>>1783222
>you are being a little too picky, man...
What's the point if not to have the ultimate version of Super Mario Bros.? At this point I don't think this is really better than the previous versions, at least not in every way. It could get there, but as it is the only thing that's really better is widescreen, but even that I'm a bit iffy on. The game and levels weren't designed for it, so even that has problems.
>Also yeah, a handful of things you're complaining about are reliant on you beating a game mode to begin with, like the Level Select feature adding once you beat a game mode. Of course you don't get to choose your levels until you beat them all.
All-Stars lets you, and IIRC Deluxe does as well. (It's been a while since I played that one. Could be wrong.)
>And some of the things you complain about don't make sense period, like you push for design purism while making design liberties of your own.
The only design liberty I suggested was giving Toadette Peach's SMB USA moveset. If she's gonna be in the game anyway, then make her the fourth playable character from the NES SMB game that has four playable characters. Toad and Toadette are new characters in these games anyway. I'm just suggesting ways to make the best of that. But personally I'm only ever going to play as Mario and Luigi.
I'm not opposed to original stuff being included, but I'm not interested, and I think there should be options to turn it off. There should be options to switch between the various differences that official versions have, and if they want to add some original stuff too, then okay, add that as one of the options.
>>1783349
>I mostly agree but I think the issue there is that the levels aren't designed for different gameplay style, so it might make some levels too easy and other impossible
Well Luigi does play differently in Lost Levels. I assume that's something they're already planning to add here. That's a pretty glaring thing. And yeah, I suppose give the option to play Luigi as either a pure Mario clone, or with SMB2 physics. That would make sense. I don't care nearly as much about Toad and Toadette or any other brand new characters who weren't originally playable in these games, but I figure the obvious thing to do with them is let Toad play like he does in the game where he is playable, and then that leaves a fourth playable character that Toadette is an obvious replacement for.
>There is also the problem with the save system... I get All-Stars had it, but let us be realistic and ask ourselves if SMB1 really needs it. Lost Levels maybe because that game is a bitch, but SMB1 normally goes down in 10 minutes with warps and 1 hour warpless if you know what you're doing, same goes for Special despite it's devilish level design so a save system as All-Stars has it is virtually pointless.
Yet All-Stars and Deluxe did it. And there is a save system here. It just isn't presented in as pretty a way as All-Stars and Deluxe.
>And asking for All-Night Nippon to be just reskin SMB1 like it used to be? It's missing the point of All-Night Nippon being a standalone mode as opposed to a togglable option for SMB1 like the Second Quest is.
It's not just a pure reskin though. There are level design differences (even if Lost Levels ended up using most of them after). And I'm just suggesting to allow it to have original graphics as an option. If people want extra new stuff, okay, but leave original as an option.
>If anon really wants the true purist SMB1 experience, might as well grab FCEUX and load up SMB1, Lost Levels, the SMB Special rom hack and All Night Nippon... and mGBA for SMB Deluxe for good measure.
What I want is the ultimate version.
>SMB1
I want all the content from Deluxe, but without a zoomed in screen, and ideally the option to switch between original graphics and sound and All-Stars graphics and sound.
>Lost Levels
I want all the content from Deluxe, but without the zoomed in screen or the level design changes to accommodate it (lack of wind, for example). Also Deluxe is missing some of the extra worlds, which is a problem. Again, the option to switch between original graphics and sound and All-Stars versions would be nice.
>All-Night Nippon
There's only the one original version so there isn't as much I desperately want, but at least give me the option to play without all the new shit tacked on. Let me toggle it off. Having the quality of life things like widescreen and saving is cool, but I don't need the weird graphics. And if you're gonna add weird new graphics, obviously the thing to do would be to add All-Stars graphics, since most of them would just be the same as the original games which already have them. If you're gonna get creative with graphics here, then the obvious thing to do is All-Stars versions of all the weird ANN sprites and stuff.
>Special
This is pretty good from what I can tell so far. I think it would be neat to have an option to tweak the color palette to match the original, like Frantik's 35th Anniversary romhack does. And if you want to add any original graphics, adding All-Stars versions of the few wholly original sprites here would be the thing to do.
General
>Make the presentation of the Game Select and Save Menus look like All-Stars.
>make Level Select work and look like All-Stars.
>have option to toggle the above two things to look like Deluxe instead.
If you're going to add original things, adding Red Coins, Yoshi Eggs, and Score Attacks to the two weird games (and to the extra worlds that weren't in Deluxe) would be cool. But that's a lesser priority than just putting together all the official content that already exists. Because I can't just load up a game and play all the content at once. Each previous version has advantages and disadvantages. I want a version that has all the advantages, and for the subjective things, like me toggle them on or off.
And yes, Sonic 3 AIR is the role model. Sonic fans' weaponized autism beats Mario fans' autism once again. I think this project is so cool, it's so close to finally being the ultimate version of what may very well be the most important game of all time. But they're not quite there yet. As of now, there isn't a real reason to not play either All-Stars or Deluxe for the presentation and special features, or the original for a purist experience. This could easily give you a more purist experience but doesn't.
And no, I don't care about speedrun autism. I get your point, but I don't think caring about metaphorical busses is the same as caring about the presentation not being as nice as All-Stars, which itself is one of the most famous and popular games of all time, despite being a remake compilation.