>>5882 Have to say, that was quite a good read. I think I read an earlier version of this, and it's been significantly improved. I have my disagreements here and there, especially about Christianity and Mars, but nothing major. Overall I was quite impressed by the knowledge and eloquence on display here. I wonder if there's a way I could submit edits to it? >>5881 >You'd be better off trading in luxuries and vices. People will miss them once they're gone. are you saying I should stockpile porn? kek >>5893 pretty much. I expect the Taiwan situation to heat up during/after the Fall of Ukraine, and that the hubris of our GAE masters will lead them to folly and defeat at the hands of BRICS, as it should be. I've been learning Japanese, and fantasizing about building a Little America over there with the weebs. I wonder if that's viable, because honestly, I can't see myself building a life & future here in the US.

>>5894 >de-dollarization Who will be partaking in that, anon? Is that part of the reason why silver has gone up a fair bit? Silver is currently around $24 an ounce while gold has gone back up a little bit above $2,000 an ounce.

>>5895 >I wonder if there's a way I could submit edits to it? The author's made multiple requests for anons to add or submit info over the years, and it says in the book itself you can add any extra info you have as an appendix to the main body. >are you saying I should stockpile porn? kek Not necessarily. Luxuries in this case would be things like food that isn't native to your area or is otherwise hard to produce, like asparagus, bananas, chocolate, and coffee; medicine for rare conditions, assuming societal collapse doesn't kill those people off; or whatever usable electronics remain. Vices would be things like booze, tobacco, hard drugs, or anything that you could use to have a good time or drown your woes. Porn could work as a tradable vice if there's a functioning power system or if you've got it in print, but I think it would be more likely for the average male to go for whores, or for him to marry. Porn would only be useful if said male was going to go for long periods away from women.

>>5897 When times are tough, porn is unnecessary because women want a stable income-provider. How they acquire that income is up for interpretation and usually proportional to how many dicks they've already taken up to that point.

>>5894 >>5896 Please explain what de-dollarization is.

>>5899 I only found out what it is recently but basically it's when countries stop relying on the US dollar. What is currently happening with BRICS is an example of that. I don't know if they ever sorted that out but I've heard a lot of critics that BRICS is doomed to fail because both China and India are a part of it and they don't really agree with each other. One way that you, anon, could attempt De-dollarzation is tying your currency to gold and silver or actually making your currency gold and silver. Anon, what is your ideal currency?

>>5900 >ideal currency A currency with a strict circulation limit that cannot be constitutionally exceeded. This currency would be "issued" only in the form of salaries to government employees and a one-time gibs handout at the founding of the country, there is no interest or any other gay kike niggatry whatsoever as the national bank only ever tries to maintain a set number of currency units in circulation. Excess Taxes if they do happen would be simply be removed, and the government would have to sustain itself on the GNU/market where large-scale distribution of closed-source semiconducting or other high-tech hardware that can't be manufactured with preindustrial methods is punishable by death squad, closed-source software is permitted but free of any penalties for hackers, crackers and repackers due to the abolishment of copyright and patent laws as a core tenet of the constitution. The national bank does have the option to inflate/deflate the national currency along with subsidy handouts in (((exceptional))) circumstances, but it would be unable to print more shekels than the constitutional limit would allow, national debt in terms of national currency would also be unable to exceed this limit. Forex would be completely illegal with all transactions involving foreign currency in any form on national soil being legally null, however national and international barter trade involving Gold, Silver, Shitcoins, MtG cards, LNG etc. would be legal for all citizens and the government, though the object being bartered has to physically exist or mathematically proven to "exist" in the case of shitcoins in order for any transaction to be considered valid this is also the only way for the government to "exceed" the limit of the national currency. Exchanging the national currency for a foreign currency or something else on foreign soil isn't illegal, but also wholly outside the scope or reach of the national government so you can do it but don't have any way to sue a bugman scammer in Nanking for grabbing your precious Reichsshekel in exchange for bootleg Turbine blades made of corroded steel painted to look like Tungsten.

Tomorrow. If you disagree you are a fucking retard and a clown.

>>5902 >tomorrow Will that affect my flight next week?

>>5902 What exactly is supposed to happen tomorrow (today) again? I saw something about the 8th circuit passing a ruling that private individuals are not allowed to sue governments, but nothing else in the news seems noteworthy.

>>5901 I really like where this post is going. Perhaps we could get whoever becomes the successor to Stallman to be our glorious leader? Has Stallman ever announced who that may be and/or is there someone that the community recognizes just yet?

>>5866 >close to You misspelled "past".

>>5896 >Who will be partaking in that, anon? Everyone who thinks they can get away with it? >>5901 And now count how many times over it’s impossible. Or (more to the point) how much of the circus needs to be bulldozed for this to happen.

>>5907 >Or (more to the point) how much of the circus needs to be bulldozed for this to happen. So they can build a bigger circus? Did you read the post you're replying to? >>5901 >forced fixed license and extremely strict tech/media laws >the abolishment of copyright and patent laws as a core tenet of the constitution you've got to pick one nigger

>>5866 America won't collapse anytime soon. Its power will diminish for a historically short period due to a series of successive failures (Korea, Vietnam, the Gas Crisis, 9/11, the Great Recession) that diminish the stability it gained from huge successes (the Spanish-American War, the World Wars, the Cold War). Ultimately, it will fall into authoritarianism under the guise of maintaining the nation (think Caesar's Rome, Cromwell's England, Napoleon's France, Hitler's Germany, Mao's China) and have a period of extended success that eats away the culture of the previous period which will be framed as decadent but rooted in something which may be reinterpreted to fit the current ideal and thus labeled as preservation or the removal of foreign elements. This isn't to say the periods immediately before this will not have been decadent, but even the middling parts will be seen as excessively indulgent at a societal level. After a reorganization and perhaps a civil war or period of extended and exceedingly violent civil unrest, this reemergence as an authoritarian state as a necessary evil will finalize. Now realize, this won't be quick. It's unlikely to occur in our lifetimes. In fact, it's more likely this will be seen toward the end of this century or the beginning of the next than it is to happen in the middle of this century. This isn't to say that you don't need to prepare for hardship. Collapse of a world order is a long and painful process even for periphery states. You simply won't see its conclusion.

>>5909 Those decades/centuries-long declines are due to shortfalls in communications. While current mass communications will decline substantially, they won't disappear given their usefulness to world trade. Those same mass communications and ability to circle the globe in a day at a budget for a world leader means that things happen really, really quickly. The same thing that becomes mass-known in America today in minutes/hours of happening would have taken days during the telephone era and weeks during the telegraph era.

>>5866 Spring 2024? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDyQxtg0V2w

I ran into excerpts from a curious book. The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe. https://web.archive.org/web/20110817125149/grerp.blogspot.com/2010/12/thoughts-on-fourth-turning-part-1.html For circumstantial evidence, see Kipling — One View of the Question and Mother Hive. It’s like Ethnogenesis and the Biosphere meets The Dosadi Experiment. In that distinct, short and aggressive spawning cycle that creates basically a subethnos every few decades is anomalous and suggests a persistent anomalous cause. Which is, most likely, ever-molting Puritanism. Also, any cycle with ever-increasing amplitude can be expected to eventually run into a border condition. And when if not in already catastrophic phase?

>>5866 Unlikely. It'll take a hit over the next few years while Putin's No.1 Dicksucker is in office actively making the worst political maneuvers to try and gain some personal profit from it. But reality is that of the current and predicted global economic and militant superpowers, America is still by far the most stable and most popular, being generally made up of friendly, polite people (the ones that aren't don't leave their states), and being focused on individual freedoms and liberties over state power (in principle). Your alternatives being >China. Soviets Mk II, with fake weapons tech, big flashy displays of 'china stronk' and being almost universally hated for generally valid reasons because china doesn't care about you if it doesn't need to. The only reasons it's beginning to look at being eco-friendly with pollution is so it can brag, and because it's economically unfavorable these days not to. >EU By definition headless and indecisive. Lots of good shit sure, but it's a bunch of smaller countries at the end of the day pooling their resources. Individually almost all their shit is better than US shit, save for big shit or expensive rare shit, but it's all from different nationalities, with different particulars, ten times as many chiefs per indian, and as many conflicting plans of action. Compared to this, the US is almost entirely capable of self-sufficiency (even though that's terrible for economic prosperity and being the reigning superpower), and is actually pretty well liked.

>>5875 Just noticed this post is from 2023. Are you winning, anon?

>>13808 >>13835 Lol, what the fuck is wrong with you? Stop necrobumping these threads, most of the people who made them probably didn't even come to 8moe. You're being exactly as pathetic as boomers who scream at cable news pundits who can't hear them and wouldn't care even if they could. Grow up and find something to do other than seethe about Russians all day.

>>13858 You assume the troon is intelligent enough to understand. You assume too much.

>>13875 I ain't assuming shit, I'm hoping he'll do something funny is all.

>>13858 It is interesting to revisit what people were talking about here, back then. I read that post he replied to and on its face it seems quite reasonable. Yet it was completely wrong. I wonder what the reasoning would be today. I personally think that the U.S is constantly overestimated in some aspects and underestimated in others, for sure..

>>5866 It's a good idea to have several months of food and fresh water, if you have money to spare also get some gold. >>5871 Useless during it, extremely valuable after it.

>>13958 >It is interesting to revisit what people were talking about here, back then. Yeah, I have been enjoying lurking through the old threads, I even bumped the do/k/uments one so other people would see it. There is a difference though between wandering around the ruins or even moving into them, and digging up the corpses and yelling at them about Russians. Just lurk folks, there is much to be found. >>13962 What the hell are you replying to that post for? Do you think they'll see it?

>>13963 >What the hell are you replying to that post for? Why not necro interesting threads and posts to increase discussion?

>>13966 I'm not against that, but it feels really weird to reply to posts like you're answering their question or responding to what they said. They aren't going to see it. I am pretty sure this thread was an anon.cafe thread, and from what I've gathered a lot of them were pretty against moving to 8moe >>>/shelter/2787 so it's not like you're just necroing a years old post, you're necroing a thread wasn't even from here. If you weren't aware of that, I suggest lurking moar. btw the thread about south american militaries is a good read, really old /k/ vibes there. There are a few others I intend to read, but there's gold in that there catalog.

>>13858 I didn’t say anything about russians. If that’s how you interpreted it then that was a mistake.

>>13999 You went into other threads to seeth about Russians. Here you just seethed about Russians by proxy by comparing them to other people you don't like. You're a nutter.

>>14040 No I didn't you fucking retard. My post and the post I replied to have nothing to do with russia even tangentially. You replied to two different people you dumb nigger.

>>14062 Oh, if you're the second post I replied to then sorry, I don't think I even meant to click on that one to reply to it, sometimes when I refresh a page because the site is experiencing issues and then click reply so I can post my reply, it randomly links the most recent post in the thread and adds it seemingly randomly into my post somewhere.

>>14066 >sometimes when I refresh a page because the site is experiencing issues and then click reply so I can post my reply, it randomly links the most recent post in the thread and adds it seemingly randomly into my post somewhere. Oh yeah it does that for me too. You did raise a good point though, I didn't know how to sage here because I didn't notice the box yet.

>>5900 My ideal currency is 11 motherfucking carrier strike groups. Because the world is so out of balance that nothing can ever stop the US from saying "This is the value of a dollar" and making it work.

>prepper thread ages like milk A tale as old as time.

>>14399 yeah about that...