Still better villains than anything that came after them in the timeline. Sigma's return in X6 was especially funny, because Gate acted like he accomplished some drastic last resort by reviving Sigma, but Sigma already rebuilds himself anyway, so all he did was get him out of bed too early.

>>1234489 No one ever wants to admit it, but the way Vergil was handled in DMCV made me dislike the character. If hed been in the game and maybe had his own subplot then fine, but using him as both the penultimate and final boss is just lazy pandering.

I assume they'll come up with some contrived reason why he's back in Beyond.

Maybe not always Yahweh, but God in some sense.

>>1234489 Oh my fuck I hate how much they use Nefarious. He was annoying in Ratchet 3, and he's been annoying in every game since. They retroactively wrote him into the 2016 reimagining. How hard is it to write a new villain? Nexus managed to do it and that was 5 hour side game. I hope the next game, slated for later this decade according to Sony leaks, doesn't have him again.

>>1234489 A Crack in Time wasn't too bad. Should've been the end of him right then. Tools had a nice villain, I guess.

>>1239383 Azimuth was in the concept art for the leaked Ratchet game, so they're bringing him back. They could bring back Tacheyon too seeing as he survived ToD

>>1239383 Also fuck you Nefarious might be overused but he was great in Ratchet 3

You ever stopped to count how many fucking games feature Cthulhu or an identical clone of him? TOO MANY

>>1241797 Nyarlathobros…Yog-sothsisters…what does he have that we don’t???

>>1241797 FACT: Lovecraft is when there's tentacles. The higher the tentacles, the more love is crafted.

>>1239298 >Thinking a demiurge is god. >Takes overused stale memes as fact.

>>1242330 Nyarlathotep was the big bad of Persona 2 so he has that.

>>1238972 they still haven't brought the fucker 100% back from the dead without clones

>>1239148 Should have suffled them around with original bosses like the original New did on the first DS. Anyway, love me some Wendy.

>>1239148 It being the NSMB series did that itself. Those games are incredibly mediocre and I do not understand the praise the original got, either.

>>1242905 Isn't the OG Ridley dead? Sure the space pirates keep making clones but those are essentially his 'sons', its not like they can actually take his soul/consciousness and transfer it to the new body.

Big Boss

Reskinned L4D special infected appear in basically every coop horde shooter I've played. Doesn't matter if you're fighting zombies, bugs, rats or heretics, these enemies are what the devs look to in order to spice up the gameplay.

>>1249349 Japan's don't change what works mentality taken to the extreme. I'm sure that that there's somebody over there that thinks that it cannot be a real Zelda and people will be mad if Ganon isn't present.

>>1243112 People loved the original because it was the first new classic style Mario in ten years. Remember that had double the novelty in 2006 because we were just coming out of the big "No 2D allowed" phase so a big company like Nintendo putting out a big 2D game at all was something people hadn't seen in a long time. And as a 30 dollar handheld game it was actually pretty good. What happened of course was that they then ran that sub-brand into the ground with a billion releases that were all copy-pastes of the first and started selling them as $60 console games. So people understandably got sick of that. And lets not pretend Wonder isn't just the fifth game in the series rebranded because "New" didn't make sense after twenty damn years.

>>1239298 To be fair, all the "deities" you have to fight and kill in JRPGs are demonic entities/demiurge-like beings that in no way represent the God of Abraham.

>>1241797 What if Cthulhu was a boss but she's actually a cute girl and you were the villain?

>>1262411 Pure cosmetic difference.

>>1251584 Can you blame them when the fandoms used to the status quo? Most people hate change.

>>1292698 I would do the same thing in their place, but the end result will be stagnation and endless sequels like with Assassin's Creed. Also, at some point people will get tired of the same thing over and over again, like with Star Wars.

>>1293018 SW was ruined by more than retreading the same plots and settings or musical overture. To ruin an old franchise like Zelda/Mario where the villain does the same bullshit you would have to also subvert or completely destroy anything the fandom loved. Ganon's returned for the 10th time only this time hes stealing souls and he "killed" Zelda and Link has to partner up with a female talking gnome with big tits to save Hyrule? Its boring but everyones fine with it. Subvert this by saying Ganon is now Zelda and she hates Link and have the story end with Link dying and now you've properly pissed people off.

>>1242330 I want more stuff of Hastur honestly

In real life too

>>1243136 Cortex at least has the benefit of being the iconic first villain. Ukauka was stale right at the 2nd time they used him.

>>1293018 >>1292698 >>1251584 >I'm sure that that there's somebody over there that thinks that it cannot be a real Zelda and people will be mad if Ganon isn't present. <Link's Awakening <Majora's Mask <The Oracle games <Four Swords <Four Swords Adventure <Minish Cap <Phantom Hourglass <Spirit Tracks <Skyward Sword <Tri Force Heroes The fuck are you talking about?

>>1367948 the Oracles, and Four Swords Adventures both undeniably had ganon in them. and fans complained to no end about Demise in skyward sword..

>>1368027 They call him "Demise" but we all know his true name. Speaking of Akuma, Capcom overuses him a lot as a superboss.

>>1251584 >I'm sure that that there's somebody over there that thinks that it cannot be a real Zelda if Ganon isn't present. A Zelda game without Ganon is like a Zelda game without Link. Or a Zelda game without Zelda.

>>1367902 Hes one of those retarded breed of villains who has alot of implied power but its all fluff or never elaborated on. He also has no real charm, being a domineering boss like figure.

Ganon is forever stuck as the series bad baddie because the devs rarely give the Triforce of Power to anybody else. Maybe other villains should wield the ultimate power.

>>1245976 Died in Super, yeah. I'm not an expert I know the prime games are between 1 and super, so Meta Ridley is still og Ridley, just rebuilt after being blown to chunks, and then somehow they bio-reconstructed him for Super, where he actually died, and any appearance after that is a clone.

>>1241751 >Tachyon The least remembered villain in the series right next to Otto Destruct. I'm not sure Tachyon is a bad character, just really annoying and one dimensional. Go through Mukow is maddening because he won't shut up about the fucking haiku he wrote.

>>1249630 they really set the standard for that entire genre

>>1249630 >>1369586 To this day I still don't understand what people like in this trash game. It's a terrible mess

William Afton. Scott Cawthon can't come up with another antagonist in the five nights at Freddy Series, even if his life depended on it.

>>1370707 I mean, he's the character responsible for all of the events of the series unfolding one way or another. It sort of depends on what your definition of "antagonist" is, since in almost all of the games (besides 3 and 4) the characters who pose a threat to the main player are all animatronics possessed by dead children. Like, if he's dead then there aren't any angry spirits who want him dead, and by extension no possessed animatronics to make a game from. I think that's more a problem with Scott's writing than anything else. He sort of wrote himself into a hole by making everything revolve around Afton probably because he didn't expect it to last like a dozen games and almost two decades but the franchise doesn't really have anywhere to go at this point anyway so it's sort of met its end as a result of that. I feel like a turbo autist knowing any of this but I agree with you since it's never established by the time of current releases whether Glitchtrap, Burntrap or the Mimic are separate characters or all one and the same and by extension just William Afton again. So little is ever actually established or confirmed in any substantial way, the writing in this series is retarded beyond belief.

>>1370707 I'm annoyed he first appears in FNAF 3 but suddenly got lorefagged as the main antagonist ever since. The name "William Afton" doesn't appear in 1 or 2 at all. There is a kid killer in a mascot costume, sure. But this nameless killer later got retconned into being William Afton.

>>1367948 Most of your examples are old and 2D, if you look at 3D it's mostly Ganon. I don't want to be elitist but of the games you mentioned which ones were important enough for Nintendo to have playable characters in Hyrule Warriors?

>>1234489 You rang?

>>1368359 It's also worth mentioning his other appearances outside of Street Fighter, like they were so proud when they come up with such character and made an evil-er version of him in SF4 >>1402062 >Wow the new Mario game where Bowser fucks shit up <Never seen that one coming Can't believe they never brought up the fucking alien from Mario Land as the main boss for both Galaxy games, it just didn't make sense for a primitive snapping turtle to turn upside down the whole solar system.

>>1402939 I like Bowser but I'm still annoyed by the fact that Tatanga was not the main boss of Galaxy 2

>>1402974 Making it worse is the fact that Miyamoto was the one who decided to replace K. Rool in DKCR (and probably DKTF) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAw2UnqHJt0&t=352s

>>1234489 I know the series is dead but this guy's fate being retconned in each iteration gets annoying by the third game. At the very least I found it very funny that he gets to kill Stalin.