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Anonymous 04/23/2025 (Wed) 16:12:16 Id: ea6bdd No. 1227506
Ghost in the Shell director Mamoru Oshii says political correctness has made western games ‘terrible’. >Oshii: Political correctness started from the idea of giving legitimacy to the socially weak. There is nothing wrong with that. In a mature society, it is a natural responsibility. However, the problem is that it has taken that as its starting point and made the socially weak into the strong. >Oshii: They were given priority in getting into school, and priority in finding a job. What’s more, the companies that advised them charged them ridiculous amounts in consulting fees. Game companies ask for hundreds of millions of yen from them. >Oshii: Basically, it’s based on admiration! If you deny admiration, entertainment loses its reason for existence as entertainment. In the past, even if you said “beautiful” people would say it was discriminatory. Western games are really terrible
He's 100% correct. It's nice to see at least some of these Japanese creatives understand that this garbage has completely ruined multiple entertainment industries in the western world. Now if only they could break away from that influence on their own and go back to making the stuff everyone knows they want.
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My wife
why are the japanese such chuds?
Things where allowed to appeal to specific people and ONLY that specific group, and that was ok, now everything has to be for everyone and its been watered down into complete, worthless trash. The internet doesn't allow things to exist in a bubble anymore, so someone might wanna release some game with hot women, and they will instantly come under attack by retards and faggots. The way he put is is great, the weak are now the strong, and they're just bullies now.
He's right. They STILL flip out about GamerGate because that was the first time there was a widespread conscious awareness spread that SAW the subversive mafia.
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No, it's lack of creativity due to perceived financial risk for trying "new things" with challenging politics and grit.
>>1228713 It's both. Corpos are scared of risk while western creatives are obsessed with political correctness, as are many corpos worldwide.
>>1228713 They literally get paid to push troonshit, why would they try something new
>>1227506 That translation's a little scuffed at the end there because it was machine translated. I retranslated some of it with some additional sections. >Oshii: The reason Trump is treated like a hero by some despite having such a bad reputation, isn't particularly because they like his policies or whatever. That's right, it's political correctness. He overturned political correctness, that's why he's a hero. >Political corrected started from the idea of giving legitimacy to the socially weak. That itself isn't wrong. In a mature society, that would be a natural responsibility. The problem is, from that starting point it at some point turned the socially weak into the strong. >They're given priority in getting into schools, priority in getting hired. What’s more, the companies that advised this charged ridiculous amounts in consulting fees. They've demanded fees in the hundreds of millions from game companies. >This has direct relation to my job, and I hold a strong disgust towards the idea of bringing political correctness into the world of games and anime. After all, everyone who plays games wants beauties and cute girls. The same goes for myself as well. Why do we have to put uggos in there!? >It's formed atop admiration at its base! If you reject admiration, then entertainment loses its base reason for existing as entertainment. Because you'll be getting told that it's discriminatory to say beautiful or ugly. Western games are truly horrible with this, because of political correctness.
>>1228779 >After all, everyone who plays games wants beauties and cute girls. The same goes for myself as well. Why do we have to put uggos in there!? >It's formed atop admiration at its base! If you reject admiration, then entertainment loses its base reason for existing as entertainment. Because you'll be getting told that it's discriminatory to say beautiful or ugly. Western games are truly horrible with this, because of political correctness. Thank god that there are people like this who understand something that so many other assholes and retards either don't get or purposefully dance around. I just hope that the younger creatives and corporate types start to realize this so I can at least get anime/Japanese games that aren't horribly censored or changed for western sensibilities.
>>1228749 Bullshit, they never actually tackle anything politically other than in a single closed minded, politically biased and "safe" slant. I don't mind having that slant if it's counter balanced with catharsis and the opposite viewpoint both in a neutral sort of way. I want to feel like I have free choice in my game. I don't want to feel like I'm forced to play a specific way with the plot. New Vegas did this very well. Even within a faction choice you had a chance to modify that faction's actions. They don't do this shit anymore.
>>1228933 >Bullshit, they never actually tackle anything politically other than in a single closed minded, politically biased and "safe" slant. I don't think you understand what political correctness is. It's not about actually tackling anything with any semblance of substance, it's about dictating what can and can't be said or shown in media to protect your own political or social ideals. On the left the political correctness comes from socjus types who don't want to see anything in media that does things like "objectify women" or make certain minorities look bad (even in a fictional sense that most people obviously aren't going to give a fuck about because it's fictional). On the right political correctness comes from religious types who don't want to see anything in media that involves sex or nudity, or "the bad kind" of enjoyable things people like in media, which is why those religious types are often totally fine with excessive violence and gore in media.
10 years of developers giving it a chance for it does make them see how terrible it was to listen to social justice warriors.
>>1227506 Can you post the link to the article?
>>1227506 Where's your archive link, OP? >We source our information round these parts.
>>1229212 >>1229231 https://archive.ph/GH1kA The full article requires you to download their app, but someone did cut the specific snips that OP is talking about. https://archive.ph/Gpige
>>1228749 >>1229128 >it's about dictating what can and can't be said or shown in media to protect your own political or social ideals. Bullshit, it's about saving face for perceived financial risk. That is all. ESG is promoted for that fundamental reason - to make money more efficiently. That's it.
>>1229434 >ESG is promoted for that fundamental reason - to make money more efficiently. That's it. Anon, the people behind ESG already have all the money in the world. They want power and control, not more money. They're kikes, anon, and they want you dead.
>>1229434 That applies to the corpos, it does not apply to the viewers and the creatives. It's not like this annoying DEI/woke/whatever you want to call it shit only exists in corpo products, plenty of indie stuff is infected with this same garbage, not to mention individual creatives themselves, even the ones who work on corpo products.
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>>1229468 You don't understand any of this shit do you? What's the baby chasing?
>>1229434 >That thing you hate that has clear sociopolitical and ideological reasons for why it's pushed? That's purely because of capitalism. You should hate capitalism, not leftists. Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.
Are people this fucking blind?
>>1229524 Stay bluepilled my man
>>1229541 Jews promote it for one reason: money. They care about money. Initially it might have been a mere reaction to WWII shit, but it spiraled out of control into an obsessive hive of people seeking money. That's why the media is now trapped between saying pro-israeli shit AND pro-gaza shit nowadays. The money requires they appease both and they simply cannot.
>>1229585 Stay fucking retardedpilled, my man.
That's why my country will both support the indigenous population visually, then genocide them behind the scenes and cover it up. It's more financially beneficial to play these two things.
>uhhh the people who have trillions of dollars and already control the US finances just... le want more money! not even deserving of a (You)... or should I say (Jew)
>>1229668 I'm not saying there isn't ANY of that shit btw, but it is the LARGEST driver of that crap and installs these doctrines into people on all sides at the same time. It's ant hive in a death spiral. Stop having polar assumptions on this shit. >hurr bluepill >durr redpill You live in a dynamic chaos that is never EVER so polar. The devil is always in the details.
>>1227506 he ain't wrong
I'm sick of leftist attitudes period. I don't want to debate or argue about differing viewpoints or for shit that supports their viewpoints to be made, period. Trannies and faggots are gross and wrong and I'm fucking tired of all this stupid intellectual logical debate shit surrounding it, nobody gave a fuck about this crap before like 2010. Why the fuck can't everyone just be normal? Just fucking behave yourselves you weird gross faggots.
>>1229730 you are retarded. it can't be mainly about the money because dei has never been profitable for businesses and non-profit organizations are the ones pushing it the hardest.
>>1229839 Agreed. Keep that shit to yourselves, nobody cares that you fuck each other in the ass or wanna cut your dick off and pretend to be a woman, just do it in private and leave the rest of us alone.
>>1229854 You don't get it. Banks will LITERALLY leverage think tanks and other organizations to STANDARDIZE this shit because they think it's best for the economy. Why do you think they want to force homogenization so fucking hard? They see it as a more consistent demand pool that is less likely to eat itself, unlike pandering to two or more groupings of people that could harm each other as a demand pool or the products and investments involved with them. They will ignore how DUMB that blatant categorization and profiling is and will just assume it's a correct assumption for the sake of their numbers. Why? Because their credit ratings go up if they make up this horse radish to boost their asset profiles. I've done an entire fucking degree on this horse shit. I know DAMN WELL this is the reason for this horse shit. I have met these fucking assholes.
>>1230025 >retard is now larping yes everyone here believes your rambling
>>1227506 What's the matter? Not getting enough (You)s in your regular trawling grounds so you decided to cast a wider net? >>1226981
>>1230061 What's the matter with him making his own thread for a high effort posts? Fuck off you weird stalker nigger.
>>1230001 I disagree, the state WILL inevitably purge you for having apathy to things. Just watch. You might think this might contradict >>1230025 but there are other motives that will inevitably push this shit. The agenda is never fixed, it moves according to what is most profitable for the time. Sometimes it's apathy that is forced, sometimes the agitation between parties is forced. Depends on the current state of the whole system.
>>1230052 You will be fucking shocked how fucking dumb insurance firms are.
>>1230025 wrong. esg loans were given out to control culture using capital. do you think budweiser made money by ruining their reputation with tranny beer? and you are still ignoring the fact that the biggest promoters of global homo are ngos and non-profits. your degree is worth less than toilet paper if you actually believe any of this shit.
that makes me respect him even more now I wonder what his views are on censorship of creative works then
all art is just reflection of reality so DEI and wokeness are just human nature as much as their counterparts
>>1230115 >esg loans were given out to control culture using capital. Why do you think banks were doing that? Do they not follow standards and guidelines themselves? Insurers even follow them. They make policies for themselves, anon. They feed themselves, anon. So that's why your ESG spins out of control. Why there's nothing that seems to push them back other than an absurd situation appearing or a cataclysm happening. Say ... something like WWII. This has been going on for many many centuries. It made fucking hitler. It made marx. It's just mere money, it's power and tethers in general in a social context. The things that force people to coerce each other to behave, cooperate and coordinate. Being social is the reason we are all dying as right now from both covid and jab. It is the DRIVER of genocide. It is the driver of poverty. Seems counter-intuitive, but it's true. And it does the damage along side it's friend - being anti-social.
>>1230084 >I disagree, the state WILL inevitably purge you for having apathy to things. Then fucking purge me. I don't care anymore. You'll never get me to care about troons and fags.
>>1230270 ok, why do banks want so much money and so much power so fucking badly? Why does anyone? I know that's a retarded and juvenile question, but why can't it just be enough? Why does everyone have to fucking minmax life at all costs? Why is even a single CEO or corporation out there even remotely ok with being a huge nigger and causing problems for the sake of increasing their own already absurd wealth? Why does doing that not horrify and bother them at a core emotional level? Why is it never enough? Why do humans continue to cause problems for ourselves and each other when simply not doing it would be so much easier?
>>1230115 it's like he doesn't know about USAID spending billions to push this shit onto everyone. But yeah it's about "the money"
>>1230270 >Why do you think banks were doing that? because they're run by jews who have been pulling the same tricks for the last several centuries. the more divided goyim are the more distracted they are from expelling the kikes from a 110th country. it works like this: >jews use their control over media and ngos to push identity politics >shabbos goyim corporate directors see this is the current thing and go along with it >this opens the door for true believers to take over hr which positively reinforces ideologues in the lower ranks >company is now full of fags and trannies that want to put fag and tranny shit in its products
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>>1230413 >why do banks want so much money and so much power so fucking badly? Simple. Leverage. Survival. All this shit is being spun to sustain corporate entities. That's it. The people in these things are basically death marched by their own positions and their warped corporate sense of what they think they need to survive in this world. Communists have their own forms of this shit. So do nazis. It's a model that is familiar to all shapes of societies.
>>1230515 You don't need 17 mansions, 30 yachts and a small army of butlers to survive. Jeff Bezos didn't fly a penis shaped rocket around and have an ancient bridge torn down so his yacht could pass through because he was worried about his survival.
>>1230482 Yeah jews have the same feedback pattern like most human groups do. I fucking struggle everyday with people forcing me into this bullshit. The curse of culture.
>>1230482 Ok, but why does cultural division work in the first place? Why do the masses buy into this shit at all? Like I was born in the early 90's and the only time I ever heard about fags and trannies was stuff like Ace Venture or Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, when it was just jokes and nobody really cared. Calling stuff gay and retarded was common vocabulary back then, then around 2010 I noticed shit like Glee and other media was suddenly pushing this shit as some sort of divine and beautiful thing you must never EVER oppose or else you are an evil demon. It happened very quickly and very inorganically so I immediately noticed they were pushing an agenda and didn't care, but now half the country that used to also say gay and retarded with me believes this shit completely and considers me to be a heartless monster for not buying into it. Why does propaganda work at all?
>>1229468 >kikes >not wanting more money
>>1230548 There does come a stage of megalomania and exploitation of course. But that's also fed by this system. Think about it, if we weren't in this society and it didn't try to sell this idea of being above others, this wouldn't be as much of a thing or even a thought a person would have. Our situation as separate beings sort of entices and encourages this sort of power obsession. It's not mere survival. It's a perception of power and perception of the importance of power. There's a little bit of a survival of the fittest battle. Then there is the rush of that success that is fed on. Ultimately, and ironically, it's "bad pathfinding" and it generally creates situations where the society collapses because of the tyranny of the top. It leads to their death often. Oh would you look at that, there's been many Jewish pogroms.
>>1230610 Because people tend to go with the flow and rarely fight back, you push something hard enough, talk about it often enough, vilify people hard enough and everyone eventually falls in line, the problem with this is, is that it has a shelf life, people will grow tired eventually and fight back as we around 2022 and beyond, companies and entertainment keep pushing this crap and continues to flop and fail. But propaganda pushed hard enough is scary, in 2012 I used to play Guild Wars 2 a lot with friends, around the time Trump started to campaign, suddenly the narrative within the chat shifted, at no point did we ever discuss IRL politics, but suddenly its all anyone could discuss, it tore the guild apart and many other communities.
>>1230639 Exactly, they're more likely to lobotomize and system shock cyberize you. That was the whole point of GitS btw. Hey we've come full circle! Only in that, it went into free fall and became merely mechanical, like it is in our society.
kek I forgot about (((this)))
>>1230548 if you want to know why corporations focus on short term profit over everything else it's because it's literally the law that they have to. 100 years ago ford was seeing record profits and henry ford wanted to reinvest the money in the company by raising wages for workers and building another factory. his primary shareholders wanted him to pay the surplus money out as dividends (so they could take it and make their own rival company). they sued him and it went to the supreme court who sided with the shareholders. now corporations are obligated to be the biggest jews possible and ceos can be fired for not doing it. >>1230610 it works because of oversocialization. people are taught to feel guilt for not being "nice." this guilt is then harnessed by the identity politics crowd who says "if you don't accept my abhorrent behavior you aren't a nice person." oversocialized people then think "wow I don't want to not be nice I better let these people show their cocks to my children." the reason they started pushing fags and now trannies is because the previous wedges of brown people and women had (at the time) played their course and stopped being divisive.
mamoru ooshi the hackfraud that drastically alters the source material of anything he touches? case in point he's ONLY known for the gits film by westerners, not anything else he's done.
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>>1230081 >copy/paste an article is considered a high effort post now Used to be that one got b& for even thinking about it.
>>1230905 But anon, SAC is better.
The real black pill is much of this crap was being pushed on us for years, it just got more blatant as time went on. Remember old sitcoms, how the blue collar guy was always a slob, what does that create in a young mind? Oh blue collar guys are slobs, I don't wanna be a slob. Look at a lot of the press for Goldeneye, lots of THESE BOND WOMEN ARE STRONG, NOT JUST ACCESORIES, to the point that Brosnan had to say that Bond was still very much in charge. It just wasn't egregious and blatant, but the seeds had been sowed, and the growth sped up following occupy wall street.
>>1230944 2bh essaying is kinda shitty and lazy posts. I do that shit well but I wish I didn't.
>>1230959 Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, a film about a mixed race couple came out decades ago. Cartoons from the 80, 90s and 00s, full of diverse casts. There is many more from long before my examples but the agenda has been pushed and continually so for generations. Vidya was no different.
>>1231016 >Sitcoms where the head of the family was a black man I used to think this shit was normal.
>>1230959 What's worse is that for some shit it's just being "accelerated" per policy and likely initiative from admins somewhere. They'll use specific events to try and agitate the status quo and get the hive to move more. They 100% have faith in accelerationism at all costs. Into what? A brick wall? At least do a barrel roll. Oh wait that was covid.
>ford vs dodge rhetoric Nothing is that simple. Just read this.
>>1230959 >The real black pill is much of this crap was being pushed on us for years Ever since the jews won WW2.
>>1230959 I remember trying to explain to people in the 2000s that if a game has a brown woman character it's probably the devs being politically motivated to expose you to things in entertainment so you will accept them in real life and getting told >lol no dude it's just for variety you're crazy I don't need politics I just wanna play video games
>>1231180 try further back since the 1800s. It was more difficult to disseminate propaganda back then but they were still around. Once radio became widespread is when mass dysphoria started. (((Coincidentally))) the CIA was formed at the beginning of when television started. It was always a war for your mind. WW1 and WW2 were old time squabbles. WW3 started as soon as WW2 ended and it was always about creating a globohomo empire and imprisoning its own population by choice.
reminder that (((representation))) is just another name for (((affirmative action))) and (((positive discrimination))) (i.e. propaganda where characters that belong to certain 'minority groups' are shoehorned and made to look good, usually at the expense of the work) >>1229128 political correctness is older than that. it was always about controlling the narrative. the whole 'we care about minorities and the disenfranchised' schtick is just a smokescreen to conceal their true intentions behind a facade of pious moral righteousness. and it's not even that, because they'll readily defend bitches whoring themselves out on the internet for paywall bux. what they actually want is special treatment let me reiterate. the truth about political correctness is that it's all about money, narrative control, and entryism and subversion
Bro why would they not want more money when money IS power which is what they want as well. They set up the game for centralized bank capitalism and then just are ahead and can control everything to make more money which lets them control even more things like media and the perceived opinion of the masses. This thread sucks.
>>1227506 I love Motoko but she’s a proto girlboss/Mary Sue >Highly skilled in everything she does >Woman in a typically male workforce >Loved and respected by her team >Beats up men and cyborgs twice her size >Bisexual The only missing checkbox is that she isn’t rude or dismissive of men.
>>1232259 because anything with ESG bombs and the kikes behind it know it full well. it's just an exercise of power. and since it's not working too well, they're coupling it with the deplatforming of lewd games they dangle the low interest ESG loan carrot in front of corpos' eyes to make accept being subverted. unfortunately, it has worked quite well because corpos are managed by useless bean counters without a single creative bone in their bodies who're completely divorced from the products they sell and only see dollar (or yen) signs the only ones who've managed to avoid this type of cancer are chinks, but the CCP is equally cancerous (no skeletons, no blood, no nudity, no 'speaking ill of ancestors', etc.) as always the solution would be to get normgroids to have standards, but that's a fool's errand
>>1232370 Sci-fi "magic" evens the playing field.
>>1232370 She's a cyborg fitted with state of the art tech so it more or less makes sense. The only reason she is bisexual is because Masamune really wanted to put in sex scenes for whatever reason but didn't want to draw a naked male body. Also probably why he made cyborgs being able to have more intense sex with the same sex or whatever it was.
>>1230905 At least we're finally getting an adaptation closer to the manga without the pretentious shit.
>>1232592 He was horny as shit but didn't want to draw dicks because that's gay.
>>1232628 The manga is honestly nothing special but the film is fantastic.
>>1232637 I don't even think he thought about having to draw the dick. If I remember right he said he didn't want to draw a man's butt kek.
>>1232637 It's a miracle that Shirow kept his coomer tendencies in check long enough to make anything culturally significant. He just as easily could have easily given in early but he kept his cock (mostly) in his pants for decades before descending into degeneracy, what a chad.
>>1230905 Hey I know that gay boring Patlabor movie it's the same as too.
>>1232654 As an anime? Sure, the animation and music are impeccable. But it feels like Oshii sniffs his farts way too hard when trying to present the themes from the manga. Sure, Shirow starts with the schizo ramblings with Man/Machine Interface. But I feel some questions he proposed (without beating around the bush) in the original manga still hold up somewhat.
That's rich coming from him.... His non stop beating you over the head with messages in Ghost in the Shell was also terrible. That movie is carried by its fantastic art and music, but the writing is absolute shit.
>>1227506 >>1232893 The fucker better be a millionaire like J.K Rowling's fucking cow. If this fucking interview gets into the mainstream, it'll be the end of him. I hate Wokism, but this right-wing Boomer bullshit fad is even more ridiculous. Fuck it.
>>1235821 >I hate wokism, but isn't anti-wokism just as bad fellow gamers? Have you considered suicide?
>>1235821 >this right-wing Boomer bullshit fad I have no idea how you manage to make it to 8chan but saying "the powers that be spend lots of money to push unappealing and ugly products onto audiences" rankles you this bad. Also he'll be fine, he's an old jap director. He could do some pretty heinous shit and get away with it, frankly.
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>>1235821 Kill yourself
>>1231180 try 1650 england buddy when the jew loving angloid dick suckers allowed them back into europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resettlement_of_the_Jews_in_England
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New anime adaptation next year
>>1227506 im surprised nothing has really come close to ghost in the shell other than cyberpunk 2077 i hope the sequel is actually the game they promised to everyone with 77
>>1232370 He didn't want to draw a manly ass
>>1242130 >my chameleon gf when I whip out my dong
>>1230905 I've watched Angel's Egg and The Sky Crawlers. I remember almost nothing about them but I watched them. One was to do with war as a competition or something and Angels Egg I only remember the shot of the little girl draped over the egg nurturingly. So yeah. But still he's not wrong.
>>1229593 Are Jews killing Palestinians because it's going to make them money? Wake the fuck up. Not everything of is one dimensional and about money.
>>1241843 The anglos and the dutch were the two groups who most aided them.
it's weird because he's right, but i see nips on my friendlist playing ass creed shadows. i'll tell you one thing about nips; they are some of the most legitimate cattle people who are socially liberal to a fault. oftentimes, it's just for show which really means there's nothing in it for them when they do that
>>1231115 To be fair the black nuclear family was strong until >le civil rights
>>1251321 Chinese people are what Jews want us to be and they hate the Chinese since Mao Zedong got to them first
>>1251321 Nips are either completely based or completely cucked with no inbetween.
>>1229593 That doesn't make sense because ESG trash flops most of the time and they are still pushing it.
>>1252295 I'm probably gonna pirate it, and then buy it as a physical release for one of the consoles I own if the gameplay is good anyways.
>>1250817 >Are Jews killing Palestinians because it's going to make them money? All the property and land rights those Palestinians had aren't just gonna magically end up under Jewish ownership. They gotta get rid of them first. Which is kinda what they're trying to do. And real-state is a money maker.
>>1251601 >ESG trash flops most of the time and they are still pushing it. That's because they aren't marketing to individuals, they're marketing to investors. Like BlackRock. The product the company is making could be literal shit, but if they can convince investors that they're hot commodities then flops don't matter. Because the actual product they're selling isn't games, but stocks of their company.
>>1252719 Also I vaguely remember reading something that gay and trans people make excellent consumers due to not having the financial responsibilities the average heterosexual might have (children) and so they can focus their excess income on more things (slop) and that those with low testosterone in particular are unable to deviate from group biases (You don't like the new Star Wars/Marvel movie? You must be a white supremacist misogynist then) and will force themselves into a conspicuous consumption cycle (Gotta buy all the rainbow flags and trans rights stickers, donate to all the female leadership charities) to appease the bias of what ever group they identify as. I think the term was "superconsumers", in Gacha games we call them "whales".
>>1252789 Well, if nigger, fags, and trannies are supposedly such a super profitable demographic to pander to, then why do all the top gacha games barely feature any of them? Even the ones aimed at women, like Love and Deepspace, have characters that all look like light-skinned k-pop idols, with 0 blacks, and they even officially ban homo art between characters. Where are all the gacha games filled with nigs and fags characters like in AAA games, if nigs and fags representation is supposedly super profitable?
What really made games terrible are twitch/yt/online critics that make money through calling everything shit and then groom their fanbase and viewership so that they can never be disagreed with. Then they berate and bully other critics that ruin their "income strategy" in an almost cult-like fashion. The worst offenders never really go into detail with their criticism. The good ones ironically contradict themselves normally within their own reviews.
Oshii says a bunch of based stuff in his beautiful dreamer commentary
>>1251321 A century of killing them from the inside does that,they need to wake up from the programming, i wish i could see ambitious nipland without passive people
>>1252842 >Well, if nigger, fags, and trannies are supposedly such a super profitable demographic to pander to, then why do all the top gacha games barely feature any of them? Ironically, because EVERY company with something to sell is pandering to them and you know what happens when EVERYONE is competing for the same slice of pie. And the Gacha games are in the perfect position since they market towards the demographic now being ignored (straight people).
>>1252842 They don't want that shit, no one does. Not even them. That's why they just keep buying things like persona and crying about it. They like ugly gay games on social media and then don't buy them. They buy nice things and then they want it ruined and then they leave if it ever happens.
>>1253412 Why does this oversaturation only show up in AAA games and not in the gacha market? If anything, the lack of black and tranny stuff in gacha games means the niche is wide open. Wouldn’t that make it the perfect time to target that demographic, especially with no real competition? This is literally how games like Love and Deepspace became successful by creating a gacha game solely focused on straight women, where there isn’t much competition. >>1253455 >They don't want that shit, no one does. I know, that’s why it’s disingenuous to claim that these companies are chasing profit by filling their games with this stuff and that there’s a huge demand from the consumer market for black and ugly characters in video games, especially when some of the most profitable forms of monetization, like gacha games where you literally buy characters, barely feature these types of characters.
>>1251321 No different than us then. People will hate this but play the new thing because it's the new thing and they want the new thing becuase adverts told them it's the new thing. People whinge about how we're not in the golden age of games but smaller devs and even teams of 1 are making 6th gen style games that are great but they remain obscure. Also you have to promote the GOOD stuff that it's promoting POZ shit which nobody has ever done meaning that the regime has had 0 pushback at all. Whinging about DA NU DIDNEY IZ WOKE is fucking embarassing I'm amazed how many people even in this thread still think this shit is for money. It's not for money. It's never reliably made money (never gone broke either). It's the agenda of the zionist regime. Rupert Murdoch doesn't buy all those papers to make money, he does it to control the narrative. Intelligence agencies have been involved in TV programming ever since TV was invented. What's really shocking is that it seems games were mostly left alone until around 2008. I don't know the details though. I think there was a really old jimquisition (lol) where he talked about how non-vidya people started taking over around that time.
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>>1227506 >Western games are really terrible
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>these days you can't even be woke because of political correctness >words
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>>1227506 I always read it as Mamoru Oshiri
>>1254148 >Why does this oversaturation only show up in AAA games Because they're hurting for money and (((outside))) influences are keeping them from going bankrupt under the condition that they follow certain (((guidelines))) >and not in the gacha market? because Gacha literally prints money and isn't hurting for money >If anything, the lack of black and tranny stuff in gacha games means the niche is wide open. The niche is over-saturated by the existence of other forms of media already targeting them (Movies, comics, TV shows, games, novels, music) >Wouldn’t that make it the perfect time to target that demographic See above, they are already served. Have you noticed why there are so few furry focused gacha games? It's because their niche is being served through other mediums that satisfy them at a deeper level (Furry porn artists and fursuits makers) >I know, that’s why it’s disingenuous to claim that these companies are chasing profit by filling their games with this stuff Have you not considered for even a moment why a company would do something that would so obliviously fail? The only logical conclusion is that they have a guaranteed source of income separate from games sales. They could literally care less whether games sell if they already have capital coming in to cover the cost of failure and more. Look into BlackRock. >>1254243 And yet they NEED money to do all of those things. They are making money, just not directly. And there is money to be made in making businesses fail. Trying to say they aren't in it for the money as well is trying to argue that evil can be selfless. Jews aren't exactly living in poverty furthering their agenda.
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>>1254685 >Jews aren't exactly living in poverty furthering their agenda. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY. They own everything so it barely matters. Look it's like this and this NEEDS to be understood when you look at ANYTHING the regime does. Priority 1 is zionism Priority 2 is $$$$$ Plus we have Blackrock and ESGs and banks doing all sorts of shit where they give money for making rainbow propaganda. Understand though that the reason for the creation of these programs is to push the agenda, not to make money money because it doesn't reliably.
>>1227829 partially a consequence of shareholder-driven development where companies are only interested in the biggest budgets and margins, a single product for a single audience >>1252719 this much is true but blackrock and the other investors are doing it for ideological reasons, and they have proudly stated so on numerous occasions the problem is that they can toss around sums of money larger than a small studio makes in its lifetime, severely distorting the market The ultrarich and megacorps aren't making money for the sake of itself, they're doing it to put that money back in somewhere, manipulating politics to secure their dominance and shaping society. They exist in a different world from plebs who need to pay rent this month or small businesses who are worried about shutting down in a year. Basic functions of the market like survival and competition are meaningless at the scale they operate at. Their national governments won't even allow them to fail for poor business because of how many lives and wallets they control. >not in gacha shit not sure about that, it seems like every other gacha game ends up trying to self-censor to pander to this same ideology once they think they've got their whales hooked
>>1254784 Very well put anon. Much better than myself
>>1254685 I agree that they’re seeking money through investment firms like BlackRock and ESG, rather than trying to make a profit from people actually buying their games. But the original point I was replying to was: >I vaguely remember reading something that gay and trans people make excellent consumers due to not having the financial responsibilities the average heterosexual might have (children) which isn’t really the reason why this stuff is being added to all forms of media.
well Japan has been completely fucked by liberal bullshit since 1945 aswell
to me woke died on 10/7/2023. the system is pulling back lots of shit after the left turned against its (((masters))) and now trying to infiltrate the right using boomercons. they're trying to remoralize the population so they can feel good and join the army to die in foreign wars again. Woke is over, but the zionist regime still continues to destroy the west
>>1230959 since the (((Enlightenment))) and the (((French Revolution))) possibly since the (((Protestant Reformation)))
I don't blame the left at all. I put 100% of the blame on the right for doing absolutely NOTHING to stop this for the past 80 fucking years. but then again, the right hasn't been in power since 1945 or even 1918.
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>>1264554 It hasn't stopped even slightly. 100% of the woke shit is still happening. Then the neocon controlled ops just lied and said it's dead and everything is solved because they won 1 election (the only time they have even won a single battle in the entire western world in 8 years) based on aboslutely nothing. >>1264588 As you said they have no opposition. Look at Kamelo Anthony. Conservatives are all just tattle tale losers that say 'So what you're just allowed to do whatever you want? That's not fair' and do nothing. Meanwhile leftists always attack their enemies constantly no matter what so they always win. Leftists pwn Testlas everywhere so people stop buying Teslas and Tesla owners put humiliation stickers on their cars and win and conservatives go 'but you're now allowed to do that even though you are and want us dead' and loose instead of doing an equivelent
This thread has an unusual amount of shilling and gayops compared to most threads. I think they really get asshurt when a creative says "idk I think this is all a bit loony". There's always this quick, blatant scramble to dismiss and downplay it.
>>1265063 I actually do see a trend of shit being less woke. definitely it's a lot less woke than 2020 >no more BLM >no more antifa >free speech (or at least some) allowed on places like X >a bit more free than the woke era. allowed to talk about more things as long as it's not a threat to (((them))) >the left completely split and chattered after 10/7/2023 >many elites like Bezos, Musk and Zuckerberg switched to the right >the regime needs men to fight for its wars again, so they need to back down on woke >Israel is having trouble in the middle east it's a slow process, but I do think we're getting away from it. I'm actually more worried about what might replace it
>>1265200 >switched to the right dyrbi?
>>1228779 Thanks anon.
>>1227831 And were very close to undercovering USAID, I believe.
>>1288867 I always felt that it was a mistake to stop digging in that direction.
>>1227506 He's correct in everything he said.
>>1288926 Oshii is one of the greats, so it's no surprise.
>>1288867 Didn't USAID donate literal billions to Soros foundations?
>>1227506 Based guy
>>1227506 He ain't wrong
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>>1265200 >I'm actually more worried about what might replace it Remember Reagan? That's the replacement
>>1291792 Violence is not the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes
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>>1265200 >I'm actually more worried about what might replace it Corporate globalism powered by AI social engineering. Multiple political parties dependent on AI to spread their messages across AI surveilled platforms designed to either amplify or silence chosen narratives. Economic incentivization to double down on AI use to direct cultural and social initiatives on industrial scales. Demoralization and encouragement of violence (as a pretext for draconian surveillance laws) are a given. Right wing, left wing, won't matter. (((They))) have no allegiance or loyalty to any nation or creed other than their own.
>>1227506 > political correctness has made western games ‘terrible’ Its not just political correctness, its the damn fucking greedy kike who thinks they know what the goyim want, the same thing happened to the music and movie industry, you get a era of experimental and unique products, fifth and sixth generation, followed by an era of absurd trash. https://youtu.be/xP4wsURn3rw
>>1293188 They don't care what the goyim want. It's not about that. It's about what THEY want the goyim to be digesting
>Mamoru Oshii thread >No mention of Panzer Cops This is a hostile thread takeover. Resistance will be met with liberal force.
>>1334987 >liberal No I don't want that!
>>1227506 It's somewhat true, but only part of the story desu. The reality is that there are very few good artists in the West who make it through the meat grinder of art school. There is little other infrastructure for artists in this region. The end result is that you have almost no artistic talent, and no one of worth enjoys ugly games, art, etc.
>>1229622 That type of schizophrenic shit trickles down into everyone's daily lives. The modern world is everyone trying to have everything both ways and living with cognitive dissonance, and it makes everyone into a fucking basket case. Everyone needs to stop being such gigantic feminine pussies and fucking own up to themselves.
>>1227506 >There is nothing wrong with that. In a mature society, it is a natural responsibility. There is something wrong with it: they were socially weak for a reason. They don't deserve to be lifted up, they deserve to be fucking culled.
>>1264588 It's all for nothing if people don't start talking about economics and TKD. All of that disruptive culture war bullshit was just a distraction from the things that actually matter.
>>1227506 You only have to look at how Atlus is censoring Kaneko's art in SMT to know how much the west is dumbing down and censoring Japanese content now. Even though sexual themes are largely esoteric in it to the point where it's beyond necessary. It's like westerners don't realise that sex is human nature and that it's embedded in non-abrahamic iconography. That's how dumb westerners are becoming. How long before they start banning hundu and bhuddist art for ESG policy reasons in the west? Even though that's ironically Eurocentric and highly racist. It's not even politically correct anymore. It's just western puritanism, only they leverage communities calling themselves left winged AND the right. I don't even think the fucking Nazies censored as many books and media items as we currently do now. It's outrageous to consider this state a liberal state. There's nothing liberal about it. You're just puritans. And that's why content is boring now.
>>1293081 Can we stop calling it liberalism or conservative even. Let's just call it what it is - corporatism.
>>1336628 Bullshit, the economics is why the culture war is justified. It is leveraged by major banks through think tanks and whatnot through corporate governance and general harassment of individuals that do not comply with or work outside of it (as that is competition to their corporate racket's own equity standards and therefore likely to produce shit better than their shit). It is money that is the number one driver of marxists nowadays. Clearly. Just look at how many are paid by these regimes to push cultural marxist bullshit. It's not even marxist. It's just corporate benefiting ideals pretending to be marxism at time. All this shit is just designed to "limit risk" btw. That's it. And if it's not, then it's merely perturbing shit carefully to benefit hedge funders.
>>1230413 That's debt-based economies for you. Infinite growth is paramount. Anyone who slows down dies.
>>1377736 >Westerners Americans, Europeans are fine with sex.
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>>1334987 紅い眼鏡 was the best of the trio (vids unrelated)


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