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PC Hardware & News Thread: Mobo Edition Anonymous 05/30/2025 (Fri) 15:48:57 Id: 1dc880 No. 1418497
>Discuss PC Hardware & News >Share Specs & Pics Current News >Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 SUPER Specifications Leak https://archive.ph/OJPKw Last thread >>1086108
>>1710506 GPU sad
Has anyone ever had to try to update directly from 1709 to 22H2? An in-place upgrade doesn't work, nor does using Windows Update (error 0xc1900101). I'm at a loss as to how to fix this shit. I've tried almost everything anyone has ever suggested.
>>1710849 You've tried an actual installation already I would guess? Maybe gradually upgrading from older version would work well enough, but that will require you finding the updates yourself .
>>1710849 You can futureproof your Windows installs. Step 7 in this Rentry: https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide There's also this guide, scroll to the partitioning section: https://pastebin.com/Zh7WSbJ2 It might actually be better to run a fresh install anyway.
>>1711034 You mean downloading various intermediate ISOs and trying to in-place upgrade to them first? I suppose that might work. DISM and SFC return 100% good. I've repeatedly deleted the cached downloads files and forced it to redownload. I've repeatedly relaunched (and restarted) the Windows Update service. I haven't tried to see if the motherboard needs a BIOS update yet (why the fuck does this matter). I have no idea how to see whether or not any "UWP apps" are installed, nor how to delete them. Zero of the attached device drivers are throwing errors.
>>1418497 I'm shopping for epyc 7003 supported SP3 mobos to upgrade my homelab and these boards are still ridiculously expensive. Just 1 more year right?
>>1711429 Yeah you're probably hosed for something like that, even "for parts" mobo are horrendously expensive (and they never come with easy fix anyways so it's almost always a waste of money)
>>1669094 depends on the model you want, for most GPU's that are under $750 it's cheaper to buy the next model up then it is get a card modded.The cost of getting the VRAM professionally replaced is around $450. It only makes sense for cards like the 5090 where the price gap to the next card up is so vast
>>1710849 Why not just do a fresh install?
>>1734123 Extremely good question. Thank you for asking. The answer is "A very specialized software install that, having tried a fresh on a separate hard drive to rebuild, doesn't fucking work anymore for reasons known only to God Himself." So we tried absolutely fucking everything else, and then I got the idea to download the ISO of every "major" release of Windows 10 from Archive.org and do an in-place upgrade using each one of them, in turn, climbing up the list from 1703 to 22H2. Didn't work. Or, rather, 1803 didn't work. Nor did 1809, 1903, or 1909. But installing 2004 on top of 1703 DID work, so he's on 2004 now. 20H2, however, does not work on top of 2004. Neither does 21H1, 21H2, or 22H2. And even though Windows Update does correctly show 22H2, does download it, and does TRY to install it, it just refuses to install (after an hour and a half of looking correct) and automatically says "we're reverting your updates" every time I try.
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>>1739219 >"A very specialized software install that, having tried a fresh on a separate hard drive to rebuild, doesn't fucking work anymore for reasons known only to God Himself." TBH, it sounds like you need to figure that out rather than trying to fuck with a windows install that is now very likely corrupted. I know that's not the answer you want to hear but it is the most realistic option. If I may ask, what "specialized software" is it? By the sound of things you are either missing a dependency or the software in question is tied to some key that is either hardware or OS specific.
>>1710506 looks like DP signal corruption. Happens when the data the OS feeds to the gpu gets corrupted. Don't forget, the GPU doesn't just manifest an image out of nowhere, the driver has to interpret the data feed given it on the OS layer. When the OS goes it can corrupt everything it touches
I have a new 7600X3D. It runs hot as fuck idling at 60c+, I changed the thermal paste and remounted it and it's still mostly the same so I chalked it up to being in a tiny SFF case with a tiny cooler. I thought it ultimately didn't matter because everywhere online says the CPU it designed to push itself to 95c so it doesn't really make a difference. The rub is that according to the KDE system monitor this thing never goes above 76c even when at 100% clearly thermal throttling and lagging my shit. If I let the default fan profile go it seems to mostly avoid thermal throttling but then it sounds like a jet engine. So either the KDE thermal information is incorrect, or missing something I'm unaware of, or there's some arcane motherboard setting that I don't know about that is causing the CPU to throttle at 76c instead of 95c. Or my shit is broken and I'm fucked. And I can't really find any information online pointing me in any direction.
>>1743580 Let the fan run loud anon, or get a new cooler with a larger fan for more heat dissipation. Small form factor cases have had issues with heat since forever, so there should be suitable alternative heatsink and fans - maybe a cool waterloop unit.
>>1743802 I think I figured it out. For whatever reason the "auto" TJMax on this motherboard was set to 75c. I set it to 89c and now it can get way hotter without throttling, which as far as I can tell is perfectly safe. >or get a new cooler with a larger fan for more heat dissipation I have essentially the biggest cooler I can fit in this case. The only other thing I could do is swap out the fan for a bigger slim one, which I tried as I had a spare lying around but it was too jank with zipties and I gave up. Either way as long as there's no issues with setting TJMax to 89 which is what AMD's official spec sheet says for this CPU then I can have it with basically silent fans while it idles at 60-70c.
Could I run a 7800x3d, 3090, 64gb ram, and 5 hard drives off a 850watt power supply? currently have a 6750xt but i want to swap it out so i can do AI gen.
>>1745302 Should be fine if it's an ATX V3.x PSU, otherwise I would avoid, though AI gen is a more constant load than gaming so in theory it still shouldn't be much of an issue. >>1743580 >>1743839 I'd be thinking something is seriously wrong if it idles at that high a temp (even bad examples of Zen4 I've not seen idle over 45°C usually) but if 100% load is fine temp wise, matches the performance target and doesn't throttle then I guess it's fine.
>>1745694 >I'd be thinking something is seriously wrong if it idles at that high a temp It's possible and I thought so as well but I think it's just a consequence of using an 8 liter case with basically zero case fan air flow and a tiny CPU cooler. I recall seeing some posts in small form factor forums mentioning getting similar-ish idle temperatures. The only other thing I can think to improve it is the cooler mounting pressure being off since I basically just hand tightened the screws then did one turn with a screw driver because the thermalright instructions are basically non-existent compared to noctua stuff. >but if 100% load is fine temp wise It's fine as long as I let the fans ramp. I'm going to try and experiment with undervolting and TJ max settings it to get it more under control. This is my first time with a modern CPU and my first time with a very small form factor case so I'm out of my element.
>>1746004 >I basically just hand tightened the screws then did one turn with a screw driver because the thermalright instructions are basically non-existent compared to noctua stuff. If it's the mounting system with a spring under the screw you can basically tighten a lot more than you would think because the spring is making sure you're not overtightening (my AiO with a similar mounting system is bottomed out on the screw since the spring gives more or less the same pressure level past some point), but yeah if the temps are good under load then it's "tight enough"
I don't know where else to ask, and i'll understand if this gets deleted, but a week ago i bought a pixel 3A XL (came out 6 years ago, but this was the last pixel with a 3.5 jack and a full screen ie no notch or camera cutout) to replace my dying note 3 pro, as replacing the screen and battery in it would cost significantly more (i got the new phone for $50). I rooted it right away and installed lineageOS 15 on it, i also flashed magisk because fuck paying for background play in jewtube, but every time i update the phone i lose root access. It's not that of a big deal since i could just not update it while at work and wait until i get home to reflash the boot image, but i wanted to know if there was a way to flash it permanently. This didn't happen with any of my old phones by the way (moto G, redmi note 3 pro), root access was permanent. I'm 90% sure magisk wasn't a thing back in 2013-2015 and i rooted it with something else, but i know for sure my note 3 pro has magisk.
>>1746255 No it's just nuts onto screws through a backplate, I don't think there's any indication of when you should stop screwing. But some videos I watched claimed there's only a small difference in temperatures based on mounting pressure >but yeah if the temps are good under load then it's "tight enough" Eh I thought it was okay but getting cinebench r23 to run in wine caused it to basically instantly thermal throttle at 75c and get like 40% less score in multicore than it should because of it even when I let the fans ramp to 100% at 74c. Hopefully undervolting and TJ max settings are the solution because I don't think there's much else to be done.
>>1746452 >No it's just nuts onto screws through a backplate, I don't think there's any indication of when you should stop screwing. Yeah better be safe, hand tight + 1 turn with a screwdriver is fine enough (I do the screwdriver with only two finger tight method personally), don't wanna be that guy that warps and kills his mobo because of a heatsink, especially with mobo now having a metric ton of SMD stuff near the socket.
>>1575970 Well I've gone and done it near 6 grand on the nu-rig, installing the 5090 tomorrow then off to AI ville
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>>1773818 Sorry for party rockin
>>1779467 How is the AI stuff?
>>1779467 anon why? you could have spend 1/6th on that and used the rest to help your family or something what the fuck man
>>1745302 I'm gonna go with a solid "maybe" but you should really not push your luck. If you can buy a x090 class card you can buy a 1000w PSU and call it a day, the peace of mind is worth that expense, do NOT skimp on anything that plugs your pricy PC components to the wall. Get a UPS too. >currently have a 6750xt but i want to swap it out so i can do AI gen. You can do AIslop with AMD through their cuda wine equivalent retardo.
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>>1779476 Just got Forge and ComfyUI up, it needs the very very latest pytorch shit so anyone else with a 5090: You're better off using standalone installers Forge Installer for 5090: https://www.patreon.com/posts/forge-ui-for-rtx-124265504 Comfy also Free:https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI/releases/download/latest/ComfyUI_cu128_50XX.7z ...than trying to get nightly builds to play nice or Stability Matrix. Forge is spitting out 8 pics in 12 seconds on an LCM checkpoint which is about 3 or 4 times as fast as a 3080, yet to do video, whole lot of set-up I'm still finding needs to be done. >>1779618 I could have spent nothing and scratched my balls for 5 years. instead I'm going to ramp up making my own entertainment and porn (oh lawds) and learn all kinds of crazy shit to make this stuff even loopier.
>>1783090 LCM one is an XL checkpoint so it's fast anyway but it's almost as soon as you take your finger from the mouse it's made the shot
Software needs to catch up to it, torchaudio on Comfy isn't currently flying and I can't currently train pic Loras on it
Anyone have success using Steam deck as their only pc? Sounds fun and I don't play new release games anyway
>>1795293 It's highly viable, I brought it with me on travel once instead of also bringing a laptop and it was pretty much did what i needed it to do.
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>5070ti Super 24gb looks like a good deal >drivers are shit 9070 XT it is. >16 Oh.
>>1800022 What do you need 24GB of VRAM for, anon? AI stuff?
>>1800022 >9070 XT it is. >>16 >Oh. If you are going for AMD and need that much vram for whatever goddamn AI reason you may be better off with a 7900xtx.
>>1807396 If you need AI you do not go for AMD in general, more complex to set up and far slower


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