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LISA Thread Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 22:52:36 Id: 2f3c96 No. 1183215
Post and discuss all things LISA.
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>>1183215 Still waiting for The Pointless (update) and The Hopeless.
>>1183534 Same here. I’m looking forward to a few others too. Last I heard, Vegaful got an update last year, Ungrateful is still getting updates regularly, and Undone’s lead dev is on hiatus. I’m also looking forward to Fool, Origin, Unbreakable, Timeless, and Ace of Hearts.
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>>1183534 I'm more waiting for a fangame to replace it in terms of popularity Or for someone to finish lisa the undone
There’s apparently a LISA gamejam that ends next month, and Ed is taking this opportunity to continue slacking off, since he’s one of the judges.
>>1184496 Even if MU released, pointless will never be the same as it was originally planned. Not looking forward to it. Either way, what happened to that Growing Pains fangame?
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He didn't deserve it bros...
>>1184545 Hasn’t been any updates on it in 2 years.
>>1184574 He just wanted to hang with his friends
>>1184574 >>1184655 The suffering is at least partially deserved. Remember that he and his friends were after Buddy, and were going to try and rape her. They only found Five by complete accident.
>>1184869 Sorry, I can’t read. Should I just delete this thread and repost on /vb/ or repost it here with the old /ltg/ OP?
>>1185208 This thread is fine, you should just try harder next time to make a good OP. LISA threads are welcome on 8/v/ and the dev even did an AMA on old 8chan on our board.
Lisa the pointless ismy favourite genre of rpg.
>>1186746 Ok, noted. I actually think I remember Austin coming here too.
Anaconda's joy status sprite is fucking awesome, i hate how underwhelming willy knight is as a companion he was so cute but the third fold content at least spices things up, the peaceful tribesmen as companions are op and kinda too edy cool for my taste, hugos quest is a waste of time its not worth it being locked out of lester's store but useful if you just want to get some equipment like fringe boy's chair for willy. I use joy because i dont give a fuck Lisa the painful choices, not a single limb lost but kept terry cuz it was too early for me to care about losing my items and shit, the desolate expanse mod for painful is very pretty and nice. The exclusive companions of the ultimate modpack are neat but the balance is ass, the nerds are annoying shits with corny sprites i hate them to infinity, them being relegated to filler losers in the ultimate fix is a saving grace of that... unique mod
>>1187464 I think keeping the arms wound matter more if you could actually still use the Armstrong Style at the end.
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What are your favorite fangames and mods, and why?
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https://youtu.be/3rXV6snFTFo https://youtu.be/jY4nFThe1Dk This would've killed a victorian era Lisa fan.
>>1210461 Dire a best.
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Can someone explain to me the autistic fan-game scene these games have? I understand wanting to ape and mod the game itself but LISA is not the most OC friendly setting nor does it seem to inspire world-building when the emotional core and tragedy is deeply dependent on the specific circumstances of Brad. I understand there being a few but there's an entire scene of these things and some formed entire subcommunities/fangame scenes of their own.
My story concept for a LISA game is to introduce a progressive high-tech utopian society which, having cast off the burden of women, were able to build a near-perfect utopian mix of socialism for the lower class and enlightened libertarianism for the upper class. The smart men can climb into the upper class while the less intelligent stay comfortable and well taken care of in their collectives. The younger generation which grew up not really knowing women were taught that t=females were a burden that allowed them to flourish only after they were removed; sexuality is an animal impulse that should be rejected / suppressed as much as possible. No one ever talks about their desires in polite society and you’re supposed to pretend that it doesn’t exist. When a girl is suddenly introduced to these men for the first time in adult memory — how do they deal with it? Does their repressed lust explode and turn them immediately into simps and cavemen? Do they sink immediately into warfare over her, tossing out their enlightened society in an instant?
Scholars of the Wilbur Sin is one of the best games I have played. But obviously wouldn't be the same without playing pointless first.
>>1213187 Most of the autism died with failed fan-games past 2016, i see that most f the appeal was how people got obsessed by the wacky characters and humor, so they wanted to make their own or add something to such unsatisfactory ending. Most fan games feels like filler, I only enjoyed Hopeful and Pointless since they try to do something new and present a different perspective. >LISA is not the most OC friendly setting You are wrong, you can make characters out of anything in LISA since their combat skills will be defined out of their backstory or past profession, like similar to a zombie apocalypse >>1212911 gooner bait game
>>1213187 The story of the modding scene of lisa the pointless would make for a long ass wall of text, so I'll tell you the accurate and short version, Pointless stole the spotlight and left people hungry for more, done, now I'll write the difference among the major pointless mods Scholar of the Wilbur Sin was the first big expansion. It added two companions, tons of maps and NPCs, and a villain route. Wilbur Sin himself once a nobody, becomes a brutal boss and is implied to have started the Infinity franchise spread in downtown Olathe. Infinity Unfolds doesn’t add new areas it fills existing ones even more. If an NPC couldn’t be fought before, now they probably can, lotsa items and filler. The Ultimate Modpack compiles every serious Pointless mod into one messy but ambitious package. Balance is ass and currently the devs took down the official download option, but someone re uploaded, the link is on the comments of the mod page. Notably, it includes original content exclusive to the pack. Most of the new content is Agony Mode only, which blocks save scumming, so managing crows is key, balance is ass it spams the mid game with tons of hard battles, expect the average playthrough to be over 24 hours not counting resets. The Ultimate Fix was made by a frustrated dev who hated missing content due to time progression triggers. He rebalanced all companions with a shared skill list, removed some extra low effort routes to focus on Alex, mocked the original modpack with a npc, and removed the party size limit. Everyone can now revive KO characters, so unless your a bad player soft locking only happens with true death, more status effect on top of editing the entire game, while the dev is cocky of it's version truth is it's actually properly balanced and it's very fun
Supposedly this year the monster update for pointless TOTALLY releases this year, the biggest teaser so far is mutant Alex, who's sprite is actually in the game files but is more like a concept. Hoho now taking joy makes Alex effort futile because he doesn't even live for the sequel he just dies in the first chapter
Cool
>>1183215 Oh yeah I recommend lisa the undone https://youtu.be/Kmnd2nqIixo >Fan sequel to Joyful >Buddy retconned to being cute and nice somewhat >Depending of your play style you increase buddy's hidden traits >No waiting for sequels it's just this one off fan game >You can treat Rando like shit and he will go with you all the way because of sunk cost fallacy and has a hateful speech at the end of the game Fun game, max buddy's hatred for fun
>>1218195 >Buddy retconned to being cute and nice somewhat Dropped. Buddy not being a terrible person because of her upbringing is tremendously OOC. You might as well just make a Disco Elysium: The Painful fangame at this point, because that’s what this really is. >No waiting for sequels it's just this one off fan game Wrong. There’s a sequel planned, and parts for all of the Warlords.
Where would you want to live in Olathe?
Why do people still draw Buddy cute or beautiful when the dev already said she's a 4/10?
>>1218713 I choose to ignore Austin because she looks cute in game.
I haven't played Lisa since I beat it 6 months after joyful came out. Never tried a fangame as there weren't that many until years later. Which is the first that someone should start no matter what?
>>1218713 >Why do people still draw Buddy cute or beautiful when the dev already said she's a 4/10? Didn't he also say that all the white men should feel guilty or something? Why would I trust him about anything?
>>1218712 for me? any town in timeless such a nice vibe in that game
>>1222270 Play lisa the pointless Then play Lisa the pointless scholar of the wilbur sin Then play Lisa the pointless scholar of the wilbur sin infinity unfolds Afterwards you may play Lisa the pointless ultimate mod pack.
Are you supposed to play the others game before painful? The other characters that live with the protagonist and the girl are present so briefly that I forgot about them almost immediately and was kind of lost though the plot
>>1224537 Lisa the painful had a prequel named Lisa: The First. It's basically a yume nikki fan game. You don't have to play it.
>>1222270 Hopeful Pointless Timeless Unbreakable Vegaful
>>1224651 Are any of those finished? I think I played Pointless at some point but didn't bother reaching the end because I knew it wasn't complete.
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>>1224686 Hopeful is finished. Vegaful just got an update last year. Timeless Part 2 is in production.
>>1218712 The Lisa setting plus fan games lore would make for a oddly detailed hearts of iron mod
>>1226111 that could be kino. one of hoi4s most popular mods is OWB a fallout mod so a post-apocalyptic setting could work
DING DING DING DING Dev time 2 years https://gamejolt.com/games/Woes/795004 Pointless slop bros.... We feast again
>>1234135 Keep the Infinityslop coming.
>>1222270 Painful, unless you want prequel knowledge.
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>>1234135 Alright played it for a bit. >The devs art style is more in line with the og trilogy games >He remade stuff from other mods but made it different, like VERY derivative content from scholar of the wilbur sin, but DIFFERENT therefore it justifies playing this game all over again >New gags and writing resembles more the og trilogy than pointless slop gore fest mayhem. Shout out to the charm update mod, in case you want to play lisa the pointless with an art style resembling that of Austin Jorgensen
>>1236759 >>1234135 Lisa the joyful if it was good.
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>>1234135 Finally, another reason to see The Infinity Franchise again.
>>1241793 That's actually the Fernandez lardy hardy whatever Mexican guy that the hair people mistook for buddy, not buddy herself. Check mate atheist
>>1241826 Oh yeah, forgot about that part.
Nowhere to go but towards Arnold
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>>1241840 On the other hand, Dingaling did say Buddy has Yado’s nose.
>>1183215 https://gamejolt.com/games/buzzorevamp/665186 Buzzo fight enhanced >What is this Brad is so angry he is throwing his party members to the buzzo meat grinder for the sake of killing Buzzo early >So Brad kills buzzo in this mod? Ahhh nah, if you win he asks Yado for a favour and toots his trumped to save Buzzo >Is it cringe? No, dialogue is fine >Appeal? Cathartic also Buddy is around taking collateral damage like a champ, I haven't even checked if Brad or his party can kill her by accident, but it's probably a game over. Also in battle you can swap to every single party member pretty cool, one dies in comes the other one
As of today, Painful and Joyful DE now have official mobile ports.
>>1246620 Good for supporting official releases, but joiplay already lets u play rpg maker games on mobile (plus ren'py WEG shit)
>>1246749 Yeah, but this comes withe the Definitive Edition content, since it’s on Unity instead of RPG Maker.
https://kallen-mt.itch.io/hopeful-in-joyful The hopeful gang in lisa the joyful, worth playing https://youtu.be/OJWkq7-WuUo
Anyone playing the woe expansion, do you know where the extra area is in the downtown?
>>1254551 I'm still in garbage island because i'm a min maxer, but as long as you've played at least sotws, its incredible obvious whats new, like one of the earliest new zones in garbage island is a reference to painful, and a gag middle finger that triggers a party wipe battle because fuck you lol. Point is nah i'm not there yet but it can't be that hard fo recognize whats new
>>1254599 You'll love the second fold.
>>1255523 In my experience, ever since the ultimate modpack new content is locked behind hard mode, like notorious amounts of content. So like, while save scumming is never boring, if your not playing on anguish mode or whatever they called it here, you might want to consider replaying on that difficulty
Curious oddity trivia number 88888# After you beat Floyd atop the sweet breeze hotel, if you interact with his body a new boss battle kickstarts, and killjoy, the scary black addict from garbage island appears, both Floyd and killjoy infinitized, given how mods largely abandon the original vision of the og pointless, it can be assumed their spirit lives in infinivity hive mind, and your infact fighting their souls. Bonus boss battles like this are why the ultimate modpack's balance is ass, like "DOOD just play perfect lol, just restart the battle till you got the best outcome lol" Way too many super bosses that barely are worth fighting
Badass edit that I can't remember if it was added on infinity unfolds or the UM. On the third fold route, in last autumn, when the pink rmask rapist starts creeping on Alex, Alex interrupts his speech by punching him in the stomach. Also regarding his third fold skills, it makes their names are kinda silly, since presumably they where made up to accommodate Alex new all out fighting style, the former velvet warrior that does unironic goat kicks and flying guillotine kicks. Stupid but funny. Gouging Petunia! Also if you pay attention to Alex's sprite his teeth are indeed ruined, so the description of his cannibal bite attack is not being unnecessarily visceral, Alex's teeth are indeed ugly
Finished the woe mod. It was charming but, giving ways to heal without consuming items was very overpowered. All of these healers also had sp recovering moves, so there was no true resource loss. As well, you could tell that the new party members were modded in. For example, balloon pants still uses his line about taking care of Alex and Joel. Over all I liked it, especially the cart racing segment.
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Underrated attack animation, the palm laser spam. That cobra wrestler that turns cannibal when he joins the infinity franchise, the avatar of hatred, and third fold Alex and his avatar of failure (?)use it. Pretty sweet. The avatar of hatred the velvet fu master can do a very assy version of the attack, When the avatar of failure gets ready to unleash it he becomes inmune to basic attacks, a fact ive forgotten so many times. El kobra wrestler inflicts burn despite his theme, wich made me realize the poison inmune skin bandages are fucking ass. I dont remember where exactly third fold alex uses it, i think its in the alex beats hugo scenario, where he walks all the way to the city and he beats the background characters in the playable end credits
https://youtu.be/Q30FNBcNqt0 A slowed down version of this song is used for the third fold avatar battle. The actual context for this song is to be used in the monster update for the new opening, but odds are a remix will be used all around the game because thats just what this games do >4 years ago One sprite per day, MU this year
When beating lisa the pointless the end credits have at the end the words kill all over the screen, most mods never got rid of this even when said mods dumped the fact this is a part one of a trilogy and added finality to their take on pointless. The implication is, Alex reached the first fold while passing through downtown olathe, he got spooked of it all and got the hell outta there. Either he or both alex and joel got corrupted by the infinity franchise, and the second fold and third fold woulve been intended for part 2. That is unless the foreshadowing is dropped
Why is Joyful so shit compared to the base game?
>>1269350 I dunno
>>1269350 Kickstarter stretch goal that wanted to "explain" the deep lore of Lisa.
Look at the little scringly dingly
Anaconda Virtue as a companion has a significant amount of dialogue and reactions to all sort of canon and modded content perhaps the most out of every companion >>1241596 It could be said he even hijacks any sort of chemistry between Alex and Joel. In the third fold he confesses he only stuck around because pushing the buttons of Alex made it worthwhile and now he's just another jersey head it's not fun anymore, there's nothing left to corrupt, and points out his betrayal was pretty obvious but they should get it done already, he battles Alex and dies In any other route predictable he doesn't remain loyal. for all the content he has, his friendship was.... Pointless.
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Do you guys remember lee the painful? I remember reading about it on that fan game wiki page. Imagine being the last man in a world of women.
>>1271852 I remember it. Interesting concept, but I feel like not enough was being done with it to make it stand out. It was just Painful with tits, and tranny Buzzo, instead of actually showing what it would be like for there to be a world with only one boy left alive.
>>1272384 Thinking about it more... wouldn't the entire story change if you change the sexes? Men and women aren't the same, so Bradette's(?) life would be radically different. I can't really imagine a mother raping her child like marty does with lisa. Unless you want to add in weird child grooming scenes. I'm pretty sure the female Brad wouldn't even know the armstrong style.
>>1271852 What's the apocalyptic part of having no sexual competition?
>>1274043 Women terrify me.
>>1273990 >I can't really imagine a mother raping her child like marty does with lisa. It's a lot more common than you think. >Thinking about it more... wouldn't the entire story change if you change the sexes? Y: The Last Man had almost the same background story as LISA, but with the sexes reversed, to the point that I think dingaling got inspired by it. In LISA humanity is fucked even with Buddy's existence. If the sexes were reversed, humanity would have a chance, but would still face some genetic problems. I don't see why it wouldn't be realistic for women to learn martial arts.
>>1274642 I just got reminded of Dungeon Meshi and how the author said the lives of the characters would be radically different if their sex was reversed. Also, a female brad might learn martial arts. But martial arts, and combat in general aren't something you'd expect from a woman. But at this point I'm just speculating on something that I have no clue about.
>>1274642 I think he did say something about being inspired by Y: The Last Man before. Maybe on the old Steam forums.
>>1273990 I’ve Barb and Bree used for FemBrad.
Here’s an idea: What if it was BRAD: The Painful, and Lisa was taking care of the last boy in Olathe?
>>1275331 Pretty sure that was the original kickstarter story, funnily enough
>>1276797 I think there was at least one fanfic with that premise too.
"The GAME might die ONE day, but not today!" (It arguably already died) Shef cute
Pointless getting an officially endorsed Steam release isn’t out of the question.
>>1288345 I can't wait to play pointless chapter 2 when I become 30 years old.
>>1289510 >he’s not 30 already
>>1296301 I was 11 when pointless released....
>>1288345 I can't wait to be immensely dissappointed
Brad x Lisa
Boys!
>>1316336 Would Bradette
>>1327419 Seems like every single indie game releases these nowadays, even if it doesn't fit the character or theme
>>1336553 I like that Brad’s arms are detachable.
Just got that Decade of Joy bundle. The cards are pretty nice.
Dingaling has officially confirmed that he’s back to working games again, so we might actually get to play Ninja Tears one day.
Is there any way to get all of the new content while keeping things like that one ranger's monkey sound effect?
>>1346016 I don’t think so. You’d have to mod it back in.
>>1346293 Lisa: The Changeless sounds like a pretty good title for such a mod. Too bad I don't know how to do it.
>>1344182 AMA THREAD WHEN DINGALING? I BET YOUR GAY ASS IS LURKING RIGHT THIS MOMENT
>>1346569 Didn't Dingaling turn into a Leftist? I don't think he'd do an AMA here, but it'd be neat if he did. Someone could ask, and the worst he could do is publicly say no.
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>>1346595 He seems to have gotten a bit better mentally.
>>1346595 He did an AMA on 8chan a long time ago.


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