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Pre-2012 Isekai Games Anonymous 07/01/2024 (Mon) 16:51:33 Id: 795017 No. 985217
Let's talk about isekai in video games before isekai was totally ruined by a terrible but inexplicably popular work in 2012. >Final Fantasy Tactics Advance A bunch of kids are sucked into a fantasy world by a magic book, with the weak bullied kid being its ruler. Every character (except some bullies, but their cursed existence in the new world is something only a very observant player will ever notice is a thing) has a genuinely better life within this book so the main character decides to destroy the world and restore the original. The game is legendary for how poorly developed his motivations are, and how the plot sucks from it, and how it (and the law system) ruin the otherwise sold gameplay >Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Sequel to above. Another kid (just the one) is sucked into the same fantasy world. Plot is pretty aimless and mostly him witnessing other people's story and waiting for stuff to happen around him, but it's not the actively broken >Summon Night Japanese high school girl winds up in fantasy world populated primarily by natives of other worlds who have been one way summoned to the world. All future games in the franchise drop the idea of having the main character being from Earth, but do have some random characters who were summoned from it. >Baten Kaitos Unusual execution where the player is summoned to the game's world as a spirit to help guide the main character. The games actually do a lot of interesting things with the framing device. Pretty solid jRPGs with interesting battle systems and worth a play. Don't play the HD re-release because a tranny re-localized it to death. >every Alice in Wonderland/Wizard of Oz game I'm not aware of any that are particularly interesting in execution, but there's a few dozen of these and I mention them for completion.
>>1014404 Nigger who cares about SAO after the first part?
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I'm shocked in all this isekai discussion Another World didn't come up once, it's in the title and premise and everything. Magi-Nation for Game Boy Color akso qualifies. It does bring up some discussion of the distinction between portal fantasy and isekike. I would have to say in the former the focus is on the world and the protagonist is merely a means of experiencing it to the consumer; there are no exceptions for the protagonist and he often has to integrate with the setting to survive. Whereas the latter is just a mechanized onahole for the consumer to jerk himself off and the world contorts itself to do so, see the "special protagonist lifehack" that is a staple of the genre.
>>1014405 They get out during the first part too. Extremely few isekai ever have characters go back, so even in your definition of the series, it isn't a pure isekai.
>>1014411 >Extremely few isekai ever have characters go back Most isekai aren't finished yet. More importantly, he was clearly brought to another world and lived and survived there, I don't see how it isn't an isekai. >>1014404 >It's not an isekai if he jacks in to different mmos as some sort of net cop. That has no bearing on anything.
>>1014411 Literally all three in the OP have the player go back (second pic even manages to get her wife in the real world), and player isn't even trapped in the third.
>>1014403 > Now saying .hack is an isekai would be retarded. Well the games don't count...
>>985352 What's a paladin?
>>1014442 Paladins are a "righteous knight" character class in video games, it evolved from TTRPGs like D&D.
>>1015260 I can't tell if this is intentional or not
>>1014442 >>1015260 To be more specific they are are a cleric + knight with a focus on smiting undead and other evil beings and usually with an additional focus on party defense and healing. The other kind of /tg/ type righteous knight in the more mundane sense of "I work for the Church and beat the shit out of heretics" are called Templars.
>>985217 >The game is legendary for how poorly developed his motivations are, and how the plot sucks from it <WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SOME BULLIES THREW A ROCK AT ME I WILL TURN THEM INTO ZOMBIES TO BE FARMED FOR EXP <TEE HEE NO ONE CAN DIE HERE OOOPS HERE'S SOME JAHD'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN REALLY DIE <MY HAIR SHOULD BE PINK INSTEAD OF WHITE BECAUSE...IT JUST DOES OK! <EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT REALLY A CRIPPLE I'M TOO SICK TO WALK AND I NEED A POWER FANTASY TO ACTUALLY WALK Mewt is a nigger and Marche did nothing wrong.
Is Star Ocean: The Second Story isekai?
>>985231 >I have the worst taste imaginable Noted.
>>1015862 >People in an isekai thread like isekai. This upsets me greatly Noted.
>>1015808 From the point of view of the FeMC and her people, I'd say yes. From the POV of the male MC, I'd say it's more like Robinson Crusoe. Wait, is Robinson Crusoe a type of isekai?
>>1016119 If so, then so is Buck Rogers.
>isekai You're all wapanese niggerfaggots with brains rotted by crappy jap novels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidental_travel
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>>1016147 That's the joke.
>>1016147 In the west we call them Narnia :)
>>1016147 >>1016148 Vintage exchange.
>>1016147 Is isekai always accidental?
>>1016096 Isekai is objectively garbage.
>>1016264 >My opinions are facts! Hop on the Magic School Bus, ESL. we're going back to Grade 2.
>>1016277 That chart is fucking terrible, it's way too close to misleading.and implies that awards and critic opinions are objective rather than subjective determinations. Yes, it might be an objective fact that something won awards, but that doesn't mean it's objectively good by any means.
>>1016284 Shut up, ESL
>>1016277 >>1016284 No, ESL, it implies receiving 10 awards is something that objectively happened. "Good" is subjective, if 90% like something and 10% don't no one's "objectively wrong." "Objectively good" is a retard phrase by and for retards and saying it beams a big blazing bat signal into the sky that you're retarded. Congratulations, you failed Grade 2! >>1016286 What 8chan needs is a big beautiful wall.
>>1016287 I was being sarcastic, spicnigger. Your tard chart equates critic opinions with objective fact.
>>1016264 >>1016277 >>1016286 >>1016287 People's reading comprehension here has swirled the drain since /hisparefugio/, /arepa/, and /mex/ became top boards, don't expect Pablo to read that chart right even when it's literally from "ESLBUZZ." These retards dropped /v/'s IQ below 90 and understand nothing but terrible tequila and Taco Tuesday.
>>1016287 >>1016286 >retards can't see the issue with comparing critic opinions and one's own opinion to explain the difference between subjectivity and objectivity >then accuses anyone who disagrees with this of being ESL Spics were a mistake, if only because their mere existence brings out prime examples of Dunning-Kruger effect like you fags. When someone says that something "objectively" received awards and has critical acclaim, what do you think the person saying that intends to convey with such a statement, retard? It's almost like it's attempting to claim those are an objective assessment of quality. It even includes shit like measurements and metrics in the definition to grant legitimacy to what is ultimately a subjective determination of taste. If they wanted to use something for the objectivity side of things, a better example would have been something like scientific phenomena or mathematics.
>>1016277's chart files "This movie won 10 awards and received critical acclaim" under "objective" because it's objective. It doesn't say your strawman "critical acclaim is an objective assessment of quality," idiot, because quality's subjective. It explicitly files "I think this movie is the best one ever made" under "subjective." Yes, most people sharing an opinion doesn't make the opinion a fact. That's not the fucking claim, you glaze-eyed monkey-fucking shit-for-brains. People make fun of you because you're the idiot spic who can't read nor handle being taught you're wrong. You misunderstood a chart made for second language speakers like you then projected your Dunning-Kruger onto everyone who reads at levels past a nine-year-old.
>>1016314 >critical acclaim is an objective assessment of quality That's exactly what the chart is insinuating when all of its examples center around judgements of value. "I said that [opinion]" is every bit as objective a statement as "critics said that [opinion]".
>This educational material for second language speakers is wrong because ummmm... because of shit it never said! If I keep attacking shit it never said, it'll hide my disastrous dumb-ass misread! Even common educational materials for second language speakers are past your reading level. Choose one of these, you'll make better progress.
>>1016286 >Shut up, ESL <Narrator: And ESL didn't shut up. ESL, with a stupidity exceeded only by his certainty, went on, and on, and on, and on.
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Klonoa thread, you say? Whatcha playan? What's the best bonus stage? and most importantly Which Wa would you hoo?


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