>>1832845 Core 2 quads and equivalent Xeon are in that weird spot where they're way too much to be considered retro (you can pretty much still daily one) but too old to do many things you might consider good to have or any serious gaming (especially now that games without support for those at all are coming out on aregular basis) You could try to find a cheap 980/980ti, that's the best you can use for an XP build and that's also the best non UEFI GPU iirc and that would make it the ultimate XP gaming PC (minus every game that flips out from more than 1 core, though you can boot.ini that at worst) For anything more modern you really want one of those very late mobo with DDR3 and PCIe2.0, you'd also want something that can OC, and I don't think LGA771 mobos can, there is a world of difference between a 2.93Ghz CPU and a 4.2-4.4 one (unless you're supremely lucky and that build came with the highest clocked stuff which should be 3.6Ghz). Populating both sockets would be pretty idiotic, sure Skulltrail was cool but it's aged like fucking shit and gets beaten by fairly cheap modern build now. Since you mentioned it, going X99 is mostly something you should do for the funny not for serious stuff unless you have a real workstation usecase, best chip you can get for gaming related stuff are 1660v3 and 6850k, with a bit of overclocking magic and a 1080ti it's still competent enough for modern stuff You could go X299, it's finnicky as fuck but an 8 core chip and some decent RAM will get you good performance in almost everything, though same as X99 if you don't need those extra PCIe lanes you don't really want that, but it's not much pricier than X99 and can actually be far faster (a 7820X can hit 5Ghz, you're gonna be lucky if your 5960X / 6850k / 1660v3 hits above 4.5Ghz) AM4 you should forget, no point when AM5 exists For AM5 going off a 7500f + whatever cheap but decent B650 mobo and a 2x16Gb 6000C30 kit is a good starting point if you're after cheapo but good

>>1833342 Meh, was never too keen on 7th gen games. Will take in mind about Server 2003, though I could potentially try speccing it more older games. Good for Mechwarrior 4 or ValuSoft type games that get quirky with anything that's not a Pentium 3 and Geforce 256, no? >>1833768 X299 has been in consideration, though I am iffy on the socket/chipset being limited around the 65W range. >AM4 you should forget, no point when AM5 exists Is the IPC increase that noticeable from Zen 1-3 to 5+? Still considered that first generation because getting would would performance wise be Haswell but with more cores than LGA1150 ever had would be great. As for AM5, the Epyc 4124P is actually a faster 4c8t chip than the Raptor Lake i3 (boosts surprisingly high for a 'server part' too), plus it has ECC support that should allegedly be better than AM4's murkiness. And how's the A620/that lower tier chipset? If it just makes overclocking not available, than I'm fine with that tradeoff.

>>1835252 >Is the IPC increase that noticeable from Zen 1-3 to 5+? Yeah, Zen3 X3D parts can't compete with regular Zen4 for the most part >Still considered that first generation because getting would would performance wise be Haswell but with more cores than LGA1150 ever had would be great. Closer to Sandy bridge in reality, Haswell you just need to not run with potato RAM and it completely destroys Zen1 in IPC >And how's the A620/that lower tier chipset? The chipset does restrict overclocking but it also comes with the big issue that the mobos are all very sketchy in terms of quality and compared to some entry level B650 board the tradeoff in quality isn't worth the handful of bucks you're gonna be saving (ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 is probably the best choice for entry level)

Are there any good, extensive guides on building and managing (and securing) a game server from scratch? I see too many builds on desktop gaming but hardly DIY server builds (aside from media/enterprise uses).

>>1843570 Because server use cases are much more varied in terms of hardware. It depends on if you need redundancy, how critical the service is, how much you need it to scale, etc. Any random older game probably runs on a complete potato perfectly fine, and your main concern is understanding the network security side of things. Which is rather complicated from everything I researched since it seems like everyone on the planet has 4378 different opinions and perspectives on the best approach to exposing services to the internet.

>>1843570 It's more of a checklist than a guide, just start from the basic to the complicated, in an inside out manner. Choose Hardware Configure Firmware Install and Configure OS Install and Configure Server Software Configure Network Interface For hardware you want something stable. Redundancy is good but you can cheap out at the start, especially when you're learning. Some servers have redundant power supplies, hard drives, error correcting ram. You can buy a battery backup if you want but none of it is absolutely necessary for a game server because you won't need 100% uptime, but each helps. You can use any computer as long as it has powerful enough hardware to perform the function you need. Firmware is important for rebooting the computer automatically from power-loss, or to automatically start/reboot the computer on a schedule in case of a crash or something. Decent firmware options make for fewer headaches. OS is a case of selection for what you want. You can use anything that will just automatically start the server you want as a service/process, and then have a maintenance process that makes sure the server is running, hasn't crashed, and can restart the server process if necessary. Software in terms of what services you want to be running, important for remote administration considerations too. Some server software runs better on windows, other is better on *nix. There are a lot of different factors for this. Either read up on others' experiences or try it all out yourself. Network interface is about your choice, whether you want wireless or wired, what speeds, etc. A wired connection is preferable. You always want to over-provide for bandwidth. Go at least 20% over what you think would be comfortable. Double it if you can. Once you have that sorted, then it's a matter of configuring the computer's firewall then your home gateway firewall/DHCP server for port forwarding. The typical setup for a home server looks a bit like this: Home server (software firewall) <-> Gateway (firewall and port forwarding to home server) <-> Internet You can configure your gateway firewall and port forwarding options for more security (like disabling all unnecessary ports for your home server), and then work on securing the server itself. If the ports are blocked in both places, the data won't go through, then you can focus on securing the ports that are open. Generally that works by recognizing hostile IPs and banning them. fail2ban is an example service/daemon for that function but there are lots of options. Generally you want a game server to be completely independent from all your other hardware since there can be quite a few vulnerabilities within the server software. There were a lot of unpatched remote code execution exploits in source engine games, for example. Some people do this by packing the server into a virtual machine, but nothing beats true hardware isolation. Managing the server itself then falls into either working on it in Remote Console within the server software, or you Secure Shell into the server OS to change server launch configurations and manually restart the server. IT midwits try to make all of this seem way more complicated than it is so they can justify their salaries, and the super intelligent nerdy guys find it too simple to bother explaining. Combine that with search engines sucking jew dick and it's not easy to find a concise and simple guide.

Does anyone know anything about the hardware differences between a traditional VPN and what VP.net does? The latter claims trustless security and untouchable encryption stored in Intel SGX secure enclaves. But I recently read a study showing that physical access to those computers can still reveal the contents of the SGX by manipulating the RAM.

>>1847196 > The latter claims trustless security and untouchable encryption stored in Intel SGX secure enclaves. But I recently read a study showing that physical access to those computers can still reveal the contents of the SGX by manipulating the RAM. Well you have you own answer right here, if you don't trust SGX because it has a vuln when the attacker has physical access there's literally no reason to trust anything since pretty much any current hardware is vulnerable to someone with physical access, otherwise it means it's more secure when the attacker doesn't have physical access, but then again remote attacks on most modern hardware are reserved to state level actors provided the victim has a decent level of OPSEC. So pretty much means fuckall one way or another, SGX is deprecated anyway. As always with OPSEC you only need as much security as what will be enough to deter who is likely to come after you, and a VPN (regardless of which) ain't enough for the kind of people who would do physical access stuff. The only thing you really want from a VPN provider is storageless, means they can't really log long term means you're covered for the regular stuff like piracy and funposting, anything above that I wouldn't do to begin with but I wouldn't do with just a VPN if I did do that kind of stuff.

Zen 7 rumours sound impressive.

Heya, the /t/echnology board sent me here. I'm a bit hurt for cash but need a new PC. This one should be just under $500. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfMWNz How's it look?

>>1952170 Decent specs, but you forgot the GPU!

>>1952213 I know, that's what makes it a sub 500. I plan on reusing my GeForce 2060.

>>1952170 I have concerns over the case, is your 2060 going to fit into that?

>>1952170 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3drFzP I swapped out the ram for something a bit faster and $20 cheaper and the PSU to something a bit more reputatable with a higher efficiency rating. Overall a tiny bit cheaper but I think your base was overall pretty solid.

>>1952224 Ah! A nice card, I kind of regret buying an RTX 4070 Super over it as I barely play any modern shit that uses it. You got a nice mid/low spec, did you check the TDP of all the components? I somehow feel like 600 Watts won't be enough! If you can afford it, I'd also recommend you up the Ryzen 5500 to a 5600 just so you can run most games without framedrops.

>>1952256 A grand most of the games I play are from around 2010-2017, I do not believe a new CPU is necessary, especially given they're nothing special or intensive. The most intensive thing in there will probably be Doom Eternal. As for power, what would you suggest? I'm also thinking of swapping out that tower for a full sized one, just to keep better airflow.

>>1952277 A 600 Watt Bronze one just to be sure there's no issues if you play something too intensive. https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator

>>1952339 Oooh. Thank you!

Since I am a bit strapped for cash, would it be alright to purchase the parts incrementally?

>>1952722 Only problem with incremental parts could be if you miss a warranty window and don't know you have a defective/DOA part. But it can be worth the "risk" if there's a short term sale or something.

>>1953737 I see. I'll buy them around black Friday/cyber Monday, that sort.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3r6TM My PC is a potato, so i was thinking of finally upgrading it come next month because this year i managed to save up a cool 2.5k, not a lot to a 'murrican, but definitely a small fortune for a turd worlder like me. I wasn't going to move onto AM5 because MOBOs are overpriced in my country, so my plan was grabbing a 5800X3D + 9070 XT + 64gb ram kit + latest scythe air cooler + some 850W gold psu, but EVERYTHING just spiked massively in price i heard some jew just bought up all the ram to build his empire with indian men saars producing AI slop 24/7, and now prices won't return to normal ever unless the AI bubble bursts, so i'll be paying 500 dollars just for the fucking ram. I'm now unironically just going to look in f*cebook marketplace for another two 8GB sticks, because i'm not giving my hard earned shekels to a greedy hebrew that suddenly decided a $650 gpu should now cost 1.5k

>>1960316 >5800X3D + 9070 XT + 64gb ram kit + latest scythe air cooler + some 850W gold psu >5800X3D Unless that CPU is 150 bucks or lower this is a waste of fucking money, especially now that DDR4 is pricier than DDR5 in some cases, a 7700 which is often under 150 will beat it for the most part. >AM5 mobo are overpriced skill issue, aliexpress.com/item/1005009870012522.html aliexpress.com/item/1005008886512415.html aliexpress.com/item/1005007681496826.html Yes they're good despite being chinkshit, yes the ones with the anime on it are worth the extra money, yes the BIOS is in english, no having 2 RAM slots isn't an issue 4 DIMM on DDR5 is just endless pain and I seriously doubt you'd need more than 128GB anyways. Unless you live in a shitty country that taxes Aliexpress imports out the ass, but even then it's probably dodgeable to a degree

>>1960720 You forget >yes the firmware has a dedicated CCP backdoor

>>1961319 >implying any modern hardware doesn't come backdoored by default

>>1961335 Having your hardware compromised by the west is significantly less dangerous than having your hardware compromised by chinks.

>>1961563 >Having your hardware compromised by the west is significantly less dangerous than having your hardware compromised by chinks. lolno >implying you have anything worthwhile to compromise >implying it's not already compromised by everyone anyways

>>1961663 "No" is not an argument <actually everything everywhere is already compromised dude lmao there's no reason to ever care about privacy or security Oh you're totally fucking retarded nice I can filter you.

>>1961673 >"No" is not an argument An unsubstantiated claim doesn't need arguments to refute. ><actually everything everywhere is already compromised dude lmao there's no reason to ever care about privacy or security If you're at the level where you have to care that government level threats can access your data then yes everything might as well be compromised, doesn't mean you can't care about your security or privacy regarding lower level threats, but thinking you can be safe from any governemnt if you use mainstream tech is fucking retarded.

>>1961696 You don't understand how security works if you think "government level threats" are a universal standard. Caring about government level threats from your own government is for many people futile. When it comes to adversely governments the risk is exponential. There are entire classes of malware that specifically only trigger when they confirm to be operating on American networks. It's not about being safe from "governments", it's about having a basic understanding of threats in any given context. It's clear that you're totally fucking ignorant on even the most fundamental level of opsec so I'm not sure why you're even talking about it. You can literally watch chink PoE camera's attempt to ping chinese servers in real time. This isn't some arcane theoretical attack vector that only works with physical access to a device under very specific conditions, this is shit that their government mandates they implement in every single homebrewed piece of hardware in their country you brain dead nigger. Rope yourself.

>>1961751 >Caring about government level threats from your own government Own governement? >When it comes to adversely governments the risk is exponential. Never mind the fact that thinking as an american that your governement isn't hostile to you is some serious retardation what made you think both aren't hostile to me? > it's about having a basic understanding of threats in any given context Funny considering you clearly lack that ability >this is shit that their government mandates they implement in every single homebrewed piece of hardware in their country you brain dead nigger. You mean like the US does and has always done. How's the taste of your own medicine btw?

>>1961788 >Never mind the fact that thinking as an american that your governement isn't hostile to you Not what I said or implied illiterate. >You mean like the US does and has always done. Completely irrelevant to the point being made illiterate. >How's the taste of your own medicine btw? Comical I guess, watching someone who is clearly ESL attempt to navigate an argument on an imageboard.

>>1961801 You sure do like to minimize or deflect the fact that the US spying is equally as bad as the chinese one anon; how does that boot taste?

>>1961816 Correct, US hardware level security threats are minimal. Every time a fed compromises a device they risk permanently burning that vulnerability. There are entire court cases where pedophiles with mountains of CP were let off free because the feds were fucking retarded and didn't realize they had to disclose how they acquired the evidence and didn't want to burn a zero day for one pedophile. China, on the other hand, has absolutely zero legal hurdles or recourse. They can simply do whatever they want and there are zero systems or structures in place for accountability. In America we have massive institutions designed entirely around scrutinizing every piece of hardware corporations spit out. The culture is radically different. Fuck off street shitting retard.

>>1961832 >only talks about within the US Talk about lack of reading comprehension. >bootlicking Keep at it anon, if your spread your cheeks wide enough you might even get a free hamburger

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