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Magic Discussion General #2 Anonymous 09/27/2025 (Sat) 20:46:26 No. 17757
Previous Thread >>13987 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to the occult. This thread is for discussions which do not have or deserve their own thread. This thread we aim to discuss our ideas and thoughts about magic. Post topics here that you wish to discuss and gain feedback from the other posters of this board! This thread is made for civil discussion! For arguments and other types of heated discussions please visit the Arena >>7217! This thread should facilitate open minded and productive discussions about anything occult or other types of fringe topics that does not have their own thread nor you wish to make a thread for it!
I used a not AI or similar painting like pic for the OP, so doozy posters won't mix up the discussion thread with the proper blog thread >>13990 by accident. The discussion/blog distinction helped the threads it seems. More than half of the posts in the blog thread were proper and everyone understood it's purpose. While the discussion thread lasted for almost 2 months. The quality of the posts improved this way in both threads too. Let's have a quality discussion again!Or at least let's try to have something resembling it
The joke of ridiculous synchronicities continues. >>17746 >I came up with a Pleiadan inspired crystallic space station Right after I created and shared this with neet, I see this in Shangri-la Frontier which I'm watching for the first time now. This anime also had a weapon in it, the vorpal cutter knife, which could be created with ease as an astral artifact suitable for my abyss bunny familiar after just seeing it. I summoned the bunny from the void earlier this year, using a remaining bunny egregore which had been following me around after I had a bunny pet in an MMOs 10+ years ago. The energy of the pet from the game remained, so I used it for the summoning to manifest a real spirit instead. Then the mc of the anime gets a bunny NPC companion here, after using said weapon. Again, things are apparently ridiculously predictable down to details like this. Nothing I do seem to actually be my own ideas, I'm just following along a railroad laid out in advance. Just as in the anime, this bunny pet was from a special event, I won it in a drawing contest on the game forum.
>>17761 @neet Because I don't expect anyone else to follow, but it's a continuation of the previous discussion: Neet saw a black net with an attached chain and weapon which seemed to be lodged into my gut. When looking at it, my djinn said the net was a network of mosques in Europe, and the chain and sickle weapon was a djinn weapon used to increase muslim birth rates as a form of generational warfare. In the anime Shangri-la Frontier >pic (manga because it shows the weapons) which I'm just now watching, they spend 4 episodes on the boss battle against an undead samurai called Whetermon the Tombguard > next pic the winning condition is to fight him through 3 phases, then block his ultimate sword technique, causing his sword to break. The mc, wearing a bird mask (Thoth reference?) uses an "evolved" version of the bunny weapon, now shaped as a crescent moon to block his attack and win. In the past days, as posted in another thread, I developed a knife artifact for channelling the material power of Ein Sof using kabbalah methodology. I spent 2 days on the creation and testing, before getting to the thing I meant to use it for, which was to subdue the horribly negative egregore of society around myself. When I began this process I divined its structure based on the knife's ability to find the weakness to cut, and found that <the location in my gut, where the djinn sickle (crescent moon shape) had been stuck <it had been stuck there when trying to block a black pike-like energy weapon which was aimed at the spot <using the knife, I was able to go "blade against blade" with this weapon and force it down It was upheld by a multilayered energy structure, which I also started cutting up into its segments to remove. When examining it, it turned out being the abortion industry of Europe. Fully logical considering above mentioned things. But here comes the context: This thing was directly shown in the anime, as the crescent moon weapon being used to block the ultimate sword cut by this samurai, one of the 7 world bosses. The images were identical to what had to be done to block and remove this energy formation.
>>17954 It makes me wonder how much around me is even regular society.On the surface i live in the apex of western "elite" society. But in reality it seems more of a vampire(in past timelines)/reptilian base.Perhaps blunting how bad my environment is. And yeah i did say i left the weakness intact, by my instinct i wanted to remove it. But the loli you say is the "resistant" loli said that in doing so i wouldn't give you the chance to fix it yourself. Which was fair.Given how i had already taken down the negative structure above you (seemingly the mosques) the issue had passed the "pressing" threshold and was now a regular karmic effect/weakness. Which almost everybody has to an extent. Later i also cleaned myself. There seemed to be a "trust" there as in 2 different times i saw a weakness in one of "your" souls/incarnations and either fixed it or tried.I actually noticed this when i first met the loli and cleansed her a bit.Since it always has to do with cleansing a weakness, which only a similarly capable being can do. Tbf i would normally not do so either, i can see how it can be seen as "bad" or mean to do so. But this one felt i had to something about it. It also felt related to "europe" in some way. Which i think i was seeing was the black knife being hostile to "europe".Thats the reality about someone this widespread in ability. A negative structure (in my perception) controlling such a being can only exist for a while, after a while ill have to clean it or fight it.I cleaned an enormous amount of europe and especially my area later that day. Since letting it exist around me is just bad.And i think i got rid of the responsible cia base in europe too.
>>17954 One more reply, i do wonder what you did will do to the physical reality of it. Since people are still doing that stuff, the nasty energy will start back up right? Or will it become less popular? Idk. You would think all the cleansings are having an efffect,plus more and more people being fundamentally "fixed" wether by reptillian or other things. But then again there is inertia and physical life having continuity.
>>17956 Here is my blog: I fought some resistant soul who kep getting stronger,more wicked every time he was cut down. Eventually i got them for good but they were revived. Eventually instead of slugging it out with them I had a positve mentality and light energy came out of me. I told the being, now looking like a humanoid with a black horse face and long neck, that it would never be able to harm me.
>>17955 In short and plain language, there is no way for someone to externally fix a weakness spelled as >lack of ability as that ability has to arise from fighting reality. This event was a fundamental test for me, so I don't think someone externally could have cleansed this thing at all. What I didn't mention is that the story in the anime also included a guild of PKers called Ashura Kai, who seemed to represent Islamic terrorists or extremists, they had already fought the samurai with all of them but failed. Which is the image of how djinn had used their crescent moon sickle to try and block the sword which is killing babies, but were only partially successful. This being why they called in the birdman (Thot, or someone practicing transformation magic - me?). What you would be able to remove would be what aspects you would perceive as maybe dirty energy, but in this case that involved the djinn weapon which although it was made from evil energy, it was used to attack the abortion industry using Islamic extremism, which can make women not kill their babies. So one negative thing to fight another. Things tend to "play out" as conversations like this, but in the end this is only the reasonable "logic" for why you didn't try to cleanse it, a sense of "I gave up" shown this way, because 1) it wasn't your dimension 2) it wasn't your task but you have to accept not doing it by some kind of logic, so the conversation happened. I think that's how it is, based on other events where someone had to go through a series of events simply to reach the conclusion I thought was the answer to begin with, but they didn't see.
>>17958 There have also been times when I refrained from doing something because I >felt lazy but it turned out I had misunderstood the situation completely, and if I hadn't "been lazy" my involvement would have been super bad.
>>17959 Maybe I should try to make longer posts and not do these self-reply chains There was one time I had the idea: why is it that the CCP doesn't have Islamists attacking them, wouldn't that be able to harm them. This was when I was still involved with FG and trying to removed the evil of the CCP (before it was cleansed). I used this aim when sending karmic retribution using the standard procedure, which lead to an event which became fairly well known because of its consequences: Uyghur extremists attacked a train station with knives and cut down all Chinese they found - except two, who were FG practitioners. This part at least shows my aim isn't bad in principle. I saw the experience sharing articles from those two online. One of them had a sudden urge to visit the restroom, and when they got back out everyone on the train station was dead. Another was in the main waiting hall and couldn't escape, but reacted to the approaching extremists by standing perfectly still, eyes closed firm and hands in heishi (palms together) until everything turned silent. When they opened their eyes again, everyone else in the waiting room was dead. This did not have the intended effect at all in the greater perspective, even if the result was positive: The CCP reacted by putting Uygurs in camps and in the process ending CIA funding of Islamic terror, which a former CIA chief later admitted had been funnelled to Uyghurs, and that CIA was behind all Islamic terror in China. So it ended up just putting the CCP spotlight on foreign terrorism, but I feel like the idea probably wasn't my own here either. I don't know who benefited the most from this, but it wasn't CIA, who hadn't been on my mind at all. Sometimes it seems we're just channelling forces to serve some greater good unknowingly.
>>17960 So by this I mean to say, that it's more important that the principles used are pure and simple in themselves, then the effect will be good. Rather than trying to use some specific, in this case political, angle.
>>17960 >>17961 What is karmic retribution anyway? Maybe the real karmic retribution hit the Uyghurs and CIA.
>>17957 It seems the merchant greys sell breeding programs quite cheap if you just want to produce a certain type and not effect society forward. I contacted them and asked about it, they said to produce a specific type of pleiadan today, would cost 24 000 silver in federation units + 1800 years of untouched historic timelines, and they'll be ready "now". Producing a natural version of the "resistant loli" to cleanse the world, would take 3600 years. Because creating backwards parallel timelines is fairly simple, I decided to try this a bit, with good results. What the greys are normally doing is <pushing plans which means they walk alongside it as it evolves, for research. Then it takes the full time in your own time, so you need real autistic grey mentality for this. Also if you want to direct society as a whole, this is the way. If it's a <pulling plan, where the development is placed in history instead, then you get the results instantly seen from local time, but it can't change history.
>>17954 I just felt the presence of another, weaker spike-ish weapon of the same kind, and another detail which I did notice on the first one but didn't see the full scope of - a black string which I just cut off the first time. But it's a very sneakily shaped black net in the background, so naturally shaped that it's almost impossible to spot it. It stretched out all over Europe and each country incorporated into the EU also had this abortion industry weapon with an "arm" connected to it. UK who left the EU does not have it. There are remnants of it, but they're just harmless parts which are already cut up in bits. I'm using neet's method for cleansing as I learned it from the mushroom university to remove the net. It appears to exist in every EU member state, possibly it's installed before an EU inclusion vote is held to make sure it leads to the nation joining. I'm going to dissolve this thing everywhere now. Will be interesting to see the effects on Moldavia which seems like the next victim in line for EU grooming.
>>17967 This net appears to be of satanic nature.
>>17960 Weird. Some while after making this post, a new kind of egregore connected with me. It has a rather strong red horizontal energy, at first I thought it was hostile and there was some unpleasant energy involved which gave indications of a possible attack. But I couldn't tell it was, and the direction of energy didn't feel like it was aimed at me. Then followed a few localized energy explosions, and a connection was made forming a T where the rising "hostile" energy turned white, meeting the top "roof" which was red, and it appeared the explosions were negative energy concentrations in the form of 2 -3 small concentrated spheres which had been in the way. After those blew up, the feeling of hostility subsided. I den noticed from the egregore someone wearing black pointy shoes...
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>>17757 After reading this book, I had some strange experiences that made me doubt my beliefs and limiting beliefs. I don't know if it was just that I temporarily acquired a paranoid mindset or that I began to observe or be more attentive to phenomena that I hadn't paid attention to before or that weren't there, or if some force from outer space contacted me. Whatever it was, I think I became agnostic because too many coincidences happened, and I can only attribute them to the book, as they happened immediately the next day and the days after i was reading the book. I was told to read Valis for the same effect, but I don't know if it will shatter what little sanity I have left, the creator and father of the matrix was apparently, contacting forces from outer space. >Also Maybe I managed to tune into something without realizing it, hence the title of the book, Cosmic Trigger. Or maybe I've just lost my fucking mind. anyway, cool read.
>>17968 I cleansed it, and similarly to the black network of mosques, this thing appears to be just some evil version of rosicrucianism. It's not supporting the EU, quite the opposite. It was the same with this one, "rosicrucian jews", probably MI6, have been trying to destroy the EU, which should be a good thing, but they themselves are so toxic, arrogant and ruthless that everything they do ends up negative in all directions. Cleansing this net doesn't destroy it, it transforms it. I wonder what kind of physical representation there is of this, if the other one were mosques? Are they churches, lodges, synagogues?
>>18139 When dealing with the actual evil structure, the abortion industry and those arms with weapons, I managed to cut down every single one of them, which probably motivated the egregore sending all those evil spirits out to find some way to reconnect. I sat down and did the FG cleansing practice, then followed up with a long session of exercise 5 to transform the negative energy which was still incoming even after I cleared up all negative structures within my reach. It was a long time since I was able to "surf the waves" like this using FG, where I could actually just rise up by doing an exercise like this. It seems the method really does hold up if it's done very correctly within the narrow frame where it's effective. I was able to break through a serious blockage which appeared from this egregore, and a transformation was initiated with the physical source being between my shoulder blades, to then gradually form a large dark blue and white orb of energy in my abdominal area as it was refined.
>>18140 After this I was able to subdue the incoming evil spirits and force them to support me, by blocking all other avenues of access to the world. It seems this finally worked out, it's a thing I've been trying to do for a long time; forcing them to walk in the first line, so that they become motivated to not cause problems anymore, as it will only hit themselves first if they do.
>>18140 Now that I'm looking internally back at what I did, it appears the same level breakthrough to a solid principle, I already achieved long ago. It was just in a setting there I didn't realize it, and it had to be transformed into various other forms, using different methods. It sounds kind of silly to say it, but right now it looks like the main fundamental thing that started my process was mastering a single judo technique, the big hip throw. Although I learned the basics of falling and floor work, I kept feeling judo was too dangerous, and after I had learned this one thing properly I decided this isn't for me, so I never went back again. I had started with the intent to learn ju-jutsu, but found the classes to be void of any real fun. The club consisted of 8 bulky guys where more than half where in the police or army, and did this only to use it in their work. This experience was similar though, and here I was aware of what I did and why I felt I didn't belong there after: it felt impossible to fight these guys, and the choke outs and arm locks were just nasty to me. The energy of the place wasn't good. I just ended up mentally paralyzed and unable to fight back - until one day something suddenly clicked and I was able to pull off the groundfighing moves correctly, where the coach toned down his resistance to see if I would be able to do them right, and I got him in a lock. After that I never had that "paralyze" mental reaction anymore, and I lost interest in going there after a while. Looking back at that time, I knew that was what I came for, and I never had a need to train grappling again after this. Principles like this transfer to other parts of life in a subtle way, and this one event would keep resurfacing over and over again, which I suppose is because of its magnitude on a principled plane. I only started doing FG for real after this, so maybe I should recommend people to learn zen through judo as a first step?
I am currently trying to quit video games. I am going to replace it with reading. Both fiction and non fiction. Worried I might lose my one friend because he likes to game.
>>18151 Good thing your friend also likes reading
>>18169 >>18170 >>18171 >>18172 >>18173 >>18176 *le sigh* Aren't autists supposed to be good at putting shit where it belongs?
>>18180 Those are just limited comments on blog posts.
This morning Samael said >there are now 18 days left on your stay I asked if it wasn't 2 months to start with, but he said >at most, but you used up more time when changing things, so the energy/time was spent then I go on /x/ and they've now come up with a new date: October 21 I went for a walk just now and there was a "thing" on the sky to the south-west. Two energy pillars, clearly visible in the distance. Samael then said >that's the gate with the implication that time is a structure out there physically, so this gate will have arrived at my location in 18 days.
>>18180 Just admit already that splitting these threads was a mistake. If you have to play hall monitor to force people into posting where they don't want to, then the experiment has failed.
>>18184 OP here. It still works. It's still far from failure. Was thinking about making a chatroom thread for those two lol, but didn't want to disturb them by being obtuse. They had important energy exchange with those posts. And I won't bother people for practicing their magic on fringe And it was not a "hard rule" (to blog only in the blog thread) just a mere "direction". That way it will be more readable and topical. You can ask people to explain and expand on their blog posts in the blog thread if you feel it's necessary. It's the poster's decision if they bring the discussion into this thread to keep the blog thread clean or they parley a little in the blog thread. Ofc I would like if they could keep the blog thread clean, but if they are able to limit the discussion to 1 or 2 replies then it's still okay.
FUCK. I CAN’T TAKE IT ANY LONGER. THE CRAVINGS. IT’S BEEN FIVE DAYS WITHOUT VIDEOGAMES. I’M GOING TO GO ON A CIVILIZATION AND PARADOX GAME BINGE. I DESERVE TO DIE.
>>18189 See, this is why asceticism doesn't work. Just enjoy yourself to a reasonable degree and if you really think your vices are hurting you, figure out why so that you can integrate them in a way that's healthy.
>>18189 You should take a more gradual approach to your gaming addiction.
>>18189 >IT’S BEEN FIVE DAYS WITHOUT VIDEOGAMES That's an achievement already fren. Don't feel too bad about it. Even when I am taking my practice seriously, I rarely go more than a week without playing video games either. Digital entertainment calms my nerves more than anything. It is far more relaxing than arguing with retards on the internet in some cases >>18194 ye >>18199 Nah. It comes in phases. Sometimes you realize that video games are fucking retarded and cannot compare to spiritual pursuits and achievements... then in other cases life or your visions become so chaotic... that you just want some good ol video game and relax. Also 4x games and their 'one more turn' addiction is not easy to overcome. They are still better than shooters tho. 4x games forces you to think, while shooters turn you into a dopamine junkie, especially online ones full with retards
>>18204 I'm not a gamer and all caps posts scare me.
>>18222 >since its like a language your ability to do additions and subtractions should be near infinite. Explain what you mean? Just because you know a language, you can't suddenly write a good novel, or a scientific paper. It's just not a long line of random syntactic elements added one after another, you need a meta layer of understanding also, and those are your mental muscles here.
>>18224 For comparison to what I said to illustrate it: <if you want to deadlift 200 kg, just lift it like it was 250 grams over and over again You see how that doesn't work?
>>18224 When i do math i strain because i consciously have to figure it out, you wouldn't have the strain. 2+2 is just 4.Well to me too because its simple. But 134785983-24518 to me would take a while. But if its like reading to you the answer will appear to you out of nowhere.Or is it that you need to keep reading equations and passively it improves over time. Ah so like a physical skill then.
>>18226 >Everybody always talks smack about whites This is also a very boring and tiring angle. It's not different from jews always yelling about "anti-semitism" when they do something bad and get criticism. Not everything is about criticising your group, sometimes it's about the actions of an individual or their organization. Being unable to separate these is monkey tier.
>>18224 You know whats funny is i never grinded math at all, hence why doing it took to long. I was always "lazy" since i understood the math conceptually. It shows were my weakness was.In general i wouldn't practice skills like that ever. But in language it wasn't relevant. Maybe cause i spent a lot of time reading anyway.
>>18229 >134785983-24518 134785983 -24518 13 - 8 = 5, the 8 reduced to 7, 7 - 1 = 6 that gives 65 as the first 2 numbers 9 - 5 = 4 5 - 4 = 1 8 - 2 = 6 res just moved down so its 134761465 I didn't think about anything doing this, I just wrote it down. If I had practiced more, I wouldn't need to write it, because I'd see the numbers by visualization instead. I hope that explains it.
>>18230 I might just be retard tier then, to me ive heard it so much from liberals and people online i just get really angry. But also i cant subdivide whites the way you can. I cant even differentiate what you see as reptillian and a white person. To then subdivide them according to dna types among mushrooms is even more crazy. All i can do is what one looks like. That is where it stops. And even then i lived my whole life being mostly fine among people who "look like whites" that its hard to be "against" them.At least in the sense of wanting them to be replaced.Especially since i'm still "white" to the best of my ability to detect it. I have no idea what my prior race "brown hat" mushrooms are even like so i cant conceptualize myself as being part of it. I can only see myself as a "european" in that sense. And then more specifically the region within europe and such.
>>18232 Very interesting, you do seem really great at this kind of math.
>>18232 But this is so strange to me, i would do 3-8 first. or maybe 8-2.
>>18234 This is 6th grade maths. It's basics. >>18235 >would do 3-8 first And you can't do that because 3 is smaller than 8, so you need to borrow 1 from the next number, turning into 13. Which is why the 8 turns into a 7. It's really 80, so you borrow 10 turning into 70, that's how you can do this without going into the negative.
>>18236 Heres the issue, i didnt really look at the problem and assumed you had taken the 13 from the beginning of the first number, i thought "what kind of strange common core thing is this". We solve things the same way, but i do have think to do it.like even a simple thing like 13-8 could have me make a mistake if do it too fast. In my mind i do. 8-3 = 5 then 10 - 5 = 5 I had lost all my ability to do math quickly, so even though as a kid this stuff was very simple to me i had to relearn it. In the past 2 days ive gotten better,but not as good as i was. Which was apparently really good. Apparently a teacher said i was the best at math she had ever seen. Now im so far below average its insane. However i do know i never managed to get subdivision down easily. Since i had never practiced it. My way of solving them was just to keep doing multiplication until i found the right one. Since i was good at math back then this kinda worked.
>>18233 I understand that happens when you can't see energy types, BUT I couldn't see this either until just a few years ago, and I never had that problem. I've never thought >wow I hate white people because I don't see "white people". I hated certain individuals or certain places. I may call them "stupid idiots" and "dregs" but I would never relate that to any concept of race or skin colour. And no, this isn't because "everyone was white", because they weren't. As I've already told many times. Rather the opposite, and I've never been able to understand what their problem is, until now. So I do know now that it's genetic. But that's only after I learned how to determine racial categories by energy reading. I just don't see how I'd reach the conclusion that mere appearance would be an indicator of what a person is like. Some cats bite, even if they are cute.
>>18237 Like i just cant 13-8 = 5 in an instant. I takes about 1 second. A few days ago this took like 3 seconds. It seems you have to practice until you can do it instantly. But there is no in between at all.You probably are way faster then. In india everyone learns this.But they use an acabus. And then a model acabus. I guess you could learn the skill but skip the acabus.
>>18237 >In my mind i do. 8-3 = 5 then 10 - 5 = 5 I avoid things like this like the plague, even looking at this is a cognito hazard imo. It would interfere with my ability to just solve it naturally.
>>18238 I feel like you can read people by their appearance to a degree though? there is a guy on tiktok who does only that. Reading peoples faces, by facial features. Idk i just think everthing is linked. I actually didnt see myself as white either until my late teens. But i did see myself as my local ethnicity. When people from other countries came in they called us "white" and whites called each other white. When i see people talking bad about "whites" that would include me also. Since i appear white to them also. So naturally the perception is created of being a part of a race, and naturally working together within the race is an idea that makes sense.
>>18240 Isnt this then just pure memory then? You simply memorized all interactions between digits. But thats kinda crazy. It would have to be between 99 and 99. So 2 digits per number max. Since that is the minimum to do the type of math you did.
>>18241 Which also goes against "class warfare" and is a type of socialism in that way.
>>18242 "There are 8100 possible subtractions between two 2-digit numbers because there are 90 possible 2-digit numbers (10-99), and you can choose the first number in 90 ways and the second number in 90 ways, resulting in 90 * 90 = 8100 combinations" Maybe you memorized all of these.
>>18239 There was a culture at my school from early on where me and some other kids would memorize multiplication tables and challenge each other to read them by heart on the breaktime. We also used the tiles next to the drinking fountain to do multiplications on. It was like a minigame put there. I don't need to think because I know them up to 10 * 10. Some would learn them up to 12 * 12 but I never went that far.
>>18238 Ah i think i remember where our thinking diverged. When i saw people treating whites cruelly, and black people and everyone else talking about their race and people shitting on whites as a whole for the actions of some whites I realized at the time whites around me didnt do this (to a degree they do now ofcourse) and realized this puts us at a disadvantage. I realized "not seeing color is fine and dandy but this isnt how the world works apparently" and saw things through a more racial lense. Even a lot of "injustices" of the past are really just people still angry that their race was defeated by another. Thats why people dont care about "inter race" conflict like what you hear people bring up in sudan.Its cliche but it is true. If jews hadnt been seen as white people would stop caring quick about that war. Had whites looked the same as native americans for example, or been the same race. There wouldnt have been people bringing up the genocide back then today to anywhere near the same degree. Cruel, but true.This is how humans are afaik. Its about their racial instinct making them root for their "people" and thus hating the "invaders". Same thing as whites here today honestly. To not have this instinct is honestly the exception. Other than elites who also lack it clearly.So i cant hate whites for acting like this and excuse the rest for doing the same thing, its to me evil in that its dishonest.Maybe thats my autism.
>>18242 >Isnt this then just pure memory then? You simply memorized all interactions between digits. >>18244 Not really? Up to the point when you add single digits, it's natural to memorize, so 7 + 7 is 14 and so on up to 9 + 9 = 18. You don't need to memorize beyond that because it's just the same thing with some added 10s on it. Other things would be related to the muliplication tables and how computers work, where it's normal to have memorized 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2096 at least. It's not like I put any effort into this, it just comes naturally to repeat them to myself now and then like when thinking of nothing. I kind wish I'd gone further, but I didn't have the capacity for that naturally.
>>18245 I do think this means a limitation for you. Since if you don't have it practiced and mastered you cant even try it. Whereas i still can, it will just take really long. In theory there is nothing preventing me from learning the way you do (i think) but since i do things "manually" (where i always kinda redo the calculations in my head) i never had to practice that much. Other than with multiplication. Where it was too hard if you hadnt memorized. I also memorized but over time that skill left me as well. Mind you i became more stupid over time. I already noticed this at 17. Where i had gained skills but i wasn't any smarter than at 12. So relatively speaking i had become dumber.Later i started actually becoming dumber, once i stopped going to school.
>>18247 See I even got that wrong.
It's 1024 2048 4096
>>18248 >if you don't have it practiced and mastered you cant even try it. What do you mean? It's not like my ability to start from scratch doesn't exist, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to learn. But there are only so many basics to learn in every area, what excuse do you have to not memorize them when you start learning? Just do it and it's done. If you don't have education, you don't have the skill.
>>18248 Some people consider me really smart because they remember what i was like back then, thinking i can do the same thing. Now in truth im still about "as smart" since i was always more intuitive and never really cared for things requiring "high bandwith" or lors of processing. But i was good at it and average where not and lost it and became terrible. I remember there was some test monkeys were better at than humans. It involved memorizing rapidly. When i took it i was quite far ahead of even the monkeys and way ahead of the humans of the study. Like 0.001 percentile. But a few days ago i did the same test and im in the bottom one percent. Going from remembering the entire field to struggling to do 3.(out of like 20)
>>18251 I guess i didn't have an excuse, i just hated it. I was one of those people who just got by anyway. I remember really mastering the table of 6 in particular. I like it for some reason. Some of the others like 7 it would always take a couple seconds, often times having to calculate it myself. Yet it had never crossed my mind to bring them all to that level.I simply didn't like doing that kinda stuff.
>>18246 >When i saw people treating whites cruelly, and black people and everyone else talking about their race and people shitting on whites My reaction to this kind of thinking is the same as with the maths you described. This is a cognito hazard. It's insane reasoning I don't want to read beyond the first words. I don't see >whites being treated cruelly or any such category, and I don't see or hear anyone ever talking like that, unless they are white supremacists, and those people are not to be associated with. They're fanatics with tattoos and illegal guns who'll end up in jail most of their life. So I'll stop any association with that thinking instantly.
>>18254 yeah but isnt this just sticking your head in the sand?
>>18255 Funny thing is your view seems so fragile to me, it hinges on only whites thinking this way. And anything else is a "hazard.". Actually people even say soccer is a sort of replacement for inter tribal conflict. I mentally broke down my prior way of viewing things, it was painful but that's how hardcore i am about seeing what people are like. But its fine, i cannot consider you a peer on this. More like a fine tuned computer wrapped around plastic in an air filtered environment. Less dirty perhaps, yes.But also less "real" in that sense. I shouldt try to "teach" you.Perhaps there is no way to know what i do and be "sane".
>>18253 It's not like it's instant, I have to recall them actively, but it's not like I have to calculate anything. Some of them are more troublesome by nature because the numbers are uneven in some way, is just my perception. I guess I just learned a lot of "heuristics" or "rules of thumb" like how the 5 table is a reference point because you can relate it to regular calculations in various ways. Like 5 * 7 is 35, 35 * 2 is 70, and you can skip to something like 7 + 7 = 14 and 70 + 70 = 140, forming a kind of ecosystem or landscape of numbers.
>>18256 Which is the worldview i dislike. Racism is only "white people". Its just shoving your dirty weaknesses unto a foreign people.
>>18258 Meaning people that say racism is a white thing, thats what i dislike. Its already racist in itself for one.
>>18259 But i realized making people not be racist isn't gonna happen.So i adapted. If they could be not be racist they wouldnt say these things like "only whites are racist". That shows people cant not be racist at all.So i have to try and get the next best thing.
>>18255 If you think not talking about some blue cactus you see floating in the sky which no one else sees, as "sticking your head in the sand", then you'll soon find yourself wearing a straitjacket.
>>18256 >your view seems so fragile to me, it hinges on only whites thinking this way It hinges on "made up thing only I see", is all I read here. Again, it's a cognito hazard to follow this reasoning. So I won't do it.
>>18261 Its not a blue cactus though? If you deny something thats real you are the one thats crazy. To me this just exposes a weakness, if you cant even entertain it might be real. How does that even make sense. This idea that people cant be racist. Or is racism a white only thing to you?
>>18262 What is the made up thing? People being racist?
>>18262 You either saying racism isnt real or saying only white people can be racist.
>>18265 Neither are real or true.
>>18263 Yes, when I see someone talking about something which doesn't exist, and repeats over and over that it's real, it's just an insane person. And I've shared a student dorm with such a person. He smoked cannabis and did all sorts of drugs, and he talked like that all the time. Like complete nonsense sentences which he explained as "if you say them out loud, they stop being dangerous", so he'd go on about the blue cactus. I learned to shut off my brain to not take in things like that.
>>18267 What isn't real though, tell me.
>>18268 No, because I don't want to entertain the idea of the blue cactus, that would just wear on my mind and make me insane too.
>>18267 Maybe? This also how someone brainwashed reacts btw. Feeling threatened by something that might attack their belief.
>>18269 Gotcha you've built your foundation on some premise, to question it is to lose everything.
>>18271 I just see that the energy of this thing you are promoting isn't connected to anything I want to follow. I also learned about the dangers of ideas in Falun Gong. Ideas themselves contain energy, and can let various spirits in to possess you.
>>18272 Religious people have to struggle with "doubt", which I never had. But there is another level where you need to also maintain what you are thinking about, and why.
>>18272 But what is this thing? Anyway its functional what you say, like a computer in a sterilized lab.
>>18270 To relate this back to FG, it's directly explained that if you even read a book from a different esoteric practice, it may harm your cultivation process until you reach Arhat level. It's not really different to this.
>>18274 In contrast i guess im more of a detective, yeah it might be a hazard and i might get dirty. But its also the only chance to learn something outside of this "lab" you put yourself in. Its effective no doubt, what you did, it cant take you all the way i think. Eventually you will get out, maybe not in this life then.
>>18276 What you're saying is on the level of >why not drop the computer in this septic tank, what are you afraid of
>>18271 He's never ever going to be willing to question the foundation of his hatred and zealotry no matter how much you try to engage with him. I tried this myself on Sunflower, though with a less submissive tone than you. He just permabanned me for it. Even now he's dehumanizing you and assuming that you're being possessed by some sort of demon rather than allowing you the dignity of having your own opinion that differs from his. He's refusing to even acknowledge what the point you're making is. People like this don't engage in good faith, and trying to open a dialog with them like this is a waste of time. I learned that a while ago. You can keep beating away at this wall if you want but I guarantee you that he is not going to entertain any logic-based argument that calls his faith into question. He's beyond words.
>>18275 Okay but then dont tell me it doesnt exist. Its prompting me to explain it which you dont want. Just accept you are in your lab and im outside. Stupid of me perhaps, but its is who i am already.
>>18278 Not going to read this, this poster is himself a cognito hazard.
>>18279 There is a limit to your thinking, and it will be reached eventually. Again maybe not in this life.It does lead to a nasty bias if you think only white supremacists exists and not black supremacists for example.
>>18281 That's the subtle evil people don't address today.
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>>18279 I think I have enough view on the thing now to be able to cleanse it, now that this other poster appeared. He only does that when I've resisted this hostile egregore to a high degree. >>18281 >>18282 This is the Illuminati divide program taking effect. Just because you had your DNA updated, things aren't instantly uninstalled at once, there are levels of control. Talking beyond this point will just make the programming take over more. Later.
>>18282 I think i get it. There hasn't been someone who could actually be honest and see things as they are and have clean energy or create a functioning system.Since seeing things as they are requires a certain capacity plus it tends to make people insane.So people learned "don't go outside or you will get dirty, stay in this box" which is good advice. Unles you really are determined to go all the way. In which case the box will prevent you. You need take the "hit" and make it the other way around again.Far surpassing either alternative. So far people have only done one or the other. Maybe it does explain communism, which didn't make sense once i actually read into marx.So its kinda like a "religion" that way were zealotry patches up the holes.Hence why they equate capitalism with "everything bad" in a way that isn't accurate to the actual meaning. A religion tends to have a devil.Now in my view communists are kinda close,especially compared to say liberals today, and for example china doesn't really do anything really wrong and are even closer. But that's because they are pragmatic in nature which fixes the flaws by not caring about it.Hence why i see china as the "best" but also get annoyed when liberals use it as another rant against "capitalism" which means about as much as "facism" does to them. meaning whatever they feel like at that moment.
>>18285 People aren't able to think based in reality at all.That's interesting and kinda scary.
The fact that I'm a failed normalfag and not a truewiz destroys me. I see so many people on wizard chan who genuinely don't want any social interaction and probably don't even make facial expressions tier of introversion and here I am craving social interaction.
>>18288 >here I am craving social interaction. Wanna talk about it? lol On an another note. Entities around you might want to talk to you. This desire might serve as a connection mechanism that establishes the link for otherworldly communication. Look into that desire deeper and try to "see" or feel who you want to talk to and what you wish to talk about. If you can't sense anything at first then go and talk to randos or sg. Sometimes it's better to entertain a desire than let yourself tortured by it all the time. Desiring human interaction especially in your youth is normal. Only burnout and broken people lose that craving by default.
>>18290 Do you desire social interaction?
>>18292 I rarely do. I have to deal with people on a daily basis. Small talk was never my forte. The point of my previous post was. These minor desires can be tired out quite fast. Talking to people was always a landmine check in my youth. The only reason I can do it proficiently nowadays, because I can read most people well enough, and know how to be pleasant. It's a skill you can also master if you really care about others. To understand how they think and feel. Notice the conversational opportunities then make bonds with people. There are different types of social interactions. Depends which you want. You want to hang out? Do you want to hear about the other person's life and opinions? Or you just want to rant about video games and the jews. You will have to find the people you want to interact with. Most people rarely worth interacting with. And talking about magic with normalfags is borderline impossible. If you take the magic route, you will notice that you can only talk about mundane things with mundanes. And when you talk about magic with those who show interest in it there is always a moderate chance you might scare them if you are too deep in the rabbit hole already. Decide which type of interactions you want. I like fringe because I have a desire to talk about magic. But there are stuff I can't bring up even here. Not because it's a secret or too personal, but because it's too weird and out of the world.
Threatening evil spirits with hell, doesn't work, because they don't see a threat. They see their ideal lifestyle. Having their mental and physical capacities slowly degraded over time, until they die, and remain in the grave forever after. They think that's the ideal life. They don't understand that spiritual death is the most horrible outcome for anyone, so when told that this will happen do them, they just smirk and say >bring it on then! Then they spin in a circle downwards until they die, with a smug expression on their face, as if they tricked someone stupid, until they fall face first into the grave, and their senses are silenced. Unable to experience anything again, they experience unending terror in isolation, because they still have hunger, lust, cravings for attention, the desire for material ownership and power. When showing this process to an evil spirit to make them refrain from doing this, they will just arrogantly say: >that's life, I'm going to indulge in it as long as I can, what happens after isn't my concern This way it seems as if the modern world was created by evil spirits, for evil spirits. But in reality, it was manifested because they wouldn't listen to advice, warnings or threats. So the modern world is punishment.


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