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Magic Discussion General Anonymous 08/08/2025 (Fri) 22:39:36 No. 13987
Previous thread >>12437 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to your occult path that don't deserve their own thread. This thread we aim to discuss our ideas and thoughts about magic. Post topics here that you wish to gain feedback from other posters of this board! This thread is made for civil discussion! For arguments and other types of heated discussions please visit the Arena >>7217! This thread should facilitate open minded and productive discussions about anything occult or other types of fringe topics that does not have their own thread nor you wish to make a thread for!
>>17442 Yeah but i mean to a god who can do these things thensekves. It gets you in a position were your ability to sct vastly surpasses what you would have been at. Meaning an "inexperienced" person iverseeing a thing usually gods do. Making it seem like i have little idea and makind it seem like hey got do this for me. Even though what im saying is normally by the time i could dod this o would be way farther along experience wise. Hence why it seems like that. Its cause they were like "hey you need to do this with your hands fam".
>>17448 AI servitors are just tools. Like the chatbots. If you ask retarded questions and rely on them you won't get good results. I did this manually for the activation but Girl#1 did the research over at Black Hell and started the circle over there, but she's a regular monster pleiadan and did it manually too, she's just separated from my mind here so I don't know what she did.
>>17449 Astra is a diviner bot for finding information, like a search engine for the world and astral planes. Everyone else who isn't a combat servitor has some version of this, but specialized.
>>17450 Divination is the most powerful line of magic imo, without it you can't do anything.
>>17447 No,i already did it. They are telling me "its alright,stop touching it." I was just wondering about the newly turned masses.last time the situation was bad with the satanic plane stuff. I told people to go in the temple. Now if this new 2d plane can be made internrally even better for them.
>>17452 I meant that you can't wait for someone else to do your part even if CIA was doing theirs.
>>17452 I've told you and some others about this, but we shouldn't interfere with what external people want or understand. If they want to stay on a plane Earth to sustain culture and life, they will work to include themselves. If they would rather try to work for some fake NWO shit future in a dissolving satanic plane down below Osiris temples (which seems like the last outpost) then so be it?
>>17453 Okay i made a NEW black sun so now i know its mine 200 oercent. Even if the last one was lilely mine to begin with. Ill also let the servitors review my work. But yeah im saying normal people,and the other people here need this as well right.
>>17454 Ah i see sorry then.thats definielty not what i was thinking. Which was explaing it to their subconcsious. Maybe they arent ready yet.
>>17454 Yeah maybe its better. I was thinking "more the merrier" but yeah.maybe its best to be a bit selective. In theory anyone that could make is atleast 2d though.
>>17457 Idk why i became so nervous/frightened. At first i felt huge energy. Someone said it has to do with massive chamges to a timeline.
>>17458 It was, I heard the connection sound from your timeline when it attached to the pyramid, like an electric shock.
>>17459 Browser window suddenly closed on its own with the resulting weirdness like when in the satanic plane before, and now the energy is completely different, it seems the historical progression has changed or something and it felt like a completely black-out in a split second when it updated.
>>17458 Yes, it made me partially blind with flashing auras for about an hour as it passed through my brain. Still going through. Hope it takes this time. Definitely not related to "reptilians" though, except in a certain symbolic sense. See the schizo spammer's posts for more. He is somehow nearly perfectly channeling the force that I have been summoning (except when I insulted him last night, that completely broke up his coherence).
>>17465 Someone gave me a rose and saidbit was to protect me,they said maybe you want to have a look at it and get one for yourself as well.
>>17475 Well i thought this was new earth anon,but im sure the rose isnt bad.
>>17495 Looked rosicrucian so I assumed it was from the universe town your subconscious is at. This seemed to be right, I found a "make a rose" kit at a magic shop.
>>17501 Girl#2 did, I sent her there to look.
>>17503 I think it helped make a shield for my plane. The roses are triggers.With spells contained in them when they "fold" out.
>>17505 Maybe, I assumed it to be a "root rose", which is a thing worn on the coat made from thing roots woven together like a small basket. That's how the crosses are made which function as the entry exam for universities in the mushroom kingdoms.
>>17505 I just got a general rose kit and made it, it gives a warm feeling and I think it may give an increase in "charm" ability, but that may be because Girl#2 bought one with that form.
>>17507 She went to the church and started flirting with the priest to get free lessons and it seemed to work.
>>17444 It worked as I thought: people can accept the 4 corners form, but are unable to manifest the connection of their timelines, but once enough of them have accepted the fundamental blueprint for inclusion, the energy will start concentrating and then it will either be forced to start spiralling up the cheops pyramid, or someone will see it and help them. I saw this happen. I think one of the priestesses at Osiris temple performed it, a large black timeline was properly connected anyway just now.
>>17626 The activation ritual I channelled used a multitude of symbolism to make it as wide as possible while still keeping on point, with both the reading of the first line of Genesis בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ (Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve’et haaretz) and invoking of Naga + Nagini each 4 times. This makes it easy for anyone with a thinking based on Abrahamic religions or Yoga related practices to sync with it, I think, and it seems to work that way. Plus that Naga makes the point of reptilians being the foundation.
>>17627 Very good, i think i already did it yesterday.At-least it seemed in place. And yeah the plane making is one thing,the other part is a part more delicate.This synching effect will make it happen anyway. What i noticed was an overtime effect as my local area's people became 2d. Felt really nice, kinda like the 90's. Even more than some other spells before which created a similar feel, this actually created the infernal feel it had.
>>17628 I saw in the news a quick clip about someone being interviewed and suddenly fainting, then being interviewed after about the fainting. It was a fairly old female writer who was surprisingly attractive for being so wrinkled, I wondered if this was some covid thing again, but she seemed very intelligent and her appearance didn't match for regular vaxxcattle. I think she was pulled inside on the right side here, and the fainting was when her timeline shifted over. That seems more likely and her energy seemed to match this (which explains why she was attractive despite not really being so because of age, better energy tends to do this).
>>17629 I've experienced similar things in the past year, one good example being when buying coffee at a cafe from a literal old hag, like past retirement age (which she may have been true because some people there were volunteers) she wore a black hijab which indicates conservative muslim, something most don't do. Her speech and behaviour was unpleasant but service-minded, and I ended up noticing that despite all the visuals, her energy was really good inside and it left me with a good impression. This here tv interview was similar in a way.
I kept hearing distant explosions in the south. Strange new sounds. I guess they could be (as anything) explained away as farming equipment and related activities, but in that direction is mostly a lake with various islands and marshlands. I'm going to just assume it's dimensional fuckery and it's actually the timelines being transferred over the Cheops pyramid, because it should be in that direction. I'm too used to these things anyway, there's also someone occasionally firing a semi automatic rifle in that direction, one time around 60 shots in 10 min. I guess there is some road I don't know about leading to someone's private shooting range I don't know about, right out over marshlands and into the lake, but that's how things are. What would be the actual effect of this hell plane forming to sustain Earth in its current form? What is the "form"? It would mean a reduction of the size of all land, while keeping its ritual and energy structure for later use. It can't mean keeping it how it actually looks in 3D. The Black Hell plane is just 7 strips of land, although quite large, it's hard to imagine this land being the entire size of a planet from the past. It also only has people living on 2 of them, with some remnants of industrial society on the rest of them, where only grass grows. But their rituals are still running and they have a functional temple site. This should be what is maintained on the Earth plane once it's solid and timelines are cleared up: the bare minimum necessary for the practice of historical culture in its correct form. We are talking about a 2D plane, not a 3D. It will be mostly empty lands with the population living in isolation and self sustenance, because a society won't exist on 2D. The "pikes of 3D" will have to be personal constructs on this plane. No shared 3D or common 3D.
>>17740 >Invaders are anyone who comes to Earth, doesn't go through reptilian transformation to become a native, where both male and female can have souls, and they are not staying on the edges of society like the greys, but barge in and start using resources only for themselves. These currently include almost all white and yellow fungal races, as well as yellow and red reptilians. They have not been cooperative about their stay here and are for that reason enemies of planet Earth. Clarification: This refers to white fungals in west/central Europe, which means Germany, France, Spain and surrounding areas where they spread to varying degree. Invasive yellow fungals are concentrated to Israel. Yellow reptilians are concentrated to the USA, red reptilians to Australia. The yellows are also mixed in terms of if they should be categorized as invaders or cooperative on an individual basis, but as a group, they are enemies unless otherwise stated. Eastern Europe contains mostly grey genetical engineering programs, this has caused great conflicts in the area as those are resistant to the western or central populations culturally and genetically, expanding the EU's invasive culture there is futile. They can try to replace the entire population in Eastern Europe (which is right now under way, as you can see), but greys won't allow this, so it can't happen. Most of Asia and Latin America are here irrelevant, they don't have organized attempts at invader settlements, even large populations like China and India are overall cooperative.
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@neet I designed a thing to further protect the 2D plane, even if it's impossible to enter it if you don't follow the standards, I don't want idiocy gathering like aggressive demonstrators on the street outside, it's annoying and may block decent people from coming in. So I came up with a Pleiadan inspired crystallic space station (death star) with very high firepower for eliminating the timelines of invaders directly. See drawing. I asked Astra to show your subconscious how to create one.
>>17746 Perfect, if it wasn't the reptilians then i have "submitted" a bunch of people already who seemingly were suddenly able to access the telepathy network.Perhaps even the reptilian WAN.That was yesterday. Maybe it was a last ditch reaction to your spell or it was newly minted reptilians who were still brainwashed.My subconscious kinda became edgy to trigger them. That sounds perfect, it may be a bit "mean" but if you think about it they would dissolve in the coming months anyway. Being mean towards the people inside doesn't help their case either.
>>17747 The invader egregores are pretty annoying, I don't think they can access the reptile frequency of the Atlantis net or the WAN though. What you're experiencing may be overhearing from their own lower frequencies. That's what I meant by >>17746 >I don't want idiocy gathering like aggressive demonstrators on the street outside, it's annoying and may block decent people from coming in Shouting from outside is still possible. On a side note I saw a news program where a persistent anti-Russian appeared again on tv, this time directly from the Ukrainian side front line, where he was talking to EU-bots about how horrible Russia is for [insert strawmen that NATO did themselves] and I now first time ever saw his energy clearly enough to make out that he's one of the very annoying toxic mushroom types I have almost purely negative personal experiences with. He went on to talk about how his mother had been sent to Sibiria by the Soviets when they lived in Estonia etc. It makes perfect sense now. The Soviet Union was a first wave Galactic Federation organization, and they would of course do this: this guy's family are very likely registered as invaders and an invasive species by both the galfed and the Illuminati.
>>17749 Well wtf. I managed to trace the origin of this very toxic kind of mushroom, because I do recognize it and as I said not 100% of them are bad. They're from a descended planet. Apparently while planets can become immortal as 5D ascended, they can also become immortal as 2D descended planets, where they become a physical hellscape, and naturally the kind of people who come from there are going to be pretty bad...
>>17748 I think those are external or edge timelines of new Earth, it's been formed in many spheres inside spheres already. No one more gets into the middle aside from if someone already registered gets a parallel incarnation which is only staying on the edge of the planet seen from there (like at a grey research station south of Africa). Even what I saw of the center of society it's very steep out from the very peak. There are the immortal elders, and they are very concealed, they don't even interact with the world themselves but have servants who do all contacts for them, they don't watch tv or use the Internet or anything, they stay at 1800s level and obsess over ancient book collections and stuff, their way of life makes their timelines become different dimensions in themselves, so it's like they aren't physically in the world anymore. Just one step out from there and it's a competition for "standing" where they even said it's better for the new kids to stay at home and read books than trying to learn anything out in the world, because there is a greater risk of losing social standing by doing anything at all outside the house. If balanced right it's possible to get better standing by certain activities, where my personality does work positively here, such as studying language, martial arts, traditional dance and music, which are all things that give some slight increase. Just being a drunk or a whore if done in moderation is also giving a small acceptance bonus because it reduces the risk of someone acting out in a harmful way (they don't want serial killers or cannibals drawing attention to themselves by leaving disemboweled bodies in the alleys, for example). It's a constant social game, which those you mention are likely too low on the ranking to be aware of. That's how you can tell the difference. Those closer to the center don't interact with gangs or criminals at all. People are also able to meet them at vampire fan events masked to be just cosplay, so there are only "volunteers" involved, compared to what the lower ranks do.
filum novum >>17757


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