First for sex with bastila

>>1154433 I came to post this

>>1154433 no bully

Man I really miss games like KOTOR. While I like the classic heroes tale of the first, I preferred the narrative of two. And honestly I didn't hate the Sith Inquisitor and Sith Warrior of SWTOR, even if a massive downgrade. Also, if you've not listen to the audiobook of RotS I'd really recommend it. https://youtu.be/MHIesTfswBA?si=jjHiDyUN_p8Q8mD0

>>1154602 >While I like the classic heroes tale of the first, I preferred the narrative of two To me one cannot exist without the other, they complement each other like yin and yang, although I still sightly prefer K1 to the 2nd game because ultimately it's a finished product. For anyone who enjoys lorefagging and wants to get into the Old Republic era I'd strongly recommend the Tales of the Jedi series. KOTOR1 is basically a sequel story set around 40 years after the last issue. Many of the personalities and events mentioned in the games can be traced back to these comics. It's a damn shame LucasArts had some stupid trademark issues over the name Sunrider, we could've had Nomi's daughter as one of the main characters instead of Bastila. >And honestly I didn't hate the Sith Inquisitor and Sith Warrior of SWTOR Not a fan of TOR, but I enjoyed LS Sith Warrior. SI was arguably just as boring as Consular.

Just learned that Nicky Katt died about 2 weeks ago by suicide. I always thought Atton is by far the best companion out there and Nicky Katt's voice acting definitely adds to the impression. The way Atton says "I don't care, I just want you to die" here is pure perfection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vP2sq-VMHA

Reminder that Kreia is right, the force is an abomination that exists only to divide us for sake of it's own self propagation.

>>1164756 The Force simply exists. Nothing more to it really. As for Kreia herself, she's a hypocritical and manipulative bitch who wanted to get back at everyone who wronged her in one way or another, Sith or Jedi, out of sheer pettiness of her character. There's a reason she goes on a furious rant on Dantooine if you kill all Jedi Masters, because she finally realises that all her teachings inevitably result in Sithoids of various shades and colors, and it pushes her over the edge.

Replaying 1 for the first time in forever. Any necessary mods? I was just planning on using KotOR 1 Restoration on nexusmods.

I have no way to prove this without getting screwing myself over, but I'm a developer on the remake. It's going to be good, expect more info next year.

Why was the first kotor so hard in the beginning?

>>1165254 Widescreen mod + K1 Community patch, and you're good to go. Maybe add the Reflective Lightsaber mod to the list because it looks awesome. >I was just planning on using KotOR 1 Restoration on nexusmods If you're talking about the K1 Restoration Mod I suggest you don't use it. >>1165388 Was it? It's pretty easy unless you saving your levels for the later (and even then it's not that hard) >>1165318 Are you the same guy who used to visit KOTOR threads back on 4/v/?

>>1165119 Flawed or not she is right. The force will always create polar opposites and endless galactic conflict. We're not talking about a simple blaster, we're talking about something that very much contains a will of it's own that creates sith and jedi that will always endlessly war over a disagreement of ideology that is not even their own. Even if that were not true it grants power to men who will lord it over others directly or indirectly. The force is a disease, a parasite.

>>1164756 The Force exists to exalt the chosen few to stations of greatness and to reshape the galaxy.

>>1165771 >Are you the same guy who used to visit KOTOR threads back on 4/v/? Once that I remember.

>>1166183 >>1165318 Didnt it get a cease and desist

>>1166262 Nah, previous developer fucked it up completely, it got really close to being cancelled but managed to be saved by the skin of its teeth. Whatever you hear about "oh no the demo was so good but Sony didn't like it" is bullshit, it was horrible.

>>1166183 Well, if what you were saying back then is true I choose to be (very) cautiously optimistic about the remake. Good luck. >>1166262 You're thinking of the Apeiron fan project which would've likely never seen the light of day anyway. The actual remake was being worked on by Aspyr but they allegedly fucked up royally so the project was handed over to Saber Interactive. >expect more info next year A bit disheartening to be honest, I expected some info this Celebration, but sure, take your time with it.

>>1166328 she didn't say that

>>1166496 My bad

>>1166536 she didn't say that either

What is everyone hoping for in the remake? Other than it not being shit.

>>1166315 Oh you mean the official one. I though you were the dev of the fan one my bad. >>1166328 Yes that one. >>1166596 Thats a very question. Honestly never stopped to think about besides wanting better graphics. Improved gameplay?

The KOTOR II restoration mod is now playable on an original, physical Xbox if for some reason you want to do that.

>>1166596 Well, according to the post this guy >>1165318 here made on 4chinz a while ago it's basically going to be a remaster with some QoL changes and touch ups here and there . If that turns out to be true, I'll be more than satisfied. That, and I'll be on cloud nine if they make Yuthura Ban an optional companion instead of Juhan and add explorable areas to Yavin IV but I understand that's a bit of a tall order.

>>1166647 >Oh you mean the official one. I though you were the dev of the fan one my bad. Yeah, no, the official(tm) one. >>1166596 >>1166647 It's not a remaster, it's a full remake so it's much more than just improved graphics. There will be more customization options for the player, loads of work is going into optimization, some scenes like the Taris upper section are fucking heavy with crowds of people. Gameplay will mostly be unchanged, in the sense that its going to stick to the same design philosophy, but with modernized QoL stuff, fleshing out the mini-games, extending dialogs, etc.

>>1166764 >it's a full remake >extending dialogs How much of it is being rewritten for the "modern audiences"? Also, I assume there'll be no additional voicelines for Canderous and Vrook since their voice actors are dead.

>>1166801 Not my department, so don't know specifics. All I know is that dialogs are being significantly extended in terms of volume, choices, and complexity. So far I haven't seen anything that made me cringe, I believe that Disney is slowly learning their lesson.

>>1166869 finesse or no finesse

>>1166869 I see. You've given me a bit of hope. If the KOTOR remake succeeds we might actually see a properly restored KOTOR2 in our lifetime.

>>1164418 Damn that really sucks

Dropped Kotor 1 when I got to the jungle planet. Does the game get better after this? Is Kotor 2 actually better than 1? What's the best qol mod that doesn't drastically effect gameplay?

>>1167487 >Does the game get better after this? Did you go to Kashyyyk 1st after Dantooine lol? Dunno, you're probably better off dropping the game at this point. >Is Kotor 2 actually better than 1? In some ways, but if you didn't like the first one I doubt you'll find K2 significantly more enjoyable as it's more of the same essentially gameplay wise. >qol mod Define "qol mod"

>>1167487 The mid game is non linear, the planets can be done in different orders. If you're getting filtered by wookie land go somewhere else.

>>1166869 >dialogs are being significantly extended in terms of volume, choices, and complexity. Sounds good on paper but I'm having second thoughts about this one. K1's cheesy and somewhat lighthearted original writing is an integral part of what makes the game feel like a Star Wars title even if it's a bit too much on the nose sometimes. Hopefully SI won't overdo it with the seriousness, it doesn't quite fit the tone of the story.

>>1164418 >Atton VA gone fuck man :(

>>1164418 I liked when he casually started describing how easy it is to kill Jedi >people say that killing jedi is hard >it's not >you just have to be smart about it Anyway old 4chan /crpgg/ has moved here >>>/vg/2810 in case anyone is looking for it

>play kotor 1 again >having a good time >turns out grass is fucked in the jedi planet if you have amd cards fuck, the grass looked so good in that planet, its over.......

>>1164418 Rip Atton

>>1167529 >Define "qol mod" Anything that makes the game less tedious to play without effecting actual difficulty and not changing the core gameplay loop. >>1167561 >If you're getting filtered by wookie land go somewhere else. I wasn't filtered by wookie land I was just bored with the game at that point and had exhausted my squads dialogue and they had very little to say on missions themselves. I was also going almost full blown dark side and that dark side seemed to have been influencing choices that would otherwise have been good

*ahem*... FUCK ALIENS!

What's worth spending your credits on in this game, besides the crystal? Dominator gauntlets?

>>1167487 >What's the best qol mod that doesn't drastically effect gameplay? You know KOTOR was a huge normalfag WRPG for its time right? Why do you need it even more casualized?

>>1178614 >Anything that makes the game less tedious to play without effecting actual difficulty and not changing the core gameplay loop. Be more specific. What's making the game tedious for you? Is it the combat system? Then no, there's no way to change that. Is it the overall balance? There're a few mods out there but I've only ever used those for KOTOR2. What's your class/build? Stats? Lightsaber crystals? Which Feats and Force powers do you currently have? Which companions do you use? Do you have any upgradable weapons for them? >>1179988 Suvam Tan's and Mika Dorin's items

>>1178826 Gladly, as long as it's cute twi'leks

>>1164418 >by suicide I knew he died but goddammit. His role with Atton was phenomenal, I honestly think he outdoes han solo into the dirt but that's just me. Its not fucking fair

>>1167487 I dropped Kotor 2 early on. The beginning, like in every game Chris Avellone made, is boring and tedious. And the only selling point people talk about it how it "deconstructs" the mythos of the jedi, which is something I don't really care about.

hell yea kotor is tha best

>every year or so get the itch to play KoTOR >get half way through and drop it because I've played the game 10 times to completion and there's no novelty or challenge left God I wish I could play these games for the first time again

>>1182338 I was going to say you went too far he was better than Disney Han but now that I think about it he really is such a great character, he really is more Han than Han. I wonder what he was doing on Peragus. A shame he never gives Mandalore shit. Did being a Sith Trooper who specialized in capturing/torturing Jedi make his mandohate boner go away?

>>1186261 I always wanted to see him and Carth go off on each other. Carth hates former republic soldiers turned sith more than anything, and Atton makes turning to the Sith sound like the most natural, obvious thing.

>>1164418 That's a shame, he was good in Boiler Room too. Cared for his mother in her final years until she passed in 2023, RIP.

>>1186573 I think carth hates Saul the most for bombing his home planet, but he ended up forgiving Revan. I wonder if the twileks that recognize atton on nar shadaa were part of revan's army.

>>1183151 I replayed the game as femRevan a few months ago for the first time, same shit mostly but you get to bully both Carth and Bastila

>>1154233 >>story (head)canons >>favorite builds female Revan, 36-38, Consular before amnesia, Scout 8/Consular 12 post-amnesia male Exile (not Jedi Jesus), 36-38, Sentinel/Watchman, Disciple and Handmaiden both join the crew Atton loses to Sion and dies also Juhani survives the purge thanks to her innate stealth abilities, and Jolee dies of old age not long after the events on the star forge >mod setups k1 community patch, reflective lightsaber, k2 robes, HD blasters for the first game TSLRCM + Party Swap + RCM Tweak + k2 community patch + HD blasters + canon planet position on the galaxy map (yeah I'm autistic like that lol) for the 2nd game >cheesy character names something super star warsy and goofy like Mika Fardreamer or Erik Ashspammer for k1 simple unassuming name for the Exile, sometimes I would even use a name from the random name generator >>1165318 >expect more info next year just more info huh i'd hate to see KOTOR turn into another longterm AAA project with no release date in sight >>1182534 Peragus is unironically fantastic though >"deconstructs" the mythos of the jedi newsflash, k2 doesn't deconstruct it, if anything the game reinforces many of Lucas' ideas

>Play it for the first time >Pretty difficult >Finally find a D&D group years later >Learn how to hit rolls and stuff actually work and why. >replay this game sometimes last year >It is so fucking easy. Who would have thought, Knowing how the game works makes it easier. I also wanted to play KOTOR 2 but the game makes me save and reload after every single fight and I hate that. Reminder that all aliens are for human cock. Especially twi'leks.

>>1193097 >Pretty difficult I bet you chose Sentinel lol

>>1193157 I cannot remember at all. I think it was "fighter" (can't remember real name right now).

>>1193097 as a little kid i didn't think it was difficult, just slightly disappointed it doesn't play like Jedi Outcast >I also wanted to play KOTOR 2 but the game makes me save and reload after every single fight and I hate that the hell are you talking about?

>>1193226 PC version, This happens on both windows 7 and linux emulating windows. Whenever a fight ends the character will just stand in place become unable to move at all or do anything. The only solution to this is to either hope you can attack another enemy and then hope it fixes itself afterwards. The other solution is to save and reload. To be clear the first game has this as well but there it only happens every 30 minutes or so. Kotor 2 it happens constantly.

>>1193286 Try turning off V-sync, or instead turn on V-Sync and lock the game to 60fps, should do the trick

Will we ever get a similar game like this again?

>>1194183 maybe, if the remake turns out to be good, and that's a big fucking maybe but overall the era of good star wars games is long over

>>1193286 Cap the game at 60fps. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic#Unable_to_move_your_character_after_combat I've also had some luck talking to your companions after a fight to get unstuck, but it's not that consistent and only seems to work about 40% of the time.

>>1165318 >>1166764 Can you give a slight hint at how far into the development process you are currently? Do we have to wait another 3-4 years for the release?

>>1194183 This will sound salty but I'm super pissed about the remake. Kotor 1 doesn't need a remake, but the second game desperately does since its... ya know... unfinished. Sadly even if the first remake is successful, I doubt they will ever touch the sequel since its Avellone's lovechild and no one wants to touch him with a 10ft poll. Yes I know he's innocent and won a court case, but corpos don't give a shit.

>>1206424 > Kotor 1 doesn't need a remake Agreed, its on steam and is fully playable. Its not like its lost or is broken with time. kotor 2 would be much better candidate for a remake.

>>1206424 >>1206506 I don't disagree with you entirely, but K1 is janky, runs like shit on modern systems and could use a good rebalance. It's ripe for a quality remake (the key word here is 'quality'). >Yes I know he's innocent and won a court case, but corpos don't give a shit. Things are changing albeit slowly. By the time - IF- we get to KOTOR2 we might see Avellone working on it again. One of the bigger problems is the voice actors' ages. John Cygan (Canderous), Ed Asner (Vrook) and Nicky Katt (Atton) are already dead, Sara Kestelman is 80+, and I'm not sure Mira's voice actress is even active anymore. In any case, if the remake fails I'll just mod the shit out the original games and keep playing them instead.

>>1208742 >>1208742 > John Cygan (Canderous), Ed Asner (Vrook) and Nicky Katt (Atton) are already dead, Sara Kestelman is 80+, and I'm not sure Mira's voice actress is even active anymore. >tfw old

>>1208840 yeah I mean, most of us KOTORfags aren't getting younger..

What was his fucking problem?

>>1212202 Soaked in the Jedi dogma, knows the Order screwed up badly, but refuses to admit his views or the Order's teachings are less than perfect. I feel for the guy in a way, witnessing so much destruction wrought by the dark siders (from Great Sith War to Mando and Jedi Civil wars) definitely wasn't easy on his psyche, but it sucks that he didn't draw the right conclusions from his experience. Instead, he chose to retreat to his echo chamber and become a stubborn old fart. Also I'm 100% convinced Vrook was the reason Kavar and especially Zez Kai-El changed their minds on the Exile. As their senior he had all the authority to brainwash them back into the dogmatic nonsense.

Replayed these on og xbox recently and had a great time all over again. I'll have to give jade empire a try too since that basically seems like the natural progression from kotor

>>1208742 >John Cygan (Canderous) And this is how I find out that he was dead. Shame, He voiced my favourite companion.

>>1214566 He was only 63 as well

>>1215894 Cancer is scary

>SWTOR is the official third game in the series >We will never get anything after that

>>1164756 >>1165932 The Force literally doesn’t give a damn, Kreia just wanted an excuse to use you. The Force is the energy produced by all living things that a lucky few are capable of tapping into. The Dark Side is the shadow of the Force, a parasite trying to kill the Force, and indirectly killing all life. It is literally the “Dark Side” of life - the desire to cease existing. Jedi and Sith choose to war, the Force doesn’t decide that for them. Sith choose to lord over others, then they choose to peer further into the Dark Side for more power, go schizo from it (they ALL do in the end), and then try to kill everyone else. Force doesn’t tell them to do that. Star Wars midwits who continue to spout the nonsense that the Force is somehow playing a ridiculous puppet game for some strange unknown agenda to this day is a sign of how much damage KOTOR 2 did. You people literally do not understand Star Wars.

>>1216093 >SWTOR is the official third game in the series Absolutely cursed timeline >>1216093 >how much damage KOTOR 2 did KOTOR2's narrative reinforces Lucas' original idea of the Dark side being a literal cancer better than any other SW product bar Lucas' own works. Once you see past Kreia's long winded monologues and verbal fluff you realise how straightforward and faithful KOTOR2 is to the mainline Star Wars. Don't blame the messenger, blame the "muh deconstruction" midwits who keep pushing this retarded myth of "mature, subversive and morally deep Star Wars story".

>>1217040 >>1216918 State of post migration 8chan, ive done this twice

I think these games really got me to love Star Wars as a setting. It might be campy but its such a cool universe.

Missionbros...

>>1218206 >same spirit, adventurous atmosphere and quality music as the classic trilogies but better writing and dialogs KOTORs are a full package, we really got lucky back in the day

>>1218914 M-MISSION??

>>1208742 I don't think the VAs are a problem. Recast them. There are loads of talented voice actors who can turn in a good, appropriate performance. Trying to reuse the very same actors 20 years later is the same mindset as using a deepfake Leia and Tarkin.

I'm pretty sure kotor modders are using AI to make new voice clips sound like the original actors at this point

>>1223555 Fair point, but some voice actors are simply too iconic to simply recast them, like Jennifer Hale for example (let's also not forget Bastila was modeled in her likeness)

>>1224443 Or Sara Kestelman. Say what you will about KOTOR2 writing but her performance as Kreia was absolutely fantastic. Shakespearean stage actors are no joke.

Any books or comics worth reading? Ive read RoTS, Darth Plageuis, Bane and the Republic comic.

>>1232754 >comics Tales of the Jedi KOTOR series >books Shatterpoint The Thrawn Trilogy X-Wing series I, Jedi

Just saw this was announced, but honestly not excited. I loved XCOM, old and new, but new Star Wars games have been so bad as have XCOM clones. Also it's set in the clone wars which is a gay era.

>>1240671 D*sneyshit, who cares. On a side note, beta KOTOR looked wild (I dig the fight animations) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATZLSJtsksA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpPo4D2ajuA >silent AND deadly No wonder it got cut out of the final game lol

>>1240774 >beta Kotor Huh, I guess they were trying to do Mass Effect 2 for a while, just couldn't pull it off.

>>1166764 >it's a full remake So no turn-based combat, then. >>1165318 Is Mission Vao no longer underage, because of how "icky" Tumblr thought that was?

>>1241591 >So no turn-based combat, then. >>1166764 >Gameplay will mostly be unchanged, in the sense that its going to stick to the same design philosophy

>>1241634 Yeah, but The Mainstream Audience™ doesn't do turn based anymore. FF7 remake went real-time. I expect this to be the same.

>>1241823 Baldur's Gate 3 was a huge success. I see no reason why the KOTOR remake can't be the same, it just needs rebalancing.

>>1240774 >beta KOTOR looked wild Looking at the video, it feels like one of those fake demo reels devs would use to dazzle either publishers or audiences in order to raise money. Now I don't want to be too harsh on it, as it is a 24 year old video, and for all I know the people who worked on it, are either dead or retired, and I will also give them the benefit of doubt, in that maybe they really wanted KOTOR to be like that "beta" but realized early in development that they couldn't do it. So with that out of the way, let's look at it >10:59 a car passes the player Looks cool, but what happens if the player steps in front of the car? Does it stop? If it stops does it try to go around the player, or will it patiently wait for the player to move(think Release version of Cyberpunk)? Will it hit the player and maybe kill him? if it does that, would the player actually appreciate the set piece, or would it be better to make it a png in the background, instead of a 3D object in the game scene. What does the car do? Does it just go around the map, over and over without stopping? That can break immersion fast, so it's better to just have the car parked and not deal with all the bullshit. A reminder that GTA III would get released a few months later in October, and I don't remember how Omikron The Nomad Soul did it. So yeah, I don't have any faith that they could have pulled good car physics and AI. >14:26 Stormtroopers Sith soldiers run and shoot. The player stops and let's them pass, but what if he doesn't? Would he have to fight them, would they just pass through him, because they are set pieces? >14:41 Robot gets shot and player back away, but what if he doesn't? Again would he have to fight the Sith soldiers, or are they just props. For these 2 cases, it's better to just have cutscenes, where the player has limited input, kinda like what they did with the finished product. >15:33 Jedi fight, cool animation, but what does the player even do? Can he interact? For these scenarios, you either make it a cutscene, or put an unbreakable glass wall between the player and the set-piece so as to not mess it up. Oni from Bungie, had something like this in the tutorial, where you would see an NPC fight the tutorial test dummy. With that said, I can see how this team would go on to make Jade Empire, and later Mass Effect. >>1241823 *AHEM* Baldur's Gate 3

There's a lot of beta stuff in the game files. I guess if anyone cared about it, there would already be a "beta style mod" out there. Just surprised no one has bothered is all, given the wealth of autism and continued development

>>1242344 K1 Restoration Mod exists, it's just not really worth it. Most of the deleted stuff was removed for a good reason.

>>1240774 Were they planning on dark Jedi wearing trooper armor at one point

>>1242344 I guess because unlike with KOTOR 2, the first game feels like a finished product. Sure there is a cut planet, some cut quests, dialogues and so on, but for the most part you don't feel it's absence, unlike with the sequel, especially towards the end.

>>1246621 >Sure there is a cut planet I wonder if they'll restore Sleheyron in the remake, if only for some extra lore content

>>1175091 about fixing the grass https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2679869258

>>1242081 >Looking at the video, it feels like one of those fake demo reels devs would use to dazzle either publishers or audiences in order to raise money. Now I don't want to be too harsh on it Anon, they had only been working on the game for six months at that point. >*AHEM* Baldur's Gate 3 *COUGH* is pozzed shit, nigger.

>>1249776 >is pozzed shit What does this have to do with the game mechanics?

It's such a shame that the star wars franchise is so damaged, every new announcement has me uninterested and mournful when I should be excited. Do you think star wars can ever do a 180 and save itself? Also will we see another game like Empire At War?

how do I Kotor 1 on 2560x1440 without minimizing U.I to sub-atomic level?

>>1241908 what would you even rebalance? KotOR1 isn't nearly as broken as the 2nd game

>>1263914 Not while disney owns it. They intend to milk it to death. It's over.

>>1264664 The final boss in kotor is bullshit to be fair. I only beat him by laying down a million land mines because I didn't invest in the specific force power you need to destroy his cloning machines.

>>1263914 >>1264688 Andor is okay, so I think it is possible for something good to come out of Star Wars yet. Extremely unlikely, still.

>>1264703 I remember I had to abuse the stun (force wave?) to be able to beat him

>>1264664 Make Sentinel actually worth a damn Same with the Skills Make blaster builds viable Make Mission actually suitable for melee and HK-47 for ranged as was initially planned >>1263914 >Do you think star wars can ever do a 180 and save itself? Not at this point, no. It would require death of the franchise and selling it to someone who cares, and D*sney wouldn't allow it to happen >Also will we see another game like Empire At War? No, the era of games such as EaW is over. However, modding community's been kind to it. >>1264703 Unironically sounds like a skill issue. Malak is notorious for filtering shit builds out.

>>1165318 Playing along: Can you still strip Mission?

>>1264780 >No, the era of games such as EaW is over We got Battlefleet Gothic recently

>>1264866 I'll bet you can but she'll be older than 14, probably 18-20 just to be "sage"

>>1240671 Disney refuses to let Star Wars be cool again >>1241591 >Is Mission Vao no longer underage, because of how "icky" Tumblr thought that was? probably, or they'll make sure to bog her so no one will be attracted to her >>1263914 it would take a new CEO at Disney to spend a few years getting rid of the rot, they're gonna have to lose a lot more money first >>1293569 honestly the real smart move would be to just not comment on her age at all but still keep her little sister attitude the same, it gets the same idea across.

>>1216093 It's been made very clear the force rebalances it self when one side dominates, if the force doesn't have a will then it's impact on people is still a negative outcome. Even though we can identify, yes in fact the puppy kicking side of the force is worse, doesn't mean it's effect as a whole is not worth it's use. Ask your self what is really gained by using the force even from a jedi perspective if it will always create opposing sith, is space magic really required in order to save puppies from getting kicked? Or is it's very use of saving puppies in it self creating more puppies getting kicked? https://youtu.be/KHwiygoX7AU?si=llkR9zeJW9QFJyuH Perhaps it's not unreasonable to argue on the basis that the force will always exist and will always be used and as such it creates an equal response situation, nukes existing to stop other nukes from being used. But if there is the slightest chance to destroy the force permanently as Kreia believes, ending an unknowable amount of future conflicts and 'lucky few' from lording unearned power over others, then it should be pursued. for everyone's sake.

>>1240671 >but new Star Wars games have been so bad as have XCOM clones As opposed to what, exactly? When Lucas owned it the attitude was "fuck it, let's get paid" starting in 1981 and taken as a whole Star Wars vidya averages out to somewhere just north of shovelware. People love to bring up games like KotOR and Battlefront and Republic Commando while ignoring the 15+ educational games, the dozens of farmed-out mobile cash grabs dating back to before smartphones existed, multiple FMV rail shooters and other assorted atrocities like the original game based on ANH getting more re-releases than Skyrim (yes, literally) from 1981 all the way into the 90s. I'll take the Lucas approach hands down because it led to good as well as bad as opposed to the milquetoast slop that Yidsney has sanctioned but let's not pretend that Star Wars vidya was ever about anything but the money.

>>1295630 It can be two things at once, binaryfag. To quote Walter Disney: "We don't make movies to make money. We make money to make more movies."

>>1242081 >*AHEM* Baldur's Gate 3 And now Exp33

>>1242081 >*AHEM* Baldur's Gate 3 Utter garbage. Don't ever bring that shit up in the Kotor thread ever again nigger

>>1327626 I said nothing of it's quality as an RPG, only that it was popular with normalfags, which even you have to concede on this point.

>>1327638 While true, I bet most of the normgroids who play it play it in real time mode

>>1327644 I doubt it, since by default it enters turn based mode when a character enters combat, and I am not even sure if you can even activate "real time" during combat. At most you can cheese with some other character who is not in combat, to move around while everyone else is frozen, but the moment he is detected or attacks someone, he enters turn based mode as well.

>>1295386 >Disney refuses to let Star Wars be cool again More specifically, Disney refuses to allow the fans to decide what is and is not cool. Instead, they tell you what is cool and demand you Consume the Product created as a result of this marketable consumer good.

>>1328578 >More specifically, Disney refuses to allow the fans to decide what is and is not cool. Instead, they tell you what is cool and demand you Consume the Product created as a result of this marketable consumer good. While that's true enough, I think that Disney's more fundamental mistake was failing to understand the nature what they spent $4B burgerbux on. With Marvel, everything has been rehashed and rebooted and re-done and the reset button has been hit dozens if not hundreds of times over ~80 or so years and there was a fundamental understanding among the fans that it was nothing for Disney to create their own spin-off (the MCU) with its own casting and canon and themes and whatever. Star Wars was not like this. The meat and bones of Star Wars as a franchise is a period of around ~30 years centered on one family and everything else is just spun off from this core. Marvel fans don't really care if Spider-Man keeps getting rebooted (hard or soft) over and over again in slightly different flavors because that's what happens in the comics as well (even if it's not a reboot and is just another writer with a different take on the character taking over) but Star Wars fans care - a lot - about the characterization of Luke and Han and Leia because there was only ever one of each with one vision behind them. Iron Man being a snarky techbro is palatable to Marvel fans but Luke Skywalker being a bitter old bastard living in self-imposed exile while everything falls to shit around him is not okay with SW fans. The Star Wars EU provided a sort of pressure release valve for this by allowing the thematic scope of the universe to expand WITHOUT stepping on the toes of the films. To bring this back to the topic of the thread, KotOR is a great example of this. It has that Star Wars feel to it in the art and dialogue and what have you but at the same time it touches on aspects of Star Wars that the movies deliberately avoid, like the nature of the force re: dark and light. There was never going to be a Star Wars movie following the missions of a group of commandos, but Republic Commando scratched that itch; Star Wars was never about the military details of galactic conquest but the RTS games scratched that itch; etc. Many of these aspects of the Star Wars universe that don't fit in neatly with the scope and themes of the movies got some time to shine in comics or games. This lack of understanding is also why people have soured a bit on the Mandalorian - the first season, when it was basically just Lone Wolf and Cub in space was received as positively as it was by existing fans because of this. Also the fact that the ST is ass, but whatever. Later on when they started bringing in characters like Bo Katan and Asohka and Boba Fett because it's all gotta be heckin' interconnected it went to shit because of that. People would still happily be guzzling down the Mandalorian if it was just about a guy with badass armor and an alien baby wandering around taking jobs to survive and occasionally running into a familiar face from something else but Disney still thinks that the way to squeeze more shekels from a stone is to make sure that everything is interconnected. Disney really deserves to be sold for parts at this point but they keep making money so I doubt that that's going to happen.

>The Old Republic is still running around after the Eternal Empire Arc >The age, spaghetti code, and outright lack of documentation is starting to show >No new story update for Return of Darth Malgus because of the SAG-AFTRS strikes and lack of funding from EA to wrap everything up. I just want an offline mode because the Class stories are just good. But this is fucking sad.

>>1420313 I'd be more or less ok with TOR's existence if Bioware wrapped up the KOTOR legacy storyline (as much damage as it took in the process) with the vanilla class stories and maybe one extra expansion or something, and then continued to do their own thing. Unfortunately, they kept dragging on and shat out SoR and KotFE/KotET as a result, the latter being obviously rushed. That being said, I'll never be not sour that we got TOR instead of KOTOR3. Nothing will ever convince me that BW's MMO is a viable substitute for Avellone's original plans for the 3rd installment.

>>1420313 Why would there be new content after the Disney purchase anyway? It's all "Legends" and decanonized, so no one would get paid for it.

>>1420302 >failing to understand the nature Anon, they understood it completely. They bought it solely to destroy it–purposely and consciously–by invoking their ideological framework on the product. They cannot allow anything to exist outside of their ideological framework, anon. NOTHING, ANYWHERE can be allowed to exist unless it actively worships their gods.

>>1222328 good morning agent 66 I have a mission for you a mission to rape

>>1206424 >they remaking kotor thanks for reminding me to backup my gog copy and fan patches. always do this when someone tries to remake your old games.

>>1165318 Here being honest with you pal. You being a big time developer is not the outlandish part of your post. This is: >It's going to be good It's just not possible.