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PC Hardware & News Thread: SSD Edition Anonymous 12/01/2024 (Sun) 00:02:45 Id: dcafb7 No. 1045288
>Discuss PC Hardware & News >Share Specs & Pics Current News >Ryzen 9000 X3D series out late Jan 2025 >RTX 5000 due early Q1 2025 >Intel's new CPUs suck ass and Intel is pozzed by DEI Last thread >>977640
>>1047349 arch isn't even that hard
>>1051226 neither is gentoo
>>1051231 let's be serious for a second anon
>>1051226 i use it btw... easy for me (my brains kinda big)
>>1051232 No really my retard-ass was able to do it, it was easier than arch until the kernel parameters, and that's human-readable.
>>1047533 Depends on the game. Some actually run better than Windows (slight better, but better) due to shader precomp and Windows being super bloated. >FF16 on NVidia runs terribly on Linux I think it's more a Nvidia driver problem. Hoping they open source more driver stuff so I can get a GPU capable of generating naked cartoon girls next time I upgrade GPU.
I suffered from gaming addiction no therapist could cure, then I installed Linux. Half the games broke, the rest were too much work. Thank you Torvalds, you cured my gaming addiction! But I'm no longer productive, since that takes too long on Linux. Well, more time to post about how everything bad on Linux is good!
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This thread's all off topic, OS isn't PC hardware or PC hardware news. Let's all change that, first gay to mention OS is a Super Faggot. OKI Circuit Technology has announced a new printed circuit board (PCB) design that can boost component heat dissipation by up to 55x, where a PCB is packed with stepped circular or rectangular copper coins. Where OKI says coins, it is describing a copper structure that is rather like a rivet. Also, where it says stepped, it means that one end of the coin, or rivet, is a different size from the other. It gives the example of a stepped coin with a diameter of 7mm at the bonding surface with an electronic component, and 10mm at the heat-dissipating surface. "The newly developed stepped copper coin features a larger heat-dissipating area relative to the bonding surface with the heat-generating electronic component to improve heat conduction efficiency," OKI explains. Then it goes on to say how its new rectangular coins are great for wicking the heat from traditionally rectangular heat-generating electronic components. Component makers like Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI often boast about their lavish use of copper in motherboards and other components. Perhaps OKI's new stepped copper coins would be beneficial, too. These coins can extend through the PCB to conduct heat to large metal casings, suggests OKI. They could potentially connect to backplates and other cooling apparatus.
>>1051283 This is interesting, although heat dissipation is rarely brought up these days because chips are getting more efficient by the minute. This will push it to new levels if developed properly
>>1051375 Heat dissipation's important for consumers since dissipated heat lets consumers overclock more and run shit faster.
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>>1051283 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyai_kUYhLs Here another on similar vein, a new kind of solid state cooling that pushes air by ionizing air and pushing them towards oppositely charged grills to generate a small air current. Its called Ionic Cooling Engine (ICE) by ventiva. The good news is unlike other solid state cooling, its already put into a laptop and will be showcased next month CES. Don't know which company. This is much better than the piezo-electric vibrating fan technology that also has solid state cooling because it actually displaces a moderate amount of air at low watts. And is actually solid, zero moving or vibrating parts
>>1051379 I thought it was neat, until you realize it's an ion engine, converting oxygen into ozone, and that their solution to all the ozone is a catalytic converter. Also, the static pressure is so limp-dicked, you'd need to thin out and lengthen the fin stack instead of compressing it to get equivalent cooling, eating up the saved space.
>>1051455 The catalyst can also make nitrous oxide during the rebonding since the air isnt pure oxygen.
I surprised nobody posted here. Where are all the /g/men? Intel B580 beats 4060 and 7600 at $250, is the best entry level GPU now And is immediately out of stock. Steve declared it the only value wise choice in midrange 1080p and 1440p. It fixed nearly all driver related issues of previous intel arc gpus and even catches upto 4060 in ray-tracing. Intel finally did something good this year
I've seen people endlessly whining about how the 5000 series still has "only" 8GB VRAM, but honestly that's good for the industry. Anyone else old enough to remember when people actually had to know how to code to write good software? When hardware restrictions explicitly required people to be intelligent and write tight, simple, clean, fast code because computers physically couldn't handle sloppy streetshitter spaghetti. I support the 5000, 6000, and 7000 series of GPUs remaining at 8GB (and only improving on TDP, etc.) to force the entire video game industry to write games that aren't absolute fucking shit.
>>1053121 >shittier "entry" level hardware will improve how games are coded Nope. Saw this already with Starfield. Only non-AAA, which are not the games you are talking about, will ever have decent performance these days. Why? AAA Game companies are provided top-of-the-line gaming rigs and the marketers are told these are 'average.' Performance issues would only matter when the company in question has been slapped hard and often enough to actually care about the slop they produce. And the only reason why indies will have decent performance is because they already and usually always have cared. This doesn't change that. It never did. Nvidia can provide 4 more gigs of VRAM. They just don't want to. And that is inexcusable.
>>1053121 >I support the 5000, 6000, and 7000 series of GPUs remaining at 8GB (and only improving on TDP, etc.) to up-sell consumers to buy higher-end cards at twice the cost in order to play games at a decent level of performance
>>1053121 Guess you're playing on medium textures then, bud.
>>1053091 If it beats the 5060 then it will turn heads. Beating a 1.5 year old card looks less impressive.
>>1053147 It's more people can get a decent GPU without breaking the bank.
>>1053091 >Steve declared it the only value wise choice in midrange 1080p and 1440p. Thanks Steve.
>>1053127 >only AAA Yes, so fuck them. They're all propagandists funded by BlackRock/Vanguard/governments/etc. in the first place. The rest of the industry will benefit from having hardware restrictions again, rather than being told "OY VEY YOU CAN'T RUN THE GAME ON YOUR MONTH OLD HARDWARE? JUST UPGRADE IMMEDIATELY AGAIN, GOYIM!" >>1053133 You're bad at this. >>1053138 I have a GTX 980. Medium is a pipe dream for most "modern" games. I just don't care.
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>>1053164 >has gtx 980 >10 year old hardware <doesn't want hardware to improve Anon, it's time to save money for an upgrade.
>>1053168 It's GC tard.
>>1053121 >GPUs should have more Vram in order to force developers to be competent. Not going to happen. Not when all of the hardware is standardized x86, not when all the game engines are standardizing to UE dogshit, not when there is an entire industry of diploma mill retards getting hired on to outsourcing studios so that they can be shuffled around AAA seamlessly in order to get a game out in under half a decade. Constraints do breed innovation and allow talent to shine all the brighter - but there are no more constraints in today's market. The largest bottleneck to game development now is scale. That's not something you can fix by having jewvidia scam customers out of 16GB Vram on their $2000 cards.
>>1053168 >doesn't want Try again. I want hardware to improve. It's just that software has to improve first, otherwise there aren't any actual improvements. >>1053169 Congrats on being wrong, dipshit. He's a retard. >>1053200 >The largest bottleneck to game development now is scale. Animal Well got to the kosher game awards with a single developer. I'm not sure administrative scale problems are even a requirement for developing a popular game. And that card game, Balatro, is apparently also only made by one person.
>>1053200 >The largest bottleneck to game development now is scale. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop; what the fuck is the point in paying some thirdie who doesn't know shit about vidya design to make hideously bloated rock textures when shit like that was literally what generative AI was designed to do? There has to be someone making tools like this so a dev can say "make me a dark granite texture at [insert resolution] or " make me a crater with a field of boulders" and have it happen. Being able to automate a significant chunk of that grunt work as opposed to offshoring it would make life so much easier and cheaper and the proc-gen potential is huge. You could have a game like daggerfall but have the cities be actually worth visiting by randomly adding elements like an ethnic ghetto or the town rioting because the latest beer shipment was hijacked by orcs and is being held for ransom or showing up on a local holiday and having services not be available. I'm actually a bit optimistic on this subject because despite the whining and crying of devs about "muh jobs" and "muh industry crisis" the people holding the pursestrings care about the money and when their attention falls on some indie game with a budget of approximately tree fiddy US made with AI that has more scope in its open world than most AAA games they're going to say "why the fuck are we paying hundreds of millions of dollars to marginally competent contractors when we could be doing this ourselves" and there will be a cull. Hopefully this is already happening.
>>1053221 >make hideously bloated rock textures And this shit started quite a while ago. Metal Gear Rising is ~25 gigabytes, but ~21 of that is uncompressed, prerendered cutscenes. The fucking game itself is NOTHING compared to that.
>>1053164 Nigger I have a 960 and could play helldivers 2 just fine.
>>1053228 >helldivers 2 I loved that game and it hurts how dirty Sony did it.
>>1053121 >>1053127 Yeah I don't really visit /v/ that often whether here or on botnetchan much because people here mostly jerk off over the latest shitware that requires a RTX 5090 to run smoothly on 1080p with DLSS and 200GB of available storage. >>1053221 >Being able to automate a significant chunk of that grunt work as opposed to offshoring it would make life so much easier and cheaper and the proc-gen potential is huge. You could have a game like daggerfall but have the cities be actually worth visiting by randomly adding elements like an ethnic ghetto or the town rioting because the latest beer shipment was hijacked by orcs and is being held for ransom or showing up on a local holiday and having services not be available. You can make a Daggerfall Unity mod right now to do exactly what you're describing. So why aren't you? Why are you instead just pontificating on /v/ right now if you're implying it's so easy? For me it would be demoralizing to try to use AI generated content and put it together. If you're an artist, director, designer or whatever else, you need to feel motivated to do your work. If you're not motivated, you'll either produce nothing (because you're doing it for free or for yourself) or you'll produce garbage (i.e. you're only doing it because you're getting paid to by an employer, which isn't a strong motivation for artists). Creative work requires a different mindset from algorithmic/programming work. Trying to figure out whether your plot feels interesting, which ChatGPT is not capable of determining despite what techbros and investors claim, is not the same as designing and implementing a physics engine.
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>>1053245 > because people here mostly jerk off over the latest shitware that requires a RTX 5090 to run smoothly on 1080p with DLSS and 200GB of available storage. <On a board that shits on most new games and in a hardware thread where everyone has been relentlessly shitting on Nvidia
>>1053228 Oh, sure. There are plenty of games still being release that I can run. A growing number can't be. I'm fine with that (mostly) because a lot of them are commie propaganda. Some are cool that my system just can't handle. I'll upgrade when I upgrade. Might be another decade, honestly. Plenty of games I enjoy that I can still play.
>>1053245 >You can make a Daggerfall Unity mod right now to do exactly what you're describing. >So why aren't you? Why are you instead just pontificating on /v/ right now if you're implying it's so easy? I'm not implying that it's easy, I'm wondering why someone hasn't already built tools to these ends when this kind of thing is literally one of the primary use cases for generative AI and "this game has infinite [insert feature]s" still somehow manages to get the interest of people. >Creative work requires a different mindset from algorithmic/programming work. Yeah, I know. I haven't don't much game dev but I have a lot of experience with OSR tabletop games and those require both. >Trying to figure out whether your plot feels interesting, which ChatGPT is not capable of determining despite what techbros and investors claim, is not the same as designing and implementing a physics engine. Of course. My point is that in modern gaems there is a gargantuan amount of relatively low-skilled VFX labor (of the "it just needs to be good enough" flavor) that is already being farmed out. I'm not saying "AI should be writing games and designing characters" I'm saying "why the fuck would anyone pay hundreds of thirdies to make barely-adequate photorealistic background clutter when you could license an AI and do that for a fraction of the cost even with extensive retouching and editing". What I'm describing is more like an ecumenical flavor of Speedtree than ChatGPT; if you think that making rocks or texturing sidewalks or clutter in a dungeon is drudge work and you'd rather be doing something else then being able to press a button and get all of the "good enough" results you want means that you can spend more time and effort and money on things like writing.
>>1045665 Wait, WHITES post here?!
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>>1053338 White Power


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