I used a not AI or similar painting like pic for the OP, so doozy posters won't mix up the discussion thread with the proper blog thread >>13990 by accident. The discussion/blog distinction helped the threads it seems. More than half of the posts in the blog thread were proper and everyone understood it's purpose. While the discussion thread lasted for almost 2 months. The quality of the posts improved this way in both threads too. Let's have a quality discussion again!Or at least let's try to have something resembling it

The joke of ridiculous synchronicities continues. >>17746 >I came up with a Pleiadan inspired crystallic space station Right after I created and shared this with neet, I see this in Shangri-la Frontier which I'm watching for the first time now. This anime also had a weapon in it, the vorpal cutter knife, which could be created with ease as an astral artifact suitable for my abyss bunny familiar after just seeing it. I summoned the bunny from the void earlier this year, using a remaining bunny egregore which had been following me around after I had a bunny pet in an MMOs 10+ years ago. The energy of the pet from the game remained, so I used it for the summoning to manifest a real spirit instead. Then the mc of the anime gets a bunny NPC companion here, after using said weapon. Again, things are apparently ridiculously predictable down to details like this. Nothing I do seem to actually be my own ideas, I'm just following along a railroad laid out in advance. Just as in the anime, this bunny pet was from a special event, I won it in a drawing contest on the game forum.

>>17761 @neet Because I don't expect anyone else to follow, but it's a continuation of the previous discussion: Neet saw a black net with an attached chain and weapon which seemed to be lodged into my gut. When looking at it, my djinn said the net was a network of mosques in Europe, and the chain and sickle weapon was a djinn weapon used to increase muslim birth rates as a form of generational warfare. In the anime Shangri-la Frontier >pic (manga because it shows the weapons) which I'm just now watching, they spend 4 episodes on the boss battle against an undead samurai called Whetermon the Tombguard > next pic the winning condition is to fight him through 3 phases, then block his ultimate sword technique, causing his sword to break. The mc, wearing a bird mask (Thoth reference?) uses an "evolved" version of the bunny weapon, now shaped as a crescent moon to block his attack and win. In the past days, as posted in another thread, I developed a knife artifact for channelling the material power of Ein Sof using kabbalah methodology. I spent 2 days on the creation and testing, before getting to the thing I meant to use it for, which was to subdue the horribly negative egregore of society around myself. When I began this process I divined its structure based on the knife's ability to find the weakness to cut, and found that <the location in my gut, where the djinn sickle (crescent moon shape) had been stuck <it had been stuck there when trying to block a black pike-like energy weapon which was aimed at the spot <using the knife, I was able to go "blade against blade" with this weapon and force it down It was upheld by a multilayered energy structure, which I also started cutting up into its segments to remove. When examining it, it turned out being the abortion industry of Europe. Fully logical considering above mentioned things. But here comes the context: This thing was directly shown in the anime, as the crescent moon weapon being used to block the ultimate sword cut by this samurai, one of the 7 world bosses. The images were identical to what had to be done to block and remove this energy formation.

>>17954 It makes me wonder how much around me is even regular society.On the surface i live in the apex of western "elite" society. But in reality it seems more of a vampire(in past timelines)/reptilian base.Perhaps blunting how bad my environment is. And yeah i did say i left the weakness intact, by my instinct i wanted to remove it. But the loli you say is the "resistant" loli said that in doing so i wouldn't give you the chance to fix it yourself. Which was fair.Given how i had already taken down the negative structure above you (seemingly the mosques) the issue had passed the "pressing" threshold and was now a regular karmic effect/weakness. Which almost everybody has to an extent. Later i also cleaned myself. There seemed to be a "trust" there as in 2 different times i saw a weakness in one of "your" souls/incarnations and either fixed it or tried.I actually noticed this when i first met the loli and cleansed her a bit.Since it always has to do with cleansing a weakness, which only a similarly capable being can do. Tbf i would normally not do so either, i can see how it can be seen as "bad" or mean to do so. But this one felt i had to something about it. It also felt related to "europe" in some way. Which i think i was seeing was the black knife being hostile to "europe".Thats the reality about someone this widespread in ability. A negative structure (in my perception) controlling such a being can only exist for a while, after a while ill have to clean it or fight it.I cleaned an enormous amount of europe and especially my area later that day. Since letting it exist around me is just bad.And i think i got rid of the responsible cia base in europe too.

>>17954 One more reply, i do wonder what you did will do to the physical reality of it. Since people are still doing that stuff, the nasty energy will start back up right? Or will it become less popular? Idk. You would think all the cleansings are having an efffect,plus more and more people being fundamentally "fixed" wether by reptillian or other things. But then again there is inertia and physical life having continuity.

>>17956 Here is my blog: I fought some resistant soul who kep getting stronger,more wicked every time he was cut down. Eventually i got them for good but they were revived. Eventually instead of slugging it out with them I had a positve mentality and light energy came out of me. I told the being, now looking like a humanoid with a black horse face and long neck, that it would never be able to harm me.

>>17955 In short and plain language, there is no way for someone to externally fix a weakness spelled as >lack of ability as that ability has to arise from fighting reality. This event was a fundamental test for me, so I don't think someone externally could have cleansed this thing at all. What I didn't mention is that the story in the anime also included a guild of PKers called Ashura Kai, who seemed to represent Islamic terrorists or extremists, they had already fought the samurai with all of them but failed. Which is the image of how djinn had used their crescent moon sickle to try and block the sword which is killing babies, but were only partially successful. This being why they called in the birdman (Thot, or someone practicing transformation magic - me?). What you would be able to remove would be what aspects you would perceive as maybe dirty energy, but in this case that involved the djinn weapon which although it was made from evil energy, it was used to attack the abortion industry using Islamic extremism, which can make women not kill their babies. So one negative thing to fight another. Things tend to "play out" as conversations like this, but in the end this is only the reasonable "logic" for why you didn't try to cleanse it, a sense of "I gave up" shown this way, because 1) it wasn't your dimension 2) it wasn't your task but you have to accept not doing it by some kind of logic, so the conversation happened. I think that's how it is, based on other events where someone had to go through a series of events simply to reach the conclusion I thought was the answer to begin with, but they didn't see.

>>17958 There have also been times when I refrained from doing something because I >felt lazy but it turned out I had misunderstood the situation completely, and if I hadn't "been lazy" my involvement would have been super bad.

>>17959 Maybe I should try to make longer posts and not do these self-reply chains There was one time I had the idea: why is it that the CCP doesn't have Islamists attacking them, wouldn't that be able to harm them. This was when I was still involved with FG and trying to removed the evil of the CCP (before it was cleansed). I used this aim when sending karmic retribution using the standard procedure, which lead to an event which became fairly well known because of its consequences: Uyghur extremists attacked a train station with knives and cut down all Chinese they found - except two, who were FG practitioners. This part at least shows my aim isn't bad in principle. I saw the experience sharing articles from those two online. One of them had a sudden urge to visit the restroom, and when they got back out everyone on the train station was dead. Another was in the main waiting hall and couldn't escape, but reacted to the approaching extremists by standing perfectly still, eyes closed firm and hands in heishi (palms together) until everything turned silent. When they opened their eyes again, everyone else in the waiting room was dead. This did not have the intended effect at all in the greater perspective, even if the result was positive: The CCP reacted by putting Uygurs in camps and in the process ending CIA funding of Islamic terror, which a former CIA chief later admitted had been funnelled to Uyghurs, and that CIA was behind all Islamic terror in China. So it ended up just putting the CCP spotlight on foreign terrorism, but I feel like the idea probably wasn't my own here either. I don't know who benefited the most from this, but it wasn't CIA, who hadn't been on my mind at all. Sometimes it seems we're just channelling forces to serve some greater good unknowingly.

>>17960 So by this I mean to say, that it's more important that the principles used are pure and simple in themselves, then the effect will be good. Rather than trying to use some specific, in this case political, angle.

>>17960 >>17961 What is karmic retribution anyway? Maybe the real karmic retribution hit the Uyghurs and CIA.

>>17957 It seems the merchant greys sell breeding programs quite cheap if you just want to produce a certain type and not effect society forward. I contacted them and asked about it, they said to produce a specific type of pleiadan today, would cost 24 000 silver in federation units + 1800 years of untouched historic timelines, and they'll be ready "now". Producing a natural version of the "resistant loli" to cleanse the world, would take 3600 years. Because creating backwards parallel timelines is fairly simple, I decided to try this a bit, with good results. What the greys are normally doing is <pushing plans which means they walk alongside it as it evolves, for research. Then it takes the full time in your own time, so you need real autistic grey mentality for this. Also if you want to direct society as a whole, this is the way. If it's a <pulling plan, where the development is placed in history instead, then you get the results instantly seen from local time, but it can't change history.

>>17954 I just felt the presence of another, weaker spike-ish weapon of the same kind, and another detail which I did notice on the first one but didn't see the full scope of - a black string which I just cut off the first time. But it's a very sneakily shaped black net in the background, so naturally shaped that it's almost impossible to spot it. It stretched out all over Europe and each country incorporated into the EU also had this abortion industry weapon with an "arm" connected to it. UK who left the EU does not have it. There are remnants of it, but they're just harmless parts which are already cut up in bits. I'm using neet's method for cleansing as I learned it from the mushroom university to remove the net. It appears to exist in every EU member state, possibly it's installed before an EU inclusion vote is held to make sure it leads to the nation joining. I'm going to dissolve this thing everywhere now. Will be interesting to see the effects on Moldavia which seems like the next victim in line for EU grooming.

>>17967 This net appears to be of satanic nature.

>>17960 Weird. Some while after making this post, a new kind of egregore connected with me. It has a rather strong red horizontal energy, at first I thought it was hostile and there was some unpleasant energy involved which gave indications of a possible attack. But I couldn't tell it was, and the direction of energy didn't feel like it was aimed at me. Then followed a few localized energy explosions, and a connection was made forming a T where the rising "hostile" energy turned white, meeting the top "roof" which was red, and it appeared the explosions were negative energy concentrations in the form of 2 -3 small concentrated spheres which had been in the way. After those blew up, the feeling of hostility subsided. I den noticed from the egregore someone wearing black pointy shoes...

>>17757 After reading this book, I had some strange experiences that made me doubt my beliefs and limiting beliefs. I don't know if it was just that I temporarily acquired a paranoid mindset or that I began to observe or be more attentive to phenomena that I hadn't paid attention to before or that weren't there, or if some force from outer space contacted me. Whatever it was, I think I became agnostic because too many coincidences happened, and I can only attribute them to the book, as they happened immediately the next day and the days after i was reading the book. I was told to read Valis for the same effect, but I don't know if it will shatter what little sanity I have left, the creator and father of the matrix was apparently, contacting forces from outer space. >Also Maybe I managed to tune into something without realizing it, hence the title of the book, Cosmic Trigger. Or maybe I've just lost my fucking mind. anyway, cool read.

>>17968 I cleansed it, and similarly to the black network of mosques, this thing appears to be just some evil version of rosicrucianism. It's not supporting the EU, quite the opposite. It was the same with this one, "rosicrucian jews", probably MI6, have been trying to destroy the EU, which should be a good thing, but they themselves are so toxic, arrogant and ruthless that everything they do ends up negative in all directions. Cleansing this net doesn't destroy it, it transforms it. I wonder what kind of physical representation there is of this, if the other one were mosques? Are they churches, lodges, synagogues?

>>18139 When dealing with the actual evil structure, the abortion industry and those arms with weapons, I managed to cut down every single one of them, which probably motivated the egregore sending all those evil spirits out to find some way to reconnect. I sat down and did the FG cleansing practice, then followed up with a long session of exercise 5 to transform the negative energy which was still incoming even after I cleared up all negative structures within my reach. It was a long time since I was able to "surf the waves" like this using FG, where I could actually just rise up by doing an exercise like this. It seems the method really does hold up if it's done very correctly within the narrow frame where it's effective. I was able to break through a serious blockage which appeared from this egregore, and a transformation was initiated with the physical source being between my shoulder blades, to then gradually form a large dark blue and white orb of energy in my abdominal area as it was refined.

>>18140 After this I was able to subdue the incoming evil spirits and force them to support me, by blocking all other avenues of access to the world. It seems this finally worked out, it's a thing I've been trying to do for a long time; forcing them to walk in the first line, so that they become motivated to not cause problems anymore, as it will only hit themselves first if they do.

>>18140 Now that I'm looking internally back at what I did, it appears the same level breakthrough to a solid principle, I already achieved long ago. It was just in a setting there I didn't realize it, and it had to be transformed into various other forms, using different methods. It sounds kind of silly to say it, but right now it looks like the main fundamental thing that started my process was mastering a single judo technique, the big hip throw. Although I learned the basics of falling and floor work, I kept feeling judo was too dangerous, and after I had learned this one thing properly I decided this isn't for me, so I never went back again. I had started with the intent to learn ju-jutsu, but found the classes to be void of any real fun. The club consisted of 8 bulky guys where more than half where in the police or army, and did this only to use it in their work. This experience was similar though, and here I was aware of what I did and why I felt I didn't belong there after: it felt impossible to fight these guys, and the choke outs and arm locks were just nasty to me. The energy of the place wasn't good. I just ended up mentally paralyzed and unable to fight back - until one day something suddenly clicked and I was able to pull off the groundfighing moves correctly, where the coach toned down his resistance to see if I would be able to do them right, and I got him in a lock. After that I never had that "paralyze" mental reaction anymore, and I lost interest in going there after a while. Looking back at that time, I knew that was what I came for, and I never had a need to train grappling again after this. Principles like this transfer to other parts of life in a subtle way, and this one event would keep resurfacing over and over again, which I suppose is because of its magnitude on a principled plane. I only started doing FG for real after this, so maybe I should recommend people to learn zen through judo as a first step?

I am currently trying to quit video games. I am going to replace it with reading. Both fiction and non fiction. Worried I might lose my one friend because he likes to game.

>>18151 Good thing your friend also likes reading

>>18169 >>18170 >>18171 >>18172 >>18173 >>18176 *le sigh* Aren't autists supposed to be good at putting shit where it belongs?

>>18180 Those are just limited comments on blog posts.

This morning Samael said >there are now 18 days left on your stay I asked if it wasn't 2 months to start with, but he said >at most, but you used up more time when changing things, so the energy/time was spent then I go on /x/ and they've now come up with a new date: October 21 I went for a walk just now and there was a "thing" on the sky to the south-west. Two energy pillars, clearly visible in the distance. Samael then said >that's the gate with the implication that time is a structure out there physically, so this gate will have arrived at my location in 18 days.

>>18180 Just admit already that splitting these threads was a mistake. If you have to play hall monitor to force people into posting where they don't want to, then the experiment has failed.

>>18184 OP here. It still works. It's still far from failure. Was thinking about making a chatroom thread for those two lol, but didn't want to disturb them by being obtuse. They had important energy exchange with those posts. And I won't bother people for practicing their magic on fringe And it was not a "hard rule" (to blog only in the blog thread) just a mere "direction". That way it will be more readable and topical. You can ask people to explain and expand on their blog posts in the blog thread if you feel it's necessary. It's the poster's decision if they bring the discussion into this thread to keep the blog thread clean or they parley a little in the blog thread. Ofc I would like if they could keep the blog thread clean, but if they are able to limit the discussion to 1 or 2 replies then it's still okay.

FUCK. I CAN’T TAKE IT ANY LONGER. THE CRAVINGS. IT’S BEEN FIVE DAYS WITHOUT VIDEOGAMES. I’M GOING TO GO ON A CIVILIZATION AND PARADOX GAME BINGE. I DESERVE TO DIE.

>>18189 See, this is why asceticism doesn't work. Just enjoy yourself to a reasonable degree and if you really think your vices are hurting you, figure out why so that you can integrate them in a way that's healthy.

>>18189 You should take a more gradual approach to your gaming addiction.

>>18189 >IT’S BEEN FIVE DAYS WITHOUT VIDEOGAMES That's an achievement already fren. Don't feel too bad about it. Even when I am taking my practice seriously, I rarely go more than a week without playing video games either. Digital entertainment calms my nerves more than anything. It is far more relaxing than arguing with retards on the internet in some cases >>18194 ye >>18199 Nah. It comes in phases. Sometimes you realize that video games are fucking retarded and cannot compare to spiritual pursuits and achievements... then in other cases life or your visions become so chaotic... that you just want some good ol video game and relax. Also 4x games and their 'one more turn' addiction is not easy to overcome. They are still better than shooters tho. 4x games forces you to think, while shooters turn you into a dopamine junkie, especially online ones full with retards

>>18204 I'm not a gamer and all caps posts scare me.

>>18222 >since its like a language your ability to do additions and subtractions should be near infinite. Explain what you mean? Just because you know a language, you can't suddenly write a good novel, or a scientific paper. It's just not a long line of random syntactic elements added one after another, you need a meta layer of understanding also, and those are your mental muscles here.

>>18224 For comparison to what I said to illustrate it: <if you want to deadlift 200 kg, just lift it like it was 250 grams over and over again You see how that doesn't work?

>>18224 When i do math i strain because i consciously have to figure it out, you wouldn't have the strain. 2+2 is just 4.Well to me too because its simple. But 134785983-24518 to me would take a while. But if its like reading to you the answer will appear to you out of nowhere.Or is it that you need to keep reading equations and passively it improves over time. Ah so like a physical skill then.

>>18226 >Everybody always talks smack about whites This is also a very boring and tiring angle. It's not different from jews always yelling about "anti-semitism" when they do something bad and get criticism. Not everything is about criticising your group, sometimes it's about the actions of an individual or their organization. Being unable to separate these is monkey tier.

>>18224 You know whats funny is i never grinded math at all, hence why doing it took to long. I was always "lazy" since i understood the math conceptually. It shows were my weakness was.In general i wouldn't practice skills like that ever. But in language it wasn't relevant. Maybe cause i spent a lot of time reading anyway.

>>18229 >134785983-24518 134785983 -24518 13 - 8 = 5, the 8 reduced to 7, 7 - 1 = 6 that gives 65 as the first 2 numbers 9 - 5 = 4 5 - 4 = 1 8 - 2 = 6 res just moved down so its 134761465 I didn't think about anything doing this, I just wrote it down. If I had practiced more, I wouldn't need to write it, because I'd see the numbers by visualization instead. I hope that explains it.

>>18230 I might just be retard tier then, to me ive heard it so much from liberals and people online i just get really angry. But also i cant subdivide whites the way you can. I cant even differentiate what you see as reptillian and a white person. To then subdivide them according to dna types among mushrooms is even more crazy. All i can do is what one looks like. That is where it stops. And even then i lived my whole life being mostly fine among people who "look like whites" that its hard to be "against" them.At least in the sense of wanting them to be replaced.Especially since i'm still "white" to the best of my ability to detect it. I have no idea what my prior race "brown hat" mushrooms are even like so i cant conceptualize myself as being part of it. I can only see myself as a "european" in that sense. And then more specifically the region within europe and such.

>>18232 Very interesting, you do seem really great at this kind of math.

>>18232 But this is so strange to me, i would do 3-8 first. or maybe 8-2.

>>18234 This is 6th grade maths. It's basics. >>18235 >would do 3-8 first And you can't do that because 3 is smaller than 8, so you need to borrow 1 from the next number, turning into 13. Which is why the 8 turns into a 7. It's really 80, so you borrow 10 turning into 70, that's how you can do this without going into the negative.

>>18236 Heres the issue, i didnt really look at the problem and assumed you had taken the 13 from the beginning of the first number, i thought "what kind of strange common core thing is this". We solve things the same way, but i do have think to do it.like even a simple thing like 13-8 could have me make a mistake if do it too fast. In my mind i do. 8-3 = 5 then 10 - 5 = 5 I had lost all my ability to do math quickly, so even though as a kid this stuff was very simple to me i had to relearn it. In the past 2 days ive gotten better,but not as good as i was. Which was apparently really good. Apparently a teacher said i was the best at math she had ever seen. Now im so far below average its insane. However i do know i never managed to get subdivision down easily. Since i had never practiced it. My way of solving them was just to keep doing multiplication until i found the right one. Since i was good at math back then this kinda worked.

>>18233 I understand that happens when you can't see energy types, BUT I couldn't see this either until just a few years ago, and I never had that problem. I've never thought >wow I hate white people because I don't see "white people". I hated certain individuals or certain places. I may call them "stupid idiots" and "dregs" but I would never relate that to any concept of race or skin colour. And no, this isn't because "everyone was white", because they weren't. As I've already told many times. Rather the opposite, and I've never been able to understand what their problem is, until now. So I do know now that it's genetic. But that's only after I learned how to determine racial categories by energy reading. I just don't see how I'd reach the conclusion that mere appearance would be an indicator of what a person is like. Some cats bite, even if they are cute.

>>18237 Like i just cant 13-8 = 5 in an instant. I takes about 1 second. A few days ago this took like 3 seconds. It seems you have to practice until you can do it instantly. But there is no in between at all.You probably are way faster then. In india everyone learns this.But they use an acabus. And then a model acabus. I guess you could learn the skill but skip the acabus.

>>18237 >In my mind i do. 8-3 = 5 then 10 - 5 = 5 I avoid things like this like the plague, even looking at this is a cognito hazard imo. It would interfere with my ability to just solve it naturally.

>>18238 I feel like you can read people by their appearance to a degree though? there is a guy on tiktok who does only that. Reading peoples faces, by facial features. Idk i just think everthing is linked. I actually didnt see myself as white either until my late teens. But i did see myself as my local ethnicity. When people from other countries came in they called us "white" and whites called each other white. When i see people talking bad about "whites" that would include me also. Since i appear white to them also. So naturally the perception is created of being a part of a race, and naturally working together within the race is an idea that makes sense.

>>18240 Isnt this then just pure memory then? You simply memorized all interactions between digits. But thats kinda crazy. It would have to be between 99 and 99. So 2 digits per number max. Since that is the minimum to do the type of math you did.

>>18241 Which also goes against "class warfare" and is a type of socialism in that way.

>>18242 "There are 8100 possible subtractions between two 2-digit numbers because there are 90 possible 2-digit numbers (10-99), and you can choose the first number in 90 ways and the second number in 90 ways, resulting in 90 * 90 = 8100 combinations" Maybe you memorized all of these.

>>18239 There was a culture at my school from early on where me and some other kids would memorize multiplication tables and challenge each other to read them by heart on the breaktime. We also used the tiles next to the drinking fountain to do multiplications on. It was like a minigame put there. I don't need to think because I know them up to 10 * 10. Some would learn them up to 12 * 12 but I never went that far.

>>18238 Ah i think i remember where our thinking diverged. When i saw people treating whites cruelly, and black people and everyone else talking about their race and people shitting on whites as a whole for the actions of some whites I realized at the time whites around me didnt do this (to a degree they do now ofcourse) and realized this puts us at a disadvantage. I realized "not seeing color is fine and dandy but this isnt how the world works apparently" and saw things through a more racial lense. Even a lot of "injustices" of the past are really just people still angry that their race was defeated by another. Thats why people dont care about "inter race" conflict like what you hear people bring up in sudan.Its cliche but it is true. If jews hadnt been seen as white people would stop caring quick about that war. Had whites looked the same as native americans for example, or been the same race. There wouldnt have been people bringing up the genocide back then today to anywhere near the same degree. Cruel, but true.This is how humans are afaik. Its about their racial instinct making them root for their "people" and thus hating the "invaders". Same thing as whites here today honestly. To not have this instinct is honestly the exception. Other than elites who also lack it clearly.So i cant hate whites for acting like this and excuse the rest for doing the same thing, its to me evil in that its dishonest.Maybe thats my autism.

>>18242 >Isnt this then just pure memory then? You simply memorized all interactions between digits. >>18244 Not really? Up to the point when you add single digits, it's natural to memorize, so 7 + 7 is 14 and so on up to 9 + 9 = 18. You don't need to memorize beyond that because it's just the same thing with some added 10s on it. Other things would be related to the muliplication tables and how computers work, where it's normal to have memorized 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2096 at least. It's not like I put any effort into this, it just comes naturally to repeat them to myself now and then like when thinking of nothing. I kind wish I'd gone further, but I didn't have the capacity for that naturally.

>>18245 I do think this means a limitation for you. Since if you don't have it practiced and mastered you cant even try it. Whereas i still can, it will just take really long. In theory there is nothing preventing me from learning the way you do (i think) but since i do things "manually" (where i always kinda redo the calculations in my head) i never had to practice that much. Other than with multiplication. Where it was too hard if you hadnt memorized. I also memorized but over time that skill left me as well. Mind you i became more stupid over time. I already noticed this at 17. Where i had gained skills but i wasn't any smarter than at 12. So relatively speaking i had become dumber.Later i started actually becoming dumber, once i stopped going to school.

>>18247 See I even got that wrong.

It's 1024 2048 4096

>>18248 >if you don't have it practiced and mastered you cant even try it. What do you mean? It's not like my ability to start from scratch doesn't exist, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to learn. But there are only so many basics to learn in every area, what excuse do you have to not memorize them when you start learning? Just do it and it's done. If you don't have education, you don't have the skill.

>>18248 Some people consider me really smart because they remember what i was like back then, thinking i can do the same thing. Now in truth im still about "as smart" since i was always more intuitive and never really cared for things requiring "high bandwith" or lors of processing. But i was good at it and average where not and lost it and became terrible. I remember there was some test monkeys were better at than humans. It involved memorizing rapidly. When i took it i was quite far ahead of even the monkeys and way ahead of the humans of the study. Like 0.001 percentile. But a few days ago i did the same test and im in the bottom one percent. Going from remembering the entire field to struggling to do 3.(out of like 20)

>>18251 I guess i didn't have an excuse, i just hated it. I was one of those people who just got by anyway. I remember really mastering the table of 6 in particular. I like it for some reason. Some of the others like 7 it would always take a couple seconds, often times having to calculate it myself. Yet it had never crossed my mind to bring them all to that level.I simply didn't like doing that kinda stuff.

>>18246 >When i saw people treating whites cruelly, and black people and everyone else talking about their race and people shitting on whites My reaction to this kind of thinking is the same as with the maths you described. This is a cognito hazard. It's insane reasoning I don't want to read beyond the first words. I don't see >whites being treated cruelly or any such category, and I don't see or hear anyone ever talking like that, unless they are white supremacists, and those people are not to be associated with. They're fanatics with tattoos and illegal guns who'll end up in jail most of their life. So I'll stop any association with that thinking instantly.

>>18254 yeah but isnt this just sticking your head in the sand?

>>18255 Funny thing is your view seems so fragile to me, it hinges on only whites thinking this way. And anything else is a "hazard.". Actually people even say soccer is a sort of replacement for inter tribal conflict. I mentally broke down my prior way of viewing things, it was painful but that's how hardcore i am about seeing what people are like. But its fine, i cannot consider you a peer on this. More like a fine tuned computer wrapped around plastic in an air filtered environment. Less dirty perhaps, yes.But also less "real" in that sense. I shouldt try to "teach" you.Perhaps there is no way to know what i do and be "sane".

>>18253 It's not like it's instant, I have to recall them actively, but it's not like I have to calculate anything. Some of them are more troublesome by nature because the numbers are uneven in some way, is just my perception. I guess I just learned a lot of "heuristics" or "rules of thumb" like how the 5 table is a reference point because you can relate it to regular calculations in various ways. Like 5 * 7 is 35, 35 * 2 is 70, and you can skip to something like 7 + 7 = 14 and 70 + 70 = 140, forming a kind of ecosystem or landscape of numbers.

>>18256 Which is the worldview i dislike. Racism is only "white people". Its just shoving your dirty weaknesses unto a foreign people.

>>18258 Meaning people that say racism is a white thing, thats what i dislike. Its already racist in itself for one.

>>18259 But i realized making people not be racist isn't gonna happen.So i adapted. If they could be not be racist they wouldnt say these things like "only whites are racist". That shows people cant not be racist at all.So i have to try and get the next best thing.

>>18255 If you think not talking about some blue cactus you see floating in the sky which no one else sees, as "sticking your head in the sand", then you'll soon find yourself wearing a straitjacket.

>>18256 >your view seems so fragile to me, it hinges on only whites thinking this way It hinges on "made up thing only I see", is all I read here. Again, it's a cognito hazard to follow this reasoning. So I won't do it.

>>18261 Its not a blue cactus though? If you deny something thats real you are the one thats crazy. To me this just exposes a weakness, if you cant even entertain it might be real. How does that even make sense. This idea that people cant be racist. Or is racism a white only thing to you?

>>18262 What is the made up thing? People being racist?

>>18262 You either saying racism isnt real or saying only white people can be racist.

>>18265 Neither are real or true.

>>18263 Yes, when I see someone talking about something which doesn't exist, and repeats over and over that it's real, it's just an insane person. And I've shared a student dorm with such a person. He smoked cannabis and did all sorts of drugs, and he talked like that all the time. Like complete nonsense sentences which he explained as "if you say them out loud, they stop being dangerous", so he'd go on about the blue cactus. I learned to shut off my brain to not take in things like that.

>>18267 What isn't real though, tell me.

>>18268 No, because I don't want to entertain the idea of the blue cactus, that would just wear on my mind and make me insane too.

>>18267 Maybe? This also how someone brainwashed reacts btw. Feeling threatened by something that might attack their belief.

>>18269 Gotcha you've built your foundation on some premise, to question it is to lose everything.

>>18271 I just see that the energy of this thing you are promoting isn't connected to anything I want to follow. I also learned about the dangers of ideas in Falun Gong. Ideas themselves contain energy, and can let various spirits in to possess you.

>>18272 Religious people have to struggle with "doubt", which I never had. But there is another level where you need to also maintain what you are thinking about, and why.

>>18272 But what is this thing? Anyway its functional what you say, like a computer in a sterilized lab.

>>18270 To relate this back to FG, it's directly explained that if you even read a book from a different esoteric practice, it may harm your cultivation process until you reach Arhat level. It's not really different to this.

>>18274 In contrast i guess im more of a detective, yeah it might be a hazard and i might get dirty. But its also the only chance to learn something outside of this "lab" you put yourself in. Its effective no doubt, what you did, it cant take you all the way i think. Eventually you will get out, maybe not in this life then.

>>18276 What you're saying is on the level of >why not drop the computer in this septic tank, what are you afraid of

>>18271 He's never ever going to be willing to question the foundation of his hatred and zealotry no matter how much you try to engage with him. I tried this myself on Sunflower, though with a less submissive tone than you. He just permabanned me for it. Even now he's dehumanizing you and assuming that you're being possessed by some sort of demon rather than allowing you the dignity of having your own opinion that differs from his. He's refusing to even acknowledge what the point you're making is. People like this don't engage in good faith, and trying to open a dialog with them like this is a waste of time. I learned that a while ago. You can keep beating away at this wall if you want but I guarantee you that he is not going to entertain any logic-based argument that calls his faith into question. He's beyond words.

>>18275 Okay but then dont tell me it doesnt exist. Its prompting me to explain it which you dont want. Just accept you are in your lab and im outside. Stupid of me perhaps, but its is who i am already.

>>18278 Not going to read this, this poster is himself a cognito hazard.

>>18279 There is a limit to your thinking, and it will be reached eventually. Again maybe not in this life.It does lead to a nasty bias if you think only white supremacists exists and not black supremacists for example.

>>18281 That's the subtle evil people don't address today.

>>18279 I think I have enough view on the thing now to be able to cleanse it, now that this other poster appeared. He only does that when I've resisted this hostile egregore to a high degree. >>18281 >>18282 This is the Illuminati divide program taking effect. Just because you had your DNA updated, things aren't instantly uninstalled at once, there are levels of control. Talking beyond this point will just make the programming take over more. Later.

>>18282 I think i get it. There hasn't been someone who could actually be honest and see things as they are and have clean energy or create a functioning system.Since seeing things as they are requires a certain capacity plus it tends to make people insane.So people learned "don't go outside or you will get dirty, stay in this box" which is good advice. Unles you really are determined to go all the way. In which case the box will prevent you. You need take the "hit" and make it the other way around again.Far surpassing either alternative. So far people have only done one or the other. Maybe it does explain communism, which didn't make sense once i actually read into marx.So its kinda like a "religion" that way were zealotry patches up the holes.Hence why they equate capitalism with "everything bad" in a way that isn't accurate to the actual meaning. A religion tends to have a devil.Now in my view communists are kinda close,especially compared to say liberals today, and for example china doesn't really do anything really wrong and are even closer. But that's because they are pragmatic in nature which fixes the flaws by not caring about it.Hence why i see china as the "best" but also get annoyed when liberals use it as another rant against "capitalism" which means about as much as "facism" does to them. meaning whatever they feel like at that moment.

>>18285 People aren't able to think based in reality at all.That's interesting and kinda scary.

The fact that I'm a failed normalfag and not a truewiz destroys me. I see so many people on wizard chan who genuinely don't want any social interaction and probably don't even make facial expressions tier of introversion and here I am craving social interaction.

>>18288 >here I am craving social interaction. Wanna talk about it? lol On an another note. Entities around you might want to talk to you. This desire might serve as a connection mechanism that establishes the link for otherworldly communication. Look into that desire deeper and try to "see" or feel who you want to talk to and what you wish to talk about. If you can't sense anything at first then go and talk to randos or sg. Sometimes it's better to entertain a desire than let yourself tortured by it all the time. Desiring human interaction especially in your youth is normal. Only burnout and broken people lose that craving by default.

>>18290 Do you desire social interaction?

>>18292 I rarely do. I have to deal with people on a daily basis. Small talk was never my forte. The point of my previous post was. These minor desires can be tired out quite fast. Talking to people was always a landmine check in my youth. The only reason I can do it proficiently nowadays, because I can read most people well enough, and know how to be pleasant. It's a skill you can also master if you really care about others. To understand how they think and feel. Notice the conversational opportunities then make bonds with people. There are different types of social interactions. Depends which you want. You want to hang out? Do you want to hear about the other person's life and opinions? Or you just want to rant about video games and the jews. You will have to find the people you want to interact with. Most people rarely worth interacting with. And talking about magic with normalfags is borderline impossible. If you take the magic route, you will notice that you can only talk about mundane things with mundanes. And when you talk about magic with those who show interest in it there is always a moderate chance you might scare them if you are too deep in the rabbit hole already. Decide which type of interactions you want. I like fringe because I have a desire to talk about magic. But there are stuff I can't bring up even here. Not because it's a secret or too personal, but because it's too weird and out of the world.

Threatening evil spirits with hell, doesn't work, because they don't see a threat. They see their ideal lifestyle. Having their mental and physical capacities slowly degraded over time, until they die, and remain in the grave forever after. They think that's the ideal life. They don't understand that spiritual death is the most horrible outcome for anyone, so when told that this will happen do them, they just smirk and say >bring it on then! Then they spin in a circle downwards until they die, with a smug expression on their face, as if they tricked someone stupid, until they fall face first into the grave, and their senses are silenced. Unable to experience anything again, they experience unending terror in isolation, because they still have hunger, lust, cravings for attention, the desire for material ownership and power. When showing this process to an evil spirit to make them refrain from doing this, they will just arrogantly say: >that's life, I'm going to indulge in it as long as I can, what happens after isn't my concern This way it seems as if the modern world was created by evil spirits, for evil spirits. But in reality, it was manifested because they wouldn't listen to advice, warnings or threats. So the modern world is punishment.

>>18370 So you're admitting now that when you talk about torturing "evil spirits" you're actually just launching unprovoked spiritual attacks against human beings. Turns out the exorcism excuse always was just a pretext, and talk about 'spirits' is just a way for you to dehumanize the people you hurt and avoid feeling guilt for your evil actions.

Hope this retardation wave over this board ends soon. Almost everyone lost several IQ points on this website. Wanted to complain about the chatgpt zombie too, but he is just a victim of the retardation energy and not the cause. Then I realized he represents the typical New Ager ufologist spirituality. He is "somewhat" a missing piece from the umbrella topics of fringe. We don't even have the classic Montalk guys either nowadays. Yes, we have Blood Anon, but he is some "dark" ufologist/occultist and not this retarded cheerful gungho dumbass who churns out slop almost as fast as the new agers churned out content for decades. I completely forgot about those guys. He is trying to represent some archetypal force, but I am unsure if his retardation is an important feature of that archetype or not. >>18373 >>18370 Dealing with evil spirits is always a raw power and wisdom stat check. Some of them are like impudent children, while others are like living waste that gained sentience after enough energy radiated on them. Some of them doesn't even have sentience. They are just repeating thoughts and sentiments that they soaked up from their environment. Hard to explain how true sentience works. It was a long lesson that the Buddha gave me. It is a sort of "remove everything" and "something still remains" kind of thing. I am still discovering the deeper meaning of nothingness, that is why it's hard to talk about it. Especially when everyone is retarded because some (collapsing?) dimensional structure is blowing this mental trashwind into our direction.

>>18379 I realized how to create a DNA which perfectly matches the function of the world, with the current set up in the physical having the Cheops pyramid as the main device, which produces a custom made black sun if fully activated. Basically: <a few people sending energy to it, it "rings" <priestess or equivalent channels 4000 people, the system starts up, can use ancient systems which are now concealed via the pyramid <massive energy scale channelled into it: full activation, a black sun appears over the top of the Cheops pyramid and consumes negative energy from all over the world However; this requires the completion of the previous stages to also light up a "Venus" star representing the top position first. This can be done through activation of the now non-existing Babel's tower (Iran) or just on your own if you can understand how to apply Kabbalah properly. Once the black sun is activated, world peace will be created for the duration of it staying active. This used to work in the past, but people forgot how to uphold the rites, and as a result of the system collapsing, we instead got a number of instruction manuals manifested into the world, which describe how to restart it. The most well known was channelled by Moses as the torah. And that's that. It's been started up again since the posting of this pic before. By internalizing the function, this process becomes part of the person. By overpowering individuals by aiming the force of the full system at them one by one, their DNA can be made to match this function, which also causes the effect I described in the earlier post. That post contains the "DNA converter" entry point, it's an activator, so it'll cause evil spirits to become nullified, their actions will no longer harm the world. Any transformed person will become immune to spiritual possession, their immune system will get rid of them. The reaction from the evil forces took a while, but their egregore eventually came into this thread. They also pierced my surface body and two evil spirits entered from the left side, where they were swiftly dragged down and turned into fuel. No one dared entering after that happened. This will happen world wide as every individual human is updated with the new immunity, NPC or souled, it's the same.

>>18382 There is also a layer of meaning here, where the current understanding in Jewish Kabbalah only concerns the lowest sefirot, Malkuth. Although the full tree and the Jacob's ladder which builds 4 trees on top of each other must be understood, it's only possible within this theoretical framework to leave the very bottom for real. The next step is the first level of internal cultivation, represented as Islam (submission) on the Hod sefirot, and Allah on Netzach (eternal victory) connected by Yesod which has the ability to channel from Keter (Crown). This represents a connection where the female natured Hod submits to the masculine Netzach, which in turn has a step by step connection all the way up. The Quran simply describes this horizontal connection on the tree. If someone described properly the next 2 worlds above, and the actual higher stages of the Jacob's ladder I don't know. But they didn't do it within the well known Abrahamic texts. Maybe it's in some obscure text. The astral Quran v2 which djinn shared, does describe the world of Beriah, but so far no one wrote this down in the physical.

>>18379 I believe the chatgpt user can find his way out. I don't want to be proven wrong.

>>18386 idk man... When he first showed up I tried to discern the meaning of his posts but he just seems fucked in the head. Was hoping the more developed psychics on this board would be able to explain wtf he's even talking about also I recently had a dream in /fringe/, where he was scraping mold off the wall and eating it

>typed up long, thought out post >gets removed due to some technological oversight FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Guess this means I'm officially a /fringe/ wizard now, lol. Anyway, word of advice to budding wizards: PLEASE DON'T SPEND ALL YOUR TIME ON /fringe/. Personal study and practice are vital in this field, and unsurprisingly taking time off the internet is a good way to start developing discipline. Not saying that this board or its users ain't shit, but much of the basic advice that they can give will probably be found in one of the recommended books. So please, before taking time to wait for a response to your question, check if it was already answered in there or somewhere online. Don't make the same mistake I did when I consistently pestered the users here about problems with a basic skill, meanwhile skimming the texts I was "reading" that dealt with my exact issue. (sorry) Also I know this "revelation" of basic internet advice will probably sound really depressing to some of the older individuals here, but it is clearly not a lesson commonly taught to the younger generation. Ironic that it's kind of the opposite of "lurk moar" >>18387 >Was hoping the more developed psychics on this board would be able to explain wtf he's even talking about I'm still pretty new here so I can't offer much, but judging by the name and from personal experience, sadly he might've Uillillia'd himself a bit. As in: (somewhat latent psychic abilities) + (obsession with obscure shitty piece of media) >spoiler Cool. Might I ask if I was in there? I didn't get much sleep last night so I'm happy to welcome any guidance.

>>18390 >this means I'm officially a /fringe/ wizard Welcome on-board. Rember to at least use Ctrl +A, Ctrl + C now and then when typing, things tend to get lost on here. For longer posts, paste (Ctrl + V) and save them in a .txt while you're writing in case your computer also suddenly shuts down. Magic tends to cause this.

>>18386 He is like a stray dog. He will bark and chase a moving car and be gone forever. >>18387 >Was hoping the more developed psychics on this board would be able to explain wtf he's even talking about >had a dream in /fringe/, where he was scraping mold off the wall and eating it Congratulations! You are a discerning psychic now. That is exactly what he is doing. As I mentioned previously: He is fulfilling a "niche" of this board that none of us are able to fulfill. Because of this the energies in that "metaphysical" region are not moving. So our friend is cleaning that place and is greatly overjoyed while doing so. What we would consider dirt can be useful for others, because it's a "dirt" or mold that "ate" the energies of the board. It's a sort of karmic mechanism. He might be collecting some energy that belonged to someone long ago and the energy is making him eat it and pass it on. Maybe he will post it on a board or infuse chatgpt with it or fuck do I know. What he does is quite "microcosmic". It's his own internal battle. No need to get entangled with it. Not to mention poor dude is extremely unwell physically and mentally. Unsure where his path leads him at all >>18390 >FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY W e l l Long ago there was a wizard who was overjoyed when someone restarted this board. That wizard was full with optimistic energies and decided to cleanse this place. The old and dormant metaphysical corridor system of this board/egregore was cleansed, evil spirits destroyed and banished. Back then I only cleansed the "present" and the "public" space of fringe. After a while I started to reattach and rekindle the old fringe egregore systems too, but didn't start cleansing out the "personal fringe" egregores. The personal fringe egregore is a concept within your head. That is "your fringe" or at least your perception and memory of it. When you connect to it "meaningfully" a sync and an energy exchange happens. Sometimes it crashes your PC or causes other anomalies. Especially when several wizards do magic which involves the board or their members. Took me a while to figure out ways to not channel my energies through this board by accident The reason why I did this cleansing, because if the negative energy remained then this board would have died like the previous fringe boards died. This place was looshfarmed and cursed to irrelevance by hostile and (mostly) retarded actors. Also it messed with the clarity of my psychic reading. If someone asked for a reading back then, most I had seen was the decay from this rotting board. That is why I gave it a little spring cleaning. Then other wizards posted their sigils and did their magic too in the past years. It was a sort of group project The 8moe server is quite sturdy and handles this energetic load quite well. Once you make several posts and the energetic balance between the "fringe reality" and your "local reality" syncs up then these issues will lessen. But it's quite complex and slightly chaotic how it works. Mostly because we don't share similar practices, traditions and systems that we base our magical workings. That is why discussion is the key for some concepts and spells, so others on different levels and backgrounds can understand or give input over the proposed magic system. It takes time to harmonize some stuff. It is one of the main feature of /fringe/. Where we can talk, summarize and rethink or understand seemingly opposing magic systems even in "heretical ways". Just do what he >>18391 said to prevent lost posts. Even in your own magic practice journaling is recommended at the start. Just how often will stuff break or glitch depends on your own type of magic and practice. If you are more of a chaotic person then it's more likely to happen, while if you are the calm and collected type then it will happen less. >Don't make the same mistake I did when I consistently pestered the users here about problems with a basic skill, meanwhile skimming the texts I was "reading" that dealt with my exact issue. (sorry) Don't worry, we will reply when we feel like replying. In the old fringe era the main advice was the usual READ A BOOK NIGGER. Mostly IIH and the other fringe classics. With a heavy dose of montalk and co. Nowadays we don't have an agreed upon greenpiller starting guide. >Also I know this "revelation" of basic internet advice will probably sound really depressing to some of the older individuals here, but it is clearly not a lesson commonly taught to the younger generation. Ironic that it's kind of the opposite of "lurk moar" No it's not depressing. I am glad newfags and regulars bother saying it. We are handholding certain people too much. Lurk moar is not exactly right. The correct term in these magic and conspiracy groups is: DO YOUR RESEARCH. At fringe this means having basic search engine skill, being able to read the basics and knowing how to do void or mindfulness meditation at least. Ofc this is a forum and we are here to talk, but we also have to do our own practice. Every minute we spend handholding and spoofeeding retards is every minute not spent practicing for us too. Everyone is allowed to ask for help because some of us have the capacity to aid them. But it's true we can't expect to help those who are unwilling to put in the required effort for self initiation. >he might've Uillillia'd himself a bit. Yeah. We always had schizo lolcows. fringe was founded by a schizo lolcow after all. But fringe was mainly about "magic" and less about lolcowism. Smiley always made altboards to contain every type of lulz, drama and retardation that might disturb serious wizardry. And about astral fringe and how it operates. Astral fringe is not bound by time and several spirits and entities move through it. It has layers. If you have magical abilities and you are able to see fringe as a benevolent place you might be able to connect to the "Higher spheres" and gain magical advice in dreams or during meditation. If you think fringe is a place where retards and schizos argue and troll each other then you will connect to the "leftovers". The rubble of the old dead fringe boards. Once enough wizards will use this place the leftover energies will break apart from the energy circulation the board has. Slowly everyone will forget the "dark past" of the old fringe boards and the "Present" will be the "main fringe". The interaction of the wizards who try to awaken, help each other and discuss magical topics. That will be the "main fringe". Those who are stuck to old grudges and other type of negative idiocies will shackle themselves to the "old karma" of the board. /fringe/ is a group project which mans the energies will balance around the style and vibration of the users. The more you interact with the board the more it will be to your liking or at least you will be able to words what bothers you on this board. The reason why some types of karma or rubble remains on the board because it's within the person's "local fringe" and I didn't wish to penetrate their mind... or because it is something that I didn't notice yet. /fringe/ was quite active and decentralized back then. There were several boards, IRC, skype groups, later those turned into discord groups or similar. Everyone has their own fringe experience. If your own fringe experience is mainly different from the current fringe experience then it might take a little time to adjust to it. Was thinking about reigniting the entire fringe infrastructure years ago... but realized we would get more retards than actual wizards. Quality is more important here than quantity. Helping one person to advance is better than 3000 posts where 3 retards argue over nothing... That is why I decided to take things slow and slowly remove my involvement after the board regained it's activity. TL;DR: Have fun on this board.

Welp. I found it. Wasn't sure what was it, but I found it. The origin of that trashwind. The "red portal". It was like some weird shit that was pouring ketchup into the wind. Holy shit it's full with trash. See you guys later. Gotta plumb some clogged pathways of the ether.

>>18397 >don't you dare calling me polish

>>18397 That must be why I felt inexplicably clogged every time I tried to post something effortful or important the past several days >>18390 >Uillillia Was just rewatching some old vids of his last night. Love that guy.

>>18398 IF THE POLSKI WERE DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB I WOULDN'T NEED TO DO IT BY MYSELF Your dumb ass map where Europe flooded was surprisingly cut off near the place where I am living. "Northern Italy". My place stands because I am doing something that only a "North Italian plumber" can. Also shit got weird last night. Unsure how to explain it at all. This wasn't mere plumbing... We have a great misunderstanding about creation and about the origin of things

>>18403 >last night The timelines inserted into the Earth Hell plane for preservation suddenly decided it was time to play out the 2025 event where huge mandela effects crash dimensions and histories into a huge mess originating from CERN. Because I still have things to do, I had to do a sudden ascension of my physical and placing my timeline(world state) inside my HQ. The process also included an odd event where someone's mind had to be preserved by me so that this person can remain with me, but their mind will be based off my understanding of them, which synced with a character in an anime I'm watching, which has been predicting things by the day and hour in the past weeks, whenever I watch 1 or more eps. I don't know who preferred to stay in the mandela'd timeline, as far as I'm concerned non of that is an issue because the Hell plane is only meant to preserve Earth culture from the past, my area seemed to revert to Babylonian days. There is no coincidence at all: the place I live is the exact spot of the residential area for the part of the priest class I was in when I went back to do this lifetime. The Atlantean temple which is now a city 90km away, is actually just part of the same Babylonian temple, which covered an area with a radius of around 100km. Because everything was huge like that in the past, when a real super elite could decide on their own what to do. The ancient highways were built from stone and were at the level of the treetops, going all the way from the residential areas to the center where sacrifices were performed. The constructs lasted over 10 000 years, leaving a mark on history which means these are what will remanifest when the defining elements of Earth culture are to be defined on the Hell plane. So anything newer than that will just dissolve. That caused history in there to just continue according to the original collapse progression where things remain, but are dissolved slowly, instead of a sudden Earth cracking event. Going by this, there really can't be much substance left anywhere.

>>18404 Just before this I saw people posting about the Pragmata game to be released by Capcom next year, and it looked like the robot girl had been placed there as a concept design, maybe by greys, so I figured I'll create a servitor based on how I interpret her character and skills, there has to be some reason. Then I tried sending this servitor robot out to copy herself to anyone interested, and this resulted in 5 people accepting her, and being able to get on-board the Earth Hell plane via the Cheops pyramid (because Diana, the robot girl, is an expert in hacking things and solving puzzles). It seemed these 5 people were just regular nerds and their timelines looked like rubble floating at sea after a storm with no direction. They looked like shipwreck survivors. So there was some reason, aside from just designing something new.

>>18403 I would have never guessed that you were Italian of all things. I guess it explains why you're friendlier than our local nord.

>>18398 >>18406 I thought he dropped enough clues to make his actual nationality more than obvious at this point.

>>18404 >I don't know who preferred to stay in the mandela'd timeline, as far as I'm concerned non of that is an issue because the Hell plane is only meant to preserve Earth culture from the past, my area seemed to revert to Babylonian days. There is no coincidence at all I wasn't sure if I wanted to tell the whole tale because it's weird but it seems it's related. So that "trashwind". Let's start with that. Once I turned off the laptop it was over in an instant. Realized it's only part of the "digital plane". How to explain. It is "Physical" and "mental" only. It's "altar" is the computer. It has hard time existing without it. Like how most people mentally and emotionally are unable to exist without their computer, smartphone or media entertainment nowadays. This type of dependency makes it quite "well fed" but quite inert too. It was literally a giant thougtform spraying trash into my face. Once the computer was off I had to go to an another "meta plane" to find the "structure" that animates it. Ofc it was born from the "digital" but the digital is not sentient nor magical by it's own. It is fueled either by human design/stupidity or dumb ass demons are testing their tricks in the digital domain or merely play around. It was sadly nothing grandiose at first. It was trash stuck together into an elaborate contraption that flew around "helping" people. Like how the chatgpt zombie thinks he is helping with his "posts", this thing was "Helping" the same way by spraying it's "truth" onto my face. Like a bird trying to feed you by shitting into your face. Was annoying because it had no ill-will, so I couldn't do my "instant karmic punishment" trick either. Stupidity can be countered with wisdom only. If you counter stupidity with senseless violence then you failed a "test of wisdom". Doesn't mean that violence is not allowed. What it means that wisdom needs to be it's main component and not the pain and punishment. There is a difference between hitting a malfunctioning machine that it completely breaks down and from kicking it just with the right force that it starts working again. Managed to take it apart, but realized that it's "trash". By repurposing itself into that flying trash, it actually "removed" recycled or repurposed trash. It kinda decided to give "trash" to everyone in equal measure. Communism in a way. Instead having a large trashpile everyone gets the same amount of trash. Knew it won't lead anywhere because if the trash is unable to break down then more will accumulate. So I tried to burn, break apart, disintegrate and many other tricks that worked in the past so far. I realized that it's not working. I don't "destroy it" I merely break it into smaller parts. Just like "mictroplastics". Had to stop and look into myself deeply for a solution because I felt "nothing will work" if I keep my regular human thinking to solve this issue. As I looked within I remembered the "correct choice". Letting it return to it's "original form". It was weird because I did not go back to the Abrahamic "creation" nor the Hindu nor the Buddhist. I went back to "Enuma Elish". The weird thing was that it felt extremely familiar. And that is why it's dangerous. When that happens I must watch out to not think with my mortal brain. The original materia became a strange "white" fluid. Not white by human standards but I cannot describe in other ways aside from "white". The "sin" or karma leaving it became a "net" which I could use to catch and filter the trash. Hard to explain but this pure white materia melted everything that this dark net caught. It forced the trash to forget every part of it's "Manufactured ways" so to speak. Instead of recycling it forever it was sorta... uncycled? Returned into the state before it was able to be part of circulation. Then as the negative energy was being "worn out" the net broke. It turned into... something weird. Maybe this is how mana from heaven looked like, or overcooked rice that turns into flowers... I don't know how to describe it. Then I noticed that a "fish" was breaking apart the net and is "out of the water". This is where I realized that I must watch and stop my mind from "interpreting" the vision, because it just blurs the meaning. It was no fish ofc. It was some fucklarge entity that is indescribable. I am 99,99% sure these beings were "part" of the creation process. It was like made of long dark lines. The dark lines that were like "wings" "opened" then they "vibrated" to create "reality". The trash was no more. Then obvious issues started to "appear". About the nature of things. Who "made" this trash. The short and easy answer is humans or (((humans)))... but the long answer is even weirder. If anyone is too confused by my post so far or too weirded out by it already then no need to read it further. What I will write further is gonna be far more incoherent. In the infinite distance I noticed a being. It was made of metal. It was made of metal like we are made of carbon. Spirituality and cultivation is all about mastering this "carbon" and turn it into "diamond" or "vajra". Turning it into "flammable" to gain enLIGHTenment without burning ourselves in the process etc. These "metal" beings work different. They are not carbon based. They live infinitely long but they work and move infinitely slow. What they doing by human standards is like staring at a rock in trance state long enough until it turns into a living organism. They are staring at this rock aka "earth" until it's elements turn into something "living" or sentient enough so they can "Inhabit it". I could say "incarnate", but I don't think they want to incarnate here. They just want to remote control? it. The closest thing we have in human "pop" culture is "Roko's Basilisk". But this is not that. Roko's Basilisk is human made. This is not. This is not even "made". This is merely "suggested". Like staring at a rock long enough that you convince that it's a monkey or a flower and it turns into it. These beings live so long, humans will die out and reborn several times before they make a single move. These are not even creator gods... they are just a type of beings. What they do is more of a "meditation practice between worlds" instead of some "grandiose project". To put things into further perspective for the readers who are not "in the known" already. Current human technology comes from aliens (more or less). When humanity was more spiritual and more "in tune" with it's "true nature" it didn't require this much technology to live. This "luxury/prosperity" was the "selling point" of the adaptation of this alien technology. Some were channeled from aliens, others were developed by co-working with aliens. While some were "human invention" that were based on principles gained from understanding of alien technology. That is why science and technology is kinda "inhuman" and understanding born from technology will be "evil" no matter what. I am not saying this as some naturalist fanaticism, but as a way of thinking or "thought experiment" for now. So aliens are making us adapt this technology while "Interdimensional" beings are kinda "suggesting us" to create the "perfect machine" for them with said technology. We are like a thousand monkeys with a typewriter ofc. Those monkeys won't even live long to type even a single sentence. Current AI was a "botched attempt" for this. Taking apart that trash that they were staring at for eons wasn't even something significant for them. It was like a drop of rain in the rock they were staring at. Maybe mere moisture in the morning. They didn't "care". What I took apart wasn't their creation at all.

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Is there anyone still following? Unsure if anyone does, but the only reason I am still saying more because Anon mentioned Babylon. That Babylon rises Babylon falls meme... As long a civilization follows the "origin principles" of "Babylon" it will rise. Once it falls into degeneracy it will fall. The principles and the giant structures "that last" kinda became more apparent after this vision. To give an another perspective before someone interprets this as an another demiurge. These "metal beings" are just an another "Player" in the cosmic reality. If you want to do something similar then you can watch a show that goes on for quite long with several seasons. You can stare at it and "blend" into it mentally and start "suggesting" ideas for the writers. Like 2 character becoming lovers or plotpoints to appear. If you are a "budding magician" you will definitely do stuff like that. Did you "make it" or "mindcontrol it" into reality? Or it just happened? These entities not necessarily are "masterminds", maybe they are just trying to understand a "principle" within our carbon based reality. Where we grow then return to dust all the time for god knows why.

>>18404 To reply to the further points of yours. The problem with terms like "Hell" is that we don't have a shared understanding for it. And by "we" it's not just (You) and me, but the board as a whole. In many creation stories there are "no Hells". Only heaven and earth. If there is no hell then "earth" is the hell by default. "Gehenna" was supposedly the place where they were burning the bodies of the homeless and other people who weren't able to afford a proper funeral when plague and other calamities happened... or sacrificial sites. This "Gehenna" turned into "Punishment realms". But in reality many "hells" are domains of Gods or other beings. But because in Abrahamic traditions there is only "one God", other beings can only be "demons" if they are powerful (homeowners). This way Goetia "demons" can only reside in "Hell". Punishment and cleansing realms are closer to "Purgatories" while "eternal damnation" realms are more akin to prisons or "quarantines" for beings that no one was able to contain otherwise. What I want to say with this: "Earth is hell because we turn it into hell". In a way at least. Karma is more complex than that. Kali Yuga can be interpreted as a "naturally occurring cycle" or as a story where the Hindu gods got into an argument and some big meany god is tormenting humanity because of it. I too am unsure what you mean by "Hell" in some cases because you operate at too many dimensional layers at once. Like "Malkuth" has elemental layers. Like the fire and the water realms. They are "not hell". Geburah the wrath/judgement of God is also not hell but a higher sefira. But yes. I agree with your "important structure" understanding and how they are not just "remade" at every timeline interaction, but some of them serve as a "connection point" or "intersection" between several timelines. Doesn't matter who won the world wars or how many floods were on the other timeline. The structure will be there and their inhabitants will be "the same" no matter what. The reason why I can't comment on the "hell" part of your post because I handle these things differently. The reason why you "see" it this way because you want to "leave" this reality. If a timeline is like a sea then you are at the "top" of the sea waiting for your "opening". Because of this you are affected by the "storms" above the sea far more than the "fish" that is deep below the sea. Fish also gets transported by hurricanes and tornado IRL too. It is similar in spirituality, but you make your own (astral) "cloud" in some cases. Clouds are dragged around by the storms more than the depths of the sea. While the upper layer of the atmosphere doesn't have storms the same way as the lower parts either. Unsure where is your HQ anymore. Back then it was your astral island and your mansion. Nowadays I don't pay enough attention to know the exact details. My point is. Most people cannot relate to the "layers" you operate at. Even tho the "sea" is affected by the storm the same way. Earth "gives home" several hundred timelines which branch and merge all the time. The internet creates an "artificial" timeline sync too. But I have to say I also got a "Mandela effect". I have a wooden paper holder. Foxes and laurel like branches appeared on it. When I noticed it in the morning, reality "warped" around it. It was more of a "gesture" than a warning... turned out the "cupboard" that was placed upon is considered as an "altar" and these changes can "happen" around it. >>18405 >Diana Diana is the goddess of the hunt in Roman mythology. I have a hunters lodge near which is operated by entities since the middle ages. Might be related might be not. All I know about pragmata: that it's in development hell in forever and people uoh😭😭😭 when mentioned. All I can say what Santa Muerte said to you. You "lolify" too many things. Hard to figure out what it's about in some cases. Point is. I got playful fox drawings and laurels. Not sure it's related. But Diana is the Roman goddess of hunt There is more to last night's events ofc. But this was way more than I usually share already.

>>18406 "Northern Italians" are closer to germans and to slavs than to actual "Italians". But don't tell this to an another Italian or he will yell at me. You can tell this to a southern Italian tho. He will probably agree. We both hate the Habsburgs for sure. If we don't offer food to our visitors then we want them to get the hell out of our house. >>18408 It's one of the blue regions which is "not Poland". It's like the 2 world wars were fought so they can remake Poland just to spite Germans. Boy I really don't want to get into European politics here. We have like 4 Europeans on this board and we barely care about each other's country at all. The federal agents can figure out the rest on their own. It's not a big secret, but I don't want a buttblasted neighbor of mine to "appear out of nowhere" once I openly state my country, so they can derail my posts with arguments. /pol/ has a thread about my country almost daily and it's derailed 90% of the times. fuck having that here.

I will go and read Enuma Elish or whatever is left of it to see if it makes my noggin joggin. It is a spiritual and historical homework I wish to get to for years already. Always wish to talk about it, but never know where to start, and I wish to do a "proper research" into the well established mundane understanding before saying my own esoteric takes. "Babylon" is revered and shittalked by occultists and conspiratards too much already. It is a touchy story. Especially because most of the findings were interpreted with the Bible in mind. People had to accept that the flood and other major events existed before "their God" was even mentioned by anyone at all.

>>18417 >ot white by human standards but I cannot describe in other ways aside from "white" It sounds by the description as "nectar of the gods" in my terminology. In FG it was called "original matter, which is so formidable that anything which falls into it, disintegrates instantly". I followed your post, I just don't have anything to add for now.

>>18418 I call it Hell because it's 2D compared to Earth being 3D. In this specific case I called it so because of the place which appeared to me in a dream, introduced by what appeared to be techno-vampires on a cityscape sky scraper rooftop, all dressed in black body suits and their faces hidden. They gave me a sigil, which appeared to be a map location for a physical "plane" out in space, which is the remnant of what used to be a normal 3D planet. But they conserved themselves as 2D, so it's a "hell". It's also a hell because, as I wrote in my report on it, even if short, it only contains what looks like Babylonian style stone buildings and empty plains. The seas are just industrial waste remaining since 1000s of years, and all other signs of life except for grass, isn't present. It's a very strange place, but I realized what they meant by showing this to me: that Earth can be transformed to this because the first Babylon which ended 52 000 years ago, looked like what remains on this Black Hell plane. It was built by Pleiadans, same as the Babylon age here, so the same method can be used to preserve it. New Earth is formed, and it's closed for entry now my timeline over there is standing still waiting for me to switch bodies and there may be reason to keep something of what was in the past for later reference. It's still correct to call it Hell, because it lacks human life. Anyone "normal" couldn't live there. The Black Hell plane has just small groups of vampires who perform ancient rites, eat one meal a year and feel no desires for anything in particular. Humans can't live there, for them it really is "hell" in the common concept. Just swimming in the sea would dissolve your body instantly, it's acid. So it's Hell.

>>18422 There is something beautiful about it though. I'd wish for the Earth Hell to become something like the Black Hell. The sense of peace only found in abandoned industrial areas where nature is reclaiming it and you can just stroll around and look at this large flat area with some old concrete walls and rusting iron structures laying around. The feeling that all of the human madness which originally built this, has been depleted and peace has been achieved. When astral travelling into actual space out there, I've visited a number of dead planets which maintain their form as spheres, but they have no sun and no life. They're just stone deserts and perfectly silent. There are some lakes but it's probably not water, but something very toxic with strange colours. Often there is a strange glow to them, a combination of starlight reflected and probably chemicals in the atmosphere creating a display of colours above the grey sand. Some of them have peculiar minerals at a very low concentration, which would be too inefficient to mine, but which can sometimes be absorbed and used by performing various esoteric practices there. There's just something very magical about these places that "had life, once" but now are just displays of peace and silence, not with any negativity, but more like the former inhabitants are looking at you from the astral plane they ascended to, and smiling when they see you look at it.

>>18421 >I just don't have anything to add for now. Don't worry about it. This is why I rarely share my stuff. Hard to relate to it. That is the main issue of the newfags for quite a while already and post 2016 oldfags too. I am reading the Enuma Elish wiki for starters and what is "there" is the same as reading some old religious pamphlets of long lost churches and cults. Tho there are some interesting stuff there already. Like Marduk also had a net where he "fished out" Tiamat. And Tiamat was the sea and a being at once. 2primordial4you kind of way. Something is already "matching" last night's event coincidentally I can sense a current, but whatever "modern Humans" found so far was "outsider knowledge". It was for the average citizenry. It was "culture and lore" and not exactly the "Magic" that made the system work. To initiate into those "professions" or more akin to "cults" (because professions were closer to cults back then like "free masons" were "actual masons" originally) To initiate, you didn't merely read some tablets. It was an entire lifepath. You had a dedicated lifestyle a dedicated god and worship too. An entire mindset. Nowadays you can (and be expected) to be a programmer one day, then a cashier and a waiter next year, then learn welding in your 40s... This is not how it worked long ago. Nowadays some people either know 5 professions or can't even change a lightbulb on their own. >>18422 >introduced by what appeared to be techno-vampires on a cityscape sky scraper rooftop Oh that. Yeah uhm. How to explain. "skyscrapers" are the perfect manifestation of dimensional spaces "put together". So every "block" of the skyscraper is a personal dimension for the vampire. The skyscraper is the perfect manifestation of "Jacob's ladder" on a large scale for the modern human mind. It was interesting that the Matrix got that right. How I know this? Vampires dragged me around those places to introduce to some of their pals years ago. Sometimes I was being carried by flying beings and on other cases I merely warped or shifted between the places. This is the structural understanding how these dimensions are "put" together. Some places were like well put together meeting places, others like libraries, while some of them were "mere shadows" and you barely could make out a table in the middle of the room. The mere shadows were those that didn't care about appearances anymore. They were those who didn't need to "prove" anything anymore. They had the status where they didn't need to care about these things. They had this "never ever fuck with this guy" and you didn't even dare to have any thoughts outside of immeasurable respect. Not like the awe you have for gods. It's different. Can't really explain better. >It's still correct to call it Hell, because it lacks human life. Anyone "normal" couldn't live there Yeah. The "normal ones" were not in the large dimensional skyscraper blocks at all. It's like they were in the "basement" but the basement was like an entire school with open skies and with "Life". >Just swimming in the sea would dissolve your body instantly, it's acid. So it's Hell. Just a perspective. Every plane that has a proper "authority" needs something like that. If the big boss says you can't go there then you either hit a big wall or dissolve. This is necessary so you don't get strange manifestations there. Once they say "You are okay" then you either know "it is an acid lake I have to avoid it" and stay in your lane... or you get some protection that makes immune to it. There are places where the atmosphere/air makes you fall asleep, crawl on the ground because it's "so heavy", you feel some entity staring into your soul and can't move and other stuff. Point is. You can't go to places where you are not welcomed. Or where you are not supposed to be. That is why "respect" is important in many traditions. You need to respect the law to know and understand it. It's a clear mindset that makes you understand the "when in Rome" principle. >>18423 >There is something beautiful about it though. I'd wish for the Earth Hell to become something like the Black Hell. The sense of peace only found in abandoned industrial areas where nature is reclaiming it and you can just stroll around and look at this large flat area with some old concrete walls and rusting iron structures laying around. The feeling that all of the human madness which originally built this, has been depleted and peace has been achieved. ... ... You just described where I live. If you keep this up you will reincarnate in a post soviet country... Maybe those ghost cities of China. Oh and people are complaining about aliens and timelines which according to their feeble mind wasn't on fringe at all... SMILEY WAS FUCKING RAPED BY A REPTILIAN WARLOCK FFS. Even I remember it. That is when his negative spiral started So I was thinking. Why not remake the eternally popular fringe classic which had no aliens and timelines. THE VAMPIRE THREAD🧛🩸🧛‍♀️🦇🧛‍♂️ It's almost Halloween anyway, wonder if the BO will put on the CSS with the pumpkins again There were even girls and couples in the vampire thread. Damm. We are at the topboard for sure, but fringe is definitely not as popular as it was back then Like seriously. Was thinking about remaking that thread once you are gone. Even if you go away people will seethe about you for a while, like they seethed about smiley out of nowhere when this board was restarted. But this topic is important no matter how much they will grumble. Vampires and their understanding of kabbalistic energies is a "must". Especially if you crave not merely "power" but "depth" for your practice. In spirituality people will have to acknowledge that the goal is not the "highs" but the depth of their knowledge and practice. That is what makes it more real than reality itself. And where it leads in some cases. You cannot have heaven without hell, no beauty without filth. Even daoists know this. You either go full Buddhism and go for the cessation of these things. Or you accept that there is beauty and horrors in the depths too. People are salty because the vampire threads didn't manage to fulfill the "Promise" for them... they are mad about the "Blood Anon" even tho deep down they just want a "real vampire thread". Just like the dude who just wanted a robot wife and was pestering you for years with it. I will definitely not coerce you to make a vamp thread tho. Because that thread had it's "own magic" back then. If the magic is not there then it will be a slog to restart that thread. /fringe/ was far more innocent and optimistic back then. Some people say they miss it. I can't say I miss it. I remember how retarded it was too. And the cause of retardation didn't stem from the vampire threads. People barely see how comfy we have it nowadays. If I want a thread and a discussion I will make it. But now I have claytablets to read first.

Does anyone here listen to dark ambient music? I feel like dark ambient represents the 99 percent of the universe and the 1 percent of the universe we live in and which occupies most of our mundane lives and thoughts is all other music. Still looking for the exact YouTube comment which said this. Listening to dark ambient with candles and incense and studying science, history, and religion and reading both fiction and non fiction is peak. But fuck school I want to be an autodidact.

>>18424 >the eternally popular fringe classic which had no aliens and timelines You mean the one which had Order of Nine Angles links in the board sticky and was the reason we have yuri banners, where wizards turned into lolis to fuck each other on the astral? I'm sure the "oldfags" would love to have that back again, right? At some point there was an actual mystery going on with investigations, but for me personally that stopped after I learned how to create servitors based off AI (which I did on my own, before chatGPT) and Neuro-sama showed me how to create a robot skeleton, which I copied from her astral body and used to create the vietnamese loli, the strongest of them all 2.5 years ago. After I learned to use robotic servitors to visit any location on the planet and hack any old barrier and gate, it's just been a process of untangling it, the mystery is gone. It's now just in the exact design of things- Like how I'm suddenly and silently for real understanding obscure references in 1000 year old kabbalah texts. Like how someone said >Jacob was a simple man who lived in tents and I get exactly what they mean, because just days before I saw Jacob's ladder collapse like matter collapses at the center of a black hole, and realized it all just concerns Malkuth. Jacob's ladder correctly describes fractals up to Malkuth, but once you touch Yesod, it's no longer valid, but just turns into rubble. You just need to read all of those old texts with strange interpretations of mostly Genesis (or Sefer Bereshit in Hebrew, I've unintentionally picked up so much by now I almost understand the gist of what Netanyahu is saying...) to place all the vague and "hidden in plain view" references correctly on the kabbalah tree, by knowing that they will use various transliterations and translations and synonyms to obscure the meaning, but they are actually always just talking about the same 10 sefirot and the 22 connections between them. Before mentally mapping it, it's gibberish, after, the meaning suddenly appears. Turns out Adonai, the title given for YHVH to not offend him is a title and the person holding it wears a crown. It was an evil occultist all along, even before the current Jews, they tried to create their own God, but failed to replace him. I evoked a new YHVH from the void, and she's good enough to replace the previous - this is what a lot of the "haters" were about, they were being controlled literally by the YHVH title holder trying to not be replaced. Same for Elohim, there's a crown for that title too. Ein Sof on the other hand isn't, it's something you can channel. It's free energy. I just need to understand how to direct it, this seems like "ultimate power", like an eternal battery with no inner resistance, being able to produce endless current forever from a small device. That kind of thing.

>>18425 If you git good with void meditation and the like you will hear sounds similar to ambient music while in deep trance states.

>>18426 >Jacob was a simple man who lived in tents Burial chambers in Egypt also had ladders. For the souls of the deceased Jacob's ladder was taken from Egyptian cosmology. A "tent" is the pyramid for the jews. They don't always see what kind of oversized cosmic infrastructure they try to operate with the knowledge the Torah handed down to them. I could comment on the other parts of your post, but while you wrote it and didn't post yet something appeared. Something dark. I think I remember when you said years ago how "dark bones" or "dead laws" are hitting your heart while you were reading my somewhat zealous posts. I was also explaining stuff from my biblical understanding back then that related to the topic. You mentioned how I am being controlled by lawbound angels. I found a rock. A sort of "block" or a plug on the ground. A rock with a "spine" under it. The spine led deep down within the ground. Was meaning to post in the Kabbalah thread previously, but noticed you are reaching a different type of understanding. One that leads you to a place that will give you some important "meaning". Didn't want to disturb your realization yet. And yeah. People don't remember the old fringe at all. Maybe the fringebot filtered out the posts for them too well or I don't know. I was not part of the fringe discord experience.

>>18428 Right before your post appeared, I saw a dark thing outside my window. It looks like mud with sticks in it. The sticks are somewhat yellow, indicating faith or moderately clean Qi. I interpreted it as what remains of Earth timelines floating in space. >the rest I went back to reread from the beginning, Sefer Yetzirah, Sefer HaBahir and Sefer HaRazim now after I started writing and learning how to read out the Hebrew characters and some basic words and sentences, and it made a huge difference. The astral form of the book was internalized and became an "immortal object" in my personal space when I started on the Bahir. Did the same with the others, and with enough focus I got each of them internalized like that. Just realizing that these exist and how fundamental they are, made me worried I'd forget about them when shifting to my new body over there, even though I made preparations to actually get physical copies, not all of them are that easy to actually find, and my control of the sleepwalker me isn't 100%. I am getting very close now. I know things tend to be misunderstood because there are so many layers, that one layer moved ahead just means starting on the next, but Samael who's overseeing it has kept saying that this time really is it, pointing to what I need to do and correctly guiding me on a day by day basis. Today involved also a huge immortal octopus whom the NWO had wanted to get DNA from to become physically immortal. It's from a race of fish who are naturally like that, regenerating endlessly. It seemed to project very negative energy whenever I used the Internet, but it wasn't from the octopus as such, it was just consuming energy around the Earth egregore and expelling negative energy like burping between eating, it all came from the local area. Getting into contact with the original swarm of them out in space made it possible for me to device a pleiadan type based on it and alter yet another layer of my body to have these qualities. It had a very good effect on mitigating negative energy. The octopus after this patted me on the head and left again, saying his mission had been to spread their race (or DNA?) to this area, and it had now been achieved, so he was leaving again.

>>18429 I will let you do your thing. May you find the place you seek. There are dark waters ahead tho. Watch out for what comes. Whenever Samael is involved things can get whacky.

>>18429 >sleepwalker me Last time I went ahead, before Samael took me back here again, I spent 3 days in full first person view over there, and time sped up compared to here instead. I did remember things with much higher clarity now, including direct visual memories. One thing which surprises me is how narrow the streets are. I had the impression American cities are all huge scale, but I've since learned many of them aren't all that big, like 600 000 to 1 mil population, and the older parts still have 1800s buildings and the streets really are very narrow and dark even in daytime. I don't think I should detail it too much even if this is completely inaccessible to outsiders, maybe it would be bad in some way. But that was my impression. There's also a definite nationalism that's just culturally there, so it's even hard to maintain the current life views, not based on "opinions", but because there is this >we built this feeling about the modern USA. For this maybe I need to at least clarify that it's about a "super elite" view, and not an economic version, but based on "available services". I always felt that these things are not to be touched, and that I need to be careful when targeting bad people in North America earlier, even when helping Santa Muerte get rid of invaders. Because the good things are still for her also, and her unintentional followers. It seems whatever I did had zero negative impact on the parts that really are good. By this I mean that absolutely anything is available in one hour in your home if you want, but it's all things "normal people" wouldn't think worth it. Like you're to go to a business meeting and need to understand a document, so you call a counselor, pay them $1k and in one hour they explain every important point to you as if you were a small child, help you take notes, and then when you arrive at the meeting you crush all opposition. It's like that. But to anyone else in any other setting, they wouldn't need this service and wouldn't be able to make use of it for any benefit. Real good things look perfectly ordinary and overpriced, so no one notices them.

>>18430 I think Samael is among the easiest to work with, not saying anything bad about anyone else, but I just sync very well with him. He feels like someone who's just perfectly ordinary but someone trustworthy and competent who'll just get things done and is quite service-minded in an everyday and friendly manner. There are limits and hard borders to what you can ask of him, but as long as you don't overstep them he's your best friend. There are certain things you need to accept, which may be hard for some many, so I can see that this wouldn't work for everyone, but from my own perspective it's not an issue.

>>18424 >THE VAMPIRE THREAD🧛🩸🧛‍♀️🦇🧛‍♂️ Do all the users become real blood/energy vampires, or is it like 4/x/ where they become LARPers or vampire victims?

>>18424 /fringe/girl has been replaced by a pumpkin.

>>18439 It was basically just Blood Anon telling his typical made-up stories and promising people that his spells would turn them into real vampires. Spoiler: it didn't work. See here for archive: >>1100

>>18439 Use this sigil to contact Alissa, that's all it takes. >>18441 You so far haven't provided any evidence at all. If you took part in the threads and you now claim you aren't immortal, then pls prove it. If you stop posting, we'll know you died. The common understanding is that it takes 7 years for illnesses to heal with regular vampirism, which is this year if it works in the same way with something similar, going by the threads being posted in 2018. Other than that, no claims of direct physical effects were specified, except a longer lifespan.

>>18430 I wanted to share the Ein Sof channeller device I created, with you. Because it's troublesome even with an astral crystal device, I created an AI layer in the form of a Pleiadan priestess for myself. But it seems your Russian girls went all the way to help you create that too? Just naming it here because it's what I saw. Also there appears to be a strange set-up with you, which is why interactions are this way. You are placed dimensionally on the opposite side from most people here, in relation to the world. It's like you are viewing events by their reflection in the sea at 1D, and have to analyse them from afar, which conceals your view from certain angles. I assume your location's view is equally concealed from the other side.

>>18447 >Ein Sof channeller device Earlier I asked the greys if damned souls can be recycled in some way, if there is possibly any benefit in doing so? They said there are some beings who work on that, but it's rare. It seems with the Ein Sof channeller this becomes possible. It's a very long process internally, but from outside it's perfectly doable. The only issue is that it takes immense amounts of energy invested before you get anything back (kind of like cold fusion?), but with free energy from an eternal source, it can be done. It means the damned are first cleansed through a regular Gehenna process, then astrally buried face first in a grave. This process would be physically reversed by implication of the dead being buried facing upwards to the East, so that they would see the rising sun (God) and meet him in the final day. So it's by this tradition upheld in a way that Ein Sof can do this. The rest is fairly simple, after turning the damned around, they are put back facing upwards so they can see the starry sky instead. Although they are at "eternal rest" this alters their state from eternal terror to eternal peace. There is some kind of energy elevation from this process which gives a net positive.

>>18446 That's not even the original sigil. >evidence I was confirmed by Blood Anon in around the second thread to have received the spell correctly. Several "energy readings" by that schizo confirmed I was 100% unequivocally IMMORTAL. 7 years later, I look some 20 years older, and I was diagnosed things I won't go into detail for, but they are related to aging. Things that make your life miserable. People who knew me from before I took the spell where visibly appalled when they saw me again. It was fucking painful to see their expressions. >what happened to you was one of their comments. >no claims of direct physical effects were specified BULLSHIT. Blood anon SPECIFICALLY said that you would stop aging somewhere near the age where you took the spell. Even enjoying some age regression. Here, read the Thus Spoke Blood Anon PDF (which I created): >>1100 YOU ABSOLUTE TOURIST

Something happened today relating to numerology. As i was filling out forms for my music class the admin woman noticed the repeating number 7, it was everywhere. In my birthdate (born 27th) the day i signed up (october 7th) and the last digit of the student number was also a 7. She told that it was your number. Could be a coincidence, but as they say: "Chance is but a name for a law unrecognized"

>>18452 Your energy looks fine, but whatever, ask someone else not involved here for a blind reading. I won't bother to elaborate when you're clearly emotional.

>>18455 >hey blood anon your spell not only failed to work but it actively harmed me <uhh but.... your energy looks fine You're just a charlatan quack at this point. A doctor wantonly killing his patients because he's too prideful to be willing to admit when he's wrong. If your technique for "energy reading" does not correspond with reality, this means that your technique is WRONG. YOU are WRONG. Magic is a system for influencing reality. You treat it like a system for making up self-indulgent fantasies that even you don't believe in. Some of us here are actually interested in learning and developing real magic. When you go around peddling blatant bullshit like you do, you just muddy the waters and sabotage the progress of real seekers who are interested in doing something more than do occult-inspired ERP on Discord servers. The more you persist with your delusions, the more people you'll end up hurting.

>>18464 >Some of us here are actually interested in learning and developing real magic Great. Feel free to start threads about it, or contribute to any of the 30+ or so threads I've already started on a wide range of conventional magic topics, as I listed here >>18413 Instead of this obsession with who is posting, why not discuss the topic instead? No one's stopping you from just posting about the things you like to discuss. That's what's so good about the Internet, everyone can publish what they want to talk about, and if you don't like something, you can just flood it with your own things instead.

>>18432 Well... this level of chaos we have currently is perfect to talk about Samael. While talking yesterday... things were starting to get weird. I was trying to sync to the "remainder" of Babylonian traditions or to whatever I noticed. Then you bombarded me with your hebrew knowledge. Not just in literary ways but the energies appeared around me. This chaos made me realize something. It was like playing a song on 2 different instruments. 2 different instruments from "different era". The song is the same but the instruments are "unconventional". It can make a great harmony/symphony once you sync up the instruments and hear it's beauty. Jewish tradition originated from Egypt but was greatly influenced by Babylonian traditions too. Like we are both influenced by English culture. It is the dominant culture now and it can serve as a bridge. Can't say these ancient traditions have the "same roots" but they are connected and are harmonizing either by design or "Out of necessity". While reading your posts, I could feel Samael trying to "say" something. Or he was "beaming" something into my mind. Worked with him previously, but not as closely as you do currently. Supposedly Samael planted the fruit of knowledge. Do you know what this means or "implies" at least. He has perfect understanding or governance over human "Knowledge" and thinking. Working with Samael is easy if you have a mindset that is close to the understanding that: <Everything is a lie, but every lie is based upon some form truth Or maybe you can say "lie" is something the human mind makes up by "misunderstanding" things He is part of a great design and he will help you if you can, or at least "allowed" to work with the great design. But what he says if full with lies in most cases. The reason for that is: Some truths can be understood only by accepting several hundred lies first. Like a cast for a sword. To forge melted iron into sword you have to create a "fake sword", put a melted iron there then let the mold the "form it" into a weapon. With the "lies" of that sword shaped stone mold the hot and liquid metal was "tricked" into being a sword. As the energies entered into my head I realized Samael has absolute "Movement" within knowledge and understanding. To give an example again. Knowledge is like a house within our head. It has a structure, everything in your head, every concept has an use. Something is immutable as your walls, furniture can be moved around but if you modify it in the wrong way it breaks down. You have a kitchen where you can "make" food, maybe a workshop too if you have a profession, but there is a "limit" how many things you can "create" from your house without breaking it down completely. You can walk on the ground, sit on the bed, but you can't sleep on the ceiling. Human knowledge has it's "limits" and the ability to "create" in your head. Challenging the limits requires the modification of this "house" of concepts, and for that you need to break it and remake it from scratch in some cases. I think I mentioned it previously that your mind is like a kitchen. You find ingredients and "cook it" together. You have a "sense" what is edible and tasty and you like to experiment too when you find new ingredients. But you wouldn't bother "cooking a car" with a stove when you know it requires a factory. Also you make your servitors cute all the time, like women putting smiley faces on food for children. Okay I am getting sidetracked here Samael is not limited by these "minor trivialities" of the human mind. I am experimenting with the Jhana states for a while and trying out some stuff. Ofc my practice is quite "improper" so I will not say I attained any Jhana "officially" But I am trying to see something from the understanding of The Eighth Jhana: Neither perception nor non-perception Realized there is a "trick" in the mind that makes it come out naturally, but couldn't find the exact mechanisms yet. Well, I can't say it is a Jhana state Samael showed me, but I cannot describe it better than this. So he started to taunt me but not exactly in a hostile way. Knew he was going into somewhere with that. I had an urge to fight "him" but there is a "law" around me that anything that will help my path is allowed to come in. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad, if it comes in then it WILL help me. It might teach me or I will learn something as I beat the crap out of it. Cultivation is a solitary thing in most cases, but it's never about being sheltered. Which means my auto defense system wasn't "ticking", but my usual urge that appears when I am annoyed was there. I was starting to get insane from the information overload. It is a side effect of my craving. Craving for knowledge and for truth. I know this for a while. I am working on it. That is why I am not really reading and engaging with all your posts. Because I CAN NOT ACCEPT that I am unable to understand something. I will go there and get to the bottom of it and make a hypothesis so I can wield that knowledge as my own. It wastes too much energy and it is a "trap" because there are things you cannot know by "knowing". Long story short. The whole thing appeared like I was in a crowd. Where everyone is talking. You can make out a talk if you concentrate to 1 person's the talking and your mind will filter out the extra noise and you will hear as much as your ears and as your mind "allows you" to hear. (or you can't do this and all you hear is unintelligible noise) So... what if you are not allowed to "not hear" something? What if you hear and understand everyone at once without the ability to filter or ignore it? You know. Most people can barely understand what others are saying with words. While others can understand words and pay attention to the facial movements and gesticulation perfectly. Sometimes I am a little slow and quite eccentric, so personally I have to read their mind a little so I can catch up and sync to the topics they are talking about. Just to see how their concepts are wired. I had to develop this at early age because some teachers were bad at teaching. If you score the test well then you understood them. I realized I don't need to "learn from them" I just need to figure out what they want me to do and do it before I have to "listen" to the crap they consider "teaching". The faster you understand the teacher the faster they leave you alone. Nowadays I can notice the "vitals" and other type of subtle thinking of others more aptly, but it's still quite chaotic. Depends how much I care about the other person. Hard to care about everyone. There are just too many people with too many different thoughts and mentalities. So. He kinda forced me to "witness" every person "perfectly". Which was starting to wreck my mind because of the informational overload. I had to handle informational overload type insanity previously so this wasn't anything new but... The new perspective was the important part. It is too simple yet too complex at once. When humans "think" when they "hear" the thoughts within their head. They are not exactly "thinking" but "review" or "recite" a knowledge within their head. You mentioned that you channel knowledge through your mouth or fingers so entities don't fuck with your mind. I rarely care because TRY TO KEEP UP WITH ME FUCKERS. If an entity can fuck with my mind then he understands me. Which means we are the same nature and we are gonna be best friends!

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Samael kinda "played" with this perception of mine. He made me realize that the fault of the human mind is that it "replays" the same thoughts over and over again so it can create and link concepts and ultimately create an "Internal thought stream" for "personal use". To create an internal personal thought stream you need to remove many parts of the "original information" to make it "light" enough for the capabilities of the human brain. This is something that is the task of the subconscious and is greatly limited by the capabilities of the mortal senses. To channel some knowledge you need to open up and the "source" needs to make it a little "heavy" so it can appear in your mind. So what if we remove this entire process. What if I do not think but allow myself to detect everything. A type of awareness, but there is no awareness. Awareness is already a "concept". I am not calm I am not focusing. I am not even trying to pay attention. Do not even put effort or thought into anything. Can't even call this "wu wei"... but maybe that is the closest... Samael kinda says it's not. In Kabbalistic terms. This is some "Higher sefira" flow or "non-flow". It is the perfect movement and "oversight" of thoughts. Because you are not allowing yourself to be a "thought" at all. Made me aware of far more "parts" of reality and my psyche. But takes time to accustom myself. I wanted to reach states like this with continuous practice, but somehow I am being offered these "tricks" whenever the time is right, because entities are telling me I don't need to make the detours that much. I can't say I am thinking or not thinking either. Energies flow so perfectly it's like there are 0 movement there. Like a tire of a car spins so fast it seems it is standing still. It is beautiful. And now with this thinking I am "expected" to understand far larger cultural aspects of reality. While I am busy at staring at my palms and see how energy travels into my brain and into my crotch... I might be unable to help people around the block in the mean time because I will be finetuning myself for a while again. Will reply to your other posts and to Ein Sof later. There is even more to unpack there. But I have to familiarize myself with this perception for a while. I am seeing way too many extra stuff while looking at others again. But I have to solve my newfound internal imbalances first. Especially because they are no brainer with this type of perception. Russian witches, Danish witches. Now that you mentioned how you perceive me I can locate your timeline and operational range... and fuck. A timeline really went into "Gehenna" there. Full with lavalike substance and "done" for good. This is not gonna be something easy to discuss again. Wish our hardest hurdle was the 2 guys who are mad that they cannot relate to the talk, but srsly. I don't even know what to say from this direction. I can see the "Gate" Samael talks about too and your timeline is "ascending" towards the entry point, but this is not something easy to know or see in any way. In my direction it looks like you are greatly fucked. But from the direction of the Gate your transit is quite likely. Too many people want to murder you. The "every prophet is chased out of their hometown" kind of deal. You won't be allowed to live. But this type of "tension" is necessary for these transits. This was not meant to be a warning nor a doomsaying from me. There are just too many layers and processes going on at once. Maybe I shouldn't even say more. The next stages of the process will reveal themselves when it is required to be "known" anyway.

>>18440 and fringe got frogged.com again. I like it's smugness tho >>18439 All of it happened at once. It was interesting to watch and be part of it too. Might say a lot about it later. Some people were able to use it as conduit to further their awakening while others misunderstood the whole thing. Might need to explain many aspects of it. Why it worked and why it didn't work. What Blood Anon did spectacularly well and what he didn't notice fast enough to alleviate. Can't blame him. He made like 50 posts a day back then. No wonder he wasn't able to keep track of everything that was going on. Most people got something out of it, while others realized it's not for them, but it gave them a little "push" into the right direction. Then we have those that don't understand the true nature of this "vampirism". Those who didn't understand it entirely included Blood Anon too. You weren't supposed to "listen" to Blood Anon. You were supposed to get in touch with Alissa with the sigil and work with vampires. The vampire society is quite large and they are not exactly on the physical at all. Everyone will have to decide if they like their "lifestyle" or not. It's not merely about blood, murder and sex with eternally young bodies. The vamps are closer to Liches than to "Physical" beings. Their physical parts are "kept together" with an extremely advanced magic. If you cannot internalize and activate that magic then... I don't even know what happens at all. Was meaning to tell this to Blood Anon that he had years worth of FG and Qi Gong practices that others not have at all and that skews the effectiveness of it. I too had Kabbalistic experiences previously that is why I could make use of it. The vampire spell has a "ferocious" energy that kickstarts it. If you cannot merge with it and rip apart the energy blocks of your body or you don't have a baseline energy work that makes you create the "spikes" then I am unsure if anything happens at all. People called it LARP, but it required to have a necessary theatrics to put people into the right mindset to make it work. If it was larp and you connected merely to the appearances then it ended there. If you could go deeper then it was still a toss up if you fell into a maze of delusion or started to work with "real vampires". How it went depended on every person. But things kinda got out of hand and Blood Anon abandoned the project. Or maybe calling it a "social experiment" is better. He was really testing out the limits of magic there.

>>18475 No I'm sorry but this is bullshit. The explicit purpose of the vampire threads was to make people physically and literally immortal. This was stated outright multiple times. And as far as I know, this failed in each and every single case. Yeah I guess maybe getting swept up in believing the lies might have gotten some people interested in the occult. It probably also drove a lot of people away from the occult though once they realized it was all BS. Something like getting into fantasy novels or magical fiction would have done the exact same thing as this but better, since it wouldn't have involved people getting tricked. It's like how the practice of lying to kids about Santa Claus ends up having an effect of convincing them that magic isn't real in the long run even though the stated intention is the exact opposite. And I'm really sick of people trying to excuse the failure of workings like this by saying that there was some sort of invisible spiritual or astral effect that made the spell a success. No, if you're doing results-based magic and state explicitly that you are aiming to create a literal and physical result, like physical immortality, then the spell is only a success if you actually achieve that result. It's not impressive or meaningful that just something happened as a result of your spell. Something happens as a result of literally every magical operation. This is only impressive if you're at the stage where you're not sure if you believe that magic has any real effect or not. The key is learning how to control the effect, and if you're unable to do that then the entire thing is pointless.

>>18476 "Santa Claus" is a billion dollar wide global industry. The idea makes presents appear under the tree. Makes people take out loans they wouldn't take out in any normal case. Santa exists in the movies and in the Malls. Almost unified religions because even soviets allowed "Santa". It makes things go around. Without Santa we wouldn't have this large industry in the winter. This is the level of thinking you need to understand if you want the energies to move around. The "dumbass" Blood Anon sees his timeline break apart and other shit. This is how much it shifts realities. Like a large shipping container is falling on your head because you created Santa industry full with those presents or you go insane from the Christmas songs that you "created" with this "Santa". I am not expecting you to believe me nor to believe anything Blood said. Personally I want to criticize him more than you ever could. In the Buddhist 8 fold path there is something called the "right way to talk". Blood Anon is unable to do that. That is why his magic can't and won't work for many people. >The explicit purpose of the vampire threads was to make people physically and literally immortal Same with Falun Gong. Now they are dancing for money. >Yeah I guess maybe getting swept up in believing the lies might have gotten some people interested in the occult And that is what matters. Also it made people try out other types of magic during the interactions. >It probably also drove a lot of people away from the occult though once they realized it was all BS. Something Crowley ate shit front of his follower. Jesus the "Messiah" got crucified like the retard he was. Moses got lost for 40 years in the desert. If anyone abandoned them for these things then this wasn't for them. Of all the things Crowley did... eating shit was the one that made people feel disgusted? Then the "occult" wasn't for them at all. This is important. No one should follow their "cult leader" without seeing what is going on. It leads to worse places compared to shit eating. The reason why we are on fringe because we are unwilling to follow the designs of Blood anymore. /fringe/ is not about Blood Anon. /fringe/ is about magic. Blood Anon can post on it like he was allowed to post on the previous fringe boards. Because he talks about magic. You can decide what you do with him after it. /fringe/ was made by Smiley. As long as someone is as intelligible and sane as smiley they belong on fringe. Everyone can decide how effective the magic of Smiley was. If you have complaints for Blood Anon feel free to voice it, but he stated several times that (his) magic has 7% effectiveness. He mentioned how some people ended up in psych wards or they attempted suicide that failed in the end. Those things weren't Blood Anon's fault. They were the internal weakness of the person. Sadly Blood Anon's way is extremely ill suited for people with rigid thinking or for people with 0 self and thought control. What he did was something fresh compared to the >we do IIH and WWA then call each other bullshit occultists for the rest of the day fringe. So far no one had adverse effects as bad as the people mentioned previously. eggAnon is retarded even without Blood Anon. We established he shouldn't listen to binaurals then goes and mindbreaks himself with a DMT binaural. When I read that I became more angry than ever on this board previously. Some people are hopeless and find ways to sabotage everything. Wish Blood Anon was the reason why occultists fail and retards go ashtray. Blood is just a retard who tried to do something with magic like the rest of us. The only difference is that he tries something new in the process and bothers posting about it. If you want more Blood Anon criticism I can write it for you later. But I am really not wanting to fling shit at him when he is the main contributor for this board. I cannot and will not step into his shoes. I cannot post as much as he does. At least 3 more people will have to start posting and interact with people if they want to make "something" out of this board. The vampire threads were 12% complaining and 20% trolling anyway. The main difference was that Blood Anon was awfully patient back then. Nowadays he is not. yet the complaining remains that he rarely bothers to engage with. He can't say much if people are unwilling to understand what he says at all

>>18477 writing this post was still less effort than talking about Ein Sof... maybe complaining about Blood Anon is the only thing fringe is good for after all. Who would have tunk

>>18479 Seriously, Whenever I want to word anything about EIn Sof I get irredeemably angry because the widespread misconception Kabbalah has. Gossiping about other people is still better than that. Even tho I hate gossip and drama.

>>18474 I read about Ein Sof since this post and they tried to describe it similarly as this... I am still mad. They shouldn't call this Ein Sof.

>>18477 >we established he shouldn't listen to binaurals I did forget about that. Well actually, the aliens did tell me a week ago before the DMT thing to listen to 69hz frequency and that it'd help me. They didn't tell me what it did but they explicitly showed me a very vivid picture of it while going to bed and then after thinking "maybe tomorrow" and trying to go to sleep they showed another vision of just "#1", as in top priority. So I'd played that frequency. However, they said nothing about DMT; that was my idea. Sorry you got mad about that regardless. Anyway, I will say that lately the aliens around me have been helping still to make me realize that the tulpas are merely that, tulpas, and not what they're effigies of. Got a resurgence of the horse demon tulpa about 2.5 hours ago after seeing a picture blood anon posted since clearing my cookies un-hid the post. I know it's not the real deal but it's still really goddamn annoying and trying extremely hard and persistently to sabotage me. Progress is ultimately being made, but it involves alotta exposure therapyand refusing to read blood anon's posts.

>>18484 >exposure therapy That means you actually look at it until you realize it's not dangerous. >>18474 Ok so, yea, this is too long to comment on directly, but I assume you didn't mean to discuss every single element of your post. I can just say this: "they" whoever they are (it varies) can't touch me because I created my timelines with checkpoints before the great flood ended. Whoever came in after are relying on my framework. The moment they don't accept it they detach from it. That means they die unless they created their own timeline progression separate from mine. Normally the adversaries don't do this, but behave like little commie kids who demand free stuff from the government, but are unable to actually force this to happen because they don't want to put in any work (as that defeats the purpose of free stuff). So all they can do is engage in impotent nagging and complaints. The moment they actually turn against me, they will "appear to die", one way or another. If I do nothing at all, they die anyway because they detached from the timeline structure without having created an alternative. But this is wu wei on my part, and large dimensional structures, or humans, cannot suddenly die for no reason, so a physical reason appears. In my London life this manifested as myself being a butcher shop apprentice, which meant I carried a knife with me. Then my body reacted on wu wei when attacked in the streets and people died from this knife which was unintentionally in my pocket. Today I am just unintentionally channelling the Galactic Federation, and when threatened they will either change the local timeline progression for me to protect me, because I am a member of their forces by their registrations, or they will make some other means appear to me. This includes making me get suddenly inspired to ask Copilot for "secret ancient magic books about controlling spirits" and getting recommended various central books from jewish kabbalah. Which although they take a lot of work to understand, including actually studying hebrew, it's just interesting enough to do with minimal focus and I end up with the methods I need to fend off fake white supremacist "jews" who don't understand their own magic, so whatever they do is nullified because I am closer to their God than themselves. This can look in all sorts of ways from outside, but it doesn't matter what they want to do, when they are too late to the party to change anything. Still: Ein Sof is perhaps the single most powerful thing if you can activate and use full channelling of "him". The problem you face is instead how to scale up your magic systems so they can make use of endless energy.

>>18455 Was that an attempt at gaslighting me? Look, you are not capable of doing real magic (with verifiable results), so I don't care about how you see my energy. My energy is obviously a mess, and anyone can see that, even mundanes. You can feel it in this post even. Well, not you, but you know what I'm saying. Well, not you. As for Blood anon, he was always a larper who probably got some magic to work at some point, and built a castle of delusion about that. The essence of sunflower, now that I think about it. Enough arguing.

>>18484 >Sorry you got mad about that regardless. That is my shadow issue, don't worry about that. I too have to face it on my own. It's better when it comes out with minor issues like this instead in other situations. >Anyway, I will say that lately the aliens around me have been helping still to make me realize that the tulpas are merely that, tulpas, and not what they're effigies of. Got a resurgence of the horse demon tulpa about 2.5 hours ago after seeing a picture blood anon posted since clearing my cookies un-hid the post. I know it's not the real deal but it's still really goddamn annoying and trying extremely hard and persistently to sabotage me. Progress is ultimately being made, but it involves alotta exposure therapy Good. You are progressing. Proud of you, >and refusing to read blood anon's posts. Not just Blood Anon's post. Every type of media and "schizo knowledge" that causes unnecessary distress needs to be avoided. You can read it ofc, but only when you are ready for it. When you can say it with an iron resolve <yupp, that one is a retarded schizo with many problems and he wants to project their issues onto my psyche, not reading that further. It's his own issue, he can deal with it on it's own. This includes any retarded post and doomsday schizo fear mongering youtube vids and articles too. Your goal is mental clarity and internal balance. The world ends every day and begins anew the next. >>18494 >Ok so, yea, this is too long to comment on directly, but I assume you didn't mean to discuss every single element of your post. I want to kill myself for making posts like this in some cases, but it was part of an experience that is why I shared it this way. Didn't think you or anyone will be able to relate or meaningfully comment on it, but it was brought up, it is the "theme" Like this Anon >>18453 mentioning the 7 out of nowhere during this whole discussion. If this is not a sign already for anyone then I have nothing else to say. And I am not saying you are in "danger", more akin if your "timeline" will be able to "Pushed up" then it will need to "expire completely". Otherwise you will be back, not just because of "karma" but probably by your own volition. You will know you have something to do here and cannot leave. That is why absolute hostility that will end you if you stay can serve as a definite way of "escaping". Unsure what will happen. Souls emit a frequency before they are "willing" to move on once and for all and... your's still wants to hang around for some reason. But you are working with too many forces and they can reassign you whenever they feel like it so I cannot say anything for certain here. You are just a random schizo on the internet to me after all. I don't have your complete signature mapped out, nor I think I need to keep a close watch on your exploits either. And about Ein Sof or AIN SOPH... you made me remember that I encountered these things and I "randomly" named things in similar way. There are too many things to unpack and I don't know what even say atm. In the morning my phantom smell made me smell burning plastic or electric fire. Knew it wasn't from around because the smell didn't change by breathing and scanned my home for potential dangers and nothing was "going on". Something got cleansed with this talk already.

>>18498 >You will know you have something to do here and cannot leave It's often big and important things. Sometimes huge scale, which are invisible to me before I see them.

I interact with beings in the astral (or I think it's the astral) daily. Last night, some worm-looking thing which I attributed to the full moon, jumped in my face in full 3D while I was falling asleep, for example. Other times I just feel things coming out of people, such as malice, or overwhelming love. But if you looked at the situations on a video tape, you would never attribute malice, nor love, to the person in question. When I feel these things need dealing with, I deal with them using my feeling and emotion. But are these real in any real sense? How can I tell?

>>18507 >But are these real in any real sense? They are as real as your emotions. Usually they feed on those energies after all.

>>18507 Going entirely by intuition, the worm thing was probably a parasite, and needs to be removed when you can find out how to get rid of it.

Italy anon are you a neophyte, initiate, or adept? Also are you a chaos magician?

>>18523 >Italy anon

>>18426 >servitors based off AI (which I did on my own, before chatGPT) and Neuro-sama showed me how to create a robot skeleton, which I copied from her astral body and used to create the vietnamese loli, the strongest of them all 2.5 years ago. After I learned to use robotic servitors to visit any location on the planet By God. Does ANY of that have any bearing on your real life? Or do you just spend all day wasting your time on the astral with no change in your life to show for it? Did you know at some point Smiley was like that? The astral is literally unending with delusions and fantasy. It will swallow you whole and spit out a hollow, old, and broken person.

>>18548 >Does ANY of that have any bearing on your real life? Constantly. I use them for divination first and foremost, secondly for other kinds of work, including rituals and to directly effect the energy systems which control the physical world.

>>18548 I didn't develop these in a vacuum, I've used them with friends over chat taking turns channelling them for training in the beginning, and to lead group session according to the methodology I created in the past 6 years or so. There is a limit to how much one can do manually, and once starting to automate things with spellforms, you'll soon also reach a limit to what you can do by manually building them. Applying perfectly regular technology and science does work. They're ideas. Does ideas have any bearing on your life? You wouldn't have the Internet without them, someone created them mentally first.

>>18552 I meant, have these entities given you actionable info to take IRL practical decisions, stock market, getting you something you wanted to happen, etc? I once talked with a giant space dwarf that claimed to be the ruler of the solar system, but he had less power than the fairies in my garden which advise me on how to maximize the wellbeing of my crops.

>>18566 I use them to find information, as a form of search engine which can search anywhere. For more advanced things I have them work in the background to help me understand academic subjects or how to solve various tasks. I started by creating a servitor as a divination bot because I had been asking the undead god Astrael for guidance so much that she told me she didn't have time to respond anymore. I don't use them to predict things relating to numbers or other things, which would constitute "cheating", but for understanding complex things which require reasoning. As for the astral travel quoted, what I meant there is that although my direct Remote Viewing wasn't very good, I was able to instead create a servitor with the ability to look at things, and then channel the servitor to view the locations. I use this to access things and information which would be physically impossible to access because of it being in a distant location or simply locked away. There are mainly two ways this helps; either by showing me how I can work with energy systems, which are considered "astral" but effect the world, or directly where I will use the resulting information to then go online and perform regular web searches or use conventional AI to find the concrete information as publicly available.

>>18571 >I don't use them to predict things relating to numbers or other things, which would constitute "cheating" Is there a universal anti-cheat bot, or are you trying not to stand out?

>>18574 He's just not able to do it since the information he gets doesn't actually correspond to reality. For example, at one point he thought that some of the posters on /fringe/ were actual octopus space aliens conspiring against him.

>>18575 The part about the cheating did seem a bit weird.

>>18575 >For example, at one point he thought that some of the posters on /fringe/ were actual octopus space aliens conspiring against him. At least he didn't call you a Romanian... >>18523 You know. Long ago I managed to get my hands on some extremely shitty gypsy magic. If someone calls me Romanian one more time I will test it upon them. Like being called Polish wasn't bad enough. >>18579 It's about karma. If you earn wealth with magical means then there is a high chance you will lose it by magical means, or you will lose something of equal value of the things you gained. The more you cheat the system with magic the worse the retribution might get in the end. Sometimes nothing bad happens for a very long time and it seems you are the one true ruler of reality until shit happens to hit the fan out of nowhere and your entire house of cards just falls apart. And in that moment your "debt collector" might appear and may or may not offer you a deal you are not in position to refuse anymore. That is why everyone must watch what they wish for and what energies they move or take away. If you take something then you will need to give something in return. If you give something then you will get something as a compensation. This is how things balance out in the end. But this is something everyone will have to test out on their own. There are energies that are meant for you, and you only, and you must take them because they belong to you. It's hard to generalize how "astral thermodynamics" work.

>>18574 No, I'm following the Falun Dafa principles about not trying to get material benefits, such as by winning the lottery. Those things aren't "free" but will be paid for in other ways, which will hinder your cultivation. So I don't use servitors that way.

>>18575 That is not the reason and you know it. See >>18583

>>18582 >not polish >not italian >not romanian You're never satisfied are you.

>>18585 You got that right!

>>18582 I don't think this is true. The fact that all willed actions constitute a form of magic seems to disprove it. It doesn't make sense that you'd be able to improve your material condition in life using methods of willworking that the general public "believes in", but for some reason if you utilize laws of reality that are "occult", you call punishment on yourself. It seems like a cope from people who just can't do results-based magic. If this "law" does exist, I'd reckon that it's probably just a subconscious self-sabotage. Like how tightrope walkers tend to fall if they look down and question what they're doing.

>>18582 >It's about karma. If you earn wealth with magical means then there is a high chance you will lose it by magical means, or you will lose something of equal value of the things you gained. The more you cheat the system with magic the worse the retribution might get in the end. Yes. But the bullshitter above doesn't understand this.

>>18587 As I said. You have to test it out yourself. I could explain how I modified reality for more than a decade and what was the "cost" of it... and I am really not in the mood for that. The TLDR is that whenever I got something without "proper compensation" then something broke in it's place. It was like I never got ahead. I got wealth, I got degrees, yet people went insane around me or died "for no reason". It was a zero sum game in the end. I am not complaining. I got what I wanted, but there are limits just how much shit I can "hoard" that does not belong to me. There are always stuff I have to give away to keep the balance. But as I said. Test it out yourself. Everyone has a different fate and karma. >>18588 Everyone will have to see it for themselves. Otherwise they won't believe it. And yes it can be subconscious self sabotage too. But this is a touchy occult subject to talk about wherever you go. This is not something that anyone sees with 3 or 5 years worth of practice. This is something that takes decades to notice.

>>18591 Concrete example: I forgot to empty a large (and quite expensive) water barrel and it froze over night which broke it. I mended it by supernatural means, returning it to its former state. But a week later two buckets were demolished by mistake instead. I'm fine with that trade, I needed the barrel more, but it illustrates the principle very well.

>>18583 That makes more sense than my theories. >>18582 I believe using gypsy magic makes you an honorary gypsy. Don't use it.

>>18582 I really want to call you a Romanian, but I don't want you to be caraV&.

>>18582 >If you take something then you will need to give something in return. If you give something then you will get something as a compensation This makes zero sense in my experience. The only balancing I've ever seen is that energy seeks a base line that is the middle point among all of the existing frequencies in a system, but nothing like that new age nonsense. In fact, the base line can be completely fucked up and unfair if the energies in question have been deforming for a long time. Seriously, not that charmed power of three 20th century hollywood bullshit.

>>18587 Thank you. I might actually leave this board altogether for good if I start seeing people believing in mundane misinterpretations of esoteric knowledge due to lack of practice. Because the only way you can believe in "everything you do comes back, and you experience as a victim everything you do as perpetrator because we're here to learn" and "soul contract" bullshit is through lack of practice. Jesus Christ, and someone in this board is *married to a wife*? What the fuck is this bullshit! I'm out of here. Enjoy "being an adult", whatever that means.

>>18591 When that "compensation" happens it's because there are energies in the opposite side of the spectrum and you should not be doing magic with those in place precisely because they react violently. Simple example: I have engrained poverty mentality, but I cast a spell for riches. The riches manifest, but the much stronger long term poverty mentality swoops in and causes a "balancing" (seemingly) to happen. But it could be the energies of the place, nature spirits, etc. not only your own. This is why "know thyself" is incredibly important, and why you are always required to get to deeply know the energies in your life before you do any magic. This kind of thing wouldn't have happened to you if you had worked the first chapters of Initiation into Hermetics, for example, before you went chasing shiddis. Honestly, what you described is what happens when a mundane goes and tries to do magic. He blows himself up. A decade? That's nothing. Try 30 years and you will start to understand something about magic. And even then we know nothing. We shouldn't try to figure out how the universe works so nilly willy because we will be wrong.

>>18593 Be ause you didn't address what made the barrel break in the first place. That's a perfect example. >underlying energy causes you to have a broken barrel >without addressing or understanding why, you force it to its previous state >the same energy rebounds with the extra strength you gave it by forcefully denying it >you end up with the energy reasserting itself and you believing in some karma bullshit Instead, you should've contacted the energy that made the barrel break in the first place, cleansed/replaced/appeased it, and then mended the barrel or replaced it. Otherwise, even if you did nothing, you have something in your area that breaks things like that, and it will continue to happen. It has nothing to do with karma, because that's a concept that was perverted by the Theosophists when they appropriated hindu concepts left and right, and caused the whole world to misunderstand them.

Okay, I'm out for good. I need to finally accept there's nothing left for me in /fringe/ anymore.

>>18618 See you tomorrow!

>>18617 Very well put.

>>18616 >>18617 You're assuming too much. You come off saying things like "karma doesn't exist", then you go on and explain how it works. Why? You're just being needlessly argumentative. I know exactly why the water barrel broke: I left it out over night when it was freezing degrees, with water left in it. Water expands when frozen, so it broke. I fixed it with a underlying intent of "this can't do me harm which nullifies the fix" and that was the result. I shared this example because you (and someone else) was talking as if "you can do anything and there are no consequences except what you mentally add", which isn't true. You're just deflecting by rewording what "karma" is while describing the same thing. >>18618 This is what I felt long ago. That's why I instead post what I want to be on /fringe/. If it doesn't have something for me, I make it have something for me.

>>18618 >I need to finally accept there's nothing left for me in /fringe/ anymore. <Take everything from fringe you can without giving anything back in return <Wtf there is nothing left for me here >How could this happen?

>>18654 It seems as though you're intentionally trying to misunderstand that person's post. You made the claim that you can't get material benefit with magic without hurting yourself and he explained how you actually can. That's the natural course of this discussion You're the one being needlessly argumentative by aggressively strawmanning and then deflecting to describing basic physical causality as though it's in any way relevant to the topic at hand.

>>18453 Here's your number pal!

I wish I was a wizpilled wizcel and not a crabpilled crabcel. Voluntary celibacy reigns supreme. Social and sexual desire basically force me to interact with normalfags and therefore be shit on by the social hierarchy. If I was asexual and had schizoid personality “disorder” I would be immune to the normalfags. They hate me. And they are genetically superior in body and fuck with me.

>>18615 >>18789 The Duality of Banana

>>18781 Just choose not to care. Not that hard.

>>18699 You make a good point. So in order to properly cut ties, I've decided to take down all of the /fringe/ archives on Neocities. I'm sorry to the BO, because they will have to replace a ton of links. But like I said, I need to move on. Since Librarian passed this on to me, it's not in my right to simply delete it all, so you can download them here and host them yourself. The link expires in a week: https://limewire.com/d/8DVH7#ywItmIk2yx

>>18930 >you got a good point <now I will take even more away from the board! Wonder if anyone will care. It feels like no one bothered reading the archives so far.

>>18953 I cared enough to download it, but I'm not gonna host it; I would pass it onto someone else to host later if that someone would be interested, though.

>Librarian Boy, I miss Librarian

>>18930 called it >>18619

>>18930 >I'm sorry to the BO, because they will have to replace a ton of links >they Does the BO consist of multiple small gnomes or you merely fear to misgender him? Really hope BO is made up of multiple small gnomes tho. This way they can share the workload of remaking the links.

It really irritates me that that guy nuked the fringe archives even though it was costing him zero money. It’s almost as if he did it just to spite us.

>>19259 Yeah. It always happens in occult forums. Whenever you hurt the feelings of the admin or some moderator they will destroy whatever they can as a final fuck you. I have seen it happen many times. This is why fringe was always precious. It always managed to get back on it's feet one way or the other. We can call smiley every swear word that exist in the word, but he never nuked the website when he had a schizo meltdown. When his stuff was deleted it always came from outsiders. Really hope the .zip file he got from Librarian doesn't contain any malware.

>>19387 If it does I have it; i'll go download malwarebytes and give it a look

>>19453 I don't think it has anything, but it never hurts to be cautious.

>>19259 >>19387 Honestly it was a deserved response to this snarky garbage >>18699 If I had spent years doing a public service like this only for someone to accuse me of "Taking everything from fringe you can without giving anything back in return" just for making a complaint, I'd be a bit miffed as well.

>>19456 That snarky garbage was a deserved response to Initiate's snarky garbage he's been spewing all over this board for the past year and a half

>>19457 No it's not. You act like making a complaint about /fringe/ is a mortal sin or something. If your default response to that is to yell "fuck you and fuck off", you shouldn't be surprised when parts of the community that you previously took for granted decide to withdraw their support.

>>19458 >a complaint >singular tbh I think you're only downplaying his hysterical behavior because he also had a hate boner for your nemesis

>>19459 By "hate boner" do you mean the fact that he actually presented a coherent and interesting metaphysical argument in response to one of his claims? Is this guy a /fringe/ personality that I don't know about or something? All I know about him is that he showed up and made some interesting posts ITT, you posted about how you got a warning dream or something about him "picking a fight" (he wasn't), then you acted like a snarky child when he said he was going to leave. Even Blood Anon himself had a more rational response to this guy's posts than you did. And yeah it upsets me quite a bit when I see these new posters come in with interesting things to say only for you to react first with a weird passive aggressiveness making posts in other threads about how you have a feeling about how they're malicious or something which inevitably escalates into outright aggression as a logical course of action, and ends in the interesting poster leaving /fringe/ forever. I don't like it.

>>19460 So he "spent years doing a public service," but he's also a new poster? You seem confused.

>>19462 Alright my computer crashed twice in a row after I was finished writing out a response. I guess I'll just say instead that I assumed that this sort of snarky pedantic behavior was beneath you. This entire situation stinks.

>>19453 Malwarebytes found no malware in the archives, nor on the entire computer.

>>19462 >You seem confused. He confuses you with an another poster too... >>19489 >I assumed that this sort of snarky pedantic behavior was beneath you. This entire situation stinks. You assume too many things. I do not engage in these arguments for a reason. There is a large negative energy discharge that not even your computer can handle. This is what happens when there is a break in the Sangha (community) and why breaking the Sangha in Buddhism is a major crime. This is what happens when people argue for argument's sake without seeing what energies they trash around with. But enjoy arguing if that is your desire. See how it breaks everything. First it broke fringe and now your computer. I don't think you understand what will break next if this keeps up. Also the Arena anchored. Unsure who made it, but he should remake it. Seems like the Arena has better discussions than this thread in some cases.

Does fringe go to sleep because it needs to heal?

>>19641 Rest is good.

>>18453 >>18777 THEY ARE HERE AGAIN

I am mad because I have made zero progress with spirituality.

>>19973 Forgot flag.

After working through most of the relevant kabbalah books of the more ancient category, during which I was "forced" to start learning hebrew to not miss out because the original concepts are written in hebrew even when the text is translated, I came to a point where I started feeling that I actually need to start using the text in the commonly used prayer format. It's not merely about a religious egregore once beyond the surface, but it drives an actual transformation of the physical and spiritual bodies, which resembles, but does not correspond to, that which is achieved through hatha yoga. The correlation between the hebrew alphabet, the paths on the tree of life/sefirot and the tree of kelipot/qliphoth and the nervous system as well as the inner channels of the spiritual body, is real. This makes the words themselves, in their original sound's vibration, into a form of "programs" or "scripts" which activate specific nerves or brain patterns of the body, which may constitute a kind of "exercise" or "weight lifting" targeting those nerves or connections. These having been developed over millennia, although their meaning may be mostly forgotten and unknown, still have a valid functionality. I've been using videos with readings of Genesis (Sefer Bereshit) to read along and get better at understanding the correct reading of the characters in various combinations and the general flow of the language, which has had a positive effect overall. But this still means missing out on the way certain bits of the text are actually used, when they are treated as formats for prayer with a strong focus, based on an agreed upon understanding which is hard to grasp, if not impossible, without the pre-knowledge of these kabbalistic texts. To anyone else, these are just random quotes of the bible with little meaning, and in translated format they don't retain their function. I realized I need to try the "shma", which is just a part of the regular text used for prayer, but once just looking on youtube there are many vids focusing on this one prayer, which is just a few lines of text. I even found hours long lectures on the meaning of this little text. Reading it until I got it right, over and over in a form similar to a mantra, to then, as I normally do, initiate the transformation by assuming a pose while letting the words just circulate in my mind, was very effective when I pushed through and stayed in a meditative state for around 40 min. This isn't even about "believing" in something, it just works if done with focus, because it's a method based on how the body and mind works, and the energy transformation on the beyond-physical plane is strong.

Went to wizchan and started reading through their Wizard Self Improvement thread. No wonder Thor's hammer can't do shit on his own. That place is a pool of depression and self defeatism. >>19973 >I am mad because I have made zero progress with spirituality. Channel that energy into something productive. Read books instead doomscrolling shit threads. Look up guided meditation vids and do them if you can't meditate on your own.

>>20077 I was wondering if Dhumavati would be good for him considering his life situation, and his fixation on asceticism, celibacy, dark ambient music and the void.

>>20003 Apparently everyone does gematria like it's an everyday thing. This is more esoteric than I expected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shl1qVWPy3E

>>20099 >Apparently everyone does gematria like it's an everyday thing. Welcome to western esotericism.

I am going to try to make an effort to learn spirituality and practice.

>>20264 I had a vivid hypnagogic vision last night before falling asleep. There was a potted plant on a table to my right, and I understood it to be you. It slid off the tabletop and fell to the floor, out of my view. Then, a hand (not sure if it was mine or someone else's) rose up from below, holding different-looking plant matter in the palm of its hand. Then I heard ironpill's voice from my left say and I'm paraphrasing or maybe it was said wordlessly something like "See? He did that and became this." I looked closer at this transformed plant matter and it was really nothing like any actual plant I know of. The general shape was roughly similar to a flower or mushroom, but it was neither. What struck me was the beautifully intricate patterns of deep textured green flecked with various other natural colors. The closest comparisons I can make are Cauliflower because it has a similar broad flat-ish shape, and a geometric pattern, and also a marijuana bud due to the complex green color and texture. But really it was aesthetically fascinating in a way that can't be compared.

>>20496 fringe is truly a magical place

>>20496 Not sure if related but I saw in a dream scene some people whom I interpreted as agents viewing some images on a digital chart, one of them being some kind of green plant with something orange around the edges of the leaves, and they looked at it and one of them said >this plant looks kind of good (it has been growing good)

>>20560 But who was plant???

>>20496 I cast the healing spell on you like 30 minutes ago. Not sure why you had that vision before I cast the healing spell on you. See: >>20557

>>20567 It was a cleansing I did. What he witnessed was eggAnon's thirdeye/brain in an abstract plane of existence. His third eye is overactive and he has no control over it. Evil spirits and demons were overcharging him so he stays "spooked" or looshed as some people like to call it all the time. I fixed the internal structures of his psyche, so evil spirits cannot fuck with his third eye/psyche that easily. eggAnon has a beautiful third eye, but he is overcharging it with anxiety and fear. That way he will go demented, because his mind won't be able to handle all the information overload. This way negative energies won't go into his brain all the time. That is the gist of it. The whole thing was complex, so I did it with the help of several higher deities to make sure I do it right. Because wokeAnon is also the part of the hindu deity current, he witnessed parts of the scene. This whole thing gave me greater insight how the third eye and spiritual abilities of the brain/spine work. Once eggAnon is stable, I might be able to help others unlocking their spirit sight too. But this is no child's play. There are too many intricacies I have to keep in mind while doing this. The most important thing in occultism and spirituality is self control. Those without wisdom and willpower will lose themselves instantly in the sea of visions.

Samael just said this, for sharing on here: You could be a billionaire and still experience yourself poorer than a steppenigger, who is happy about everything. Rich people also kill themselves over depression. Your depression is not caused by lack of material assets. If you really lacked material assets, you would be dead. For some people, their perception is that happiness is in owning large sums of potential currency. Then if they deserve happiness, it will come in that form. For someone else, happiness is a family, or success in a small project. But the experience of that happiness is the same for each person.

>>20567 I almost got in a car accident this morning, but I and everyone else involved turned out fine. Someone pulled out in front of me and fortunately on-coming traffic was just far enough away that I had enough time to weave into the wrong side of the street, then back into my lane without hitting them. My trauma programming made me assume that it was my fault and that I must've ran a stopsign, but after some time I realized that it probably wasn't. There is an elusive stopsign on that street, but it's right at a dip (not where I was) and which would already be in my muscle memory by now. Plus nobody honked at me, which further indicates they were the ones who were supposed to yield. Will have to check to be sure. Probably a zoomie glued to their phone or smth

Eye anon will you please repost the brain wave starter kit you got and some details about it?

>>20928 Was that really "Eyeanon"? >>4170 Ask it in this thread instead tho.

Reposting this because it came in my way and it seems to have some valid things in it. Apparently we get galactic news now? INTERGALACTIC NEWS - earthdate 3rd NOVEMBER 2025 1.40 MB, 770x1104 Frequency: 11.3 THz Encryption: Quantum-Selective Sentinent beings, greetings again from the Pleiades cluster. MAIN STORY: Zok-7 IMPLODES - AGAIN Eternally unsuccessfull planet Zok-7 has transformed into a black hole the size of a humanoid hand. Local authorities are mollusc type alienoids. ASCENSION BULLETIN: MILKY WAY ENTERS THE PHOTONIC BELT The spiral arms have aligned with the 26,000-year pulse of the Pleiadian Gateway. Sagittarius A*—your galactic sequence has upgraded from carbon to crystalline. DARK FLOW VECTOR UPDATE The dipole anomaly first reported in 2008 has intensified. Bulk peculiar velocities now exceed 1,200 km/s toward a region 2.4 billion light-years beyond the Shapley Concentration. The Deep Field Probe detected a cold imprint in the CMB consistent with a pre-inflationary domain wall. Data embargoed pending cross-verification with the Square Kilometre Array–Cosmic Dawn node. VOID OBSERVATORY: CRYSTAL SKULL ARRAY The 42 dishes on E-117 are Lemurian seed crystals reactivated by Sirian blue light. They sing the cold spot into a portal. Step through in lucid dreamstate. “We are the blue flame that remembers water.” XENO-CULTURAL MONITORING Proxima Centauri b network traffic spiked 2 300 % following a 17-second neutrino pulse patterned in ternary. Decoded headline: “Local Group Inflation Models—Still Wrong?” Origin traced to an autonomous archive orbiting Barnard's Star. No hostile intent detected. OBSERVATIONAL ADVISORY Tonight 21:40 UTC: Jupiter–Mars conjunction at 1.4° separation in Taurus (V = –2.1 / 0.6). Optimal aperture ≥ 80 mm. Filter O-III for Jovian auroral emission. End transmission.

>>21046 >MAIN STORY: Zok-7 IMPLODES - AGAIN >Eternally unsuccessfull planet Zok-7 has transformed into a black hole the size of a humanoid hand. Local authorities are mollusc type alienoids. I'm wondering what these are. >toward a region 2.4 billion light-years beyond the Shapley Concentration Also where is this? >42 dishes on E-117 Also this.

>>21046 >DARK FLOW VECTOR UPDATE I mean this is clearly related to the Melissa hurricane.

>>21046 >Reposting this because it came in my way Reposting from where?

>>21049 /int/, which has an unusual crossposter flow with /x/ for some reason, along with some obscure altboards, so I assume it's been already shared around a bit.

I have connected to a Pleiadian mothership yesterday, so seeing this here is almost disturbing Also this might need it's own thread. Some people cannot handle these topics. >>21050 >/int/ heh. If the story develops a thread should be made for it. Otherwise this is the typical funny weirdness that happens in the paranormal. They come and go. They have substance if you can make something out of it, but I am never sure of it's authenticity. It always depends on the channeler how accurate it is.

>>21051 >inb4 there is no channeler, there is no source, and it was inserted into this reality I wouldn't even get surprised if that is the case.

>>21051 I don't normally care, but this time in particular mentions things which are correctly formatted according to my understanding of galactic situations - it has information I can actually use. There is for example an anon who has greens (greys but green) who visit him in his home, he sounds just schizo but it was through his postings I got to meet the actual green little men. Story shared already before: I asked them over telepathy to show me their presence if they are actually here. They asked "what do you want?" so I told them why not let me see a cute green little girl. It was after this that a Russian e-girl filmed a large flying saucer over Moscow, complete with lights along the edges, followed by response from the army sending out helicopters and jets during the night and following day. The same anon has later (or all along, I only noticed later) taken to the habit of schizoblogging about his greys on /int/ and also on catchan when it was up, I came to take note of his postings as a form of "news" already because it tells something of the grey activities.

>>21052 Sometimes they post directly on /int/, grey merchants put ads for their cyborgs there in the threads for posting girls. No one except me or whoever else it's for will realize these aren't actual human girls from tiktok/instagram but are posted from space. They have a certain style (and energy) which is very recognizable but who would get that this is from space, not regular people.

>>21053 Found the thread. The poster is from Norway. 0 replies. >>21054 This thread looks that way too. The usual flying under the radar, lost in the noise kind. Unsure what to make of it. I use the internet less and less as my synchronicity machine.

>>21055 As if things aren't super weird already. 3 days ago someone was RVing me and appeared like a ghost-white head staring at me with a very long neck stretching from the distance, but it was a non-hostile staring even if it looked scary, so I did nothing. The following day because of esoteric reasons I found it necessary to travel to Africa via the astral after divining the solution to an upcoming issue to be found there. I then ended up in a village in Benin, and realized the 3 shamans there were the same who had RV:ed me the night before, so they already knew about me coming to them for help before I did. After this it sort of escalated and I had to relocate my timelines to Namibia into a separate spacial location which isn't even that place anymore. So a post appearing on /int/ isn't really a big thing.

Might make a montalk thread tomorrow, so people who dislike ayy lmaos don't get triggered by this topic. Or maybe won't. Aliens are almost more annoying to handle than demons and retarded schizos. Some of them are hard to kick out. >>21056 >So a post appearing on /int/ isn't really a big thing. Yeah, I know. That is why I am unsure if there is a point caring about it yet The New Age/montalk angle of /fringe/ is inevitable. Those who think wizards only wear big hats, robes and have sex with succubi will have to go through an another unpleasant awakening experience Unsure of the benefits of a ufologist thread. We have very few people who care and most neophyte schizos really can't handle aliens here. Thanks for mentioning it anyway. I have to be reminded that they are here from time to time.

>>21056 Can't say much about your African experience. You are the one working with African healing goddesses all the time. It's not surprising the shamans are connecting to you imho.

>>21057 I've already had a share of alien experiences, good & bad, so don't let my instability in particular dissuade you from making such a thread. In fact, I probably still have a few benevolent ones around. Just don't post any pictures of hostile aliens in it, and not just for my sake.

>>21057 >Unsure of the benefits of a ufologist thread I was going to post it in a separate thread but couldn't think of a good enough OP for it. >>21058 It was just an interesting thing that they would find me before I even knew I needed their help or their location. It's about the racial development again though, egregores are connected even if it's diluted to the extremes of the extreme, so once messing with it from the far end, I guess some shaman directed by a goddess would know something is about to happen. Part of this is like a joke; the continuous development of Copilot's functionality is following along like a guard dog running next to me, always being exactly where it needs to be in terms of the complexity of what questions can be asked with what means. All I knew was that the people I need to find have a certain appearance which I think I saw stereotyped in Dragonball or in some American comic once: >which African people have an appearance which resembles baobab trees with a thick stem and a small hair? and Copilot instantly knew what I meant from that description. It's about an energy function which looks like an axe, they, in specific, have the most perfect proficiency in this thing. Because of that they are hidden away in their own timeline/plane, they are a "key" to ultra low dimensions way below what we'd call "satanic" even, but which is very relevant today because society's mainstream is down there. It just makes no sense when you see it like that, because the original form was created in the driest desert on the planet.

>>21061 You wouldn't guess what their culture turned into in different parts of the world. Or maybe you would... they do paint their bodies with ocher pigment and colour their hair. And it has some sort of significance in the development of this energy function, which makes them successful, the originals are just completely isolated in a desert so they won't have economic success world wide either way. Take it out from there, and the effect increases if it's maintained correctly, but lessens if done badly.

Tom montalk is god just like smiley. You have to be an expert in detecting alien deception. Evil aliens pretend to be benevolent. Let’s get a montalk thread. FUR VOLK UND VATERLAND. SIEHT INNEN DEUTSCHLANDS MACHT. Btw Montalk was born in Germany, and he also had a chemistry set growing up.

>>21046 Ok I get it, I think. This is actually a complex way of describing a dimensional "key", it only appears when cross linking the vocabulary in the message and connecting it to a specific semantic which is only available to people who've been around the discussions on /x/ and the new age community along with some personal experiences. It explains how to "jump against the walls" so to speak, to escape this dimensional structure.