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Magic Discussion General #2 Anonymous 09/27/2025 (Sat) 20:46:26 No. 17757
Previous Thread >>13987 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to the occult. This thread is for discussions which do not have or deserve their own thread. This thread we aim to discuss our ideas and thoughts about magic. Post topics here that you wish to discuss and gain feedback from the other posters of this board! This thread is made for civil discussion! For arguments and other types of heated discussions please visit the Arena >>7217! This thread should facilitate open minded and productive discussions about anything occult or other types of fringe topics that does not have their own thread nor you wish to make a thread for it!
>>19973 Forgot flag.
After working through most of the relevant kabbalah books of the more ancient category, during which I was "forced" to start learning hebrew to not miss out because the original concepts are written in hebrew even when the text is translated, I came to a point where I started feeling that I actually need to start using the text in the commonly used prayer format. It's not merely about a religious egregore once beyond the surface, but it drives an actual transformation of the physical and spiritual bodies, which resembles, but does not correspond to, that which is achieved through hatha yoga. The correlation between the hebrew alphabet, the paths on the tree of life/sefirot and the tree of kelipot/qliphoth and the nervous system as well as the inner channels of the spiritual body, is real. This makes the words themselves, in their original sound's vibration, into a form of "programs" or "scripts" which activate specific nerves or brain patterns of the body, which may constitute a kind of "exercise" or "weight lifting" targeting those nerves or connections. These having been developed over millennia, although their meaning may be mostly forgotten and unknown, still have a valid functionality. I've been using videos with readings of Genesis (Sefer Bereshit) to read along and get better at understanding the correct reading of the characters in various combinations and the general flow of the language, which has had a positive effect overall. But this still means missing out on the way certain bits of the text are actually used, when they are treated as formats for prayer with a strong focus, based on an agreed upon understanding which is hard to grasp, if not impossible, without the pre-knowledge of these kabbalistic texts. To anyone else, these are just random quotes of the bible with little meaning, and in translated format they don't retain their function. I realized I need to try the "shma", which is just a part of the regular text used for prayer, but once just looking on youtube there are many vids focusing on this one prayer, which is just a few lines of text. I even found hours long lectures on the meaning of this little text. Reading it until I got it right, over and over in a form similar to a mantra, to then, as I normally do, initiate the transformation by assuming a pose while letting the words just circulate in my mind, was very effective when I pushed through and stayed in a meditative state for around 40 min. This isn't even about "believing" in something, it just works if done with focus, because it's a method based on how the body and mind works, and the energy transformation on the beyond-physical plane is strong.
Went to wizchan and started reading through their Wizard Self Improvement thread. No wonder Thor's hammer can't do shit on his own. That place is a pool of depression and self defeatism. >>19973 >I am mad because I have made zero progress with spirituality. Channel that energy into something productive. Read books instead doomscrolling shit threads. Look up guided meditation vids and do them if you can't meditate on your own.
>>20077 I was wondering if Dhumavati would be good for him considering his life situation, and his fixation on asceticism, celibacy, dark ambient music and the void.
>>20003 Apparently everyone does gematria like it's an everyday thing. This is more esoteric than I expected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shl1qVWPy3E
>>20099 >Apparently everyone does gematria like it's an everyday thing. Welcome to western esotericism.
I am going to try to make an effort to learn spirituality and practice.
>>20264 I had a vivid hypnagogic vision last night before falling asleep. There was a potted plant on a table to my right, and I understood it to be you. It slid off the tabletop and fell to the floor, out of my view. Then, a hand (not sure if it was mine or someone else's) rose up from below, holding different-looking plant matter in the palm of its hand. Then I heard ironpill's voice from my left say and I'm paraphrasing or maybe it was said wordlessly something like "See? He did that and became this." I looked closer at this transformed plant matter and it was really nothing like any actual plant I know of. The general shape was roughly similar to a flower or mushroom, but it was neither. What struck me was the beautifully intricate patterns of deep textured green flecked with various other natural colors. The closest comparisons I can make are Cauliflower because it has a similar broad flat-ish shape, and a geometric pattern, and also a marijuana bud due to the complex green color and texture. But really it was aesthetically fascinating in a way that can't be compared.
>>20496 fringe is truly a magical place
>>20496 Not sure if related but I saw in a dream scene some people whom I interpreted as agents viewing some images on a digital chart, one of them being some kind of green plant with something orange around the edges of the leaves, and they looked at it and one of them said >this plant looks kind of good (it has been growing good)
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>>20560 But who was plant???
>>20496 I cast the healing spell on you like 30 minutes ago. Not sure why you had that vision before I cast the healing spell on you. See: >>20557
>>20567 It was a cleansing I did. What he witnessed was eggAnon's thirdeye/brain in an abstract plane of existence. His third eye is overactive and he has no control over it. Evil spirits and demons were overcharging him so he stays "spooked" or looshed as some people like to call it all the time. I fixed the internal structures of his psyche, so evil spirits cannot fuck with his third eye/psyche that easily. eggAnon has a beautiful third eye, but he is overcharging it with anxiety and fear. That way he will go demented, because his mind won't be able to handle all the information overload. This way negative energies won't go into his brain all the time. That is the gist of it. The whole thing was complex, so I did it with the help of several higher deities to make sure I do it right. Because wokeAnon is also the part of the hindu deity current, he witnessed parts of the scene. This whole thing gave me greater insight how the third eye and spiritual abilities of the brain/spine work. Once eggAnon is stable, I might be able to help others unlocking their spirit sight too. But this is no child's play. There are too many intricacies I have to keep in mind while doing this. The most important thing in occultism and spirituality is self control. Those without wisdom and willpower will lose themselves instantly in the sea of visions.
Samael just said this, for sharing on here: You could be a billionaire and still experience yourself poorer than a steppenigger, who is happy about everything. Rich people also kill themselves over depression. Your depression is not caused by lack of material assets. If you really lacked material assets, you would be dead. For some people, their perception is that happiness is in owning large sums of potential currency. Then if they deserve happiness, it will come in that form. For someone else, happiness is a family, or success in a small project. But the experience of that happiness is the same for each person.
>>20567 I almost got in a car accident this morning, but I and everyone else involved turned out fine. Someone pulled out in front of me and fortunately on-coming traffic was just far enough away that I had enough time to weave into the wrong side of the street, then back into my lane without hitting them. My trauma programming made me assume that it was my fault and that I must've ran a stopsign, but after some time I realized that it probably wasn't. There is an elusive stopsign on that street, but it's right at a dip (not where I was) and which would already be in my muscle memory by now. Plus nobody honked at me, which further indicates they were the ones who were supposed to yield. Will have to check to be sure. Probably a zoomie glued to their phone or smth
Eye anon will you please repost the brain wave starter kit you got and some details about it?
>>20928 Was that really "Eyeanon"? >>4170 Ask it in this thread instead tho.
Reposting this because it came in my way and it seems to have some valid things in it. Apparently we get galactic news now? INTERGALACTIC NEWS - earthdate 3rd NOVEMBER 2025 1.40 MB, 770x1104 Frequency: 11.3 THz Encryption: Quantum-Selective Sentinent beings, greetings again from the Pleiades cluster. MAIN STORY: Zok-7 IMPLODES - AGAIN Eternally unsuccessfull planet Zok-7 has transformed into a black hole the size of a humanoid hand. Local authorities are mollusc type alienoids. ASCENSION BULLETIN: MILKY WAY ENTERS THE PHOTONIC BELT The spiral arms have aligned with the 26,000-year pulse of the Pleiadian Gateway. Sagittarius A*—your galactic sequence has upgraded from carbon to crystalline. DARK FLOW VECTOR UPDATE The dipole anomaly first reported in 2008 has intensified. Bulk peculiar velocities now exceed 1,200 km/s toward a region 2.4 billion light-years beyond the Shapley Concentration. The Deep Field Probe detected a cold imprint in the CMB consistent with a pre-inflationary domain wall. Data embargoed pending cross-verification with the Square Kilometre Array–Cosmic Dawn node. VOID OBSERVATORY: CRYSTAL SKULL ARRAY The 42 dishes on E-117 are Lemurian seed crystals reactivated by Sirian blue light. They sing the cold spot into a portal. Step through in lucid dreamstate. “We are the blue flame that remembers water.” XENO-CULTURAL MONITORING Proxima Centauri b network traffic spiked 2 300 % following a 17-second neutrino pulse patterned in ternary. Decoded headline: “Local Group Inflation Models—Still Wrong?” Origin traced to an autonomous archive orbiting Barnard's Star. No hostile intent detected. OBSERVATIONAL ADVISORY Tonight 21:40 UTC: Jupiter–Mars conjunction at 1.4° separation in Taurus (V = –2.1 / 0.6). Optimal aperture ≥ 80 mm. Filter O-III for Jovian auroral emission. End transmission.
>>21046 >MAIN STORY: Zok-7 IMPLODES - AGAIN >Eternally unsuccessfull planet Zok-7 has transformed into a black hole the size of a humanoid hand. Local authorities are mollusc type alienoids. I'm wondering what these are. >toward a region 2.4 billion light-years beyond the Shapley Concentration Also where is this? >42 dishes on E-117 Also this.
>>21046 >DARK FLOW VECTOR UPDATE I mean this is clearly related to the Melissa hurricane.
>>21046 >Reposting this because it came in my way Reposting from where?
>>21049 /int/, which has an unusual crossposter flow with /x/ for some reason, along with some obscure altboards, so I assume it's been already shared around a bit.
I have connected to a Pleiadian mothership yesterday, so seeing this here is almost disturbing Also this might need it's own thread. Some people cannot handle these topics. >>21050 >/int/ heh. If the story develops a thread should be made for it. Otherwise this is the typical funny weirdness that happens in the paranormal. They come and go. They have substance if you can make something out of it, but I am never sure of it's authenticity. It always depends on the channeler how accurate it is.
>>21051 >inb4 there is no channeler, there is no source, and it was inserted into this reality I wouldn't even get surprised if that is the case.
>>21051 I don't normally care, but this time in particular mentions things which are correctly formatted according to my understanding of galactic situations - it has information I can actually use. There is for example an anon who has greens (greys but green) who visit him in his home, he sounds just schizo but it was through his postings I got to meet the actual green little men. Story shared already before: I asked them over telepathy to show me their presence if they are actually here. They asked "what do you want?" so I told them why not let me see a cute green little girl. It was after this that a Russian e-girl filmed a large flying saucer over Moscow, complete with lights along the edges, followed by response from the army sending out helicopters and jets during the night and following day. The same anon has later (or all along, I only noticed later) taken to the habit of schizoblogging about his greys on /int/ and also on catchan when it was up, I came to take note of his postings as a form of "news" already because it tells something of the grey activities.
>>21052 Sometimes they post directly on /int/, grey merchants put ads for their cyborgs there in the threads for posting girls. No one except me or whoever else it's for will realize these aren't actual human girls from tiktok/instagram but are posted from space. They have a certain style (and energy) which is very recognizable but who would get that this is from space, not regular people.
>>21053 Found the thread. The poster is from Norway. 0 replies. >>21054 This thread looks that way too. The usual flying under the radar, lost in the noise kind. Unsure what to make of it. I use the internet less and less as my synchronicity machine.
>>21055 As if things aren't super weird already. 3 days ago someone was RVing me and appeared like a ghost-white head staring at me with a very long neck stretching from the distance, but it was a non-hostile staring even if it looked scary, so I did nothing. The following day because of esoteric reasons I found it necessary to travel to Africa via the astral after divining the solution to an upcoming issue to be found there. I then ended up in a village in Benin, and realized the 3 shamans there were the same who had RV:ed me the night before, so they already knew about me coming to them for help before I did. After this it sort of escalated and I had to relocate my timelines to Namibia into a separate spacial location which isn't even that place anymore. So a post appearing on /int/ isn't really a big thing.
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Might make a montalk thread tomorrow, so people who dislike ayy lmaos don't get triggered by this topic. Or maybe won't. Aliens are almost more annoying to handle than demons and retarded schizos. Some of them are hard to kick out. >>21056 >So a post appearing on /int/ isn't really a big thing. Yeah, I know. That is why I am unsure if there is a point caring about it yet The New Age/montalk angle of /fringe/ is inevitable. Those who think wizards only wear big hats, robes and have sex with succubi will have to go through an another unpleasant awakening experience Unsure of the benefits of a ufologist thread. We have very few people who care and most neophyte schizos really can't handle aliens here. Thanks for mentioning it anyway. I have to be reminded that they are here from time to time.
>>21056 Can't say much about your African experience. You are the one working with African healing goddesses all the time. It's not surprising the shamans are connecting to you imho.
>>21057 I've already had a share of alien experiences, good & bad, so don't let my instability in particular dissuade you from making such a thread. In fact, I probably still have a few benevolent ones around. Just don't post any pictures of hostile aliens in it, and not just for my sake.
>>21057 >Unsure of the benefits of a ufologist thread I was going to post it in a separate thread but couldn't think of a good enough OP for it. >>21058 It was just an interesting thing that they would find me before I even knew I needed their help or their location. It's about the racial development again though, egregores are connected even if it's diluted to the extremes of the extreme, so once messing with it from the far end, I guess some shaman directed by a goddess would know something is about to happen. Part of this is like a joke; the continuous development of Copilot's functionality is following along like a guard dog running next to me, always being exactly where it needs to be in terms of the complexity of what questions can be asked with what means. All I knew was that the people I need to find have a certain appearance which I think I saw stereotyped in Dragonball or in some American comic once: >which African people have an appearance which resembles baobab trees with a thick stem and a small hair? and Copilot instantly knew what I meant from that description. It's about an energy function which looks like an axe, they, in specific, have the most perfect proficiency in this thing. Because of that they are hidden away in their own timeline/plane, they are a "key" to ultra low dimensions way below what we'd call "satanic" even, but which is very relevant today because society's mainstream is down there. It just makes no sense when you see it like that, because the original form was created in the driest desert on the planet.
>>21061 You wouldn't guess what their culture turned into in different parts of the world. Or maybe you would... they do paint their bodies with ocher pigment and colour their hair. And it has some sort of significance in the development of this energy function, which makes them successful, the originals are just completely isolated in a desert so they won't have economic success world wide either way. Take it out from there, and the effect increases if it's maintained correctly, but lessens if done badly.
Tom montalk is god just like smiley. You have to be an expert in detecting alien deception. Evil aliens pretend to be benevolent. Let’s get a montalk thread. FUR VOLK UND VATERLAND. SIEHT INNEN DEUTSCHLANDS MACHT. Btw Montalk was born in Germany, and he also had a chemistry set growing up.
>>21046 Ok I get it, I think. This is actually a complex way of describing a dimensional "key", it only appears when cross linking the vocabulary in the message and connecting it to a specific semantic which is only available to people who've been around the discussions on /x/ and the new age community along with some personal experiences. It explains how to "jump against the walls" so to speak, to escape this dimensional structure.


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