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Anonymous 04/21/2025 (Mon) 09:39:06 Id: 7e9f0f No. 1189738
This is one of the worst games I've ever finished. >The controls were horrible >The strength progression was way too easy to cheese >Money and 99% of items became worthless the second I realized I could just beat up merchants for all of their stock >NPC AI was retarded in the original meaning of the word >The game doesn't let you explore on your own—everything is locked behind a quest >It had the most annoying fetch quests that led you going back to the same places over and over again, etc. etc. The story was okay and I appreciated the world they crafted, which is why I finished it, but it had an unsatisfying ending. Why is this praised as a masterpiece?
>>1189738 congrats on finishing your first video game
For Gomez
>Why is this praised as a masterpiece? Eastern Euros
Poles and germans
>>1189738 >The controls were horrible they are completely fine and can even be considered superior to our current standard control scheme since the game can be played entirely with just one hand on the keyboard >The strength progression was way too easy to cheese >Money and 99% of items became worthless the second I realized I could just beat up merchants for all of their stock don't intentionally cheese the game and then complain that it feels like ass to play >NPC AI was retarded in the original meaning of the word In what way? To me it had always been fascinating that they had a daily routine and reacted to player inputs like rushing over to you to tell you to fuck off when you enter their house, it took 5 years until Oblivion to recreate these mechanics and they still ended up not being nearly as immersive as in Gothic the combat AI isn't perfect but it can still pose some challenge to the player and they don't bug out all that often >The game doesn't let you explore on your own—everything is locked behind a quest That is a complete lie, you are free to explore almost the entire world right from the start, what is keeping you away from exploring the areas of the map before the developers intend you to are stronger enemies, that's a fairly standard practice for most RPGs and it works quite well in this case, of course some areas of the map are inaccesible until you get a prerequisite quest for them, but again that's not exactly exlusive to Gothic >It had the most annoying fetch quests that led you going back to the same places over and over again, etc. etc. can't deny that, but there are plenty of other positive things to be said about the game that vastly outweight it's negatives
>>1189738 >The controls were horrible they are completely fine and can even be considered superior to our current standard control scheme since the game can be played entirely with just one hand on the keyboard >The strength progression was way too easy to cheese >Money and 99% of items became worthless the second I realized I could just beat up merchants for all of their stock don't intentionally cheese the game and then complain that it feels like ass to play >NPC AI was retarded in the original meaning of the word In what way? To me it had always been fascinating that they had a daily routine and reacted to player inputs like rushing over to you to tell you to fuck off when you enter their house, it took 5 years until Oblivion to recreate these mechanics and they still ended up not being nearly as immersive as in Gothic the combat AI isn't perfect but it can still pose some challenge to the player and they don't bug out all that often >The game doesn't let you explore on your own—everything is locked behind a quest That is a complete lie, you are free to explore almost the entire world right from the start, what is keeping you away from exploring the areas of the map before the developers intend you to are stronger enemies, that's a fairly standard practice for most RPGs and it works quite well in this case, of course some areas of the map are inaccesible until you get a prerequisite quest for them, but again that's not exactly exlusive to Gothic >It had the most annoying fetch quests that led you going back to the same places over and over again, etc. etc. can't deny that, but there are plenty of other positive things to be said about the game that vastly outweight it's negatives
>>1189738 >wow this old game plays like an old game
>>1189738 You're an absolutely shit eating faggot.
>>1203107 It's 2001, not that old you zoomer. The entire 90s were filled with games much better than this piece of crap.
>>1205303 name one
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Don't care, Gothic 2 was better.
>>1189738 I purchased Gothic 2 to play Archolos. I just reached the first village. Npc dialogue and polish VA are pretty impressive. Seems like a well thought out story. I'll miss all references to the main games though, I haven't played those https://store.steampowered.com/app/1467450/The_Chronicles_Of_Myrtana_Archolos/
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This is one of the best games I've ever finished. >The controls were cool and unique. >The strength progression was satisfying, you go from being a useless bitch to an unstoppable killing machine. >Money and 99% of items remained valuable after I realized I could just beat up merchants for all of their stock. >NPC AI was brilliant in every meaning of the word. >The game lets you explore on your own—nothing is locked behind a quest. >It had cool quests that led you going to different locations all over the world every time. Off topic but I'm OP's brother and he is balding, fuck ugly and has a 3 inch penis so please be nice to him, lord knows life hasn't.
>>1195042 Holy shit I would do unspeakable things to get your last image in 1920x1080 for a wallpaper
>>1206817 gta 3 came out in the same year
>>1216893 >The strength progression was satisfying, you go from being a useless bitch to an unstoppable killing machine. what are you, 14?
>>1221097 yea, 14 inches deep in your mom bitch
>>1189738 the most brightest bethesda fan
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it's one of the greatest games ever
>>1189738 >OP got filtered by a nearly 2 amd half decade old game. You are underage
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>>1189738 I wish I could play it for the first time again, what a magical journey
>>1189738 >Why is this praised as a masterpiece? I thought most people agreed the sequel is better.
>>1229818 >I-it's bad because it's old, u-ur just underage By 2001 third person hack n slash games were nothing new. Gothic went above and beyond to make the worst control scheme possible.
>>1189738 I'm sorry you're brown.
>>1248108 gothic is not a third person hack n slash game you retarded faggot
The only Piranha Bytes game I ever played was Gothic 3 and it was such a massive turd that I never wanted to touch anything by this developer ever again. Whenever I read criticisms of their other titles I am only reminded what I hated about Gothic 3. >>1189738 A lot things listed here apply.
>>1285691 Gothic 3 was a rushed, unfinished, buggy mess of a game, while Gothic 1 and 2, are just janky.
>>1231365 if you haven't played it yet, I highly recommend the Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos mod that's pretty much the only game that gave me the same feeling I had when I played Gothic for the first time as a kid, an absolute masterpiece of an RPG that I might dare to say could be better than even G2: NOTR
>>1189738 I have a feeling that most people say this because they hate Bethesda despite them doing a much better job at an open world fantasy rpg than nearly anyone else and yes, I do consider Skyrim among that bunch even though it was the worst Elder Scrolls game I played. I find it frankly astounding that the only competition tes has is The Witcher 3 when that game is even less of an rpg than fucking Skyrim, it does however have a lot more player choices and consequences but without that The Witcher 3 would be considered middling at best
>>1347781 Gothic is great and OP is a filtered vuckchanner, fuckoff gachanigger
>>1347794 You're just mad that I got you with a gotcha moment. The fact that people constantly bitch about Bethesda (up to Skyrim) and not talking about any other open world fantasy rpgs is proof they were doing something right
>>1229558 That's probably the most woke anime up to that point, with its commie propaganda, and its anti loli stance. Absolute trash and the only reason why anyone liked it was for its shock value and the fact it pandered to the west. Your opinion is discarded
this shit is only praised by krauts and poles for different reasons krauts because it's a kraut game poles because it has an all-star dub and cussing
>>1347804 I dunno what part of having shit taste is supposed to be a gotcha, but Skyrim has to be the most brainless 3D game I've ever played. If you think being accessible is a sign of quality, then you'll find Cookie Clicker more to your taste.
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>faggots still butthurt about gothic Gothic keeps on winning.
>>1348125 >If you think being accessible is a sign of quality, then you'll find Cookie Clicker more to your taste. If you think Skyrim is as accessible as Cookie Clicker you're a retard. While Skyrim is an accessible rpg, it still excels at being an adventure game better than any other open world fantasy rpg not made by Bethesda. The only proof I need is that no one talks about any other games in this genre nearly as much on imageboards, never mind the normalfag spaces of the internet
>>1348271 >things that never happened.txt
>>1348133 yeah we're not blinded by nostalgia, your game is shit michał
>>1348358 I didn't play the game when I was a child, but just because you got so easilly filtered by a 20 year old game is funny.
I understand that Germans and Poles hold Gothic as some sacrosanct thing to worship and adore, but it was an interesting but flawed game in a time where interesting but flawed games were standard. Even shit like Morrowind had ways of circumventing how bad the gameplay was. Maybe Piranhabytes are the Obsidian of Europe: they never made any genuinely good games, but holy shit the fanboys will shriek endlessly if you point it out.
>>1348435 >interesting but flawed games were standard. Now it's just bad games :^)
>>1348417 kneejerk "filtered" response to any criticism proves otherwise, michał
>>1348471 What were you beaten in school by a Michael so you project your emotions on me. Whatever just git gud or stop whining.
>>1348291 It is happening as we speak lol. Skyrim is frequently posted in tes general
>project while accusing someone of projecting did I strike a nerve, polack? your beloved game is still shit, btw
>>1348485 Ok and?
>>1348488 Lmao you are clown. You get so much mad at a game. Stop whining little boy.
>you are clown >so much mad lmao the ESL spilled out, keep seething commie fag
>>1348492 Name a game in the same genre that does the adventure aspect better than Skyrim outside of other games made by bethesda
>>1348501 KCD. >>1348500 Ok and so what that I'm ESL? Also >seething commie fag Projecting
>>1348513 >KCD That's not a fantasy rpg lmao
>>1348516 Diablo II then, and also fantasy rpg isn't a genre. Arpg is a skyrims genre not fantasy rpg.
>>1348522 >Diablo II Diablo II isn't open world. An action rpg is still an rpg even if it doesn't have as much depth as the garbage that is dnd. I'd take arpgs like FNV over tru rpgs any day
>>1348524 >open world But you just said it's a fantasy rpg and you said genre not genres. So which genre do you mean, because in every single one there is a better game >rest You really just suck at games.
>>1348531 >So which genre do you mean, because in every single one there is a better game Ok let me explain it to you for your monkey brain: there is no open world, first person, rpg, and fantasy game better than Skyrim other than games made by bethesda. The whole point of a first person camera is for the immersion of the experience and there is far more build variety in Skyrim than there is in Diablo, emphasizing player freedom
>>1348540 Who said you should buy it?
>>1348538 Yet skyrim is mediocre at best. I guess games with skyrims genres just suck. Also not buy skyrim again todd stop trying.
>>1348543 Shut the fuck up todd
>>1348545 Who said you should buy it? You still can't name a game lol. Your only chance now is for Tainted Grail to be better than it when it comes out
>>1348560 leave the poor gothicfag alone
>>1348560 Just because you overtly specify what you want doesn't mean there are better games. You literally just said "NUH-NUH" KCD is better then skyrim in every way. >>1348563 Says the guy who got mad at a 20 year old game like a tranny when play gta:sa.
i take that back, he's beyond saving, euthanize him
>>1348582 Your mom should be euthanized
>>1348627 Your mom should have been euthanized before you were born to spare us from listening to your christcuckoldry
>>1348641 >chirstcuckoldry Why are you projecting that on me?
>>1348652 Your the one who brought up a christcuck game when discussing fantasy rpgs, not me. The absolute state of KCD2 is proof of how cucked christianity is
>>1348470 That doesn't make it retroactively good :^) Being shot today doesn't make being punched yesterday any better.
>>1348655 >game made by the most atheist country in europe. Ok bro. >The absolute state of KCD2 is proof of how cucked christianity is Still better then Skyrim. Oh and you know skyrim has gay marriage right?
>>1348741 Deoends ok the person.
>>1349097 >Ok bro. Christians bought the game and it has overwhelmingly positive reviews on steam. >Still better then Skyrim. It's not lol. It's a humiliation ritual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIXIsJqFZQ&t=3s >Oh and you know skyrim has gay marriage right? You're assuming that's why I'm referring to it as "cucked" lol. That shit doesn't bother me one bit, it's player choice and it's not forced down your throat either.
>>1349130 >posts Eceleb Lmao Lol Go back to Xitter.
>>1349171 <the bagel cries out as he strikes you lmao
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>>1348641 >shit how can I recover from this >uhhhh christcuck!
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>>1351334 There's nothing to recover from christcuck lol
Amazed this thread hasn't been locked honestly
>>1348741 When the punch just leaves a bruise while being shot has your brain splattered over the pavement i would argue that the being punched was a more positive experience. I would argue that the woke pronoun, bluehaired safe unoptimized trannygames which get the okay from moneygrubbing publishers whom sold their soul to the dark lord and harvest all the data is much worse than clunky controls.
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>>1353211 Go back to cuckchan
>>1189738 I never really got the appeal of this game either. Always seemed like one of those C tier games at best. So not even a B tier or AA sort of game that might end up really good with lots of fans. Something below that. My guess is it had a whole heep of astroturfing pushing it like its some sort of all time classic. The fact that its wiki article even says this really says it all. >In 2022, it has been described as „probably the most known Eurojank title“.
Gothic a shit
Skyrim a shit.
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>>1354144 Still better than Gothic lol
>>1354182 >t. Never played video games
>>1354225 Oh really? What game is this from then?
>>1354269 Looks like STALKER or Resistance from the PS3 based on the piss filter.
>>1354271 Wrong
>>1354272 Call of Duty?
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>>1189738 People like me played it when we were very young, OP. Controls were par for the course, I wasn't thinking about cheesing anything, I simply got immersed into the world and got fucked repeatedly by scavengers. The world as it was felt extremely large and I got lost repeatedly. I didn't realize "fetch quests" were tricks to make the game feel longer, I was doing my part to save... Eastern Europe or whatever that was. The story felt original The art and the graphics were marvelous The combat was challenging and gritty The variety of monsters and NPCs was amazing for its time. I'm not going to contest any of what you said. This is an honest attempt to answer your question as to why it received so much praise.
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>>1354412 You btw
>>1354437 (You)
>>1354269 That's the Stoner from Carl on Duty: Black Cops
>>1356776 Correct. I cannot believe someone here thought it was the first carl on duty
>>1356893 *cawl of boobies: nigga cops
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aaww shit


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