Do we really need another "open discussion" type general? We already have two, the blog and the intrusive thoughts thread. Three if you count the Awakening thread. I don't like the feeling of having all these redundant overlapping general threads for every class of discussion. It's very messy.

>>13992 These blog threads barely last for a month because they get filled up all the time. Especially if someone is fueling the flame. The current intrusive thoughts thread is a /b/ containment thread. The Awakening General is bumplocked. I want the blog thread to be as a blog thread and not as an argument and semi-help and guidance thread. This thread is aimed to serve the function of the previous Blog Threads. not as a new type of blog thread >It's very messy This is what this new thread tries to avoid. It should reduce the mess instead of increasing it. >I don't like the feeling of having all these redundant overlapping general threads for every class of discussion The current blog thread >>13990 is not for discussion. It is for writing a proper blogpost that you wish to share with this board. The goal with this new thread is to finally make this change possible. We don't have an "another open discussion" thread because the previous ones got filled up and anchored already. They are sinking in the catalogue as we speak. This is not an another general. This is the usual blog discussion thread for those who wish to discuss fringe topics on this board.

I really like the new Intrusive thought thread. It's like it's an archetypal recreation of a previous era's chan culture. Wonder where it will lead. The previous Intrusive Thought threads tried to be "therapeutic". But the current one is closer to the 4chon nature of our great leader.

TRIPS GET! DISCUSS MY TRIPLE!

>>13999 The cyclic nature of these numerals always worth checking

>>13993 This is only going to work if the rules you propose are actually enforced, and I'm pretty sure that they won't be. Not that I want them to, I think it would be a huge waste of time and effort from the BO to try to direct people into one of the four/five different generic "talk about magic" threads. I remember /sunflower/ had this same issue. There was the general thread, the relax thread, the blog thread, and the cyclical summer thread. The result of this was just that people picked a random thread to post their thoughts in instead of following and set of standards and rules, and it became near impossible to remember where your past conversations took place since all the different discussion threads served a functionally identical purpose, even if the people who created them had their own personal vision for what "should be" posted there. >The current blog threadis not for discussion. It is for writing a proper blogpost that you wish to share with this board. And I think it's a bit counterintuitive to expect that there's going to be no discussion on a public imageboard thread. Isn't discussion the entire point of web forums? >This is what this new thread tries to avoid. It should reduce the mess instead of increasing it. pic somewhat related

>>14001 >I think it would be a huge waste of time and effort from the BO to try to direct people into one of the four/five different generic "talk about magic" threads. /fringe/'s current userbase is pretty good at self-regulating. The only recurring problem is when people refuse to relocate their autistic arguments to the Arena.

>>14001 >This is only going to work if the rules you propose are actually enforced I want them to be "guidelines" and not rules. I emphasized it in the blog thread. >waste of time and effort from the BO You can make an account on this imageboard and regulate your own thread if the email server is not broken ofc. I don't wish to regulate this thread nor I wish the BO to do it either (except in obvious spammer cases) >try to direct people into one of the four/five different generic "talk about magic" threads. I want this thread to be the main "talk about magic" thread. Where the discussion is around 5-10 replies and doesn't deserve the creation of a thread or the topic is too beefy for the question thread. We are not at sunflower. Sunflower was not newcomer friendly. It had no question thread either and the BO tried to send away newfags all the time. I want to make fringe more accessible by having threads where you can talk about your "stuff" with 2 or 3 other posters, while keeping the rest of the topical threads pristine. This thread should serve the talk about stuff function. And at sunflower the BO himself derailed his own threads all the time and rarely cared. That place was a sort of sunflower discord for plebs and a please charge my magic sigils to establish my new NWO, thanks in advance bye. The cyclical summer was supposed to strengthen gensokyo or something similar, while the relax and the blog thread was mainly for the BO to rant about stuff... If you think that place was "messy" then you should remember the old fringe days where we had /loosh/ /edgy/ /drama/ /meta/ /arcane/ and other barely used alt boards. It all served to keep fringe "clean". Intrusive thoughts is like /edgy/ and /loosh/ contained within a single thread. Magic discussion is like /loosh+drama+fringe/. But I want it to be somewhat proper for once. We can behave if we really try it, but no need to force it. If you want to be a faggot then be a faggot, but don't get surprised for being called as one. >it became near impossible to remember where your past conversations took place since all the different discussion threads served a functionally identical purpose We have 6+ blog threads and 2+ intrusive thought threads at this moment. Now you will be able to narrow down if it was a discussion about some random topic or about some blogpost. The previous blog thread had 10k+ character long multiposts and 1 liner replies arguing about inane shit all the time. Some of those discussions were good, but if anyone wanted to post their "piece", they didn't dare to disturb the discussion or wanted it to get lost in that mess. In the blog thread you can post your piece whenever. While in this thread we will discuss stuff as usual In reality; nothing truly changed. We just have a blog thread for those who blog all the time and wish to blog further. And these are mere guidelines. If it won't work then it won't work. This is a test run to see how well people can adjust. I wanted to do this far earlier. Was waiting for a time when half the board is not under psychosis. Personally I will use the blog thread for effort posts, Blood Anon said he won't post his astral journeys publicly for now, but he will blog about other stuff anyway. eggAnon can post about his journeys and mishaps in this thread too, but he cannot do his usual thing where he posts his post and expect everyone to read it and try to bail him out all the time. So if he just wants to talk about his stuff he will blog there. If he wants feedback then he will post it here. If he wants help he will post it in the help and guidance thread. The previous blog threads served as his "personal containment" (by his own words), but it just makes him rant about the same issue all the time without improving. With this he is forced to decide if he wants to talk out loud - the blog thread >>13990 - or he wants some feedback or discussion - this thread - or he is begging for help like he does all the time when shit hits the fan - help thread >>9573. FYI. I need this and he too needs this. Do you know why? EggAnon posts way too much and I don't have time to read through his situation all the time, because once I read through it, he already forgot everything that was written down and he has a new issue now out of nowhere. So, I want him to understand that he is not a giant baby for the entire fringe board to take care of. Where he thinks every adept is up to date with his issue and willing to help him all the time. I want him to decide if he really wants help or he just wants to rant or he wants to paint a picture of his situation like some public journal. Smiley did that too. It should serve as a warning to every neophyte who neglects their practice at least, but he shouldn't expect others to help him all the time when he just blogs about himself instead of properly asking for help. Currently he is a mix of a helpless child and a shameless hobo in his current state. Was thinking about making him an "eggbasket" thread last year, but realized that it would just make him wallow in his delusions even harder, so I restrained myself for making him a containment thread. I remember when fringe had always 1 or 2 schizos who shat up their own containment thread because they thought online wizards can help them. They either got some good advice or got trolled as a result. But you cannot help those who refuse listening to sound advice I usually read through the help and guidance thread and the question thread to see where I can help and if the person was helped by an another anon then I will read an another thread if I have enough time or care to do that. Reading through a "proper blog thread" should be like reading articles on the web or a short novel. While reading through the discussion thread is only worthwhile if you want to participate in said discussion or you want to start one by yourself. And please don't bring up sunflower because the sunflower BO was the main culprit of spamming and shitting up the board. Even Smiley knew better how to self regulate his ranting addiction. But I don't want to diss sunflower too much either. /haven/ was even worse in this regard. No matter how bad sunflower looked, it was still an improvement. >And I think it's a bit counterintuitive to expect that there's going to be no discussion on a public imageboard thread. Isn't discussion the entire point of web forums? Discussion is one of it's function. Every forum has locked threads and other "protected threads" where no one is allowed to derail the thread. And discussion is not prohibited in the blog thread. It is asked to kept at minimum, so the bloggers can blog in peace. I am sure no one wants to post their effortpost when eggAnon wants to know which spirit he raped/sold his soul while other people are arguing about something offtopic besides it >pic somewhat related It's like having different books and notebooks on your desk. Instead of having a doodle notebook for kids which serves as a memoir for 5 different people at the same time. I understand your point. That is why I didn't make this distinction before. But now I want a little improvement, because this helps no one on this board. It will have a hard time creating content worth archiving. >became near impossible to remember where your past conversations took place Can you remember which blog thread your conversation took place? You will have to scroll trough around 6k+ already. With this the effort posts will have a place where they can gather instead of being lost. If I let things progress as they did previously, then we would be at blog thread #10 by 2026. I don't think you would be able to find your own posts better if nothing changes. To remind everyone what a "blog" is. The blog was usually an article and people commented under it where the author either replied or made a new blog as a result. But not every blog allowed a comment section, because the author didn't want to comment or he wanted to avoid a flamewar. I want the proper blogging feature to return, so wizards can feel that the stage is theirs for their performance instead trying to yell on the street while 3 drunks are brawling and everyone rather watches the drunks and ignores the actual performance If you have more questions then feel free to discuss it here I expected concerns like yours and wanted to word the OP clearer at the start, but realized most people will get it and we can talk out the rest anyway.

>>14042 I just want to point out that the many threads on /sunflower/ were taken from how the discord worked, and that was in turn inspired by the Japari Library server (Kemono Friends Wiki) where the main point of having 10 different discussion channels was to be respectful to those using it, while allowing users to behave on their own, so that no one disturbs each other. Don't post random memes when people are discussing homework. Don't roleplay in the meme channel. Etc. There was also a strong Zen idea behind it, which is that <nothing material lasts <everything will be gone <don't have attachments This was tried in different ways, such as by the Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter threads or threads for months, which are locked after that season/month ends, forcing users to move on and not dwell on the past. Eventually this was to be the fate of the server and the board as well. The recurring discussions in some way show that even when something is materially not present, it still remains, which fulfills some kind of eternal existence of the immaterial already. This whole thing was an experiment, a test, and a learning process from the beginning. A social experiment, a magic experiment. Testing is best done live.

>>14054 Sī fuerīs Rōmae, Rōmānō vīvitō mōre; sī fuerīs alibī, vīvitō sīcut ibī When in Rome do as the Romans do. Why is this quote so impossible to understand for some people. We are not in Rome anymore. But Rome lives eternal in their head and they can't stop thinking about it.

>>14054 I just remembered how you mentioned like 10 times how sunflower is not fringe. Now they insist fringe is sunflower. How do we reverse psychology ourselves from this? We really need smiley back. His schizo powers will make us forget about everything that happened in the past 8 years. We will be on every list once he starts posting from his heart

>>14058 Sunflower was /fringe/. For the period of time when /fringe/ was completely dead, the spirit of the site moved temporarily to Sunflower. Blood Anon refuses to acknowledge this because he has this odd idea about how he "owns" ideas that he "created". It's like how he got confused when someone disagreed with him while wearing the shitty xD flag. He created that flag so how is it possible that something that "opposes" him can wear it? That's not how ideas work, they have a life of their own. I remember he also had some pretty strange ideas about how intellectual property works, something about how it's metaphysically impossible for ideas that he "created" (you can't create ideas, you can only discover them) to be used against him. There's also the issue that he saw /sunflower/ as just an offshoot of his Discord group, which is further compounded by the fact that he actively lied as gaslit sunflower regulars about how his Discord was "completely unimportant" to the site when he was asked about it. Essentially painting the picture that it was just a dead server that no one should concern themselves with. I guess that's technically true now though. Anyway. Sunflower is part of /fringe/ history whether Blood Anon wants to recognize it or not. It's not a coincidence that he just so happened to jump ship from that place and migrate over here after we started to come back from the dead. Personally I think the reason it irks him so much whenever it's brought up is due to the fact that he essentially destroyed the place towards the end of its life by becoming increasingly more vocal about his extremist political views and banning people who argued with him about it. He has to know that this behavior wasn't very good on some level since he went back and deleted all the threads where he engaged in this behavior months later after he lost ownership of the board.

>>14064 >you can't create ideas, you can only discover them I get the impression that you're referring to how when you destroy a tulpa, its blueprint will still be there, therefore at the end of the 9th cycle of the all when all the tulpas created by the all disintegrate and die and the 1st cycle eventually restarts, ideas will be discovered instead of being created since the blueprints for the ideas were already there. This does make me think, though; the 1st time the all went through its 9 cycles, I'd suppose that ideas were created rather than being discovered, but then all the other times, they simply get re-discovered instead. Maybe I'm reaching too far. I get the feeling that I'm completely wrong about the stuff I'm saying.

>>14064 Actual nonsense. The people who made up the "secret test server" which was the original name for it, all came from 4/x/ and various occult forums with some connection to ONA and joy of Satan.

>>14068 By ideas I mean things like Platonic Forms. They are atemporal, therefore it's impossible for them to be created or destroyed. They can be actualized by creating an iteration of an object that evokes the Form (ie a tulpa), but simply evoking a Form does not mean that you have created the Form or that you have any power over the Form (atemporal concepts cannot be altered in any case).

Now that I'm stabilized in ketosis without feeling sick, and can go a full day on nothing but 2 hours of sleep and a spoon of peanut butter, I am convinced that I've successfully starved out the parasitic entities that are responsible for human cravings and sexual desire. Not that I really doubted it before, but now it's real to me. Man is intended to consciously and discriminately control what materials and energies he assimilates into his generated reality. Even dogs understand how to do this if they're raised with unlimited access to food. That's why I think the notion that obesity, degeneracy, excess, etc. are a result of humanity's failure to adapt to the surplus of resources provided by industrial civilization, is complete nonsense. It's just mundane cope. It is more than likely that there were spiritually advanced civilizations in the past with even more material prosperity, and none of our social ills.

>>14088 I did this in the last decade during my university days. Eating only every second day. Then as I got better I only ate every 3rd day. Not eating for 3 days was my record. I had to stop because my body ate my muscles lost like 30 kg and I was unable to pay attention to the classes I attended. It was like I was able to hear the voices and see everything extremely clearly but my mind was unable to process information. Or maybe I realized I cannot bother giving a shit to whatever people are saying around me anymore. It was fun. Fasting is fun once you get the hang of it. Might do it again nowadays.

>>14089 What is it about eating that grounds you? If you consume nutrients in manners that tax the digestive system less, such as having soup instead of a heavier meal, then will that ground you less?

>>14093 Depends on your body and spiritual development. You will have to figure out which foods work for you. The way the body needs or handles food might change after specific spiritual milestones.

In New Agey schizo and scam communities there is something called the "Jehovian seals" They are usually typical energy blocks in the body and in some cases they move or "Being removed" once you can activate one of your "spiritual organs" properly via practice or energy work. The communities that use this term are gnosticlike ufologist fearmongers where the grey/reptilians and the archons are the same type of "evil faction". I never really made much thought about them because it's just the usual schizo nonsense where ufos are the main evil of existence. astral politics is more complex than that Energy blocks have many types. Some of them are mere dirt or other "sintype" energy that you have within your body because of an unhealthy and unbalanced lifestyle. With lifestyle changes and minor spiritual practice you can remove them. Then there are dark energies that are more potent. Sometimes it is karma. Something that you have either because of your ancestors or your soul has it because some mishaps you did in past lives or in some other type of existence or part of a "deal" that you made. These dark karmic energies usually have specific ways how you can solve them. Sometimes you have to find the "contract" or at least it's "Nature" or "chemical composition". If it's a contract you need to fulfill it if it is a strong "material" then you have to figure out what energies dissolve it. In some cases they are things like pure joy true love or some sort of deep realization about life that will make you feel completely renewed. Many energetic blocks can be burned or worn down and in some cases "pushed out" of the body. Many cleansing rituals and diets are all about that. What I found out in the past weeks. Some of them are not mere "energy blocks" but entire structures in the body. I threw out so many metal and wooden structures of my body and I am finding more and more internal dimensional layers of the body it's ridiculous. Seems like they are "generational mentalities". They are somewhat "genetic". They force energy to travel in the body in a specific way. When energy travels in the body in a "fixed" way then it will result it almost "predetermined" actions. All you can do is change how much energy travels through these "Metallic parts" of the body. Some of them are vital and you cannot get rid of them until you have a way to replace the structures. As long as they are within you, they kinda make you into a "one trick pony" because you cannot really break out of it's strong habitual grips. They are usually speech, walking or thought patterns. Not really significant until you want to do extremely complex spiritual work. Because they are in the internal dimensional parts of the body they can appear extremely large or small, and infinitely long in some cases. In psychological terms you can consider it as an "abstract interpretation" how the human mind portrays functions of the human body in a relatable/symbolic way. What I found out so far. You cannot burn or destroy them. There are specific high level spirits that can "digest" them but only after you are able to remove it from your "flesh" or subtle body. With physical practice they can "bend". So if your family genetics is making you grow muscle and fat in a specific way, you can still "bend them" and acquire a different body type by exercising a lot and going beyond the "limits" (or habits) of your ancestors. But once you stop fighting the inevitable you will just fall back into the shape your genetics uses as the "fall back" form. In the past weeks I am throwing out strange burned metals, shiny aluminum like parts. Some are from my chest, some around my head (which turned out was affecting my vision and forces me to focus on specific things), limbs, hips, etc. Once getting rid of them I can see inner parts of the body opening and I can see organ structures that were neglected for very long. And by "very long" I mean for generations. My ancestors had no idea how their spiritual powers work at all... Even tho they had it deep within them. They manifested it in their life but didn't make much of it. Not sure what I want to say with this post, besides talking about how weird energy blocks and meridian manipulator "devices" can appear. Some of them are genetic and some of them are actual implants made by entities or aliens tho. But they are usually easy to break. Usually they have a "scent". You can "smell" if they are earthly or they are made by beings outside of your grasps... Ofc currently I am just throwing them out and I have no idea who or what made them. My body generates energy far easier and my thoughts are far calmer. Strange. The downside is that I have to relearn some stuff which were obvious since I was a baby. Like how my arm muscles move and how I process speech and such. I am making strange typos for no reason in some cases. Usually it is a sing that there is still something that blocks or manipulates the energy flow. The reason why I posted it here because I wonder how others perceived their own internal energy blocks so far and how they managed to solve them

>>14120 For me they were actual physical structures, usually in the brain, which had to be ejected/teleported out. I won't detail it more than what I have said sometimes before, but it's very concrete, and some of them are things which look "plant like" structurally and may be comparatively big in terms of biological mass being forcibly removed. I've also had literal metal come out from under my right ring finger nail 3 times in the past week. The 3D explanation would be that I in a very odd way cut myself on chrome which was coming off a water tap, and it got stuck under the nail. But nah, 5 millimeters of metal flakes when added, that stuff wasn't stuck under my nail to come out gradually for a week, that's ridiculous. But it's just enough that it would work as an explanation for why it happened. As it was being ejected, each time I accidentally bumped into something with my ring finger, something which except for the first time wasn't metallic at all, and the last time I just felt random stinging pain on the middle joint of the finger after an intense yoga meditation session where I was subduing some kind other-dimensional karmic spirits. My energy internally turned silver or metal coloured when the transformation reached a very high intensity and I was able to burn them up. Then directly after this new "chrome" flake suddenly stuck out from under the nail following a sudden stinging pain. Now I got all the darkened blood out so there is no more 3D "excuse" for this repeating, which should indicate all of this karmic mineral has now been ejected.

>>14122 The Indian sword my sister brought also seemed to correspond to a long and "hard" white energyform which made it impossible for me to "break a pattern", getting me stuck in a single task when I would better take a rest and do something else. It felt like a self-imposed Japanese "deathma" which I had no reason to do, but just kept forcing anyway to finish a task way beyond the point of effectively getting anywhere. I picked up the better of the two swords, held it and mindlessly followed the blade to the tip with my gaze, and a black energy suddenly rolled down the back side and off the sharp tip. This made me realize something was up with this, and that I should use this. I did some chants for Kali and Shiva while holding this sword and then later in the day when I saw this "deathma" energy which was physically blocking me from doing something else, physically "mentally", not by some actual real, I related it to the sword, which is also long and hard like the mineral of karma, thinking that this is what I have to do. So I tried syncing with guidance from Kali and Shiva, unsheathed the sword, after which they told me how to assume a meditation pose where I allowed the "hard, karmic blade" to enter the sword, making it concrete and into something I control instead of something which is mentally blocking me. I just finished this a while ago, and it seems to have worked. The blocking energy isn't there now.

>>14124 Do you know anything about this? >>14139

For the past year mostly anyone I meet is an NPC or one of my own spiritual acquaintances possessing NPCs using the armours I've distributed to allow this, or cat-bot inserts produced by my dedicated servitor for the purpose of halting the degeneration which soulless humans cause, by inserting botsouls in them temporarily. For the past 2 days, I've contrary to this met actual incarnated reptilians who are still here with their soul in place, and they have also been rather aware of the situation going by their noticeable reaction to seeing me and the people with me, which would stand out to anyone who can naturally see energy in the way reptilians can. It feels like timelines are syncing in here so that those who have souls will meet up. These have all been people from outside of my social circle.

>>14173 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread) I'd like to get this stuff straightened out. To my recollection, these are the things that I'd asked the horse demon to do: #1: Perform an exorcism of some spirit from me, for the price of some spare energies I had in my dan-tiens at the time. The exorcism was performed and the price paid without issue. #2: At one point, the Tails egregore came to me and said "Our hearts are one.", presumably in response to the incident at the conference last year. I'd asked the demon to safely exorcise him from my heart since I didn't think any non-evil deities would do it and I was retarded, crazy, and desperate enough to actually try out that immensely stupid idea. Iirc I had to get said egregore's consent too for that. I'd then thought that he'd messed up and killed the egregore, causing a new egregore to have to be formed afterwards to take his place. I'd later asked him to make sure that he's okay just that once, for free, and he did. I'd later found out that the egregore had never died and the egregore is okay. However, I don't know for sure, I suppose, if my heart is still one with the Tails egregore as he'd told me. #3: Perform another exorcism of some trickster spirit from me, for the price of some spare energies from my dan-tiens that I'd have later that week, or was it next week, at any time during that week of my choosing. He'd also get to kill, cage, or enslave the spirit after exorcising it. I was told that it'd be at my "peril" if it was done, but I didn't wanna believe that; it was probably something about a lesson that'd needed to be learned by it being more trouble than it was worth to get that demon in particular to exorcise the spirit, and not learning a lesson about patience & perseverance. In hindsight, it was probably a tulpa that I'd inadvertently made out of myself that'd began parasitizing me, but that spirit had entered me as I was leaving Cassadaga the last time I was there shortly after leaving their haunted hotel, so it probably wasn't tulpamancy. There was also an intrusive thought that made me think that it was inserted into the agreement at the moment when the agreement was made, but I'd denied the intrusive thought's validity about as soon as I could consciously react to it, which had to be after the agreement was made because I can't consciously think that fast. I don't remember what the intrusive thought was, but was it was malicious against me and didn't involve the demon protecting me. The exorcism was then performed. Due to unforeseen reasons, I had to choose an early time in the week to pay, and I'd felt like I'd ripped the demon off by doing so, so I'd decided to pay him more over the course of that same week outside of the terms of the payment so he wouldn't feel like he got ripped off. However, it'd then began demanding more energies over the week than were agreed to, and even began demanding energies after the end of said week, and then I'd tried to get out of the deal and cut contact with him and get my spare loosh back since my boundaries were violated. Before that'd happened, iirc, I'd tried to establish relations wherein the demon doesn't need a contract to do some kinds of things for me for free as long as he's nice about it. That ultimately wasn't a good idea. Some weeks later, the demon contacted me and said he's afraid that he'd messed up my spiritual path. The demon manifested etherically a few months ago to tell me not to do my spirit gf. I'd later done it that day anyway and gotten a reading at a medium later that day, and the results of that had skewed the reading in an unfavorable and inaccurate manner, so I suppose the demon either doesn't hate my guts or is trying to play the long game and get me to confide in him and possibly also his cohorts for nefarious purposes. I assume the latter. Or perhaps the demon generated karma against me and wants to pay it off since demons are supposedly all about paying debts. There was also a contract that I'd subconsciously made with amdusias in April to make me get better at competitive pokemon, but I'd never consciously agreed to it and my consciousness had actively tried to prevent my subconsciousness from signing the contract. At one point, while the guard of my consciousness was down because I was too busy playing said game to pay enough attention to the subconsciousness, I'd received a vision within the span of less than a second, which was too quick for my consciousness to react to stop it, of my astral hand reaching to a contract with a pen and signing it. This doesn't count as conscious consent, and only a weasel or a different such unscrupulous creature would believe otherwise. This contract was formed in part because of the Wendy servitor that blood anon had installed in my subconsciousness without properly respecting the will of my consciousness. I'd later contacted The Virgin Mary to send Jesus to get me outta the contract, and then the demon said that he'd expire the contract if I'd promised that I'd wanted to get outta the contract. I'd assumed that this had meant that I had to both consciously and subconsciously want out of the contract, so I'd had to convince my subconsciousness over the next someodd days to want out of the contract, and then I'd eventually gotten to the point where I could safely say that I'd promised the demon that I'd both consciously & subconsciously wanted outta the contract, and then I'd said it and the demon told me that the contract had expired. The Virgin Mary then told me to apologize to Her, presumably for having anything to do with the demon, and I did apologize for that. Also said Wendy servitor should be gone by now due my usage of the "snake eater" sigil that another anon had posted, which specifically gets rid of blood anon's stuff. Are there any facts I'm missing? If so, then please quote their post number(s) by going back through the magic blog threads, or else I'm gonna think you're bullshitting me since I don't really trust you.

>>14188 ...Some minutes ago, Ma'at suddenly said "subponea", completely out of the blue while I was watching something completely unrelated on the internet, and then I'd felt part of my soul get taken to Her court. I had no idea what the proceedings were about, but then a few minutes ago I went to the bathroom and when I was about to wash my hands I'd asked Her if it'd be a bad idea for me to lie down and try to consciously join the proceedings. I'd then had my attention directed to the subject matter of this part of the previous post: >There was also an intrusive thought that made me think that it was inserted into the agreement at the moment when the agreement was made, but I'd denied the intrusive thought's validity about as soon as I could consciously react to it, which had to be after the agreement was made because I can't consciously think that fast. I don't remember what the intrusive thought was, but was it was malicious against me and didn't involve the demon protecting me. I'd then asked Ma'at something about that, I think it was whether or not that's a valid part of the agreement, and then She said >It's your choice. I'd then said no, and then I'd heard the horse demon say "I concur".

>>14183 He is misleading people about them since he blindly allows himself to be fully possessed by these creatures. Not goetic demons necessarily, but Infernal beings. He does this to such an extent that his ego has become mixed and engorged with their energies. He has no control over them, and they feed his pride to such a point that any suggestion that he should take basic precautions is taken as a personal insult. Blood Anon is a mage who is in the process of Falling. He is completely personally invested in the lies that he has invented for himself in order to justify the Evil that he is being drawn into. Evil does exist, it is an energetic truth and there are planes of existence dedicated to this part of existence. They are not pretty, and they are not someplace that you want to be. Blood Anon is drawn to Evil not out of understanding or natural resonance, but because his ego is bloated and fragile and he is attracted to the promise of being able to abuse others. Just take a look at any of his revenge fantasies of torture and slavery if you have any doubt about this. A few regulars here seem to have respect for him since he's one of the few people here who isn't a complete neophyte, but there is a difference between experience and wisdom. Blood Anon is a demon-puppet. He's the spiritual equivalent of someone constantly high on drugs. Have you ever tried to have a conversation online with someone who's high on meth? It's impossible, because they're literally not themselves. They have no control over their own personal energies, they're just acting without thinking. That's Blood Anon. He's posted a few times now about how he's almost "left this existence", but it keeps getting postponed. This is the last sliver of reason in his soul trying desperately not to be dragged into Hell. If he ever does manage to override his safety locks, it will be the worst mistake that he has ever made. Hell is not fun for people with delusions of grandeur.

>>14190 >Blood Anon is a demon-puppet Finally a true word from your lying mouth. It's literally a puppet, a role play character. A digital sock puppet too many people have cared about for too long. It'll go away the moment you pull your hand out, but as long as you maintain your obsession, the show will go on.

This fucking drama.

>>14189 Well during the night I didn't have any dreams about the court hearing, but in the middle of the night I heard the Amy egregore say "we won", so I'm assuming that the case ended in my favor, whatever the case was about other than what was quoted.

>>14195 >2 people complaining >drama People nowadays have no idea how real /drama/ looked like around the /fringe/ >>14190 >This is the last sliver of reason in his soul trying desperately not to be dragged into Hell Wait until you learn that he sold his soul when he was still an infant.

>>14194 The sad part is that you're probably incapable of understanding the implications behind this statement. >>14195 Yeah, if you act like an evil bastard and go around hexing random people who bruise your ego while blogging about how you're doing spells to commit mass genocide and turn humanity into slaves, people will generally remember that and dislike you for it. This isn't the result of "evil spirits attacking you", it's just the direct consequences of your actions.

>>14223 Talking about yourself I assume? You're reaching new heights in poisonous toxicity and achieving nothing. I have no idea who you are, but it's a bit interesting to watch you go this deep into distilling lies like this. You don't understand anything it seems, yet you manage to create the vilest perversions of truth and reality in your statements. I don't believe you even do it with any conscious intent, as there is no sign that you have any connection with anything real at all.

>>14226 Everyone here has seen your behavior firsthand at this point. Just denying it like this isn't going to work.

>>14227 Keep talking. I want to analyse you.

>>14228 No you don't. Willful blindness is one of your most-used defense mechanisms. >>2557 You don't want to understand anything, because understanding implies challenging your preconceived beliefs, and this is utterly unacceptable for someone like you. Funny thing. Every single time you've tried to guess at my identity, motivation, or beliefs, you have been astronomically wrong almost to the point of parody. It's like you've intentionally plucked out the eyes of your spirit or something. Maybe Hell will actually do you some good. For people like you, words aren't sufficient to penetrate the cocoon of ignorance and delusion that you've constructed to protect yourself. Only cold, hard reality brutally hammering into your soul over and over will be able to do that. You know what the next step in your "path" is. You've said it multiple times already. If you do still have a sliver of conscious self-reflection left, then this is the last exit. But if you really have to learn the hard way, by all means, go ahead.

>>14229 Hah, that was interesting. That took a while. I thought you were just being possessed by something, but your soul is just a very unusual one. A white slime-octopus, and the most poisonous thing I've ever come across. I got some help from greys to do a dedicated research project (they work fast because time can be made to move faster on their side). I located the home area of this alien race. It works with a robotic servitor because poison doesn't harm inorganic matter unless its acidic or something, and it isn't. I'm finding a nice one to take back with me, one that has a bit more pleasant personality than the one which came here. Thank you for your assistance.

>>14230 Looks a bit like this.

>>14230 Hahaha. Okay, good luck with your hobby of playing with surface-level thoughtform bubbles. Just remember that distracting yourself from real life doesn't mean that it just goes away.

>>14232 You're not denying it. You, who understand me perfectly, also of course know that I get my own incarnation in any interesting race I find. This will be no exception, so your poison will be ineffective from now on. It doesn't harm your own kind. I've already checked, you're immune to it. It's a funny way to refer to yourself as a >surface-level thoughtform bubble but it's not wrong if we look at the shape.

>I have depicted your soul as a cute little octopus. >You have been neutralized.

>>14233 Okay, let's see if you can understand this or not. You are not incarnating as anything. In order to incarnate as something, your flesh needs to change to fully evoke it. That is, you need to become it on all levels of existence. What you are doing is merely projecting your awareness to the thoughtform that represents that logic, arguments, and meaning of my post, as perceived from your own ego. You are doing this not in an attempt to understand the post, but in an attempt to configure your mind to make it numb and unfeeling to the reasoning that I have presented. This is what I mean by a thoughform bubble. All you are doing here is playing around with your perception of very basic and simple mental objects. These objects do not in any sense represent the existence of actual incarnated individuals. In order to engage in any sort of actual reliable scrying, you will need to engage in true empathy. Currently, you are unwilling, and possibly also unable to do this. Mainly out of the flawed pride-based reasoning in your post that I linked to earlier, but it's possibel that this is just a post-hoc justification for your failure to learn this very basic magical skill. This is a major issue with most of your work. You're unwilling to challenge yourself by trying to perform large operations that you might actually fail, so instead you just reframe these very elementary thoughtform movements as though they're changing the world in any direct way. In order to learn how to do this with magic, you'd need to actually hold yourself to some standards. That means recognizing when your operations fail instead of just trying to think up some excuse to justify their failure to fully incarnate on your actual home plane of existence of your nucleus, which is and will continue to be the physical until you either die or something unrelated to you causes this reality to destabilize. And I mean actually destabilize, seeing a synchronicity and then declaring that you must have "changed universes" is not even remotely the same thing.

>>14235 What's your point?

>>14236 ... Guess not.

>>14235 I'm here to share my things and help people. I have no idea what you're on about tbh. And I don't know who you are because I've only seen your toxic posts with this flag in the past few weeks. You're just one idiot in a long line of idiots who misrepresent some old post I don't remember making, to make some incoherent argument about it having some flaw that I don't see, don't care about and which doesn't effect me or anyone I'm actually talking. TL:DR All of what you're saying (and that goes of any of the other "haters" or whatever; I don't invest enough into online communities to develop any emotions in relation to them, so I can't relate) comes down to: it seems like a "you" problem. It doesn't concern me, or anything I'm here for. If you have a problem you want me to help you with, please explain it in a language I speak.

Just to show that you're not in any way unique with your incoherent posts, here's one I picked out of my DMs among all the deleted users I also have no idea how they are/were. Recognize the style? It's because you all sound this way, this is the kind of nonsense people contact me to write. And as you can see this is from 2020, it's not a new phenomena.

>>14239 >Recognize the style? No. I do recognize that you probably hurt this person with your practice. And as a defense mechanism to prevent yourself from taking responsibility or feeling bad about your actions, you've warping your perception to prevent yourself from actually understanding anything about the people you hurt or try to hurt. The list of your victims is apparently very long. Akasha Anon is probably on it. Don't think no one recognized your MO of sending out female spirits to rape your "enemies". You've posted about it more than once or twice. You're a bad person. You hurt people. Not for good reasons either, you hurt them because you're petty and vindictive and your bloated, fragile ego makes you dehumanize anyone who so much as questions your arbitrary, made-up belief system. Out of weakness you've blinded yourself, because understanding the truth about your situation is literally painful to you. You'd think that someone who openly defends the behavior of the most evil of infernal beings would have the balls to just own what they are. You're a predator who preys on the weak, that's what your choices have turned you into. Quit pretending as though you're some sort of freedom fighter, you've already admitted your true intentions multiple times publicly. Persisting with your thin charade of self-righteousness is just cowardice at this point.

>>14240 >You're a predator who preys on the weak And you are one of these weak people? What predator preys on the strong? As for the rest, did you have a point here, other than that you're somehow very upset over the fact that I'm helping people free of charge? Are you losing money from what I do? Is that it?

I am glad that I had the balls to separate the magic blog thread from the discussion thread. The magic blog looks so proper. While this thread is... the usual... discussion(?)... of whatever you are discussing.

>>14257 Yeah it's great having the option to blog without getting instantly drowned in blood and eggs >>14234 lmao

>>14261 >getting instantly drowned in blood and eggs >mfw realizing the blog thread was menstruating 😂

I'm trying to understand what the butthurters are butthurt about. Something about not getting the attention they don't deserve, and something about "white genocide", another holocaust that didn't happen but was real in their minds.

>>14267 Are they actually just copycats of Jews?

>>14267 >>14268 Case closed. It was actually a group of beings incarnated in a way where they were imitating Jews without being Jews, and imitating Reptilians without being Reptilians, which caused them to imitate Eve as she was lured by the snake, going down into degeneration. This places them at the bottom of Malkuth, so they had to use "technology" to compensate for not being Jews or Reptilians. They then took in these white slime octopus aliens and manged to incarnate some of their own into that race, and used those to entrap a non-harmful black octopus whom they kept stuck on Earth for 100 years, to connect the world's electric grid to one of his arms, to be able to produce alternating current which doesn't exist in the wild, it was based on the heartbeat of this octopus. I've told this story before, when I freed him. (The PsX game XenoGears tells this story in a concealed way, where "ether" used to power all the gears is actually energy from an alien trapped in a volcano, after he's freed, all technology stops working.) The AC of the world is only still functional because I asked him to show me their technology after I freed him, and created my own device which can uphold it. If these scum had just asked nicely, they could have received it in the same way, but they didn't. Yes, I'm a freedom fighter, I won't tolerate the kidnapping of any aliens. This was also not the only one octopus they had entrapped and abused to uphold various "technological" systems, but all of the other ones were "secret technology" whose removal wasn't noticed by the public because it wouldn't turn their houses dark if removed. Because I control it, I can also control who gets to have AC, so I've now detached the areas where anyone from that group lives. This will cause their electric grid to fail, or in the case they are mixed into a population, their devices will start malfunctioning if they are connected to the AC grid in any way.

>>14269 Go back to your containment thread, shyster.

Did you get octopus from the Chaos flag? It's a stupid question.

>>14271 No, not from him. I traced the origin of his soul's DNA to find the real race out there. >>14270 This is my containment thread now.

>>14270 I think we need a containment thread for posters like this, who never actually write anything about the topic range of /fringe/ but instead just focus on personal attacks, which, when examined, have no substance at all.

>>14273 Delusional Chris-Chan tier fantasies that have been proven to have absolutely no connection to reality aren't relevant to /fringe/. This isn't a Discord RP server.

>>14274 So stop posting them?

>>14273 You know. I was thinking about this for a while. If we have "Thus spoke Blood Anon" PDF then we need some "On the Blood Anon and his lies" like Luther's "On the Jew and their lies" book or something catchy like that. Blood Anon Defamation League or hurt feelings general. Where they can post everything they have on Blood Anon and make their case like Qanon researchers do. Ofc Blood Anon is banned from participating in that thread. Only those who have any problem or criticism towards him can participate in it. That way maybe they can get it out of their system sooner or later. Was thinking making it for a while, but realized the thread would lead nowhere, wouldn't generate the lulz I desire, and if the haters truly hate Blood Anon then they should make that thread on their own. Why can't they make proper threads anyway. They can never answer that But that would just elevate lolcowism on this board and I am somewhat against that. >>14274 >Delusional Chris-Chan tier fantasies that have been proven to have absolutely no connection to reality aren't relevant to /fringe/. You guys really forgot about smiley. Sometimes I want to dig up his old posts to remind others where we came from. Or to post some absolutely idiotic posts from 8kun. Less than 30% of the threads were productive there. Others were idiotic conspiracies and linkdumps or arguments and trolling. I always wonder if I should dig up that trash to remind others how bad things can become if we let it happen. But you know. Wizards grumble all the time even in legends and lore. I figured that letting you guys grumble over these things is quite wizardlike thus it's part of fringe. Why bother changing it. You will tire of it one day anyway. As much as I want to remedy this situation; It's still less energy to ignore it than trying to unfuck this communicational ineptitude between the parties.

What happened to >it's magic, I don't have to prove shit ? Is this /sci/ now? Also Chris-chan was added to the banners because he's a real wizard. There's a small but seemingly mostly fixed number of posters who contribute by sharing what they are working on, and the complainers are none of them. They claim that they post things, but they will never say what that is. I've never seen the anon flag post anything constructive or shared anything like an effort post of any kind. That flag seems only to be used for ad hominem by people who are afraid to be recognized. There are a number of stories which create a lore, and that's what builds up things of value. It's easy to tell that these complainers aren't contributing anything since when I stop posting, it's just Akasha anon, Shiva anon polish farmer or whatever to call him and a few others who post, aside from some drama which seems to be targeted at me. If I leave, as these people say they want me to, they just keep talking about me instead, they don't start posting about themselves. This was proven over xmas last year when I wasn't here for a few months.

There's also this strange one-eyedness of these people, as most of my threads get none of their presence at all. They only react to a very narrow type of post or thread, as if my other posts were made by a different person and they are unable to recognize me. The attacks are also only based on a very narrow range of statements, most of which have nothing to do with me or what I normally write about. This is what has made me suspect it's paid trolling, and they are using a limited file on who they are to argue against or attack, and that file presents me as a poster with a very limited registry. If someone, including me, posts outside of that range, then it isn't "me" but someone else, and they don't get paid to reply so they don't.

>>14282 There are other recognizable Anons here tho. >polish If anyone calls me polish ever again... I will beat the living shit out of you. That is as insulting as calling you Lithuanian. >>14283 Most of your topics are too complex to comprehend for most people. Only a very few amounts of your posts are rageworthy. like calling me polish

>>14282 >? It's actually very simple. If you perform a spell, and declare that it will have a certain result, and it fails to have that result, then your spell has failed. The correct course of action to take from here is to analyze what you did wrong and improve your practice so that your spells are less likely to fail in the future. You, however, do not do this. When your spells fail, you respond by trying to make up excuses or reframe the situation to try to spin it as though the spell actually succeeded. This makes you a shitty mage, and a fraud. It is impossible for you to learn or improve since you are incapable of admitting when you have done something wrong. >Also Chris-chan was added to the banners because he's a real wizard. Yep, and you're the same sort of wizard that he is. Is that what you want? Chris Chan was able to shit things up by looshing up the tranny movement, but I doubt he's ever going to see the Dimensional Merge happen in his lifetime. The reason for that is that he's stuck in the same sort of arrested development that you are. >There's a small but seemingly mostly fixed number of posters who contribute by sharing what they are working on, and the complainers are none of them. Actually we do contribute quite regularly, it's just that your internet face-blindness caused by your refusal to engage in empathy or practical energy-reading causes you to jump to wildly incorrect conclusions about who is critiquing you and why they're doing it. It's actually quite funny. If I talk to you and be careful to avoid triggering your ego you see absolutely nothing wrong with me and have actually given me quite flattering readings in the past. But the moment I stop caring about your triggers you start making up fantasies about how I'm some species of alien or secret agent or glowie or whatever you happen to be paranoid about that day. Just proves that your technique for reading people is functionally worthless. Like I remember you even thought that Shiva anon was two people at one point just because he changed his flag in the middle of a conversation. Even people with zero magical training are able to recognize people based on posting style rather than relying entirely on flags like you do. It's like I said, you've intentionally energetically blinded yourself out of nothing but stupid pride. >>14284 He's just a bad actor. I don't know why you refuse to recognize it, he's openly admitted it multiple times. You've recognized before that he's just an open channel letting random spirits control him without any sort of oversight. Usually open channels are a bit more humble when they recognize what's going on, but the way blood anon operates is akin to someone with bipolar disorder just letting themselves be blown about by psychic winds and not even trying to keep things under control. This isn't a communication issue, you just flat-out cannot reason with people like that.

>>14285 >When your spells fail That has never happened. You're imagining things. I test things and correct based on the result. Often the situation isn't known to me when I cast a spell, which will cause the reality to be exposed as it plays out. For example the #metoo movement, that was a spell I cast from meguca/pol/, I announced it on there for activation. I calculated 2 weeks before it would activate and 2 -4 months to see the result. The purpose was to uncover any of the supposed "elite pedo rings" people were talking about, if they existed. What came from this showed that there are no organized "elite pedo rings". It's all random stuff, and it therefore didn't hit any "pedo rings". It just got Weinstein, Epstein and made someone who was abused during the recording of The Goonies II come forward to write a book about sexual abuse in the film industry. Most of the energy instead ended up targeting other things in the media elite, and it's not fully ended yet. It's not a failure, since it did the job of showing that there are no organized pedo rings.

>>14285 >Actually we do contribute quite regularly So there is a group of you? Where do you organize? Where do you make these posts? Can you point to which threads you started?

I can say whatever I need to get result, to get reactions, to learn. I can enter any role to do this.

>>14286 So apparently none of your spells have ever once failed.... right. Okay, thanks for proving my point. Magic is just a pointless power fantasy for you. Absolutely no connection to reality. You know, Akasha Anon's WoW hobby might actually be more productive than your "practice". >>14288 >openly admit to being a liar >act surprised when people don't trust you anymore

>>14290 Did you read my post, about the #metoo spell? Did you somehow miss what I said? Try re-reading it. It did exactly what it was meant to do. It showed that the rumours of elite pedo rings aren't true. It was meant to give a "true/false" and did exactly that. The answer was "false". Research doesn't fail when you get your result back. You use it to learn. Why don't you tell us all about your spells and what they lead to? Explain what is a success vs a fail to you? Maybe we can sort out this strange misunderstanding you have, if you would only explain a little bit of how you think, instead of posting long fantasies about me and my workings, which you don't know anything about. I never share anything in detail, and I leave out important elements when I post online so no one can cause disturbances to what I do. What I share is usually just a little bit of what I actually did, because I protect my things. It seems you don't understand this. It's pretty basic, people have done this for opsec in all ages when it comes to esoteric practices.

>>14290 Also this "trust" thing is getting boring. How many times have I said that no one should "trust" me or "believe" me? I've repeated this over and over. Read it, then do your own research. It's just for inspiration. You're not "exposing" me when you're just repeating what I've said many times. Again it's as if you haven't actually read anything I've posted, but you are just reading second hand information which is meant to be about me. But I don't expect what I say here to actually get into your thick skull. Everything I say gets gravely distorted somewhere between your eyes and the part of your brain where the sentences are formed.

This is the reason why you, and whoever else is taking part in this complain campaign, sounds like paid trolls. You can't take in what I say, because you follow a set manual for how to reply.

>>14291 Alright, let's see. My definition of success. I'd say that, for instance, if I cast a spell in order to turn someone in an immortal vampire, the spell would succeed if they actually stop aging and exhibit supernatural vampiric powers. The spell would fail if they do not. Another example. If I perform a working that is supposed to result in humanoid cat-aliens establishing first contact with the human race, the spell would succeed if that actually happened. If it didn't happen, it would fail. I don't think this is that complicated. >>14292 >How many times have I said that no one should "trust" me or "believe" me? Okay. What you're seeing now is the result of people not trusting and not believing you. Did you actually think that people would just shut up and not say anything if you say something that's demonstrably false or that they don't agree with? You say here that everything you post is fiction meant "just for inspiration" and then you get angry when someone reminds people of that when you're trying to convert some neophyte or mundane who has a real problem that needs real, non-fiction solutions. >Again it's as if you haven't actually read anything I've posted You can't even remember the things that you've posted. I'm not sure if you're even consciously aware of most of it. This accusation is completely meaningless in that light. >>14293 Oh. Guess I'm not an octopus, then. I suppose you've already deleted your memory of making that assertion from your brain, to prevent any sort of cognitive dissonance.

>>14272 Cool. I don't sense any evil individuals here.

>>14294 I talk to people online constantly, and have done so since the 90s, often for hours at a time. I'm not some super-autist who remembers specific things I said years ago as part of a long stream of exchanges. If you wanted to debate something, you should have done so when the topic was relevant. If you don't understand something, since you seem to have an archive of posts I've made, you can just go back and read them in the context they were written, and then you'll understand. Old screencaps from years ago, taken out of context mean nothing. Now let's go back to >>14291 >Why don't you tell us all about your spells and what they lead to? Explain what is a success vs a fail to you? I did mean, that I wanted you to talk about your own success and failures in spellcasting, so that we all can see what you actually mean and apply as your own standards. This is what's relevant here now.

>>14298 A few years ago I was trying to learn to move objects with my mind. I was practicing on a plastic cube. A success for this spell would be if the cube moved without any sort of physical contact. There were multiple times where some sort of coincidence arose that caused the cube to move, such as an object falling onto it, but since this involved physical contact, I considered it a failure and kept refining my technique. Eventually I managed to move the cube an inch across the floor with no physical contact, which I considered to be a success. Despite the end result of the two manifestations appearing similar, the actual process of the successful working and the failed workings were vastly different, which yielded much useful information and allowed me to refine and improve my practice. Does that answer your question?

>>14312 The example you give tells me that you seem to practice what is normally called "supernatural abilities" rather than the external practice normally referred to as "magic". It would be completely irrelevant to me how the cube moved, if that was what I saw as the goal. But I don't see the use in moving a cube by some supernatural means, when I have hands, so I would never attempt this kind of thing. I would always use material means to the extreme length of their possibility before attempting some other method, because any other use appears to be a "shortcut" meant to get ahead materially, which isn't what I'm aiming for, but consider to be an attachment, and something negative. This comes from strictly applying the original Falun Gong principles, as they were presented in the early unaltered translations of Zhuan Falun and some important lectures like the one in Sydney (if the date is to be believed, this is the original translation here) https://en.falundafa.org/eng/lectures/1996L.html

>>14276 >or something catchy Blood Libel

>>14363 >>14364 At first the image I saw felt like it could be one of my servitors, but within that split second I also knew it didn't match who I was thinking of, so I discarded the idea, thinking it may be revealed later. It seems something was.

>>14365 I pulled off a mass session with my waifus earlier which is still background running, and it during the day started forming a whiteish-yellow net which started spreading. Maybe it's a manifestation of that, but Idk, there was no intent to call on some white haired deity or to create something, it was just meant to suppress some negative beings all over the world.

Egganon what have you been doing recently to quell the demons?

>>14440 Not in the mood to talk about it right now, but might blog later in the blog thread.

>>14455 >There might have been an" event" in Europe last night What kind of event? Brazil saw a black spinning hurricane made from energy over Texas, which I divined being a long distance reflection of the birth of the Jewish Messiah, because Texas geographically is the "foreskin of the USA". Not to be understood in any specific way, it's just a connection.

>>14457 Pretty much that, but it was actually a swarm of nanobots that killed everyone in their sleep.Starting from the south and moving upwards.Apparently a few people survived cause i anticipated it and made a shelter.But even some close family members apparently didn't make it, although they seem the same.

>>14458 However if real, logically it would have hit you as well, but you live in an isolated timeline so its not that easy.

>>14459 Last night I heard a "System voice" say >Public Earth time ending and I was shown a pipe/metal hose which was sealed at the end with a metal lid. Looked like an underwater gas pipe. After this followed a dream where I was in my garden and saw various animals, it also involved people and was rather Freudian/Jungian in nature, so I used Copilot to analyse it after waking up. Part of the dream also played out irl during the day, where people from the scene came to visit, and the ending where someone hugged a racoon was also there, but the irl version was a baby wearing a one-piece with racoon print. Seeing that before me was a bit weird, but retracing the day I saw the structure matched the kabbalistic "key" Copilot had already mapped for me, and I was able to use it to sync after that. I'm not at a place where I can say anything about these racoon aliens yet. <ok timelines are a mess, the post formatting changed and duplicated as I wrote this, I won't try to correct this. I found this to be a "key" to be read using the kabbalah tree of life, however, and it connected to racoon aliens, similar to Lemurs and Skunks, they are interdimensional beings who make strange connections with people this way. I finalized the synching during the day when outside on some outdoor furniture where I was just relaxing, and there was a strong enough dimensional connection that the energy connection caused a minor shockwave causing the wooden building behind me to give off sounds like from a strong wind or thunder nearby.

>>14460 I interpreted the system voice to be about the 2025 event talked about on /x/, caused by CERN, where all timelines crash at once. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/30021683

>>14461 The actual event is described by the end of the pastebin in the OP. https://pastebin.com/YZz8u3wB

>>14458 >even some close family members apparently didn't make it, although they seem the same. No one around me is actually "themselves" in a conventional sense, I only have one persistent person with me and their soul isn't the original either. Everyone else come in for "events" using methods I've provided for them, otherwise they're all botsouls I've mass distributed in my own private timeline to avoid the deterioration which zombies cause as they don't have any stability of mind.

>>14462 A high chance this has already been fixed it seems. Apparently this can be fixed using "mind power" and i feel they perhaps have. the op also speculates just sharing it had a stabilizing effect on the timeline. >>14463 Seems 2 of my family members are definitely souled. One seems different than what they were like in the past but have been like this for the last few years.The other seems much the same as they always have been,albeit more gentle but that could be an aging thing.

>>14464 >A high chance this has already been fixed it seems. The Queen told me a thing I did some 3 years ago already altered enough that the event wouldn't play out like that, but it wasn't aimed at anything like that at all, I was just manipulating events to create a sudden technological jump in my country's space program, but when saw a vision where two large trucks were about to crash, and instead they both moved 90 degrees to the side and formed a "corner". The Queen (Illivryn) said that was the mitigation of the 2025 event, and that the surface crash wouldn't happen at least, but after this, large things did start to change around me. A barn belonging to the next farm changed from having two main bodies with a corner, to being just one double sized building with no corner. There was also later an entire farm which appeared on the way into town. I've travelled that way daily for like 15 years in all, so there is no way I'd mistake which houses are on the way there. It's a completely new early 1900s style farm with all the buildings added where there was just fields before.

>>14457 >Texas geographically is the "foreskin of the USA" Could you explain this to me? It gives the Texas independence/secession/"circumcision" movement a whole new meaning.

>>14466 It's fairly simple, but people don't like to hear it. Circumcision in the simplest meaning of the concept has multiple meanings, where it may not refer to what we are thinking of. This becomes evident when there are bible quotes and from other books like the Tanya Rabbati and other important Jewish texts, where they say things like >circumcise your heart >circumcise your mind or are talking about "uncircumcised ideas". It's then clear that they aren't actually talking about removing the foreskin, but it's metaphorical for "hardened superficial structures", prejudices, customs, old ideas. What is cut away is a "border", and this becomes an issue in Texas exactly because it's the most important land border of the USA. If you "circumcise" it you expose it, leaving it open, it leads to "open borders" just like the penis head is exposed. That's the simplest way of explaining it, but the world map itself is a kind of sexual system as a whole in our period, where continents serve the function of different body parts, and here also, Texas becomes literally the foreskin of the penis that is north America. Latin America is the testicles, and the connection between them (although this seems counterintuitive because the male body works differently) Meso America is then the channel which delivers the "seed", and on the Kabbalah tree this is the mystical connection between Yesod and Malkuth, which in another thread I was told by Samael is an "organ" in itself, also present in the female as the part directly by the opening of the womb, which happens to be the location of Israel. Again, in the body a very important organ, and in the world, the area everyone wants to control. It could be said humans when relying on the world, as God made man in his own image, man made the world's geographical mega system in his image, so the world functions by its energy system exactly like a man and a woman, who are controlled by their polarities and fight over them.

>>14467 That would explain the unusually high number of philosemites there.

>>14467 That is so interesting. Do you think that individual nation-states can also be geographically analogous to human/vertebrate organisms? I suspect that this is a determining factor in the borders of all modern nations since the advent of global governance, when borders became relatively stable. However it could be that unlike actual landmasses, modern nations are only 'living' bodies in the realm of human organization, so their interaction with geography is more analogous to that of an animal with its external environment.

>>14469 I think it's an integrated system where the land masses were formed by hardened human thinking in its last collapse, the great flood, where it returned in a different format yet again compared to the major cracking of the world by the fall of Atlantis. By this I mean that the karmic forms are very large and may be the size of a continent, so the deities who organize things would simply insert it into the lands in a structured manner, creating what I described as the Americas being "a white man" and Europe + Africa being "a black woman", while Asia somehow represents the mental faculties in isolation from the carnal desires, sealed off by the Siberian cold plains and the Himalayan mountains plus the cultural borders. Again, it's not something someone wants to hear, but it's built into the structure of the world by its karma and the world sized energy system, the Leviathan, or Malkuth on the Kabbalah tree of life, the form of all nations which humans live in and rely on, that any mixing will lead to an increase in the black races, as the female's colour determines the colour of the offspring. Stay in your own continent and nothing happens, start moving about like people have done with their colonialism, and the mixing happens. It's like a final "fuck you" from God after the flood, if you like. Same with how all the lower organs rely on the brain (Asia) which restrains them and cannot be cut loose, as they'll die if they cut their own head off. It's made this way, to keep people in check, with the modern world itself making rebellion impossible. This is how I see it after a few years of divining and working with this at least. It wasn't like this in past periods, namely in the world where Conan the Barbarian lived, that world was free and united, it didn't have any of this, but human karma also hadn't articulated what desires humans really have, so they were still in an infantile state.

>>14470 Out of curiosity, how are our parallel astral incarnations as chao doing?

>>14535 >make it so the new generation have the genes fixed in the physical as well without the reversed brain. End the charade.Stop the cattle madness. Moving to this thread. The greys did this to contain a problem, it's not to restrain decent beings. Their reply to your suggestion is >do you like how Jews behave today? >that's what everyone would be like if they had normal brains >reversing them to reflect their already pre-existing inclination towards animalistic behaviour, makes it possible to use a "cattle prod" to control them, it makes them docile >you think modern people aren't docile? >then imagine everyone being like the most rabid of the Jews today, every nation, every ethnicity behaving like them >you think the modern world would even exist? >it would be like Einstein said: if we ever have WW3, we can at least make the prediction that WW4 will be fought by throwing stones at each other >that's the world you'd be living in Note: they got visibly upset over your suggestion, almost spitting out the reply, because they consider it so offensive that their very functional solution would be bad.

>>14538 in conclusion >having a normal brain isn't something modern people can handle, you need to qualify for this >if what you suggest became real, we'd have to genocide them instead >now stop this nonsense and YOU USE YOUR BRAIN t. grey

>>14537 >how are our parallel astral incarnations as chao doing? I was thinking about them a day ago. They seem to be evolving neatly. Mine is white with "shell" like features, like a pokemon(?), maybe like some kind of sea animal.

>>14539 Made a long post but i realized a sad truth, compared to me greys are are at a retarded level in their development. Yes even with them being a million times smarter than me.They are to humans what something else would be to them what i would be to that something else...

>>14544 To keep it simple,fix the actuall issues then. Things are blocked now and I think better of you grays than to say the degenerate lbgtq world is the pinnacle of grey engineering. I'm not saying to just undo it like that,maybe we go step by step. What causes this,then what causes this in turn. Until we get to the beginning and try to fix things bottom up. Everybody else is a "top down" thinker. Which was created to dampen retards. All of galfed in a simplistic way is to make masses of cards behave as a single sane individual. That 1 individual being sane is more than all the retards can achieve as whole. That's what top down thinking is and what it's for.and what it achieves. A single succ for example is in a sense on the level of the entire galfed albeit not as large maybe. No one, and I mean seemingly actually no one. Can do what I can. Wtf. New earth has the capability and greys have the "inner nature" and iq. But I guess all lack "it".Which is the coming together of it all. Not that it's bad for new earth. They are a fully realized girl.greys are a "prideful child" though,not the same level.Which is beautiful in its own way. But not even up to the average man in a sane world. Why act so aggressive for example,are you that enslaved by feels.why not realize i don't know anything and just explain or ignore. Why feel threatened. If a man got reduced angry at a gorilla thumping his chest in a zoo does that not prove the man and the gorilla re on the same level? Or are you below me and seething.id like to help but geez.

>>14546 Greys don't work like that, their population is 40 trillion and they have no leadership. Those who talked to me now were from the group who dress in black BDU and identify as male (have actual penises which is rare for greys who normally have no sexual organs) so they of course act out the role of being aggressive males. That's what they chose to be. It seems no one else cares about Earth anymore, but they still have a research facility "south of Africa".

>>14547 Cutting of a penis to deal with lust is simply being enslaved by lust,so good. Anyway why cant the og humans just be eugenically selected. Breed the smarter ones get rid of the stupid ones.thays how it works in animals. I thought this degeneracy was the thing we tried to fix. Now it's all fine? Stupid.

>>14549 Because original humans were created in a fixed number (240 or something, I don't do well with numbers over telepathy) and didn't reproduce. Those were "Adam" in the bible. The greys created Lilith who had too high genetic standard so no one could impregnate her, then they made Eve who instead got mind infected by reptilianism and turned into the first "toxic female". After this they made 13 new females (all of this was genetically engineered humans created in labs) called "daughter of Eve" and they could have offspring, but they also turned out increasingly toxic over time. Daughter of Eve DNA is part of almost all modern humans to some %, while some isolated bloodlines have 100% of that DNA. Those don't have souls for the males, men are NPC only for that line, they're carriers for new daughters only. A typical grey solution, only half-thought through but does the job. Everyone else are aliens who basically invaded and caused a mess on Earth, those are the ones who are being contained with the reverse brain unless they stay very hidden.

>>14550 And we couldn't just cull the toxic ones and give the non toxic ones harems. Grey's am I being naive in my simplicity here?seems weird to say "it cant be fixed better than this".

>>14551 >cull the toxic ones and give the non toxic ones harems >and what do you think the master-slave system does? >what are the cattle wars and vaxx for? >why do the secret leaders have loli harems out of sight? t. grey 🙄

>>14552 So overtime humanity will reach the level where the brain thing can get straight again?

>>14553 The issue have is the reversed brain in itself apparently degenerates people. So that's not eugenics at all.

>>14554 >it doesn't, it makes them degenerate in a way which is controlled and less harmful >if you like we could give atomic bombs to monkeys and that would illustrate what the full brain experience is to them >we just gave monkey brains to monkeys, pig brains to pigs, and the suitable tools for their lifestyle

>>14546 Also I should clarify, I didnt mean I have the iq. But I have a "logical" masculine mindset. My actual iq isn't high at all,that's a brain thing (sigh). You could have a 190+iq and still not be a thinker in the way I mean or even logical.

>>14556 I'd say 90 or so iq is the minimum. Its more about thinking based on building up the fundamental understanding unlike the more "relational" thinking. Albeit i do both.

>>14556 >>14557 I don't know what you are saying and I don't know if the greys do either, they don't have anything to add though. They said the yellow snake took 100 000 years to produce a clear "master" type so the division could be imposed, because they are the "midgard snake" Thor has to battle, they embody the reversal of thinking within their own DNA, and seem immune to it like the green lizards, but they actually aren't immune to it, so fixing the issue would seem impossible as any conventional alteration would not change them. That's why they were causing so much shit in the modern world. I don't know why it worked now, but it has something to do with the "white" method compared to the "grey" one, even if they look identical, the greys have an ethical thing about vaccines and don't like them, while the whites use them to weaken populations in a "super deep battle" kind of manner, where they just randomly inject the troublesome populations with viruses and toxins until something sticks, then do more of that. Very unethical, so much that the greys didn't want to go near the method, but it worked now that they were called in for it.

>>14558 I have nothing to add, but hopefully as a gray soul once i leave the physical for any reason i will get my full brain again.I actually don't mind the explanation, just wonder why they had to be all offended. Now as for the overall grey and yellow snake thing, it does surprise me they are this high up the totem and this involved. Seems like they were the real masterminds behind humanity after all.I had always seen them as more a distant smaller thing.

>>14559 The greys are our planetary neighbours, Nibiru is within visual range of Earth's position, or was. The original Nibiru, the grey home planet. It takes just 10 min by saucer to come here, so it's just natural they would come.

I want every one of you listening to know that sex is EVIL and of the demiurge.

>>14619 Well duh. Anything having to do with reproduction and survival (or broadly speaking, entropy) is. Whatchu gonna do?

>smell old cellar wine out of nowhere Someone is doing some dimensional fuckery around here. Or multiple of you. Gonna be a fun night ahead. Nice. This is how a fringe supposed to be. Wizards doing wizard things. Kiddies please do your chants. The adults are going to party!

>>14948 I smelled "hot red wine" and something burned some while ago. Didn't pay attention to it because phantom smells and taste are normal to me. Most of the time it's one of my servitors doing some ritual on auto or someone else nearby so I don't really think of it.

>>14948 Wow, you picked that up? I did just do a spell. Smelled like fish to me. Organic writhing look. Some Christ imagery: Chi-Rho symbol.

>>14950 For some reason I tend to see the Chi-Rho symbol whenever I do a spell meant to generate solid physical gain or profit for myself.

>>14948 Tonight I saw some sort of entity that'd looked like pic related, outta the blue, while I was trying to go to bed early since I didn't know what else to do. It'd taken something from my hand, I forget what, and then it'd just swayed its limb up and down that it was holding it with. It'd gotten dealt with pretty quickly by either the Sonic egregores nearby or Heimdall; dunno which. It didn't seem too dangerous, but I suppose that that's what was fucking with the dimensions, or part of it, anyway. I wasn't too spooked by it.

>>14949 >I smelled "hot red wine" and something burned some while ago I turned up the heat and started burning stuff. Old dimensional structures were falling down. They belonged to no one, it was trash. I thought someone is feeling funny and breaking structures around to enter my personal dimension... it wasn't the case.It was normal dimensional disturbance... At least it made me do an hour+ meditation and karma & co cleansing. >Didn't pay attention to it because phantom smells and taste are normal to me Yeah I know. You are doing the spirit medium/witch lifestyle. But for me it is different. I keep my magical activities on an "another layer". I don't let idiotic entities attack me or dump their negative energies on me when I am not asking for it or give them a permission to "do their thing". When these smells appear it means someone is "creating an access point". Most of the time I am "even indirectly" connecting to something and that is why it happens. That is normal. When it happens "out of nowhere" it means that some old dimensional structure is breaking apart. If I didn't break it apart then WHO is doing the breaking? I rather be armed and ready before the portal opens than getting haunts and incursions that I didn't ask for. I had a few of them already in my noob years and they can take time to clean up. Ofc the phantom smell was within a single point which meant it's not a "frontal attack". Front of my computer and nowhere else. That meant that the originator is this board. Not always a direct attack or anything. Just energy leaks or frenzied spirits and such. This is normal with spellcasters as disorganized and diverse as we are. >>14950 >Wow, you picked that up? I did just do a spell. Smelled like fish to me. Organic writhing look. Some Christ imagery: Chi-Rho symbol. The smell was faint and "very distant". You probably made use of some old Christian egregore. The christian egregore is the most widespread with it's territory. Connecting to some decaying clergy dimensions is not exactly unheard if you were or are a devout christian, even if only a little. It represents the dominion of Christ and the Roman Empire's "collaboration". It is a symbol with multiple meanings and uses. >>14951 Yes this symbol has a strong "grounding" effect. The X is the four cardinal directions aka the physical and the P is heavens into the earth aka divine providence. It's like putting your flag into a territory and say that it belongs to you (to a devotee of Christ/Rome) now. Fish symbolizes abundance and reproduction too. Ahah. I have a direct link with the church egregore and they told me what happened. So. (You) did a spell asking for divine providence which utilized a higher power. As that higher power "struck down" to make your spell a "reality" it kinda pushed the "rubble" out it's way and that is why we noticed it. Nothing serious it seems. Business as usual. >>14956 First I wanted to say that it's a boob with tentacles lol With a closer look, that is a portal or an "aura" of an entity and the tentacles are his light/arms/authority. It could be anything and anyone. You are keeping too many spirits around. Can't say which one this was. After doing my meditation a weird but faint wound appeared on my right foot. It started to make water then turned into a larger rash like wound. I am fixing my foot for a while and this kind of wound appears in once a year... might relate to the hanged man tarot too. Or where Jesus was nailed on the foot. Working with the lower body parts for a while so this is not surprising. Just a sign that I should have taken my meditation more seriously yesterday and should have finished it properly. I was expecting a party you know... This thread >>14954 might be the after effects of that desire lingering within me. I was just breaking and burning stuff. Like old rooms and old parchments where the ink was barely even visible. Then noticed pathways in my body that was overwhelmed because the energies I used and I cleansed them too. Nothing major on my part. The reason why I didn't put too much effort into the meditation because I was waiting for someone to "do something". Then I felt like a fool for expecting to have some epic astral party/warfare which never came, so I went to bed instead. No, I am not looking for astral parties before some astral party organizer thinks I want one. I know enough places and guys if I want those. But parties that come to your doorstep are different. You must always welcome your guests with the stuff they need and deserve... Might make a Dionysian thread when I am drunk and inspired enough. People don't know how to party nowadays. How to bless wine and open themselves to the mystical intoxication of the ancient times. At least no one got hurt here either.

>>14951 >>14958 Forgot to attach the Chi Rho for the others to know what that is.

>>14958 >but the party never came The Amy egregore did keep telling me that nothings gonna happen. Guess I should've had the foresight to tell you before going to bed.

>>14958 I've actually been inviting you and some others from here to do space trips when I do them, arranged like the aliens do them when they do it perfectly: >no timeskip, no location change after returning I did announce this ahead of time and waited to see if someone would have accepted it and actually remembered it after, as it has to be recalled into "current" timeline memory after returning, and I did see one post about a week ago detailing events which sounded like one of the trips. Procedure will be to throw out the invite and then I let Astra just run the trip and I go through it after coming back again. I'm getting better at actually being aware of it such that it stays in real time memory time now, with the teleport up being the part that stays directly in awareness after coming back. The rest tends to get compressed, causing a feeling of "what did I just do" after returning, as if I forgot something.

>>14958 >foot I have a red spot which keeps appearing in the middle under one foot, making me think I stepped on some nettle or bee, but as it keeps coming back in the same spot I've whipped it aside as a Qi point being cleansed or something. I don't normally made far reaching conclusions about it, although I did get a similar thing on the palm of the hand once or twice with som itch. I don't believe it really has to do with Jesus, there is a Qi opening in the palm which is used for active spellcasting, so this part is easily explained, even if some prefer to think it's Jesus' wounds appearing on themselves. Taking it symbolically, sure you can call them that, but why would they literally appear on you if they were related to him?

>>14961 For clarification it mostly means visiting a federation space station with shops and restaurants. It appears various spa treatments have been popular with those I've invited. Because I don't expect anyone to have federation currency I've just arranged them on my bill, using abandoned resources I captured from public areas where it was unclear if anyone could claim them or not (zombie timelines). This way I don't just hog resources I don't even feel I need myself, and they may help someone else.

>>14961 ... I am certain that I am attending those trips. Unsure if they are yours or similar. Because the memories have 0 priority to materialize physically because they won't do much for my mundane duties. I have faint memories being in space, in strange realms, space ships, talking about stuff and dealing with strange beings. But if is not "altering my karma" in any harmful ways I don't really get notified of it. >>14962 >Taking it symbolically, sure you can call them that, but why would they literally appear on you if they were related to him? Yeah I know it sounded very Christ obsessed to say it that way... but you know. Jesus managed to create an extremely strange ritual for himself to put the necessary pressure points to his hands and foot. Channeling the "Qi of the heavens and earth" is done by that. Through the palms and the foot... while wearing the crown of thorns to also put pressure on your head and to connect the nerves like you connect with thorny spikes. Sometimes i want to talk about this. But I don't want merely spout "christconsciousness" tier sounding theories. I want to perform and present how it works. No not getting crucified. Just showing of the energy work that happened with the crucifixion and why Jesus realized he had to go through with that no matter how bad it looks. Why God wanted him to do it etc. Becoming a "Gate" is not easy task But I am too lazy to do that because it's extremely dangerous if done half hearted. The fact that I made a wound on one of my main pressure point when I tried to remove karma shows what an unskilled practitioner I am. It means the "dirt" didn't manage to exit properly thus created a minor infection. Still investigating this part of me because I didn't really care about the lower parts of my body in my initiate years. Back then everything went to the third eye for spirit vision and crown chakra for divine insights and for egregore/mind control. Root and solar plexus only served to keep my spine fired up to fuel my higher chakras. An imbalanced approach. Healing the after effects it in the past years because it was the reckless idiot's way of spirituality. But it was effective enough on my skill level. That is why I kept it up. >>14960 >The Amy egregore did keep telling me that nothings gonna happen She said that to calm you down. And I turned off my pooter after posting that. I am not perma online. Especially when I do my spiritual workings. Even if you say that I wouldn't have seen it till now. You are mighty stable nowadays btw. Congrats. Keep it up

>>14964 Now that you started posting about it, I can see the method, but as you may be aware, I don't believe the Jesus character is real as described. Mary had two sons who were both confused to be the same in later history, and one of them according to what she told me, actually did go to Japan like that cult or whatever claims there. But neither of them were any special and they didn't have any achievement. What I'm seeing the image of now isn't either of them, and it also isn't the mantis Jesus who founded the Jesuits. It's someone else. The lore has been very streamlined to fit oral tradition, imo, and there is little connection to the real events as they are now retold. There is a functional method in going directly to God while ignoring the laws as told by Moses, but this seems to only become possible to explain when going into deeper aspect of Kabbalah, where the outspoken law would be knowledge, Binah and the true understanding is wisdom, Chokmah, which cannot be spoken. So the method is more of a shift from Binah to Chokmah than anything revolutionary, now when I look at it in retrospective. As I wrote before (maybe in blog thread #1, don't remember), the conclusions in the new testament are still wrong as explained now. The original sin wasn't a single logical step which could be reversed by a single person for everyone, it's something repeated by every generation for themselves. So one person dissolving it won't save others. If he really did, then their achievement would be destroyed, they would have it stolen from them as the trial was already solved. I wish it would be true in some other way, and maybe it is, but then this part would have to be solved. Removing someone's trial will make their achievement meaningless and they won't value it either, and may throw it away again.

>>14965 I guess it could work if it relies on a "champion" who solves it for everyone on their behalf, but that transforms their trial into one of faith in the champion instead. As I never had any doubts about anything, this trial would be invisible to me, inconceivable. I can't struggle with faith like those people do, and I don't really see how there is any benefit in replacing the solving of original sin as the trial, with a trial of faith. It doesn't make it easier, but just seems to advocate for leader worship.

>>14966 The method with the crown of thorns and the cross causing the separation of the arms at Geburah-Chesed makes these connections blocked. But the thorns can be supposed to be from a rose bush, making it possible to open the flower on the crown if all energy is concentrated there. The law isn't used, and Daat is unavailable because Kether is blocked. This forces the connection Yesod-Malkuth (the kingdom being for the "king", messiah etc role) to open despite it also being blocked because Kether is the higher representation of this connection. So it removes "God" and replaces him with "the king", and that is how "God descended and became flesh". A quite heretic method, but it does something. Not sure exactly what, or why someone came up with this, but it's a method.

>>14967 I'm sure you can read my energy signature after performing this. It only took around 10 min once I figured it out.

>>14965 >I can see the method Yes. That is the "Gate". >>14966 >I guess it could work if it relies on a "champion" who solves it for everyone on their behalf I wanted to start talking about it sooner or later. But what "Jesus is about" is... Kabbalah for retards. So instead of "solving it for yourself" you invoke Jesusman with the power of the cross by following his teachings "carry the cross" and such. The cross can represent your body. So it's either you are the "lifeless cross" that Jesus carries... or you become Jesus himself! Then carry the cross for yourself or for others. Now who is who here is not important. The only thing that matters is it works or not. >I don't believe the Jesus character is real as described Because "everyone will have to become Jesus"... to make this work so they can "carry the cross for others" and such. There are too many Jesuses as there are too many Buddhas. When I look at the history of religions and cults I see too many lines go into too many directions. There are "focal points" that have more movement and energy but there is not "clear center". All roads lead to Rome. Rome is the center in a way. The New Testament explains how Jesus merged with Rome thus gained the greatest egregoric authority in our current history. The Roman Empire had multiple issues. The Emperors were deified after their death only. That way Rome could only worship it's past and never work for it's present and future. That is what Hitler and Stalin wanted to solve with the personality cult when they tried to become the "New Rome". They were great leaders but they weren't skilled occultists. It worked but wasn't perfect in any way... but let's not detach from the main topic too much now When Rome's past meant "traditions" and culture it was workable. Once it meant degeneracy and politics/money then it lead nowhere. When imperial cults and guilds/professions/art still had their patron God the egregores had divine influence. Once people forgot their gods then it was bad. Hard to explain why it worked on the empire level, but it created unity. The problem with archetypal Gods that once you conquer a new tribe/kingdom/location and they have the same archetypal God then they are unwilling to cede theirs and acknowledge yours as their own. Mostly because the genetic connection is not there. The God of Jesus wasn't "race oriented". He was no longer for the Jews only. Mostly because when Jesus was walking on earth the Jews were racially impure as hell already. Genetic magic wasn't viable anymore. That is why Jesus had to get creative. That is why foreskin and other Jewish laws were unnecessary for his method. It was not the same as it was for Abraham and Moses (btw if you don't believe in the Jesus character unsure what you say about the Abraham character) That is why the Rabbis didn't like him because he didn't fulfill multiple requirements. He just skipped them and explained how they are unnecessary if people are willing to follow him and not entangle themselves with the karma of jews and other sinners btw Moses failed because the jews were still the dominion of the Egyptian thinking. The passover was supposed to cut that connection, but once they made that golden statue Moses knew they are still in the Egyptian mindset. That is why a million rules and laws had to be created so the jews don't stick to faulty mindsets. >>14967 >A quite heretic method, but it does something. Not sure exactly what, or why someone came up with this, but it's a method. I don't want to comment on it now but the point is. Jesus becomes a "Gate" that way he can connect several connection points for others. If you have a missing connection point then Jesus will connect it for you if you accept him as your lord and savior. That way he gets the authority to connect it for you. Jews with their kvetching always had problem with following any leader that wasn't David... that is why the Messiah needs to be a descendant of David too... Ofc Jesus underestimated the actual necessities. That is why the crucifixion event had to happen with the 3 crosses and the 2 criminals by his side on a mountain. >>14968 There are way too many configurations and the reason why I didn't talk about it yet because it's hard to explain and I didn't wanted to disturb your Kabbalistic study yet. There are multiple mysteries hidden here that are hard to talk about. We cannot create a "schism" by making a separate understanding. That is why Moses got lost for 40 years in the desert because most Jews were unwilling to integrate his method. That is what the cross does. You want to be Jesus via worshiping him THEN YOU GET NAILED TO THE CROSS AND YOU WILL BE SAVED. This way the Kabbalistic integration cannot be rejected via doubt, fear or frustration. There is more ofc, but Kabbalah is a strange beast. You either do it alone or with a community that is perfectly united and supports each other. The only reason Judas became Judas because that was his role. He didn't do it by his own will. This way traitors will kill themselves out of shame. All your shadows all your karma will kill itself out of shame for not accepting Jesus... and there are more and more implications that can work if you have NO IDEA wtf are you doing just merely believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior and you will be saved. And no I will not give Bible examples because when I start reading it I get furious because I see the energetic connections and how mistranslated and misunderstood that whole thing is.

>>14969 One last thing. Christianity merging with Rome is the ultimate middle finger to Judaism. Why? Jews had to flee from Egypt. What Did Rome do? They conquered it! This way Egypt is the vassal of Rome. And jews are still slaves to Egypt until the Messiah comes thus they are the slaves of Rome. That is why they have to defeat Rome or they will be kicked out of all it's successors like they were kicked out from Egypt. This ofc only works if you live and think on race and country level. If you only do Kabbalah you can shed this societal karma like you can take off an old jacket. That is why Kabbalah must be done alone or with like minded individuals who are willing to abandon society and all it's sin. That is what the 40+ years requirements entail. You are past 40, you don't care about money and women anymore. You are willing to use the power of the Kabbalah to find God. The 40 years of being lost in the desert is something jews do IRL. Being lost in society is the same as being lost in the desert with Moses. Once they are able to find Moses they find the promised land... or they go back into Egypt and become slaves again... oops This is why all their curses/traditions/laws serve to help them cut any connection or shield them from foreign cultures and their karma/Gods. My post was rambly for a reason. Do not take it seriously. This is a warning for everyone. There is too much nuance that would take years to explore and explain. Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

>>14969 >if you don't believe in the Jesus character unsure what you say about the Abraham character That's different. There are certain persons named in the bible who appear directly to me when reading about them. This includes some women mentioned by their name and family relations, and the author of the book of revelation. Those are all directly real historical figures. Abraham as well as Enoch are both available and real. But this isn't true for many characters, who are just characters. >I didn't wanted to disturb your Kabbalistic study That's probably impossible, your thinking is too detached from mine to even make it possible for me to relate most of the time. You didn't really address anything I had in mind with your post here now, so nothing was disturbed. Not saying it isn't relevant, just that you are not connecting to what I was talking about. I'm fine with the materials I found on the yeshiva website, this stuff is pretty well hidden for being in plain view on the clearweb, but it actually has Jews being nice, rational and even funny, acting like perfectly normal people, and not at all like those you see on the news who are a mix of cringe, insanity and morbid rage. But they do all they can to hide this side of themselves, because being humane is apparently some esoteric secret today.

>>14970 Btw related sort of: during the night I became are of a huge and monstrous thing, wondering wtf it this appearing in my vision. Then it kinda made me remember those satanic looking statues in the vatican, and I didn't feel this thing was actually bad, so I "assumed" this may just be some female entity, as they seem to be like that. Once I did, from the midst of this monster appeared a female angel. I had some interactions with her, and it was implied she's the guardian of the vatican, and the monster is her very much chaotically expanded animus, which is so large it's hard to at all see her in the middle of it.

>>14972 This. I mean it's like literally Silent Hill right there, but that's what she looked like. It's not made up.

>>14971 >You didn't really address anything I had in mind with your post here now, so nothing was disturbed. Not saying it isn't relevant, just that you are not connecting to what I was talking about. Yes. By design. Found the way eggAnon reads my posts when he proceeds ignore all the relevant things I try to say to him. Integrated it when I do not want to connect to specific magical signatures but merely talk about other topics. This way I don't mindbreak myself when I read some stuff here. Had to reverse engineer how the fuck his subconscious keeps him in perpetual retardation and anxiety. It's like having blinders that blocks energy signatures when you know a word or sigil leads somewhere. There are stuff I am not ready share yet. These are surface level stuff I said so far. If I read your stuff a schism might appear because I won't be able to not comment on it. If my way is better than yours then I must convert you or you have to convert me. I do not want to stay here and post for 3 days straight. >>14971 >That's different. There are certain persons named in the bible who appear directly to me when reading about them Oh right. Forgot you are not catholic. Catholic egregore fuels their strongest champion. Orthodoxy has the authority of Rome after the fall of Constantinople. Other off-shoots are... weird. Sometimes it's a mere demon that just stirs shit up and in other cases local land bound entities don't want to suffer under the light of Jesus because it cancels some stuff out. >>14972 And here it is. Wanted to talk how you are not catholic yet you commented on the Vatican already. We have a connection. We must make sure to not ruin it by saying the wrong things or things might short circuit. Also yes. Angels have monstrous versions/forms or subjects. The current Vatican is an artificial entity. Hard to explain it's current role. >>14973 Pic is how the salvation of evil souls look like if seen from the lower levels. They will all shed these ugly parts of theirs. 3 guys sit there like the 3 crosses. Mussolini had one role and he fulfilled that. Making peace with the Vatican. Before that Italy didn't have a leader strong enough to make amends between the warring city states Italy... Every city state of Italy has it's own God. That is why the supremacy of Rome was necessary. One city one Empire... One God, One Messiah...

>>14974 >Mussolini For some reason they hanged him this way. They could have lynched and shot him. Nope. Hanged this symbolically. Coincidences as usual. This is why doing Gods work is a dangerous mission My internet went out while trying to post this. fukken typical

Ok I said enough heresy? for today. I will let others to say their takes for a while.

>>14974 Glad it was able to help someone at least; it's a decent description of how it works. However, what causes it to malfunction is that it makes too many assumptions about what leads to a bad energy signature; way too many. The tulpas of evil spirits that are constantly trying to subvert my every thought and even heart & sexual energy flows were made by paranoia that actual evil spirits would do that. Constantly being paranoid that these things will happen will cause the paranoia to manifest somehow, and the specifics were provided so many times to the subconsciousness that I'd unwittingly created tulpas that do it. These same tulpas also try to force me to cozy up to evil spirits sometimes via. subconscious manipulation because it's assumed that evil spirits would do that. Recently also been having a problem about the tulpas forcibly conflating specific non-evil entities with evil spirits, such that an attempt to contact or send energies to an entity A will cause the tulpas to make the energies/contact go to an evil entity B instead. So I constantly have to outmanuever the tulpas by not thinking hard enough about it for the tulpas to find out. At least I'm assuming tulpas are responsible and not other mental illness. Not asking for more help with that btw; just felt like talking about it.