>>1750825 Kiryu is dying of cancer.

>>1750825 >Yakuza thread Neat! Just today I was playing the first game, that chase sequence was funky lol. Why didn't you start with the very first game, anon? Yakuza caught my interest and the second I found out it was a PS2 series and not a PS3 series (that was for the Kiwami games), I dived right into the first game. If you happen to like PS2 sovl from the mid 00s, you are going to adore at least PS2 Yakuza (just do yourself a favor and pick an undub patch lol). As to what I personally think of the first game, it has a charm of its own that I cant get enough of. The story, while lowkey silly and very spontaneous at times, is very engaging and you get hooked to learn more about the intricacies of the families. Combat is satisfying and dynamic it makes every fight a treat, so much you get fired up beating everyone up. And the music goes insanely hard in both the combat setpieces and the most tranquil ones too. I love the first one a lot and Im looking forward to see where the story goes. >Also Kiryu is his own flavor of protagonist that warms me to no end. No "tough looking guy but actually a softie" nonsense, he has healthy balance of a badass thug with a heart of gold and I love it, specially when paired with Haruka, those two have a dynamic I always love to see. (Funny SEGA seemed to have recycled that character dynamic for Bayonetta lol)

>>1750825 Definitely play the first 2 games. However Yakuza 3 isnt a bad game, just tedious. People give it too much shit. Personally I really enjoyed the story, just feel free to ignore most of the substories to avoid the sub-par combat.

How come the zombie Yakuza game never got brought over?

>>1751210 >I found out it was a PS2 series and not a PS3 series Technically there is a port of the first two games on the PS3 with slightly better graphics, but it's Japanese only. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hFiXM5y_Fk0 >>1750825 >Who is telling the truth? There was an anon who made a Lord of the Rings meme to convince his normalfag friends to play the original two games, instead of Kiwami, and well... it convinced me as well. Now I only played a bit of the first game, on an emulator like 8 years ago, but for some reason dropped it, probably because I was incredibly autistic and got angry that I missed a few keys, or I just got distracted with all the side activities. I do plan on going through the games in order, most likely with the PS3 ports as my Japapense is at a level where I can play JRPGs.

>>1750825 >Some say to skip the first five games altogether Don't, it's usually people who had gripes with the story or the combat. I do suggest not marathoning the series. >while others say everything after Yakuza 5 is fake nu-Yakuza <They didn't include 5 because the normalfag consensus that it was the best of the series Fuck normalfags, 5 started it with Haruka's unnecessary idol storyline and somehow ending up with Kiryu having cancer just so the two could finally reunite by 8. That's not to say they're wrong seeing how future games ramp up the silliness that it can be grating to some. >>1751468 If you mean on PC, I assume Sega is waiting for another wave of demand like Isshin's.

>>1751468 Better question, why hasn't Hokuto no Ken: Lost Paradise got a PC port. At least that game is good.

>>1750825 mark is gajah madah screenshot this 1

>>1752065 Ah, so the game's not that good?

>>1752159 Haven't played Dead Souls, all I know is that SEGA refused to translate the games after that game.

>>1750825 >Some say to skip the first five games altogether, while others say everything after Yakuza 5 is fake nu-Yakuza, especially the remakes or 1 and 2. Who is telling the truth? Basically most people just never play the PS2 versions of Yakuza 1 and 2, Yakuza 1 can feel a bit dated, but anyone who's played a reasonable amount of PS2 should be able to adjust to it. Yakuza 2 entierly refines everything about Yakuza 1, and it totally holds up. The remastered version of Yakuza 3 had it's framerate upped to 60fps without actually taking into account what that would do to the gameplay, so when playing on Hard the enemies in Yakuza 3 block very agressively, and unless you know how to take advatage of their now more jank ai, this turns the game into "Blockuza 3" and gives people a negetive view of the gameplay. The PS3 version doesn't have the issues the Remasted version has. When it comes to "Nu- vs Real Yakuza" games in essence Yakuza as a series steadily gets more goofy as it progresses. Now even in Yakuza 1 the series had a sense of humor, but by the time you get to Yakuza 7-Like a Dragon The absurdness that used to be more to the side of the games focus, becomes more and more the focus, and you get Secret Agent Kiryu and Pirate Majima, as Canon games. Heck the Zombie spin-off Dead souls is arguably more grounded than recent entire. Every Yakuza game is still good, there isn't a single bad entry, but this series has a formula to success now, where while it still has it's crime drama story, it also makes sure to have it's absurd parts front and center because that's the aspects that have the series go viral on the internet and have people find out the games exist. You go back to PS2 Yakuza 1 and 2, and there is a grittiness and impact to the gameplay and art design, that's no longer in later games, the vibe of those first 2 games just isn't the same in the Kiwami remakes, this doesn't make the remakes bad games, but they aren't replacements for the originals. >>1751468 >>1752159 I've heard people criticize Dead Souls, but aside from it having performance issues when the gameplay gets hectic with a bunch of enemies or explosions going on, i'd only understand people not liking it if they never played a Yakuza game before. I didn't see much wrong with it, it released after Yakuza 4, and going from that to Dead Souls the quality doesn't feel like it changed much. The main reason Dead Souls was a flop is that it was a zombie game during the 7th gen, right when Zombie games were at their most oversaturated. It'll likely sell better now if it ever gets a new release, then it did when it came out.

>>1751210 >Why didn't you start with the very first game, anon? I just got the remastered collection because I saw on sale for a low price. I didn't know it only had 3, 4, and 5 until after I already bought it. >>1751314 >>1752017 >>1752467 So I take it the Kiwami games wouldn't be a good place to start? I do want to try the originals, but they're getting a little expensive (where I live anyway) and I don't even want to mess with PS2 emulation.

>>1753103 >I don't even want to mess with PS2 emulation Why not? It's very good these days, you likely won't even encounter a single bug caused by the emulator

>>1757667 >Why not? Because he's retarded.

>>1757696 He may just like original hardware, and if so more power to him tbh. I'm way too lazy to do all that myself.

>>1757667 As an emufag, this is a common thing we see. People use an emulator and have a bad experience, don't touch it for 10+ years, but still carry around that bad impression. It's not as common to see this for PS2, but you see it a ton for Xbox 360 and PS3 emulation. People don't even know PS4 emulation is coming along really well. Bloodborne is fully playable and had a modding scene

>>1757946 >It's not as common to see this for PS2 I figured that all of PS would be stuck in the annoying territory with people from having to find the extra component to get it to play but it never being the same so you gotta go find another.

I'll never forgive the series for what Yakuza 6 did to Haruka.

>>1757667 I don't think I'll ever be able to leave the mindset of >PS2 is still too recent >Perfect emulation is still years away >My toaster would never be able to handle it anyways Despite seeing and hearing so many others with PS2 emulators, programs like Retroachievements working with PS2, even mods and decomps for PS2 games, and having a newer laptop laying around, I don't really trust anything newer than 5th gen 7th gen for nintendo, goddamn ninten-dogmatics for emulation purposes.

>>1759161 Anon, we have perfect Saturn emulation now. You can play PS4 games now PS2 was 25 fucking years ago, let go of the past, but keep it fondly in your mind.

It's really impressive how hard 8 and Majimeme managed to kill any interest I had for the games. I loved Gaiden tho

>>1759195 I find that quote so odd because even when he said that, that wasn't true. You'd expect that quote to be 2003 or 4, that period in the mid 2000s where virtually all FPS was console focused or exclusive, but this was late 2010. Left 4 Dead, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Team Fortress 2, they were all already out and several years old at this point.

>>1760422 With the exception of STALKER, all those other FPS were on consoles as well, so while you are right, I think those examples are bad.

>>1760458 I more mean those were very much PC-first games, I don't think TF2 was even being updated anymore on consoles at that point.

>>1760489 Both Left 4 Dead and it's sequel got released on PC and 360 on the same day, and I do know it had an active 360 community back in the day. TF2 also had same day release for PC and 360, but you might be right that the port got ignored. On the other hand, you are forgetting CoD and Battlefield, which yes, did have PC release, however the community was infested with 360 kiddies. There is a reason why Microsoft dropped everything, including their somewhat successful incursion in the Japanese market with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, to focus on CoD.

>>1760422 >You'd expect that quote to be 2003 or 4, that period in the mid 2000s where virtually all FPS was console focused or exclusive Not true at all, there were a ton of highly marketed PC FPS exclusives during that time. During 2010 most FPS were multiplats and the majority of fags were on cucksoles. The PC market got so fucked by Microsoft that plenty of previous games that used to come out on PC simply did not because AAAshits thought the profit margins were too low to bother porting to it. https://archive.is/lGc4z

>>1760489 The Orange Box stopped being bothered with before the 360/PS3 generation ended.

>>1759195 >>1760574 PC gaming was declared dead dozens of times to be fair. PCGamer did a funny article on that years ago https://archive.ph/sx1LB

>>1760837 Who do you think paid a pretty penny to write those journoshill articles?

>>1759161 >>1758480 You guys talking about PS2 emulation being on a weird spot... my Intel Integrated HD Graphics, 8GB RAM, potato ass PC can run Bully, God Hand, DQV and Yakuza flawlessly, so I dont know what to tell you. (It cant, however, run Metroid Prime 2 properly and has a seizure with TTYD, so there is that lmao).

>>1760906 The graphics chip does not matter that much unless you want to play with fancy stuff like crt scanline filters, filtering or supersampling, in fact current day integrated graphics can run most games for only 300 bucks

>>1750825 I don't understand peole asking where to start in a series when a series isn't even that old or as expansive as other games. It's one thing when you have Metal Gear, Mario or Zelda which now are all over 40 years old and multiple different platforms, some of which (MSX) are nowhere near possible to get again. Albeit that Metal Gear for the MSX is available on MG collections. In current year, if you really care for a series and are so far behind, whether you're 20 or 40 years of age, you can literally "skip around." The method I've noticed that helps is simply watch a few of the earlier games on (J)outube, aka longplays and preferably longplays over let's plays. Yakuza has only been around since the PS2 era, which you can easily emulate or as mentioned before, just watch it on (J)outube and continue on until you're caught up. >Oh Dragon Quest 7 remake is coming out? Better catch up! Come on anon, it's not that hard. Hell, you could even search for an abridged story version of Yakuza the same way some dude did for the Dead Space series. I hope you're not into Japanese radio dramas, because then, hoh ho hoh ho. wew lad anyway, have fun playing it, seems like fun, i only partially played the first one way back.

>>1760978 But it's not just about the story, it's about feeling the gameplay evolve. I remember when Skyward Sword was announced I was very impressed, and decided to try to catch up on the whole Zelda series, despite only beating the first three by that point. It took me so long that by the time I finally got to Skyward Sword, Tears of the Kingdom was about to come out. And now I'm fully caught up, and I think I did have more fun because I experienced the full evolution of the series. And it's not because of story, because Zelda obviously is not about the story. But seeing the gameplay evolve, seeing everything about the series evolve, was cool.

>>1760978 To be fair, skipping around entries is very situational thing that solely depends on the series itself, rather than it's longevity. You mention Mario as an exception, but I disagree; given the way Mario is laid out, you can start by SMB3, SM64, New Soup 2 or Odyssey and it wouldn't make a significant difference. Metal Gear, however, It's heavily dependent on the game you pick, cause you can start by MG1 in virtue of being the real-life first, MGS in virtue of being the series' "checkpoint" and the first of it's series or MGS3 in virtue of being the in-universe first, but starting with any other game would leave you in an awkward spot. Then you have the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games where it also doesn't matter where you start because none of them are related to each other (as far as I know, though)... and then there's Zelda, where no matter where you start, you're always missing out on things because all games are connected to each other in a subtextual way lmao. I'd say skipping series is only relevant based on the amount of information you're missing out on for both the game's gameplay and storytelling. I personally like to take my time to see where it's best to start a series with based on it's gameplay progress over the years and their story while also discarding prequel/origin stories out of the equation. If you got me to choose between starting with Yakuza 1 or Yakuza 0, I'd choose Yakuza 1 because I want to know what the series was at it's inception, same reason I started Metal Gear Solid with 1 instead of 3.

>>1761050 Starting Metal Gear with MGS3 is absolutely retarded. It's a prequel, which is a type of sequel, and meant to be played after the things it's a sequel to. Release order is always correct, except for in the case of Star Wars because the creator specifically begs viewers to watch it in chronological order.

>>1761056 I mean sure, it kind of is, considering I wouldn't do that myself... but I personally think it's a realistic option given it's a "first" in it's own way, so I see a lot of people going for MGS3 first because of that, same way people would go for Yakuza 0 instead of Yakuza 1.

>>1760906 >has a seizure with TTYD Try opengl graphics, it worked for me after experiencing the same thing

>>1761050 I understand what you're saying but I think I am by now a little tired of hearing people ask this (in general). It started when MGS Phantom Pain was close to releasing and people asking ad naseum where to start. The consensus was to start by release order with the MSX games being exceptions because for all those games were, you get the exact same thing in MGS (1998) which in some (my) view is one of the best remakes ever made. regardless, your points are valid because it does depends on games that are story focused (MG) or more gameplay focused (Mario). And as for Zelda, isn't there all kinds of time travel in that now?

>>1761104 The story of the Zelda franchise overall is very complicated, with generational battles and time travel and split timelines, but the story of each individual game is generally pretty light. They all reference each other, but you can understand and enjoy practically any of them on their own. Even a few that are more direct sequels, like how Tears of the Kingdom is a direct sequel to Breath of the Wild, are still more standalone than a lot of games from other series. But of course if you do that you're missing how the gameplay changes. Tears of the Kingdom's gameplay is Breath of the Wild with more stuff tacked onto it, some for better and some for worse. It would feel weird going backwards through the entries.

posting for mood idk how to embed this here, sorry https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/im0RmkCWgk8

>>1761109 I had only played A Link to the Past when I tried Breath of the Wild last year (yup never played n64 thru wii versions of zelda). And while I liked the new take on gameplay, I like hunting and crafting, but man did I feel so underpowered while first playing that I gave up on it not even 5 hours in. maybe i'll get it again after playing dq3 remake to try. it was my understanding BoW and TotK filtered A LOT of people?

>>1759195 Do you have a recommendation for a PS4 emulator? Theres a few options but I trust the opinions here more than some jeet/AI article written about them

>>1761115 Hello newfriend, we usually avoid posting youtube links here, instead we use an invidous instance it's something from a very long ago, basically it was in order to do view denial, as in not even give a view to the jewtuber https://yewtu.be/watch?v=im0RmkCWgk8 Next step, would be to download a video and post it as an mp4/webm, but it's not something that can always be done. Would post it as a webm, but right now I am no Tor, and it's a bit more difficult

Sage for double posting >>1761187 (Me) And .se is back.

>>1761129 I just did not try to fight much in that game until much later. I never found combat to be the point of Zelda. Breath of the Wild is about exploration. You can simply avoid a lot of combat, at least until much later in the game. But yeah Breath of the Wild is one of the most standalone entries in the franchise. It references all of them, but it takes place over ten thousand years in the future, after whatever game would otherwise be latest (I guess Hyrule Warriors, or Zelda II if you don't count that). The point is just that it's so long after that all the previous games are forgotten, or only remembered as very vague legends with a few artifacts (pieces of clothing), or ancient landmarks to be found. Link to the Past is also very standalone. The back of the box says it's a prequel to the first two games, but the game itself doesn't make explicit reference to that. Aside from a few landmarks and enemy types recurring, it's practically a reboot. Ocarina of Time, on the other hand, is much more explicitly a prequel to Link to the Past, and references Zelda I and II rather significantly, but it's not like the story relies on you knowing the old stuff in order to get enjoyment out of it. I wouldn't say the same for Metal Gear Solid 3. I think a very big part of that is the satisfaction of seeing that world in the past, seeing how it got to where we saw it in earlier games.

>>1761140 The only ps4 emulator worth using is shadps4, alternatively you can always buy a used ps4 pro with 12.02 or older software to jailbreak it

>>1761644 Shadps4 is also the only real PS4 emulator. There are/were others but they're either closed or abandoned. The first PS4 emu to get real attention was Spine but that was abandoned in 2022 and was closed source. We have an actual emulation thread rather than discussing this in the Yakuza thread

>>1761648 Yakuza 1 and 2 along with the PS3 spinoffs can only be played on PC through emulation, so it's somewhat fitting.

>>1757667 >>1757946 Does it run the ace combat games properly yet?

>>1763850 It ran them fine like ten years ago on a laptop, I am sure it's even better now.

>>1763850 Yes, cont. here >>1763956

>>1761140 The only real option is Shadps4. There are technically others, but that by far is the most developed and supported. One of the recent milestones is getting Ratchet 2016 to run. As somebody following the PS4 emu scene for 9 years, it is incredible how fast SPS4 moved. It went from "kinda boots menus" to "genuine emulator" in the span of like a few months. It helps the devs had a decade of abandoned and scrapped projects to learn from.