>>1052759 (((You)))

>>1052756 Jesus Christ, how long was itsince the last one? >that last page

>>1052756 Wow a Christmas miracle. I thought this was 100% dead.

WHAT THE FUCK HAS HELL FROZEN OVER?

>>1052756 Honestly. After that I've heard they fixed the game. The final one couldn't be better. But this also means no team fortress 3

>>1052771 >But this also means no Team Fortress 3 They do a subtle visual gag that sets up a hypothetical TF3, but unless it drops, it's a visual gag.

>>1052773 Sorry being a bad reader. But where is that?

>>1052756 I didn't expect an ending this straightforward.It feels nice. >>1052771 >team fortress 3 If they have nowhere to go with it there's no point. For better or worse, sequels as an obligation is anathema to Valve.

>>1052776 >Sorry being a bad reader. But where is that? When Saxton hands over Mann Co. to Reddy and Bidwell. Notice they wear blue and red ties, respectively.

>>1052768 7 years start coming and they don’t stop coming.

Imagine, is you will, out of nowhere. Half Life 3. I know it will suck, but still.

Oh my god, it's actually over. I hope to god every day we have a Team Fortress 3 made with all the love and care that went to TF2, but our reality is a cursed one. May we find happiness in death or in the simulations in the future.

>>1052781 They're probably going to put that Deadlock crap into the TF2 universe, who knows.

Will TF2 fags finally kill themselves?

>>1052783 Nah, it doesn't fit. TF2's schtick is the Australium, whereas Deadlock is the occult and those weird magic storms. Although, I wouldn't remove the chance that they make it a "lore cameo" of sorts where a parallel universe was connected to TF2 through a portal briefly and we get soldier hat cosmetics for warden, that kind of bullshit.

>>1052785 Warden's design is temporary and he's getting a completely new one at some point down the line, dialogue in-game refers to him as a "creepy homeschooled kid" wearing a Halloween costume, and he's supposedly wearing a cape which his current model lacks.

Where was pyro in the ending?

>>1052756 SEXO CON OLIVIAAAAAA

>>1052756 HOLY SHIT IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING

>>1052803 BREEDABLE

Damn, and I thought it was never going to happen. >>1052777 Is that pyro over on the far right? Build is roughly the same.

>>1052816 Here's pyro.

>>1052777 1970s scout looks so weird. He should be what, 33 here? >>1052771 >But this also means no team fortress 3 You could argue spiritually, that would be Deadlock.

>>1052817 Oh, guess that's engi then. I swear he was shorter but the comics have never been good at keeping heights consistent. Still, hell has really frozen over. Maybe this is Valve's final farewell to the game and they're just going to continue the psuedo maintenance mode at this point with the community update schedule.

He looks so.. different. He's mid 30s but they still kept his youthful look from the game. He's also a dad now

Oh, and Scout's name is Jeremy Willis. Jeremy was known to be his first name for awhile.

>>1052824 DILF FORTRESS 2

>>1052829 Everybody's a dad now, it's so funny.

>>1052830 Are you a dad?

>>1052847 My only legacy is memes, anon.

>>1052851 and hats?

Well, I haven’t read it yet but I can’t imagine it will live up to the hype.

>>1052830 Except Merasmus, he's barabait now.

>>1052781 s&box is already semi-out, fans can make their own TF3. And man, that was a good conclusion. very apt that the Administrator was looking for Australium just to torture Zephaniah Mann a while longer Also, the constant baiting to the cuckchan "leak" a while back was hilarious. As evidenced by attachment the potential already exists for more edits and macros.

>>1052889 He's Tom Jones' Daddy

>>1052891 The ending was very nice, but why did she do what she did? We know that there is ´´a reason´´, that is implicit in comic 6, the thing is the covers of comic 7, they imply that his parents died, but not the way in which that happened, leaving it to free interpretation how They died, something like the origin of the Joker, the real question is: Is Zeppenian Mann responsible for this? Let's also take into account the ghost and the space maps that were not finished, it is most likely that this is a retcon and they had another ending planned

>>1052906 Are the space maps even canon? They were a leftover idea from a previous sci-fi version of TF2 that for some reason Valve half-heartedly added almost ten years after the fact,

Well that's one more cliffhanger resolved. Now where's my Megaman Legends 3, dammit?!

>>1052910 Are the space maps even canon? They were a leftover idea from a previous sci-fi version of TF2 that for some reason Valve half-heartedly added almost ten years after the fact, those that are 100% what if are the vs Saxton maps >>1052915 the link between the classic saga and x, the elf wars, I can only say... AS I LIKE TO BE A RESIDENT EVIL FAN, THANK YOU CAPCOM FOR KEEPING THE FRANCHISE ALIVE

The comic was written by Eric Walpow.

Intrigued by these mythical mercs.

>>1052927 That world provides for many adventures of many more teams and with a lot of lore, tf3 is inevitable, we will just have to wait a decade

>>1052771 Wouldn't cause the same phenomenon as PayDay 3? <Every piece of marketable polygon down into pennies Unless they're making it exclusively for the Steam game console or any other console, because TF2 for Xbox and PS3 definitely needs a sequel in which you can swap from third person to first person now that Paladins and Overwatch shat the bed and sunk every opportunity to the fill that gap. >>1052864 >Yet they won't reveal Pyro's face, only the Spy's >>1052927 That's definitely Quakeguy on the left, the one on the right side looks like the fanmade class: The Agent, the guy with the bazooka might a reference to Day of Defeat? That game set the foundations for TF2.

>>1052864 It may not be a consistent or well planned ending, but it is at least a heartfelt one and one that ain't complete dogshit. As we've seen over the years with other media, that's a helleva lot better than what could've been.

>Valve just resolved TF2's storyline after all these years Between this, Deadlock, and the Steam Deck, Valve really has come out of their shell in recent years. Do you think the rumors are true, that they're actually making the big one?

>>1052955 >that they're actually making the big one?

>>1052955 >the big one They are already making Deadlock, I doubt they are doing other projects on top of it.

>>1052864 My feelings exactly. They could not have spelled "we're done with this project and you should also move on as well" if they went in the street and shouted it from every rooftop. I guess that what's sting the most is how much more potential the actual game had that will never really be realized outside of niche communities like Uncletopia or the VSH one. Only thing I didn't like about the comic is Medic having nothing to do. At least Demoman has a few panels. >>1052906 I'm sure they retconned a ton of stuff, this is a 7 year too late ending to the story. But the parallel to the forever-war status of TF2 as a game and the excuse plot just to keep it going makes sense - the only reason to keep fighting is for the fighting itself and no real objective.

>>1052880 Probably won't unless you're a long time fan. Lost interest in tf2 a while back myself. Still, I find endings sad more often than not.

What's your top three favorite video game comics, /v/?

>>1053012 >My feelings exactly. They could not have spelled "we're done with this project and you should also move on as well" if they went in the street and shouted it from every rooftop. I'll keep playing it until i'm dead.

>>1052906 I think the Administrator's story, best depicted by the cover image(s), is that her parents (maybe her grandparents as well or maybe her replacement guardians, etc) were effected by the Mann family's greed. Either they got caught in the crossfire of the wars the Mann family had waged with themselves while trying to get "the perfect heir" or maybe her parents were involved in some other way. I dont really have an explanation for why she appears to be at the same age in all three pictures and is surrounded by dead bodies of people wearing apparently different clothing. But in the last picture you can see they were apparently manufacturing weapons and took poison together, presumably at the horror of whatever they were doing. We do know whatever beef she had with Zepheniah was revealed to him on his deathbed before he died (for the first time) in one sentence or so. She did tell Zeph when she took on the job that she doesn't know him, but that could have been a lie, not to mention how she seemed super eager to get the job and rushed in on her own. Oddly enough, I don't feel like I 'need' to know why she did it exactly, only that it was some kind of form of revenge in mind. Only thing we don't really have an answer on is why blu and red each had the same mercenaries, but for all we know in the Red team had the mercs we're familiar with and Blu had some other rejects. I really don't know if they even want to answer that one.

>>1053110 > but for all we know in the Red team had the mercs we're familiar with and Blu had some other rejects Outside of the elephant in the room that is the ´´MEET THE TEAM´´, the comics make it more than explicit that there is only one team of mercenaries for each generation, which suggests that both mercenaries take turns, that's why everyone calls Red and Blu are their bosses, that's why in the post MvM comics Scout and Spy remember the events of the comic where they kill Old Nick but they are Blu, that's why in the MvM comic update everyone They dress in mixed clothes, and that's why the engi wears blue in all these comics, besides the fact that several times it is said that they killed each other, there is only 1 team, TEAM FORTRESS >>1053185 What the hell are you talking about?

>>1053230 Ignore it, it's some new retarded namefaggot who has been using the subject field to namefag.

>>1053233 Piccolo Daimao > Cell > Moro > Frieza > Gas > Zamasu > Buu > Jiren I'm not counting Beerus, Jr, Broly, Hit, or Vegeta since they're technically not villains in the traditional sense

>>1053233 medic ultra ego >>>>>> DB verse

I really liked this ending, happiness for all our boys.

>>1053254 Who are you quoting?

>>1053110 I think the three different tragic backstories are representative of the administrator slowly forgetting why she's seeking vengeance.

>>1053270 That makes sense

Can anyone recommend a good .cbr reader? I'm using Icecream Ebook Reader at the moment but it keeps stalling for 10 seconds and wants me to subscribe to a live service for a fucking ereader.

>>1053270 I like that explanation >>1053334 SumatraPDF is FOSS, I use it personally.

>>1053334 Mcomix. It handles double page reading really well.

>>1053369 >>1053374 Thanks anons. I didn't know Sumatra did .cbr

Did scouts mom die? She wasn't at the Smissmas dinner.

>>1053032 It makes no sense to me, from an in-universe perspective, why they would call themselves "Team Fortress". Is there something I missed here? It has been years since I read the comics.

>>1053477 There were other teams named in the comic such as Team Ajax, Team Citadel, and Team Echelon. All killed by the Classic mercs.

>>1053334 CDisplay EX is by far my favorite .cbr reader and I've tried like half a dozen at this point.

>>1053510 >Team Ajax >Team Citadel >Team Echelon Considering the 4 teams mode made its debut in TFC called "murderball", maybe those were the names of green and yellow teams? The comics easily set the foundations for many spinoffs, but then: Valve won't do dick, more polygon slop instead of innovating.

>>1053110 Pretty much this. In the game it doesn't really matter why you're blowing up a rocket launching facility or why you're taking briefcases full of documents conveniently placed in opposing buildings. The Administrator having revenge for the sake of revenge is entirely within the logic of the world of TF2. EVERYONE in the universe but the mercs wants a forever war because it's the only way they have any agency in the world around them. In fact, the mercs and Pauling are the only ones who are capable of breaking the cycle because, on the one hand, half of them are too retarded to understand the implications of their actions, and on the other hand the smarter guys want an exit option. It's telling that the Engineer is the only one who does not participate in any of this besides working on the side as the tard wrangler for the Administrator. >>1053230 Since we know that both RED and BLU employ a variety of workers and mercenaries, it's not impossible to think that in-lore/comic, the main 9 guys are just killing random no-name characters filling their roles, while in-game this is depicted as identical versions of each other. Also don't forget that the Meet the Team films in-universe are supposed to be propaganda/publicity stunts made by RED to try and hire more people. It's likely that the main 9 mercs are just moonlighting/dressing up as incompetent BLU mercenaries, and special effects / the Medigun just takes care of the gory bits.

Guess I'll reinstall TF2 and try a few match.

>>1053576 >Pointless war must keep going <Just to build the world's most profitable business I get it, but they should've gone retconning the game's unanswered questionable logic features. You sort of answered the question on why they're fighting themselves in different colors but how do you explain the duplicates in the same team? Not to mention there's official artwork recognizing such jarring logic even in the animated Meet The series also alluded that, specially in the Meet The Medic video where a fuckton of soldiers are chasing down the medic's hospital. Other thing that could easily have its own comic is how they're brought back from the death while keeping their memories intact, but I guess the closest thing is to an answer is Emesis Blue

>>1054055 It's theorized their DNA and various scans used to revive them have been stolen/shared by both sides so many times and for so long that mid match both sides can revive/spawn all of the characters. Then after the end of the days rounds, the duplicates are removed and the originals just return to their bases.

>>1053716 Yeah, I've tried that as well. Its a mixed experience to say the least, and not because of bots but because there are too many 1000 hour veterans pub-stomping. Its why I stopped playing TF2 7 years back. Most matches are unevenly balanced with one side filled with glowing hats with thousands of hours, and the other largely filled with new players or those with less than 100 hours. And the outcome is always what you'd expect What's worse than losing matches is that you can't even have fun while you're losing. You'll scarcely get more than one kill before dying yourself, unless you're already one of those veteran players I tried changing my settings, practicing, all the autistic shit, but no matter how much you practice or how much you play, there's no "getting good" enough to scale that mountain. I guess there's just no point in playing PvP games unless you're there from day one.

>>1054356 >What's that? You want more faggy cosmetics by the cucks at TF2 Emporium?

>>1053477 >>1053510 Quite.

>>1054356 As someone with 3k hours in it, you just have to put the hours in. I picked up apex this year and it took about 400 hours to start winning often enough against randoms, but I dropped it because unlike that game I can play casually in tf2 with a silly loadout and still win. Most teams fail because of team composition for the game mode, an engineer for teleporters to cut down long walks and medic for keeping people alive with crossbow uber to break chokepoints. The only unfair thing about the game is you need to modify your config files to do extremely well, like right click pulls out my secondary weapon as soldier instead of scroll wheel or 2. A guy on jewtube called Woolen Sleevelet made the one I still use today and a long video explaining it, with a few modifications I haven't kept track of. If you want to make friends just queue exclusively for powerhouse until you find one with an argument over something retarded, this means the teams are evenly matched. The map either rolls over in 5 minutes or you hold back them feeding into your team for 10-120 minutes. Lastly, most people don't have enough mousepad to aim properly at lower sensitivity, and the hitscan weapons do a lot better if you don't miss, so use soldier and aim at feet if that doesn't work out.

>>1054356 This, but also even if a game comes out TODAY I know I can't keep up with it due to a job and other life obligations taking too much time, pitting me against those with less obligations who just focus it hard every day I would fall behind, and it would just feel worse as time goes on.

>>1053257 The TF2 mercs are probably the most solid characters in videogame history. And I don't exactly mean 'well developed' or anything, but that it's a perfect application of the KISS principle to the basic concept (visual, voice, playstyle, everything) of each character, and then giving a wacky twist on the actual details. Instead of blood type you get that Pyro is so insane he practically lives in an alternate reality, or something. All of them are unhinged lunatics you probably don't want rolling around in civilized society, but that's the charm. How it will age onwards will be interesting. Will TF2 survive another generation? Is it going to just be a timeless game? (obviously not) I think it has stayed relevant longer than even Quake has. >>1054426 That's probably why "low-stakes" co-op live service games are getting so much traction. If I have an hour a day to play, I'd rather get in a game of W40k Space Marine, Helldivers 2, or Deep Rock Galactic than stress out playing some dogshit MOBA. Monster Hunter Wilds will be a huge success because of that. Depends on how they handle it's aspects. There's a growing market of gamers (read: wagies) who don't have time in the day, and can't spend two weeks of their life grinding out a game to get to a reasonable level.

>>1054429 All 3 of those co-op games also don't need more money to unlock more gameplay. Same for plenty of others.

>>1054429 People already say its dead.

>>1054464 Which is fucking stupid, casual gamers consider anything that doesn't pull League or CoD numbers "dead". Nothing in the Steam top 500 should be considered dead.

haha

>>1053260 my error >>1053474 >Did scouts mom die nope, They already said that she is still alive >>1053477 The real question is if the classic team called themselves TEAM FORTRESS. If so, Ms P saying "WE ARE TEAM FORTRESS2 " is only to highlight that they are the team now. >>1053576 As I already said, that will always be the elephant in the room, we can say that the meet the team are all acted, but there are more points in favor that show that there are only 9 mercenaries, you never see others, when the sniper arrives to work in In that comic you only see the usual ones, and most importantly, they are known as THE TEUFORT 9 >>1054055 In the prelude to the comics they tell you very clearly, the game is a dramatization, so it is not 100% faithful to the events that happened, suggesting why there may be duplicate characters on both teams, in addition to the fact that it can be played with 12 members, when in the canon there were only 9 people who took turns as a team

>>1054518 canon

>>1054518 >>>/deviantart/

>>1054407 Makes sense that the TFC mercs were just as much of a threat as the TF2 mercs. After all, we played them, as well

>>1054424 Any loadout advice?

>>1054518 IN the suit, by the way.

>>1054529 >>1054578 I posted more on /vb/ >>>/vb/7093 >>1054543 More true than you realize :^)

>>1054576 Engineer, use the eureka effect for a week. Faster teleporter setup, you can pilfer metal easily, swap to any other primary if you want widowmaker or frontier justice or rescue ranger, and warp to sapped teleporters. Just hold the wrangler and run away from ubers so they waste time killing it as well. Medic, use the crossbow as it's faster for healing than even the quick fix, making medigun or kritzkeig the best options. Pyro can run basically anything, I like backburner with detonator jumping as the airblast penalty is mitigated by corpse ammo. Scout just use stock, spy just use stock but you can use lentranger or diamondback with spysicle if you're trying to sap teleporter entrances at the enemy spawn. Soldier can use anything but the original/stock with banners and the whip are what I often use, the shotgun is good too and the cow mangler can disable teleporters and dispensers as an uncommon useful interaction. Demoman use stock, hold right click and use stickies until you get used to it, but all of his weapons are usable. Heavy use tomislav, sandvich, gloves of running urgently. Sniper does good with any rifle you're comfortable descoping often with, piss melee combo or stock smg for other slots.

>>1054596 Eureka effect is a terrible wrench for starter engineers. Have him use the Jag or Mini sentry first. Better for quick builds which means if they get destroyed for bad positioning, he can just build them again quickly with little disruption. Good positioning for an engineer isn't solely learned by playing as Engineer but also by playing against Engineers (good ones). Take note of what the sentry range is and where it would be most effective at denying an area to an enemy or creating/holding a chokepoint. Since the jag and gunslinger allow for quick building, you don't have to worry about repositioning your buildings often like you would with a stock wrench or eureka effect, especially if you don't own the Wrangler - which by the way, is a rather advanced Engineer item but really great for defense moreso than it ever is good for offense. Use it quickly if you notice your sentry is in trouble of being picked off by a distant soldier or demoman.

>>1054596 >Urethra Effect Only if you get bored or just being an asshole, placing your turret in places nobody expects can be much worse than dealing against a demoman.

>>1054620 I wrote a lot of spaghetti but it's easier to say yeah pretty much. Anon seemed to lament higher level players and that's how I beat teams with parties of 6 in casual pushing me with spies and ubers when it feels like my team would lose without me and we already have a medic. >>1054632 There are better classes for killing that way, but with a teleporter up it's often fair game due to boredom in some matches. Wrangler jumping to nest on high ground is fun too.

DOS EQUIPOS SON, UNO ROJO OTRO AZUL PELEANDO POR UN OBJETIVO COMÚN

>>1052824 Are those his children or did he just adopted them? Considering the Scout got bastardized as the numale who'll do anything just to feel the touch of a woman. >>1054660 Sodoamericans finally caught up with TF2, but then their socialist shitholes forbid them to evolve.

>>1055467 His children with several different women.

>>1055467 >Sodoamericans finally caught up with TF2, but then their socialist shitholes forbid them to evolve. ¿what the hell are you talking about?

>>1055528 Some mystery meat chilean has been farming clickbait videos about TF2 while promoting those sites where you gamble away your virtual items and he's super fucking progressive, most of his shit is just him browsing fucking reddit. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Re_rugpxS1E A spic edition version of the other e-celeb e-cuck who also browses reddit in a desperate attempt to gain views at Jewtube now that TF2 has shit the bed and put on life support years ago.

>>1054620 >Offensive Wrangler the 75 (?) % damage reduction on sentry is always good, even on mini sentry (as long as you have sightlines)

>>1055529 >Some mystery meat chilean Say no more, the Coldespot https://www.youtube.com/@coldest9346 The most famous Spanish-speaking tftuber currently is not controversial per se, but he does have accusations of scamming, but it's not like he can be proven of anything either, since many hate him and would lie just to screw him over, so it's 50 % 50%, since the gringos don't like it, it sucks me an egg, in itself it is already a meme in the Latin community, half respected half meme Maybe the video you sent is a blatant piece of shit from a gringo with a burning ass, probably a disgusting chiter who supported Omegatronic, Coldest at least supported the #savetf2 movement a lot and helped by exposing the shitty hackers

>>1055541 <funko pop heavy

>>1055676 That doesn't look anything like a (((Funko Pop))) you fucking moron.

>>1055677 >soulless black eyes >giant oversized head >tiny body Actually, it's exactly the same.

>>1054632 You would be amazed how many kills even a level 1 sentry can rack up if it's slapped down in an unusual or unconventional spot that nobody expects, rather than the usual sentry spots everybody always uses. Even moreso if you're actively supporting it, rather than just sitting there turtling it.

>>1055722 Level 1 sentries are actually deadlier than minis funny enough, I still miss the days of upgradable mini sentries when the wrangler was brand new.

>>1055729 The mini sentries weren't "upgradeable"...it was a bug where you would pick up your Level 3 with a gunslinger then placed it back down, it would turn into a mini-level 3 sentry.

>>1055737 You know what I mean, shove your semantics up your asshole.

>>1055676 it´s a Pootis Hevy >>1055692 >chibi = Funko pop your logic sucks

>>1055676 >>1055692 You must be 18 to post here.

>>1055812 Since when were chibis known for soulless black eyes?

>>1055841 IT'S A FUCKING BIRD HEAD THE EYES LOOK LIKE THAT ALWAYS

>>1055858 Birds are just the Funkopops of the animal world.

>>1055860 Niggers are funko pops of the human world.

>>1055692 Anon, I...

>>1055541 >Exposing shitty hackers Well if you browse the gringo's channel, he's really upset that so many hackers have been slandered with pedophilia accusations: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=rmhD8zfX_4g >They can be the worst kind of terminal online faggots but god forbid if you labeled them as pedos However my main concern about Cooldest Poot is that he's backed by TF2Hunt, a gambling site that rigs their shit in favor of ecelebs.

>>1055864 Medic, Hevy and scout are funkopop of the TF2 world....and engi in funko game >>1055896 >Well if you browse the gringo's channel, he's really upset that so many hackers have been slandered with pedophilia accusations: that says a lot >However my main concern about Cooldest Poot is that he's backed by TF2Hunt, a gambling site that rigs their shit in favor of ecelebs. Yes, it is precisely what generates the most controversy, but hey, we Latinos don't give a damn about that (at least to me), the guy when he does live shows that "the page is safe" by betting and so on, but hey, There is also Zhain who does the same and Coldest hates him.

>>1055541 >>1055878 >>1055812 >>1055858 HEAVY IS BEST BIRB

play hadal

>>1055920 >holy "from mount paran" from habbakuk against holy spirit from new testament

Lead developer for TF3 here. As some of you may know, we at valve prefer to only make sequels that innovate in some fashion instead of making sequels for the sake of making sequels, hence why we didn’t make a new half-life game until be tech was good enough to do so. Sadly, due to spending years doing sweet FA, our creative faculties have become emaciated and after making deadlock we’re all outta ideas. As such, we’re turning to obscure mongolian pottery carving web forms for inspiration. Please propose how you would design Team Fortress 3 If you don’t come up with anything good we’ll have to rip off marvel rivals

>>1056130 Make it like splatfests where the 6 teams in >>1054407 are mirror matchups except for 1% of the time. Like the team fortress members only fight other team fortress members in the setting's traditional badlands, and a 50% chance that it's an away match on a different map setting or home match that 1%, so metafags don't all cluster onto one team.

>>1056130 Tell valve to fix the god damn VAC system, it has been months since the 64bit udpate and VAC still kicks linux players for the vague reason that "an issue with your system is preventing VAC from working" apparenlty this has been an ongoing issue with CS:GO for YEARS, so they must have brought TF2's VAC to parity with CS:GO and there is zero solutions

>>1056130 Bring back the YLW and GRN teams for one. Not present on every map, but sorta how TF2C handles it where certain maps allow for them to show up every once in a while Now the next innovation would be fully dynamic hitboxes which correspond to what a character is wearing, as well as how they move and where their vitals are located. You can keep it cartoony, but something like Darktide how metal parts on a character's body will make the bullet bounce off harmlessly. Make flak armor actually contain explosions. Make blood drip from enemies whenever they are hit on bare flesh. Make normal guns capable of headshots as well, where applicable. Make cosmetic usage detrimental to the user when they sacrifice protection for fashion.

>>1056187 TF2 actually does have programming for dynamic hitboxes (see Headshots, but each body part's hitbox actually does correspond to the player animation and hit locations).

>>1056130 Make the new entry based on the defunct teams or the first ever mercenaries during the wild west era? Pretty sure the last issue confirms the current TF2 mercenaries are the last generation, so why not a prequel, interquel or coquel to both entries?

>>1056130 In the vain hopes that this is legit not fucking likely, but a man can dream you have a few ideas already floating around; Wild-West Era teams. The actually amazing teams that were hinted at in the comic, not the failures that we played as during TF2. With all the robot shit that happened, an actual future human/robot war, or human loyalist/rebel robots warring against each other because of some mangled version of Asimov's three laws, this time with actually good form instead of looking like barely functional piles of scrap bouncing around pretending to be human. Or the Australium got found a few technological epochs later after it was dumped in the ocean, and the research continues, this time more focused its passive benefits rather than consuming it en masse to keep motherfuckers alive far past any legitimate reason to continue. Hopefully with less rainbow hair and more actually high technology bullshit like energy shields and particle accelerator weapons, or plasma cannons, you know, the good FUN shit that everyone fucking ignores and for no good goddamn reason.

>>1055920 yeah >>1056130 FEMALE CLASSES, it's what we've wanted for years, me, those who play pokemon and choose a female avatar, the few women who play the game, the shitty trannies, and those who love SFM porn, WE NEED BOOBS IN A TF3

>>1056302 If this is a joke, you've gone too far and you know it. Any inch towards femininity is a loss at this point, give those degenerates in your post absolutely zero validation.

>>1056303 Please anon, don't be a faggot, a self-respecting man plays with a female avatar in games, tell me it's a joke and that you don't think that way >so Well, if Valve puts more fucking servers on the continent, it's fine when I play alone, but when I play with friends from other northern countries the server always comes out from either Peru or Virginia, although at least that problem was partially solved and happy new year guys

>>1056308 Nigger it is a functional requirement at this point. Let them bitch and moan because that's all they'll do but give them even the slightest shred of validation and they'll run so hard with it that the hardest acid trip couldn't match whatever the fuck nightmare they've dreamed up. Fuck them. Fuck them all.

>>1056309 I would like to be able to play with a Fem Soldier without having to play fucking TF2C with its shitty servers full of lag, also, the female classes were already a concept, unfortunately they were not in the final product, maybe they didn't want controversy with seeing women hurting themselves or guys killing them if you could change class while playing, but hey, when a tf3 comes out in...I don't know, 2037, I hope they put them in

How about wall turrets?

>>1056302 Make sure to include pride unusual effects that cover the entire screen in rainbow particles each time you get a kill too.

>>1055812 >pic with different proportions Proving me right. >>1055836 And you must be 18 to obsess over a meme cosmetic ;^) >>1055878 If look real closely at the bird's eyes you'll notice the lack of deadened plastic sheen.

>>1056312 >seeing women hurting themselves I think seeing women getting brutally murdered might cause a taboo impact compared to men's, much like with cartoon slapstick: They'd end up catering the sexual fantasies of some group of people that could potentially taint the IP's image.

>>1056524 Tf2’s cartoony giblets are hardly guro-material.

>>1056359 no, how fucking disgusting >>1056380 you became too obsessed with the image of a jewtuber >>1056524 That's what I thought, although tf2 has some gore, it's still caricatured, but hey, the protagonists are male, although we know that in that world there are female mercenaries, and the strongest thing we could see is the hevy's sister cutting her >>1056541 funny shit

>>1056541 >>1056542 Doesn't matter. You are not "allowed" to harm or even kill a woman in media the same way that you would kill men. Doesn't matter how "cartoonish" it happens. If you don't believe me, tell me which "effects" you more: the first (Or even the second pic if you need a "direct" comparison) or the third pic?

>>1052771 Games Valve turned into whale milking machines via item system and cash shop don't get sequels. TF2 isn't getting a sequel. Dota 2 isn't getting a sequel. CSGO got a sequel but it was more like an upgrade since they fucking deleted the original game.

>>1056302 Alot of people don't want female characters because it'll just devolve into being like other shooters where everyone's trying to out-whore each other. What makes TF2 different is that fact that it's all men,and their base outfits aren't sexual at all. There's some newer community made items which arguable could be sexual, but that's not base game. TF2 wasn't made for the lewd, and females would ruin that.

>>1056548 In case I don't like gore or teenagers who think they're edgy and watch videos like that, of course, gore works in stories that require it, like in resident evil, or in some anime, and like in this cartoon mercenary game where they explode when they receive criticism, but when it's just gratuitous gore to enjoy seeing how someone suffers, it makes me repulsive, those images make me sick, all 3 >>1056568 > because it'll just devolve into being like other shooters where everyone's trying to out-whore each other. I don't know, I only play tf2 >What makes TF2 different is that fact that it's all men,and their base outfits aren't sexual at all. I said female classes, not a generic sexualized character, outside of that beta design of the fem soldier with wide hips, what other mercenary do you think is sexualized? I think none >There's some newer community made items which arguable could be sexual, but that's not base game It is as you say, simply cosmetics that are made by the community, but of course, in a hypothetical TF3, although there would be jerks who model naked, the workshop will not allow that >TF2 wasn't made for the lewd, and females would ruin that. ok, and? Sonic doesn't either, thousands of games either, and not to mention cartoons for children, but if R34 already bothers you it's another thing, adding more female classes of course it would generate more porn, but you won't deny everything that already exists either, and don't be so puritan, more female characters would not ruin a possible tf3, nor do I ask that they all be black trans people with colored hair and be a concord 2.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvVdFXOFcjw

>>1056568 I thought not wanting female characters with sexual outfits was woke?

>>1056603 You're an illiterate twat, anon doesn't want female characters, period.

>>1056548 Your images are objectively disgusting, but both faggot images are more disgusting.

>>1056548 All drawn by women.

Actually in the first image of >>1054407 there are two female mercenaries already canonical, they just couldn't fine any incompetent enough to put in team fortress.

>>1056548 Are they okay?

>>1056687 Yeah, it would be weird to put a female character’s period in a game.

>>1056572 >adding females to a exclusively male group won't ruin it Bet you're ok with girls in the Boy Scouts and female priests

>>1056603 I don't want female playable characters in the game period, they aren't needed and would only lead to decay. If people want to have mods and custom servers that's up to them, but the base game should be female free. Want to play as females in the base game? Go play Overwatch/Paladins/Marvel Rivals/etc.

why are you so afraid of women, anons

>>1056765 I'm not because I'm not gay

>>1056765 Because women are woke, DEI, etc >t. neo-/v/

>>1056312 This is dumb They should make em all Kawaii anime grills And add weird classes as Gacha And pack it all up as a dating sim yeah.....

>>1056603 a game without women sounds gay honestly >>1056724 They go to fucking extremes, one thing is having playable female characters, another is wanting menstruation to be a mechanic >>1056760 ¿? If you are referring to a game I don't understand it, but, In Latin America there are no girl scouts, and nuns are common, your point is? >>1056764 >Go play Overwatch/Paladins/Marvel Rivals/etc. This is a TF2 thread with a hypothetical talk about TF3, if I wanted to play those games I would play them, and I don't want to >>1056780 You need to be of legal age to post on this chan, go to sleep, you will surely have school tomorrow

>>1056845 >¿? ah

>>1056542 They definitely pulled out the: >Men have sense of humor and can roll with the punches >>1056603 Sexualized token whores used for waifubait are the equivalent of Jim Crow to women: >Missing the point so badly to think it's a dehumanizing mockery Bear in mind blackface was used as a protest due to lack of shitskins in Pedowoods films, while strong independent sluts are supposed to showcase that women can be the protagonists who refuse to give up while retaining their femininity and beauty. >>1056708 They're pretty sadistic psychopaths, seriously, terminal online dykes tend to draw some real nasty shit that could make DeviantArt's fetish shit look normal in comparison. >>1056765 I just hate bad designs.

>>1056951 >Men have sense of humor and can roll with the punches Who does that remind me of?

>>1056765 They always push for the shittiest changes to games, and their only value is their body. With that in mind, why not just jerk it before playing games so it's out of your system.

>>1054424 What about mouse settings? Sensitivity, dpi and all that shit?

>>1057276 Funny, I was going to write about it and other stuff but it was too wordy. Personally I use sensitivity .2 at 3000 dpi. I like centimeters per 360 as a better measurement, look at a corner and see if you can do a 360 on your mousepad to look at the corner again. Between 25-40 is pretty good for tf2, there isn't an answer but you should get a mousepad large enough to try a handful for weeks at a time. It's difficult to get used to, but glass is a good mousepad material for less drag if you can afford it. I did alright with 8,000 dpi at sensitivity 2-5 before I made the switch though, just that I can aim hitscan weapons now.

>>1056845 My only problem with Mimi sentry's design is that the hair doesn't look mechanical at all, whereas every other part of her does.

So where are the servers where you can actually play as a team instead of random pub nonsense?

>>1058009 "Pub nonsense" is what made this game, kys nigger

>>1058062 >unironically defending nutf2’s public servers.

>>1058009 look up highlander tf2 teams to join, or if you don't want competitive play join uncletopia servers

>>1058173 Community servers (i.e. what people were raised on in TF2 before matchmaking) must be distinguished apart from casual/competitive servers that the MyM update brought along. Community servers used to be the heart and soul keeping TF2 alive and prospering with new maps and game modes. Now it's been reduced to a niche subset because all of the players prefer the convenience that the casual button provides.

>>1057259 You have a point, but the topic only came up because I wanted to play with female characters, not because I wanted hyper-busty girls. >>1057276 sometimes that shit gets ugly >>1057323 moldable plastic, that simple

>>1056970 This drawing? >>1058187 I'll never understand why 2fort is the only map that managed to gain servers just to fuck around with disabled ways to win a match, what about the other CTF maps? Fucking doublecross is getting rarer everyday to find.

>>1058256 That mouse is super cool! I genuinely like it

Just as this thread was about to slip off the catalog, the bots return.

>>1070142 In Casual? Fuck. I've been meaning to play TF2C anyways. Anyone want to join me some time?

>>1070159 TF2C is still around? I remember trying to play that shit during covid lockdown and all severs were dead with only 6-7 people in them.

>>1070346 They were extremely alive 2 years ago, update 2 or 3 weeks ago added nade medigun and a civilian cane that hastens reloading, firing, and movement.

They just released TF2's source SDK. What can we expect now?

>>1072645 You can use steam to host servers without doxxing your ip, for starters.

>>1072645 I guess there's going to be a uptick of custom stuff like weapons/models/maps/mods/whatever now that it can be more tailor made to fit peoples niche. For now, i'll just guess it'll be gmod: tf2 edition.

Not sure if anyone here still actively played TF2, but this news is HUGE. Basically Valve has just released the source code for Team Fortress 2, making mods that much more interesting. They also updated the game with a bunch of fixes and features. Personally, I hope this leads to having servers that can go over 64 playable characters for maximum chaos, although I'm not a game developer/modder, so I don't really know how these things work. articles in question: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=238809 https://steamcommunity.com/games/TF2/announcements/detail/511824321138655315

>>1072645 Made a new thread for this as it's kinda huge news. >>1072658 >>1072658 >>1072658 >>1072658 >>1072658

Wasn't this already released?

>>1072658 >Zesty uploads 4 hour vid going over all of Valve's faults with TF2. >3 days later, "Break glass to release SDK". They really are just washing their hands of the game now arn't they? Finished the comic, some final bug features. Fuck it, finish it yourself.

>>1072661 Yes. it was released five hours ago. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013

Holy shit, I don't even play TF2 but I am beyond delighted. Go valve! Imagine if more companies did this.

>>1072661 You're probably thinking of the source 2013 multiplayer SDK, which doesn't have tf2-specific bits.

>>1072658 But can Valve release a good game at least once?

>>1072662 That's fine by me. This is what I've been wanting for years. Unfortunately a lot of modern players have been clinging onto Valve seeing as it's in fashion right now to dicksuck corporations, so I think TF2 essentially going open-source is going to be a transition period for them. Notably, I think this does signal that no more effort is going towards the anticheat and the "main game" is only staying up for the hats as long as people buy them. I think it's great to have some sort of closure but it's going to be up to the fans to keep the ship afloat. Given the talent present though and the presence of community figures like shounic I think the prospect isn't as hard as it seems.

>>1072658 <Fuck It, We Give Up on this Spaghetti Code Game: THE UPDATE Considering the crew behind the franchise left Valve aeons ago (save for Robin Walker who's just there greeting tourists at the building's entrance) only two or three guys who stuck around since the late 90s have the task to figure out a 18 year old enigma that is the source code. >>1072674 Let someone else do it, expect more Hunt Down the Freeman for each franchise.

Okay too bad their 64bit update effectively soft-banned me from the game on any VAC protected server. I don't outright get kicked from a server, it takes 15 minutes exactly for VAC to boot me for the vague reason "An issue with your computer has prevented VAC from working, ligma." An issue that existed for anyone on linux trying to play CS:GO and jumped onto TF2, I'm guessing they brought VAC to parity between the two. The issues have received little to no attention on either issue trackers for the games.

>>1072658 > Personally, I hope this leads to having servers that can go over 64 playable characters for maximum chaos, although I'm not a game developer/modder, so I don't really know how these things work. I remember seeing a youtube video about five years ago where they got a 100 person server operating smoothly through MASSIVE performance constraints. No hats (thereby fixing the game), lowering model polygon counts, removing visual effects, etc. This should make that even more stable.

>>1072684 The source code release proves they're never going to fix it. You know that, right? This is the prelude to TF3, which will have totally different code and therefore not be affected by the 100% perfect bots that can now exist thanks to this release.

>>1072690 Deadlock is Tf3. Accept it already.

>>1072658 are the blue scout's pants fixed?

>>1072689 yeah, & vid related should be better as well https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=BGpKmJLSmlA

>>1072706 also hopefully vid related can be fixed as well https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=OvtMFMfrV0E

Did they release the Source Engine code as well or just whatever that went on top of it?

This is an SDK, not the source code. It's tools and binaries that help you make shit, and there may possibly be open code in there but it's not the entire thing that's been open sourced, modding tools have just been updated to include more TF2 shit. But it's still good, hopefully there will be a renaissance of more cool mods.

>>1072662 But don't they still have the Heavy update they promised us years ago? No way they'll renege on that, surely?

>>1072750 Can we finally get le reddit doggo chungus amungus?

>>1072691 Deadlock is just another dead on arrival icefrog obsession that will have less than 1,000 plays in 5 years.

>>1072684 On a meme rolling distro? Downgrade glibc.

>>1072972 Nope. From the submitted issues it doesn't seem to matter the distro. Arch, Void, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Gentoo, doesn't matter the distro, and it's been occuring for years, nobody from valve will address the issue.

>>1072930 Deadlock is already basically dead right now, dude. The updates have slowed down to a crawl, the art style is embarrassing, the characters aren't particularly memorable, and it's extremely unfriendly to new players. Unlike with Dota 2, Icefrog can't depend on a dedicated fanbase like those who played Dota Allstars to migrate over and keep it at a healthy level of players. It's likely a full year out at least from getting a release, and the hype train around Deadlock already came and went. I think if they include paid cosmetics and lootboxes (which they will, let's be honest), the game will nosedive even further.

>>1072794 Hold your horses, they said: >We're not letting you to temper with the community guns, cosmetics and shit that could break the Community Market You may manipulate the base game however you want, but the rest it's up to Valve's few oldfags. >>1072863 If modders are able to dump their TF2 offshoots within the Steam store first. >>1073000 And the chinese capeshit shooter sponged all the remaining optimistic Deadcock fans, is it really hard for a million dollar company to come up with another single player campaign mode game just to showcase more of their star spangling videgame engine? Or at least release Left4Dead 3 just to be done with the franchise whose fanbase is also desperate for anything.

>>1072658 Pretty cool of them

>>1073041 > is it really hard for a million dollar company to come up with another single player campaign mode What would a single player campaign for Team Fortress 3 look like?

>>1072930 So? Valve doesn’t need to worry about money anymore.

>>1072691 Never touching Deadcock unless they get change the Nip conehead into something less aesthetically horrifying. Hero shooter devs have one job for their token Jap and it's to make him look cool and THIS ISN'T FUCKING IT.

>>1072662 >Company does an unexpected move right around the time an exposé that could completely wreck them comes out Many such cases, especially from Volvo >>1072679 TF2Ware getting the VScript treatment was not on my bingo card for this year. They really improved a lot of the jank from the older versions. >>1072691 I'm not playing anything that contains ASSFAGGOTS, e-sports bait and a gorillion stat modifiers to knowledge check new players.

>>1073968 It's quite literally a placeholder from when the game was still Neon Prime and she was an alien.

>>1073575 I mean you can pretty easily just take scouts moveset and make a "movement shooter" out of it.

>>1072691 >deadlock is tf3

>>1072706 Yes but it clashes with the retarded cosmetics instead of re-texturing each VTF piece with photoshop, they reverted it. >>1074192 The T standing for "Theseus", are they still the same developers?

lmao his servers dead already

>>1074229 He literally says they are on his own video, it's the whole issue with the lack of quickplay/hiding of the server browser crap.

Look who's here

>>1074260 Oh shit

>>1074260 Is this the same project that Valve got shit for ghosting and then sending a cease and desist letter?

>>1073968 >aesthetically horrifying Isn’t that the point?

>>1074365 No, the model is a remnant of the previous game Deadlock was going to be called Neon Prime, which was a more futuristic setting with aliens and shit, but they decided to shift themes because it looked too similar to Overwatch.

>>1074414 That image looks 100 times more readable than anything from Deadlock I've seen.

They’re more likely to make Team Fortress: The Bored Game than TF3. You know how valve is.

>>1072661 That's a human?

>>1074289 Technically that was Open Fortress, but the dev that sent the initial email was also on TF2C. It also wasn't a C&D, just a polite "If you would kindly delist your stuff we'll work out a way for you to get on steam legally" request. TF2C and OF were technically taken down but not with a threat.

>>1075334 We don't know whether or not it was a C&D. The tweet said Valve told them to take it down and they were working on an "arrangement". Then in classic Valve fashion they ghosted the projects so the developer just brought them back online and went about their business. Valve is ran by comically retarded people.

>>1075226 I CAN'T SHOOT! THEY LOOK JUST LIKE US!

>>1075341 >Valve is ran by comically retarded people. They should buy Cinemassacre/Screenwave, they have so much in common.

>>1077521 Are you that schizophrenic German guy? You bring AVGN up a lot out of nowhere, it's weird

>>1077638 You talking to me?

>>1077638 Label anyone as a schizo whoever you want, but the fact you brought up: >Valve is so incompetent to the point of hilarity Is something common with the entertainment industry once they hit the jackpot and stopped giving a shit as long they get that sweet revenue, not to mention how both companies keep their shit apolitical and still fail to appease lefties.

>>1077857 >Label anyone as a schizo whoever you want, No, I mean he's literally a schizophrenic, or so he says. He's the big furry Linux nerd who posts Renamon. >but the fact you brought up: I'm not the guy you were replying to sorry

https://offshore.teamfortress.community/ I believe this may be officially recognized. https://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=news It was posted about in the News section of the TF2 blog and is very much unlike what they usually post there (tournament news and charity shit) Since the summer 'update' is around the corner, it just seems a little coincidental.

>>1082467 Big may. Even with the very few new things they’ve put out recently, it’s still not enough to make me hope for anything from them, especially not TF2. Which is sad because the community is doing all the work here and all they’d have to do is push a button, but valve are just that lazy. It will talk more that a few twitches to make me think the Fatman is ready to walk again.

>>1074260 How about absorb all popular mods into one and call it a day? Save for Lambda Fortress, that one is a can of worms on its own that could easily shatter any other source code. >>1082467 Just a few cosmetic and taunts as usual, the trannies fighting each other over who's getting all the credit was more fun than whatever microtransaction slop they've been shitting out.

>>1082540 >filename embarrassing

>>1073000 >Icefrog can't depend on a dedicated fanbase like those who played Dota Allstars to migrate over and keep it at a healthy level of players. Why don't they just copy popular warcraft 3 maps and make new games there is plenty,hell they could make Uther Party into it's own game

>>1082552 IceFrog wants something substantial he can call his own. Valve is giving him the budget and the team for it, clearly. He already tried making Dota Auto Chess into a standalone game. That's old hat now.

>>1074260 Can't wait for not having to add like three different layers just to play vanilla tf2 again

it's so fucking over. i hope some /tf2g/ refugees sees this thread

>>1093504 HOLY BASED BUMP

>>1093504 (OP) There is already a TF2 thread in the catalog, check the catalog >>1072658

>>1093635 that one's been dead for a month now, and it doesn't have the /tf2g/ pasta honestly i got confused if i should use that thread or just make a new one

play powerhouse

>>1093765 Generally speaking, if a thread isn't anchored it's board etiquette here to bump it to avoid duplicate topics, which unfortunately have been abounding because of all the cuckchan newfags flooding the board. >>1093578 >>1093594 >>1093778 These three posts also stick out like a sore thumb compared to board culture here. There is no need to chatroom post or templatepost given we encourage substance, not just bumping a thread to keep it from sliding off. It's much like posting soundless videos here when we have support for video with sound. Please take a moment to look around more.

i have done nothing but get high and play custom mode servers and fap

>>1093504 I'm going to invite /mlptf2/

>>1093812 pretty sure I said to play powerhouse a month or two ago in the other thread :^)

>>1093967 So you fags came here

>>1094050 Nah we have our own site I've just been crossposting since forever

>>1094094 On ponychan?

>>1094112 /mlpol/ feel free to join the fun

>>1094122 But that's a board not a site anon...

>>1093504 This place is filled with trannies. I hate it here man with no pee pee is an eunuch according to the chink novels I hear so much about

>>1094248 wtf, I love trannies now

>>1094166 >only one pic per post Cringe. >>1094248 Where do you see those trannies?

japanese doujin horses>plastic matel ponies

>>1094266 You reminded me of all thise weird ass doujins

>>1094258 Presumably in this thread (not me, by the way, in case you wanted to jump to that teenager line of thought).

>>1094281 Ok then.

>>1094258 >only one pic per post sometimes you really only need one pic also if you mean the site actually its 5pics >>1094266 mareholic is fine too

>>1093504 >>1093967 Welcome friends

That's three threads merged now. I suggest you guys read through the whole thing to get a good idea of how to conduct yourselves.

ETERNAL REMINDER TO IGNORE AND DISREGARD YOUTUBERS THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND ARE HUGE FAGGOTS WHO CRY AT THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF DISSIDENTING OPINION

Should I buy $80 worth of keys or hats?

>>1094982 even Uncle Dane?

>hasn't been a TF2 general on 8chan in years >first one in forever gets over a hundred posts in a day Huh And the mods merged my old thread >>1052756 into this one, I am going to sue Mark for this transgression.

Oh wait there haven't been hundreds of posts, those are all just posts from the old thread. Mods why did you merge this, that's just going to confuse people.

>>1095032 what are you gonna use the keys or hats for?

>>1095032 Buy yourself a prop instead https://www.propfortress.com/

>>1105488 I genuinely would own one of these if I could

>>1114338 I somehow spent a little over a grand two weeks ago buying a bunch of shit from that site. I regret nothing.

>>1095068 especially uncle dane

>>1105488 I have a sudden urge to buy these for some reason. They should make and sell TF2 hats too.

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>>1115728 Thank you Alpha I might play tonight

i have come to the conclusion that the overdose is actually good, and a perfectly viable alternative to the crossbow. (albeit still not quite as good).

>>1119596 its good for survival but the burst range healing of the crossbow is too good to pass up. i keep saving scouts or soldiers who over commit ,many times

We playin TF2 right now https://8chan.tv/view/25c2fcb5-1fa2-4bb6-a15f-20c21e57b3c0/ come join, we're on REDchanit vscript

Demofloyd won FilterGOD /qa/ won Dotsy lost Discordgroomers lost Tranime posters lost Gooners lost Jannies lost

>>1114395 Photos?

>>1128512 They haven't shipped yet. The guy is custom making each one. I will post some pics when they arrive, though.

>>1125016 George Floyd is so zesty...

Still radio silence from anyone at valve on why some linux users just get fucking booted from VAC protected servers since the 64bit update, with the vague message "an issue with your system has prevented VAC from working properly" and last I tried to play the vulkan renderer was still broken, crashing the display driver entirely so to even play for the 15 minutes it takes for VAC to decide it isn't working can only be done with the opengl fallback.

>>1125016 zased I thought we'd regroup on the gem site since it makes dotsoi seethe, but this is fine too

>>1095068 >uncle Dane This giant cocksucker is probably the textbook cancer that embodies youtubers <uses his giant following to influence the game until Valve no longer cares lol <suggests TF2 to be more """""""""""""comp-focused""""""""""" <defends a fucking parachute to be nerfed into the ground because >muh comps and >muh trickle down balance <defends Valve again like the dickrider he is for the MyM update >makes a few popular Vanilla community servers during the bot crisis <which he ruins by forcing comp-lite rules on it and most importantly (but unrelated to TF2) is that <a giant idubbbz knoblicker who does things like record shitty podcasts for the Jomhas for free

I'm working on a TF2 SDK mod and I needed anons with experience with 3D modeling, 3d animations, and programmers so we can finish this mod faster, so is there any good alternatives to discord so I can put a limited time public invitation link here?

are the killing gloves of boxing terrible or am i just really bad at using them?

>>1184023 you're trying to get melee kills as the slowest class in the game

>not even the ritualposters bothered coming here yep i'm waiting for /vg/ to return

>>1190797 goes to show that most posters were redditors

Im finally getting into the game 15 years too late, I always thought it was just some silly mindless game but it actually seemingly has a very high skill ceiling. Any tips? I'm really liking Scout, using scattergun and pretty boy and hamshank Is ranked still a thing?

>>1196947 just go play causal and play various game modes if you feeling good try out the community servers for custom maps or gamemodes.

>>1196947 >Is ranked still a thing Never was, at least officially. The scene is entirely grassroots and when Valve "attempted" (half-assed) it, it permanently soured the general playerbase on it entirely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHtmqtsRi3I >Any tips? For Scout specifically, he's the best 1v1 class in the game, but also map dependent. Short of sentries and cracked Snipers there's not much that you can't overcome. Never play fair, and only commit to fights where you have an advantage. Soldiers are usually depending on splash damage to hit you so try to jump unpredictably, the good ones can nail you with an air shot if you're not careful Demoman is ez kill if you're up in his face, either harass him or don't engage if he's in mid range spamming stickies A Heavy revved up can delete you, otherwise he's too fat dumb and ugly to do anything if you catch him off guard (bonus points if you can sweep his medic before he notices anything) Scout mirror is pure skill and ego, they're also pretty easy players to tilt, so if you get in their heads they'll either back off or rage hack Target medics, loners, and weakened players. If you can sneak past the enemy and they have an engineer take out any teleporters to cripple them Use your pistol to clean up kills or pepper sentries from afar Always taunt after dominations for max salt mining

>>1196947 basically never take fair fights. only fight someone when you know you can win. Use your movement to be really hard to hit >is ranked still a thing official "ranked" is shit. nobody plays it https://newbie.tf/ join newbie mixes this friday 9pm eastern. Your entire job as scout is shoot soldiers out of the sky for 30 minutes like it's duck hunt. it's honestly really fun stuff idk where you go if you're not in north america

>>1196947 Protect the support classes, control high ground, look for 1v1s, cleanup kills in ubers, pressure the objective, deny bombing soldiers, and draw as much attention as possible annoying the enemy team. Scout is the DM god and you should use your mobility to pick your fights. Don't hold W at the enemy team like a bot, stay at a distance chipping them down and go in for the kill when they're distracted/low on health/need to reload/etc. Large open areas with lots of props to jump on is where scout wants to be. Choke points are death. Loadout doesn't really matter. Scout has a lot of good unlocks. I run stock/stock/atomizer in pubs. I've needed pistol's 3 extra bullets to finish off a heavy or sentry far more times than I've been saved by PBPP's heal but they're both excellent choices.

anyone else look at things like this and just think about how everyone high up in comp is a huge cunt, look at that scout and soldier

>>1105488 >orange ends on guns ruined, imagine a little metal scattergun that functioned

>>1201275 The orange parts can be removed, but I agree it is lame. They made it that way so that it is 'cosplay convention safe' >>1199941 In my experience, the pistol is just not very good for offense when it does so little damage and requires you to be in the line of fire of enemies who most likely have weapons that can hit you at a similar range, and since Scout has far less HP than everyone else, you lose those interactions far more often than you win them. For that reason, I have always favored the Mad Milk or Cleaver for scout - tending towards the former. It's actually not very commonly good for restoring your OWN health since you have very little of it anyways, but moreso for restoring your teammates' health (by throwing it on enemies in a chokepoint which will increase your teammates' resolve for taking a risk and pushing against enemies since they know they'll heal off of the mad milk enough to mitigate a good chunk of damage). In addition to that, it's absolutely invaluable for extinguishing yourself from fire which is more often than not going to be lethal in any extended pyro engagement as scout, even if the pyro only gets a few licks of damage against you or a lucky flare gun shot, the afterburn will either leave you at very low health or zero health. Extinguishing that right away after disengaging or after killing a pyro will save your life many times over. In addition, I ALWAYS use the Wrap Assassin since it's essentially what the pistol accomplishes but better (except against buildings, which Scouts should only rarely be expected to take out anyways even in the best circumstances). It's great for ranged harassment and allows you to GTFO quickly without exposing yourself too much. It crits very easily due to distance alone, which can easily halve the health of any enemy with even a modest health pool. It does reduced damage, but really, as a Scout you shouldn't be melee'ing ANYONE unless you're in a clusterfuck close quarters fight. Stock scatterFUN is the best weapon for any situation, though I occasionally use the Force A Nature for maps that have tight corridors or chokepoints. I hate the Force a Nature since it basically prevents you from dodging as Scout. I personally like to dodge by jumping around and over enemies, especially heavies, but that won't be possible if the Force stalls you in mid-air because you shot the gun while jumping. Scattergun is excellent at close range and mid range, and like anon said, you really should only be getting close enough to touch enemies if you're focusing on a 1v1 or if you're hitting a distracted enemy or group that will not be focusing on you. In a bygone era, I would recommend Sandman 9 times out of 10 for Scout's melee even with the reduced HP pool since the stun of the Sandman was honestly fucking invaluable, both as a support tool and as a way to pick off enemies. It's the biggest tragedy of the world that they removed it and made Sandman worth less than a bowl of piss. It's honestly the same as if they removed Pyro's ability to airblast.

>>1201574 >In my experience, the pistol is just not very good for offense when it does so little damage and requires you to be in the line of fire of enemies who most likely have weapons that can hit you at a similar range Pistol has greater effective range than the scattergun and at max rampup it melts people doing more dps than a level 2 sentry. It's the closest thing TF2 has to the lightning gun. Yes you can cornerpeak with the scattergun but that's easily punishable by splash damage. >Scout has far less HP than everyone else, you lose those interactions far more often than you win them. You have to fuck up hard to lose the soldier/demo matchup if you are playing scout correctly. You have a hitscan weapon while they have to get a direct hit with slow projectiles and you can easily deny an explosive jump so they are as mobile as a heavy. Pyro is a free kill and the heavy matchup is about positioning and timing than anything. You can go in with the scattergun to guarantee the kill but you risk getting shredded by the minigun if the heavy's aim is on point. Pistol can soften him up from a distance with virtually no risk. >For that reason, I have always favored the Mad Milk or Cleaver for scout - tending towards the former. It's actually not very commonly good for restoring your OWN health since you have very little of it anyways, but moreso for restoring your teammates' health (by throwing it on enemies in a chokepoint which will increase your teammates' resolve for taking a risk and pushing against enemies since they know they'll heal off of the mad milk enough to mitigate a good chunk of damage). In a perfect world but casual teammates are retarded. Milk doesn't highlight targets the same way jarate does or give them the mini crit sound so they rarely follow up on it. Cleaver is definitely a solid option but it does jack shit against sentries which are a much bigger problem for scout. No I don't trust my teammates to deal with the sentries. >In addition to that, it's absolutely invaluable for extinguishing yourself from fire which is more often than not going to be lethal in any extended pyro engagement as scout, even if the pyro only gets a few licks of damage against you or a lucky flare gun shot, the afterburn will either leave you at very low health or zero health. Extinguishing that right away after disengaging or after killing a pyro will save your life many times over. You really shouldn't have any trouble staying out of pyro's range. Scout curbstomps pyro and it's not even close. If you take a significant amount of afterburn you were in a bad position. >In addition, I ALWAYS use the Wrap Assassin since it's essentially what the pistol accomplishes but better (except against buildings, which Scouts should only rarely be expected to take out anyways even in the best circumstances). It's great for ranged harassment and allows you to GTFO quickly without exposing yourself too much. It crits very easily due to distance alone, which can easily halve the health of any enemy with even a modest health pool. It does reduced damage, but really, as a Scout you shouldn't be melee'ing ANYONE unless you're in a clusterfuck close quarters fight. How is a 15 damage projectile + 40 damage bleed even remotely comparible to the pistol? Even at max falloff pistol still does almost twice as much damage in a single clip. >Stock scatterFUN is the best weapon for any situation. Sodapopper has the same DPS as the scattergun. It's a viable if less fun option. Scout's other primaries are definitely weaker than stock in but you can still make them work with the right playstyle. Shortstop shares the pistol's strengths making scout more threatening at medium range and it's his best anti engineer weapon. Force a nature gives scout more mobility and can launch players off cliffs. BFB is great for distraction plays in the enemy backlines

A memory from 2009 or so. Balloon race version 1. I was playing as a heavy weapons guy. SOMEHOW, I managed to sneak aboard the enemy team's ship before they could get out of the starting bay. This means they can't spawn in the ship and have to actually board it from the outside. I got so many fucking kills. I'd drop a few guys and eat my sandvich to recover what little damage I took, and was nigh invulnerable. I was laughing crying because no one could stop me. Spies tried to slip in and get a backstab, but it was no good; I just spun and tore them down. I tried to explain over the voice chat, "Just spawn as a bunch of demos and spam grenades in here". They couldn't coordinate or figure it out, so my team hit the first two capture points before they were able to dislodge me. That's about the most fun I've ever had in a video game.

>>1201574 >>1203000 Key thing about the wrap assassin and pistol is they don't share the same slot. You can fire off a wrap assassin projectile, switch to the pistol and end up doing more long range damage using both than just one or the other. Pistol has some competition in the secondary slot (especially Pretty Boy that plenty of people call an upgrade on pistol) but turning down wrap assassin often does feel like turning down free long range damage for no reason. Unless you plan on making good use of the atomizer or wanna help a medic charge uber with boston basher. >>1201574 >It's honestly the same as if they removed Pyro's ability to airblast Removing airblast cripples pyro far more. Scout has plenty of value without sandman, pre-airblast pyro was pretty much unanimously agreed to be the worst class in the game with little reason to play him without it. There's a reason every time an "old tf2" mod gets made people inevitably go "but no seriously we're going to give pyro airblast right?"

>>1203400 I've played a fair bit with both. Wrap assassin wasn't that consistent or high impact but I used the atomizer jump CONSTANTLY. So many spots on every map you need that third jump for. Hell I just like having it to get out of bad situations. Soldiers never expect that third jump when they prefire a rocket where you land. If it works for you cool but for me I never want to switch off atomizer.

>>1114338 what's stopping you? you're not poor or unemployed are you?

>zesty's server has been dead as long as halfchan has tragic

>>1196947 >ranked get out

>>1144308 Someone post the Soldier anti-Uncle Dane the Molester Main video Also yeah he makes awful comments and gets to shape what the game is all about. Sadly what helps him do that is having the only moderately stable server base in the entire game, which sucks because limiting classes is so fucking boring and everyone is trying to win at all costs (I hate friendlies but I hate removing the option of being one more). >>1154224 Just post it here? If you're contemplating on using dicksord you've already pretty much lost. >>1184023 Use the Dalokohs bar with them to abuse the source glitch and stop trying to get into Melee range with them unless it's for the funny. >>1196947 >I always thought it was just some silly mindless game but it actually seemingly has a very high skill ceiling. It also has an absurdly low skill floor though. Just pick any class you like the most visually and play a bunch of games in either Casual or some insta-respawn servers to get the hang of the basic mechanics, then either proceed to Team Fortress Classic if you want the good ole 2007-2009 TF2 experience, or go buy some 1 dollarydoo trinket to get access to the full game (like with voice commands and calling medics, blame Volvo and OMEGATRONIC for that) or just repeatedly look up new servers in the server browser to find your own little niche (personally I like servers that just have the base game rotation but those are few and far between). Be mindful of the fact that there's like a gorillion different game mechanics that are not explained anywhere in the game and playing with bots does not help at all. At best, if you wanna improve your knowledge of the game without just experiencing it on a match by match basis, install tr_walkway (more info on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8on-6xguJ4 ) and fuck around with it until you get the hang of specific weapons/unlocks. Similarly, there's just as many game modes, some official, some unofficial. For example, there's a Player vs. Server game mode called VS Saxton Hale that has both an unofficial plugin (where the majority of content is) and an official map pool (watered down version but much more balanced and populated with less autistic individuals). >Ranked Technically yes but only troons and deranged individuals care. If you like the Mann vs Machine, for example (the premiere Cooperative mode of the game) get ready to meet them on a daily basis, otherwise you may play everything TF2 has to offer without ever interacting with any of them. Basically in TF2 you find your own fun, rather than getting told by someone else how to interact with the game. By design, winning or losing is entirely up to your own personal feelings of what counts as either.

>>1204490 >>1207261 >By design, winning or losing is entirely up to your own personal feelings of what counts as either.

>>1204482 Nah it's cool, I like to use the atomizer myself. It's when people claim that both the atomizer and wrap assassin are bad and you're left wondering exactly what they use in their melee slot then.

Whose idea was it for 6v6 to be the norm for competitive? Whose idea was it for there to be limits on classes? This is why competitive tf2 never took off

>>1222066 various communities like highlander and sixes it never took off due to the chaotic nature of the gamemode when it requires players to complete all rounds without leaving which is rare

>>1222066 comp players who tried to turn a game that was designed to be a casual game that can be played by almost everyone, including players who aren't good at FPS games

>>1190797 Two thirds of the thread was 5 trannies posting and discussing goonbait 'ritualposters' could have been bots for all we know. probably the jannies or the trannies xhemselves

>>1222066 don't pretend for a single second you'd want to play against 5 invite level demomen, 4 medics, 2 soldiers, and 1 capping bitch (aka scout) cause the teams are now 12v12 with no class limits

>>1221011 Well, it's true, you're technically not punished for losing or playing suboptimal, nor meaningfully rewarded for winning or playing the meta. You can go for a high killstreak or k:d ratio, play the objective, grind achievements or weapon e-peen, fuck around with a meme loadout or even just hang out in spawn using the Schadenfreude taunt and asking for a dispenser near a pool of water as Demoman. If you played some shitty game like Doverwatch the only objective would be winning the match. >>1222066 Comp faggots hate stalling matches, Engineer, Heavy and too many Demomen stall matches, hence why they force situations (like 6v6) where the less players are around at any point in time, the more action single-elimination classes like Sniper and Scout get.

Mantreads with the Liberty Launcher or Air Strike?

>>1222066 It wasn't always. They tried lots of different formats in the very early days and they all sucked ass. 12v12 was never going to happen because it's complete chaos for 12 people to talk over each other, impossible to organize scrims, and too costly for lans. >Whose idea was it for there to be limits on classes? Have you ever considered that maybe trying to push into multiple heavies and wrangled sentries on last ISN'T fun? >This is why competitive tf2 never took off but you think teams turtling on last every round would be better

>>1224280 Why mantreads?

>>1203168 I miss the chaos and the braintarded snipers following the balloons by swimming around and fruitlessly trying to headshot far away players. Fuckers never looked in the spawn otherwise they'd know you can tp into the ship. It happened EVERY TIME there was always at least one mother fucker splashing about in the great sea.

>>1226177 Had to watch out for that fish, though. When both ships were kicking along, one or two engies set up wrangler sentries on the deck, and you had some heavies and soldiers spamming rockets with them. Fucking magical. >"GIVE EM THE BROADSIDE!!!" >Hail of boolets, rockets, and sentry fire tearing into the other team as they did the same to your boat. The only thing that rivaled it was Wacky Races. I would be crying laughing as people screamed obscenities into their mic, tactics, and spamed Michael Richards "HE'S A NIGGER" voice clips. Pornographic sprays featuring furry shit, pony shit, and assorted memes. All the while this song is playing in the background >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16Kx9-Ys2s I wish more people could have gotten to experience TF2 at that time. It's 100x more beautiful than text can describe. You couldn't get away with it in the modern era. It was the absolute peak of wild west internet in that blissful 2009~2011 period. It's gone forever now. You'll never be able to recapture that magic. It was too crazy.

>>1226149 Stomp gardens.

>>1228589 Liberty Launcher for the damage reduction then.

>>1093504 Tell me, 8/v/. Should I sell this and try to buy a Pro KS aussie scattergun? Very conflicted on the issue, but an Australium would probably go better with my current outfit. I DID unbox this warpaint though, so perhaps there's some sentimentality that's holding me back.

>>1222066 >Whose idea was it for 6v6 to be the norm for competitive? It was originally 8v8 but they shortened it to 6 because the smaller teams was easier to organise. >Whose idea was it for there to be limits on classes? If there wasn't then a team would just spam demoman with medic and win. This was a confirmed meta. >This is why competitive tf2 never took off Competitive tf2 did take off. To the detriment of the game in fact because valve started trying to balance the game around the competitive scene when they really shouldn't have. We're talking years before Meet your Match by the way, people thinking pandering to compfags started with MYM really weren't paying attention. If you're asking why Meet Your Match failed to take off as the competitive platform it was intended to be. Funnily enough one of the reasons was that it didn't have class limits.

>>1231256 aussie might look better with your loadout and is a better investment

>>1231256 yeah sell it or go for a subzero cosplay

>>1231256 Trade it in for an Aussie or save it for a konata loadout that'll only ever look good remotely if you're on BLU

how do I turn my keys into paypal money

haven't played since 2020, having an itch to just veg out on 2fort as engie. are bots fully gone? are human cheaters gone? if not are they mostly gone?

>>1237202 Bots are gone. There are still cheaters but they're infrequent enough you can enjoy the game.

>>1237202 Bots are all but gone with player reporting supposedly doing something now. Feel free to live in whatever 24/7 2fort servers remain though I wouldn't be surprised if any remaining closet cheaters hang around those places.

>>1237355 >>1238014 >bots are gone unironically how did they manage it? did they update VAC?

>>1238761 Valve woke up and did the bare minimum. Just a mass banwave with VAC bans given to the bot hosters.

>>1231256 >>1232814 >>1232847 >>1235030 Oh my god Who. The hell. Cares.

>>1238797 yeah yeah, I get that. but why haven't any of them come back? what is stopping them?

>>1238941 Valve actually upkeeping their efforts with some outside detection software they won't disclose for obvious reasons.

Did the fempyros posters not make it here

>>1222540 Some of the best games of all time like Melee were never meant to be played competitively. Thats completely irrelevant >>1222824 It should just be 9 players with no class limits >>1222824 >>1232743 >>1224209 Retards cant handle an evolving meta There's a reason why "b4nny" has been the best player for 15 years while every other game with a high skill ceiling has the king always changing. Very few talented people even care to invest effort because 6v6 is so unattractive

>>1242538 >Some of the best games of all time like Melee were never meant to be played competitively. Thats completely irrelevant Apples to oranges. When competitive players which make up 3% of the playerbase starts making suggestions to the developer to change the base game to their wants and needs, that other 97% of casual players will leave the game. Keep the base game and competitive mode separate and the game will stay alive, or design the base game in such a way when its still being developed to easily become an eSport ready game. Go look up the worldwide Google Trends graph for TF2, and tell me when search interest started to dip (hint: it's 2016). TF2 was designed to be a casual game made for a 32-player clusterfuck of a server designed with the illusion of your team having teamwork, go look up interviews of Robin Walker about the game and old dev notes. Competitive TF2 is way too different from the casual game it is. Might as well make a new game instead of ruining the base game.

>>1242662 I am against "balance" patches of any sort, its a crutch for bad game design. the best competitive games never received a single update and still have a changing meta after decades

>>1239487 I killed them all

>>1242538 >Some of the best games of all time like Melee were never meant to be played competitively >Retards cant handle an evolving meta Pretty much this, it's why I love games like Advance Wars By Web, they fuck around with the settings and let players choose the meta for themselves. Aside from the map selection, which is definitely a sekrit club sort of deal, the tiering for each map is extremely democratic and the site owners take great care in making sure the competitive league stays fresh while the casual league can do whatever the hell they want with it. >>1242662 >Might as well make a new game instead of ruining the base game. Which is funny because had Valve just made the 6v6 competitive mode its own balance, separate from vanilla, no one would have complained about it.

>>1242538 >It should just be 9 players with no class limits the same problem exists. If you have no classlimits, you just get more and more demomen and medics. You're not gonna more spys when the class limit goes from 2 to 9 well scratch that. you will see some other classes. you're gonna see 4 engineers on last and it'll make it 100% chance of stalemating each game just like in casual >Retards cant handle an evolving meta I fucking love ids man >>1196947 >tranime pedophile who has never played the game before telling other people the best way to play the game I will take your criticisms with a pinch of salt my dude. you honest to god don't know what you're talking about The thing about 6s that makes it so fun is the speed. If you're holding second and the enemy loses 2 players. It's now a 4v6. You immediately go from defensive to offensive. The enemy knows this and is backing up. It becomes a race over who can gain the most ground. A 7v9 on the other hand means you have enough players holding chokepoints where the only thing the enemy can do is pressure for their sac wave But lets say the enemy does sac. A sac (aka sacrifice) is a way of going in and dying to kill or force the other med to gain uber advantage. If the other team doesn't respect your uber advantage, you can uber in and wipe everyone. What good is a sac to force 1 medic when the enemy team has 3 ubers? It's just another stalemate scenario. 1 med can play super baity to never be forced. other 2 medics can just tank each other to never get forced Congrats you've just created the most stalemate prone gamemode ever

random crits are based and only people born after the release of the game hate them