls game (literally you lose all money on hand and at most a little progress on skills). Also, unlike Elona the tutorial for Elin isn't skippable so even as a roguelike you'd be forced to replay the same unskippable tutorials just to get the most basic starting gear. It's a pretty unforgiving game and you could literally die from the most bullshit thing imaginable and lose many real world hours of hard progress just to start over. But despite that it's probably way more polished and QoL over Elona since Noa stopped development of it early on and all the actual work was in Elona+. I think I reached 200hrs in one character before I stopped in December. It's an extremely grindy timesink game where it's 1PM one moment and 2AM the next.
>>1093780 >It's less of a roguelike and more like a Souls game It's just as much a roguelike as Elona is though? >(literally you lose all money on hand and at most a little progress on skills) Correct me if I'm wrong but the only difference between death in Elona and Elin is that in Elona you also drop some of the items in your inventory when you die. If anything you lose more in Elona than you do in Elin. Also you only lose half the money you have on you in Elin if I'm remembering right (I never die with money on me, remember to always use a piggy/kitty bank) >Also, unlike Elona the tutorial for Elin isn't skippable It's just a few tutorial quests before you can leave Meadow and do whatever you want but yeah, I think Noa should add an option that only gives you the story dialogues at the start and just let you do whatever you want in regards to the main quest without having to do braindead tutorial quests first. I think the reason for the tutorial being lengthy and unskippable is that you're generally meant to stick with one character and branch out into whatever you want rather than re-rolling. Outside of class-specific traits that you may later on decide you'd prefer over the class you're currently playing there's little reason to invest time into a new run rather than just grind the skills you need on your current one to get what you want.
>>1094040 I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually get one alternative start with a completed tutorial, worst case scenario I can see someone modding it in
what are some mods to install for elin
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>>1044177 It is a fact and actual law in many states that anyone with green hair is Yuuka.
>>1095003 I don't think there's anything big gameplay changing yet with exception for some kind of fridges, basic rebalances and quality of life accessories, but not of important kind. The rest is skins and graphics but you need to know what you want. Its so dry there in mod section that most mods are below 1mb.
oh my god you guys live!!! i have been hoping someone would make an Elin thread since they pretty much banned it on 4chan for no reason.
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Is this where we stay now?
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are you my /jp/elin friends?
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Reminder that Elin was specifically targeted by /v/ jannies - despite how fucking trash /v/ was on average >NOO WE CAN'T ALLOW A GOOD VIDEO GAME THREAD They deserve to be shamed and doxxed. Fuck jannies.
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>>1105530 Haven't played in like a year or so now. Is marriage in yet? My little girl is getting pretty close to her expiration date
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any new slop models that do sprites better?
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>>1105530 Elin threads really demonstrated just how shitty /v/ on 4chan had gotten. Not only did you have jannies autosaging and deleting threads if they had the name in the thread to the point where people were carefully wording the OPs so it didn't sound like they were specifically talking about the game, you had that one spic spamming "buy an ad" along with porn in an attempt to get threads deleted. Shit got to the point where some anons actually dropped money on ads. On the plus side the ads were great
Man, as the native anon who started the OP it feels really heartening to see it put to good use by enthusiasts and players, especially since you guys fit in better than the other refugees thus far. My effortposting was worth it. Please give the webm I encoded in the OP in the far right a watch, I would appreciate it. >>1105912 Well, except for this, drop the "slop" spamming, no need for ebonics here. Also, since Noa apparently never sleeps on updating the game, today's update, arrrr ye mateys. https://mega.nz/file/bQNDDZSS#DQwIUnL1ZJgtGdQVfHiBfavwMpuNkf6f3X4lmASnF8M
Haven't played since February, any interesting new content since then?
>>1058977 And this is why linux will forever remain a joke.
>>1100204 >for no reason. Likely for not paying the SBI extortion fee. After it got confirmed israel did over literally 50% of the posts sitewide with the leak it wouldnt surprise me to learn jannies were getting paid to shut down any positive discussion of anything japanese, and the only reason they don't glass the threads of EVERYTHING is because banning on the spot FF and faglus threads would make the antijapan bias too obvious.
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Hey anon! Welcome back to the Meadow! Sorry about the mess!
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>>1105530 Too bad we didn't get the mods
>>1105530 4chin (((jannies))) specifically targeting this game (and others) was when i knew in my bones that the site was compromised beyond repair. The day of the leak was so fucking vindicating that to this day I still have dopamine in my body from that.
>>1108380 It's funny /v/ had the most jannies but they all specifically targeted Elin threads for some reason
Wat dis? Post gameplay
where'd era games general end up?
>>1106101 is Alchemy in the game yet? I took a break after playing pretty heavily throughout November on a launch week version and refusing to update so that I could exploit some fun things that were no-fun'd, and was going to return to the game once I could be a potion master on a different world instead.
Noa pls add marriage already
>>1100204 Anon, the Elin/Elona threads were on /jp/, not /v/
I don't want to beat the the game anymore. How do I cheese elin?
>>1109772 I think everyone didn't want to "invade" the /jp/ threads since they were slower and have been around for years.
>>1109798 Buy the advanced license and go as deep as you can to the void
>>1109546 There's a thread up on prolikewoah but I don't think any of the posters are from /jp/
>>1109546 The /hgg/ board on Prolikewoah is where they're at. Barring that, the /hgg/ board here might have a thread.
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I can't get used to the movement in this game, I know i'm gonna like since this type of game is up my alley but the movement feels a bit to fast is the only way i can put it.
How do I max out my damage as a warmage? I don't understand how spell damage works, finally got my hands on meteor spellbooks, but they only do 1d166 damage so it's not better than whatever the fuck I've been using. I only have two mages in my town for books and it's a rare spellbook for me.
>>1110521 Spells scale off their element stat and spell level. All elements have their own stat that they scale off of. Meteor is fire so it should be MAG that scales it. Spell level is like skill level, and the way to level it by simply by using the spell a lot.
>>1105928 >>1105928 I remember people just using words that have elin in it like beeline, feline and delinquent so you can easily search elin and it will show up on the catalog which is pretty fucking genius
How much does the anti magic enchant scales and caps
>>1108478 Basically an open world RPG that gives an absurd amount of freedom. The main emphasis is building up settlements and exploring dungeons but you can also perform music or prostitute yourself (you can fuck any NPC, including lolis, animals, and monsters although sex basically just consists of sprites bumping against eachother). The main selling point is just how fucking over the top it can get with your character and companions. Like right now one of my companions is a t-rex that I've armed with an assault rifle.
>>1110326 Isn't there a way to slow it down on the options? like the wait speed or something like that?
>>1106101 >Please give the webm I encoded in the OP in the far right a watch, I would appreciate it. Is that yours? I've seen that on youtube
Can I talk about other roguelike here?
>>1106101 >Please give the webm I encoded in the OP in the far right a watch, I would appreciate it. It's funny, good job >drop the "slop" spamming, no need for ebonics here I hate the slop spammers on /jp/, If they were manually drawing the sprites and asking for advice I wouldn't care
>>1113386 BN > DDA > TLG(For now, at least) If you know, you know.
>>1113658 BN just made troonshit opt-out instead of opt-in like it used to be.
>>1113702 Oh yeah. I forgot about Magical Nights main guy being into gay shit too.
>>1110077 If you think 4channers are creatures of habit, /jp/ers are even worse. It may legit take them until sunday to realize something is off because they haven't seen any new posts, not even bumps, in the five or so generals they frequent. At least one fag is legitimately not going to realize 4chan is down by the time it comes back.
>>1113658 yeah but BN got rid of Faction camp and still havnt add any kind of replacement to it in all these kind of open world sandbox I need to be able to babysit bunch of NPCs in a meaningful way to enjoy the game beyond hobo phase sure cata got all those labs and scifi monsters to fight but they eventually become boring as well I heard Elin got something that now so I'm gonna wait for Elin ++ to try it
>>1113511 Slop portraits I would understand but do people really used the slop sprites?
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>>1113867 That doesn't bother me, it's their game and they can play it however they want (that's what makes Elona so good). I just find it annoying seeing some retard post the sameish looking slop every day and having what I assume is the samefagging retard go like (((uuuoooohhh cunny))) or whatever. two posts about this is enough and I will now stop my melty, here is the ehekatl daikimakura sprite that one anon edited
>>1113386 Where would /rlg/ go after this lol
>>1114165 it was barely alive literally being carried by one SEAnig just to survived through the night he can finally rest
>>1114186 That's fucking hilarious
>>1114058 >>1113867 >>1113511 The issue is the word, not the content being talked about.
>>1114543 What would you suggest then? AIslop is AIslop
>>1114583 Anything that isn't nigglish suffices, just trash/garbage/whatever. The less you use cursed (((demonic))) words the better, as your IQ and soul won't get drained.
>>1114610 And having an expansive vocabulary has never been a bad thing.
God I hate the ID system, wish I could just turn it off even if it's only on my end
>>1113856 I only now learned 4chan was down
>>1058977 >>1058982 >>1106186 >linux bad Except it took me 5 minutes to start playing in my meme distro numbnuts
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>>1116517 >there are imageboards out there RIGHT NOW that don't let you use custom CSS and JS right on the site
>>1106101 Have they fixed the witch class yet?
found some +tailoring gear yesterday so i finally used my single rare teddybear and crafted a bed, it's about 180% the work efficiency effect of a stock kings bed from mysilia it's probably gonna give my farmers cancer, but getting soil 3 is worth it, I can double the berry farm
>>1118908 Speaking of beds, does anybody know where the Pipe Bed you can make at the Blacksmith table fits into the stamina gain from sleep? The wiki doesn't say shit but I'm wondering if it's more than the hammock that I already have. Also the thing fits 4 people at once, might be good for setting up an inn
Are we gonna move to >>>/jp/ again?
>>1118376 Alchemy stuff is currently being implemented in the nightly versions. So probably soon.
>>1110521 Also a ridiculously strong way to scale spells is to use gear with increased spells enchant. Horne's sword for instance. It can get ridiculously strong if you have a lot of it.
I remember when 4cuck /v/ janny would nuke these threads on sight for no reason. I haven't played since around just before I think weapon enchants were released along with some melee skills but I don't know how much has changed. I had a lich sword sage and would spam slow and ice+lightning intonation and was at lvl 300 depth reached. my team was starting to fall off hard and I didn't do any milk stuff, they'd die fast and it was mostly only my totem doing anything by luring single enemies at a time. has there been any new interesting metas with melee update?
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>>1043646 Has god NPCs been added yet?
>>1043948 >I feel bad about how badly Noa got screwed by those chinks. Never cave in to chinks. There's no satisfying them.
>>1105928 >to the point where people were carefully wording the OPs so it didn't sound like they were specifically talking about the game My heart goes out on you, I personally lived through the age of ABIB's crusade against LC and LoR. Stealth threads were a thing already back then.
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>>1119930 Not yet, I wonder if they'll be at the size of Innos or not.
>>1120942 Imagine.
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>>1120995 I'm imagining alright
>>1120675 I still can't help but laugh at the double standard there. The faggot claimed that LC and LoR threads are all just "the same posts" when Smash threads basically just boil down to "HE'S IN HE'S NOT IN HE'S IN HE'S NOT IN GOOD NEWS HE'S IN SMASH SAD NEWS HE'S NOT IN SMASH".
>>1105530 Was it revealed specifically who had a hateboner for us?
>>1108478 2nd was music I had on spotify and not in-game's
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>1043639 Still a sidegrade to Elona until keyboard shortcuts and hotkeys are added back. Fuck your stupid hover-over-every-tiny-item to find what you need instead of just pressing Q and drinking the right potion. Or pressing shift 1 to use identify wand or whatever item you bound. No, you gotta have a hotbar full of tools that you manually need to hold instead and ghe other hotbar is for your tiny selection of spells or buffs. So stupid. Qol my ass, it's clearly made for retarded children who want one button action to do everything
>>1124082 Knock it off with the namefagging retard, you're not special. We have IDs for a reason.
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A moment of silence to pray for the soul of all the scut anons lost in the hegira when the homeboard fell
>>1125726 Can you also pray for my tinker's and blacksmith's table that got burned because I was too dumb to wall off the Meadow? I really hate the monster spawning in player homes mechanic, it's just a nuisance.
>>1125816 I felt really proud setting up a wood Palisade around my early meadow until my HS leveled to 3 and made property damage irrelevant anyway. Also, get a resident with nursing (like a healer) and villager resurrection times get reduced to less than a day
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early game is such a slog holy shit
>>1125726 Best I can offer is a moment for all the red blooded younger sister enthusiasts that dared to microwave an egg and paid the ultimate price for it.
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I know is not elin, but I want to share my character
>>1123589 Nice and dense cozytown
Is he ever going to make towns more lively? I thought it was really dumb that residents just stand around and give passive bonuses.
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>>1125911 >until my HS leveled to 3 and made property damage irrelevant anyway Honestly I've always used growth suppression so I don't know about most of the higher-level home perks, what do you get at Hearthstone 3 to make property damage irrelevant? >Also, get a resident with nursing (like a healer) and villager resurrection times get reduced to less than a day Eh, I do all my own farming for now since I'm on a fresh character so I don't care about resurrection times. >>1125982 The hobo phase in Elona/Elin is important anon. It reminds you of where you came from. >>1126036 What variant are you playing? Doesn't look like an Omake although I'm not sure if all of those come with tile replacers. I'd guess this was some flavor of plus?
Havent played in a couple months, i think last time was when he just dropped the melee enchants or whatever anything interesting since?
>>1126523 The unstable branch (whatever it's called, I only play stable) is implementing more fleshed out alchemy so that the Witch class actually has something to do. Noa's really keeping on top of shit, quit for a few months and you're sure to come back to something new for now
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>>1126036 >god: Jure of Healing based
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>>1119329 Nah, that board looks dead
>>1125072 What namefagging That's the only post with that name, plus I couldn't post for some reason until I put a name/subject. Kept getting errors. Don't you automatically hide all name/avatarfags anyway?
Have the degenerate mods for Elin progressed past making it easier for Succubus to drain people? I know it won't happen, but a full on hgame built on the bones of something like Elin/Elona is what I've always wanted out of HRPGmaker slop. When I was playing the game a lot I messed with making some custom races/classes but none of them were really balanced. I made a Tentacle Monster that was like an inverse Chaos Shape, where you had a torso, a head and many "tentacles"(hands). I wanted to make it so you could grow another "tentacle" the same way chaos shape would give you random mutated body parts, but since that would need figuring out how to make a new level-up ability I abandoned that. I did figure out how to make the Summon Tentacle ability the god-fairy summon has into a racial ability that works off of stamina instead of charges with some help from some /jp/ anons.
>>1129719 retard
>>1129704 I don't think anything big will happen until it's mostly near completion
>>1129739 Is this game ever going to reach near completion?
>>1129840 Maybe? Elona was free so maybe with Noa getting money this time he will stick it out until the end.
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>>1043948 >>1120535 How's Elona 2 by the way? Also lol
>>1129995 I thought it closed a few months ago
>>1130312 I guess not even the chinks want anything to do with that game
>>1129995 >ah yes undertale redditors vs chinese elona users that always modded nier/automata and fate tracks in trying to make a mobile game Might as well never be interested in mobage market, what you don't know about all the funny ass android pokemon games there? That Elona even has that new purple Charizard on cover. >>1130632 >but a full on hgame built on the bones of something like Elin/Elona Like Violated Heroine and Wings of Roldea?
>>1125982 I don't know, i usually get bored when i have shit ton of spells and all main dungeons in North Tyris are cleared. Its especially satisfying when all those pentagram spammed dungeon bosses are dying in one cast. And then you don't know what to do except to relocate home close to kingdom. I used to play when south tyris was yet unfinished and all i find in south tyris was bunch of sprite glitches.
>>1130719 >Like Violated Heroine and Wings of Roldea? I don't think those games are sandboxy enough
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Hell ye, I finally found you guys again. I don't care about 4cuck anymore, it can stay dead for all I care
>>1131346 Sadly seems like this site is a bit unstable. or Mark is rangebanning my region for some reason
>>1131499 If you are having issues switch the .moe with the .se domain, .se is working fine right now for me. Some regions in europe have been blocked so it might not work if you change it
>>1131872 Nah .se is also not responding
>>1131499 The site is kinda held through hopes and dreams but through the power of friendship we'll endure
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>>1132180 sorry but I don't know how to help you then. I was having issues with .moe but after changing it it's working well. If .se never worked for you it might be because you are in one of the regions where it's blocked. Have this jure to cheer up, it's probably my favourite jure sprite
>>1132197 We need more Younger Sister Power
>>1131499 It's been a bit spotty for me too. Probably the sheer number of displaced anons ending up here.
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Jure Love
How do you turn off debug mode? Is my save bricked?
>>1133945 Sadly Yes. Once You active the witch mode You fuck your Game
>>1134206 I just don't like having infinite materials as the default option when crafting things. It's inconvenient. Surely there's a flag or somesuch I can go in and set to false.
>>1130748 early game Elona was fine, yeah but Elin, with all the crafting skills, and the recipe unlocks, feels kind of bad to replay this is my third time, previously I cheated and carried over my meadow and storage chest, but I'd like something formal like that unfinished inheritance mechanic from Elona
>>1133945 Should've backed up your save
>>1134206 Not if you use Cheat Engine to turn it back off.
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Will Noa add Myroon or the other continents?
>>1136460 I think Elin will get entire Tyris continent at most. So you can shoot up juere with machine guns on safari and punch out Zanan ruler.
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Is the farthest sea mentioned anywhere in the game?
>>1137811 I think those letters you get from the guy who sets up stuff on that static beach tile might be a reference to it.
I was considering making third base in Elin. Lumiest Graveyard or Quiet Beach?
You have a shark sister on your base right anon?
>>1137930 Where are your other bases set up? If being close to stuff isn't something you care about, I'd go with the beach because beach houses are nice.
>>1138233 Just Meadow and ||Vernis.|| I wanted to start setting up teleporters.
>>1138259 If you care about admin points then maxing the hill cave grants another 5 globally(elin's grace). Don't know if you can relocate those static settlements or not
>>1138511 Well, eventually I will get more settlements but for now I need higher Tax Evasion for it to be worth this.
>>1129995 90% of undertroon tracks are plagiarized to begin with and most don't know or care
>>1100204 There was always /rlg/ or /indie/.
>>1140352 >actually recommending /rlg/ lmao
>>1140596 What's wrong with /rlg/?
so is fishing overpowered now or nah
Haven't played in a while, has Yakasha worship been implemented yet so I can edgemaxx?
I doubt Yakasha or Elin will ever be available to the player due to their plot significance
>>1140686 A lot of things are wrong with /rlg/ - and /indie/, for that matter.
>>1140686 Your typical things with dead generals, Ritualpostings, doing anything it can to avoid talking about the subject matter, e-celeb shit, etc.
>>1140686 I remember making a post talking about how good jupiter hell was there and somehow it was the only post that got deleted hours later when I refreshed. There were a couple of posts talking about jupiter hell in there too that wasnt deleted so Im not sure what the fuck was up with the janny there
>>1145239 Was the thread about to hit bump limit?
>>1145626 no, i made the post early like when the thread had about 100 posts
if i want coomer shit should i play elin or elona
>>1145937 neither have coom shit except for the ai stuff anons made in /jp/v/ elin threads https://catbox.moe/c/oxci6o https://catbox.moe/c/3tu77z https://catbox.moe/c/cuzw6t https://catbox.moe/c/42e1po
>>1145937 Elin is still a work in progress so coomershit might not come out for a while if you aren't counting the sprite mods. Elona+ however have the Evochat and sleep sharing that can be pretty lewd if you add the right pictures
>>1146025 Anyone have those lewd static sprites from that one artist?
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New Stable Update https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2135150/view/497193144876532159 >Fishing Improvements/Buffs >Basic Alchemy >Misc
>>1148520 >npcs get pissy if you keep feeding them the same food oh hell naw does this mean they get less stats from the same food?
>>1148850 I haven't played it so I can't be 100% certain but it looks like flavour text
>>1148850 Nope it says at the bottom that the food thing is essentially just for flavor right now and noa will probably make it a world law later with greater implications
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Am I missing something or is there still no sure way to craft the Alchemy Tool? There's one in Tinker's Camp but it's strange that the recipe wasn't added somewhere or made default now that it's actually usable.
>>1151031 I think that one was bought from someone.
I miss craftable water
>>1151031 It was added to my crafting bench just fine bro
Man being able to craft your own potions now is a godsend, my anti magic pets can finally heal themselves.
>>1151692 can your party use other potions besides healing ones?
>>1147253 http://amaebiworld.web.fc2.com/rkgk/elin/elin_replace.htm the erotic ones are linked at the bottom of the page
>>1151943 Nice thanks
>>1151733 Dunno, I made some restore mind potions which goes to my shared potions bagpack and the pets just take them like they do with healing potions, so I guess yes?
>>1151555 Huh, I don't have it even on a new character
>>1155690 when can we impregnate the incarnated cat woman
>>1141069 >Easy source of food >with good exp and potential for all attributes >can be sawed into the best seasoning >or made into wine for money >this trans carpentry for some reason >also get tomes for Mages Guild contribution It's one of the best skills in the game.
>>1147253 Just search for kurogami on pixiv
>New update >Fishing and alchemy Oh shid. I haven't actually played since probably January. Think this should be a good time to jump back in? I don't know what type of character I'd build though. Farmer I guess? Any farmer tips?
>>1160367 Unlock item duping just for seeds. Otherwise, it's going to be a hassle.
>>1160367 >pray to your fungus twink god >plow the fields and your little girl pet >cultivate inner strength The farmer life is simple and pure.
>>1160527 Oh, I didn't realize farming got nerfed to hell a while ago. Shit. And what's this duping unlock? >>1160841 Twink god, understood.
>>1161156 You unlock it by completing first part of Vernis plot. I had problems with getting enough of seeds early on.
how is elin now? i havent played since like december
>>1161880 Play it to find out!
>>1161156 >>1161637 can you not cheese it with delegated farming anymore? manual harvest while leaving the plant rump to be auto-replanted provided perfect efficiency
So now that fishing is getting buffed what's the absolute optimal base for fishing NPCs and personal fishing? Fishing Spot, Beach, Fresh Air, with Demon Invocation on to increase danger level and caught fish quality, and maybe you use the land deed super far away from cities/roads so the base level of the map will be high?
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>>1155793 You wouldn't dare
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I wish we have fishing minigames
>>1169128 Just to know elin have ships and nukes? I haven't played elin yet, so I don't know
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>>1169128 Just to know elin have ships and nukes? I haven't played elin yet, so I don't know
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>>1171251 Not yet, we don't even have ragnarok
>>1171784 Let me guess, the south of tyris is not even made?
>>1173503 That's still a long way to go, Some North Tyris static dungeons aren't even implemented yet
>>1173503 South Tyris is Elona+ shit. It was never in vanilla Elona.
>>1173689 It was planned to be added to Vanilla Elona before Noa abandoned the project altogether
>>1167760 Hill Cave is good if you don't have it already since you can make a cuckbox for enemy spawns so you can activate demon invocation and relocate as far as possible, and has Elin's grace. Otherwise a walled sea fortress should do the trick.
>>1174101 Thanks, the way you describe it, base danger level updates when you use a relocation deed, right? I'm thinking of making a fishing lightouse/fortress in a sea tile otherwise only accessible by teleporter. I already have hill cave for the extra points, and the sea + fishing spot seems like too strong a land feat combo to ignore
>EnhancedSearch borked by update as usual guess who isn't going to touch my messy and disorganized 10+ sturdy boxes full of genes and disenchanting rune gear until the mod updates again
how the FUCK I get coffee beans My coffee machine is just a decoration for ages now
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>>1174423 You'll run into them in forest tiles, they're pretty rare, like maybe 1 plant in 5 tiles. Red berry surrounded by leafy green plant. I'm growing a bunch of them but honestly I use them more for cooking. If you want coffee for stamina/sleep management just having 1 vending machine in base will get you all the espresso/cappuchino/coffee drinks you'll ever need H
>>1174872 What mod adds portraits to the HUD?
>>1174872 Can't you harvest them?
>>1175739 Not a mod, it's a vanilla widget, look for 'Party Info' in the options >>1175879 Yeah you can harvest them, scything them in the wild is how I got the seeds for the tent in the screenshot. Each plant yields 1-3 coffee beans, like other berries/nuts
>>1174405 Is this the case for all non-cosmetic mods?
>>1177401 Mods are only broken by changes to code that they rely on. That mod uses functions that were removed from the game when the related food traits were reworked: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled/commit/0816f720a437465e6bb5b3f5c012c72b2ad5351f#diff-e4a3ae63969d358c88fa20dfe78cc00d9b2a26c864afc2b868050d2278804137
is it possible to savescum the boss loot?
>>1178285 Maybe if you went before going into the boss floor
Is there a seed store in towns?
>>1180544 In Yowyn, but it requires ecopo tickets. Just throws stack of 2 or 1000 of dirt in nearest trash bin to get ecopo tickets.
>>1180733 Fuck, are the seeds random?
>>1181437 Yeah, they are. It's either that or seed duping/wilderness mass deforestation.
Is this game close to leaving early access?
>>1181651 Nope. Not even close.
>>1181700 Should a new player play Elona instead of this? Elin seems interesting but if it's not close to being done maybe I should play the older game.
>>1181651 I don't think we've even reached 1/4th of the way
>>1181744 Honestly, it isn't bad idea. Elin does have a little more QoL than Elona, which makes it harder to go back.
>>1129704 I haven't looked in months but the modern that made the original succubus mod, was fairly balanced the first month it was released. By having sex in made you filled meaning you couldn't get any benefits from food anymore. A pretty balanced tradeoff if you decided to sex your way to higher stats. Unfortunately after that first month the mod was updated to steal 10x the stats and also steal resists permanently from targets. Bricked my succubus. If anyone downloaded the mod in the first month but hasn't played since might still have the original mod.
>>1181651 Elin is still in chapter 1 and sidequest #1 part 4 it's gonna be years for Noa to complete the game. Just hope it didn't go like last time to be honest. >>1181744 Elona+ has easily more content than Elin right now so yeah, go for it.
bros help me on the @ property search for "human flesh" and "stinky" im only successful on finding [poison] which is @antidote
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Which race is immune to the side effects of wating human flesh?
>>1182372 Why would you not want human flesh?
>>1182372 Fairies, undead, and golems i think >>1182520 Turning cannibal gives you stat gain maluses on non human flesh meals for a while, which is annoying. Whereas non-human races can freely switch between dolcett and non-dolcett meals without penalty
What moddies do you pals use? I use the one with pastry putits and that's about it Oh and infinite stethoscopes
>>1182933 touhou adventurers, rimworld OC adventurers, vocaloid adventurers, isekai adventurers, hell even gachaslop adventurers. Just all fucking adventurers
>>1183040 >>1183040 Very neat, I haven't tried stuff like that yet, the putits are mostly for looking at since they're passive and cute (they drop cooking stuff like cake dough)
>>1183040 Are those just custom sprites or do they have custom AI and loadouts? Also is it just me or is the captcha getting worse and worse for some reason?
do auto-dump word filters work for traits now? i still cant separate tainted meat?
>>1183040 i know of the touhou one what are those others? links?
>>1181801 >Elin has more QOL Why do retards who never played Elona keep saying this? Mouse control for everything is NOT qol. Just say you got filtered by the amazing control scheme of Elona which let you play entirely on keyboard, instantly flying across your inventory and letting you use the exact item the moment you think of using it, or bump mining the tiles. The only qol improvement is just the fact you can hold right click to continuously use the tools or just not play the game with autoattack. There are no keyboard shortcuts except >durr press R arf arf to do everything!
>eat >get bloated >vomit >eat >get bloated >vomit >get bulimic >pay healer >repeat step one NICE GAME
>>1183501 >Mouse control for everything is NOT qol. It is faster than keyboard in my case, at least.
>>1183501 I'm still sad there's no Roguelike control scheme for Elin, is it because of the isometric view?
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>347cm >264kg just imagine... >>1183172 They all have custom sprites and portraits, some have additional special dialogue. And they all have spell loadouts that approximate their characters, sometimes even custom spells and summons It's all really variable in quality but the more adventurers the merrier imo, makes cities feel more alive. >>1183326 Honestly cbf, there are just a ton on workshop, just string search 'adventurer' or look at the NPC category. Just checking now and I see there are a whole bunch more from last week
>>1183501 This dumb retard thinks QoL begins and ends at keyboard support and doesn't realize he can press one button to fully stash everything he is carrying in Elin instead of climbing up and down stairs for 15 minutes between dungeons. Imagine looking at the ability to press Ctrl+S to search an entire property for an item instantly with 3 letters of leading instead of manually searching through piles and thinking "holy shit I hate having to click the item after the game finds it for me".
>>1184584 Cute goober on the left, the white one
>>1181651 I think Noa said something "2 years" or so I can fully believe he's never going to touch on this game again after he releases for good
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>>1184510 >>1184943 I'll believe it with the pace of updates. >I can fully believe he's never going to touch on this game again after he releases for good I wont have a opinion until I see what the game is like by then. >>1184510 I think it because Elin plays a little more like Diablo then Elona and other rogelikes. It brothers me that I can't play this keyboard only. You can map mouse clicks but not moving the cruiser.
>>1184636 skill issue
>>1182933 SellPrice, SayPietyAfterOffered, KK Quest Timer, KK Unlimited Stethoscope, Infinite Use Spellbooks, Texture Expand, MilkStats, Party Info HP Display, and CustomAI.
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>>1181744 Elona right now look both are good games, but elona have more stuff, 3 regions open sea and have more chaos in a good way, just wait a little
Haven't played since two weeks after release. Any big content patches so far?
>>1186742 Off the top of my head there's runes, alchemy has been properly implemented (though there's not a lot), new spells geared towards melee players, ranged weapon mods, and various tweaks, additions, "balance" fixes. Noa is updating shit very consistently, if you take a few months off and read the patch notes you're bound to find something new, especially if you're not playing on Stable. This isn't the type of EA game where there's big comprehensive updates, it seems that it's gonna be just gradual improvements until it's "done".
When's the next story update? >>1185572 What do you mean by it plays like diablo?
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FUCK
Is there any way to know where each adventurer is or do I need to visit every town in the game to find them
>Play Elona + >Warmage class >Max Elemental God Faith Reward >Beat the Three Scary Castle Boss (Cat Girl, The King, and The Mage) on level 60+ >Doing nothing but herding and leveling up my Pets >Barely doing South Tyris content, Only Mansion >Is now at level 70+ Bros.... I can't escape myself from this herding jobs....
>>1193012 I think you can check their location from the quest boards in towns
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Bought 3 raccoons from the tamer in the fortune bell, feels good and i thought shivas were supposed to get bonus speed from their god or something, was that changed?
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>>1193269 i dont remember a single shit in the story. i just fuck around with the pet AI and gene engineering and teach them all the spells
Was separating the game's story from your gameplay a good idea?
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>>1196069 You mean how the story is told entirely in far-off cutscenes while you're doing unrelated dungeon diving? I didn't care for it in Elona, it's too distant and ultimately your actions do absolutely nothing. Elin handles it much better so far, the homestead plotline is entirely your own and your actions do directly relate to the plot, while the Mysilia stuff looms in the background with the implication you'll join back up with Ash and Fiama in the near future
NOOOOOOOOO I ACCIDENTALLY KILLED MY WIFE
>>1197319 your wife is everyones wife bro
>>1197319 Why are people still using the microwave?
>>1197319 If I wore my cooking set to get to 200 skill and microwaved an egg in a dungeon could I kill a difficulty 700 spiral king boss in one blow? I think I recall some cheaty console niggas using it to blow up innos turas, so it should be theoretically possible
meleebros... we're eating good
>>1199185 >missing image Yeah that seems about right
...what i actually meant to upload
meleebros... we eatin air
>>1198301 For me personally it's because I don't have anything else to cook food with. I've had shit luck with recipes for shit like the BBQ and I'm still trying to get my pickpocket skill high enough to go full nigger and steal a proper cooking station
>>1199185 >>1199380 I can't see shit Also I just realized that Studious don't affect Farmers... I already dumped 100+ bars into my berry farm too damn it. Noa should implements gold bar refunds for shit like this.
Is using extended display mods to have access to information normally not obtainable cheating?
>>1201239 It sorta is since you have information you can't otherwise see from base game. Unless you're the sort of ultra-prepared anal min-maxer who dives through the source code anyway to understand the exact values and skills monsters spawn with, being super extra careful fighting bosses or new enemies in your permadeath run. Then it's technically just a quality of life upgrade over alt-tabbing to the git. Me, I mostly use ganextend so I don't monsterball any filthy m*les or tr???nies. Kinda retarded of noa to make gender invisible at player glance >>1201239
>>1201545 I shrimply use texture expand to make females lewd and ignore males. But after 999 hours I think I'll probably enable Ganextend now, I already killed innos without it. Fags on halfchan would call me a schizo if I were to say it's cheating and simply killing your first experience with the game.
>>1201545 >monsterball any filthy m*les or tr???nies Low testosterone b*ta male afraid of pixels. There's nothing more heterosexual and masculine than making another creature, no matter the sex, become submissive to you. Also gender is irrelevant in the game.
>>1201780 Pidorashka mindset Sorry nigger. Fucking a man's ass is a faggot thing to do, no matter how virile and masculine you are while doing it.
>>1201956 >he wouldn't fuck a cute fairy (male ♂) Imagine being such a faggot.
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God, I just spend an entire night unironically having a sex training party with my party members and a few other residents like Militant (♂), a Mother (♂), Poppy (♂) and Shiva (♂) etc. Shit was so fucking cash.
>he didn't equip even a full CHA set before the sex party to additionally earn 1.5k orens per fuck / 150k for the whole orgy homosexuals are bad at this game
>>1202783 Guess why did I put "shit was so fucking cash" in my post despite not being necessary?
why a gunner class would use a shitty boomerang instead of a rifle? it doesn't make sense
>>1202873 Are you reading the wiki for help or something? Guns are expensive and you don't get them right away while boomerangs are just a pretty good early weapon in general, I assime. You could always just use a bow too, since I think boomerangs don't use the ranged skill for damage so you wouldn't level that up.
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>>1203007 what I meant was that if I give a boomerang and a rifle to a gunner it will use the boomerang instead of the gun
>>1203305 Oh I see, that's indeed a thinker. I could theorize but I have no idea how that stuff is coded, so I dunno, good question.
i wonder how long it'll take for noa to nerf 'rangs
>>1203356 The more you gloat and post about it the faster it gets nerfed. Personally I still have not bothered using that exploit. I bet I would have killed Innos in a shorter time than 6 hours if I had.
starting to feel a little bit crowded
>>1203337 Pretty sure the reason is the way GoalCombat.TryUseAbility() is written: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled/blob/main/Elin/GoalCombat.cs#L869 If an NPC decides to do a ranged attack, it'll first try to use a throwing weapon, and then try to use a ranged weapon. So if a pet has both, it'll always use the throwing weapon.
>>1203605 That's some pretty cute jank, silly though
Oh no a NPC used items in their inventory how could have this happened.
>>1203565 Scut!
>>1203565 I hope someone someday will make a where's wally using Elin
does it matter if your mount is also on seven league boots?
kek
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I've been playing with those ones for quite some time. I've been always playing with permanent death, but when oath of eternity was still a thing I didn't progress enough to reach very low abyss floors and nefias since I was focusing my gameplay on the "slow life" aspect, if you get what I mean. So I gotta ask, really, how much bullshit is that speed gain and damage? Will I be forced to follow a specific strategy (like having to use X NPC in the party etc.) just to not die?
>finally got a companion high affection enough to sleep beside me what does it do?
>>1204330 Also an eternity holdover here with that setting still disabled and abyss progression currently at ~350 (equivalent to 400 regular) clearing level 500-600 nefias regularly, and once having cleared, albeit very slowly and carefully, a regular 762 nefia. Bosses in the latter nefia would regularly be moster level 1700 or more. I didn't really notice any standout faith bonus on bosses tbh, maybe just once or twice a gigganigga itzpalt worshipper who still has 20+ resist immunity even after you land elemental scar. I have a fertilized knight egg back in base which I thought I might raise into a specific excommunicator build for the mythical unkillable 2,000 speed lulwy worshipper fairy boss, but I've never run into one. Spiral kings / lovecraftians / and now these new handmaidens of lloth are still the biggest issues for their partywipe ball spells
>>1204103 https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Riding#Notes >Unlike Elona, enchantments with "Speeds up Travel Progress" apply when equipped by the PLAYER, and NOT when equipped by the mount.
I miss being able to get resists from corpses
>>1204418 increases your comfiness
>>1204330 I haven't either as I love restarting but I heard that the bigger problems are mage enemies since PV and DV do nothing, and that enemy skill level gets too high for your DV to keep up eventually too I mostly hear complaints coming from melee-folk since magic has AoE combos and can't miss
Is farmer still viable? Would it be better to rush Vernis and unlock that land before worrying about it? Last time I played, I just turned the starting meadow into a statue landfill and left.
>>1216031 The only things that matters are your feats and to a smaller extent your skill proficiencies (can be boosted with plat coins sure but the inherent value being bigger adds up) Farmer has halved stamina costs, if that sounds interesting to you go for it, it's fine. Nothing is timed so you could just sleep instead as another class but farmer is still fine. Doesn't help with combat but it's nice QoL
>>1216077 I was thinking of either doing farmer or a luck-based thiefy build. I remember people saying luck is pretty cool shit, but that was some months back. Or I'll just go wizard again.
>>1043639 >Fuck /v/, this is /jp/ territory now. Always has been though 4Channel.edu newfren.
>>1216349 The OP is 6 months old, anon.
>>1216278 Luck is actually not very good as most things aren't the kind of diceroll it affects, the best it does is make weapons like the railgun better because it rerolls damage and it's dice is like 1d30 or something so you're getting good value I've thought of making a pure wizard with no melee or ranged whatsoever worshipping itzpatl, could be fun
>>1216361 >The OP is 6 months old, anon. Implying a low iq fairy such as myself actually read the OP or checked the dates or even cares for that matter. Who's the fool now?
Did Noa really removed Luck from factoring into the casino games?
alright i want a dragon breeding program for meat. how viable is this? i just checked that its 1% for eggs and its probably even lower for fertilized eggs. do i need to capture a hundred dragons just to start?
>>1129995 >>1130312 Did the Chinks see Elin and decided they had to make their own monetized phone-game version too?
>>1203605 is this gun and bow issue? because I saw npcs using the boomerang and the cane if both are their inventory just fine.
>carbonara recipe >no eggs >no meat >sauce requirement do japanese really?
>>1220742 Noa should add more ingredient slots in cooking. 5 slots is too small.
too many cat retard statues and i dont even fish i think im at 14 salivas and counting already
>>1220574 They were ""fans"" of the game so they have to make a version of the game with microtransactions in them
>>1222972 It's kinda frightening how rabid Chinese audiences get for the idea of having to spend lots of money just to do simple things in a game. Either that or cheat excessively to overcome gaming time restraints and ping fuckery.
>>1223021 It's that bug mentality they have I guess
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>>1223021 you know why
>>1223021 Elona mobile did pretty ok in CN, EN and JP. It had noa's blessing. Then it got bought out by another larger firm and started heavy monetisation. The main scuffle was when Kunpan Games launched their title "black star hero" in Japan as "Elona 2" without permission. There was a massive outcry and the Japs shat all over it. After 5 months of being constantly shat on in app store reviews, they finally backed down and changed the name, but it was far too late.
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>rounding up a monster sex slave harem during a run I played Elin and how do I achieve this? Also, any repo for R18 mods? (Haben't installed any mode in-game, not even GanExtendDisplay)
>>1224893 Slimes and chickens shouldn't be sex slaves... They're too innocent for that.
>>1225149 Oh yeah, what's the insanity stat? Every time I watch bird together, it get higher
>>1224805 What the fuck were they thinking?
>>1225241 I think it's still not implemented, at least last time I played it wasn't
>>1226114 i don't remember insanity doing much of anything in the original Elona
>>1222455 how do you carry statues? is it by grinding weighlift or is there a better method?
>>1225531 "Here's a lone indie autist with some nice brand recognition, let's yoink it. It's not as if he's going to fight us in court or anything."
>>1227899 Getting a golden knight to carry for you is the easiest method
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Also, best apostle.
>>1227899 paper tent, suicide, and return scrolls just be sure you can carry the weighed down tent and don't leave it there until the map resets
>>1228628 I grab it, put in the tent, leave, put the tent in my pocket and kill myself?
Do dyes only work for certain furniture currently?
>>1228719 you'll die entering the tent but the statue will drop inside it then you can return and pick up the (paper) tent which greatly reduces the total burden, go home, and die one more time removing the statue from the tent dying while severely overburdened will just drop the heaviest items on the spot
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>>1225149 you wouldn't a chicken
Are we going to move to >>>/jp/?
>>1232549 Don't think so. /jp/ has a cute cat, tho.
>>1232898 A shame you can't pet them
>>1232549 WHY IS /jp/ IN JAPANESE
>>1230963 Things I've fucked in the game so far >A t-rex >A troll >A little girl >A prostitute >A puppy >A putit >A yeek >An alien >A horse >A dragon Why not a chicken?
I wonder where are the anons who used to gen stuff. I hope they are in a good place.
>>1228719 >>1228828 Keep in mind you can do this method on oath/eternity by not dying by popping your fate shield each time you move it inside and outside your tent. Doing a map transition while squashed/overweight is what triggers the death
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READ THE FUGGING RAPE DOUJIN YOU UNGRATEFUL TRASH
Did mass monsters get nerfed at some point or have I just reached a point where they're not much of a threat? The last two I encountered I was able to kill them before they even had a chance to start splitting
>>1234502 I don't recall a nerf anytime recently on the nightlies, you probably just dys'd enough If you've started casting any mind spells recently, note that Confused prevents enemies from splitting and is extremely effective as an opener against thhem
I don't like the fact that Elin is the prequel of Elona because that means everything I did wasn't canon and I was just a worthless dum who just fixed Vernis a little. I myself wanted to nuke a certain place dammit
>>1234561 unless he decides to retcon elona, we're clearly being built up as the ones responsible for blowing up mysilia and dooming the world to annihilation
>>1234610 Haha that would be actually amazing The world wants to fuck me? Fuck the world. Would be even better if our character in Elin knows what will actually happen but still does it just because lol
>>1234610 *saving the world from annihilation
Are the dinos good as pets?
other than yith, what's a good pet for riding, something with useful spells.
>>1234896 >elona yes >elin probably
>>1184584 >adding every adventurer mod that works based >>1234561 I think it's implied it's an alternate timeline since the dev calls it a sequel/successor on the steam page and _not_ a prequel despite it taking place like 30 years earlier. I guess the POD between elona/whatever happens 30 years after elin is the birth of your character.
>>1235238 I'd like to believe Elin is the "good ending" timeline
I can't help but feel that the Elin early game feels much more fun than whatever the fuck I'm doing with my characters that are already years in. The adrenaline and the butt clenching atmosphere on early game with permanent death active is just something else. No other monster, not even a spiral king, made me clutch my asshole out of fear of it falling out like a mercenary or a boar in my own danger level 3 (hearthstone level 1) meadow did.
>>1235336 isn't that more of a problem where the endgame hasn't been developed yet. You are reaching end game and nothing is there.
Is Shena in Elin, and how is her ass?
Mods for each board are still up on the sharty.
>>1235649 She's not sadly so you can't bounce a coin off her ass. Venis is just an abandoned mine in Elin. You end up claiming ownership of the area and can build your own town there.
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>>1233965 I lost interest in elin a while ago, only popping in now due to circumstances, will get serious again when it reaches 1.0 or some major milestone. I've also lost interest in genning since the big model updates I was counting on were disappointing, left a bunch of stuff unfinished. I've considered buckling down and training my own model on the style I prefer which would make genning much smoother, but I would have to resub to nai and put in a lot of time/effort for something that may not pan out. >>1235649 someone made a nice looking elin size sprite for her but I forgot to save it, no idea where it is now
>>1235649 Play Where's Shena's Ass on the bottom left of >>1203565
>>1235732 What the hell is sharty? I know what the word means but it's a slang for what site?
>>1235891 its probably referring to the people that attacked 4chan, soycucks
>>1235891 soyjak shitposting successor board to /qa/ it's not really worth posting there, but it spawn the soiteen who found the .pdf upload exploit that slayed 4chan
>>1235900 >>1235903 Oh, got it. When 4chan went down I just took a glance there before coming right there. Didn't really like that kind of humor.
>>1235928 >he actually visited sharty they have your info now lol
>>1235976 What kind of information? And what can they do about it except for the fact that I'm a weeb?
>>1235976 I've heard rumors about that. Do they actually steal sessions/cookies? If so, why would anyone use it? Surely someone would be like "man this place is run by retards, we should make one that isn't."
>>1058977 >>1058982 https://www.protondb.com/app/2135150 Everyone is saying it's working. If you can't get it working then you probably need to configure something. Even if you don't want to buy it, you can run whatever you want on Proton without even opening Steam though you'll have to do it through the command line. Look up a guide if you don't know how on your distro. This is all just me talking shit. I don't have it and was just checking out the thread. But I've never had ProtonDB call it playable without it actually working.
>>1235649 Bouncing a coin on shena's embryo
Will noa add the option for your party to play music with you
Good enough I guess. Haven't unlocked King's bed yet. Time to get duping.
I haven't played Elin since last year when randomly I didn't get the ingame christmas present. Has much changed since then?
God I love sword sage. Melee updates have made my cultivator playthrough 100% more immersive.
how much rapidfire is too much rapidfire? I'm aware there's damage falloff from the wiki: >2nd shot: 0.76, 3rd shot: 0.62, 4th shot: 0.52, 5th shot: 0.45, etc. but I'm not sure how that interacts with the 'Rapid Arrow' +1 projectile trait black angels get, I'm guessing that means just an effective +10 rapid-fire instead of doubling the entire 9-10 shots per turn
>>1241002 Mostly small updates. Melee got weapon enchants and new skills, fishing got revamped last update, you can move enchants from one piece of armor to another... You get the present every ingame year anyways.
Does anyone have any good info on beds and how they affect job productivity? A spreadsheet of some sort maybe? From what I'm gathering the main contribution is from quality and comfort traits, but also bed type, so a poor bed would be better than a makeshift bed even with identical stats yes? Also, does value matter at all? I could make a wooden bed out of gold planks for example. Also wondering if it even makes any sense to grind crafting skills for beds early on or if a basic futon from mifu/nefu village will basically mog anything you can make yourself without powerleveling or plus skill gear. Wiki also says that affinity affects job/hobby performance, but not by how much, would be good to know.
>>1241058 i wonder if i should swap to the luck god ust to get black cat
>>1242726 You can go into user maps with a moongate, bring some love potions with you and if a map has a black cat toss love potions at it until you get a fertilized egg.
>>1243098 thank you, ill try that
>>1243098 are love potions affected by the ether hand thing?
>>1243233 I'm not 100% positive since I tend to cure all of my ether diseases but I think only ether antibodies are exempt from poison hand.
>>1241058 Depends on what you're going for. I use rapid fire on my wind bow less for damage and more for the 5% 1 turn stun lightning damage has. That doesn't care about how much damage there is, only the number of instances, so it's full balls to the wall. For actual damage, try allbane.
Why is it called ether hands when you do poison damage?
>>1246518 Because they are a symptom of ether desease, duh.
I'm having issues with trading with the strange little girl, i recruited her awhile back and if i needed to buy anything id just take her back to the garden to trade but she isn't doing that anymore. got any ideas?
>>1235812 I have aaaallll of your portraits. Thanks for genning them. I too stopped playing Elin for a good while. Not much else to do except infinite void dive and meet the fabled integer overflows.
>>1137930 Wait you can make those areas as bases?
>>1244006 That's good to know, I'll stick to 82 rapidfire then. I've found Allbane pretty underwhelming for damage honestly, given that it has much less effect than a specific bane. For example a level 12 dragonbane will have +36% damage but a level 12 allbane will only do +18% damage Whereas stacking rapidfire, especially when you aren't at diminishing returns yet, double or treble damage pretty easily.
Loving the addition of raccoons in elin, if I figured out the gene thing, could I make a decent team of just raccoons?
i need 2 million orens fast. how do i do it?
>>1250532 Blueberries would be the surest bet but setup will take a while especially if you're anal about getting perfect land feats. Maybe 1.5 ingame years for 2m, then it'll be outputting a steady couple of hundred K per month. Otherwise, you can steadily grind bonito wines alongside honey, or start nonstop crafting foreign doors for sale. You trying to get the loytelmart?
>>1251059 no i just want more lands
When's Noa adding a new story dungeon?
>>1252775 According to nightly, soon.

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healthbros... it's so fucking over
Is it really worth going through the effort to get your god weapon licked?
>>1253126 Usually it's trash like +4 fishing or marginally useful things like +5 will, but once in a while you get something like 11 dragonbane in >>1241058 which means forever +33% damage against hell dragons and that boss that make it all worth it Actually licking god weapons or any precious equipment is a bit of a long, exploit-y process involving handing it to and adventurer you recruit, kicking them out, then killing them in town with black cat in your party. But you can do it in a single large batch.
>>1253073 Shouldn't have taken the jab
>>1253151 thank you, another question, it's better to host black angel than to use her as a mount right? and its fine to use black cat as a mount?
>>1253246 Yes on your first one. In general you wanna host high damage characters, especially ranged ones, since hosting lets them save all the action points they'd usually spend and often waste moving and instead focus fully on damage dealing. Black angel or the classic assault rifle bell is perfect for this. On the other hand, mounts get a large penalty to their actions; I don't recall specifically how much exactly but it's like they act only 1/2 the time as normal, so you want to completely focus their build and itemization for speed, once they have enough str to carry you comfortably. So genemodding them for more ring slots for more speed rings, ether gear, +speed ether diseases, etc. I guess black cat is fine, he has full humanoid equip slots, but keep in mind that he'll cast eye of insanity far less frequently when he's a mount.
>>1253300 Mounts act less in that if you move while in combat, they spend their action moving, too. Gotta stand still to let mounts act. Out of combat, moving doesn't consume their turn.
>>1253246 Two points: -Black angel needs to be out of the totem pole if you want her to use boost, as boost doesn't activate on symbiotes and mounts. -Black cat is fragile, and if a mount dies out from under you you lose its speed until it comes to.
You're not returning to 4cuck are you anon?
>>1255741 I'm not going back to 15 minute timers
>>1255741 I've been here all this time.
>>1255741 >take a look at the /v/ catalog since all the old threads are there >immediately reminded that 4chan is nothing but bots and pajeet shills trying to sell you an ideology or product I'd rather just give up image boards entirely than go back to that trash.
>>1255741 They banned Elin threads on sight like many other games, let schizos run rampant and half of the catalog is culture war bullshit. I'll stay here unless it becomes a ghost town.
>>1257651 There was a general but for some reason it was on /jp/ instead of /vg/.
>>1257796 Nigger it was always on /jp/
>>1255741 I've always been here.
Are they the same person?
>>1255741 i doubt we can talk about elin on /v/ again, i guess i'll just keep 8moe and the 4ch /jp/ thread open for elin specifically
>>1260875 The master duel thread is still up and someone tried making an elin thread but it's slow with how /v/ is right now. We'll see what the new indian janitors do. There's always here and JP though yeah.
>>1261206 I saw one of those thread got archived by the mods before hitting page 10
>>1234210 gonna force gwen-chan to read those
I'm so tired of my house being messy, Do I need to deploy 20 maids in my home.
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>>1255741 Their retarded moderation staff forbids elona/elin discussion outside /jp/.
>>1100204 >they pretty much banned it on 4chan for no reason Wait what? Why? I know you said no reason, but what is the excuse? I don't get it.
I guess that answers it. Man 4chan has really gone to shit over the years. Anyway, I guess it's an Elin weekend.
>>1261569 Your policies bro?
Now that katanas have a talisman enchantment, is it better to keep the Masamune for myself or should I just give it to my pets?
>>1262745 Modnegro (ABIB and yournamehere) in charge of 4/v/ hates most games and bans them (blacked threads are ok in the videogame board though) Yes it is deranged
>>1255741 the fact that i can actually post about elin here means i stay here
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>>1262745 this is the most original explanation i got from it. I helped make threads on /v/ back when it was a thing and it was ok in the beginning. >made some elin threads (i was not aware elona threads were a thing on /jp/ yet) >someone asked mods if it was ok for now, they said its fine, its a new game >we made threads that lasted a few weeks, however after the first week shitposter started attacking the thread, doing anything they could to get every elin thread erased, saying shit like "buy an ad" and using methods to get threads deleted like gore or porn >mods got tired of it and even banned the shitposters but they kept coming back, like some sort of autistic rage machine >mods just delete any thread ever made, people complained to mods in irc >no response really, told to go to /vg/ they don't fucking care >mods start handing out warnings >shitposters try to leave generals in /vg/ while elin posters try to do stealth threads on /v/ but they also get nuked for some reason >/vg/ mods start handing out bans and refer all elin posters to /jp/ >elin posters look at /jp/ thread and its a very slow thread, and they respond they don't want any elin posters there, they petition /jp/ mod to ban any new posters (supposedly) but it didn't matter because none of the elin posters wanted to go there anyhow thus /v/ went back to the shithole it was, it was a short less than 1 month of elin threads and then stealth threads until the mods figured out how to see the stealth threads. funnily enough a few other games had infinite stealth threads but they were untouched most of the time, i think yu-gi-oh card video game was one...and uh...one of the rpg games, the one with the purple lady on the front using pathfinder tech, always on /v/ despite it being a stealth general.
>>1263512 Did they ban the ad we made too?
Is it advisable to increase the Ally's Feat Exp? Haven't tested it yet
>>1263524 Not sure. I assume the duration paid for expired.
>>1263730 I'd say so, more ally feat points means more gene engineering opportunity.
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Rate my comfy farm
>>1263773 People still play non-steam DF and use stonesense?
>>1263773 I wish Elin lets us dig into mountains
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>>1263512 >and they respond they don't want any elin posters there /jp/ posters didn't really mind as they were already talking about Elin for a while too. It was mostly the same shitposters upset with threads on /v/. People from /v/ didn't want to cause any issues for the thread with the increase in speed that they knew would happen if everyone moved there. That's the bigger issue. /v/ is lighting fast so you can make threads and have discussion for a long time and you're not at risk for flooding off slower threads or causing the catalog/board to clog up with multiple threads about the same game. So it makes sense to keep discussion on that board. /vg/ really should only be for games that get constant updates or generals that are about broad topics. Anything else can't really live there unless it's constantly bumped with nonsense or someone keeps making new threads whenever the current ends up getting pushed off from not enough activity.
>>1263799 I still remember the spic wanted to bait everyone to /vg/ by making a general, man what a sperg.
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
>>1263954 >vg That eternal rat-race of a board is a breeding ground for schizos, having to bump your own thread at all hours so discussion doesn't get archived drives people crazy
>>1264440 Do quests even give that much money?
>>1264728 For the average player, sure. Finding the harp room in a concert and playing for a bunch of shopkeepers and guards is risk free money and plat while you tab out and read 8Chan. It gets outpaced later on because music quests don't scale past a point and better sources of income present themselves, but they're ok for a certain stage in the game.
>>1264778 Speaking of which, what class combo would be good for Succubus besides Pianist? Pianist seems useless besides the convenient domains, but books can be copied anyway so it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. Farmer for example would allow for more bird watching and just in general lower stamina usage is nice, and you get Gourmet right off the bat.
>>1264778 >better sources of income can you give some examples? i sold some of my fame recently so I could slow down and learn the crafting system
>>1256243 >all the old threads are there It's like nothing happened. Fucking surreal. And yes, as hard as I find such a conspiracy to be realistic, it's as if the whole site's main aim was to change the way you think and the way you feel. Anyway. I can't play for more than an hour or two at a time because I start thinking about how massive the game is, and I get anxious. How do I stop being such a massive faggot?
>>1265246 >analysis paralysis If I could go back in time to my first elona/elin character, I'd have treated it less as a permanent character and more a tutorial/experimentation run. Go drink from the wells, die in a bunch of weird ways, and ultimately softlock due to ether mutations. If you're really paranoid, just remember most things can be fixed. Carry at least one cure corruption potion on you at all times and you should be fine.
>>1265346 Thanks. By the way, do you guys play with a controller and have QoL tips? Sometimes I'd rather play on the couch, but the controls feel less than ideal, despite having been simplified so much.
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>>1265393 >controller Don't do this >QoL tips I still think you'd have more fun on a first run avoiding the wiki, but once you get into it you will need to use it pretty frequently. Most other tips are going to depend on which version of elona you're playing and what mods you're using in elin. In every version I've played, my first goal is always to unlock all the skills- you'll need to grind up platinum from quests a the job boards in towns to buy skills from trainers and you'll also need to get access to all the guild trainers.
>>1265346 Man I miss Elochat >>1265393 Fuck I can't imagine playing mouse focused isometric game with a controller, why not just pull your keyboard and mouse to the couch? Also like what the other anon said, focus on getting skills first
>>1265346 >If I could go back in time to my first elona/elin character, I'd have treated it less as a permanent character and more a tutorial/experimentation run Same, I want to change class but after 400+ hours I just don't want to start the game from scratch
>>1265761 >want to change class I think elona+ lets you change your class with an item. Elin you could probably just save edit to change your class feats.
>>1265068 Executioner. It is a solid class and succubus have more mana than health, so they get use of mana body.
>>1265848 Yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention I was meaning in Elin. I'll look for the save editing thing then
>>1265121 -Growing enormous amounts of blueberries and then timeskipping on the world map -Doing deep nefia -Fishing in a beach/ocean + fishing spot settlement with several hundreds of fishing skill >>1265761 Use the changejob/changerace command in the console. You don't even need to turn cheats on for it.
>>1266388 >Use the changejob/changerace command in the console I didn't know about it, thanks
>>1265905 Does Mana Body work on exertion damage? Could be very convenient in that case, maybe even better than Farming Legs. What does higher level of Mana Body do by the way? Reduce mana cost for damage taken?
>>1267416 >Does Mana Body work on exertion damage? Yes. >What does higher level of Mana Body do by the way? Reduce mana cost for damage taken? Mana body 2 halves MP consumed from at 20% or less HP, while mana body does at 33%. MP consumption from damage taken is always halved, even if you take a hit bigger that 100% of your HP, so wraith executioners aren't that good.
>>1267527 I see, thanks for the info, may be fun to try on a Succ. Inquisitor seems like a good option as well, too bad it doesn't have a potential bonus to Bow, would be nice for Lulwy's.
>>1253858 I've had boost activate pretty often on black angel symbiote whenever she takes damage, gets to 400+ speed and everything. It actually works out well that I have high elemental resists and PV/DV so attacks that barely brush me take large chunks of her health as symbiote and she consistently boosts mid-combat for even more arrow spam
is it a waste to use good genes in random npcs? are the main npcs the strongest?
>>1268613 If you're gonna go all out a hatched-from-incubator pet will be much stronger than story or non-hatched NPCs, since with +30 or whatever milk they'll start out level 1 with hundreds of stats, skills, and nearly a hundred feat points. They'll be behind on actual EXP levels though, so it takes time for their HP totals to get up there
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Do you guys feed your livestock pasture? if so, do you grow them or just find them in the wild?
>>1270028 this was some time ago so maybe its changed now I grew pasture and then realized i needed a significant amount of it. Then I learned the pasture rank didn't mean much (maybe its different now) and then i just tried collecting it while exploring which created a ton of it. I think if you wanted to specialize as a livestock you would need a 2nd land area just for pasture because there just wasn't enough room to put it in your main city.
>>1270034 I tried farming and growing pasture at the same time and it tanked my land's fertility, I'm guessing I wasn't supposed to do that?
>>1270028 I think it's just a cheap feed option if you don't want to give them real food
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>>1270051 as I mentioned you need a lot of pasture once you go past like 5 animals to keep up since its not very fast growing. The solution I arrived at is you need it in a different zone with grow bonuses. Maybe an entire zone dedicated to pasture farming. It does make sense to do so since it doesn't look nice to have a giant pasture field and a medium building for your animals, id rather decorate a nice zone with animals instead of shitting it up with pasture everywhere.
>>1270059 Hmm that's a shame that I have to keep them in a separate zone, I find them barging in to sleep with me very cute.
>>1270204 you can keep your cuties with you, just put the pasture in a different zone, let others collect it and pick it up ocassionally
>frivolously pick Opatos as my first god >gather tons of ore and craft a sun lamp for winter with his bonuses >realize that the weightlifting bonus will fuck me when I convert to get other god pets/weapons >wait until Not Christmas to convert to Jure without penalty >immediately head to Truce Ground and convert to Ehekatl Get fucked dudebro and healslut, I'm gonna piety grind the femboy until I get the black cat. Maybe even the dagger although it kinda looks like shit even if I give it to a pet. So I'm playing as a Farmer class and was planning initially on making my final god Kumiromi because I've been using scythes and the Kumiromi Scythe looks like it has pretty good bonuses if you stick with the faction, but Horome's headpat ability and stealing mana on melee hit is tempting me. Headpat makes it so that you can get eggs (potentially fertilized eggs) from just about any NPC/enemy right? Losing the faction bonuses on the Kumiromi scythe by going with her as a final god doesn't feel too great, that combined with the fact that Muramasa is still pretty good without the faction bonuses has me leaning toward Kumiromi as a final god. What's anons' opinions? The charisma bonus would be nice for fucking around with adventurers but then again I could always grind that out with food, training and music so I'm not sure. I'm planning on dual wielding Kumiromi scythe and Muramasa, hopefully after enough training in Dual Wield to be able to hit consistently and letting pets pick up the slack.
>>1270704 huh i didn't realize you can convert to jure and avoid the previous penalty
>>1270724 Yeah, but only if you visit Noyel during the festival. Keep in mind though, that the amount of days you've worshiped the last god carries over, it just doesn't give you the iron ball that weighs you down. It's most useful with Opatos because the weight of the iron ball is based on your STR/weightlifting BEFORE converting so converting from Opatos sucks shit.
>>1270704 But opatos gives you the mega dumbell so you can keep training your body without his help
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>>1270724 You won't avoid it, you will just get a lighter ball. It's worth doing this either way because you also get Jure's body pillow, and if I'm not mistaken the one you get in Noyel during the festival is very high value unlike the other god body pillows, so you can also use it in your base to increase Home rank. That said, converting away from Opatos is not that big of a deal even if you do it normally, you could prepare a bunch of bait in advance and simply chill in your base and fish while the timer runs out, or do music quests or whatever, you'll just have to remove most of your items/gear since the ball will weigh you down a lot.
>>1265517 You guys were right. I played for 3 hours yesterday with a controller and I convinced myself that it was fine, but I'm playing on the computer today and I feel like the game is 10x faster. >why not hook up m&k to the TV Because I like to just lay horizontally ゴロゴロ like and a controller is perfect for that. Is basalt the way to go to be able to mine copper and get out of the stone age?
>>1272039 Basalt is the best you can get in terms of stone, yes. Worshipping Opatos is also good for starters since he has a faith bonus to Mining. Also, you can make a basalt hammer and try smashing stuff made out of iron, I think deconstruction is tied to Crafting skill, like trash bins or armor stands at the blacksmith in Derphy, that will be a quick upgrade, and you may as well join the Thieve's guild while you're at it. Also, the outer walls in Derphy are made out of basalt, but you'll need to level your Mining skill first most likely before you can mine them with something crappy like granite.
>>1272039 Basalt's probably the best commonly available material. Then there's topaz (dismantle old lanterns), and then chromite (TV sets, etc). You can technically get diamond fragments from Aqui Teola, but I don't know of a way to turn fragments into anything useful. (I tested with mica fragments since mica's default state is ore, and apparently display cases always disassemble into glass, and glass always disassembles into fragments.)
>>1272039 Playing horizontally isn't very healthy anon
I accidentally gifted my little girl my workbench, and she refused to give it back. The next time we went into town, she sold "the loot from her backpack" and earned 20 orens (which she refuses to give me). Her affinity is "respected" (and she's 21 according to her stats btw). Can I get more rights over her inventory somehow? Marriage?
>>1272293 just keep clicking until they give it back to you, -1 karma (-5 for money).
>>1271960 >you could prepare a bunch of bait in advance and simply chill in your base and fish while the timer runs out, or do music quests or whatever That was my plan, I'm still weighed down a ton even without Opatos' ball >>1272039 >>1272098 The Mining bonus at the start was great, I was able to get steel tools within a year. If you go with Opatos at the start rush to get the Vernis mine quest so you can get to the lower levels, there's tons of good stuff to mine down there. Also the boss of that dungeon was a real pushover, my pets annihilated him and he wasn't even able to breathe fire once
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>>1272523 Yeah the mining bonus is really nice, lets you get to steel fairly quickly as you said. If I remember correctly the walls of the cage where they keep the lion in Derphy is made out of chromite, then after you get that you can probably go for rubynus walls at the casino. Golden Knight is also a huge QoL improvement for all that carry capacity, and she tanks well, and getting 15 faith doesn't take long. Then the +100% hp mace with earthquake is super nice as well. Opatos may be the best god to start with honestly.
How do you guys feel about NPCs being able to contract ether disease?
>>1273684 Pretty good. All DPS followers get to hang on the billy-beating gallows until they get hunger for violence
What do you guys cheese for best effects? At the moment ive only cheesed soy sauce. On that topic is there a way to cultivate sea weed?
>>1279263 There's no reason to cheese soy sauce, as the entire point of cheesing something is to make it valid as a condiment. Since soy sauce and bonito flakes are already condiments, cheesing them is a negative in destroying their perception enchant. The only recipes that demand cheese in burger and kid's lunch are outclassed by star gazy pie when it comes to fish.
i got a wish, should i just get a generator or something
>>1279435 Gotcha, when i got star gazy i started making that a lot more since its easy. Thanks!
Is there any way to make milk an actually useful ingredient. Like is there an alternate gelatin recipe that doesn't involve mashing two putits together.
>>1279529 The new coffee drinks count as "milk", right?
>>1279629 Yes and take in all the stats from beans and sugar. If you get hot cocoa you can use palulu's too. And if you use blessed milk the coffee and the final dish comes out blessed, of course. Delux snow putit cakes are extremely strong now, not as strong when the current gelatin slot was once a general condiment, but still really fucking strong, especially when blessed. Feeding one to a pet typically means 5-6 stat ups since the base dish gives stat EXP to everything.
>>1279460 Is it your first wish? people usually wish for a snowman generator
>>1279659 yeah, i already have seven league boots and a vindale cloak from fighting other adventurers
How can one acquire an Apostle gene? Is it only doable through a Moongate, or can I breed my own and farm them for a gene drop? Do friendly NPCs even drop genes?
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>>1282464 Must moongate. There are a bunch of gene farming maps up atm, you'll be fine.
>>1282685 Man I really need to get into Moongates. Do I just get the basic one to visit other people's homes and the more expensive one is for sharing your own? Both my Meadow and Vernis are so shit I don't want people wasting their time slaughtering unfed livestock.
any real way to level riding?
>>1284049 ride something a lot pump coins into riding skill
is beautify compatible with the latest gx custom version?
>>1284169 it's missing some recent mobs, namely some new rats and the origami summons either copy paste them from the original character.bmp or don't use those
>>1284049 Ride something while either fishing or playing music. Any action that takes a lot of time. Also keep in mind that Riding isn't the only thing that affects your speed while mounted, you may have to feed your mount STR food to get it to carry you well enough.
>>1284186 so its safe to use the rest of the files as long as I dont touch character.bmp?
Where the FUCK do you get a hitching post?! Damn you Noa.
>>1284759 I think you need to craft those, as for the recipes...
>>1284759 Plenty of towns have one you can ticket. Palmia has one by the well in the lower right corner of town.
>>1284892 what do they look like/?
Man I hope Noa doesn't pay any attention to the shitcord at all. I went there to ask a question and saw some tranny baby-speaking at people while the other server members jerked him off. It really perplexes me that he didn't make his own official server, but instead joined up with these freaks for his kickstarter and project updates.
>>1286005 I think he's just afraid of having to manage the community
>>1286005 The Japanese side on the discord is nice, friendly, and on-topic. The English side is a complete clusterfuck of fuckwits that can't go two minutes without turning the conversation about themselves. Be it their sexual degeneracies, one guy continually shilling his cheat mods while another shills his Elona+ ripoff mod, or several bitches whining about how underpowered their class is. I'm mostly sticking to the Japs while there and use mtl to ask my questions because I'll actually get an answer instead of two "transbians" fellatating each other or a chink trying to sell me his "milkmaxxing" mod.
Anyone know how Reboot work? Does it self-revive every time, or is there some kind of cooldown to it? And how does it interact with Revive and Lay on Hands? Does Reboot take priority or will those abilities be used first?
>>1286304 It has a 50 turn cool down, clears all statuses, and restores 25% hp. I don't know if there is any kind of priority.
>>1286340 I see, thanks. Guess I'll just have to do some testing. Would make sense for Resurrection and LoH to be used only if Reboot is on cooldown.
Where can you get a globe for the detector?
>>1286854 I think there's one in Mysilia in a house in front of the bank. May be misremembering though.
>>1286854 I know offhand that there's one you can swipe in Fortune Bell. They're not too uncommon.
>>1286854 Orphanage. You have to break/steal it in order to get the small medal below, so it's easy to remember.
Is it possible to get a Mana Body gene somewhere? Is it also a Moongate exclusive? There aren't any Wraith NPCs from what I can tell.
>>1287348 Eureka, death armor, and turtle have mana body.
>>1287364 Right, Eueraka is an Executioner, forgot about her, thanks. Can superior genes also drop with all of the spells that a given NPC has or is there some sort of limit to it?
>>1287450 Superior genes are guaranteed to have one special (body part, ability, feat, etc) and a 33% of another one. Caps at two.
>>1287450 >Eueraka Not sure how I ended up mangling her name like that. >>1287740 Gotcha.
are there any mods or a way to replace game's OST?
>>1289052 Yeah, last I checked on workshop with the CWL framework there's a way to do it, and even a proof of concept mod wholesale replacing/adding more dungeon tracks ripped from some chinese mobage gacha (was interesting to try, but the music wasn't to my taste so I eventually disabled it) There may be more stuff now using the CWL. And conceivably one could grab that chinese mod as a framework, disable the track replacements of the main menu and other stuff, but keep the scripting which adds more nefia songs to the playlist for variety.
I still haven't found the coffee plant or any of it's seeds. Man I am bad at this game.
>>1289327 it's in forest maps in the overworld. Just comb the whole map.
>>1289060 Anyone ever tried something similar to that mod?
>buy a carbuncle and feed him STR food until he can carry me properly >worship Ehekatl until I get the Black Cat >put the cute little guy on my head to cast Bane and lick all the garbage equipment that drops >Black Cat constantly cuddles and encourages the Carbuncle whenever I stay put in the same place for a few turns Is this common for Symbiotes or is the Black Cat just a bro who likes to fluff up his fellow cats? >>1289327 I can't remember if it's the Api nuts or the Crim or maybe another plant you find in forest tiles but they look a lot like another common bush and coffee ones are relatively rare compared to those so make sure you mouse over everything.
>>1289841 Mobs with the "mofu" tag will be molested on the regular by anything else.
Can Blood Arrow still generate as a random ability? I feel like I've either read or heard that it can't when a patch came out a while back.
>>1289841 >they look a lot like another common bush damn now i feel stupid for not expecting that
Game crashes whenever I try to enter eirel, it gives me an array overflow error, I have no idea what to do. Im using custom GX version from the OP, tried reinstalling with no good results.
Important notice: I want to kiss Lulwy's ass. That's all.
>>1292100 Even when you're not looking out for them I think they're still kinda rare, I'm not surprised that you haven't found any yet. I've only collected like 2-3 seeds myself, although I've not really made finding them a priority at all.
is there a way to quickly shovel an entire plot of land you own, doing it manually takes forever
>>1295183 As I understand it haven't reached this quite yet because I'm afraid of fire hounds but once you reach a certain Hearthstone level the build board will let you change any wall/floor for money.
>>1295291 what do I get the feeling that by the time thats done you might as well have done it manually, fully built a base and hit endgame
>>1295183 You can use build mode and convert everything into whatever floor tile you want. But that requires level 6 hearthstone and the materials in your inventory/chests.
>>1295308 alright thanks
>>1295291 >fire hounds ??? >>1126480 >what do you get at Hearthstone 3 to make property damage irrelevant? Oh. As soon as your Hearthstone hits L3, item destruction never happens at that base. Nothing ever burns or freezes. It's listed on the wiki as "Item Protection".
>>1296162 >As soon as your Hearthstone hits L3, item destruction never happens at that base. Nothing ever burns or freezes. It's listed on the wiki as "Item Protection". Oh shit I didn't even know that. Nice.
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Anyone else feel massive autism/ocd about where to have your main base and what to use your lands for? The way I see it a higher pop cap is always better than additional admin points since you can get NPCs with Pet hobby to compensate, and from what I understand once a policy is enabled you are free to dip below the necessary admin point requirement, the policies will still work. Plus you can stack network bonuses from Meadow and Cave for 10 additional admin points in every base with network access. Between Vernis and Meadow, Vernis feels like a better main base since it has a Nefia that you can farm for various resources, but it has an awfully low popcap and you'd have to grind Hearthstone levels to not affect job efficiency. But job efficiency could also be ignored completely, then one could just enable guest and shop sell price policies, plus utility policies, disable Tax Free Land and populate as much as one wants. But if selling items to guests is irrelevant then Vernis sucks all around. Meadow can basically achieve the same thing with the downside of less admin points, but there's ways to get around that. I don't know.
>>1296779 i have this too but i learn to live with it. my ocd is mostly related to house and design planning but being able to change the size of the land causes calculation errors
What did they mean by this?
Where can I get high level monster balls from, ones that reach the lv600 range. Also what's the current best method to power level a hearthstone, i remember vaguely it was just selling thousands of junk stones but idk anymore. Thanks in advance
>>1300822 selling pebbles(mine tower nefia, hammer to junk, stonecut to pebble) is the active way stacking pioneer residents and waiting/traveling is the passive way
>>1300822 >Where can I get high level monster balls from, ones that reach the lv600 range. Investing a merchant that sells the balls seems to do it. Loytel mart sells the monster balls regularly when you max upgrade it but I don't know if it scales from development.
>>1300928 Nice, I'll give that a go tonight, want to make an area just to make it into an insane farming land, or pasture land maybe >>1300998 Haven't paid Loytels debt yet, i'll go do that and see if investing into the market or home does anything with the balls. Thanks
>When dismantling craftable furniture that allows different material types (e.g., ingots or logs) as the main component, the returned items are now determined by the original material used (e.g., logs for wooden furniture, ingots for metal furniture). (Experimental) It's fucking over.
>>1301542 Calm down anon. The only thing this actually affects is the new pole partition item. Everything else works fine.
>>1301553 Hope they doesn't touch other recipes. Maybe log>ingot was too far for Noa.
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How's this loadout?
Did the shipping box quest but now I'm not seeing the farming quest that comes next in the chain. Did I fuck something up by making Loytel my maid? Or do I need to accept the tax quest I've been trying to see if I could put off?
Any beekeper anons around? Do defertilized flowers contribute to honey production?
>>1301890 You only need one instrument. I use the taiko because its track is the shortest and hence wastes the least RL time.
>>1302107 I didn't know there was a track length difference, good thing I'm in nefu village right now so I can get a taiko Also, eureka is a good tank right? I managed to recruit her after a shit ton of alcohol, watching birds, and incognito spells
>>1302105 I believe it does, yes.
>>1302206 She has good debuffs and Mana Body since she's an Executioner, but no Taunt or healing spells. Stats wise I think she's about as strong as a normal town guard.
>>1302105 >>1302209 Also, cotton counts as a flower.
>>1302105 I've got a field of defertilized flowers and my beehives all produce honey as expected.
>>1302292 >no Taunt can you fix that with science?
>My little sister cuddled me without my permission and made me lay an egg. Being a Mifu is hard.
>>1301774 Looks like that's the case. As near as I can tell from TaskHarvest.GetIdDismantled() and SourceCard, it now looks for there being multiple possible main materials in the item's crafting recipe, checks if the first option is "ingot" and the second option is "log", and then changes the dismantling result from an ingot to a log unless the item's material type is "rock", "ore", or "gem". So I guess if you had, say, a plastic log, you could still turn it into an ingot?
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So, I suck at this but I ended up porting Rami's sprite from MGQ Paradox some time ago, she's really small. As well as some artist's Rosa sprite from somebody's fangame. They both shouldn't have any sprite errors as far as I've tested. I might do a few others later on
>>1302456 Good to know. >>1302717 If you can find a gene with Taunt on it yeah. I don't know if her combat AI will use it though, if not then you'll need a gene for that as well.
Delegated farming keeps sending stuff to the shipping box despite there not being one in that land, is this a bug?
>>1307419 You need to set a container to accept the items.
>>1307431 Oh, I messed up the filter config. Thanks for that.
How does two handed work with multiple arms in elona+? One hand for each pair?
>>1311870 All hands except one must be empty.
>>1312098 Is it worth it though? Actually what's the recommended setup for additional body parts if I'm playing two handed?
>>1312236 It and light armor are the only real options for spellcasters since anything else lowers the spell cast success cap. It gives a large bonus to damage multiplier and accuracy in exchange for only having one thing in your hands. Weapon must be 4s or more weight to avoid penalties. I wouldn't say it's so much worth but rather it's the only real option. Dual wield sucks in E+, and doubly sucks if not using CGx for a bunch of reasons ranging from accuracy, how weapon weight affects damage and dual wield can't use heavy weapons, to retarded E+ mechanics like the chain hit penalty.
Do you get increased monthly taxes if you build more than 3 bases?
>>1313514 No it just increase from fame and each year passed.
>>1312351 Alright thanks, I went for four arms for now as the HP penalty is too much at my level
>>1313514 the taxes on land without the 'tax-free' policy are just taxes on the revenue they produce think this excludes shipping bin income, the wiki should have the details somewhere
>>1313514 The Tax free thin on your first 3 bases is that income from those bases is not taxed, so you get all the money that is produced there. For everything past that, your income is lower than it should be, but it's deducted directly from all money produced, not as an extra tax payment
>>1314591 >>1314687 Now hold on my shub nigguraths. This only applies to taxes and tourism, does it not? Income from selling items to visitors is not taxed, right?
>>1315063 Yes, I'm 99% sure shipping box sold items are not affected by that tax, only tourism, inn, resident taxes (Faith Tax etc...) and shops
>>1043639 Sorry, if I'm dumb. I dl'd the link, tried to start it up, but instead Steam opened and an "invalid license" message showed up.
>>1315185 Just buy it. It's not expensive and pirated versions are always out of date because there is an update almost every day
i bought it when it showed up on steam storefront 300+ hours played now resting while updates accumulate
>>1315431 I'll buy soon then after I get paid. I don't know when that'll happen though
>>1315431 >because there is an update almost every day If the version in the OP was current when ti was posted (probably not), this is the amount of changes since then: https://pastebin.com/nBU5UGJU
Sunken ruins media type dropped on nightly. Notable resources: seaweed, coralwood, salt, sulphur. Underwater field effect affects speed from 50 to 125% based on swimming skill. Enemy selection is easy considering spawning restrictions forbid problem races like yith, dragons and giants from spawning.
>>1313681 >>1314591 >>1314687 sick. guess i should finally get to making my fishing village.
>>1319148 I bet Dungeon Cleaner is still gonna be there.
>>1319245 I did about 12 runs and no, he does not spawn being machine race. On the other hand weird stuff like pigs spawn because sea lions and seals have pig as a race.
>plant the seeds Loytel gave from the quest >Harvest 90% of it before realizing they were all shriveled because I didn't realize I was way in the negatives Am I fucked for food early on now? I'm trying to race around tiles getting meat and whatever berry seeds I can find
>>1319148 >seaweed Sweet, hopefully this makes it easier to collect in bulk. Having to trek out to a beach to get one or two per area is a pain. >>1319550 Don't sweat it; absolute worst-case scenario you could dig up grass to cook into stew or whatever to keep from starving. You learned some crucial lessons about farming and clearing out your property, anyway. It might be a good idea for you to initially focus on growing mushrooms, since they can grow year-round. (The tutorial fairy will warn you when winter is about to freeze your other crops.) Eventually you'll be able to make sunlamps that let all crops grow during winter, but mushrooms are a good way to start farming.
>>1319550 As the other anon said, mushrooms are easy to find, and they take a single day or less to grow. As long as you have a sickle you can get a bunch of seeds fairly quickly. You can also get a bunch of different seeds by doing Harvest quests, just use your sickle to snatch some. I'm assuming this still works unless a recent update changed something. Yowin has a lot of Harvest quests, and they also grow wheat there that you can privatize and the cost of some karma. Another option is to just buy food since vendors will most likely have better food than what you can make yourself early on. You can stack Patrol(kill hostile creatures) and Extermination(kill all hostile creatures on a map) quests for example for some good cash and influence, plus the occasional meat drop. Aquili Teola has a high ratio of such quests I believe, but not a lot of shops unfortunately, and I think no Informer, but you could take a trip to Derphy or something from there. You could also do this in Mysilia or Palmia, but there will be more quest variety so it may be abit more difficult to chain them, but way more shops. Keep in mind that your fame will likely increase fairly quickly if you do this a lot, which will in turn increase quest and nefia levels, so you may want to sell fame at an Informer every now and then.
>>1319550 if you haven't already make a sickle then go and sickle everything outside your base to get a bunch of seeds in critical situations you can also get some seeds by steaing from other town crops by sickle them and there is 1 or 2 shops you can buy seeds from.
>>1320917 Just to add to this, I've found that harvesting/reaping seeds in towns doesn't always result in karma loss even with witnesses around so it's relatively safe. Reaping in Yowen and the catgirl villages are the only reliable places to get wheat/rice seeds respectively starting out.
Are there any mobs that have Earthquake by default or do I need to roll a Mani gene for it? Because Evolved mobs are exempt apparently, unless the gene they drop is not affected by the same rng restrictions.
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>>1322820 It can happen.
>>1322858 Interesting. The wiki says that cut domain spells don't generate on evolved mobs either, but I wonder if a gene can still have things like Blood Arrow then since Earthquake is apparently possible.
>>1322858 what the hell was that turkey made of
>>1322820 Cyclops has earthquake innately.
any way to reduce ally's weight?
>>1323950 Feed them foods with catechin as ingredients would probably work, never tried it though.
>>1324050 gonna try, thanks
>>1323950 isn't ally weight just a number? ie doesn't do anything except let you imagine it?
You know, I've just realised: CWL is basically Elin's HAR. A framework that greatly simplifies modding and makes it accessible to a whole bunch of people. Since all you strictly need is an excel sheet, there's shaping up to be a huge number of trash mods the same way there are a bunch of trash OC donut steel race mods in Rimworld
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meat -> kibble -> cheese is awesome
>>1329994 i can't over how disgusting it sounds
Bell Gunners are so good. Want to make a Bell tank but getting leveled milk requires getting a level 200+ mob and milk it but a level 2000+ mob is more ideal since it gives you plenty of feat points to add 100+ feat point genes into your bells.
Does it matter where you collect farmers from? I recruit them off that village with the ecopass but i was wondering if other village would have higher leveled farmers with better farming? Anyone know if this is the case or it really doesnt matter at all. Thanks in advance
>>1330799 this is a bit foggy for me but if i recall the farmers that work for your the skill level they have is important, but there are thresholds where it improves the result.
>>1330431 No need to go too high, milk effect is capped by taming.
>>1330431 Have you tried stacking Rapid Arrow genes on them? I was thinking about 4-5 Rapid Arrow genes and 1-2 Mana Body for survivability, or just go all out with Lv 6 Rapid Arrow. But why would you want a Silver Bell tank? I guess it could work with something like Celestial Fox and Mana Body, but a higher HP mob would be better either way, no? It feels like getting a higher hp mob more speed with Lulwy faith and Memory of Finger genes for extra speed would be easier than making a Silver Bell tanky enough to compete, though I don't know how much a Silver Bell can tank with a bit more hp and/or Mana Body on top.
>>1331762 not him but don't bells have the special 'metal' trait that means they only take 1 hp loss from every source of damage? Balanced by their tiny life pools, but you can increase that exponentially with gene'd body parts and rubynus gear, and/or +life gene traits
>>1331764 Yeah, but I don't know just how much tankier that feat makes them with extra hp, hence why I said "I don't know how much a Silver Bell can tank with a bit more hp and/or Mana Body on top", so they could be super strong tanks, I just haven't seen anyone use them as tanks or tried it myself. Because normally they'll die from a single hit or two if they do end up taking damage.
>>1331762 MP damage to mana body is not reduced by metal.
>>1330830 Mostly was thinking if they had better Soil + in them so I can just farm more while im working on nefia diving for gold and medals specifically. But fair enough. On a separate note, anyone know a way to alchemize dark matter into an ingot, I've gotten to rocks and made myself dark matter tools, working on getting more chunks for the water jug but I'd like to make a dark matter watering can cause i just want it. Anyone know a way yet? Thanks!
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>>1333412 Disappointing.
>>1335188 its something like higher farming skill contributes to upgrading +soil, but so does their bed and stuff
>>1335188 There was a recipe on nightly that would be used to transform logs into ingots, but Noa decided to nerf that recipe in particular. You would need to break five gacha items into ore/ingots/scrap. or use map related, it has dark matter scraps https://files.catbox.moe/5pgpfa.z
Noa should let us gene engineer the player character. Or even better, allow switching out the pc with a follower.
so how does the mod load order work?
>>1295951 Licking Lulwy's armpits! Kissing Lulwy's legs! Worshiping Lulwy's feet!
>>1345882 Same as any other mod system, each mod gets applied to the game in order from top to bottom. If a mod requires a different mod to work, make sure that the required mod is up higher in the load order than the one that needs it, or else stuff will break.
>>1341641 Got myself the hilariously large DM Watering can thanks! Only to now have everything in the world turn into dark matter . . . Thanks Customer Whatever Loader!
Is there a good way to level up livestock?
>>1348792 in Elin or Elona?
>>1349384 Elin. Also wondering if anyone knows how many pebbles it takes for each hearthstone level.
>>1348792 Realistically, taking them with you in nefias and feeding them good food. Or going to high level nefias and capping them with a high level monster ball. If you're only in it for a method for textiles then cotton is easier. If you don't mind mods especially really op one can use the cultivator mod and collect a whole lot of jindyas to feed to your pets
>>1351590 Monster balls seem like the most sensible option then. And thanks for reminding me about cotton.
>>1352352 Best part about cotton is the fact it counts towards beehives. I got a whole base with just cotton and beehives
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>>1348792 what do you get from leveling up livestock? I mean besides their stats being higher
>>1353790 You can shear better quality materials off them.
>>1353804 does it affect egg quality or offspring?
>>1353814 Don't know about egg quality but it does affect their milk.
>>1354105 >it does affect their milk am turning Gwen-chan into A+ loli cattle then
>>1354105 You sure? I thought only base stats affected milk.
>>1355410 The + values on milk come from leveling up past the initial npc base level, no? Which in turns determines how many feat points are gained when fed to someone. That's how I thought it works. Maybe leveling base stats also contributes level exp, I don't know.
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>rocks fall everyone dies
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gottem exact same way i killed innos, can't beat the ol' reliable mindbolt
>>1357666 how do you manage to get that many charges of many spells? does it have anything to do with Learning stat?
>>1357666 thought you'd try to clone bahumet. or you only cloning the cute ones. lololol
>>1358162 >Learning stat more the memorization skill, the first alt equipment set I made was +memorization which I wear before reading any books or going to bed with a full grimoire, that and mana battery + absorbing all the rods I can get my hands on On mind bolt specifically, I rerolled a magic vendor till I got a 7charge one, blessed it, and use 2/5 of Demitas' slots on it, since it's my main offensive spell. >>1359183 Oh lol totally forgot about the egg whip in the heat of combat. I don't really like Bahamut's kit tbh, a meteor pet sounds like a hassle. Ungaga or Isca or Dungeon Cleaner with a boost and heal before death sounds like a better pet. I dunno if I'll switch out any of my main 8 permamently though, I've grown attached to them. More likely developing some pets for tactical switch-ins. And probably I'd even make a knight companion first for excommunicating high-level lulwy bosses before even raising a boss pet
>>1357666 did they change the mind bolt graphic/animation? I don't remember it being a laser
>>1359436 I had no idea that mutation actually did that, thought it would do something like regen mana
>>1359771 >regen mana That's meditation, I guess it's easy to mix up the two
>>1359436 You gonna use big sister? her potential for Eye of Mind, Greater Evasion, and Dual Wield are stupid high. plus her combat kit is pretty good and she's fast as fuck with adam 20
>>1360134 huh, her young form is Roran right? That gives her a GOOD_MOUNT flag I believe. Might actually pick her up for a riding mount for specialized tasks where I need to utterly speedmax, fully kit her out in <<memory of finger>> speed rings and spirt cloth, lulwy book, etc. I'll add that to my to-do list lol
>>1360187 big sis is still classified as roran
>>1329994 What makes kibble such a good thing to turn into cheese? Nutrition? What makes something a good base ingredient to make cheese? I'm trying to plan out a halfway decent Soft Fluffy Bread to make but I'm not sure what to use as cheese. Can you still make Soy Sauce into cheese?
>>1360289 kibble if i remember correctly since i stop cheesing kibble, but it should turn foods into processed foods so it doesn't rot, the final product. You can still soy into cheese but i wouldn't recommend it as it's more useful by itself. You're better off cheesing eggs to use said eggs as seasoning.
>>1360323 not going to like but eggs converted cheese sounds disgusting
>>1360329 gotta do what we must for some sweet stats ykwis
>>1360323 >but it should turn foods into processed foods so it doesn't rot, the final product Ah ok. I started farmer so I'm more of a home body that dives into Nefias close to wherever I'm at and I'm still at relatively early game so meat rotting isn't so much of a concern. >You can still soy into cheese but i wouldn't recommend it as it's more useful by itself. Perhaps but cheese adds END potency. I want some END for my Black Cat and my Golden Knight tank. >You're better off cheesing eggs to use said eggs as seasoning. I'm saving the one Corgon egg I have for that so I can have Kettle duplicate it.
>>1360372 Fair enough, though i'd personally just breed cabocchj or gourd for more endurance or if you got the time to specifically breed for it in other plants. Then cheese it for more end Should be quick if your following Kumiromi
>>1360452 >cabocchj This a typo? The fuck are you talking about? >gourd Can't get seeds for it according to the wiki >Should be quick if your following Kumiromi Still gotta grind out Horome piety so I can get Muramasa before I finally settle on the twink for good. Once I do though I'm looking forward to the seeds I can get from Cute Fairy. You can still get seeds from him from feeding him even if he's not in your party right? I hope so because I'm not entirely willing to give up Black Cat + Golden Knight.
>>1360487 You doing a god circuit or just passing by a few? And yeah you don't need the fairy to be in your party but its gonna take a while for the darn thing to be starving otherwise. Meant to say cabocchi, and true don't think t hey had seeds. But breading for END in general for other plants would be better in the long run if you're END maxing.
>>1360289 Pretty sure increased nutrition is the main reason for kibble. More bang for your buck out of rare ingredients or whatever. Cheese also has a fixed PER penalty, so there are one or two food items out there that are actually have better stats if you make them into cheese. And it's another way to add item quality to a meal, since cheese counts as seasoning and elite monsters have high quality meat. Probably not important if you're growing the grains for that bread yourself, but it's an option for other dishes.
>>1360505 >You doing a god circuit or just passing by a few? Semi-circuit, I think Horome is gonna be my last one for the weapon to dual wield with Kumiromi scythe (and probably the pet too even thought I'm probably not gonna use it) >And yeah you don't need the fairy to be in your party but its gonna take a while for the darn thing to be starving otherwise. I'll keep that in mind, I just want a handful of rainbow fruit seeds and also I think seeds for that tree that adds to your electricity output. >But breading for END in general for other plants would be better in the long run if you're END maxing. Yeah I've got some wheat growing with END potency but it's taking a while to get it to 7 potency, although my seeds are at 6 now so it's only a matter of time/skill >>1360510 >Pretty sure increased nutrition is the main reason for kibble. More bang for your buck out of rare ingredients or whatever. Ah, so it does increase nutrition, okay >Cheese also has a fixed PER penalty, so there are one or two food items out there that are actually have better stats if you make them into cheese. Yeah I know that fished Turtles have -3 Per that can be improved to -2 if made into cheese
>>1360534 Do turtles still have the downside? i thought all fish now don't have that downside unless they start rotting
>>1360534 >Yeah I know that fished Turtles have -3 Per that can be improved to -2 if made into cheese You probably also already know that you can make cheese out of bonito flakes, but I'll mention it just in case. Wouldn't want you (or anyone reading this thread) only getting one piece of cheese when you could get 4-5, especially with the changes to fishing that let you get fish with item quality.
>>1360552 Always funny to see the magical ways we can turn fish flakes into blocks of cheese or wine
>>1360552 >Do turtles still have the downside? i thought all fish now don't have that downside unless they start rotting Oh yeah I guess according to the wiki they don't, I guess I haven't been paying attention since I've been turning the majority of them into wine for LOADSAMONEY >>1360552 >You probably also already know that you can make cheese out of bonito flakes Yeah but as I understand it that takes away from the nutrition value. Then again more food at once = more gains so it's tough to find the sweet spot.
does the statue in the village of atonement reset?
>>1361932 If the changelog is to be believed there's a section that specifies that God Statues don't reset when the monthly regen happens.
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>the best way to raise most skill levels is by getting gear with skill enchants from high level nefias or shop investment
>>1364948 isn't that because midgame and endgame isn't really implemented so everyone and their mom had to grossly overfarm gear from the only two places possible for it?
>>1368483 It's less that and more it's far easier to raise your fame than grind skills. Each skill level makes the next harder to get, while fame and thus dungeon loot has no such curve.
>>1364948 I mean leveling up lockpicking fucking sucks unless you want to have a room with 100+ practice chest and you go around in circles to unlock them for months.
>>1368703 Don't use practice chests. I have a junk shopkeeper and elaborate locks give a shit ton of xp.
>>1368703 >>1368828 yes i saw that too
Made a Wraith Farmer. May be better than Succ Farmer, but I kind of miss the copulation with stat potential increase and on demand bug mix for easy recruitment. Wraith also is more limited in terms of max nutrition, but definitely way tankier. What race/class combos do you guys think are the best?
4th god reward wen
>>1380806 this i have over 340 piety lulwy owes me rough, selfish, and antagonistic sex
>>1380806 Land feats, policies, or permanent faction buffs even when you're not worshiping them would be nice.
>>1380387 >on demand bug mix for easy recruitment Get jewelry to 13 by spamming carved bears and break engagement rings/amulets to learn the recipe. It takes gold bars but by the time you need to mass recruit it will most likely be for a blueberry farm.
All the good art is old.
>>1383466 I doubt many of the old artists still plays video games
>>1383167 I mean, I could just drop by Mysilia every now and then and feed the Farmers there some Rodwyn bread and get them to 75 after 3-4 loops. But engagement jewelry is a decent option too I suppose, still cheaper than grabbing people from the recruitment board.
I'm still pissed the player ghost feature got canned
>>1396625 You can blame GOMPS pulling off from steam for that. Noa was planning to use its steam integration to do the networking stuff but that fell through.
>>1399355 Why did GOMPS got abandoned anyways?
>>1399372 No idea. It was all set up with a steam page and everything, then got pulled.
>>1399379 That's a real shame, hope someone would make something similar
Is overpopulating a land plot with shopkeepers or something and playing music for them a viable strat? Thought about doing it in Vernis since it has awful land traits.
>>1401467 Music income is heavily nerfed for residents/livestock but it still can give you 5-10k once every couple of nights, and is still good for actually training music skill I don't think it's that worthwhile as a main moneymaker though
>>1401467 Better to just do party time quests.
>>1401467 At late game, like level 200+ nefia minimum, war quests powercreeps music quests by a mile. You get 20k+ oren per quests if you scale up the monsters as much as you can.
>>1402022 >>1403224 >>1403598 Not particularly worth it then huh. Guess I'll just stack Farmers there and grow pasture or cotton/honey.
Got a FFF plot for home base, a Beach plot with Demon Invocation for fishing, and abut to get a second FFF plot for blueberrymaxxing. Do I just keep getting more FFF plots after this? Can't think of any reason to get anything else since Forests have the highest pop cap and the extra fertility is good for slapping more passive farms on the side even if the purpose isn't explicitly for farming.
>>1405377 Aren't those randomized?
>>1405963 They are randomized, but you can see what feats a tile has if you enter it. They're also randomized in advance, so you could reload and get the same feats in the same order, though I think it does change every now and then.
How do you guys cover your character's weakness?
>>1409165 >his character has weaknesses But jokes aside, I let my companions do most of the work.
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Holy moly, autoact and the companion extension makes life so much better it's crazy. Can actually water and harvest large plantations wtihout it taking an entire day or more.
>>1411868 Does Autoact still use up stamina normally though.
>>1411868 What's the companion extension?
>>1412280 I think so yeah, I haven't noticed any difference. Companions use stamina too from what I can tell.
>>1412606 Auto Act Ally Expansion. Very convenient for speedng up farming and digging for example.
>>1412664 Interesting
Will we see her again in the story?
>>1414975 Yes. In the ending scene, an unborn Larnniere summons up the etherwind and completely wrecks the invading Euldernain airship fleet out for revenge. From that point on, the etherwind starts to blow. Fiama escorts the pregnant Friaune to Vindale where Larnniere is born. To view all story cutscenes, start the game in dev mode, change the language to Japanese, and use Fiama's diary.
Anyone tried out using the Faith Tax policy? Is the income worth it or is it peanuts like tourism?
>>1418317 Faith tax is so fucking worth it, pretty much my crutch early game against taxes.
>>1418814 Gonna try stacking some Eyth believers in my town and give it a whirl then.
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>>1419162 I don't know if Eyth believers counts but hey do give it a try
>>1419374 You wouldn't turn down Loytel would you?
>>1419734 Wiki says Eyth gives the highest income, with Ehekatl being the second best.
How do I make custom skins? I know the skins location, but don't know how to make one?
>>1421748 Do you want to make a static sprite or a custom PCC?
>>1422703 latter
>We have opened the form for submitting rumor dialogues for the Backer Wish NPCs. We also plan to post an announcement on Kickstarter later. >https://forms.gle/RvU72TgUWzSX2AqW7 >バッカーウィッシュNPCの噂会話文の投稿用フォームを公開しました。のちのち、キックスターターでもお知らせを掲載する予定です。 >https://forms.gle/RvU72TgUWzSX2AqW7 Oh boy I can't wait for the trannies to fill it with their fetish ideology and considering they are a protected subhuman class in the discord rules itself, I have no doubts about them not behaving.
>>1422834 why did my ID reset? works out in my favor anyway...
>>1415730 >>1414975 Are you a baka? Larniere has a porn mag and a nude painting in Elin, she's an elf so 30 years between Elin and Elona are nothing.
>>1422834 Hopefully Noa filters out the undesirables >>1422767 I haven't done it myself but from what I seen people usually used the blank body PCC and copy paste some shit into their designs.
So does anybody here have a good controller or at least keyboard-only setup for Elin? >>1265735 >Fuck I can't imagine playing mouse focused isometric game with a controller, why not just pull your keyboard and mouse to the couch? NTA but I just can't game with a mouse anymore due to hand pain. Not sure if it's RSI/arthritis but using a mouse just hurts and takes all the fun out a game for me now. >>1265393 >>1272039 Interesting
>>1423262 I wish there's a roguelike control setup akin to Elona but I don't think there's a good controller setup. Your best bet is probably to cry about it on the discord like I did.
>>1422839 And the Queen Sedona has a picture despite her maiden voyage being 30 years later. Just as people respawning and mutagenic wells aren't canon, anon, so aren't little Easter eggs. All the story cutscenes are there in Japanese. Use "-dev" in the steam runtime options to start the game in dev mode, then read the copy of Fiama's diary on the dev test character.
ehkatl spit buffs
>>1423262 Have you tried using a vertical mouse? Think I've heard people say that those don't strain the wrist as much.
>>1424047 I have been using a vertical mouse for all my gaming years but I still dont want to fucking click incessantly like its a point and click adventure. Keyboard controls of elona were comfy as fuck
>>1422834 What are you fucking on about? you do understand that's for the backers who paid for NPCs to add dialog, not for you retards to try and add shit.
>>1427228 Most of the backers are trannies if you could not fucking tell, the head admin himself is one of those.
>>1427348 learn something new about myself every day I guess when do I get my tits in?
>>1422882 Thanks! Anyway, are there little girls around? I can't find them.
>>1428600 What do you mean?
>>1428600 If you're asking about starter pet little girls there are some in Derphy where the slave trader is.
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>>1419734 >>1420936 Got around 5500 oren on the first month with 10 or so Eyth residents. Not a lot, but could snowball over time as it levels and with more believers. Will likely try adding Wealth Tax on top of it since I got quite a few Smoking residents for it, though I'm not sure if doing this in my main base is a good idea, there are more useful hoobbies to choose from and I will also be able to craft generators soon anyway. In comparison, my blueberry farm nets me around 300k from a manual harvest, and I haven't even maxed it out on fertility yet. Though granted this isn't entirely passive like taxes. Maybe a dedicated tax plot is the way to go, like a Forest plot with 28 wealthy Eyth residents for both Faith and Wealth tax, and some passive farming on top of it. A tree farm on the side could be nice since trees barely use any fertility. Then I could ditch all tax policies in my main base and focus on vendor/visitor policies instead.
>>1429790 >>1429857 There's a item where I capture one. Got this from the Little Gardens and I wonder.
>>1431979 Ah, you need to defeat Big Daddies for those.
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>>1431979 Be careful not to confuse little girls and Little Sisters. Big difference.
>get bahamut to drop a fertilized egg >it casts meteor and cooks it fuck you too asshole
Noa should just make seeds level up once for every 10 farming levels instead of this dumb 10 level increment bloat, there's literally no point in having all these extra seed levels.
>>1443295 Yeah it's also funny how the actual stat level ups are random, so you can have two identical +12 crops but one is quality 8 and the other is quality 9, or one has 18 nutrition and the other has 19. And of course they and their seeds don't stack fucking epic
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>>1444071 >Seeds harvested outside player bases or tents no longer level up (to avoid splitting stacks). So stack bloat is a known issue, but the most obvious qol improvement, namely trimming down pointless seed levels, is still not being implemented.
What's a good weapon for fox wife?
>>1464535 why, my peanus weanus of course!
So is a blueberry farm basically the endgame in terms of money making? I'm getting around 500k oren every harvest with +2 soil farmers. A King's Bed will get them to +3 or +4 I'm assuming, and I still haven't maxed out the base Soil skill. Can probably push 1 mil per manual harvest once everything is set up.
>>1466114 Yes, but Noa's planning to 'balance' very soon, maybe with some supply-demand approximation to punish monocrop spam a bit. I doubt the nerfs will be enough however, even making 100k passive instead of 500k still kinda solves the entire tax and economy thing. And nothing's stopping you from making a second plantation
>>1469138 That's fair enough I suppose, wonder how he will implement the nerf exactly though. Also, I've been fishing in Port Kapul earlier in my current run and got a couple God statues there, and some high level fish. In fact I even saw the fishermen there fish up statues. But I haven't gotten a single one in my Demon Invocation Beach for some reason, and not a single fish above one star level. Does anyone know what the danger level is supposed to be to start getting good items? PK must have a fairly high default content level or something I'm assuming.
>>1471204 Just checked the wiki and apparently danger level does nothing for fishing on an owned plot, so it seems like Demon Invocation affects content level directly if I'm understanding things right. Guess I just need to wait for it to level up more then.
Who voiced the English version of the Steam trailer?
>>1535330 Isn't it text to speech?
So, just learned about Elan and I'm interested in doing lots of mad doctor experiments. Can you make manly characters with the few sprites that exist? Where's the best place for mods? that aren't just porn?
>>1621750 The workshop have most of the mods I think
>>1621771 I see. I find the chinese alchemy mod interesting, but it's only for levelling up hard. Any option to steal skills or implant upgraded organs in yourself?


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