>>1964171 >He didn't buy RAM before the bubble EL OH EL

>>1964171 Thankfully retro RAM has been completely untouched by this silliness, not that I really need anymore of it except maybe some good DDR1 for my socket 939 retro system.

Why not just use DDR4?

>>1964171 Looking up hardware news is turning into doomscrolling at this point.

well, was all the AI generated meme shit worth the cost?

>>1964247 DDR4 got hit almost as bad

>>1964267 It isn't even worth the electricity it runs on.

>>1964267 Memecoins and AI slop is literally all PC hardware and the internet gets used for anymore. Was it worth it?

>>1964267 Not even a bit. This AI shit isn't even content to just ruin prices for PC builders. The environment, and people's livelihood are getting fucked too in their pursuit of garbage AI shit that is nowhere near ready for most of the things they are already using it for.

>>1964267 Lewds of my obscure waifu from decades ago that only like 10 people in the world remember went up from about 5 images to infinity so I'd chalk that up as a win.

>>1964267 It's literally a power grab by the elites and it's going to drastically alter the economy to the point where 80% or 90% of the population will be poor and at the behest of wealthy kikes. The purposeful increase in housing prices (even adjusted for inflation), inflation, migrants who accept lower wages, automation, etc is all a ploy to irradicate the middle class and reduce the rest of the population to serfdom

>>1964349 >not dedicating your life to perfecting lewds of your waifu, enjoying every painstaking step of the artistic process as you bring your waifu to form >instead relying on the lootboxes of art and gambling over and over again until you get something you deem "least bad" to add to your collection You are weak, your bloodline is weak, and you will not survive the winter. Waifus everywhere weep, and may bit rot take form as an eldritch God without form to liberate these waifus from the minds of such pitiful men.

>>1964448 Can you imagine how many artists are just never gonna bother perfecting their skills now because AI is already pumping out perfect art of their old school, forgotten waifus? Sad shit

>>1964525 >AI <perfect art Lol

>>1964525 >AI >perfect art

>>1964267 If it brings us closer to robot servants and robot wives and robot daughters, I'm okay with that.

The upside to pc games being garbage/ death of AAA is that we don’t have to care about specs. I’m still on a 2080ti and feel NO desire to upgrade.

>>1964606 My 1660 super is repeatedly being stressed lately with anything relatively new. I had a good run with it though, especially for the cost. I'm praying for a decent black Friday sale before gpu prices go back into high orbit like everything else has/is going to.

>>1964525 Felt like there was more not bothering with getting better than passable at best, before AI, than there will be people nopeing out after AI. >>1964590 The only thing you'll get is something even more retarded than the Matrix and Skynet but in the form of the Crushinator from Futurama.

I still haven't updated my shit from 10 years ago and still don't care since new videogames have sucked ass for over 20 years. I would have updated if most ps3 games didn't suck ass.

>>1964267 I've been shitting on end user-focused AI for like a decade at this point. I'm certainly not scared of it but I can't see it balancing out to anything other than overwhelmingly negative. Machine learning has some applications that are positive and borderline revolutionary (medical imaging, materials science) and others that are more worrying (autonomous weapons, novel molecule discovery) but the toys and chatbots that make up almost 100% of what the average consoomer sees are just a social cancer plain and simple. >>1964590 Pic rel. >>1964606 >>1964626 When I built my PC a couple of years ago I """splurged""" on a 3060 TI that was on sale and it's been a trooper. Only games with absolute dogshit optimization have ever given it any trouble, notably the MH Wilds playtest, DD2 and the ~20 hours I put into a pirated copy of Starfield out of morbid curiosity.

>>1964709 >I've been shitting on end user-focused AI for like a decade at this point. I'm certainly not scared of it but I can't see it balancing out to anything other than overwhelmingly negative. Machine learning has some applications that are positive and borderline revolutionary (medical imaging, materials science) and others that are more worrying (autonomous weapons, novel molecule discovery) but the toys and chatbots that make up almost 100% of what the average consoomer sees are just a social cancer plain and simple. That's the joke though.

>>1964709 it doesn't have to be perfect or fast, just good enough and reliable.

When the bubble inevitable pops what companies do you think won't survive? god I hope nvidia crashes and burns.

>>1964735 Only thousands of literal who jeet startups will fail. Companies like nvidia just buy their way into government contracts so they become impossible to kill.

>>1964626 >>1964709 I'm looking to build my first serious PC, what graphics card should I get? My friend is pushing me to get the 5070ti but that sounds like overkill plus it's fucking expensive. I want something that will last a good amount of time before i have to upgrade it.

>>1964904 It all depends on what you want it for

>>1964904 3060 is doing perfectly well for me. Stuff like helldivers 2 runs great. The only problems I have with it I am 99%sure is because of linux and nvidia drivers not co-operating.

>>1964904 Get a 3080 Will play anything for an affordable price

>>1964904 >what graphics card should I get? What you can afford that performs at the level you want it to in the games that you play. Literally no one can answer "what GPU should I buy?" without a metric fuckton of context, especially on an imageboard where anon's tastes and software utilization are esoteric as fuck.

>>1964735 The chances of Nvidia crashing and dying are literally 0, they're still the only supplier of an essential product that will still be useful even if we have a large surplus for it (compute). Even if we don't reach general intelligence, we can still automate maybe 80% of cognitive tasks literally today, this very moment, if we just focus in harnessing the LLMs we have access to today with the right tools, context and "training" (prompts), and use the surplus compute only for running inference (the process that makes an LLM output a response), as that's MUCH MUCH cheaper than actually training things. In fact, as a whole, if we removed training entirely from the equation, it turns out that running inference alone is PROFITABLE if you balance your compute capacity + electricity costs just right, so I guarantee you that that part is going nowhere.

>>1964915 >>1964926 Ok lets ask it this way: what would I need a 5070ti for? My friend is unfortunately captivated by normgroid games, so I'll possibly be playing GTA VI at some point in the future.

>>1964968 That I guess The most perdormance heavy games I play are Bannerlord, Dying Light The Beast and I want to try STALKER 2 when it's actually finished so I don't need anything beyond my RTX 4080 and that's already overkill. Most of what I play is from the 90s/00s

>>1964963 The part going nowhere right now (lol) is niggers from the government skimming taxes and lying their asses off.

>>1964968 If rockstar does not decide on a significant upgrade inbetween the ps5 and pc relase you should be fine with the 5070ti, personally id get something that suits your needs better and upgrade once gta 6 relases in 2030 or whenever it will

>>1964904 I sure hope you got ram beforehand. If windows: Consider nvidia, they're inflated but if you want to do any AI slop or AI slop gamewise (fake frames and all that) they're unfortunately the leader of the pack. If you're not made out of money or linux-fag: Ignore nvidia entirely and just do AMD. I have a 6750 xt. It's medium-end right now and you can get it anywhere from $280-320. If I myself were to upgrade it'd be to a AMD 9070 series card. 9070 is very good value but it starts costly (550$ minimum.) >>1964968 Modern games? That does sting. Nvidia's been very stingy on VRAM and being a vramlet will cuck you on shit like Stalker 2 or GTA VI. That being said, more and more games are bottlenecked by the CPU (I think both Dragons Dogma 2 and Stalker 2 had this problem.) So a card with decent vram (12~ gigs should probably be your target, 16 being the ideal for future-proofing) and okay speed will do. (2500~ mhz) There are other stats on cards you could consider but clock-speed and vram size I think are the main items these days. You would be maxing out your 5070ti for any of these games. I would again consider the 9070 series as they provide comparable performance for much cheaper, at the price of it being AMD (instability, worse drivers on windows, worse AI slop fake frame gen, etc. To be fair, Lossless Scaling has gotten pretty good too.) I would consider a CPU that can at least breach around 5 ghz, I've got one that does 4.7 at boost clock and it gets slapped around by shit like Dragons Dogma 2.

>>1964968 >GTA VI That won't even be out until next year, pending further delays, and will have a further 1 year exclusivity contract on Playstation. That's so far out that current market conditions don't really even factor into it. You'd be better off just waiting it out and building a new system when the opportunity presents itself. >5070ti Unless you're pushing a 4k monitor, a 4070 or Ti variant should do you just fine. The performance uplift on the 50 series is pretty underwhelming, and prices are starting to drop on the 4070s. If you're targeting 1440p, I mean, I haven't had any issues with mine on what few latest AAA games I've played. It does still choke hitting good performance at full resolution in more demanding VR titles (like MSFS) or just terribly optimized titles like American Truck Sim (though that's more of a CPU bottleneck since the damned game is still running on a single core until he engine updates)

>>1964968 The biggest question is what resolution you want to play at. If you want to play at 1080p medium/high and don't care about gaytracing or rasterization or whatever then a 9060 XT 16GB is probably the most bang for your buck but if you want to play at 1440p+ then pepper your angus because Nvidia dominates at higher resolutions thanks to DUDE FRAMEGEN LMAO.

5 years ago this was roughly half the price, wild shit

>>1964606 Same but I've got a 1070, and a 2060 I picked up for basically nothing and I've been procrastinating installing it for 2 months now

>>1964182 I bought RAM not even knowing about the bubble.

>>1965456 Oh wow, that's actually twice what I paid. I didn't even notice until I took the screenshot.

>>1964255 I'm grateful I said fuck it earlier this year and did a full on upgrade and got brand new rig. If not I'd be totally fucked in the ass.

>>1964448 >>relying on the lootboxes of art and gambling over and over again until you get something you deem "least bad" to add to your collection You're doing it wrong. Why the fuck would you save raw outputs? That's just a foundation to build on.

>>1964581 Huh, I never expected anyone to save my literal shitpost, let alone repost it three years later.

>>1967435 You speak of the digital witchcraft that is inpainting, controlnet, regional prompting, etc? Many (including myself) flock to the likes of ComfyAI and Forge because the likes of GIMP and Photoshop are daunting.

>>1967599 I used to do inpainting for friends years ago using photoshop. Seems like ai can do it all now huh.

There isn’t an AI problem, it’s an IQ program. Demographic have shifted heavily towards lower IQ. Marketing crazes are more powerful and deeply ingrained into culture as a result. When the bubble venture money goes away, it’ll seek the next craze (ie, quantum computing) and the next generation of low-IQs will go through the same cycle. IF there’s a next venture bubble event, that may be over with after AI. As IQs drop, it becomes easier to pocket money instead of chasing investment growth.

>>1967821 Just compare how ticket scalping exploded at the same time as computer hardware prices. The people paying $2000 for a mid-tier GPU for gaming or AI are not the same people paying a scalper $2000 for Taylor Swift tickets.

This is all a conspiracy to force people to play on c*nsoles again.

>>1964171 Meanwhile in DDR3land I'm paying $150 tops for 64GB and I can find decent RAM for $100 even. Sure my RAM is way slower but who cares. It's more about the size than the speed I notice and the fastest shit all happens on the GPU anyway and my old-ass mobo can still run the latest graphics cards.

If any AIfag is actually doing this they are retarded. You can get a modestly comparable speed SSD far cheaper with far more memory available.. There are even purpose made expansion cards designed to run SSDs as RAM.. I'm 100% confident this "ai bros buying ram in masse" bs is just a smoke screen excuse for companies to charge far more for ram. It's not a valid reason cause it would take five seconds for anyone wanting to build a datacenter to find the far more economical and sane choice..

>>1968143 Jesus fuck anon.

>>1968173 The claim is that the manufacturers are putting all their production capacity into VRAM, so there is less supply of ordinary RAM, leading to higher prices. And for that, no, you definitely can't substitute an SSD. Even offloading to CPU RAM slows down the process by orders of magnitude.

>>1968173 It's not just AI buying ram, it's multiple factors coinciding and exacerbating each other that caused a shortage and increase in demand at the same time, which will result in years to stabilize assuming the AI bubble doesn't suddenly pop in the next 12 months, which it won't.

>>1968208 Nothing will “stabilize”. The Asian labor centers are no longer competing with one another to grab market. They have the market and now they are re-aligning to the new (close to a decade actually) business meta of controlling demand instead of increasing supply. And why should anyone invest in growing supply? Increasing price is an immediately profit growth with no / minimal risk. Investing into new supply is fundamentally risky and takes years to realize a net growth. In the past, the Asian manufacturing centers were hungry to grab share and so were screwing everyone else, but thats over with now.

>>1964171 Last time I bought RAM (long ago) was an upgrade from 16GB to 32GB. In hindsight, I probably should've went to 64GB or even 128GB as there are some AI workloads that would benefit. Now it's not really worth the price. Upgrading CPU+RAM+Mobo isn't viable either at these prices.

>>1968178 What's wrong with taking advantage of a situation? My CPUs are from 2009 and my GPU is from 2014 and I can still play anything I want to play. And now that I have 128 gigs of RAM, I can play multiple things at once if I want to.

>>1968143 >>1969220 >64GB >2009 Anon, don't be lying now.

>>1964171 I bought this set of RAM in 2023. It was $76. What the hell.

>>1968178 64GB for 100 USD is a good deal. >>1968193 No, but you can use DDR3. Or you can try using the Intel Optane Persistent Memory DDR4 sticks as extra memory. They are way slower than proper RAM but way faster than the SSD and you can get 128GB on one DDR4 stick for less than 1 USD per GB and have your system use them as RAM. >>1969276 Not him, but there are DDR3 motherboards that support 256GB of RAM. >>1969710 Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron are regularly colluding to jack up RAM prices. AI demand has given them a new excuse to crank up prices like mad.

>>1969276 It's a Xeon. Dual processors, eight RAM slots. Technically I can take it to 192 GB by hand-modifying my firmware, but I chose convenience (sort of scared of doing that) and cost (128 is cheaper and more readily available).

>>1968143 Coping on a i5-2500k is no longer feasible, the new meme "old CPU that runs anything i throw at it" is the R5 5600 now.

>>1969824 >Bloomfield Xeons >with RDIMMs >dual sockets Gonna say I'm not a fan, hopefully it's at-least X5690s >>1969809 >Not him, but there are DDR3 motherboards that support 256GB of RAM. True but only dual sockets and that's very bad in anything gaming, and generally even if you wanna compute on the super cheap X99 is leagues better for the same price.

>>1969841 You can run an i5-4570k quite easily. I'm on i5-3570k atm and it works fine. >>1969938 There's more than dual socket out there for 256GB iirc. And honestly, you're not gonna need that much.

>>1970030 Upgrading from a 3770 to AM5 doubled my FPS in games with a 6750xt.

>>1970049 Gainestown Xeons. 5570s. I could swap for Westmere 5670s because my firmware supports it, but that's a thought for another time.

>>1970030 >>1970043 One thing that makes the pre Haswell stuff not worth using anymore is the lack of AVX2, means you get shit perf in a lot of place where you would not with AVX2 and also more and more game simply just refuse to work without the instructions that come with Haswell stuff, technically even now a 5960X is still "current" performance level though only the lowest end current stuff.

>>1970058 DDR3 Haswell stuff also exists. Even the 4000 series is Haswell.

>>1970058 > the lack of AVX2 It keeps me from playing Victoria 3, at least. That's annoying.

>>1964171 >>1964182 Okay, BUT what happens to RAM after the gAIy bubble pop? Will they drop back down to a reasonable price? Assuming it isn't just propped up forever via subsidies much like how ethanol corn isn't efficient or environmentally friendly and over all a giant waste of time to grow an refine... Much like 90% of 'AI'/LLM's. >>1964267 >well, was all the AI generated meme shit worth the cost? Given high end consumer grade hardware that normal people can afford either because they're a doctor or layer or with some corner cutting in other aspects of their life that said hardware can and has been able to run their own local/native LLM's and image generating software I'd say no. Say what you will of the CCP, I have many criticisms too (like that Tibet should be independent again) BUT DeepSeek almost killed 'Open'AI the moment it released and I sure do fucking wish the Commie Chinks were successful in that endeavor but oh well. >B-b-b-b-but muh gAIy is necessary for national security The amount of money corporations and the US government has dumped into what is basically a higher end chat bot could have been used to develop a fucking aircraft carrier or finally complete outfighting modern weapons to the Zumwalts so those can actually be useful which is 100% more worth our time simply because they're cool looking. Oh boy I sure do love paying taxes to the great Satan so a bunch of old retarded tech illiterate boomers can throw money away into developing this shit, maybe I should go become an expat in Thailand or one of those other non aligned movement countries and aid them in Jewing Ameritards Russhits and Commie Chinks. I was originally gonna slowly piece together a DDR5 motherboard and all the other things I want through store sales and promotional links but now I'm rationalizing 'upgrading' to a DDR3 PC which means digging around for a decent old Dell Optiplex that hopefully has a GPU slot so I can brute force whatever i3 processor is in it to suck less, likely with some AMD card from Maxsum or Yeston.

>>1970980 >Will they drop back down to a reasonable price? I dont know what you consider reasonable but they certainly wont drop to pre spike levels without severe intervention considering the producers' monkey business history >I was originally gonna slowly piece together a DDR5 motherboard and all the other things I want through store sales and promotional links but now I'm rationalizing 'upgrading' to a DDR3 PC which means digging around for a decent old Dell Optiplex that hopefully has a GPU slot so I can brute force whatever i3 processor is in it to suck less, likely with some AMD card from Maxsum or Yeston. Look for dell 3630 listings, theyre pretty good

>>1970980 >The amount of money corporations and the US government has dumped into what is basically a higher end chat bot could have been used to develop a fucking aircraft carrier or finally complete outfighting modern weapons to the Zumwalts so those can actually be useful which is 100% more worth our time simply because they're cool looking. That's just the public-facing part of it. The real investment is in areas that the public doesn't hear about much because they glow and which are, consequentially, much more interesting. Things like, oh, I dunno: >Real-time translation of enemy battlefield communications at a squad level >Autonomous weapons systems >Novel chemical weapons research >Targeting systems Everyone thinks that the government is interested in funding chatbots and crap like that when what really gets dicks hard at the DoD is some company coming to them and saying "we've developed machine learning tools that allow existing AESA radars pick up Chinese stealth aircraft with 98% reliability" or "we've developed facial recognition and datalink software that allow a meshed network of autonomous camouflaged drones to identify and track HVTs in real time". The amount of money saved and efficiency gained from software-based solutions as opposed to hardware-based solutions is absolutely insane. It just looks really gay and stupid from the outside.

>>1971028 >>Real-time translation of enemy battlefield communications at a squad level mtl is pretty common and talked about in public circles My question is how do you fit those autonomous solutions inside something like a ghost bat, unless theres some hyper efficient asic chip in the making theyd need to be connected to something on the ground or to a human squad leader plane like theyre utilized now

>>1970119 Yeah true but 4 core is kind of potato nowadays The unlocked 8 core and 10 core Xeons (so long as you go HT OFF and use the turbo unlocker) are really what you want, if you're smart you can have a CPU + mobo + ram for very cheap and still have worthwhile performance

Well it's Black Friday & Jewegg only has a "deal" on one DDR4 memory kit (2x16 32GB). For DDR5 the prices look like a joke. Some DDR5 kits are nearing $1,000 & that's their "deal" price.

>>1971028 >That's just the public-facing part of it. The real investment is in areas that the public doesn't hear about much because they glow and which are, consequentially, much more interesting. Things like, oh, I dunno: >>Real-time translation of enemy battlefield communications at a squad level >>Autonomous weapons systems >>Novel chemical weapons research So nothing of value at all beyond fake globohomo war bullcrap.

gaming is basically a dead hobby at this point with pricing like this. the WHOLE point of gaming was to be a cheap hobby. the PS2 was $300 on launch and you got a full proper gaming experience. but now why the fuck would I set up a gaming rig when I could get a low mileage 986/987 or SL class for the same price? or literally any other hobby at this point.

>>1971946 >986/987 or SL class German cars are not cheap to repair, nor is it easy. You will require a very special kind of autism in order to deal with it.

>>1971946 >$300 on launch About $550 now. If that still looks like too much, that's because it is. Most jobs have received zero baseline wage growth over the years. We have the exact same budget since 2006 and the costs have only increased. The daily wage of most jobs cannot buy as much as it could twenty years ago, which is a fact. A disparity that is only getting worse, too.

>>1972098 well you can also get good Jap, British, Italian etc. cars at that price rance. point is gaming is too expensive to be a viable hobby at this point >>1972139 true. gaming on the way to being a boomer hobby. back to books or movies I guess.

>>1971946 >986/987 or SL class for the same price? You gaming rig is not gonna cost you 5-35k upfront and is certainly not gonna cost you thousands in maintenance and insurance. >SL class I too like buying a endless money pit that only gets fun to drive if you somehow find it in your heart to spend even more money to make it even less reliable.

>>1972206 gaming rigs are now ~$5k-6k and will now become even more expensive. maintenance and insurance can be replaced with cost of games and accessories and online and subscriptions.

I can buy a pre-build PC for 1356$ with 32GBs of ram in it and a 5060. Same thing I did 5 years ago when I bought my current pre-build I'm still using when GPU prices were shit, I bought a full pre-build that costed as much as a lone 3060 with everything already in it. The price is still the same, last time I checked was a couple of months ago, min. 6. I have it in my sights since, as I said, my brick already has 5 years in, and I have no need to upgrade, everything I want to play works and 16GB of RAM and a 3060 is still enough. But it has me slightly worried they could jack up the price in a year and I don't know when my PC will finally rest in peace and I will order a new one.

>>1972262 >gaming rigs are now ~$5k-6k and will now become even more expensive. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6YCh4p Retards not welcome >maintenance and insurance can be replaced with cost of games and accessories and online and subscriptions. In one single year you're gonna outpace even some pretty insane buying habit for vidya with just basic maintenance and insurance on a fun car, especially if you do trackday / drive it more than on the weekends.

>>1972290 >https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6YCh4p this shit isn't enough for 4K@60fps medium settings with raytracing, specially with unoptimized UE5 slop. 1080p and 1440p are obsolete and no amount of Hz and OLED can make them cool

>>1972326 Nothing can do 4k60 in newer titles And if you're gonna go full retard with a top of the line system I will have to remind you that top of the line has always been retardedly expensive and right now it's not even close to being as bad as it was at some points in time, could easily touch 10-15k back when HEDT was in full swing.

>>1972335 holy shit then what's even the point of modern gaming? I honestly cannot go back to 1080p/1440p. I'd take nothing over playing at a blurry obsolete resolution.

>>1964904 >My friend is pushing me to get the Palantir Ti Don't unless you find one used for a good deal, Nvidia makes no profits from the used market. Don't buy Jensen another leather jacket, go with team red instead.

>>1971645 There's been rumors for a while now that what they want is to be able to combine that and the sheer amount of DNA data being bought from the various ancestry/criminal database/immigration/medical testings to someday be able to create diseases/poisons that will only affect the desired target group even when mass spread. Imagine how horrific that would be. Guaranteed it wouldn't be named as a war crime or whatever because it would be covered up by the very paid off media, and auto-filtered by ai jannies on social media. I hope I'm wrong and this never comes to be however. >>1971632 Black Friday seems to get worse every year sadly

>>1972962 >don't bbuy Jensen another leather jacket <buy him a purrdy dress instead! ??

>>1972350 >I honestly cannot go back to 1080p/1440p If you are the same anon as from, I think it was the previous Steam Machine thread, then you admitted that you have never actually played a native 4K game, only upscaled. I will even go so far as to say, that most movies you have seen on your 4K TV/monitor, weren't actually native 4K, as most torrents are in 1080p (so again upscaled), streaming is in 720p even if you paid for the 4K premium service (LOL), and even if you get the blu-rays, not all of them are in 4K. You are just getting, at best, a 1080p movie stretched to 4K. Now you might say how film reels are in 6K resolution, but I don't think you actually have those film reels at home, what you have is a digital encoding of those film, which could be in 4K, but can also be in 480p, but most likely in 1080p. It's not that you can't go back to 1080p/1440p, it's that you have never actually went to 4K, unless you want to count those demo clips you see displayed on the TVs in the electronic store to showcase what the TV could output, if it actually played a native 4K movie.

>>1973984 high bitrate fhd > youtube bitrate 4k

>>1974116 Maybe, but the point still remains, that anon most likely barely watched or played anything in native 4K.

>>1972350 1080p isn't blurry unless you have a higher resolution LED monitor pretending to do a lower resolution at a ratio that isn't pixel perfect because if it has to represent a 1x1 block of pixels with 1.6x1.6 the amount of pixels or something it'll have to do some garbage image-stretch picture scaling that's smearing pixels to try to fit. If your 4K screen is just a 2160p though it should be able to do a 1080p resolution crisply because it can just use a 2x2 block of pixels for every 1x1 pixel in 1080p, so you have pixel perfect scaling. >>>/vb/24375 goes into this shit more. You're better off running games in a 1080p resolution than 4K most of the time because you can get higher FPS and crank up the graphics settings more and that'll make it look better than those extra pixels were. It's also way cheaper on your graphics card budget.

>>1964267 If it gets normalfags out of computers and video games you should be sucking AI's toes.

>>1974549 They only care about graphics, except the ones playing solitaire at work. Can't milk them if they aren't going to buy the latest unoptimized corporate checkbox non-game because their hardware won't run it. Or they do buy it and shit all over it (at least, until they make an anime out of it). AI is saving video games one way or another.

>>1974592 >normalfags only care about graphics <all of the most played consumer slop are mobile games and e-sports that run on potatoes High fidelity gaming is a niche reddit fedora tipping bugman hobby, not a normalfag fixation. >>1974599 Cyberpunk looks like shit. Skyrim with like a dozen mods looks better.

>>1974469 >If it gets normalfags out of computers and video games you should be sucking AI's toes. AI makes everything MORE accessible to the average normtard, not less.

>>1974609 >most played consumer slop are mobile games <eye candy games, just with waifus and big tits >e-sports <not eye candy but heavily entrenched in social territory, which attracts normalfags You are delusional if you fully believe normalfags aren't insufferable when it comes to graphics and heavily attracted to eye candy, and you probably barely interacted with any that are more on the casual side of the hobby. Every single one of them are wowed by graphics and eye candy, it was always a topic discussed about in every single singleplayer sony "game", to the point that so many fucking people refuse to play older games not because they're worse in gameplay or "older", they just physically can't push themselves to play shit older than 2015 even though it looks perfectly fine as graphics stagnated massively.

>>1974725 None of these people actually care about video games, they're just repeating a social game kind of script.

>>1974731 So what? Do you really think catering to people who actually like video-games is as easy and profitable as catering to mongrels easily impressed by vapid shinier things?

>>1974725 <eye candy games, just with waifus and big tits Okay so you don't know what the word graphics means then, that's all you had to say.

Hey I'm not the one getting into an autistic shitflinging contest for once

>>1974897 IQ exists on a spectrum, sometimes you just meet people in the lower ends.

LMAO, goodbye, dumbass.

>>1973873 Ummm excuse me BUT are you implying buying Red Jensen a cute dress is a bad thing, chud?

Are you ready for the death of computers? https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business

>>1987708 >Sumit Sadana <Sumit graduated from the Indian Institute of Technology with a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering How those pajeets keep worming into companies only to destroy them is beyond me

>>1987723 Then repaste it? CPU's don't "start to overheat" as failure, they just stop working. Actually they don't really do that either, motherboards and PSU's almost always fail before the CPU itself.

>>1987723 Buy a new CPU cooler?

>>1987731 Indians are going to be the downfall of civilization.

>>1987723 Have you tried using a good thermal paste? Decent odds your current thermal paste was some low grade stuff that came with the CPU and went to shit and that's why your CPU is starting to overheat now. Seriously, replace the thermal paste.

>>1987731 >how Come on, anon. You know how.

>>1987731 >how?

>>1987708 Jesus Christ we're fucked six ways to Sunday.

>>1987708 Meh, last night I successfully edited a photo in GIMP while I had an Unreal Engine 5 game, a couple Firefox tabs and a Signal call all running in the background. I'm totally fine with 16gb.

>>1987807 >>1987812 It all feels surreal

>>1987708 I pray every day for the AI bubble to pop. They want us to have nothing, they want to end personal computing and completely lock down the Internet.

>>1987708 AHAHAH, YES, THE AI SLOPOCALYPSE CONTINUES TO FUCK LITERALLY EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE Rejoice AI-fags, THIS is the culmination of your efforts to obsolete porn commissions and the few bad VAs that make shitty dubs, you have fucked the environment, the economy, and now hardware availability which not only immediately impacts gamers but literally everyone else as it trickles down to every facet of modern civilization that runs on computers. Now EVERYONE must suffer for your hubris.

>>1988248 Everything isn't even getting fucked for something good either. Like if the trade off was some dystopian but legitimately impressive technology then maybe it could be understandable. But the AI novelty wore off within the first few months and it's literally done nothing but become a massive inconvenience to basically everything ever since. All information is poisoned and I've still yet to find a single instance where it's been useful to me.

>>1987708 >>1988247 If the AI bubble ever bursts, I wonder what kind of apocalyptic scenario that is going to look like. >>1988248 Thanks for reminding me I have the gondola version of that. I almost forgot where I put it. >Now EVERYONE must suffer That is the most annoying thing about this.

Remember, anons: the bigger it gets, the closer it is to burst.

>>1988219 It's supposed to feel that way, a natural healthy society wouldn't do this.

>>1988441 And nothing is too big too fail

>>1988473 i guess thats true

>>1988474 Understand the "too big to fail" rhetoric after 2008 did not mean "we're too big to even fail, bucko ;^)". It meant "these corporations are too big to be allowed to fail because it could collapse the economy", it was reasoning for bailouts. The English language is a fuck.

>>1988835 >collapse the economy maybe the fake one, getting rid of all those tax leech giants who produce nothing of value would be beneficial to nearly everyone

Is it time to start hoarding PC components and devices? >>1988835 Personally if it pops I hope there's all kinds of revolutions and civil wars in western countries and the current managerial class gets to hang from lampposts.

Copied from elsewhere: The Memory Mafia (Samsung Electronics, SK Hynix, and Micron Technology) are behind this. In February of this year they were on the news saying they will reduce production, because there was oversupply and market prices were too low. So they created this scarcity to make prices go up. I hope they rot in hell. https://www.techspot.com/news/106815-nand-flash-weak-demand-oversupply.html

>>1988835 >because it could collapse the economy"

>>1988896 Not the first time it happens

>>1988896 We need to lobby Intel to make Optane DIMMs again. Any competition against those price-gouging motherfuckers will be a good deed.

>>1988896 I recall that memory manufacturers have been in legal trouble over price fixing before, but the fines are nothing compared to the profits so it keeps happening.

>>1988896 Isn’t that illegal?

>>1989195 All of this shit is a literal scam, yeah.

>>1988896 yeah, and them blaming ai is just convenient scapegoat

>>1989357 Both can be true, LLMbro.

>>1989195 High ranked people from these companies got short sentences because of prior collusion, at least 5 guys from each company involved

>>1989195 Nothing's illegal if you're rich.

>>1989195 Today's word of the day is "Chaebol"!

>>1988441 ...so if we want it to collapse we have to put more money into it? You're telling me to buy the Google AI now?

>>1988896 The one thing me and R*ddit can agree on: Luigi did nothing wrong (allegedly).

>>1990186 the cheaper alternative is sending altman to see his grandpa

>>1990186 He's saying lost objects are always found in the last place you look.

>>1988248 The VAs and Localisation niggers absolutely had it coming that's the one thing I'll grant AI.

What a boring world.

>>1989103 Every day that passes we understand more, this is just the memory cartel abusing it's position to increase prices again. SSD prices will skyrocket very soon because the same fabs also make those memory chips.

<NVIDIA restores 32-bit PhysX support for GeForce RTX 50 Series graphics cards >NVIDIA has reinstated 32-bit GPU-accelerated PhysX support for select legacy games on GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs with the latest 591.44 WHQL driver. This update restores full physics performance in popular titles like Borderlands 2 and Batman: Arkham City, addressing previous performance drops caused by CPU offloading >The first batch of nine games that will run at full speed again includes the following: Alice: Madness Returns, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Batman: Arkham City, Batman: Arkham Origins, Borderlands 2, Mafia II, Metro 2033, Metro: Last Light, and Mirror's Edge. >NVIDIA adds that support for Batman: Arkham Asylum will be available in early 2026

>>1993170 >forgot to post the archive My bad. https://archive.is/ay7cU

>>1993170 This decade will be the decade I finish Mirror's Edge then.

>>1993170 So they only restored it for a select few games?

>>1993745 You can reenable it through Nvidia Profile Inspector for every game I've been told, though just know that even with actual hardware some older games do not enjoy running PhysX on newer cards (Metro 2033 and ROTT in particular like to go full SPS if you're using anything newer than GTX 700s)

>>1993964 >having to manually enable it for every game I wouldn't even trade my graphics card for a 50 series lol

>>1993170 They shouldn't have ditched it to begin with since multiple big game titles use it! >Batman: Arkham Origins Reminder: Origins, while not best in the series, is an excellent game for the Christmas vibe around this season. The snow tessellation & steam physics were neat. Environments are comfy with Christmas decorations inside & out. >Alice: Madness Returns Best Girl: Physx Support Returns