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FFXIV Anonymous 05/14/2025 (Wed) 05:51:22 Id: 026006 No. 1356454
A thread about XIV since we're not allowed to have one on halfchan. Talk about Dawntrail, your hopes and expectations for the upcoming Foray Content, and any criticisms (or praise) you have for the current story.
>>1356454 You could use the MMO thread already in existence >>897003, or go to the general thread >>>/vg/40025
>>1356476 There's also >>>/xivg/ Who cares though they're all dead
>>1356476 MMO thread is too generalized an also appears to be dead (500 posts in 2 years and only a few posts made in the last few days), and /xivg/ is well /xivg/, they're a cancerous community of avatarfags that those of us from half /v/ went out of our way to avoid. Regardless, it's also largely inactive since the xivg community went back to halfchan (save for a particularily cancerous furry who only remains because he's an outcast from the halfchan /xivg/). Unless there's a rule against it for this game, I'd prefer to try to have a regular thread here. More easily seen especially with the OP image I used.
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>>1356494 500 posts over 2 years because the site was that slow until you refugees showed up, so we only NEEDED the one thread, and it would have been bumplocked weeks ago if the bump limit wasn't also raised due to the flood.
DT is a and will forever be a dogshit expansion and the sooner they get it over with and move the fuck on, the better. Cut the cunt short, apologize, refund everyone money and say the whole thing was a dream we had about a possible future while we were near death after our fight with Zenos.
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>>1356622 >DT is a and will forever be a dogshit expansion and the sooner they get it over with and move the fuck on, the better. Cut the cunt short, apologize, refund everyone money and say the whole thing was a dream we had about a possible future while we were near death after our fight with Zenos. > I genuinely believe something they can and should do ASAP is change the entire Queen Eternal fight to just remove Wuk coming in entirely. Just edit out that entire moment out and just have you kill the boss without Wuk's interferance, and have the final moments with Ai-Sphene be with the WOL and the WOL alone, and then you meet Wuk, Graha, Krile and Erenville afterwards outside before the credits roll. This is very much within their power to do and literally nobody would have a problem with this, it would be the start to helping redeem the shit expansion by taking away the moment that sealed it as complete and utter shit. They need to go back and revise SO much of 7.0 but I think the infamous "SPEEN LISTUN TO ME" moment is priority #1. They've set a precedent now that they've had Sena Bryer go back and redo entire lines (not just the SPEEN LISTUN TO ME moment, there are several lines that he not only revoiced but the lines themselves were altered to sound less cringe), so I think they should go further and literally redo entire chunks of the story itself, including axing Wuk's involvement in a large percentage of it.
>>1356494 Nigger are you fucking retarded? Do you have no concept of how imageboards work? There is zero difference between making this garbage thread to talk about XIV and posting in a "dead" MMO thread. The thread would be bumped to the top of the board and people would respond. I had a question about XIV, posted it on the /vg/ board, and got multiple responses. This thread will either just get deleted or die within a day or two. So instead of your discussion being in thread people actively watch it will just go absolutely nowhere. Fuck off back to cuckchan if you're just going to refuse to put any effort into your shit faggot. >Unless there's a rule against it for this game There's rules against making low effort terrible threads. And there's no reason for this thread to exist when you could talk about it in the MMO thread or on /vg/. You've essentially just made an /xivg/ thread but didn't label it as such. There's a thousand ways you could have framed the thread to be more interesting and expansive but you chose the laziest one liner nonsense possible because you were too stupid to use the existing threads.
>>1357632 Zoomer secondaries are a blight. There's a reason I left the shithole threads on halfchan ages ago. Basically not even worth interacting with this subhuman.
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>>1356454 I stopped playing around the end of Endwalker patches, I got extremely fatigued of doing dailies and weeklies and I dropped around 2 years ago, the damage that DT caused hasn't inspired me to go back and doing specific content seems to be ass because there's a large amount of ERPers or basically non-players who do not want to do content at all
Fisherrng is so rough bros...
>>1356493 lol when was this made, I only knew of >>>/xiv/ and >>>/finalfantasy/ the xiv board has one post a day at least. I'm still a firm believer that a board just for ff14 will work, because 5ch's ffo exists.
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>got a ps5 recently >remember I own a copy of base XIV and that it got upgraded to PS5 for free >find out that my PSN is linked to an old ass ARR era account from when I tried the game 3 months and quit >square lives in the stone age and won't unlink them even via customer support request >need to make a new PSN account and rebuy XIV if I want to play using my PC account Bummer. I guess I'll buy base XIV in the meantime and wait for a discount on Dawntrail to buy it a 2nd time. It'll limit me to StB era content but I have a decent amount of jobs and crafters to level, as well as all of Eureka and the moogle trove farm. I guess it's because I wasn't a pc gamer growing up but I've always had this mental hurdle where I only game on PC if I have 2 hours or more available to me, but if it´s on console I feel at ease just playing 30 minute sessions. It's a main motivator to why I want to get back into the game via PS5.
>>1565391 >bummer Sounds like something Stop Killing Games is designed to prevent, since they just stole your game from you.
>>1356454 >we're not allowed to have one on halfchan Why, does some tranny janny have an inexplicable hateboner for it like Homestuck on half/co/?
>>1565574 Because most threads on halfchan /v/ is just avatarfags spamming their garbage or barry seething at the game
>>1565574 >half/co/ bans homestuck now Damn, if only they did this 15 years ago things would have been so different. Without them we probably never would have had the tumblr invasion. They might not have spread to the rest of 4chan and ruined the whole site. Maybe moot wouldn't have been influenced by them to ban topics they didn't like, and we wouldn't have had to come to 8chan in the first place. But you're a fucking faggot for not leaving at that time. You know what's going on in modern 4chan, so you're a retard.
>>1566079 Nigger, Homestuck has been banned for years and years.
I started in 1.0, got the tattoo to prove it. It was incredible, I don't think any game could have lasted 10 years. It truly just isn't the same game anymore. But recently I've started to miss it But it's just not the same. All the people who created the game I loved aren't there anymore, the playerbase isn't there, they've all been removed and replaced. People think they can "fix it" but the only way would be to bring all those people back.
>>1566263 Well it wasn't the case before Gamergate, when everyone who wasn't a retard left 4chan.
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>>1566491 Nigger I see 1.X players all the fucking time, Fray didn't train you to be a bitch did he?
What's happening here?
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>>1356454 Just keep your shit in one thread and post more potato porn.
Apparently nothing much. Do you guys like dragon?
>>1356454 >renew sub for a month to check out new shit >grind crafters/gatherers to 90 via the space exploration so i can repair my own shit (a neat variation of the Ishgard restoration. Still think we should've gotten a Garlemald restoration.) >check out the dungeon, trial, raid, and occult crescent >rated in order: shit, meh, fun, meh >unsub The new patch got my rhythm of black mage utterly fucked up. Why is everything fucking free? Where's the goddamn timer? I think the timer even made shit easier since it forced you to be consistent or get punished for it. Why the fuck is AOE just flare spam now? What's the goddamn point of the fire/ice AOE spells now? Is this what Summoners felt like after 6.0?
So what's with sensitive types flipping their shit over these armor sets? Claiming they're conquistador inspired when they don't really fit the bill. The helmets aren't even morions and the classic musketeer outfit has much more importance in myth than conquering lesser peoples. Is this just a case of twitter crazies looking for something to bitch about? I'm fine with Square getting flak either way, the sooner their game dies the better after all the bullshit changes they've done over the years, it just seems like a weird thing for people to have a meltdown over.
>>1571167 I don't care for that nomralfag shit but give me the Musketeer outfit, I NEED ITTTTTT
>>1573474 Turns out I got bamboozled, it was a forum raid by a bunch of retards on bluesky that some journo was pushing as real sentiment. Yeah that musketeer outfit is really dope, but it'll probably be undyeable, remembering how this shit goes.
>>1571167 God I wish they would lift class restrictions for glamour, I want the third one for my healer but with the big feathered hat.
>>1574179 You WILL wear the maternity robe and you WILL like it. And if you don't like it just go play ultimate!
Can they release the source code or could there be some autist reverse engineering this shit? I would love a private server for just heavensward or the shit 1.0 version Yes I liked doing fates and fighting random ass world bosses while following a decent-ish story and side shit fucking sue me
>>1574046 Floofy hats like this and romantic era outfits will make fall in love with any character. Isn't bluesky like far-left echo chamber twitter?
>>1574471 >Isn't bluesky like far-left echo chamber twitter? That undersells it. t.bluesky user.
>>1574482 I am ready to know how bad it is, lay it on me.
>>1574484 So by default, the discovery feed refreshes between hyper leftwing bullshit, you can get ten straight posts of different users captioning the same clip of sone guy in Congress or the Senate. Refresh, you get flooded with untagged, unhidden fetish artwork - feederism, furry, vore. Refresh again, cute animal pictures, which, hey, I'm down. Refresh again, people still upset that kid failed to kill Trump last year. Discover, you know, the thing that should invite people to join your social media, is godawful. You have to curate it by blocking specific keywords and phrases, but those apply to posts and not account bios. What's more, the echo chamber likes to tell people, what you see is based on your follow and like habits, but I block and report all the obvious fetish content as 18+ whenever I'm bored and trawling through it. I use bluesky follow and talk to artists, there are some legitimately good artists and great people underneath the shit - and a lot of the really, really good artists make it a point to never mention or repost anything political. As an artist who posts, you occasionally get people clearly botting likes on specific hashtags, a lot of these are commission artists advertising through engagement. You also get people who randomly DM you either demanding you commission them or randos who want you to partner up and draw their comic.
>>1574521 If it's like this, I'd hate to see the FFXIV side. Modbeasts are already overly political and lean heavily to the left, so they must be eating each other alive there!
>>1574538 I couldn't say, since I don't see or pursue much XIV content on bsky. I occasionally see it from artists reposts, but it's always someone's WoL, occasionally art of Venat. I stopped following XIV before DT came out though.
>>1574551 One can only shudder to imagine the smell form the posters from there.
Square Enix filed a C&D against the creators of Mare, that one mod framework that was used by a lot of RPers and other related second life type players, alongside pornographers and most people populating the FFXIV social media hashtags with their modded screenshots. Allegedly the C&D was filed over the program letting people circumvent cash shop purchases and taking revenue away from such. Anyone remember how TERA's decline was rapidly accelerated by going after modders? And that game had much more frequent content updates. Most modders that use this type of software are long-term subscribers who won't leave during droughts or bad content due to making their own, so to speak. Usually you let things like this keep existing for those reasons. Hope this actually kills this piece of shit game. Even if it's ironic that this is what deals the deathblow and not the awful lore rape of Endwalker, horrible gameplay gutting and simplification over time, nor the terrible everything of Dawntrail.
>>1680185 >nor the terrible everything of Dawntrail. Dawntrail was its final chance and it fucked it. If you look at the numbers, there was a lot of buyer hope in Dawntrail, before it very quickly fell off. FFXIV is in a death spiral at this very moment, has been since 7.0. Squeenix will follow Ubisoft in <1 billion evaluation soon. >lore rape of Endwalker 6.0 wasn't that bad. Not as good as what came before? Sure. Plenty of plot issues? Sure. But it was 6.1-6.55 that was the real dogshit nothingburger. Mediocre-at-best trial series disguised as MSQ.
>>1680349 >told myself I would get dawntrail after finishing the post endwalker story. >have no interest what so ever in finishing the story of new goth girl. What do?
>>1680390 Wait until the game has something worth getting to. 7.2 wasn't horrible in plot but 6.1 up to it is a snoozefest. At least 6.0 was entertaining. I'm just bored. Both the goth girl and Speen are cute but they've got problems and it aint worth it. I might need to go through it again, but I think I enjoyed ARR's 2.x series plotline more than the 6.x plotline, not talking of Dawntrail itself at all. Silver lining is that 7.0 content onwards is mostly fun, if still formulaic because its still Square Enix. The more egregious part of it is that the class design is in the pits at the moment and I could easily write three more posts ranting about it from the perspective of someone who doesn't fully care about classes being somewhat samey but Squeenix still managing to take it too far. It's gotta be fun to press your buttons, and for many classes it just isn't. Supposedly something job design something fixed in 8.0. In other words, >just wait and see when 8.0 comes out if it fixed anything... or 9.0... >it probably wont because YoshiP might genuinely be an utter moron carried by a team that Squeenix spread out to every other dev other than CBU3. >in other words, carried by a team that is now gone and replaced by C-tier devs.
>>1680349 Weird, I had the entire opposite feeling about 6.0 and the 6.1 - 6.5 MSQ. I liked the tighter character episodes around Zero rediscovering aspects of her humanity, like trust and faith, after living eons as a cynical transactional immortal. I liked seeing Varshann/Vtra come alive with new hope at being able to see his sister again. The Thirteenth's culture was interesting world building, and Zero's scenes with Julius are pretty great. It gets weaker when you go back to the First and the story just contrives a reason you can take Zero with you so her bit with Ryne can happen. 6.0's plot was a mess and I kept thinking worse of it every time I revisited it. Weird tonal and pace breakups, okay. Elidibus can conveniently send us back in time to investigate Fandaniel/Hermes, okay. Garlemald is resolved in effectively one zone and one dungeon. Okay? Then the Final Days segment begins. >lore rape of Endwalker <6.0 wasn't that bad. Look, the shit goes down in Ktisis Hyperboreaia, and Venat escapes a memory wipe. And instead of her, the former seat of Azem, taking her eyewitness account to the Convocation, she decides to withhold information that would spare *an alternate timeline* from the Final Days from the convocation. She tracked and knew the location of the source of the Sound that caused the Final Days and withheld it. Thus Venat caused a pointless schism when some of her people offer their lives to summon Zodiark to curtail the Final Days. This is crucial because the side stories make it abundantly clear that the timeline that the Crystal Exarch took the Crystal Tower still persists. Endwalker only works if it's a time loop story that character assassinates Venat/Hydaelyn. But no, it's apparently a proper time loop. Because "the future that [we] must return to exists as a result of the Final Days." The first fucking thing Emet-Selch should have said when we summoned him at Ultima Thule was "We could have avoided all this."
This game have rated arena's?
>>1686448 it barely has pvp to begin with my guy
>>1686448 There's a rank pvp mode called crystal conflict, it's a a 5v5.
>>1356454 I have nothing of value to add, I just wanted to say that her tits are nice.
>>1686448 As pointed out by >>1686619 there IS ranked PvP but it's a 5v5 mode where you can only speak in quick chat phrases (unless a custom match), and it's a clone of TF2 payload where you have to push the crystal into the opponent's goal to win (or run the clock out with your team making the most progress), and some maps have hazard gimmicks.
>>1356454 Speak with Wuk Lamat.
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>>1687829 I'd rather not.
My dragooners eye is gone
I checked the news, Mare really is kill. GOOD!
>>1690210 doesn't really make a difference, the official support and people making money off of it through patreon is gone, but people still use it
>>1356454 Does she mainline steroids directly into her neck?
>>1965453 Nah the models in FF14 just kind of look like that facewise. Dawntrail also changed the facial and body rigs a fair bit and that caused modders some headaches in adjusting such I'm sure. Speaking of that and the prior discussion in this thread before you bumped it. Seems Yoshi-P finally started breaking the emergency glasses, they're removing all class locks when it comes to glamouring gear, something he's been hard set on not doing for over a decade, using claims of class identity and maintaining theme. Clearly this is being done as a panic response to the rapid player decline and to try and win back some of the modders and RPers who left when Mare got banned and the related response to such. Also a lot of talk about the next expansion being "the second rebirth of the game", bunch of hot air if you ask me.
>>1965700 >"the second rebirth of the game" was there any online game that said that and actually delivered? > they're removing all class locks when it comes to glamouring gear, something he's been hard set on not doing for over a decade, using claims of class identity and maintaining theme. I mean, this was already broken a while ago when you could use bikinis and modern clothes on all classes, there has been no class identity clothes-wise since shadowbringers at least.
>>1965884 >was there any online game that said that and actually delivered? Yeah XIV. >>1965700 The second ARR wont be next expansion, not unless they have been working on this for years.
>>1966020 >Yeah XIV. no, i mean the second time, various games launch in a broken state and find a way to get back on their feet, never saw it happening twice on the game game tho.
>>1966053 >on the game game on the SAME game*
>>1966053 that's really beside the point Yoshi-P is a manager, he is not a creative, he showed that he works best as a crisis-management producer rather than a director when he set out to make Vagrant Story 2 and ended up with whatever the fuck FFXVI is. Oda was in charge of the story and worldbuilding, he hasn't been there since Shitterbringers, and whoever was keeping some semblance of flavour and fun in XIV up to Stormblood clearly has left, and whatever was left of his work got shoveled out little by little until now there's no trace of it left. Anything that is fun or satisfying has to get steamrolled, homogenized and sacrificed at the altar of """QoL""" , you simply cannot have a game that stays reasonably challenging and fun to play if you're designing it around geriatrics who can play 30 minutes a week and want to be able to experience all of the content anyway- a philosophy that somehow got transplanted directly into the next single player mainline Final Fantasy. Rambling a bit, the point is there's no one at Creative Unit whateverthefuck who has the vision and know-how to put together a fun game. Best they got is spread, stack, look away, maybe cardinals if they're feeling daring. It's very much like the Kojima situation, there were some unnamed heroes on that team who kept Kojima's westaboo retardation in check and delivered games that are actually fun to play and engaging. Remove Kojima from that team, and you get 40h of fellating Hollywood actors with no substance and the level of geopolitical analysis of a 10 year old who just heard John Lennon's Imagine for the first time, wrapped in a tryhard Lynchian package.
>>1966135 >Rambling a bit please anon, don't undersell yourself. You're going full on schizo.
>>1966166 I understand that's what it must look like for 3rd worlders when they see people communicate using words exceeding 4 syllables, but that is just a bit of a ramble, I assure you.
>>1966166 That ain't schizo. You want schizo go take a look at our /b/ board, it's currently getting swiss cheesed by some schizophrenic femcel making a dozen posts on how men suck. The guy's just making a very valid series of points on how Yoshi-P is shit. >>1965884 >I mean, this was already broken a while ago when you could use bikinis and modern clothes on all classes. Preaching to the choir with that one, we all know, YoshiP was just dead-set on not letting up on glamour restrictions despite the plot clearly being lost ages ago. I bet he would've taken the game to the grave with those restrictions intact if he could, but the game's in some pretty dire straits at the moment. As for his empty promises, I think it's just bluster. There's no way the team would have the balls needed to properly course-correct and make the game fun again for fear of scaring off too many "casual" players. An ironic fear for sure as going back to the older slower combat would be a net improvement even for casual players, and having more class depth would make all content more enjoyable. They aren't going to fix the fucked up face meshes either, so I have little reason to come back after they botched lalafell faces.
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>>1966965 Popoto girls are just perfect.
>>1966965 >>1967111 I want to mash those potatoes.
>>1966965 to be honest, I don't even think he's shit, I just think he's being forced into roles that he's just not good at Square has been trying to do the Kojima/Miyazaki/Metzen cult of personality thing with its directors, it's why FFVII:R and R2, despite being directed by Toriyama(XIII) have Nomura's name on the cover. Nomura was directing 3 KH games at the same time while VII:R was in development, and the only thing he's ever said about it was something like "I just want it to be done", in an interview where he didn't show his face. They want to be able to put "Directed by Yoshi-P" on total garbage and have it sell anyway, and that's just not working out. Genuinely, XIV's rebirth was impressive. Not as impressive as people make it out to be, it's a Final Fantasy MMO, people want it to succeed and the market was already pretty dry back then- but was still impressive from a production pov.
>>1356494 [redacted] got me into FFXIV this week and my first look into the general was truly horrific. Pretty much all the posts were erps from literal troons.
>>1967291 you think getting fisted by a lalafell would be akin more to being fingered? like imagine Krille trying to stuff your nutsack inside her puffy pussylips.
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>>1974607 Everything alright buddy?
>>1967111 >>1967291 >I'uve peanut butter sanwich an gill chees its a goblin with down syndrome
>Y'shtola in the next patch preview >No Wuk in sight XIV is healing.
>>1975476 >paid money for dawntrail >even paid for the preorder mount >Ended that week with a illness and didn't pick it up >drama about wuk made it even worse Why was she pushed so much? It makes no sense.
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>>1975652 Not sure but she was definitely annoying, thank God I only play with JP dub.
>>1975652 Spheens the only good thing to come out of Dawntrail and its not even close. And the only reason why shes good is because of the very tasteful, very cool booty shorts and stocking combo which is way too powerful. I looked forward to the Wuk before release but ultimately I was not prepared for the Wuk. Anyone who didn't preorder wuck'd out.
>>1975672 Yeah I thought I could just ignore it because i lay the jp dub But holy fuck does she not shut the fuck up. >>1975730 I don't feel it, guess I just miss scions and that dumb bimbo lyse
>>1975783 Scions were well written even if not at first and built up over a long time. I don't even remember having any annoyances with Lyse in Stormblood. I tolerate her because I want to fuck her, but she never had grating moments and certainly didn't budge into our fight with Zenos. One of my biggest gripes with Dawntrail is how Alisae and Alphinaud's sibling dynamics which were extremely similar to Wuk and Koana was just completely fucking ignored in favor of more Wuk dialogue because nobody else mattered (it was all about Wuk of course.) Lyse wasnt even close to having the forced presence that Wuk did. It's like Wuk was a bogstandard fanfiction self-insert. Always have to be involved in every conversation and if a conversation isn't involving her it is always about her. Every time I'm reminded of this shitty expansion I think of "what ifs" and come up with a thousand different ways the plot alone could have been better, or even just more tolerable and half of it is effectively nuking Wuk's linecount.
>>1975730 >Spheens the only good thing to come out of Dawntrail You forgot about Shale.


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