>>18582 I really want to call you a Romanian, but I don't want you to be caraV&.

>>18582 >If you take something then you will need to give something in return. If you give something then you will get something as a compensation This makes zero sense in my experience. The only balancing I've ever seen is that energy seeks a base line that is the middle point among all of the existing frequencies in a system, but nothing like that new age nonsense. In fact, the base line can be completely fucked up and unfair if the energies in question have been deforming for a long time. Seriously, not that charmed power of three 20th century hollywood bullshit.

>>18587 Thank you. I might actually leave this board altogether for good if I start seeing people believing in mundane misinterpretations of esoteric knowledge due to lack of practice. Because the only way you can believe in "everything you do comes back, and you experience as a victim everything you do as perpetrator because we're here to learn" and "soul contract" bullshit is through lack of practice. Jesus Christ, and someone in this board is *married to a wife*? What the fuck is this bullshit! I'm out of here. Enjoy "being an adult", whatever that means.

>>18591 When that "compensation" happens it's because there are energies in the opposite side of the spectrum and you should not be doing magic with those in place precisely because they react violently. Simple example: I have engrained poverty mentality, but I cast a spell for riches. The riches manifest, but the much stronger long term poverty mentality swoops in and causes a "balancing" (seemingly) to happen. But it could be the energies of the place, nature spirits, etc. not only your own. This is why "know thyself" is incredibly important, and why you are always required to get to deeply know the energies in your life before you do any magic. This kind of thing wouldn't have happened to you if you had worked the first chapters of Initiation into Hermetics, for example, before you went chasing shiddis. Honestly, what you described is what happens when a mundane goes and tries to do magic. He blows himself up. A decade? That's nothing. Try 30 years and you will start to understand something about magic. And even then we know nothing. We shouldn't try to figure out how the universe works so nilly willy because we will be wrong.

>>18593 Be ause you didn't address what made the barrel break in the first place. That's a perfect example. >underlying energy causes you to have a broken barrel >without addressing or understanding why, you force it to its previous state >the same energy rebounds with the extra strength you gave it by forcefully denying it >you end up with the energy reasserting itself and you believing in some karma bullshit Instead, you should've contacted the energy that made the barrel break in the first place, cleansed/replaced/appeased it, and then mended the barrel or replaced it. Otherwise, even if you did nothing, you have something in your area that breaks things like that, and it will continue to happen. It has nothing to do with karma, because that's a concept that was perverted by the Theosophists when they appropriated hindu concepts left and right, and caused the whole world to misunderstand them.

Okay, I'm out for good. I need to finally accept there's nothing left for me in /fringe/ anymore.

>>18618 See you tomorrow!

>>18617 Very well put.

>>18616 >>18617 You're assuming too much. You come off saying things like "karma doesn't exist", then you go on and explain how it works. Why? You're just being needlessly argumentative. I know exactly why the water barrel broke: I left it out over night when it was freezing degrees, with water left in it. Water expands when frozen, so it broke. I fixed it with a underlying intent of "this can't do me harm which nullifies the fix" and that was the result. I shared this example because you (and someone else) was talking as if "you can do anything and there are no consequences except what you mentally add", which isn't true. You're just deflecting by rewording what "karma" is while describing the same thing. >>18618 This is what I felt long ago. That's why I instead post what I want to be on /fringe/. If it doesn't have something for me, I make it have something for me.

>>18618 >I need to finally accept there's nothing left for me in /fringe/ anymore. <Take everything from fringe you can without giving anything back in return <Wtf there is nothing left for me here >How could this happen?

>>18654 It seems as though you're intentionally trying to misunderstand that person's post. You made the claim that you can't get material benefit with magic without hurting yourself and he explained how you actually can. That's the natural course of this discussion You're the one being needlessly argumentative by aggressively strawmanning and then deflecting to describing basic physical causality as though it's in any way relevant to the topic at hand.

>>18453 Here's your number pal!

I wish I was a wizpilled wizcel and not a crabpilled crabcel. Voluntary celibacy reigns supreme. Social and sexual desire basically force me to interact with normalfags and therefore be shit on by the social hierarchy. If I was asexual and had schizoid personality “disorder” I would be immune to the normalfags. They hate me. And they are genetically superior in body and fuck with me.

>>18615 >>18789 The Duality of Banana

>>18781 Just choose not to care. Not that hard.

>>18699 You make a good point. So in order to properly cut ties, I've decided to take down all of the /fringe/ archives on Neocities. I'm sorry to the BO, because they will have to replace a ton of links. But like I said, I need to move on. Since Librarian passed this on to me, it's not in my right to simply delete it all, so you can download them here and host them yourself. The link expires in a week: https://limewire.com/d/8DVH7#ywItmIk2yx

>>18930 >you got a good point <now I will take even more away from the board! Wonder if anyone will care. It feels like no one bothered reading the archives so far.

>>18953 I cared enough to download it, but I'm not gonna host it; I would pass it onto someone else to host later if that someone would be interested, though.

>Librarian Boy, I miss Librarian

>>18930 called it >>18619

>>18930 >I'm sorry to the BO, because they will have to replace a ton of links >they Does the BO consist of multiple small gnomes or you merely fear to misgender him? Really hope BO is made up of multiple small gnomes tho. This way they can share the workload of remaking the links.

It really irritates me that that guy nuked the fringe archives even though it was costing him zero money. It’s almost as if he did it just to spite us.

>>19259 Yeah. It always happens in occult forums. Whenever you hurt the feelings of the admin or some moderator they will destroy whatever they can as a final fuck you. I have seen it happen many times. This is why fringe was always precious. It always managed to get back on it's feet one way or the other. We can call smiley every swear word that exist in the word, but he never nuked the website when he had a schizo meltdown. When his stuff was deleted it always came from outsiders. Really hope the .zip file he got from Librarian doesn't contain any malware.

>>19387 If it does I have it; i'll go download malwarebytes and give it a look

>>19453 I don't think it has anything, but it never hurts to be cautious.

>>19259 >>19387 Honestly it was a deserved response to this snarky garbage >>18699 If I had spent years doing a public service like this only for someone to accuse me of "Taking everything from fringe you can without giving anything back in return" just for making a complaint, I'd be a bit miffed as well.

>>19456 That snarky garbage was a deserved response to Initiate's snarky garbage he's been spewing all over this board for the past year and a half

>>19457 No it's not. You act like making a complaint about /fringe/ is a mortal sin or something. If your default response to that is to yell "fuck you and fuck off", you shouldn't be surprised when parts of the community that you previously took for granted decide to withdraw their support.

>>19458 >a complaint >singular tbh I think you're only downplaying his hysterical behavior because he also had a hate boner for your nemesis

>>19459 By "hate boner" do you mean the fact that he actually presented a coherent and interesting metaphysical argument in response to one of his claims? Is this guy a /fringe/ personality that I don't know about or something? All I know about him is that he showed up and made some interesting posts ITT, you posted about how you got a warning dream or something about him "picking a fight" (he wasn't), then you acted like a snarky child when he said he was going to leave. Even Blood Anon himself had a more rational response to this guy's posts than you did. And yeah it upsets me quite a bit when I see these new posters come in with interesting things to say only for you to react first with a weird passive aggressiveness making posts in other threads about how you have a feeling about how they're malicious or something which inevitably escalates into outright aggression as a logical course of action, and ends in the interesting poster leaving /fringe/ forever. I don't like it.

>>19460 So he "spent years doing a public service," but he's also a new poster? You seem confused.

>>19462 Alright my computer crashed twice in a row after I was finished writing out a response. I guess I'll just say instead that I assumed that this sort of snarky pedantic behavior was beneath you. This entire situation stinks.

>>19453 Malwarebytes found no malware in the archives, nor on the entire computer.

>>19462 >You seem confused. He confuses you with an another poster too... >>19489 >I assumed that this sort of snarky pedantic behavior was beneath you. This entire situation stinks. You assume too many things. I do not engage in these arguments for a reason. There is a large negative energy discharge that not even your computer can handle. This is what happens when there is a break in the Sangha (community) and why breaking the Sangha in Buddhism is a major crime. This is what happens when people argue for argument's sake without seeing what energies they trash around with. But enjoy arguing if that is your desire. See how it breaks everything. First it broke fringe and now your computer. I don't think you understand what will break next if this keeps up. Also the Arena anchored. Unsure who made it, but he should remake it. Seems like the Arena has better discussions than this thread in some cases.

Does fringe go to sleep because it needs to heal?

>>19641 Rest is good.